Them having such a deep emotional convo while Trisha has two crows on her head and there is the nasty cheese fountain in the middle is such a funny contrast
Trisha is right about this situation. DO NOT DEGRADE YOUR WOMAN to other WOMEN or ANYONE PERIOD. Venting is one thing but he was clearly trying to embarrass her. If she does smell that is something he should talk to her about it no one else HE IS HONEST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE so the fact he went to tell someone she smells was 100% malicious.
I mean I’ve been getting a really bad shady vibe lately from Moses . At first I thought he was amazing for Trisha but now idk, and his family seems super toxic especially after the last couple of Podcasts with Ethan... Now I don’t know if these are my own mental illness issues being projected onto her situation but I hope she stays safe and protects her mental health❤️
I’ve dumped a guy for just talking to a girl i use to be friends with. Knowing the girl in the DMs was a stalking troll makes it feel like betrayal. Now she just has one up on Trisha, plus Trisha will never know if he actually meant it or not.
if Moses was so "ego-less" and "spiritual", he would admit that the texts to the chick was wrong, hurtful and suspicious. like why cant he just admit it? its so weird how hes trying to deny it and push it away when thats clearly what is preventing Trisha from moving on from it. he cant seem to admit any of his faults, while Trisha is extremely honest. I'm sad to see my girl like this.
It's because people who have a "cult-leader mentality" never admit they are wrong. Look up any cult leader. I'm calling it now- Moses wants to start some weird cult in a pool or bath house or something. Dude is bogus.
I mean I’ve been getting a really bad shady vibe lately from Moses . At first I thought he was amazing for Trisha but now idk, and his family seems super toxic especially after the last couple of Podcasts with Ethan... Now I don’t know if these are my own mental illness issues being projected onto her situation but I hope she stays safe and protects her mental health❤️
Ugh well there goes me thinking Moses was a good guy. The comment he made about her vag is terrible and extremely hurtful to a woman. Sending a hug ur way Trish.
@Sarah Plummer agreed! This episode definitely has changed my opinion of Moses. Him dm-ing other girls while they’re on a “break” is one thing, but the comments he made about her when he didn’t think she would see it were really harsh. At this point I feel like those comments are truly how he feels about her, or at the very least felt about her. But to spend all that time with her in the beginning to come out of it saying those hurtful things just makes him seem really manipulative.
@Sarah Plummer exactly... they tried to make it look better by saying he doesnt really think that and that he was hurt. But that's so childish like he was upset and started shit talking her about private embarradsing shit to a stranger???? thats a grown adult and that actitud is extremely inmature and unatractive
If my partner told me he doesn’t want to have sex with me and that I smell bad, behind my back, I’d absolutely break up with him that is so messed up dude
It is kind of annoying that Moses won’t admit that he hits on girls. Trisha is honest about her sexual past & it’s the most irritating thing that he says “I was trolling” 🤮
Also he mumbled something on here about sleeping with only one other woman? Did anyone else hear that?while they were on a break? Like who’s that woman then?
Kalani moore if that’s true then why doesn’t that Moses guy just open up to her? Is she jealous or angry because he’s being deceptive to her? Who knows
I feel so sorry for Trisha in this, the stuff Moses said is horrible and a comment like that will obviously stick in her mind it would for anyone. Moses also seems very defensive he needs to apologise sincerely.
literally the entire room was going against Trish and she stood her ground and I’m so proud of her for that. She was 100% valid for feeling how she did.
Just because trish has mental illness doesn’t mean she’s always overreacting, how hard would it be for moses to apologize?😕 I hope trish doesn’t doubt her judgement here
I can’t stand when people just assume because you have mental health problems that you can’t ever behave like someone without those problems. It’s so disappointing.
they really are siblings. trisha hosts ted talks on how much she hates ethan, but when she doesn't see him for a week she's crying and now they're back eating cheese & steak together 💀❣️
My ex told his friend something personal about me that I was super insecure about. It’s been 9 years and I still am so self conscious and think about it! I will never forget it. I agree with Trish on this, that’s super messed up!
Trisha was saying she’d quit the podcast if they broke up and expected that Ethan would not allow her on the podcast if they did break up, because she expected it would be the same as her Jason break up where the vlog squad completely cut her off. Which is sad. I hope this never ends. 😢
Trisha’s feelings about what Moses has said about her behind her back are COMPLETELY VALIDDD. She’s not simply clinging onto the past just to cause conflict, she was hurt by what he said and him being single doesn’t make it right. Moses can’t just expect her to let it go. Sure Moses was hurt but those statements don’t just happen without some truth. He needs to be upfront about all that he’s said behind her back and apologize. They’re a good couple but Moses, please consider her feelings and just be honest.
@Rick Don I can see both sides and I think all around they have a lot of issues, and have both exhibited toxic behavior, i don't think ones necessarily the "bad guy" with one being the "good one" like the internet often has to make things out to be. It's not black and white (and saying this I don't mean to try and soften either issue being discussed, like i'm not trying to say it's okay )
@@cloverneko This ^^^ I think there are many unhealthy actions that each person is taking: Trisha's accusations and Moses' venting to random strangers are both really awful ways to release the pent up frustrations in the relationship. It fucked.
just bc he’s calmer doesn’t mean he’s right. “if you love someone, you’ll forgive them” is straight up manipulation. some things are just harder to forgive and let go, ESPECIALLY an offense as great as that one. every time she brings it up, moses should apologize instead of getting defensive. admit he was in the wrong and work from there. it works both ways, too, if moses brings up something trisha did to him that hurt him, trisha should apologize. if you see your s/o hurting over something you did, no matter how long ago it was, your #1 priority should be to make them feel better, not gaslight them for feeling that way. you can’t expect someone to move on from something so hurtful and then get mad when they bring it up again
When you truly forgive, you can't hold the thing you've forgiven over the person's head all the time. That much is true. You can't be bringing it up in every argument and you have to accept the reality and move on. But the saying goes "forgiven NOT forgotten" because forgiving means giving a second chance. You forgiving means if you're arguing over where to eat, you can't say "well I've forgiven you for cheating on me so you owe me!" or if your partner comes home 15 minutes late you don't have the right to scream at them and say "well how do I know you weren't cheating on me you did it once!" but it DEFINITELY does not mean you tolerate being cheated on and that you will forgive your partner a second time. Trisha was entitled to make Moses work harder to earn back her trust and the "forgiven means forgotten" comment is a red flag.
@Silveryn did you miss the episode where they literally all gave her shit and she cried about how much she regretted it....? So moses never gets to be held accountable for anything because of that? Your pulling the same shit moses did 'well you did something too so I don't have to own up to anything'.
I agree!! People are so quick to jump to call trisha crazy but at the end of the day she's a human being too. If any of these things happened to anyone else nobody would question their feelings about it.
1. Please don't ever cancel this show ever pls 2. Apologize to trish! We're the first to call her out on wrong doings and things she says but that doesn't mean we won't call out when she is in the right. Hila and Ethan need to see these comments and actually talk about this. I understand no ones perfect and things like this happen and we still love you guys so much but pls see these points!!
Ooooooh if someone I was dating said that about me, they would be immediately dumped. End of story. You never, ever speak like that about your partner to anyone, ever. There is no grey area. Bye 👋🏻
My biggest annoyance is that Trisha brings up something that legitimately hurt her, she was gaslight by everyone there, and then Moses's response was "oh but SHE slept with 10 people". Falacy! She told you! And Ethan was disgusting. "okay Moses messaging 3(1) girl, but TRISHA? 10 GUYS?" The lying is being overlooked and her honesty is being shamed. Absolutely disgusting.
Agree. I think it probably wasnt a smart move for Trish to has this out with a room full of people that are related to Moses :( I was rooting for her the whole time! She's a better women that me, because I would have left Moses on a second!
No one can take her seriously that's why. Shes a troll & expects people to take her seriously. Its her own fault shes NOT a genuine person & whoever doesn't see it is very gullible.
@@babyfirefly118 I disagree, no matter what was in her past- when a hurt person says they have been hurt, no one can disavow that. There is communication, relationship building, and other tools to understand one another again but by gaslighting and bringing up her past doesn't achieve anything.
Hila’s defense for Moses just did not make sense to me. Just because Moses would never say it to her face does not make it any better. If my parts smelled bad I would 10000% percent rather my man let me know than tell someone else. Him telling someone else is an attempt to portray her poorly, him telling her to her face would another be thing. Also the Hinge thing is a red flag!!
Imagine if Ethan said this about Hila: - Hila cant control her eating - Hila's 🐈 stank - Hila uses too much teeth during BJs (All while they were in the process of trying to buy a house together and conciev baby Theodore!) I HIGHLY DOUBT Hila would have forgiven Ethan if he got catfished 3x by the same stalker bitch tryna bust a nut in the DMs w strangers on the Internet. Hila's advice was ASS. It displayed a huge lack of empathy towards Trisha and bias towards Moses. TRASH
BronzeBellaBria I completely agree! They love making trisha feel like she’s crazy for having feelings. Her therapists recommended her to break up with Moses if she wasn’t able to get over him saying her vagina smelled and that she had a problem eating. Funny how after this advice she tried to break up with him and now he’s starting to nut in her. He’s trying to trap her.
> He doesn't actually believe that she smells bad. He was just hurt and said stupid shit. We have definitely seen how vindictive Trisha can be. > Hinge still shows inactive users Both these things were sent by an account that wants to sabotage her, so that is more of a red flag to me.
@@Beastofdestruct if Moses said that stuff to be cruel then he is an immature person and they shouldn't be together. You shouldn't be able to say that stuff about your partner so lightly
Is anyone else really sad and disappointed that hila actually stuck up for Moses? Like I get hes your brother but that was super wrong what he did to trisha...
i don't think she was deffending him, she was just clarifying that it is different to vent something nasty to actually meaning it and saying it to your face, she didn't say that it was right, just that is different...
@@George-vb1yr no, it’s not understandable. I love my brother but I’m not oblivious to know he took advantage of my ex sister in law and didn’t treat her well. Just because someone is family doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge when they do bullshit. What she said didn’t even make sense, the way someone talks about you behind your back is how they REALLY feel about you.
Didn't have an opinion on Hila until now. Disgusting person, I thought I hated Ethan at first and it really took me like, a month of warming up before I even enjoyed Ethan. But now I question his taste. He married Hila? Idk man
Updated opinion. I'm very on the fence. I've given her the benefit of the doubt and gotten to know her personality a little more (as a viewer dur) and she's very, careful. Tries not to be negative, and I think why I disliked her was because whenever she did say something bad, it was BAD. Because it's most likely been built up from not letting it out. That being said, I don't think she's a disgusting person. But I'm not a fan of hers.
Trisha you really do deserve an apology on this one.. He doesn't have your back if he can easily just bash you to a stranger..dont forgive him for that..
