Cheese Mukbang Disaster - Frenemies #9
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Ugh well there goes me thinking Moses was a good guy. The comment he made about her vag is terrible and extremely hurtful to a woman. Sending a hug ur way Trish.
@Sarah Plummer agreed! This episode definitely has changed my opinion of Moses. Him dm-ing other girls while they’re on a “break” is one thing, but the comments he made about her when he didn’t think she would see it were really harsh. At this point I feel like those comments are truly how he feels about her, or at the very least felt about her. But to spend all that time with her in the beginning to come out of it saying those hurtful things just makes him seem really manipulative.
@Sarah Plummer exactly... they tried to make it look better by saying he doesnt really think that and that he was hurt. But that's so childish like he was upset and started shit talking her about private embarradsing shit to a stranger???? thats a grown adult and that actitud is extremely inmature and unatractive
Where did he say something rude about her? I’m having trouble watching this episode because it’s so gross lol
@@battyboo3732 around the 50 min mark
Im trying to watch this but was so confused at first about everyone commenting about Moses being bad to Trisha ...
Trisha is right about this situation. DO NOT DEGRADE YOUR WOMAN to other WOMEN or ANYONE PERIOD. Venting is one thing but he was clearly trying to embarrass her. If she does smell that is something he should talk to her about it no one else HE IS HONEST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE so the fact he went to tell someone she smells was 100% malicious.
I think I would have a panic attack if I found a message like that to a girl from my boyfriend :(
They both said she don’t smell on the show, he said that because he’s nasty.
I mean I’ve been getting a really bad shady vibe lately from Moses . At first I thought he was amazing for Trisha but now idk, and his family seems super toxic especially after the last couple of Podcasts with Ethan... Now I don’t know if these are my own mental illness issues being projected onto her situation but I hope she stays safe and protects her mental health❤️
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’ve dumped a guy for just talking to a girl i use to be friends with. Knowing the girl in the DMs was a stalking troll makes it feel like betrayal. Now she just has one up on Trisha, plus Trisha will never know if he actually meant it or not.
it’s been 2 years and i would still buy a Frenemies hoodie
Saaaame
Definitely need a new merch drop
I'm so glad I bought one 😩😩 The only merch I have ever bought and the only merch I ever will.
Watching for the first time. Two years late lol. Wish I had some merch
Ugh so sad I didn’t buy one! I saw someone selling one for like $300 lol
My ex told his friend something personal about me that I was super insecure about. It’s been 9 years and I still am so self conscious and think about it! I will never forget it. I agree with Trish on this, that’s super messed up!
oh girl i am SUPER sorry for you :(( i hope you get better, you don't deserve that at all!
Your ex is an ex for a reason babe. I hope you’ve healed ♥️
what did he say ? :(
yea idk why my man feels like he can share rly personal stuff abt me to his friends n family
if Moses was so "ego-less" and "spiritual", he would admit that the texts to the chick was wrong, hurtful and suspicious. like why cant he just admit it? its so weird how hes trying to deny it and push it away when thats clearly what is preventing Trisha from moving on from it. he cant seem to admit any of his faults, while Trisha is extremely honest. I'm sad to see my girl like this.
I don't buy into this "spiritual" facade
She clearly wants him to admit that it was wrong but he keeps being philosophical about it. Just admit the messages were wrong!
It's because people who have a "cult-leader mentality" never admit they are wrong. Look up any cult leader. I'm calling it now- Moses wants to start some weird cult in a pool or bath house or something. Dude is bogus.
@@rv8461 He? A leader? lmfao
I mean I’ve been getting a really bad shady vibe lately from Moses . At first I thought he was amazing for Trisha but now idk, and his family seems super toxic especially after the last couple of Podcasts with Ethan... Now I don’t know if these are my own mental illness issues being projected onto her situation but I hope she stays safe and protects her mental health❤️
It is kind of annoying that Moses won’t admit that he hits on girls. Trisha is honest about her sexual past & it’s the most irritating thing that he says “I was trolling” 🤮
Also he mumbled something on here about sleeping with only one other woman? Did anyone else hear that?while they were on a break? Like who’s that woman then?
You got all that from an episode? Kinda shitty to make negative assumptions on a person jesus.
@@justinchan4203 those were things he said himself on the podcast
Trisha literally does only fans for a living she shouldn’t get so jealous
Kalani moore if that’s true then why doesn’t that Moses guy just open up to her? Is she jealous or angry because he’s being deceptive to her? Who knows
If my partner told me he doesn’t want to have sex with me and that I smell bad, behind my back, I’d absolutely break up with him that is so messed up dude
just bc he’s calmer doesn’t mean he’s right. “if you love someone, you’ll forgive them” is straight up manipulation. some things are just harder to forgive and let go, ESPECIALLY an offense as great as that one. every time she brings it up, moses should apologize instead of getting defensive. admit he was in the wrong and work from there. it works both ways, too, if moses brings up something trisha did to him that hurt him, trisha should apologize. if you see your s/o hurting over something you did, no matter how long ago it was, your #1 priority should be to make them feel better, not gaslight them for feeling that way. you can’t expect someone to move on from something so hurtful and then get mad when they bring it up again
Moses talking talking trash about Trisha behind her back to a stranger is a big red flag. I feel really bad for Trish..
I want to hug Trish! She's totally valid! Trish do whatever makes you happy... But get an ironclad prenup, girl.
aza B i
@englishrain what happened ?
