Dragon Ball: Chaos Crossover Z: Season Two: Doomed Frieza Saga: Part Four
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- The explosive finale to the Doomed Freeza Saga! Finally revealing how Super our heroes can be.
Shoutout to Rehab4anime once again for the AMAZING final battle animation of Mother Wisp Freeza v Super Sonic & SSJ Goku!
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It was truly an honor to animate the sprite fight here. Whats coming next is gonna be great!
You Rock
can you message me in private. I may have a project for you
@@AlternateHistory sure! You have discord?
Thank you so much for your efforts
@@Rehab4Gaming4 Obermarschall#3318
Man.
The fanservice and setting up for future arcs is just incredible in this series.
Props to Damon,the artists and whoever else might be working on this for creating this masterpiece!
💯💯💯‼️
Truly is a strong one.
Yeah totally agree bro
Freiza is going to give Sonic and Goku hell when you eventually do the Resurrection F arc
True
Blue goku and ether hyper sonic or chaos sonic will be cool
Yeah Frieza would certainly train longer, harder, or have more at his disposal.
@@zelz3011 black frieza might be in this what if and I’m hype
@@FwAnimated12 Same.
I just had a realization for long in the future. In Sonic Adventure's opening, Eggman refers to Chaos as "the god of destruction". While Chaos himself isn't in this scenario, Chaos Piccolo is, and I can't help but wonder if he's going to get the attention of a certain cat later on...
Big the Cat - God of Destruction's Candidate training under Beerus.
Imagine it.
I can't wait to see cream the rabbit in the story, I wonder how she's going to fit into all this and they wonder EC specially, is she going to become a fighter like all the other chaos II visors, or she going to be, like her Canon self, a passive?
@@misslasvegasfoodie9211 maybe she'll appear in the buu arc as third partner to trunks and goten that's my guess at least
Hey guys I got an idea have cream the rabbit go through a character arc where she learns that sometimes violence is the answer
@@nishaagbabiaka9406 Is that not just what playing as Cream in Sonic Advance 2 and 3 is?
Damon, I actually have an interesting idea. Instead of Cell being the singular big bad of the next arc, let's have it be a merging of the Cell Games, Sonic Battle and Sonic Heroes. A Tri-Tech Tournament, if you would.. 3 on 3 fights, with Cell, Emerl, and Neo Metal Sonic being the only team to fight.
So instead of a fighting tournament it's going to be a battle royale wrestling match. If so then that going to be the fight of the century!
@@StarKiller-jq2bu it can’t be a battle royal it would have to be 1 on 1 until neo metal sonic.
Or maybe cell will absorb neo metal and become neo cell
Krillin owned count: 15
Vegeta's Pride count: 12
Tails owned count: 16
Shadow's ego count: 10
well damn, Vegeta really almost got them killed that time, can't wait for the next part, and if Goku and Sonic are on Yardrat, then please let them more techniques, they're going to need them.
goku :learns instant transmision sonic: learns forced spirit fission that would be awesome
Let's hope Sonic decides to take some of his friends to Yardrat to train their
I’d say both of them would learn instant transmission, and Maybe they’d both Master Spirit Control, because Damon made a what if where Goku mastered Spirit control, and with Sonic there, I’d say it would be easier for both of them to Master Spirit Control.
FINALLLY, ALL THE ANTICIPATION OF THE VIDEO RELEASED LIKE A FLOOD GATE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH DAMON FOR THIS POST
I really love both Sonic the Hedgehog and Dragon Ball, seeing this world collide was one of the best things I could ever ask for, these three weeks have been so suspenseful because of were you left, I haven't watched the video yet but once again, thank you so much for putting in so much time and effort to make this an actual series.
ALL HAIL DRAGON BALL CHAOS CROSSOVER
ALL HAIL DRAGON BALL CHAOS CROSSOVER
ALL HAIL CHAOS CROSSOVER!
ALL HAIL CHAOS CROSSOVER!
Man, this arc was a hell of a blast! The amount of care put into this definitely makes it into one of the best what-ifs I've ever seen! I hope whatinfinity can take over for now cause the android saga might take a while
Keep at it!
If the series ever transitions to Dragon Ball Super in the future for maybe a season 3, I could imagine Sonic learning all of his skills from Sonic Frontiers during that season :)
I mean yeah but what more does sonic need?
He’s faster than Goku
One of the strongest people on the team
Knows how to fly and the Kamehameha
Has access to super sonic at will
Has chaos control and other chaos attacks so no need for sonic booms
His cyclops ability might work but it needs set up and will probably only stun somebody if their equal to sonic
I don’t see how frontiers power will change anything
By the time of super super Saiyan god isn’t a new form it’s just god ki at work instead of normal ki so it stands to reason Sonic will be able to get it, then fuse it with his super sonic or hyper sonic form, at that point minor powers like running around a person just won’t matter
@@atheist2025the thing Is,the cyloop is Broken,and the cybercorruption energy would be interesting yo tackle here,considering that most likely Goku Will get It also,and vegeta and shadow too if they enter those events
I'm a little late, but holy crap there were definitely some surprises in this one. Super Saiyan Goku & Super Sonic was exciting to see, along with Super Shadow. But seeing Orange Kami blew my mind. Frieza using the Mother of Wisps was also neat, and Super Kaioken too. That ending has got me hyped with Gero & Robotnik working together, AND them having data from Namek as well.
agreed
and as always cell saga is almost the hardest saga to fight
@@herosama19 Yep. It's mainly because cell has everyone's DNA, and knows Super Saiyan. 17 18 and 16 were made stronger just in case. Now, Gero knows Super Saiyan, and, can use Emeralds. Yeah, our heroes are in for a rough one.
@@Daltonisntabot Don’t forget. Eggman and Gero have data on the Black Arms, Ginyu Force, and the Wisps as well.
This new Cell is gonna be so busted.