If I was talking to a man and he started to bash his exes genitals I would nope out of that budding relationship so fast. If he'll do it to her, he'll do it to you. Plus, who even wants to hear about someone's ex? TF? Answers to questions I never asked, buddy... He clearly has more growing up to do than they've ever let on. "it was because my feelings were hurt" "it was just retaliation"... That makes it WORSE! WTF? Trisha is RIGHT to feel hurt by that.
I usually always agree with ethan and hila, but what moses was doing IS sketchy and trisha can be upset by it. HE is 100% in the wrong and you guys acted very insensitive and rude making trish feel crazy. Her feelings are valid, if hila saw ethan do that she probably would be upset and hurt and the other way around. Disappointed
With the way she acts on a regular basis, and the fact that she had to snoop around his private conversations to see it? _YES._ Men are allowed to have feelings too.
@@existenceisrelative People don't understand how deeply damaging offhand comments that sometimes people can't get over and its ridiculous to think she shouldn't feel that way Moses can be taken aback by that but she has every right to not forgive
@@redblackwhitestripes Dude, she had to violate his privacy to encounter that "offhand comment." There are good, entirely selfish reasons why you shouldn't do bad things like violate other's privacy. She found one, and has to live with what she learned.
@@existenceisrelative Feelings, yes, but any man who would say/text an unbelievably disgusting comment like that is a POS without a doubt. No ring in the world would be big enough to forgive that. And if Trisha was not a shallow person who equated love with money, gifts, etc she would have walked away from him. Look at his past-years with not dating? Yet he was on a dating site so he was hooking up only. It tells you the kind of man he really is. That quiet soft spoken nature does not hide the fact that he is a pig. What other man would be happy that his future wife degrades herself for money on multiple platforms? But yet they are still trying to have a baby???? OMG what an absolute train wreck these two are.
@@alana4847 it doesn't matter if he said it out of anger... HE STILL SAID IT. ive had a similar experience with someone who said something terrible to me and justified it by saying they said it out of anger. its a terrible feeling that doesn't deserve justification. nobody's even fucking defending Trisha. we're holding Moses accountable for lying, talking shit behind her back, and then gaslighting her by saying he was hurt. she was hurt too. he's clearly wrong in this situation and if you defend him you're defending a liar and a gaslighter
I really feel like Trisha had a point. When someone makes a mean comment about an intimate part of you, you aren’t just going to forget about it. It’s so easy to develop an insecurity after that. I feel like that’s a very valid reason to be uncomfortable even if it happened long ago.
This just proves that Trisha is not always the bad guy. Jason always put her in that light, but I think he was just as toxic. Looks like it might be happening again.
I honestly kinda understand Trisha's side regarding the whole thing at the end. I could barely forgive something like that. If they break up I hope she stays for the podcast because her and Ethan's weird chemistry is unmatched.
100%. Even if they weren't dating, those comments are really harsh. I would be uncomfortable if someone said they loved me but said horrible things to strangers about me. I guess it's possible he said really mean things bc he was mad. But i'd constantly be questioning what is the truth... if they secretly think those things or not.
Oh they are definitely both in the wrong for sure I'm not excusing her behaviour, I was just pointing out that her complaint is valid in my opinion, which people usually automatically don't take into account. I don't think his complaints aren't valid I'm just saying I get this time where she's coming from. They both seem to be trying to work it out tho, she's going to therapy and he seem to be willing to have an open discussion and trying to understand her and if it all works out more power to them.
dude this episode still gets me so angry trisha had literally every right to be mad and everyone was just gaslighting her into thinking her feelings weren't valid? when ethan said "isn't that sweet" cuz moses admitted to saying that bc he was upset i got especially annoyed cuz what about that is sweet like wtf they were both assholes for that (moses for obviously doing it and ethan for defending him so hard). fucking hila too for her horrible advice god…
I get angry every episode for seeing how Trisha treats Ethan and because of the idiocy she radiates. She’s a terrible person yet everyone decides to ignore that for whatever reason.
Yeah that was a very cruel thing to say. Moses comes accross as a fairly chill and nice dude but based on this and a few other things I get the impression he might be kind of a POS. At one point in a podcast episode from earlier this year Ethan strongly implied that him and Hila would be more likely to forgive Trisha than Moses so he must have done something serious to upset them too.
@@yacobeinauan9533 Chill dude, I like Ethan too and Trisha definitely has some personality traits that make her not a great friend to have but that's a bit hyperbolic
It's wrong to ignore Trisha's issue. By the way, she is right and Hila's take is disturbing - saying something bad about someone behind their back is worse than saying it face-to-face. Moses cannot acknowledge that he knows Trisha is unstable, then enter into a relationship with her, then add to the instability, and wonder why things are bad. Moses is not the "Peace and Love" guy he pretends to be. It's very easy to be a 'Free-Spirit' when you don't care.
Although yes I don't think anyone should ever talk shit behind someones back, it doesn't always mean they ment what they said. It's wrong, but people especially in relationships have bad moments and venting to someone else is one way (although wrong) happens. I think what Hila ment is that Moses doesn't actually think that, and that's why he would never say smth like that straight to Trisha. She's not lifting blame of of him but tells it so that Trisha don't feel as hurt.
@@Steve-lu1nc I absolutely understand. The reason why Hila's take is disturbing to me is that she doesn't differentitate between "Trisha hurt me because she is insensitive" and "Trisha smells". The problem is with regard to the kind of "bad" thing mentioned. Moses acted like a 3-year-old.
@@menandwomenarefromearth okay that I agree with hundred percent, don't really know why would anyone say smth like that. It's a hell of a lot different then venting about being annoyed with your partner
moses is disgusting & the way ethan bent over backwards to excuse his behavior was annoying, but the absolute worst part was hila’s comment. i never expected her to say such an ignorant, toxic thing.
he gets insanely mean comments on instagram, that might get to his head? although comments on youtube have been much more positive these last couple of months.. he just likes self deprecating
@Rana Afhami no shes always called out on almost everything as she should be if its not right but a lot of people get a pass for treating her badly just because she reacts without thinking
@Rana Afhami You say that on every post. Why do you feel so involve? Both can have done some bad things. One does not excuse the other. And bejng Nice sometimes does not excuse bad béhavior. Actions do.
Moses is in the wrong, ethan and hila please realize that. She didn’t deserve to be gaslighted and have her feelings belittled. You shouldn’t just give moses the “pass” because he’s family. Please apologize to Trisha.
@@nikki1932 they literally invalidated her feelings to the point where she felt the need to say it was HER fault and that it was on her. thats gaslighting. doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that
@@nikki1932 they don’t recognize her feelings they deny them and tell her what she’s feeling is wrong. Moses was 100 percent in the wrong but since they’re family they’re gonna be on his side
@@tokenofdevotion i’m not talking about people who trisha has had beef with, i’m talking about her significant other talking shit about her behind her back and having his sister justify it by saying “you weren’t meant to see it”. yes everyone has talked shit behind someone’s back, but it’s different when it’s your fucking boyfriend. like what? please explain to me how thats okay, and on top of that having his whole family undermine her feelings and making her blame herself for HIS actions
I feel like Trisha makes Ethan a more compassionate person and Ethan helps Trish to calm down and trust in people more. I actually missed this show the last week!
I feel like Trisha makes Ethan a more compassionate person and Ethan helps Trish to calm down and trust in people more. I actually missed this show the last week!
It makes my fucking blood boil that she is literally expressing to them that he has bashed her behind her back like a snake, talking about her eating disorder, her vaginal health, etc. He is not a good person for that. Why are they not holding him accountable???? If Trish did the EXACT same thing to Moses they would call her crazy once a fucking gain. They are not her friends.
I’m SO GLAD that everyone is agreeing with Trish in the comments. Moses is definitely in the wrong and it must be so difficult for her to get over him saying that behind her back it’s so disrespectful
Ethan, I love watching you guys eat while you chat!! It’s the best. And no, it’s not proper to use the Lords name in vain ever. There are so many other words you can say, so why do it? It’s hurtful to hear to those of faith and is considered a sin.
I think their angle was like "well he was just venting" -- he vented to a stranger? About her vagina smelling and her eating disorder? Where is his remorse? Why is he so defensive? I felt like Trisha had so little support here it's killing me
Ok. I literally just commented how sweet Moses was on a newer episode and I wish I could take it back. What he said was HURTFUL and trying to say “because he said it behind her back and not to her” -doesn’t-make it ok. When you read or hear something like that said about you, it does stick with you. I feel for you Trish. Sorry babe.
I was 100% supportive of Trisha being with Moses, but after this episode.... she needs to kick him to the curb. He's manipulative and sees Trisha as an easy target.
Armchair psychologist pls stfu, I agree what we saw is sketch but we saw basically NOTHING. They have actual lives off camera, we dont have the right to make those judgements
For Moses to say something like that to SOMEONE NOT IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP behind her back is betrayal. It’s so emotionally damaging for someone to comment about her body in an incredibly vulnerable state at sex. It’s so sad that Hila would defend that behavior. I’d rather my sexual partner tell me to my face in a gentle and loving way, than go behind my back and talk about me to someone else.
@Danielle ROESCH I’m referencing the part where he texted another girl on Instagram about Trisha and her body. I’m not sure the time stamp but he said some other not nice things too and Hila defended that behavior by saying it’s better to talk about someone behind their back than to their face
Trisha is worthy of love, appreciation and healing. She seems like she's working very hard on herself and how she interacts with Ethan and others. I love to see it! Also- Moses was in the wrong. WAY in the wrong. Very disappointed. I hope Trisha can see her worth in this situation.
You're right. All these comments about moses are right. Except the sad thing is that this will prompt a break up and Ethan and Trisha won't be related. I'm sure frenemies will continue but the dynamic will be different
Hila basically told Trisha "he can say anything about you behind your back and you can't care about it". Moses is doing a ton of gaslighting here. Forgiving does not equal forgetting. He's not validating of her feelings whatsoever. Lots of people have issues moving on from something, but healthy people acknowledge that in their partner and allow them to have those feelings, not hold it against them.
That’s not what Hila said. Hila’s point was that because of the fact that you don’t think the other person will see it, people say shit they don’t mean. If he really meant it and wanted to hurt her he would’ve just said it to her face. I’m sure everyone has said stuff that they felt in the moment and regretted later
Helen Kim ya exactly, everyone makes mistakes, and if he says he loves her then they should just put the mistakes behind them and just work in being more loving instead of fault finding, I hope he apologizes for what he said and then it is easier to forgive and forget.
why is everyone gaslighting trish, moses needs to take accountability for his actions they keep telling her to get over it when they know her background, she has every right to be upset
Hila justified her brother’s words by saying that ”they weren't meant for you to see”. I get that she is protecting her brother, but I also understand why Trisha is hurt by it. I wouldn't like it if my significant other started talking shit about me behind my back.