Silveryn how do you know he wasn’t hitting her? So many assumptions on here.
@Silveryn did you miss the episode where they literally all gave her shit and she cried about how much she regretted it....? So moses never gets to be held accountable for anything because of that? Your pulling the same shit moses did 'well you did something too so I don't have to own up to anything'.
Just because trish has mental illness doesn’t mean she’s always overreacting, how hard would it be for moses to apologize?😕 I hope trish doesn’t doubt her judgement here
Trish Paytas literally physically assaulted Moses last month
Here here
I can’t stand when people just assume because you have mental health problems that you can’t ever behave like someone without those problems. It’s so disappointing.
@@Stefanifaith did you even listen to the story
Agreed!!
“Frenemies hoodie but the shows over”
Ooof that psychic moment
That’s exactly what I was thinking lmao
I've been watching all the old episodes and they really do a good job of predicting their demise in the first few and this one.
Omg
literally the entire room was going against Trish and she stood her ground and I’m so proud of her for that. She was 100% valid for feeling how she did.
hila is such an L sometimes
Sometimes? @@neat24
I feel so sorry for Trisha in this, the stuff Moses said is horrible and a comment like that will obviously stick in her mind it would for anyone. Moses also seems very defensive he needs to apologise sincerely.
He will never apologize, I knew a guy like him once and he was all about himself.
@@smac5869 He's so fucking weird I dunno
When did he say something
New account Who’s bish just like your attracted to comments here.
New account Who’s bish yours and your name is lacking,
if trish does Cindy Lou Who on christmas, ethan NEEDS to be the Grinch. no questions asked.
YES
omg yesssssss
If he’s not I’ll be so upset
That was my first thought 😂
YESSSSSSSS
rewatching Frenemies for the UMPTENTH TIME… i feel like they would be such good friends now… but some words just cannot be unsaid/unheard😢
Literally!
dude this episode still gets me so angry trisha had literally every right to be mad and everyone was just gaslighting her into thinking her feelings weren't valid? when ethan said "isn't that sweet" cuz moses admitted to saying that bc he was upset i got especially annoyed cuz what about that is sweet like wtf they were both assholes for that (moses for obviously doing it and ethan for defending him so hard). fucking hila too for her horrible advice god…
I get angry every episode for seeing how Trisha treats Ethan and because of the idiocy she radiates. She’s a terrible person yet everyone decides to ignore that for whatever reason.
@@yacobeinauan9533 dude you need a hobby
Yeah that was a very cruel thing to say. Moses comes accross as a fairly chill and nice dude but based on this and a few other things I get the impression he might be kind of a POS. At one point in a podcast episode from earlier this year Ethan strongly implied that him and Hila would be more likely to forgive Trisha than Moses so he must have done something serious to upset them too.
@@yacobeinauan9533 Chill dude, I like Ethan too and Trisha definitely has some personality traits that make her not a great friend to have but that's a bit hyperbolic
Hila blatantly condoning talking shit behind your partner’s back is so WEIRD, like what are you saying about Ethan 👀
big facts. i love hila but what the f*ck was that?????
Wow, this is GREAT perspective
İkr!!!
I think their angle was like "well he was just venting" -- he vented to a stranger? About her vagina smelling and her eating disorder? Where is his remorse? Why is he so defensive? I felt like Trisha had so little support here it's killing me
The thing he dmed another girl even hurt my feelings for Trisha... you can’t get over that kind of stuff easily and I wish they wouldn’t excuse it
Right? Wtf. I just broke up with my partner is SEVEN YEARS for this. Because I know I'm never gonna be able to salvage any trust from it.
i totally understand that she wouldnt be able to forget it lol
i would break up the minute I discovered that.
I agree!! People are so quick to jump to call trisha crazy but at the end of the day she's a human being too. If any of these things happened to anyone else nobody would question their feelings about it.
I can't wait to understand what the hell this is about lol
Hila saying it wasn't meant for her to read as if that made it ok is actually embarrassing
They got into an argument and he said something he didn’t mean out of anger. They aren’t the most mature people.
@Film him!! you do realize Trisha is not only a toxic partner but an abusive partner? Are you really gonna sit here and defend an abuser?
PU LEEEEEAAASE
No where near as embarrassing as all the shit Trisha has pulled.
@@alana4847 it doesn't matter if he said it out of anger... HE STILL SAID IT. ive had a similar experience with someone who said something terrible to me and justified it by saying they said it out of anger. its a terrible feeling that doesn't deserve justification. nobody's even fucking defending Trisha. we're holding Moses accountable for lying, talking shit behind her back, and then gaslighting her by saying he was hurt. she was hurt too. he's clearly wrong in this situation and if you defend him you're defending a liar and a gaslighter
@@10plate okay she has abused him both physically and mentally as well. Both of them are bad people
What Moses said about Trisha was unacceptable. I can’t understand why no one was taking her side. Also the shit Hila said really pissed me off
ngl i really dislike hila
Didn't have an opinion on Hila until now. Disgusting person, I thought I hated Ethan at first and it really took me like, a month of warming up before I even enjoyed Ethan.
But now I question his taste. He married Hila? Idk man
@@angelheart457 I loved hila because she reminded me so much of my mom, but now im just like girl what ?? :(
Updated opinion. I'm very on the fence. I've given her the benefit of the doubt and gotten to know her personality a little more (as a viewer dur) and she's very, careful. Tries not to be negative, and I think why I disliked her was because whenever she did say something bad, it was BAD. Because it's most likely been built up from not letting it out.