@@8bitutopia182 Looks like Cells going to Solo everyone. Let's hope that Sonic decides to bring some of his friends to Yardrat to train their cause their gonna need it.
Frieza: "I don't know who you think you are, you stubborn little blue pincushion! But... YOU'RE DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!""
Super Sonic: "And all your cunning tricks are making me sick! You won't have it your way any more!"
Frieza: You're nothing but an overgrown blue furry and You're nothing but an overgrown monkey!
Goku: And you're nothing but an overgrown that thing Chi Chi and Amy keeps in her drawers!
Sonic: Wait, what?
22:04
After Planet Namek Blows up
KING KAI: It's... [Sad, mournful music] It's... it's over.
YAMCHA: What?
KNUCLKES: Yeah what are you talking about?
KING KAI: Goku and Sonic could not escape the explosion. Namek is gone... and so are they.
YAMCHA: No... Goku, *no*...
TAILS: Sonic... no... *tears start forming in his eyes*
YAMCHA: NOOOOOOOOO! (Sobbing as Tails walks over to Yamcha and puts his hand on his shoulder feeling his pain)
[Sad, mournful music suddenly ends] TENSHINHAN: Why do you two care?
YAMCHA AND TAILS: Hah, wha?
KNUCKLES: Tien what the hell?!? This was touching moment!
TENSHINHAN: Why do any of you care? Are you three forgetting the whole reason that they went to Namek in the first place? Now we have two sets of Dragon Balls!
YAMCHA: Well, yeah, but you make it sound like death has no consequence!
TENSHINHAN: It really doesn't - we're literally waiting to go back. Hell, this is even Krillin's second time!
TAILS: Well now that you mention it I did see a Sundae stand that says "Free Sundae for dying three times" so... Yeah now I get what your saying Tien.
YAMCHA: Huh...
KING KAI: Hah...
KNUCKLES: Huh...
TENSHINHAN: Yeah.
KING KAI: ...So, who wants to tell Bulma?
Oh man Yardrat training combined with their knowledge on Chaos, will make Sonic and Goku INSANE
Is it Yardrat tho?
That's what I wonder.
I'm genuinely terrified for what kind of monster Cell can be in this timeline.
He might look different as well.
yo...
Be aware that this might lead to a more powerful Majin Buu as well.
Since chaos emerald super forms can be trained and improved, I guess:
SSJ1 (Debut Super Sonic)
SSJ2 (Trained Super Sonic, Potentially Darkspine)
SSJ3 (Extra Trained Super Sonic or Maxed Out Super Kaioken)
SSG ("Ultra Sonic" Single Super Emerald. Would fit considering its called Dragon Ball SUPER)
SSGSS (Trained Ultra Sonic)
MUI (Debut Hyper Sonic, 7 Super Emeralds)
TUI (Trained Hyper Sonic)
Nice tho if werehog and excalibur gonna be added I think they should added in gt as debut werehog (around gt goku ssj form for the beginning of gt) super sonic during gt for ssj3 gt goku lvl and excalibur being ssj4 level
Note that Ultra Sonic ISN'T actually stronger that Super Sonic. That was a misconception brought upon thanks to the folks over at death battle.
In Archie, a super emerald isn't as strong as the full set of 7
In the beginning the chaos emeralds were able to give a multiplier of 450 times which is about equal to Super Saiyan 3 so yeah makes sense that Sonic is going to be able to pull more power from the emerald through training
@@ItsCenrryTH Yeah. True. This might not go the Archie route, Ultra Sonic in the case was just a placeholder for a single super emerald form. Otherwise Super would require alot of training to increase its boost enough to keep up with the saiyan transformations without entering Hyper which alone is said to be MUI level
@@ItsCenrryTH actually no
one set super emerald actually equal to 7 set not weaker in archie so ya can say ultra sonic and super are the same power? But ultra has more abilities than super idk
And so as this saga comes to a close our heroes are left with many questions. How did Sonic and Goku survive Namek's explosion. Is the threat of the Freiza Force finally over? and What is Eggman Planning Now? Tune in next year for the Continuation of Dragon Ball: Chaos Crossover Z
You won’t have to wait a year don’t worry lol
@@DamonWhatif So It returns in 5 months then?
Until the next part is released, I’ll just assume they survived because Muffin Button
Now I can say all the “new” words. THIS IS RAW, PEAK FICTION, FIRE, AND ITS A GOATED WHAT IF/CROSS OVER LIKE HOLY CRAP
barely pass 20 seconds... and the picture of Sonic VS Frieza is already awesome... now i wish and hope one day someone makes this crossover into a comic
Can't wait for the Cell Saga and For Mr. Satan to Challenge Perfect Cell, Metal Overlord Sonic, and Mecha Overlord Goku
Mr. Satan: Now Cell, Metal Goku, and Metal Sonic if that is your guy's real name
Cell: It's actually Perfect Cell-
Mr Satan: It's actually garbage! And Mr. Satan's going to take out the trash.
Metal Overlord Goku: Wait is he serious?
Cell: Wait you're serious? You're actually going to fight?
Metal Overlord Sonic: Yeah we thought you were somebody's hype man.
Mr. Satan: I AM THE HYPE! AND THE COOLEST!
Vegeta: KILL HIM!
Shadow: F^$KING MURDER HIM!
Can't wait to see the dynamic between Goku, Sonic, Shadow and Vegeta in future parts
Same
me too
Frieza using the mother wisps was smart and the way he killed the 3 that was brutal shessh
Never have I been so hyped for a part in a what if series and I gotta say, you delivered! This was insane and I can't wait for more of this series and to see how it goes!
Cell is probably going to be extremely powerful, and far more dangerous if some of Eggman's own tech is in him, maybe instead of just absorbing biological androids like in canon, he'll be able to absorb pretty much anything like in some older, more obscure what ifs where Cell was able to absorb all of the Red Ribbon androids
I like that Shadow was able to turn super and help take Black Doom down along with Sonic. I was thinking he was going to miss it.