Moses didn’t public shame her, Trisha is notorious for public shaming her significant others. By even talking about his private DMs in public is an act of betrayal
Hila said that because they were private DMs that were sent before they were officially dating. I do think what Moses said was really fucked up, but I don’t think it would be honest to say that he was Trisha’s “significant other” at the time. They specifically stated in the podcast that they were not together when the messages were sent. Trisha deserves someone that respects the mental health conditions she has to live with. Moses seems to have a hard time grasping the differences between the two of them. Moses and Hila are very “chill” people, and I can understand why they don’t grasp the way that Trisha’s thought processes work. Not everyone is perfect.
I hope Trisha notices how most people are on her side, not Moses's. I wish Hila and Ethan would realize how weird/creepy/disgusting Moses seems in this. No one should say those kind of things about their partner. To their face or to strangers! Seems pretty gaslighting to blame her... I wish Trisha well
Only knowing her from her antics when she first started coming around, I figured Trisha was the obvious predator using Moses as a ins to disrupt Ethan and Hilas life out of spite, and Moses was just some poor sucker in the middle. I stopped watching H3 because it just seemed so gross and deliberate on everybody’s part. Now, I think Moses was the one scheming the whole time and Trisha is the one being duped.
I kinda get what Trisha is saying about Moses’ past dm’s coming out still. He can’t expect her not to react to it. If he said shitty stuff about her in the past, and it’s STILL coming out... like damn. The least he could do is show everything and talk through it. That way everything is on the table. If past info keeps coming out, it’s just gonna keep weighing the relationship down.
Also the DMs are coming out in real time. Even if they’re old, it’s the first time she’s seeing them and they feel new. Plus she struggles with bpd and thats literally a weakness of the disorder is obsessing over stuff and not letting it go. As she said it’s not about Moses or even what he said, it’s her struggling with her inability to let go. We are all watching her struggle with her mental health.
While I think Moses could better accommodate her disorder by readily validating her because that’s what she needs in order to maintain her inner harmony, it probably is exhausting to consistently validate, esp coming from a culture where that’s not the norm
The thing is, when someone is denying your experience you can’t move past it. If Moses just admitted what he did/said was wrong, Trisha would be able to move on. Denying it makes Trisha feel crazy, and makes her feel like her experience isn’t valid ...
On an older H3 podcast, Hila couldn't handle a hypothetical scenario in which Ethan might receive a flirty message and he would click on the girl's instagram to see what she looked like. I don't think Hila would be so chill if Ethan spoke to a girl behind her back saying the things Moses did. Trish was valid here.
Yeeees! She can’t handle him even seeing an IG model profile imagine if he said the same about her to someone else? She shouldn’t feel bad tho because SHE WASNT MEANT TO SEE IT. That double standard because it’s her brother
was this about her saying “u shouldn’t hear the stuff said about u behind ur back” ?? she’s so right about that. its not meant for you to hear and that’s okay!
I would buy a frenemies hoodie easily. Half black, half pink. And if this podcast dies I would still be ok with that because the word frenemies is an aesthetically pleasing word to me
I'm with Trisha on this one. It's so weird to talk trash about your significant other to strangers, even if you don't mean it, you just don't do that. Especially that you're not like a couple of unknown people and that conversation is gonna disappear and never come up again. Trisha is a famous personality and a chat with her boyfriend saying shit like that about her is definitely gonna circulate online. I know Moses loves her but he should know better.
I agree, I always find that when people talk about their significant others or supposed friends behind their back, it says more about them than the person they're bitching about. Maybe if it's "hey this one off situation happened and I'm telling you about it because I don't know what to do / don't know if my reaction was right" but that's it, and never on a public platform or to strangers who might share private info. It's just really gross to me.
THIS! it seemed like it was much deeper too than just her smelling bad. like her eating habits, her being obsessive, none of that is nice to say about your significant other and it makes me really sad that she’s dealing with that. it’s gonna be extremely hard to let go because she probably thinks he’ll just do it again if they break up again. it’s just a shitty situation & he should’ve known better since she’s a public figure :(
You can still buy the merch they initially released back in 2021 on third party sites but it's hard to find and quite expensive. Used I think you can get the hoodies for like $200. Would have been nice to have bought it at the time given how much they have appreciated lol
I was really hoping that Hila was going to be on Trisha’s side when she chimed in. I don’t care if he was my brother I would tell Moses that he shouldn’t have said that, it’s pathetic and disrespectful. They were all gaslighting Trisha, I felt like I wanted to jump in and defend her. Moses is giving me major red flags. And we all know Trisha isn’t a saint either but now I’m starting to think Moses doesn’t really love her.
Yeah sounds like Hila lost her cool bc Trisha was exposing and embarrassing Moses (but she was telling facts)...and she was using her respectability powers to try to stop it and shut Trish up. She was probably triggered by all the crazy shit Trish says about her family and responded reactively. I bet after cooling down and processing she could see the error in her reaction. Gosh I’m sooooo curious about wtf Moses’ deal is and the dynamic he has w/Hila and their family. Is he like the psycho fuck up sibling that Hila knows is toxic?? Has he done fucked up shit in the past?? Is he just an enabler or a narcissist??
I actually felt really bad for Trisha when she was talking about the things Moses said about her. That was terrible and he doesn't even seem to feel bad very about it. This is a new side of both of them.
I won't pick a side, but you are. The relationship is toxic, not one side. He puts her down, she accuses him of statutory rape. It's definitely not a one-side issue. They're clearly terrible for each other and need to break up.
honestyly its so clear to me she has intense ass BPD, so do I so like, lol i really see my feelings reflected in her. honestly her feelings about it have to be so complex and confusing. just the biggest weight of a feeling it seems the way she talks about it
Yes & vice versa! Like Ethan would have made fun of Trisha for continuing to eat the steak after the bit was done, now he's like 'it's ok u can finish' 💜
Also really disappointed in hila. Nothing worse than a female who already knows the struggle of being invalidated go on to invalidate another female! She should know better!
I could see the disappointment in her face, especially after she's telling everyone to be quiet and wanna hear hilla's opinion. I get that it's her brother, but she doesn't even trying to be neutral and completely blame trish for finding out that moses talk shit behind her back. Girl...imagine if ethan did the same thing and talk about your pussy to instagram model in DM.
I normally side with Hila but her saying "sometimes people say things behind your back because they dont intend for you to hear it" was so wrong. Also Moses excuse of "I have no idea why my Hinge profile is active" doesnt hold up at all
Yeah the fact that hes been catfished 3 times since theyve started dating, has an apparently active hinge profile and then locked her out of his IG account doesn't really bode well. They act like Trisha is crazy for being upset. I expected more from Hila's female perspective. It's reasonable to be uncomfortable sleeping with someone who body shamed you
@@heatherfoster2752 could not have said it better myself. If my bf said about me what Moses said about Trish (to another girl!!!) I would not sleep with him again. And then he tried to say he was trolling because he was hurt... I would understand that if they were both 15 but that is so unacceptable from an adult who plans to buy a house with her and even has the nerve to try to knock her up after this. They're framing it like Trish is immature and unreasonable, when infact Moses' behaviour is even beyond that. I really hoped this was gonna work out, too.
@@Threecharacterslong That's why the dude is in his 40's and not married. And i've said this before, " no dude that respects himself would be with someone like Trisha." And now that those DM's have come out we can see that both people are toxic and can't be in a healthy relationship.
@@deadlyvixen yeah I can see what you mean. I always thought there was something off about Moses with his willingness to date her despite everything she said about his family. Its a shame though because shes clearly trying to get better and she looks to be making progress. I think Trish is learning to respect herself but Moses wont catch up. Its going to be a painful learning lesson.
Moses comments about Trisha are disgusting wether she was meant to be see them or not. If you actually loved someone you wouldn’t say it in the first place. No one even had her back!!disappointing to see everyone backing Moses when he’s clearly in a wrong.
@@PotatoMunch well if dating was a possibility then he shouldn’t of said those things. You don’t say horrible things about someone who you’re going to date do you? So why is he an exception? He’s clearly in the wrong.
@@PotatoMunch but she’s open about it , Moses hid it from her knowing it’d upset her. Why does it matter if she slept with ten guys or one, she was honest about it and I’m sure she feels guilty but Moses doesn’t even feel mildly guilty about the things he said. She said herself that’s it’s changed their relationship forever and I don’t know your gender but as a cis girl myself comments like that would destroy me to the core and I know if I found my boyfriend said those things about me I’d seriously consider leaving him. She was open, she was always happily open. He hid it, knowing it’d hurt her.
@@PotatoMunch Don't say you're sure he regrets it when he isn't even man enough to apologise for it and give a promise that it will never happen again.
5:25 As someone who's struggled with anorexia and body dysmorphia for over 7 years (currently recovering and regaining weight) bro I actually laughed my ass off at Ethan "trigger warning to anorexic people we're going to be eating a mukbang today" 😂
@@devlynnred2003 I don't like mukbangs because I'm neurodivergent and the smacking drives me nuts but I did/do watch vlogs where they go to restraunts or food trucks and show us their food or take a couple bites to "rate" it or even eat it as long as it was quiet! It helped me get an appetite looking at delicious foods and watching them eat would for some reason make me want to eat too! Now that I get apetites more (which I've improved greatly since I first made this comment) watching any video while eating helps me even if it's not food related because I don't focus on the food too much, I don't overthink, and it's comforting especially because I don't feel the pressure I feel when eating with real people!
I'm sorry Hila... I like you as a person and Teddy Fresh is, well, fresh, but that "advice" was awful. What you are saying is basically "It's not their fault for being sneaky and disrespectful behind your back. It's YOUR fault for finding out stuff you were not supposed to find out!" Like, girl...
Exactly. And let's be real, if the same situation played out with Ethan and Hila... well, you can bet Hila wouldn't be singing the same tune. Hell, if anyone asked Ethan if he would do what Moses did, he would almost certainly say no because obviously it's a shitty thing to do????
I gotta agree with this comment, she had an interesting perspective but at the same time going behind someone's back even if you're hurt is never defensible
Trisha is right though, she isn’t self-sabotaging, he is feeding her insecurities, he didn’t tell her that he thought her vagina smelled, he told someone else, so why would she feel confident that he would tell her if it smelled again? He would just think it to himself and that’s more scary in a way
She also talked about how he made comments about how he doesn't like periods and doesn't the smell/taste of a woman until she's been off her period for several days. I think this is the "smell" he's referring to. So boys out there - have some empathy and keep in mind it takes a couple days for the ph to get back to normal after a woman has had her period.
@@katherines6322 lol where are we? In the 50's were girls had to hide because their periods made them "dirty" ...I understand if you don't want to be eating out a bloody coochie,but you don't have to treat your girlfriend like shit just because of something she can't control...thay behaviour is fucking creepy
Yikes! the fact that Moses "Vents" like that about her to a stranger is insane to me. Trisha has every right to be upset. If she can't let the messages go maybe she should let the relationship go..