That being said, I don't think she's a disgusting person. But I'm not a fan of hers.
I don't like that woman's spirit at all.
Petition for Trisha to keep wearing costumes for every episode
like the true moira rose
seriously though 🥺🤤😍
It’s really visually entertaining
Trisha is a costume in herself
I disagree Trisha should totally keep wearing costumes, I think it's cool
Trisha was saying she’d quit the podcast if they broke up and expected that Ethan would not allow her on the podcast if they did break up, because she expected it would be the same as her Jason break up where the vlog squad completely cut her off. Which is sad. I hope this never ends. 😢
It's also true that she made multiple videos about how the vlog squad is horrible, pedophiles ect. before the break up
@@tortelliniinbrododigiuggio4462 well 2 of them are
@@tortelliniinbrododigiuggio4462 okay but like... she wasnt lyin tho
@@LluviaAva I know one of them. who's the other?
@@DanSwerdlove-wb5jl ikr, Trisha defending Evan Francisco and saying she would’ve hung out with him more if the internet didn’t expose him.
trish wrapping up the pickle so he didn’t have to touch it just shows how nice she is off screen when she isn’t exaggerating her personality
If they came out with frenemies merch in 2023 I’d still buy it 😂
You can still buy the merch they initially released back in 2021 on third party sites but it's hard to find and quite expensive. Used I think you can get the hoodies for like $200. Would have been nice to have bought it at the time given how much they have appreciated lol
My biggest annoyance is that Trisha brings up something that legitimately hurt her, she was gaslight by everyone there, and then Moses's response was "oh but SHE slept with 10 people". Falacy! She told you! And Ethan was disgusting. "okay Moses messaging 3(1) girl, but TRISHA? 10 GUYS?" The lying is being overlooked and her honesty is being shamed. Absolutely disgusting.
yesss.
Agree. I think it probably wasnt a smart move for Trish to has this out with a room full of people that are related to Moses :( I was rooting for her the whole time! She's a better women that me, because I would have left Moses on a second!
No one can take her seriously that's why. Shes a troll & expects people to take her seriously. Its her own fault shes NOT a genuine person & whoever doesn't see it is very gullible.
@@babyfirefly118 are you serious...
@@babyfirefly118 I disagree, no matter what was in her past- when a hurt person says they have been hurt, no one can disavow that. There is communication, relationship building, and other tools to understand one another again but by gaslighting and bringing up her past doesn't achieve anything.
This just proves that Trisha is not always the bad guy. Jason always put her in that light, but I think he was just as toxic. Looks like it might be happening again.
He was SO toxic. Him commenting on her eating habits when he would binge eat and fast lol
He is sooo toxic. Maybe because I’m almost 30 but ain’t none of the “vlog squad” anything special just toxic.
I don’t this Moses is as toxic as Jason. Moses did one bad thing when they were on a break, Jason fat shamed her multiple times it’s different
Its a vicous cycle some people can't seem to escape
@@sammi_sublime very true
i’m mad that everyone in the room invalidated trishas incredibly valid feelings
for real.
You should be mad at Trisha invalidating people all the time and offending Jews left right and center.
It’s common knowledge that Trisha was playing a character as seen by her now compared to her then
honestly if my boyfriend said that stuff about me i’d never talk to him again :)
same. fucking disgusting
Said what stuff?????
For real!
What happened?
@@evelyn-fw9nu 1:04:36
Hila’s defense for Moses just did not make sense to me. Just because Moses would never say it to her face does not make it any better. If my parts smelled bad I would 10000% percent rather my man let me know than tell someone else. Him telling someone else is an attempt to portray her poorly, him telling her to her face would another be thing. Also the Hinge thing is a red flag!!
@@rory7676 it’s another dating app
Imagine if Ethan said this about Hila:
- Hila cant control her eating
- Hila's 🐈 stank
- Hila uses too much teeth during BJs
(All while they were in the process of trying to buy a house together and conciev baby Theodore!)
I HIGHLY DOUBT Hila would have forgiven Ethan if he got catfished 3x by the same stalker bitch tryna bust a nut in the DMs w strangers on the Internet.
Hila's advice was ASS. It displayed a huge lack of empathy towards Trisha and bias towards Moses. TRASH
BronzeBellaBria I completely agree! They love making trisha feel like she’s crazy for having feelings. Her therapists recommended her to break up with Moses if she wasn’t able to get over him saying her vagina smelled and that she had a problem eating. Funny how after this advice she tried to break up with him and now he’s starting to nut in her. He’s trying to trap her.
> He doesn't actually believe that she smells bad. He was just hurt and said stupid shit. We have definitely seen how vindictive Trisha can be.
> Hinge still shows inactive users
Both these things were sent by an account that wants to sabotage her, so that is more of a red flag to me.
@@Beastofdestruct if Moses said that stuff to be cruel then he is an immature person and they shouldn't be together. You shouldn't be able to say that stuff about your partner so lightly
Them having such a deep emotional convo while Trisha has two crows on her head and there is the nasty cheese fountain in the middle is such a funny contrast
IKR ROFLMFAO
Lmfao all i could look at was the fountain when they were talking about her relationship 😂
ikr lol
isnt that like the mood of almost every episode
Part of the absolute greatness of this show. 😅
It makes my fucking blood boil that she is literally expressing to them that he has bashed her behind her back like a snake, talking about her eating disorder, her vaginal health, etc. He is not a good person for that. Why are they not holding him accountable???? If Trish did the EXACT same thing to Moses they would call her crazy once a fucking gain. They are not her friends.