I also like the idea of Frieza using the mother Wisp form giving him all the other wisp abilities.
I'm also glad Eggman was pretty much using this whole thing as an opportunity to gather the data he needed to take the heroes down himself. I imagine he's manipulating Gero with the lie that Sonic is responsible for the destruction of the Red Ribbon army and not Metal Sonic.
Imagine if Gero found out that it is Eggman who did it, he be pissed, I can tell ya.
Eggman will die again next arc I can tell
I wish Frieza used more whisp abilities, could of been more creative but it was still amazing.
Egg man is *definitely* manipulating Gero, the only question is is Gero is who is betraying who first.
anyone thinks the metarex would fit RIGHT IN to GT(maybe fused or allies to the tuffels)?, since in gt the tuffle planet had robotics and the metarex wants to assimilate all into machines. also great work here damon, also glad that you brought up more of other's animations for this one!
Yeah most likely.
I saw it said it's coming out at 5:30. Expecting it to just come out an hour later. But I didn't realize we were an hour apart. And this is epic.
Will be expressing thoughts post vid
Edit: Wow, I really have to admit that I had a feeling the fight would be kinda that way. But I didn't expect that to have come in on the second half of the episode! I certainly hope this is being saved in a playlist, because this series has certainly been a fun listen, especially for all the different stuff that happened.
Gotta say, you still fail to disappoint. Because this story writing and retelling is amazing and I am eager to see where it goes next.
Really happy you enjoyed it!
@@DamonWhatif I loved this series so far; I've been getting back into sonic for a bit now and this is a masterpiece of both world and for that thank you for a awesome series with love microchipgaming101
@@DamonWhatif I'm a bit scared Damon...you're not gonna ship Shadow and Amy together are you? Please don't...Shadow is 50 years old for crying out loud. Even though Amy is an adult in this series it still feels wrong
@@DamonWhatif Hey um I have to ask,when is the next part of what if you were in dragon ball?
This arc was absolutely ELITE.
Definitely worth the wait, love the Frieza and Sonic art, keep it 1000th Damon.
Sonic and goku promised to revive eclipse with the dragon balls I hope they do in the next part since the others did not know to do that in the previous part.
I didnt expect much of this series when I first started it recently but I found myself rather enjoying it by the end, having characters like Eggman and Black Doom help to shake up the repetitive nature of some of these what ifs on youtube. I hope to see Silver and/or Trunks in the future (future as in their future and a future video)
At the beginning of the video i thought Frieza will not use Wisp Form thinking why he didn't used it in previous part if he could, but i was happily shocked that he used it.
Also i'm interested if Goku can use SSJ and Super Form at the same time.
Maybe it could be called Uber Super Sayian and have the original appearance from the manga (y'know, white hair and red eyes)
@@ItsCenrryTH I think if it had white hair it would look too much like Gohan Beast.
I think this combination should have just like you said red eyes, but instead of white hair a blond hair but looking like it's floawing.
I'm thinking it would be called Super Saiyan Chaos (Insert Saiyan Users name) And it would have Purple eyes and the hair maybe being brighter or darker.
THAT WAS AMAZING
First of all: Goku going SSJ, sonic going super and shadow going super was sick
Second of all: The emotional bit when sonic and goku “die” was emotional
Third of all: there still alive?????
There are many more reasons why I love this part but these are the one I wanted to say and I’d say a break is fair this must’ve took a while but thank you for the doomed frieza saga my favourite one 😊
Wait a minute, Amy developed psychic abilities thanks to unlocking her potential, and Shadow is living with her and they're growing closer to one another. Could they be Silver's parents in this crossover?
OK WHAT THE HECK... YOU DID 1000% FOR THIS VIDEO PLUS THE EXTRA 100000% all these animations from people (the first two from DXAnimations) just adding alittle to this... seriously this DESERVES a Fan Comic Crossover if not an full on RUclips Series
Man, this was a crazy arc and this is among one of my favorite What If's ever so thank you for all your hard work on this series Damon!
Watching at this amazing what if, I can't grasp but imagine, how horrific would be the Android and Cell saga considering that Eggman and Gero working together. The potential of so many cameos and characters here is insane. Along with the androids, Cell, Emerl and, probably, Neo Metal Sonic, it could also imply the inclusion of E-123 Omega, Shadow androids, the development of Gamma who would probably end up facing the similar fate to 16. Maybe eventually there even would be robotic versions of other characters such as Mecha/Metal Knuckles, Tails Doll or even other Z-fighters such as artificial Chaos Piccolo or Metal Krillin. And THEN there's also a possible adaptation of Android 13 movie with even more stuff that could be put there if it couldn't make it into the arc. So many other possible outcomes here, can't wait to see it.
I also wondering whereas there gonna be adaptations of other Sonic related games bc since Sayian saga there only were elements such as Wisps and Black Arms with Shadow's memory loss. It would be sick to see the retelling of Storybook series in this setting or maybe more elements of Sonic's more forgotten games such as the rest of 8-bit ones, arcades or of the first two Sonic Advance series with Cream, Cheese and chao making it in the series.
What I want to say, you're doing amazing job at this what if trying to fit in so many elements from various Sonic and DB media which makes me happy. Wish you luck, can't wait for the rest of what if to come out!
Edit: the dream about artificial Chaos Piccolo came true in some form in the latest Sonic x DB what-if, that's cool)
Edit x2: Emerl is also real now, woohoo
Well Damon did say that he would include elements form The Secret Rings, The Black Night, Sonic Forces, Sonic 06, Sonic Prime, the IDW comics, and much more into the Sonic Heroes/Android/Cell Saga so this isn't too far off.
sonic one shots all of the villians
Oh yes cream and cheese I wonder if there doing gameplay power cream and cheese or story both ways cheese is super strong beating some stupid things but with cream as well is a real challenge for the chaos form if at gameplay wise is in account.