I’m wondering if Moses was a huge factor in things falling apart. He seems to be ok with saying things behind her back and spreading misinformation and bad mouthing his family to Trish.
something is off about moses. I feel like he's using trish for money or a boost of internet fame and in turn revenue towards his own line of work bc she did say she got him a laptop iphone etc. I do NOT understand why ethan defended moses of being on hinge by saying moses said he loves her. That doesn't delete a recently active dating app account..???? Like I get Ethan doesn't wanna fall out with trish again so he's being extra cautious but wtf was all that? And what was that "advice" from Hila? Trish was valid he's literally on dating apps, talking about her behind her back (which is ok in hila's eyes if she just doesnt know), and entertaining random people while being with her. Trish isn't gonna get past it bc hes saying he didnt then admitting it when there's proof and an audience. I criticize trish a lot but Moses isn't helping her issues. He's just adding fire.
yeah.. definitely super shady and I wish they didn't defend moses so much, I would hold on to those things if I were in that situation and I don't consider myself "crazy". that's a pretty normal reaction to some consistently shady behavior
Honestly, there's so much that she does behind the scene. Maybe he can't handle her moods and psych issues. We don't know it all. She wanted to keep his beating secret. But airs out him and other conversation. She also has sex with other ppl while in a relationship with Moses. There's more to it.
Trish gets everyone those kind of gifts though. She got Jason a laptop too, it's just her nature to spoil people because she spoils herself with expensive stuff
hey man. all of them are all in kahoots about how they all can earn the most money. its all a money grab. its actually really smart. it gets people talking just like this, but on blogs or by making a video about it. more clicks for their names
Not gonna lie the stuff Moses did was making me anxious and sending all kinds of alarms to even me and I’m not the one in the relationship. As someone who has been cheated on I get her concern on this one
Anyone else felt like Trisha was flirting with Ethan hard this episode? Then the whole, "oh hi Hila, you're here" caught her completely off guard. Lmao!
Them having such a deep emotional convo while Trisha has two crows on her head and there is the nasty cheese fountain in the middle is such a funny contrast
IKR ROFLMFAO
Lmfao all i could look at was the fountain when they were talking about her relationship 😂
ikr lol
isnt that like the mood of almost every episode
Part of the absolute greatness of this show. 😅
Trisha is right about this situation. DO NOT DEGRADE YOUR WOMAN to other WOMEN or ANYONE PERIOD. Venting is one thing but he was clearly trying to embarrass her. If she does smell that is something he should talk to her about it no one else HE IS HONEST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE so the fact he went to tell someone she smells was 100% malicious.
I think I would have a panic attack if I found a message like that to a girl from my boyfriend :(
They both said she don’t smell on the show, he said that because he’s nasty.
I mean I’ve been getting a really bad shady vibe lately from Moses . At first I thought he was amazing for Trisha but now idk, and his family seems super toxic especially after the last couple of Podcasts with Ethan... Now I don’t know if these are my own mental illness issues being projected onto her situation but I hope she stays safe and protects her mental health❤️
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’ve dumped a guy for just talking to a girl i use to be friends with. Knowing the girl in the DMs was a stalking troll makes it feel like betrayal. Now she just has one up on Trisha, plus Trisha will never know if he actually meant it or not.
if Moses was so "ego-less" and "spiritual", he would admit that the texts to the chick was wrong, hurtful and suspicious. like why cant he just admit it? its so weird how hes trying to deny it and push it away when thats clearly what is preventing Trisha from moving on from it. he cant seem to admit any of his faults, while Trisha is extremely honest. I'm sad to see my girl like this.
I don't buy into this "spiritual" facade
She clearly wants him to admit that it was wrong but he keeps being philosophical about it. Just admit the messages were wrong!
It's because people who have a "cult-leader mentality" never admit they are wrong. Look up any cult leader. I'm calling it now- Moses wants to start some weird cult in a pool or bath house or something. Dude is bogus.
@@rv8461 He? A leader? lmfao
I mean I’ve been getting a really bad shady vibe lately from Moses . At first I thought he was amazing for Trisha but now idk, and his family seems super toxic especially after the last couple of Podcasts with Ethan... Now I don’t know if these are my own mental illness issues being projected onto her situation but I hope she stays safe and protects her mental health❤️
it’s been 2 years and i would still buy a Frenemies hoodie
Saaaame
Definitely need a new merch drop
I'm so glad I bought one 😩😩 The only merch I have ever bought and the only merch I ever will.
Watching for the first time. Two years late lol. Wish I had some merch
Ugh so sad I didn’t buy one! I saw someone selling one for like $300 lol
PLEASE DON’T CANCEL THIS, it’s the only podcast i’ve ever been able to sit through and enjoy
I agree I look forward every week!
Big same I got the notification at work and was so excited to watch right now finally!
Everytime they upload its like I found a piece of candy
Honestly same here I don’t podcasts and this ones I can sit and watch it all
literally same!! i live for this duo
if trish does Cindy Lou Who on christmas, ethan NEEDS to be the Grinch. no questions asked.
YES
omg yesssssss
If he’s not I’ll be so upset
That was my first thought 😂
YESSSSSSSS
Ugh well there goes me thinking Moses was a good guy. The comment he made about her vag is terrible and extremely hurtful to a woman. Sending a hug ur way Trish.
@Sarah Plummer agreed! This episode definitely has changed my opinion of Moses. Him dm-ing other girls while they’re on a “break” is one thing, but the comments he made about her when he didn’t think she would see it were really harsh. At this point I feel like those comments are truly how he feels about her, or at the very least felt about her. But to spend all that time with her in the beginning to come out of it saying those hurtful things just makes him seem really manipulative.
@Sarah Plummer exactly... they tried to make it look better by saying he doesnt really think that and that he was hurt. But that's so childish like he was upset and started shit talking her about private embarradsing shit to a stranger???? thats a grown adult and that actitud is extremely inmature and unatractive
Where did he say something rude about her? I’m having trouble watching this episode because it’s so gross lol
@@battyboo3732 around the 50 min mark
Im trying to watch this but was so confused at first about everyone commenting about Moses being bad to Trisha ...
If my partner told me he doesn’t want to have sex with me and that I smell bad, behind my back, I’d absolutely break up with him that is so messed up dude
It is kind of annoying that Moses won’t admit that he hits on girls. Trisha is honest about her sexual past & it’s the most irritating thing that he says “I was trolling” 🤮
Also he mumbled something on here about sleeping with only one other woman? Did anyone else hear that?while they were on a break? Like who’s that woman then?
You got all that from an episode? Kinda shitty to make negative assumptions on a person jesus.
@@justinchan4203 those were things he said himself on the podcast
Trisha literally does only fans for a living she shouldn’t get so jealous
Kalani moore if that’s true then why doesn’t that Moses guy just open up to her? Is she jealous or angry because he’s being deceptive to her? Who knows
Petition for Trisha to keep wearing costumes for every episode
like the true moira rose
seriously though 🥺🤤😍
It’s really visually entertaining
Trisha is a costume in herself
I disagree Trisha should totally keep wearing costumes, I think it's cool
I feel so sorry for Trisha in this, the stuff Moses said is horrible and a comment like that will obviously stick in her mind it would for anyone. Moses also seems very defensive he needs to apologise sincerely.
He will never apologize, I knew a guy like him once and he was all about himself.
@@smac5869 He's so fucking weird I dunno
When did he say something
New account Who’s bish just like your attracted to comments here.
New account Who’s bish yours and your name is lacking,
literally the entire room was going against Trish and she stood her ground and I’m so proud of her for that. She was 100% valid for feeling how she did.
hila is such an L sometimes
Sometimes? @@neat24
@@neat24istg hila pisses me off sometimes 😭
Trisha saying she missed Ethan is such character development
they really feel like friends now
Well lets wait. Could be that she loses her shit in 20 minutes again
That was really sweet
@@sheabae8315 lmao she could have just meant she's tired, geez
i know right, it makes my heart happy
Just because trish has mental illness doesn’t mean she’s always overreacting, how hard would it be for moses to apologize?😕 I hope trish doesn’t doubt her judgement here
Trish Paytas literally physically assaulted Moses last month
Here here
I can’t stand when people just assume because you have mental health problems that you can’t ever behave like someone without those problems. It’s so disappointing.
@@Stefanifaith did you even listen to the story
Agreed!!
they really are siblings. trisha hosts ted talks on how much she hates ethan, but when she doesn't see him for a week she's crying and now they're back eating cheese & steak together 💀❣️
My ex told his friend something personal about me that I was super insecure about. It’s been 9 years and I still am so self conscious and think about it! I will never forget it. I agree with Trish on this, that’s super messed up!
oh girl i am SUPER sorry for you :(( i hope you get better, you don't deserve that at all!
Your ex is an ex for a reason babe. I hope you’ve healed ♥️
what did he say ? :(
yea idk why my man feels like he can share rly personal stuff abt me to his friends n family
Trish’s energy was sooo much better this episode, her and Ethan were really vibin in this one. Love to see it!
I thought she seemed very low, kindof like how I act when I’m sad/depressed/anxious. Just not AS vibrant as she usually is
We know she likes Food
I thought their energy wasn’t that great this episode
Think she needed the week off to reflect on how much she does actually like doing the show.
Dude she's more chill cause Hila is there....
Trisha was saying she’d quit the podcast if they broke up and expected that Ethan would not allow her on the podcast if they did break up, because she expected it would be the same as her Jason break up where the vlog squad completely cut her off. Which is sad. I hope this never ends. 😢
It's also true that she made multiple videos about how the vlog squad is horrible, pedophiles ect. before the break up
@@tortelliniinbrododigiuggio4462 well 2 of them are
@@tortelliniinbrododigiuggio4462 okay but like... she wasnt lyin tho
@@LluviaAva I know one of them. who's the other?
@@DanSwerdlove-wb5jl ikr, Trisha defending Evan Francisco and saying she would’ve hung out with him more if the internet didn’t expose him.
Trisha’s feelings about what Moses has said about her behind her back are COMPLETELY VALIDDD. She’s not simply clinging onto the past just to cause conflict, she was hurt by what he said and him being single doesn’t make it right. Moses can’t just expect her to let it go. Sure Moses was hurt but those statements don’t just happen without some truth. He needs to be upfront about all that he’s said behind her back and apologize. They’re a good couple but Moses, please consider her feelings and just be honest.