Ok. I literally just commented how sweet Moses was on a newer episode and I wish I could take it back.
What he said was HURTFUL and trying to say “because he said it behind her back and not to her” -doesn’t-make it ok.
When you read or hear something like that said about you, it does stick with you.
I feel for you Trish. Sorry babe.
right?? i thought the same before seeing this. i wish more people knew this :-( she deserves so much better
That’s whatever
PLEASE DON’T CANCEL THIS, it’s the only podcast i’ve ever been able to sit through and enjoy
I agree I look forward every week!
Big same I got the notification at work and was so excited to watch right now finally!
Everytime they upload its like I found a piece of candy
Honestly same here I don’t podcasts and this ones I can sit and watch it all
literally same!! i live for this duo
Trisha saying she missed Ethan is such character development
they really feel like friends now
Well lets wait. Could be that she loses her shit in 20 minutes again
That was really sweet
@@sheabae8315 lmao she could have just meant she's tired, geez
i know right, it makes my heart happy
I’m here 3.5 years after this episode aired and… I still would buy a Frenemies hoodie today 😢
part of me has never left this era
The most disgusting part of this episode is the gaslighting when Trisha brought up the issues in their relationship. The team dismissing Moses’ sketchy behavior is beyond concerning... he needs to own up to his actions, instead of trying to put it back on Trisha. Trisha’s feelings are valid, and you guys ought to apologize for dismissing her so casually. Smh. Disappointed.
100% agree with this.
You need to know that Trisha is toxic too. Remember when she literally beat him up? This is NOT one sided.
@@xsoano8519 It definitely isn't one sided but we've already acknowledged that?? Just because op's comment was talking about Moses's actions doesn't mean they don't know what Trisha's done. There's nothing wrong with putting more of a spotlight on Moses's actions right now because it's already being overlooked! That's a problem.
@@klutzii9137 he said he wrote those messages when he was single? I don’t really understand the problem tbh.
@@xsoano8519 He was trash talking Trisha behind her back to a stranger?? It happened like 3 months ago and they were definitely together during that time, so... But even then like. Not even owning up to the fact that you did trash talk and instead treating it like it was a joke isn't great. Shit talking behind someone's back hurts, and Moses doesn't seem to fully acknowledge how hurtful it was to Trisha. That's not really a great foundation.
I LOVE THAT TRISHA IS WEARING COSTUMES STILL
They should have never stopped!
I legit hope she wears a costume every single time she's on now.
Yaaaas same!! I loved seeing their different costumes each week! Make it a thing!
i love that they never even addressed it lmao
@Jay Slays lmao ethan having a legitimate argument dressed as uncle festher 😂 😂
the fact that Moses never took accountability for what he did behind Trisha’s back is fucking disgusting
5:25 As someone who's struggled with anorexia and body dysmorphia for over 7 years (currently recovering and regaining weight) bro I actually laughed my ass off at Ethan "trigger warning to anorexic people we're going to be eating a mukbang today" 😂
did u watch mukbangs while struggling with it too bc thats what im doing rn 😭
@mothmans left wing ok like it does help though it's fun
@@devlynnred2003 I don't like mukbangs because I'm neurodivergent and the smacking drives me nuts but I did/do watch vlogs where they go to restraunts or food trucks and show us their food or take a couple bites to "rate" it or even eat it as long as it was quiet! It helped me get an appetite looking at delicious foods and watching them eat would for some reason make me want to eat too! Now that I get apetites more (which I've improved greatly since I first made this comment) watching any video while eating helps me even if it's not food related because I don't focus on the food too much, I don't overthink, and it's comforting especially because I don't feel the pressure I feel when eating with real people!
It's wrong to ignore Trisha's issue. By the way, she is right and Hila's take is disturbing - saying something bad about someone behind their back is worse than saying it face-to-face. Moses cannot acknowledge that he knows Trisha is unstable, then enter into a relationship with her, then add to the instability, and wonder why things are bad. Moses is not the "Peace and Love" guy he pretends to be. It's very easy to be a 'Free-Spirit' when you don't care.
Although yes I don't think anyone should ever talk shit behind someones back, it doesn't always mean they ment what they said. It's wrong, but people especially in relationships have bad moments and venting to someone else is one way (although wrong) happens. I think what Hila ment is that Moses doesn't actually think that, and that's why he would never say smth like that straight to Trisha. She's not lifting blame of of him but tells it so that Trisha don't feel as hurt.
@@Steve-lu1nc I absolutely understand. The reason why Hila's take is disturbing to me is that she doesn't differentitate between "Trisha hurt me because she is insensitive" and "Trisha smells". The problem is with regard to the kind of "bad" thing mentioned. Moses acted like a 3-year-old.
@@menandwomenarefromearth okay that I agree with hundred percent, don't really know why would anyone say smth like that. It's a hell of a lot different then venting about being annoyed with your partner
time stamp?
@@mitza420 1:13:16
Yeah Moses is a bit of a strange dude. Not cool everyone trying to play this all down on Trisha, she's right to be upset.
i know right!!
yep what he did was S H A D Y and just plain fucking weird. red flags.