First of all, perfect ending to this part, and seeing the future possiblity of the Androids being built is awesome. It also gives me hope for a supreme Omega being made, though if he turns out anything like modern Omega is another story. He was always one of my favorite introductions in the adventure era after Shadow so I hope he's done justice.
And as a sidenote even if DBS Super Hero was only recently realised, the fact you already had an Orange Kami made is epic. Maybe that means we get a significantly early cameo of Dr Hedo as well from Super Hero considering who his Grandfather is? That and we still don't know if Cell is more Mobian looking in this timeline, or if there is only 1 Cell.
Keeping up with this and your future what ifs will be the ultimate treat. I'll wait for more juicy content.
If they're on Yardrat, it would be so funny to see Sonic try to stay still to master spirit control. But I think that Goku would be able to master it here since the Saiyans do better when they are competing against someone else. Also, all of the Androids are about to get huge buffs from Eggman's technology since Gero basically made them out of scrap metal. Cell could even be the main project, coming out as Perfect Cell with the infinite energy engine powered by chaos energy or all of Androids 1 - 21 could be made with the help of Eggman. Cell could in that case be called Android 0.
I would like to point out that android 8 already exists. Not sure about when the last androids were made. They have to have 9-12 and 1-7 somewhere, destroyed or decommissioned. I'm not sure if Goku fought them, but they're somewhere.
@@Daltonisntabot Yeah, Eighter did turn good. But eith Eggman's help, Gero could show him the design of each android and they could make second version's or replace them with Egg Robos if they were destroyed.
This was amazing !
I can't wait to see the next part with Eggman and Gero working together !
I missed this series! Take your time on this series, maybe some other what if's will blow up like this one.
I have an Idea for Trunks' Future. After Gero and Eggman wipe out all of the threat to their empire (With the exceptions of Trunks, Bulma, Amy, Shadow, Tails, and Gohan with Silver being born later. and maybe Yamcha and Krillin) Greo then Betrays Eggman (I bet Gero didn't tell Eggman about the Infinite engines to get a one up on Eggman). and then this results in the cold war between Dr. Gero and Dr.Eggman with our survivors trying to put an end to this tyranny. And then Metal Sonic and Metal Goku betray Eggman Metal Sonic did in Sonic Heroes with causes them to team up with the other Androids to overthrow Dr. Geo and take over both the Empires.
This is my favorite what if out of all the RUclipsrs. I really hope this can last until the T.O.P
yeah i a least want to make it to the buu saga
Honestly at this point now I'm wondering what's going to happen when god kii is introduced to the story, like is Sonic going to become a Super Hedgehog God or something? Or even better have Sonic combine his super form with god kii to create a "Super Sonic *(Insert color here)* " transformation.
you know I have an idea. When Cell reaches his Perfect Form He just starts toying with Shadow before completely destroying him both figuratively and literally and just steals Shadow's title as the Ultimate Lifeform.
One of the things I like about Black Doom being here is that he was voiced by Sean Schemmel.
It really amazing series, it confirms that goku and sonic literally have a brother and brother bond same as metal sonic and metal goku
The next arc, I want to see metal homu training and more so he can be stronger so he can beat then and protect his brother metal sonic
When you described sonic standing still blocking the attacks I just imagined the scene from the og Broly movie lol
I LOVE THIS SERIES, IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT, and I cried multiple times in this series so far.
Brooo the part was awesome! I freaking loved it! The flash animations. And the moment of Goku and Sonic in the exploding Namek. And Amy and Shadow? Hmm? Annnd Gero cooperating with Eggman? I am SO eager for the next arc. I wonder if Silver'll show up...
Either way! Hyped for the next part. Thanks Damon!
that would be cool to see silver maybe like him and trunks come from the future together!!!
Oh by the way in the TFS version of this Ghost Eclipse ended up hanging out with Ghost Nappa and the two became friends. After Sonic and Goku revived Eclipse he waited one year to revive Nappa and the two when off to Hollywood to film movies together.
The end of the Doomed Frieza Saga is finally done and what a ride this arc become and I'm glad it was worth the wait, and amazing animation from the animators credits to them. And now the next Saga will be more interesting than ever; but will have to wait and see cause for other what-if videos or other videos will be back on spotlight. And like you said it'll need a lot time and add more ideas to make more entertaining for the next part/saga, but with us (the viewers/members of Discord/Patreon) I'm sure that'll be ready on hand.
No suggestion for the next part (not yet at least 😉)
But I do hope you and everyone have a wonderful weekend Damon my friend 👼✌
This is just a nice comment.
Thanks a bunch Alex, really glad you enjoyed! Have a good weekend too!
Trunks later: who tf is dis hedgehog?
trunks' timeline is different here
I wonder if we’re gonna get a super saiyan chaos form later on in this series (if not then it was kind of a missed opportunity).
That would probably be way too fanficy, so I wouldn't say its a missed opportunity.
THE PURPLE EYES!!!
I'm just waiting.
Power scaling would go through the roof I'd that happened...so no I don't wanna see that. At least not yet
@@Velocity_YT Bro what would it be?
50X 50X?
Would it be 2 50X Multipliers except it can get stronger depending on the emotional ability.
So like a 2500X Multiplier.
Only 5X Golden Great Ape assuming that's how it would even work it might work better or worse knowing how stacking transformations work.
Also Super KAioken.
50X2=100X
50X10=500X
50X20=1000X
Maybe it could be just like a mastered Super Kaioken without as much strain but on a more limited timer.
SS2 Kaioken.
100X2=200
100X10=1000
100X20=2000
SS3 Kaioken.
400X2 =800
400X10=4000
400X20=8000
Honestly maybe it would be fine depending on the user and probably would be irrelevant by the time of Gods if that happens.