@Rick Don I can see both sides and I think all around they have a lot of issues, and have both exhibited toxic behavior, i don't think ones necessarily the "bad guy" with one being the "good one" like the internet often has to make things out to be. It's not black and white (and saying this I don't mean to try and soften either issue being discussed, like i'm not trying to say it's okay )
@@cloverneko This ^^^ I think there are many unhealthy actions that each person is taking: Trisha's accusations and Moses' venting to random strangers are both really awful ways to release the pent up frustrations in the relationship. It fucked.
just bc he’s calmer doesn’t mean he’s right. “if you love someone, you’ll forgive them” is straight up manipulation. some things are just harder to forgive and let go, ESPECIALLY an offense as great as that one. every time she brings it up, moses should apologize instead of getting defensive. admit he was in the wrong and work from there. it works both ways, too, if moses brings up something trisha did to him that hurt him, trisha should apologize. if you see your s/o hurting over something you did, no matter how long ago it was, your #1 priority should be to make them feel better, not gaslight them for feeling that way. you can’t expect someone to move on from something so hurtful and then get mad when they bring it up again
When you truly forgive, you can't hold the thing you've forgiven over the person's head all the time. That much is true. You can't be bringing it up in every argument and you have to accept the reality and move on. But the saying goes "forgiven NOT forgotten" because forgiving means giving a second chance.
You forgiving means if you're arguing over where to eat, you can't say "well I've forgiven you for cheating on me so you owe me!" or if your partner comes home 15 minutes late you don't have the right to scream at them and say "well how do I know you weren't cheating on me you did it once!" but it DEFINITELY does not mean you tolerate being cheated on and that you will forgive your partner a second time. Trisha was entitled to make Moses work harder to earn back her trust and the "forgiven means forgotten" comment is a red flag.
Moses talking talking trash about Trisha behind her back to a stranger is a big red flag. I feel really bad for Trish..
I want to hug Trish! She's totally valid! Trish do whatever makes you happy... But get an ironclad prenup, girl.
aza B i
@englishrain what happened ?
Silveryn how do you know he wasn’t hitting her? So many assumptions on here.
@Silveryn did you miss the episode where they literally all gave her shit and she cried about how much she regretted it....? So moses never gets to be held accountable for anything because of that? Your pulling the same shit moses did 'well you did something too so I don't have to own up to anything'.
That is so messed up of Moses, I would never feel comfortable s*xually with someone after that they said that about me, just low of him
The thing he dmed another girl even hurt my feelings for Trisha... you can’t get over that kind of stuff easily and I wish they wouldn’t excuse it
Right? Wtf. I just broke up with my partner is SEVEN YEARS for this. Because I know I'm never gonna be able to salvage any trust from it.
i totally understand that she wouldnt be able to forget it lol
i would break up the minute I discovered that.
I agree!! People are so quick to jump to call trisha crazy but at the end of the day she's a human being too. If any of these things happened to anyone else nobody would question their feelings about it.
I can't wait to understand what the hell this is about lol
“Frenemies hoodie but the shows over”
Ooof that psychic moment
That’s exactly what I was thinking lmao
I've been watching all the old episodes and they really do a good job of predicting their demise in the first few and this one.
Omg
1. Please don't ever cancel this show ever pls 2. Apologize to trish! We're the first to call her out on wrong doings and things she says but that doesn't mean we won't call out when she is in the right. Hila and Ethan need to see these comments and actually talk about this. I understand no ones perfect and things like this happen and we still love you guys so much but pls see these points!!
They for sure will apologize directly next show.
Ooooooh if someone I was dating said that about me, they would be immediately dumped. End of story. You never, ever speak like that about your partner to anyone, ever. There is no grey area. Bye 👋🏻
Exactly
Right
Right
Nobody cares 😀
@@akshaysingh4082 yet you commented 😀
My biggest annoyance is that Trisha brings up something that legitimately hurt her, she was gaslight by everyone there, and then Moses's response was "oh but SHE slept with 10 people". Falacy! She told you! And Ethan was disgusting. "okay Moses messaging 3(1) girl, but TRISHA? 10 GUYS?" The lying is being overlooked and her honesty is being shamed. Absolutely disgusting.
yesss.
Agree. I think it probably wasnt a smart move for Trish to has this out with a room full of people that are related to Moses :( I was rooting for her the whole time! She's a better women that me, because I would have left Moses on a second!
No one can take her seriously that's why. Shes a troll & expects people to take her seriously. Its her own fault shes NOT a genuine person & whoever doesn't see it is very gullible.
@@babyfirefly118 are you serious...
@@babyfirefly118 I disagree, no matter what was in her past- when a hurt person says they have been hurt, no one can disavow that. There is communication, relationship building, and other tools to understand one another again but by gaslighting and bringing up her past doesn't achieve anything.
rewatching Frenemies for the UMPTENTH TIME… i feel like they would be such good friends now… but some words just cannot be unsaid/unheard😢
Literally!
Hila’s defense for Moses just did not make sense to me. Just because Moses would never say it to her face does not make it any better. If my parts smelled bad I would 10000% percent rather my man let me know than tell someone else. Him telling someone else is an attempt to portray her poorly, him telling her to her face would another be thing. Also the Hinge thing is a red flag!!
@@rory7676 it’s another dating app
Imagine if Ethan said this about Hila:
- Hila cant control her eating
- Hila's 🐈 stank
- Hila uses too much teeth during BJs
(All while they were in the process of trying to buy a house together and conciev baby Theodore!)
I HIGHLY DOUBT Hila would have forgiven Ethan if he got catfished 3x by the same stalker bitch tryna bust a nut in the DMs w strangers on the Internet.
Hila's advice was ASS. It displayed a huge lack of empathy towards Trisha and bias towards Moses. TRASH
BronzeBellaBria I completely agree! They love making trisha feel like she’s crazy for having feelings. Her therapists recommended her to break up with Moses if she wasn’t able to get over him saying her vagina smelled and that she had a problem eating. Funny how after this advice she tried to break up with him and now he’s starting to nut in her. He’s trying to trap her.
> He doesn't actually believe that she smells bad. He was just hurt and said stupid shit. We have definitely seen how vindictive Trisha can be.
> Hinge still shows inactive users
Both these things were sent by an account that wants to sabotage her, so that is more of a red flag to me.
@@Beastofdestruct if Moses said that stuff to be cruel then he is an immature person and they shouldn't be together. You shouldn't be able to say that stuff about your partner so lightly
I swear Ethan JUST shaved his entire face and head and now it’s completely back to normal lol
I was thinking the same thing, his hair grows FAST. No wonder it was no biggie to do something that drastic.
Right!
That was my first thought as I started the video. xD
I was just thinking the same thing!
@@MadameCirce it is been a surprisingly long time since he shaved it and you’ll be surprised how fast hair grows back when you shave your head
Is anyone else really sad and disappointed that hila actually stuck up for Moses? Like I get hes your brother but that was super wrong what he did to trisha...
Nah it’s family, she just doesn’t understand because of that. She means well just isn’t right in this case but it’s completely understandable
@bla bla talking shit and rape are very different situations so it’s not fair to compare those two wth
@@herenkim i agree rape was a leap but the principle is what matters + i see where they're coming from for sure
i don't think she was deffending him, she was just clarifying that it is different to vent something nasty to actually meaning it and saying it to your face, she didn't say that it was right, just that is different...
@@George-vb1yr no, it’s not understandable. I love my brother but I’m not oblivious to know he took advantage of my ex sister in law and didn’t treat her well. Just because someone is family doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge when they do bullshit. What she said didn’t even make sense, the way someone talks about you behind your back is how they REALLY feel about you.
What Moses said about Trisha was unacceptable. I can’t understand why no one was taking her side. Also the shit Hila said really pissed me off
ngl i really dislike hila
Didn't have an opinion on Hila until now. Disgusting person, I thought I hated Ethan at first and it really took me like, a month of warming up before I even enjoyed Ethan.
But now I question his taste. He married Hila? Idk man
@@angelheart457 I loved hila because she reminded me so much of my mom, but now im just like girl what ?? :(
Updated opinion. I'm very on the fence. I've given her the benefit of the doubt and gotten to know her personality a little more (as a viewer dur) and she's very, careful. Tries not to be negative, and I think why I disliked her was because whenever she did say something bad, it was BAD. Because it's most likely been built up from not letting it out.
That being said, I don't think she's a disgusting person. But I'm not a fan of hers.
I don't like that woman's spirit at all.
Yeah Moses is a bit of a strange dude. Not cool everyone trying to play this all down on Trisha, she's right to be upset.
i know right!!
yep what he did was S H A D Y and just plain fucking weird. red flags.
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Hell ya, especially to some random girl on IG..knowing that could all come back. Dude should vent to some friend NOT talk shit to some random hoe
yeah idk why people constantly praise him. Just because he speaks calmly doesn't mean he's a good or better person.
Trisha you really do deserve an apology on this one.. He doesn't have your back if he can easily just bash you to a stranger..dont forgive him for that..
If I was talking to a man and he started to bash his exes genitals I would nope out of that budding relationship so fast. If he'll do it to her, he'll do it to you. Plus, who even wants to hear about someone's ex? TF? Answers to questions I never asked, buddy... He clearly has more growing up to do than they've ever let on. "it was because my feelings were hurt" "it was just retaliation"... That makes it WORSE! WTF? Trisha is RIGHT to feel hurt by that.
I agree. It made me sad when Moses started telling her he wants her get her pregnant because he knows that’s what she wants to hear
Trisha: “No you can’t throw it in my mouth I’m not a dog!”
Also Trisha: 👁👅👁
15:03 I love her
This comment wins
Also trisha: i love being fed like a baby bird 🤣
LMAO
lolol
trish wrapping up the pickle so he didn’t have to touch it just shows how nice she is off screen when she isn’t exaggerating her personality
I usually always agree with ethan and hila, but what moses was doing IS sketchy and trisha can be upset by it. HE is 100% in the wrong and you guys acted very insensitive and rude making trish feel crazy. Her feelings are valid, if hila saw ethan do that she probably would be upset and hurt and the other way around. Disappointed
This is definitely not the worst episode, it's a complete fucking mess and it's beautiful
Matt Groth 12:37😅
That’s what I’m here for. Love the chaotic atmosphere 😂❤️
I wish Ethan would stop saying the episodes are bad. He does that every time. Love this podcast and its chaos.
And the disgusting mess of a cheese fountain as a beautiful centerpiece to match the energy
Agreed!!! A beautiful mess!!!
I’m sorry, is any girl supposed to move past his insulting dms like it’s nothing?????? The gaslighting in this was INSANE.
With the way she acts on a regular basis, and the fact that she had to snoop around his private conversations to see it? _YES._
Men are allowed to have feelings too.
existenceisrelative Where did I say that they’re not? I just didn’t agree with them trying to invalidate her feelings, that’s all.
@@existenceisrelative People don't understand how deeply damaging offhand comments that sometimes people can't get over and its ridiculous to think she shouldn't feel that way
Moses can be taken aback by that but she has every right to not forgive
@@redblackwhitestripes Dude, she had to violate his privacy to encounter that "offhand comment." There are good, entirely selfish reasons why you shouldn't do bad things like violate other's privacy. She found one, and has to live with what she learned.