.
Hell ya, especially to some random girl on IG..knowing that could all come back. Dude should vent to some friend NOT talk shit to some random hoe
yeah idk why people constantly praise him. Just because he speaks calmly doesn't mean he's a good or better person.
I really can't look at Hila the same way after that ridiculous and hurtful statement.
What did she say
@@juliettes6226 she gaslit trisha basically saying she wasn’t supposed to see that moses said the fked up stuff behind her back /:
this is my roman empire
Trisha’s feelings towards moses actions are so valid. I wish they would have not made excuses for him... What he said was terrible 😕
@Rana Afhami no shes always called out on almost everything as she should be if its not right but a lot of people get a pass for treating her badly just because she reacts without thinking
They just understand the emotional instability of Trisha
@Rana Afhami neither one should get a pass! abuse no matter from who is still wrong
@@kesscheney8489 you’re 100% right.. no matter what it’s still abuse no matter from which side of the relationship
@Rana Afhami You say that on every post. Why do you feel so involve?
Both can have done some bad things. One does not excuse the other. And bejng Nice sometimes does not excuse bad béhavior. Actions do.
I swear Ethan JUST shaved his entire face and head and now it’s completely back to normal lol
I was thinking the same thing, his hair grows FAST. No wonder it was no biggie to do something that drastic.
Right!
That was my first thought as I started the video. xD
I was just thinking the same thing!
@@MadameCirce it is been a surprisingly long time since he shaved it and you’ll be surprised how fast hair grows back when you shave your head
hila’a advice was probably the worst i’ve ever heard
Congratulations, not everyone knows the answer to all your problems
hila is such an L sometimes
@@neat24majority of the time. Dont understand the hype
@@neat24I love Hila. Just bc she doesn’t know the answer to every question doesn’t make her an L. It makes her human.
was this about her saying “u shouldn’t hear the stuff said about u behind ur back” ?? she’s so right about that. its not meant for you to hear and that’s okay!
Just here to relive frenemies 😭 before it all turned sour.
Moses is COMPLETELY in the wrong. I feel for Trish, man.. Hila, for once, I'm mad at you for what you said. Seriously.
Hila was a snake for what she said I was not expecting that 😳
What did hila say about her? I missed that part, also why do they keep backbiting and saying you were not supposed to hear that tho? If you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all.
For real for real. They’re actual assholes for that.
I think what Hila meant was sometimes you bitch about someone when you're mad but you don't mean what you say. The last thing you'd want is for them to hear it cause you don't actually mean it and you can move on but they won't be able to 🤔
Hila was WAY in the wrong.
they really are siblings. trisha hosts ted talks on how much she hates ethan, but when she doesn't see him for a week she's crying and now they're back eating cheese & steak together 💀❣️
Trisha eating actual fabric is everything 😂😂
why is everyone gaslighting trish, moses needs to take accountability for his actions they keep telling her to get over it when they know her background, she has every right to be upset
Hila's logic is a bit shady, Trisha's right, it hurts more if it's said behind your back than to your face.
she's protecting her bro
I agree
I think Hilda just isn’t open to the fact that her brother is shady.
mmm, i think it's a bit more nuianced. believe me, i'm all about honesty. i try to be honest with myself, others, and i want people to be honest with me. but it's also good ty try and understand other perspectives and other truths. hila didn't say lying or hiding things is right, but she just pointed out that privacy is a thing. of course moses and trish can both do better behaviour wise, but to me the point was more that if moses -did- say something hurtful behind her back, but then things changed and his own opinion changed and now he is treating her well...that's an improvement. trish's whole argument is more what i believe, that at least you should say it to their face. but people work differently and i think it's important to communicate those differences and actually listen. i hope both moses and trish listened to ethan and hila just because of the conversation, just so they could get other viewpoints. just my 2 cents
Shes defending her shady ass brother. If someone does something mean to you dont listen to their families opinions about it. I've seen abusive mens moms defend their sons for being abusive
moses is disgusting & the way ethan bent over backwards to excuse his behavior was annoying, but the absolute worst part was hila’s comment. i never expected her to say such an ignorant, toxic thing.
SHe was defending her brother but that was such f'in stupid/toxic thing to say for sure.
RIGHT
Y’all are being so dramatic abt this shit it’s rlly not that deep
@Katia same I'm almost done and realizing I never heard her comment too
@@linomade ikr!!!
Frenemies is my Roman Empire
Moses creeps me out honestly I feel like he has a secret
Ooooooh if someone I was dating said that about me, they would be immediately dumped. End of story. You never, ever speak like that about your partner to anyone, ever. There is no grey area. Bye 👋🏻
Exactly
Right
Right
Nobody cares 😀
@@akshaysingh4082 yet you commented 😀
Is anyone else really sad and disappointed that hila actually stuck up for Moses? Like I get hes your brother but that was super wrong what he did to trisha...
Nah it’s family, she just doesn’t understand because of that. She means well just isn’t right in this case but it’s completely understandable
@bla bla talking shit and rape are very different situations so it’s not fair to compare those two wth
@@herenkim i agree rape was a leap but the principle is what matters + i see where they're coming from for sure
i don't think she was deffending him, she was just clarifying that it is different to vent something nasty to actually meaning it and saying it to your face, she didn't say that it was right, just that is different...