Vegito using the form though would be heat.
If it doesn't appear it's just Heroes I guess...
@@Velocity_YT Power scaling can already go through the roof 17 with Barrier + Cube seems downright invincible since that might be a shield 4X More powerful tham himself meaning if you are even equal to them you have to attack with 4X the power to break through or do damage I think to the barrier or them.
Animations were on point and on fire. The fight scenes were as awesome as always. My heart was touched when Sonic and Goku just held each other thinking they were going to do regardless. Also, the Shadow x Amy pairing. I see you. I don’t particularly mind ships like that but I support whatever direction you choose to take with that. Why am I both surprised and not surprised two mad scientists are working with each other? Letting Eggman is gonna bite our heroes in the end later on. Overall, marvelous work, marvelous art, and marvelous you. Get all the rest you need. Do you what gotta do. I am anticipating and am excited as to what new and grand changes you make to both continuities in this great crossover of yours. Thank you for all the effort you put into this. We appreciate you!!!
See here's the thing.
Once again I'm just like you I don't mind ships/pairings and where that goes.
But like.
Overall when you think of the Buu Saga.
The Cell Saga actually saved them.
Because they were able to get powerful enough from training early for 3 years they still were not strong enough and breaking their limits again against Cell and learning of new power and even then Buu was still above them all in power if revived the whole point was to prevent that and the only ones who were stronger than Buu had a time limit.
Knowing things like the Time Eater exist and all the Sonic Lore and how Porunga was changed Buu could actually be way stronger and Babidi could be as well things could be way harder so if that happens that means if they somehow get past what is coming next and grow from it then the saga once again would have saved them even though it would come at a massive cost.
And on the surface it would look like a mistake.
But looking past that and trying to extend a hand to a greater future is probably better.
As if they can get the Egg even as a Middle rather than an enemy likely would help them facing future enemies.
Same here
While I was waiting for the next part of this series I decided to use AI Dungeon to predict the Android/Cell/Sonic Heroes Saga and... let's just say it got crazy as the Ai was sometimes unpredictable.
What did you get?
And the next episode will be finally be able to see silver in trunks come to the future to kick freezes, but like chunks did in Canaan
*THE VIDEOS OUT ITS TIME TO LIVE N LEARN!*
Damn imagine Super Sonic with Instant transmission 💀
I've binge watched this entire Playlist in two days, i cant wait to see where you take this storyline next.
Yo Sonic getting Yardrat training sick
Will there be plans to add Sonic’s other forms like Hyper Sonic eventually?
The author has stated that hyper is MUI level.
@@raymoshav-bloodbought and that ultra sonic is omen level as well
@@hackerninjaexe5791 that I am unsure of, I believe so, but he hasn’t stated anything particular on the power of just yet.
@SDFAIT Gaming it is stated in a stream(Sonic origins), that hyper is on the level of MUI.
@@hackerninjaexe5791 Ultra Sonic is as strong as Super Sonic the only difference is that Ultra has more and better abilities.
This part was amazing! This was worth the wait, and I loved everything in it! I loved how Shadow got to go Super again and helped take down Black Doom, and dam, that reveal of Mother Wisp Frieza! That was almost a massacre, and I love Mother Wisp Frieza's Design! It was so cool and epic! Rehab did amazing on that animation! The battle was epic, and I love how Frieza looked in it! Seriously! That design is awesome and is honestly my favorite Frieza/wisp design! I also love how it took both Super Saiyan Goku and Super Sonic to take him down! Though knowing how Frieza survived both being cut in half, being blasted into the ground by Goku, and Namek Exploding in canon, it's safe to say he likely survived that, rather or not he's still in one piece when Cold Finds him. Speaking of, would be cool if Cold had some time to shine as a Villain rather than getting instantly overpowered and defeated by Future Trunks(And possibly Future Silver I'm guessing.). While that intro was cool for Trunks, I don't think it was Great that cold was just used as a tool to display how cool Trunks was at the time when he had so much potential as a villain, but regardless, I'm looking forward to the Android Saga!
And Of course Vegeta almost gets everyone killed with his desire for immortality, but it does make sense for him at this time. Also did not expect Kami to get that orange Transformation!(or whatever would be a good term for it, I hate how it's just called "Orange Piccolo". I guess Chaos Kami Makes sense?) Honestly with what's coming That might be one of their saving Graces for the Android Saga, as that's going to add to Piccolo's power when he fuses with Kami. Also, I was wondering where Eggman and the Metals were, and man, I honestly didn't expect Eggman to be working with Gero! Let alone recording all that Data for the both of them! The Android Saga is going to be a nightmare! and I can only imagine what the Future Timeline must be like. Honestly, the Z-Fighters are going to need all the help they can get, hopefully Goku and Sonic can learn a lot more from the Yardratians than Goku did in canon, because they're going to need it!
I hope the Humans and some of the other Mobian Characters can learn Kaioken, maybe even learn how to use Chaos Energy to some extent, as they're likely going to need it and I'd love for the Humans to be more Relevant in general. Goku and Sonic, or at least Sonic, could take them to Yardrat to learn some Yardratian Techniques as well, those would be useful, powerful, and off both Eggman's and Gero's Radar should they keep them from discovering of them. It would be especially good if they could build off those techniques, Kaioken, and Chaos Energy as well! Perhaps even finding some ways to mix some of them! And Perhaps Bulma, perhaps having taken a look at some of Eggman's notes and schematics when he wasn't looking(but of course not figuring out about his plans) could help upgrade the Z-Fighters and maybe make some Robotic Fighters of her own! Though that latter bit may not help with not adding too many characters, but who knows.