@@existenceisrelative Feelings, yes, but any man who would say/text an unbelievably disgusting comment like that is a POS without a doubt. No ring in the world would be big enough to forgive that. And if Trisha was not a shallow person who equated love with money, gifts, etc she would have walked away from him. Look at his past-years with not dating? Yet he was on a dating site so he was hooking up only. It tells you the kind of man he really is. That quiet soft spoken nature does not hide the fact that he is a pig. What other man would be happy that his future wife degrades herself for money on multiple platforms? But yet they are still trying to have a baby???? OMG what an absolute train wreck these two are.
Hila saying it wasn't meant for her to read as if that made it ok is actually embarrassing
They got into an argument and he said something he didn’t mean out of anger. They aren’t the most mature people.
@Film him!! you do realize Trisha is not only a toxic partner but an abusive partner? Are you really gonna sit here and defend an abuser?
PU LEEEEEAAASE
No where near as embarrassing as all the shit Trisha has pulled.
@@alana4847 it doesn't matter if he said it out of anger... HE STILL SAID IT. ive had a similar experience with someone who said something terrible to me and justified it by saying they said it out of anger. its a terrible feeling that doesn't deserve justification. nobody's even fucking defending Trisha. we're holding Moses accountable for lying, talking shit behind her back, and then gaslighting her by saying he was hurt. she was hurt too. he's clearly wrong in this situation and if you defend him you're defending a liar and a gaslighter
@@10plate okay she has abused him both physically and mentally as well. Both of them are bad people
I really feel like Trisha had a point. When someone makes a mean comment about an intimate part of you, you aren’t just going to forget about it. It’s so easy to develop an insecurity after that. I feel like that’s a very valid reason to be uncomfortable even if it happened long ago.
agreed
yeah for sure
Yes totally agree!
@Sly News lol
This just proves that Trisha is not always the bad guy. Jason always put her in that light, but I think he was just as toxic. Looks like it might be happening again.
He was SO toxic. Him commenting on her eating habits when he would binge eat and fast lol
He is sooo toxic. Maybe because I’m almost 30 but ain’t none of the “vlog squad” anything special just toxic.
I don’t this Moses is as toxic as Jason. Moses did one bad thing when they were on a break, Jason fat shamed her multiple times it’s different
Its a vicous cycle some people can't seem to escape
@@sammi_sublime very true
I honestly kinda understand Trisha's side regarding the whole thing at the end. I could barely forgive something like that. If they break up I hope she stays for the podcast because her and Ethan's weird chemistry is unmatched.
100%. Even if they weren't dating, those comments are really harsh. I would be uncomfortable if someone said they loved me but said horrible things to strangers about me. I guess it's possible he said really mean things bc he was mad. But i'd constantly be questioning what is the truth... if they secretly think those things or not.
@@shelbee9662 No one is calling her perfect or even good by pointing out where he fucked up. Its just this one time it makes sense why she got mad.
Oh they are definitely both in the wrong for sure I'm not excusing her behaviour, I was just pointing out that her complaint is valid in my opinion, which people usually automatically don't take into account. I don't think his complaints aren't valid I'm just saying I get this time where she's coming from. They both seem to be trying to work it out tho, she's going to therapy and he seem to be willing to have an open discussion and trying to understand her and if it all works out more power to them.
@@mysticalpineapple7263 Yeah. Two wrongs don't make a right. I forgot, did Moses apologize at all? If not, I sympathize with Trisha even more so.
@@pennyt2777 Exactly my point hahaha thank you
dude this episode still gets me so angry trisha had literally every right to be mad and everyone was just gaslighting her into thinking her feelings weren't valid? when ethan said "isn't that sweet" cuz moses admitted to saying that bc he was upset i got especially annoyed cuz what about that is sweet like wtf they were both assholes for that (moses for obviously doing it and ethan for defending him so hard). fucking hila too for her horrible advice god…
I get angry every episode for seeing how Trisha treats Ethan and because of the idiocy she radiates. She’s a terrible person yet everyone decides to ignore that for whatever reason.
@@yacobeinauan9533 dude you need a hobby
Yeah that was a very cruel thing to say. Moses comes accross as a fairly chill and nice dude but based on this and a few other things I get the impression he might be kind of a POS. At one point in a podcast episode from earlier this year Ethan strongly implied that him and Hila would be more likely to forgive Trisha than Moses so he must have done something serious to upset them too.
@@yacobeinauan9533 Chill dude, I like Ethan too and Trisha definitely has some personality traits that make her not a great friend to have but that's a bit hyperbolic
It's wrong to ignore Trisha's issue. By the way, she is right and Hila's take is disturbing - saying something bad about someone behind their back is worse than saying it face-to-face. Moses cannot acknowledge that he knows Trisha is unstable, then enter into a relationship with her, then add to the instability, and wonder why things are bad. Moses is not the "Peace and Love" guy he pretends to be. It's very easy to be a 'Free-Spirit' when you don't care.
Although yes I don't think anyone should ever talk shit behind someones back, it doesn't always mean they ment what they said. It's wrong, but people especially in relationships have bad moments and venting to someone else is one way (although wrong) happens. I think what Hila ment is that Moses doesn't actually think that, and that's why he would never say smth like that straight to Trisha. She's not lifting blame of of him but tells it so that Trisha don't feel as hurt.
@@Steve-lu1nc I absolutely understand. The reason why Hila's take is disturbing to me is that she doesn't differentitate between "Trisha hurt me because she is insensitive" and "Trisha smells". The problem is with regard to the kind of "bad" thing mentioned. Moses acted like a 3-year-old.
@@menandwomenarefromearth okay that I agree with hundred percent, don't really know why would anyone say smth like that. It's a hell of a lot different then venting about being annoyed with your partner
time stamp?
@@mitzara25 1:13:16
moses is disgusting & the way ethan bent over backwards to excuse his behavior was annoying, but the absolute worst part was hila’s comment. i never expected her to say such an ignorant, toxic thing.
SHe was defending her brother but that was such f'in stupid/toxic thing to say for sure.
RIGHT
Y’all are being so dramatic abt this shit it’s rlly not that deep
@Katia same I'm almost done and realizing I never heard her comment too
@@linomade ikr!!!
Ethan is so disconnected from his own fan base sometimes “I think this is the worst episode ever”
He says during clearly the best episode ever
Right?! Like I was living for this
he gets insanely mean comments on instagram, that might get to his head? although comments on youtube have been much more positive these last couple of months.. he just likes self deprecating
@@kindredspirit7 yeah that makes sense
I think you are underestimating the amount of hate he gets I’m sure that makes someone feel like they’re shit
@@kindredspirit7 I am not on Instagram, what are they saying
i’m mad that everyone in the room invalidated trishas incredibly valid feelings
for real.
You should be mad at Trisha invalidating people all the time and offending Jews left right and center.
It’s common knowledge that Trisha was playing a character as seen by her now compared to her then
Trisha’s feelings towards moses actions are so valid. I wish they would have not made excuses for him... What he said was terrible 😕
@Rana Afhami no shes always called out on almost everything as she should be if its not right but a lot of people get a pass for treating her badly just because she reacts without thinking
They just understand the emotional instability of Trisha
@Rana Afhami neither one should get a pass! abuse no matter from who is still wrong
@@kesscheney8489 you’re 100% right.. no matter what it’s still abuse no matter from which side of the relationship
@Rana Afhami You say that on every post. Why do you feel so involve?
Both can have done some bad things. One does not excuse the other. And bejng Nice sometimes does not excuse bad béhavior. Actions do.
Moses is in the wrong, ethan and hila please realize that. She didn’t deserve to be gaslighted and have her feelings belittled. You shouldn’t just give moses the “pass” because he’s family. Please apologize to Trisha.
How did they gaslight her
@@nikki1932 they literally invalidated her feelings to the point where she felt the need to say it was HER fault and that it was on her. thats gaslighting. doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that
@@nikki1932 they don’t recognize her feelings they deny them and tell her what she’s feeling is wrong. Moses was 100 percent in the wrong but since they’re family they’re gonna be on his side
@@tokenofdevotion i’m not talking about people who trisha has had beef with, i’m talking about her significant other talking shit about her behind her back and having his sister justify it by saying “you weren’t meant to see it”. yes everyone has talked shit behind someone’s back, but it’s different when it’s your fucking boyfriend. like what? please explain to me how thats okay, and on top of that having his whole family undermine her feelings and making her blame herself for HIS actions
I feel like Trisha makes Ethan a more compassionate person and Ethan helps Trish to calm down and trust in people more. I actually missed this show the last week!
I did, too. Totally agree.
They bring out the best in each other 😊❤️
I feel like Trisha makes Ethan a more compassionate person and Ethan helps Trish to calm down and trust in people more. I actually missed this show the last week!
@@angiet7380 they sure do 🙏
It makes my fucking blood boil that she is literally expressing to them that he has bashed her behind her back like a snake, talking about her eating disorder, her vaginal health, etc. He is not a good person for that. Why are they not holding him accountable???? If Trish did the EXACT same thing to Moses they would call her crazy once a fucking gain. They are not her friends.
I’m SO GLAD that everyone is agreeing with Trish in the comments. Moses is definitely in the wrong and it must be so difficult for her to get over him saying that behind her back it’s so disrespectful
what did he say? think i missed it.
@@mjacksonisperfect same 😫
Ethan, I love watching you guys eat while you chat!! It’s the best.
And no, it’s not proper to use the Lords name in vain ever. There are so many other words you can say, so why do it? It’s hurtful to hear to those of faith and is considered a sin.
I know! It’s so rude
@@mjacksonisperfect Did you not watch the last 30+ minutes of the podcast? She repeated it several times.
Hila blatantly condoning talking shit behind your partner’s back is so WEIRD, like what are you saying about Ethan 👀
big facts. i love hila but what the f*ck was that?????
Wow, this is GREAT perspective
İkr!!!
I think their angle was like "well he was just venting" -- he vented to a stranger? About her vagina smelling and her eating disorder? Where is his remorse? Why is he so defensive? I felt like Trisha had so little support here it's killing me
at no point in this episode did that cheese ever look appetizing lol
I actually had my hands up over my face blocking the flying cheese!! It was waaaay too thick lol some weird orange sludge
omg ikr.... it looks so disgusting lmaoo. I'm having trouble finishing the episode because of it XD
I love cheese too much, because I wasn't disgusted by the cheese.
Yeah who ever cooked that cheese is dumb af. If the cheese aint runny, it wont drip💀🤣
I was so annoyed every time they would add a smidge of milk like it’s okay to pour it lol
Ok. I literally just commented how sweet Moses was on a newer episode and I wish I could take it back.
What he said was HURTFUL and trying to say “because he said it behind her back and not to her” -doesn’t-make it ok.
When you read or hear something like that said about you, it does stick with you.
I feel for you Trish. Sorry babe.
right?? i thought the same before seeing this. i wish more people knew this :-( she deserves so much better
That’s whatever
I was 100% supportive of Trisha being with Moses, but after this episode.... she needs to kick him to the curb. He's manipulative and sees Trisha as an easy target.
nailed it.