@@George-vb1yr no, it’s not understandable. I love my brother but I’m not oblivious to know he took advantage of my ex sister in law and didn’t treat her well. Just because someone is family doesn’t mean you can’t acknowledge when they do bullshit. What she said didn’t even make sense, the way someone talks about you behind your back is how they REALLY feel about you.
It's 3 years later, and i would definitely buy a frenemies hoodie
This whole episode predicts the future trish brings up money, their own employees, trish asked for a pink and black teddy fresh hoodie, and Ethan jokes about making the hoodie then the show getting canceled AND TRISH STILL WEARING THE HOODIES EVEN IF THEY HATED ETHAN!!!!!!!!!!
Trisha you really do deserve an apology on this one.. He doesn't have your back if he can easily just bash you to a stranger..dont forgive him for that..
If I was talking to a man and he started to bash his exes genitals I would nope out of that budding relationship so fast. If he'll do it to her, he'll do it to you. Plus, who even wants to hear about someone's ex? TF? Answers to questions I never asked, buddy... He clearly has more growing up to do than they've ever let on. "it was because my feelings were hurt" "it was just retaliation"... That makes it WORSE! WTF? Trisha is RIGHT to feel hurt by that.
I agree. It made me sad when Moses started telling her he wants her get her pregnant because he knows that’s what she wants to hear
Ethan PLEASE be the Grinch if Trish is Cindy Lou Who for Christmas
lol immediately what came to my mind!
Yes!
YES
Yesss!!! No they need to do several costumes
100%
Forgetting and forgiving are two different things. I completely understand that she forgives him, but her not being able to forget is also understandable, because it impacted her sexual relationship with him at that point.
im catching up and I'm shocked how they gaslighted Trish and just congratulated Moses, like wtf???
ALSO- if he doesn’t dress up as the grinch during the Christmas episode. I’m gonna be upset .
THIS
Trisha could be Cindy loo who
YES and the other comment saying Trish as Cindy. Amazing.
Kate Hunt YES
Pleaseeee
I don’t blame Trisha for being upset by those awful things Moses said in DMs .... it kind of shows character
especially when he acts so sweet to her. i would get paranoid too...
Right? And him screaming “she slept with 10 guys blah blah” & if it were Trisha tables would be turned and everyone would freak
this shit reminded me of how i felt when my past bfs said shit about me to their friends. i completely understand her side, and no matter how much i tried to get past it it sat him my head. guys just kinda suck sometimes.
What he said was awful and disgusting, I don't blame her at all either. Seriously, what 40-year old tells an insta-rando that his partner has a 'stinky pussy'??? Him being frustrated at her does not justify this at all, I would expect this kind of behaviour from a sociopathic 14 year old. Moses has given her so many reasons to feel insecure in their relationship and it is not Hila or Ethan's place to tell Trisha to 'get over it' - they are clearly defensive of Moses and attempting to justify his wrongful actions. How would Hila feel if Ethan had said something equally nasty to her during the initial stages of their relationship? Though Trisha certainly has her faults too, Moses needs to be open and transparent if he's going to regain her trust and security in this relationship.
Totally agree! It's so immature and disrespectful and not something I'd expect from a 40 year old man. That would be a deal breaker for me even if it was said a long time ago. I really feel for her :(
Anyone else felt like Trisha was flirting with Ethan hard this episode? Then the whole, "oh hi Hila, you're here" caught her completely off guard. Lmao!
I’m wondering if Moses was a huge factor in things falling apart. He seems to be ok with saying things behind her back and spreading misinformation and bad mouthing his family to Trish.
Oh most def. I think he “weaponized” Trisha against them
That is so messed up of Moses, I would never feel comfortable s*xually with someone after that they said that about me, just low of him
TRISHA HE DOESN'T DESERVE YOU RUN GIRL
and the way everyone else was backing up moses.....yikes
she is too powerful for men
@@exenevandenberg3423 Almost seems like the opposite is true
Did you forget about the fact that she physically abused him? Lmao if anything he should away,
This show had become my security blanket, it pains me that it’s over. These two are pure combusting chemistry.
The way Ethan shoved that banana down his throat, killed me 💀💀💀 he looked so panicked
Trisha: “No you can’t throw it in my mouth I’m not a dog!”
Also Trisha: 👁👅👁
15:03 I love her
This comment wins
Also trisha: i love being fed like a baby bird 🤣
LMAO
lolol
Hila justified her brother’s words by saying that ”they weren't meant for you to see”. I get that she is protecting her brother, but I also understand why Trisha is hurt by it. I wouldn't like it if my significant other started talking shit about me behind my back.
Moses didn’t public shame her, Trisha is notorious for public shaming her significant others. By even talking about his private DMs in public is an act of betrayal
I’d be worried about what Hila says when she’s not around, seems like Hila can’t say some things to her face 😉
It was disturbing
Hila said that because they were private DMs that were sent before they were officially dating. I do think what Moses said was really fucked up, but I don’t think it would be honest to say that he was Trisha’s “significant other” at the time. They specifically stated in the podcast that they were not together when the messages were sent.
Trisha deserves someone that respects the mental health conditions she has to live with. Moses seems to have a hard time grasping the differences between the two of them. Moses and Hila are very “chill” people, and I can understand why they don’t grasp the way that Trisha’s thought processes work. Not everyone is perfect.
They weren’t dating at the time. It wasn’t her significant other
The cheese is a metaphor for this show
Girlll leave him no man should talk to a woman like that whether it's to her face or behind your back.. you deserve better.