I also love how You had Bulma basically force Vegeta to live with her and how you've established Amy's and Shadow's relationship so far! I think I can guess what that might lead to, but I'll keep quiet on that just in case, and I don't think too many others have put the pieces together. Anyways, I like how you've established the formation of team Dark(which I don't know too much about since I'm relatively new to Sonic, but I know who's in it), it makes sense and is that cool, I just wonder how Omega will come to join the group, if he does at all. I hope both the Nocturnus Clan and Eclipse were revived, I would like to see more of them in general. Also I suppose you're intentionally leaving out the part about everyone brought back by Black Doom and the Black Arms? Vegeta was killed by Black Doom Right? So it would make sense that's why he was brought back, Unless I missed or Forgot that Frieza had the finishing Blow? Either way, Doom and the Black Arms are the ones who killed the Nocturnus Clan and So many other races. Imagine that allows for a certain group to be brought back as well, and to me they currently make the most sense for why both Goku and Sonic Survived, though I'm not entirely sure why they would save them if that's the case. It could be that a yardratian somehow sensed them and Instant Transmissioned them to Yardrat, but that seems unlikely to me. Two other factors, or maybe you could consider it one factor, also makes me think it's this certain group, but I won't spoil in case if I'm right and if other people are reading this.
Back on the topic of the android Saga, I hope Silver is from the same time period Future Trunks is from, as I really disagree with others saying he should still be from a few hundred years in the future, as that's too far into the future for Dragon Ball in my opinion and complicates things too much, and it's much more fitting to have Silver come in with Trunks. I also have a pretty solid theory on Silver that I think has been very implied so far, or at least you could put the pieces together, but again I won't risk spoiling anything as I don't think many others have guessed this either. Also Hope that Future Trunks can get some wins, as he deserves a lot more respect than he did from the writing in canon(He didn't really accomplish much in the actual Saga, and aside from getting strong with Vegeta, he mostly just got his ass kicked by the Androids and Cell. Of course Vegeta did too, but at least he already had prior wins in the past), and from Little I've heard about Silver, he could probably use some wins too, but I understand if that's hard to do when we have so many characters(Perhaps including the Movie Androids would be a good idea? Of you're probably working with some rules on what you can or can't include, but I just thought I'd just suggest it just in case that was viable and if you don't already have that planned.). Also if Sonic and Sally do end up together and having have a kid or two, perhaps they could end up being a future Warrior as well, but I could also see them being born only in the present timeline alongside Goten(I can't even imagine how Crazy the Buu Saga will be). Also, I kinda hope that with all of characters added to his DNA and the crazy powers Cells might be getting that he gets a whole new redesign, it would be fitting, and I think would be amazing for this series! Either, I hope to see 17 and 18(and them potentially having power ups as well as turning good), I'm assuming we will, I'm just kinda worried about them being cut out or killed off because of there already being so many characters
Also sorry if I'm ever annoying or bothersome with these ideas and suggestions. I'm sorry if me apologizing is annoying or bothersome too, I just want to be sure I'm not being either of those things and I can get irrationally anxious at times.
Don’t be sorry bro, love reading all of the ideas and theories people have! Yours are always a very fun read
Don't ever be sorry for being the smartest one in the room
@@DamonWhatif Ditto
I RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAALLLY CANT WAIT TO WATCH/HEAR/LISTEN TO THE NEXT PART, but if i had to guess your currently working on the other stories, so plz take your time with all of your stories, i do hope that android 21 shows up in the android saga but with none of that evil hunger that she had in dragon Ball fighters ( or what ever that games name is) heck i would be surprised if u made so that noth sonic and 21 where interested in each other.
Hmm. They only revived those killed by Frieza's actions? Not Black Doom's? Does this mean the Nocturnes weren't revived, or were they?
This last part was amazing. I hope they have Hyper Sonic in this or the Werehog. And I really want to see the Hyper fight MUI. And also use some moves from Sonic's part like the lightspeed attack or the magic hands. Or even the blue tornado or bounce. But I can tell after this saga it's going to be awesome. I really know it. It's going to be spectacular and with a lot of references from past Sonic games.
@Damon : What If,
I can't wait to see how the Future Z/Sonic Fighters, are going to deal with the Future Androids.
I gotta say that is some impressive foreshadowing there from the way kami transformed twice in his second transformation I swear is that foreshadowing
Goated also since we’re going into the artificial human ark Surge and Kit from IDW sonic run are technically artificial Humana’s it was said in Imoster syndrome issue 3
Can’t wait to see what you do to pair with the Android/Cell Saga
I'm really looking forward to see Trunks Silver And Blaze in the future who time traveled to the past
Hey here’s an idea: in the androids/cell arc, if you decide to incorporate Sonic 06 (due to the time travel) Silver could be the future son of Shadow and Amy, due to the fact that Ian Flynn headcanonned that he was at least their decedent back when he was writing for Archie.
Ps I also love to listen and re-listen this series all the time!!!😄
That's kind of what the end part with Shadow and Amy was leaning towards to.
Idk bout tht I like sonic and Amy a bit more
this was a fantastic episode dude! i see the amy x shadow moment there that could lead to the silver thing. also i was not expecting the whole eggman and gero team up, this will definitely change up the story now especially since now theat they got info about what happened on namek, considering gero didn't know what happened in the original. i also like how emeral is possibly being the cell of this. i do have one question though, what about character that should have shown up by this point? like big, cream, omega and maybe some non-game characthers like cosmo, whisper, tangle and starline? will there be like a filler ark like the garlic jr ark?