Armchair psychologist pls stfu, I agree what we saw is sketch but we saw basically NOTHING. They have actual lives off camera, we dont have the right to make those judgements
ALSO- if he doesn’t dress up as the grinch during the Christmas episode. I’m gonna be upset .
THIS
Trisha could be Cindy loo who
YES and the other comment saying Trish as Cindy. Amazing.
Kate Hunt YES
Pleaseeee
Ethan isn’t the friend Trisha asked for but is the friend she needed.
I think they are good for each other.
aka a brother lmao
Yes
Seems to be the only real friend she's ever had either. He's good with her, makes me happy she has someone
I love that they pushed through
honestly if my boyfriend said that stuff about me i’d never talk to him again :)
same. fucking disgusting
Said what stuff?????
What happened?
@@evelyn-fw9nu 1:04:36
Trisha when you see this please don’t listen to other people 👎🏼👎🏼
For Moses to say something like that to SOMEONE NOT IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP behind her back is betrayal. It’s so emotionally damaging for someone to comment about her body in an incredibly vulnerable state at sex. It’s so sad that Hila would defend that behavior. I’d rather my sexual partner tell me to my face in a gentle and loving way, than go behind my back and talk about me to someone else.
trisha literally hit moses...
@@CaptainSilverFresh which is equally inexcusable. Tbh the relationship should’ve ended back then 🙄
@Danielle ROESCH I’m referencing the part where he texted another girl on Instagram about Trisha and her body. I’m not sure the time stamp but he said some other not nice things too and Hila defended that behavior by saying it’s better to talk about someone behind their back than to their face
@@icannotdothisagain ugh wth? Why would she say that it is not lmao
Exactly
Trisha is worthy of love, appreciation and healing. She seems like she's working very hard on herself and how she interacts with Ethan and others. I love to see it!
Also- Moses was in the wrong. WAY in the wrong. Very disappointed. I hope Trisha can see her worth in this situation.
You're right. All these comments about moses are right. Except the sad thing is that this will prompt a break up and Ethan and Trisha won't be related. I'm sure frenemies will continue but the dynamic will be different
Hila basically told Trisha "he can say anything about you behind your back and you can't care about it". Moses is doing a ton of gaslighting here. Forgiving does not equal forgetting. He's not validating of her feelings whatsoever. Lots of people have issues moving on from something, but healthy people acknowledge that in their partner and allow them to have those feelings, not hold it against them.
KoiFlow I’m sure he was hitting her, it takes two to tango, you cannot just get in a fist fight with one person, that doesn’t even make sense.
@@smac5869 wtf are you saying. ofc one person can get hit and the other doesn’t. if he hit her i’m sure it would’ve come out when she hit him
That’s not what Hila said. Hila’s point was that because of the fact that you don’t think the other person will see it, people say shit they don’t mean. If he really meant it and wanted to hurt her he would’ve just said it to her face. I’m sure everyone has said stuff that they felt in the moment and regretted later
Helen Kim ya exactly, everyone makes mistakes, and if he says he loves her then they should just put the mistakes behind them and just work in being more loving instead of fault finding, I hope he apologizes for what he said and then it is easier to forgive and forget.
@bla bla No, I think he’s obviously in the wrong and Trisha should care about what he says. But that wasn’t Hilas point.
why is everyone gaslighting trish, moses needs to take accountability for his actions they keep telling her to get over it when they know her background, she has every right to be upset
Why was the cheese fountain part so wholesome? They were like kids having fun
almost like it was 2 fat kids destroying a fondue tower...
It was really gross and they were eating steak with there hands
Its a chocolate fountain thats why it malfunctioned
Hila justified her brother’s words by saying that ”they weren't meant for you to see”. I get that she is protecting her brother, but I also understand why Trisha is hurt by it. I wouldn't like it if my significant other started talking shit about me behind my back.
Moses didn’t public shame her, Trisha is notorious for public shaming her significant others. By even talking about his private DMs in public is an act of betrayal
I’d be worried about what Hila says when she’s not around, seems like Hila can’t say some things to her face 😉
It was disturbing
Hila said that because they were private DMs that were sent before they were officially dating. I do think what Moses said was really fucked up, but I don’t think it would be honest to say that he was Trisha’s “significant other” at the time. They specifically stated in the podcast that they were not together when the messages were sent.
Trisha deserves someone that respects the mental health conditions she has to live with. Moses seems to have a hard time grasping the differences between the two of them. Moses and Hila are very “chill” people, and I can understand why they don’t grasp the way that Trisha’s thought processes work. Not everyone is perfect.
They weren’t dating at the time. It wasn’t her significant other
Ethan PLEASE be the Grinch if Trish is Cindy Lou Who for Christmas
lol immediately what came to my mind!
Yes!
YES
Yesss!!! No they need to do several costumes
100%
I really can't look at Hila the same way after that ridiculous and hurtful statement.
What did she say
@@juliettes6226 she gaslit trisha basically saying she wasn’t supposed to see that moses said the fked up stuff behind her back /:
I can't believe what i am watching, everyone is defending Moses?? What he said about Trisha is disgusting!
I hope Trisha notices how most people are on her side, not Moses's. I wish Hila and Ethan would realize how weird/creepy/disgusting Moses seems in this. No one should say those kind of things about their partner. To their face or to strangers! Seems pretty gaslighting to blame her... I wish Trisha well
YESSSSSS I hope Trish sees this!! I love her so much, and her feelings are valid.
Only knowing her from her antics when she first started coming around, I figured Trisha was the obvious predator using Moses as a ins to disrupt Ethan and Hilas life out of spite, and Moses was just some poor sucker in the middle. I stopped watching H3 because it just seemed so gross and deliberate on everybody’s part. Now, I think Moses was the one scheming the whole time and Trisha is the one being duped.
I kinda get what Trisha is saying about Moses’ past dm’s coming out still. He can’t expect her not to react to it. If he said shitty stuff about her in the past, and it’s STILL coming out... like damn. The least he could do is show everything and talk through it. That way everything is on the table. If past info keeps coming out, it’s just gonna keep weighing the relationship down.
I'm not entirely on Trishas side, but why would he say stuff like that
I agree, Even if you cheat on your partner it’s always better for them to hear it from you than someone else.
Right
Also the DMs are coming out in real time. Even if they’re old, it’s the first time she’s seeing them and they feel new. Plus she struggles with bpd and thats literally a weakness of the disorder is obsessing over stuff and not letting it go. As she said it’s not about Moses or even what he said, it’s her struggling with her inability to let go. We are all watching her struggle with her mental health.
While I think Moses could better accommodate her disorder by readily validating her because that’s what she needs in order to maintain her inner harmony, it probably is exhausting to consistently validate, esp coming from a culture where that’s not the norm
the fact that Moses never took accountability for what he did behind Trisha’s back is fucking disgusting
TRISHA HE DOESN'T DESERVE YOU RUN GIRL
and the way everyone else was backing up moses.....yikes
she is too powerful for men
@@exenevandenberg3423 Almost seems like the opposite is true
Did you forget about the fact that she physically abused him? Lmao if anything he should away,
The thing is, when someone is denying your experience you can’t move past it. If Moses just admitted what he did/said was wrong, Trisha would be able to move on. Denying it makes Trisha feel crazy, and makes her feel like her experience isn’t valid ...
exactly! specially because if no one is trying to acknowledge or understand it, how on earth is she going to trust that it's going to change?
YESSS OMG PREACH being gaslight makes you hold on to the anger & pain for so much longer because there’s not much closure
YES YES YES YES, AMAZING WORDS
On an older H3 podcast, Hila couldn't handle a hypothetical scenario in which Ethan might receive a flirty message and he would click on the girl's instagram to see what she looked like. I don't think Hila would be so chill if Ethan spoke to a girl behind her back saying the things Moses did. Trish was valid here.
i was thinking this too!!!!!!!
right!!
Yuuuuuppp very true. I don’t think anyone would be okay with a scenario like that. Very fishy.
Yeeees! She can’t handle him even seeing an IG model profile imagine if he said the same about her to someone else? She shouldn’t feel bad tho because SHE WASNT MEANT TO SEE IT. That double standard because it’s her brother
Exactly, and mosses saying that stuff behind her back just cuz he was hurt still doesnt make it okay
hila’a advice was probably the worst i’ve ever heard
Congratulations, not everyone knows the answer to all your problems
hila is such an L sometimes
@@neat24majority of the time. Dont understand the hype
@@neat24I love Hila. Just bc she doesn’t know the answer to every question doesn’t make her an L. It makes her human.
was this about her saying “u shouldn’t hear the stuff said about u behind ur back” ?? she’s so right about that. its not meant for you to hear and that’s okay!
I would buy a frenemies hoodie easily. Half black, half pink. And if this podcast dies I would still be ok with that because the word frenemies is an aesthetically pleasing word to me
Also the colors are kind of iconic, I would so be down for a hoodie.
Yess
Yes please! 💖🖤
Fren ⚫️ EMIES 💖
I'd love Ethan as Uncle Fester on the black half with Trisha walking off in the pink half
Trisha is actually growing on me. It seems like she’s battling those “demons”.
This is my favorite episode by far hands down lol
I now love Trish.
For now yeah.... Let's see what next week brings
@Marina Prp uh?
@Marina Prp wait what'd he do???
I'm with Trisha on this one. It's so weird to talk trash about your significant other to strangers, even if you don't mean it, you just don't do that. Especially that you're not like a couple of unknown people and that conversation is gonna disappear and never come up again. Trisha is a famous personality and a chat with her boyfriend saying shit like that about her is definitely gonna circulate online. I know Moses loves her but he should know better.
I agree, I always find that when people talk about their significant others or supposed friends behind their back, it says more about them than the person they're bitching about. Maybe if it's "hey this one off situation happened and I'm telling you about it because I don't know what to do / don't know if my reaction was right" but that's it, and never on a public platform or to strangers who might share private info. It's just really gross to me.
Does Moses really love her?...Thats a fucked up way to show it
THIS! it seemed like it was much deeper too than just her smelling bad. like her eating habits, her being obsessive, none of that is nice to say about your significant other and it makes me really sad that she’s dealing with that. it’s gonna be extremely hard to let go because she probably thinks he’ll just do it again if they break up again. it’s just a shitty situation & he should’ve known better since she’s a public figure :(
i 100% agree i get if they broke up badly and he said that but just because you were hurt u don’t go behind someone back and say that
@@Shaykre19 at least I'm assuming he does he just fucked up way bad in this one so I understand why she finds it hard to let go
If they came out with frenemies merch in 2023 I’d still buy it 😂
You can still buy the merch they initially released back in 2021 on third party sites but it's hard to find and quite expensive. Used I think you can get the hoodies for like $200. Would have been nice to have bought it at the time given how much they have appreciated lol
People are so quick to hate on trisha, even when she's being fully valid
Have you seen this comment section
Most of the time she says dumb stuff though if we are keeping it real
I was really hoping that Hila was going to be on Trisha’s side when she chimed in. I don’t care if he was my brother I would tell Moses that he shouldn’t have said that, it’s pathetic and disrespectful. They were all gaslighting Trisha, I felt like I wanted to jump in and defend her. Moses is giving me major red flags. And we all know Trisha isn’t a saint either but now I’m starting to think Moses doesn’t really love her.