So, humiliation is called trolling now? Gaslighting Trisha while pretending to be enlightened
THIS
THIS
Yea damn...this was hard to watch.
I hate how ethen turned on her and said YOU should forgive him thats your problem wow
EXACTLY
Trisha’s feelings about what Moses has said about her behind her back are COMPLETELY VALIDDD. She’s not simply clinging onto the past just to cause conflict, she was hurt by what he said and him being single doesn’t make it right. Moses can’t just expect her to let it go. Sure Moses was hurt but those statements don’t just happen without some truth. He needs to be upfront about all that he’s said behind her back and apologize. They’re a good couple but Moses, please consider her feelings and just be honest.
@Rick Don I can see both sides and I think all around they have a lot of issues, and have both exhibited toxic behavior, i don't think ones necessarily the "bad guy" with one being the "good one" like the internet often has to make things out to be. It's not black and white (and saying this I don't mean to try and soften either issue being discussed, like i'm not trying to say it's okay )
@@cloverneko This ^^^ I think there are many unhealthy actions that each person is taking: Trisha's accusations and Moses' venting to random strangers are both really awful ways to release the pent up frustrations in the relationship. It fucked.
i totally understand why trish is so upset. my boyfriend said that same thing about me out of anger and it has stuck with me ever since. it makes me insecure all together and it really sucks. you CAN forgive but you most definitely CANT forget
i get it, my ex made shitty “observations” abt my body then told everyone i was frigid. his comments have stayed w me for the past four years. i could never be with someone who made me feel anything less than beautiful now
Nah he was probably telling the truth
@@emilymaybe5405 what does frigid mean
“I’m Jewish, I don’t eat pork”
And Ethan just completely ignores😂
1. Please don't ever cancel this show ever pls 2. Apologize to trish! We're the first to call her out on wrong doings and things she says but that doesn't mean we won't call out when she is in the right. Hila and Ethan need to see these comments and actually talk about this. I understand no ones perfect and things like this happen and we still love you guys so much but pls see these points!!
They for sure will apologize directly next show.
Moses is in the wrong, ethan and hila please realize that. She didn’t deserve to be gaslighted and have her feelings belittled. You shouldn’t just give moses the “pass” because he’s family. Please apologize to Trisha.
How did they gaslight her
@@nikki1932 they literally invalidated her feelings to the point where she felt the need to say it was HER fault and that it was on her. thats gaslighting. doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize that
@@nikki1932 they don’t recognize her feelings they deny them and tell her what she’s feeling is wrong. Moses was 100 percent in the wrong but since they’re family they’re gonna be on his side
@@tokenofdevotion i’m not talking about people who trisha has had beef with, i’m talking about her significant other talking shit about her behind her back and having his sister justify it by saying “you weren’t meant to see it”. yes everyone has talked shit behind someone’s back, but it’s different when it’s your fucking boyfriend. like what? please explain to me how thats okay, and on top of that having his whole family undermine her feelings and making her blame herself for HIS actions
2 years later I am CACKLING at Ethans face when he shoves the banana down his throat lmfaooo wtf was that 😭😭😭🤣🤣
Why have the tok tok gym bros not gotten ahold of this 😂😂💀
The way he looks so proud after too lmao 😂
I’m doing a rewatch of this entire series bc it’s the last time I felt any joy and I’m so emotional watching this 2 years later 😢
Saaame, this is so nostalgic even though it was only 2 years ago, I feel like I was so happy then
I don’t like the way Hila was justifying Moses nasty actions.
Honestly makes me see hilla in a different light...and it's coming from another woman, doesn't she have empathy for trish..geez
I think the combination of them being family on top of her preconceived notions about Trisha clouded Hila's judgement here. Those DMs sounded SO NASTY and so so hurtful, how could she expect Trisha to just get over something that damaging and degrading?
@@gulerrmodike it’s cus there family
@@Ena48145 oh Jesus christ. Even "sweet/chill girls" make mistakes and sometimes have blind spots in regards to their own family. How DARE the sweet/chill woman make a mistake and not remain perfectly sweet and chill for 100% of her life! People make mistakes dude.
@@sativadva It is weird seeing Hila say that even though last podcast she was saying how she HATES creeps, especially creepy men and Moses has that written all over himself and in those DMs. Like you said, family can forgive family for some crazy shit.
Trish’s energy was sooo much better this episode, her and Ethan were really vibin in this one. Love to see it!
I thought she seemed very low, kindof like how I act when I’m sad/depressed/anxious. Just not AS vibrant as she usually is
We know she likes Food
Yea I really felt that- I really wanna see this work out....
I thought their energy wasn’t that great this episode
Think she needed the week off to reflect on how much she does actually like doing the show.
Watching years later and just researched and realized that 'Book of Jew' is indeed not a real thing, I'm fucking dead LMFAO
have this playing in the background and everytime i look at the screen the cheese looks more and more disturbing
Hila basically told Trisha "he can say anything about you behind your back and you can't care about it". Moses is doing a ton of gaslighting here. Forgiving does not equal forgetting. He's not validating of her feelings whatsoever. Lots of people have issues moving on from something, but healthy people acknowledge that in their partner and allow them to have those feelings, not hold it against them.
KoiFlow I’m sure he was hitting her, it takes two to tango, you cannot just get in a fist fight with one person, that doesn’t even make sense.