So here are the order of events so far in TFS style:
DB
Dragon Ball Z: Bardock - The Father Of Goku
Emperor Pilaf/Sonic 1 Arc
Sonic CD/Tournament Arc
Sonic 2/The Red Ribbon Army Arc
Sonic 3 & Knuckles/The 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc
The demon king Chaos Piccolo/SA1 Arc
The 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai/SA2 Arc
DBZ
Dragon Ball Z: Dead Zone (Cannon in TFS)
The Saiyan Arc
Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest (Cannon in TFS)
Dragon Ball Z: The Tree Of Might (Cannon in TFS, Is also a Christmas Movie)
Dragon Ball Z: Lord Slug (Cannon in TFS)
The Doomed Frieza/Shadow The Hedgehog Saga
Events yet to come in TFS Style:
Dragon Ball Z: Cooler's Revenge Cannon in TFS)
The Android/Cell/Sonic Heroes Saga
Dragon Ball Z: Cooler 2: The Return Of Cooler's Revenge: THE RECKONING (Cannon in TFS)
Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13! *Unless this in the Android/Cell/Sonic Heroes Saga* (Cannon in TFS)
Dragon Ball Z: The History Of Trunks and Silver
Dragon Ball Z: Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan (Cannon in TFS)
Dragon Ball Z: Plan to Eradicate the Sayians/Plan to Eradicate Christmas (Cannon in TFS, Is also a Christmas Movie)
Dragon Ball Z: Bojack Uncancelled (The NOT TeamFourStar Edition) | BYTE
Dragon Ball Z: Broly - Second Coming (Cannon in TFS)
Dragon Ball Z: Bio-Broly (Cannon in TFS)
The Majin Buu Arc
That's all I got so far...
the movies are canon in regular dbcc and by the way the movies aren't canon in tfs
I was just minding my business thinking when will the next part comes then 5 minutes later it came lol
Little late but damn this is getting to good the animation bits where a nice touch props to the animators who help on this and and I’m looking forward to the next arc keep it up man
Finally, a return of the other what ifs!
Jeez man you've set up so much potential something im interested in is arcs like goku black and the tournament of power im interested to see how you bring in blaze will she be apart of universe 6 really excited for the future
That egg man still is chilling holy-
Also cell is gonna slaughter the planet-
This Perfect Cell just solos everyone. I wonder what Cell Max will look like when we get to Super Hero
Awesome Work Damon keep up the good work Super Sonic And SSJ Goku vs Frieza And Black Doom
man I wish I can give this video a chef's kiss because this left me astonished happy and satisfied and I'm definitely ready for what's next cuz it's about to get real good I just can't wait until time travel gets into the mix cuz that's going to be crazy 🤣😭😭😧
Now that is a awesome part so far! Can't wait for the next arc! :3
Gero and Eggman?! Good lord that's a dangerous duo!!! 😬
a whole sprite movie with what if sonic was in dragon ball, dragon ball z, soon to be gt and super will be the most awesomeness thing to ever witness as a sonic and dragon ball fan. make pateron or something on it i’ll definitely donate if it requires money
When you early as hell and don’t have anything funny to say:
I mean isn't this funny enough?
10:16 I know this is meant to be very serious, and all but angry parent mode😅
0:24 this art by chronocrump is absolutely peak
I hope they more art for like the cell saga or a movie
Nice cant wait for cell and neo metal sonic arc next tho another important question will blaze be in the universe 6 since her dimension is basically meant parallel sonics it would make sense if blaze and marine is in universe 6
I don't know because things like that might be more neutral space rather than belonging to other universes as overall it still feels like they are in the verse of Sonic in a way or maybe the overall like how Supreme Kai of time exists but there is mainly only 1 of her unlike if you went to another timeline you could find another Goku if you went I assume to the time nest it would most likely just be the same Chronoa unless I'm wrong about how that works.
Although maybe they could use it like that to hint at the other universes.
@@zelz3011 technically they not even in verse of sonic anymore but rather a combination of sonic and dbz verse so anything can happen in this what if
@@hackerninjaexe5791 Literally we're going to see how timetravel works soon I assume so like...
Because DBZ Time travel works differently.
Unless DAMON Is just BASED and somehow combines how timetravel works in both series into a weird web of timelines and universes.
@@zelz3011 if ya referring to timelines that's not what I mean in my comment- that's alternate timelines I did mention universe 6? Since in dbz the universes there are different as well they seem to be parallels instead being alternate universes
@@hackerninjaexe5791 No ah well...
I'm so bad at this.
I was using Timelines and how DB works with that to point out that it might work differently.
So with Universes they might just work differently as well rather than shoving other characters into other universes but for me it's fine anyways because either it would be forshadowing or maybe they are not directly.
Once again I think there are spaces inbetween the universes so maybe they could make whatever dimension in there so it's a vague thing they could use as a small gag or question.
I can't wait for the Android/Cell arc +is Mecha Frieza still invading with King Cold I wonder what future trunks will tell Goku & Sonic
Bet sonic will learn the Hyper form
Do you think it will happen buddy?
Maybe super sonic absorbing energy from the master emerald while still in his super form or using the emeralds into super emeralds
DAMN YOU KEN PENDERS!!!!!! WHY MUST YOU HAVE WON THAT LAWSUIT?!!!!!!
Hello damon I found out a way to get sonic power level. So if you use domination multipliers which you can see if you scroll down sonic has to be 2 times stronger than Frieza until he starts to slow down which makes him 1.75 times stronger than Frieza which makes sonic power level 240,000,000 but when he starts to slow down his power level is 137,142,857 so we can round up to get 140,000,000 and we can find his base power level by dividing 240,000,000 by 50 to get 4,800,000 I hope you see this Damon end line.
x1.25 stronger = start to overwhelm
x1.5 stronger = easy to overwhelm
x1.75 stronger = high end domination
x2 stronger = tank attack unhurt
x2.25 stronger = absorb/take control of opponents energy using simply raw strength
He’s not using power levels all that much. But wisps are a 20 times boost.
Mother Wisp Freeza power level is 1,200,000,000.
How did you get a 20 times boost of power? I was talking about final form Frieza not mother wisp Frieza and how did you get power level of 1,200,000,000 for mother wisp?
@@chasey6932 he stated in the comments of part 2, that Wisp form are a 20 times boost,
So times 60,000,000 x 20 and there you go.
Goku and Sonic got a super Duper rage boost.