@Yes omgggg yessss when he invites those onlyfan girls he’s always asking weird questions and asking to see there stuff like it’s so suspicious...
Yeah sounds like Hila lost her cool bc Trisha was exposing and embarrassing Moses (but she was telling facts)...and she was using her respectability powers to try to stop it and shut Trish up. She was probably triggered by all the crazy shit Trish says about her family and responded reactively. I bet after cooling down and processing she could see the error in her reaction. Gosh I’m sooooo curious about wtf Moses’ deal is and the dynamic he has w/Hila and their family. Is he like the psycho fuck up sibling that Hila knows is toxic?? Has he done fucked up shit in the past?? Is he just an enabler or a narcissist??
@@DPRNDY at 1:13:25
So, humiliation is called trolling now? Gaslighting Trisha while pretending to be enlightened
THIS
THIS
Yea damn...this was hard to watch.
I hate how ethen turned on her and said YOU should forgive him thats your problem wow
EXACTLY
Just here to relive frenemies 😭 before it all turned sour.
I actually felt really bad for Trisha when she was talking about the things Moses said about her. That was terrible and he doesn't even seem to feel bad very about it. This is a new side of both of them.
@Marina Prp so u know about the one dude who is never on camera now?
@Dcvbkyrsscbgdsxcgf exactly
I won't pick a side, but you are. The relationship is toxic, not one side. He puts her down, she accuses him of statutory rape. It's definitely not a one-side issue. They're clearly terrible for each other and need to break up.
@@Nathan-dt2tu yes, or get a couples therapist
honestyly its so clear to me she has intense ass BPD, so do I so like, lol i really see my feelings reflected in her. honestly her feelings about it have to be so complex and confusing. just the biggest weight of a feeling it seems the way she talks about it
I feel like trisha knows how to deal with ethan way better than she did at the beginning of the show. I love how they handle each other now!
Yes & vice versa! Like Ethan would have made fun of Trisha for continuing to eat the steak after the bit was done, now he's like 'it's ok u can finish' 💜
@@Drea_A seems like Dr. Drew really hit the spot
Trisha wearing her depression is such a mood.
Arielle Lillian wow, true! That does show Grace! 😍 I was hypnotized by the look
She’s dressed as Moira Rose-
@@ayeshanicoochi3094 yeah aka the queen of glamorous depression
@@ayeshanicoochi3094 art is subjective ok, let us make it poetic if we want to 😌
She’s dressed as Moira from schitts creek
part of me has never left this era
It's heartbreaking how excited Trisha was when Hila tried to intervene because she thought she will validate her emotions.
That part made me extremely uncomfortable. I’m so disappointed in Hila, I thought she would do the right thing. 💔
Also really disappointed in hila. Nothing worse than a female who already knows the struggle of being invalidated go on to invalidate another female! She should know better!
Ikr, I was excited too and then she made that dumb comment.
She expected girls to support her, it's heartbreaking that hila sided with him
I could see the disappointment in her face, especially after she's telling everyone to be quiet and wanna hear hilla's opinion.
I get that it's her brother, but she doesn't even trying to be neutral and completely blame trish for finding out that moses talk shit behind her back.
Girl...imagine if ethan did the same thing and talk about your pussy to instagram model in DM.
I normally side with Hila but her saying "sometimes people say things behind your back because they dont intend for you to hear it" was so wrong. Also Moses excuse of "I have no idea why my Hinge profile is active" doesnt hold up at all
Yeah the fact that hes been catfished 3 times since theyve started dating, has an apparently active hinge profile and then locked her out of his IG account doesn't really bode well. They act like Trisha is crazy for being upset. I expected more from Hila's female perspective. It's reasonable to be uncomfortable sleeping with someone who body shamed you
@@heatherfoster2752 could not have said it better myself.
If my bf said about me what Moses said about Trish (to another girl!!!) I would not sleep with him again. And then he tried to say he was trolling because he was hurt... I would understand that if they were both 15 but that is so unacceptable from an adult who plans to buy a house with her and even has the nerve to try to knock her up after this.
They're framing it like Trish is immature and unreasonable, when infact Moses' behaviour is even beyond that.
I really hoped this was gonna work out, too.
@@Threecharacterslong That's why the dude is in his 40's and not married. And i've said this before, " no dude that respects himself would be with someone like Trisha." And now that those DM's have come out we can see that both people are toxic and can't be in a healthy relationship.
@@deadlyvixen yeah I can see what you mean. I always thought there was something off about Moses with his willingness to date her despite everything she said about his family. Its a shame though because shes clearly trying to get better and she looks to be making progress. I think Trish is learning to respect herself but Moses wont catch up. Its going to be a painful learning lesson.
Yeah I can’t believe she said that
Moses comments about Trisha are disgusting wether she was meant to be see them or not. If you actually loved someone you wouldn’t say it in the first place. No one even had her back!!disappointing to see everyone backing Moses when he’s clearly in a wrong.
FRR
@@PotatoMunch well if dating was a possibility then he shouldn’t of said those things. You don’t say horrible things about someone who you’re going to date do you? So why is he an exception? He’s clearly in the wrong.
@@PotatoMunch but she’s open about it , Moses hid it from her knowing it’d upset her. Why does it matter if she slept with ten guys or one, she was honest about it and I’m sure she feels guilty but Moses doesn’t even feel mildly guilty about the things he said. She said herself that’s it’s changed their relationship forever and I don’t know your gender but as a cis girl myself comments like that would destroy me to the core and I know if I found my boyfriend said those things about me I’d seriously consider leaving him. She was open, she was always happily open. He hid it, knowing it’d hurt her.
@@PotatoMunch Don't say you're sure he regrets it when he isn't even man enough to apologise for it and give a promise that it will never happen again.
I agree
5:25 As someone who's struggled with anorexia and body dysmorphia for over 7 years (currently recovering and regaining weight) bro I actually laughed my ass off at Ethan "trigger warning to anorexic people we're going to be eating a mukbang today" 😂
did u watch mukbangs while struggling with it too bc thats what im doing rn 😭
@mothmans left wing ok like it does help though it's fun
@@devlynnred2003 I don't like mukbangs because I'm neurodivergent and the smacking drives me nuts but I did/do watch vlogs where they go to restraunts or food trucks and show us their food or take a couple bites to "rate" it or even eat it as long as it was quiet! It helped me get an appetite looking at delicious foods and watching them eat would for some reason make me want to eat too! Now that I get apetites more (which I've improved greatly since I first made this comment) watching any video while eating helps me even if it's not food related because I don't focus on the food too much, I don't overthink, and it's comforting especially because I don't feel the pressure I feel when eating with real people!
I'm sorry Hila... I like you as a person and Teddy Fresh is, well, fresh, but that "advice" was awful. What you are saying is basically "It's not their fault for being sneaky and disrespectful behind your back. It's YOUR fault for finding out stuff you were not supposed to find out!" Like, girl...
Exactly. And let's be real, if the same situation played out with Ethan and Hila... well, you can bet Hila wouldn't be singing the same tune. Hell, if anyone asked Ethan if he would do what Moses did, he would almost certainly say no because obviously it's a shitty thing to do????
I gotta agree with this comment, she had an interesting perspective but at the same time going behind someone's back even if you're hurt is never defensible
Yeah that was fucked up I was like wait what lmao
Can someone give me a time stamp? I don’t know what you’re referring to
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Trisha is right though, she isn’t self-sabotaging, he is feeding her insecurities, he didn’t tell her that he thought her vagina smelled, he told someone else, so why would she feel confident that he would tell her if it smelled again? He would just think it to himself and that’s more scary in a way
Literally. Never thought I'd agree this much with Trisha
She also talked about how he made comments about how he doesn't like periods and doesn't the smell/taste of a woman until she's been off her period for several days. I think this is the "smell" he's referring to. So boys out there - have some empathy and keep in mind it takes a couple days for the ph to get back to normal after a woman has had her period.
@@katherines6322 lol where are we? In the 50's were girls had to hide because their periods made them "dirty" ...I understand if you don't want to be eating out a bloody coochie,but you don't have to treat your girlfriend like shit just because of something she can't control...thay behaviour is fucking creepy
Yikes! the fact that Moses "Vents" like that about her to a stranger is insane to me. Trisha has every right to be upset. If she can't let the messages go maybe she should let the relationship go..
I’m wondering if Moses was a huge factor in things falling apart. He seems to be ok with saying things behind her back and spreading misinformation and bad mouthing his family to Trish.
Oh most def. I think he “weaponized” Trisha against them
something is off about moses. I feel like he's using trish for money or a boost of internet fame and in turn revenue towards his own line of work bc she did say she got him a laptop iphone etc. I do NOT understand why ethan defended moses of being on hinge by saying moses said he loves her. That doesn't delete a recently active dating app account..???? Like I get Ethan doesn't wanna fall out with trish again so he's being extra cautious but wtf was all that? And what was that "advice" from Hila? Trish was valid he's literally on dating apps, talking about her behind her back (which is ok in hila's eyes if she just doesnt know), and entertaining random people while being with her. Trish isn't gonna get past it bc hes saying he didnt then admitting it when there's proof and an audience. I criticize trish a lot but Moses isn't helping her issues. He's just adding fire.
yeah.. definitely super shady and I wish they didn't defend moses so much, I would hold on to those things if I were in that situation and I don't consider myself "crazy". that's a pretty normal reaction to some consistently shady behavior
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Honestly, there's so much that she does behind the scene. Maybe he can't handle her moods and psych issues. We don't know it all. She wanted to keep his beating secret. But airs out him and other conversation. She also has sex with other ppl while in a relationship with Moses. There's more to it.
Trish gets everyone those kind of gifts though. She got Jason a laptop too, it's just her nature to spoil people because she spoils herself with expensive stuff
hey man. all of them are all in kahoots about how they all can earn the most money. its all a money grab. its actually really smart. it gets people talking just like this, but on blogs or by making a video about it. more clicks for their names
Trishas social media and Onlyfans info should be in the description too Dan! She’s half of the podcast, not a guest.
I agree! They seem to high key hate her guts ... they seem shady shade
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agree
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I don’t think they can link onlyfans on RUclips
Not gonna lie the stuff Moses did was making me anxious and sending all kinds of alarms to even me and I’m not the one in the relationship. As someone who has been cheated on I get her concern on this one
Yeah I totally agree. Especially dissing her to random people.
Anyone else felt like Trisha was flirting with Ethan hard this episode? Then the whole, "oh hi Hila, you're here" caught her completely off guard. Lmao!