@@smac5869 wtf are you saying. ofc one person can get hit and the other doesn’t. if he hit her i’m sure it would’ve come out when she hit him
That’s not what Hila said. Hila’s point was that because of the fact that you don’t think the other person will see it, people say shit they don’t mean. If he really meant it and wanted to hurt her he would’ve just said it to her face. I’m sure everyone has said stuff that they felt in the moment and regretted later
Helen Kim ya exactly, everyone makes mistakes, and if he says he loves her then they should just put the mistakes behind them and just work in being more loving instead of fault finding, I hope he apologizes for what he said and then it is easier to forgive and forget.
@bla bla No, I think he’s obviously in the wrong and Trisha should care about what he says. But that wasn’t Hilas point.
Ethan is so disconnected from his own fan base sometimes “I think this is the worst episode ever”
He says during clearly the best episode ever
Right?! Like I was living for this
he gets insanely mean comments on instagram, that might get to his head? although comments on youtube have been much more positive these last couple of months.. he just likes self deprecating
@@kindredspirit7 yeah that makes sense
I think you are underestimating the amount of hate he gets I’m sure that makes someone feel like they’re shit
@@kindredspirit7 I am not on Instagram, what are they saying
yeahh trisha was definitely in the right here more than anyone else. if i was seriously dating someone and found out that they'd said horrible things about me like that when we were just hooking up to complete strangers, it would make me rethink everything about who i thought they were. that's not something you can just forget & ignore
Trisha literally eating the fabric and then saying "oh my god you posioned me" 😂😂 im cryyyyiing
The thing is, when someone is denying your experience you can’t move past it. If Moses just admitted what he did/said was wrong, Trisha would be able to move on. Denying it makes Trisha feel crazy, and makes her feel like her experience isn’t valid ...
exactly! specially because if no one is trying to acknowledge or understand it, how on earth is she going to trust that it's going to change?
YESSS OMG PREACH being gaslight makes you hold on to the anger & pain for so much longer because there’s not much closure
YES YES YES YES, AMAZING WORDS
The LEAST Moses could do is apologize like wtf. Of course Trisha is going to have a hard time letting it go when he is not even showing remorse
He did he said he apologized multiple times
@@strawberries6485 not good enough. HIs true feelings was revealed.
@@londonvon3795 i dont think that was his true feelings he probably just said a buch of stuff he didnt mean because he was hurt people make mistakes they should go to couples therapy and try and get over it and if they cant then they should take a break
@@londonvon3795 Not good enough? His argument is that it's something they need to get past, what is he supposed to do if he's apologized multiple times. So many women in these comments projecting. He was in the wrong for sure, but either move on or break up. Ppl do stupid shit when they're angry/hurt in relationships
@@johno5757 It's such a cruel thing to say He's 40 something years old for gawd sakes. I expect that from a kid but not a man. What kind of grown, mature man will ever say something so disgusting. Why would you even disclose your private business with a catfish knowing, possibly, you're gonna get exposed? What an idiot.It's covid and times are tough. I think he's only in it for the free food, and luxary gifts. He prob stalked her past youtbe video and saw how much shit jason got from trisha. Trisha bought moses a ton of gifts for christmas A new phone, laptop with custom phone case, among other perks that comes with dating her.
@55:45 - Ethan predicted what was going to happen with the frenemies hoodies
hilas advice was sooo bad 😂
I was 100% supportive of Trisha being with Moses, but after this episode.... she needs to kick him to the curb. He's manipulative and sees Trisha as an easy target.
nailed it.
Armchair psychologist pls stfu, I agree what we saw is sketch but we saw basically NOTHING. They have actual lives off camera, we dont have the right to make those judgements
I really feel like Trisha had a point. When someone makes a mean comment about an intimate part of you, you aren’t just going to forget about it. It’s so easy to develop an insecurity after that. I feel like that’s a very valid reason to be uncomfortable even if it happened long ago.
agreed
yeah for sure
Yes totally agree!
@Sly News lol
I think moses is being so manipulative here and i know hila is just trying to defend her brother, but that line of logic that "oh you weren't supposed to see that so you shouldn't be hurt by it," or "if you love someone you should forgive them" is so toxic and manipulative and i think it only further proves the things moses' exes have said about him being a really mean person who purposefully manipulates and hurts the women he dates. Not sure if I've commented this on any of these videos yet but i also think, rewatching all these old frenemies, its so clear to me that a lot of the mean things trisha has been saying about ethan's family and moses and hila's family is clearly coming from moses. i think he talks a lot of shit about both sides of his family to trisha in private and it puts these thoughts in her head that his family is judgmental or that ethan is "money-hungry" and i think trisha took the brunt of the blame for saying these things when in reality, it seems to me, that she was simply relaying information moses told her. i think not only has moses been talking to other girls behind trisha's back while they were dating, but he manipulates her into believing its not a problem. I also believe he's manipulated her into believing bad things about ethan and hila and was the ultimate wedge in their relationship. Which is so sad cause ethan was such a caring, positive force in trisha's life. Moses is the cause of the end of frenemies in my opinion.
You may be on to something. Can you imagine someone telling you that you shouldn't be upset bc you weren't supposed to read something and it was horrible - about you? That's giving the thumbs up to deception and suppression of trauma. I think it may have come out wrong by Hila- I hope...
I feel so bad for trisha in this, her explanation makes so much sense how do ethan and hila not understand how much that could hurt someone’s feelings