I honestly have to thank you reason is because last time I use domination multipliers how strong everyone was at the start of dbz I managed to figure out everyone’s power level and the add all of that up to get 8,539.5 seeing how raditz was able to handle all of them I said that he was 2.25 times stronger than everyone combined then I got 19,213.875 then I round up that number to 20,000 then multiplying raditz power level by random numbers until I got something similar to that number which got me thinking that the multiplier had to be 18 but now have a official number to work with I can feel a bit easier about this thank you
Also just imagine full powered frieza and a 20 times boost
I’m serious another part would be freaking awesome. If this part a loan for Goku at super Saiyan level which matches on par with us super chaos form I can’t wait to see what happens when they continue down the road or even if he can combine the two.
OH MY LORD, THIS WAS THE BEST FINALE YET, YOU EVEN MADE DR.GREO IN THE PART WITH EGGMAN,(nice plot twist, but I have a question if metal sonic and goku got the data on super sonic and ssj goku how is this going to effect 16,17,18 and cell?) but great work nonetheless and like you said, see you in the next arc!
@Damon: What If
Hey Damon, Big fan of this what if and I don’t know if you take suggestions or not but I’ll say this anyway
Aside from the obvious Sol Dimension being Universe 6, I was thinking what if all the other universes also had video game franchises tied to them too? It could make a really cool Tournament of Power seeing other video game franchise characters duking it out alongside the canon universe fighters and because each universe has a twin whose numbers add up to 13 (like 7 and 6) perhaps each twin universe could having a video game franchise that are in some way linked to each other like one universe having Crash Bandicoot and it’s twin universe having Spyro the Dragon or having characters that fit the motif of their universe like Megaman being in Universe 3 where their fighters had a robotic motif to them
Hope you think about this
Oh and since Team Universe 11 was all Pride Troopers you could have whatever video game franchise Universe 11 has have characters be part of the Pride Troopers too
oh, heck yeah! This was so boss! I am obsessed with this so much, I can't wait for what comes next!
I like how you made Hyper/Master Kami the same color as Orange Piccolo from Super Hero.
I can't lie I wasn't sure about the series at first but when I saw it, I was thinking one thing..THIS IS AMAZING. The story line, world building, and saga combination is GENIUS. AND on top of that you have animation. Damon.. I commend you for this series and thank you for bringing it to the World :D. Now heres some suggestions I had. [below] @Damon: What if?
Characters-
I Saw how you kinda set up the Amy x Shadow thing which would clearly( and Ig base on everyone, even me)be a Great way to introduce Silver. I was also thought how Trunks would also existed aswell, So I was thinking Trunks and Silver could be like Best friends.. The warriors of Hope.
Androids-
For the android I was thinking of a Crazy good idea. So ok We have 2 smart people right... So what I was thinking is that You would have(in the present time atleast) Android 17,18, Metal Sonic,Metal Goku, and Emerl. I was think, sense Eggman is there and he got dat scholar mentality he could help build extra androids like 13,14, 15, and a BETTER 16. I think it would be cool to add all these androids. And atleast there'd be enough of them to handle the bigger Z team lol. As for cell I was thinking.. WHAT IF he has to absord 17,and 18 for his perfect form. But to go beyond that he HAS to combind himself with Emerl, kinda like super 17.
(AND that my suggestin can't wait to see how this series come out :)
What if a part of iblius is inside 17 and 18 and mephiles is either born in cell shadow, or gets absorbed by cell so when the mephiles cell combination absorbs 17 and 18 combined with ibilius, we get get a combination of solaris and perfect Cell
Guys, now Goku and Sonic really have to become masters of spirit control as Doctor Gero and Robotnik now have the data of everything that happened on Namek, that means the Androids' power will be much, much, much greater. Now I hope the Z's have at least trained and learned fusion to be minimally useful. However, I DO NOT IMAGINE A DESTROYED BUT CONTROLLED FUTURE, I believe that Gero and Robotnik have full control of their androids in the present and in the future, otherwise Earth would not exist in any timeline with machines with this power. I imagine that the world of Dragon Ball in the Future is ruled by two dictators Gero and Robtnik (in a state of Cold War) and with that destroying the world in the future. And that Trunks and other survivors fight a guerrilla war against the Androids and other machines, who ultimately may have enslaved Gero and Robotnik after they prove to be flawed, after which they plan to turn all Earthlings into cyborg machines.
Considering Metal Sonic Betrayed Eggman in heroes, which might be aligning with the Android Saga I think it's likely Metal Sonic and Metal Goku will Rebel and possibly side with 17 and 18.
So what your saying is after Gero and Eggman wipe out all of the threat to their empire (With the exceptions of Trunks, Bulma, Amy, Shadow, Tails, and Gohan with Silver being born later. and maybe Yamcha and Krillin) Greo then Betrays Eggman (I bet Gero didn't tell Eggman about the Infinite engines to get a one up on Eggman). and then this results in the cold war between Dr. Gero and Dr.Eggman with our survivors trying to put an end to this tyranny. And then Metal Sonic and Metal Goku betray Eggman Metal Sonic did in Sonic Heroes with causes them to team up with the other Androids to overthrow Dr. Geo and take over both the Empires.
@@StarKiller-jq2bu Uh, no, I was thinking something more along the lines of what happened with the Androids in Canon, but who knows, and that's just my general thought on what might happen there.
@@wires-sl7gs I was referring to Trunks' future when typing this unless your referring to something else then this is understandable
I feel like some Namekians will stay on angel island and start their own colony on earth for how kami was able to chaos control almost everyone to earth
That would be a neat idea. Makes sense too, I'd imagine some might not one to go with the eggs in one basket approach, especially with what happened on Namek. Though, Unless it's specifically the village that Amy saved, It might be a bit hard to justify a deviation from Canon-like that, but it would be a deviation I'd support either way.
This was an amazing and the most action packed part ever