I know this is years ago that you made this, but i just recently visited my grandad after not seeing him for 10 years and he went through all this with me, and I'm starting to get into black powder rifles and pistols, its amazing to see the people are still interested in it! Beats burning through full boxes of ammo with full autos. I love the feel and the history behind black powder guns.
@@sleeperno1215 I'm an archaeologist, so I love history. My local gunstore has a replica of the Colt Navy 1851 that I want to buy. My Grandfather is experienced in black powder rifles, but they are the more modern variants while I want to get older ones. My dream guns besides the 1851 is the LeMat, Kentucky Rifle, and a Matchlock.
I'm not a gun guy at all. But this is fascinating. Also the paper cartridges. I envy that you Americans so easily can access and play around with this stuff. I wonder what shootouts really were like when there was so much work to be done between each reload. I wish there were Westerns that actually focus on those details. Nothing is more intriguing than historical realism, IMO.
Gun slingers carried multiple revolvers and rifles for this reason. The invention of the henry repeating rifles revolutionized the way they fought. Which allowed roughly 15 times more firepower per person. The typical trained long gun shooter can squeeze off 2-3 shots per minute with muzzleloaders while the henry repeater could shoot ~30 a minute.
Black powder guns are the only type of guns legal without permit or any bureaucratic hassle in my country. I was at the shooting range for the first time today with one of these. It was fun!
Just went over my black powder guns with my son, 12 I showed him this video BEST ONE Cleaning wise I have found, I do add 1 more step before I replace the guns nipples I add little anti seize to the thread. I got my first black powder guns USED and abused I broke a nipple wrench just on the first disassembly prior to shooting, had to cut a 5mm socket to do the job. After that I learned 2 things 1 anti seize is my friend 2 One does not need to torque the nipples just hand tight is all that is needed.
I actually use anti-seize on those threads also. I may not have mentioned it in this video, but I’ve talked about it in other videos. Thanks for watching and for introducing the next generation to the hobby!
Black powder guns are something else, i love it when someone fires one at the range and i get a whiff of the smoke, not like modern gun smoke, and the gun shot is also more of a Boom, not a bang, if that makes any sense hahaha
@Sue Cash Hi, I'm afraid i'm not much help as i don't own any Black powder guns just yet, but i'm saving up to buy one too. The only thing i know is that you should NEVER use smokeless powder and you should use oversized lead balls to prevent chainfires in revolvers.
Yeah Dudes love the smell of gun powder.. Some of us like gas and oil too.. Ha ha ha ha ha Its a dude thing like the three stooges.. They dont get it.. Ha ha ha ha ha They are not supposed to...smile
For a first revolver, I prefer the 1858 Remington. You can easily remove the cylinder and you can buy a very inexpensive loading press (like $19.00) which makes loading the cylinder off the revolver real easy and far easier then loading the revolver using it's own ramming system. Also, with an 1858, you can buy extra cylinders, load them all and be able to shoot quite a few rounds just by swapping out the spent cylinders and replacing them with loaded ones. I have two extra cylinders for my 1858 so I can shoot 18 shots before having to reload. As for substitutes, I have found triple 7 to be the best. But you do have to reduce the load slightly. Triple 7 has performed better for me then Pyrodex. I find no advantage to using a .36 cal over the more common .44 caliber. Neither has much recoil. A 20 - 25 grain load of fffG black powder is more then enough and is an accurate load for a .44 cal 1858 shooting 141 grain balls at 15 - 25 yards.
@@Puppy_Puppington I believe there are conversion cylinders but they require you to remove the cylinder, pull it apart and insert cartridges. Plus I am not a fan of using smokeless powder with conversion cylinders in these old BP guns. I find it as easy to just load the cylinders with the little press designed for the BP revolvers and just keep a few loaded cylinders when you are at the range. Between my two old Remington revolvers I have four cylinders which gives me 24 shots. I mean how many more does one need to practice with unless a person is one of those bang bang bang cowboy wannabe's who use the cowboy range and fire off 1000 rounds at about arms length. If that's the case, buying a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt would be a better option and probably safer.
@@hooks_and_horns The New Army model which the 1858 Uberti and Pietta guns actually are have the extra notches that allow you to park the cylinder such that you can't accidentally fire it by hitting the hammer. So, you can load all six. As for the extra cylinders, it depends on what you carry them in. The safest way is to keep the caps off till you plan to use the thing since striking a cap by accidentally dropping the extra cylinder can cause the charge to go off. But if you have them in a proper cylinder pouch / carrier you can just keep them capped and ready to go.
Something worth mentioning if you’ve got about 6 buddies that also have black powder firearms and decide to stand together shoulder to shoulder as they did in wars of the past and unleash led into soda cans and various other targets it doesn’t take long before it becomes difficult to see
Not having shot black powder for about 20 years, and looking to get back into the hobby, this video is hands down the best of it's kind I have found so far. Thank you.
I have just bought my first black powder revolver, I got a reproduction of the Remington 1858, .44 caliber. This was informational on how to care for it. Thank you so much!
I used to hate to too, but once you have some rules its not bad. rule #1 only one bp gun per shoot :-) Unless you really like cleaning. #2, dont sweat the cleaning... cleaning asap when you get home... might be immediately, might be after a nap. #3, just turn on a game or movie and take your time. #4 it can never be perfectly clean. Do it as good as you can but go back to #2. #5 worse case scenario use the dishwasher but take it out before the wife sees it!
That's one of the best instructional videos i've ever seen. I have been kicking around getting into blackpowder shooting and now I have what I need to start. Thanks so much!
Not particularly a gun person but came across your video on RUclips and it was really fascinating. The blackpowder the the ball the whole process all that you needed makes you appreciate how dangerous firearms were back then. And then to use them that during a high pressure military engagement Can’t imagine
I enjoy shooting my Thompson Hawkin .50 cal. Only problem I have ever encountered was setting the range on fire on a hit dry summer day. Enjoyed the video.
I am a member of SASS and I loved your video. As a cap and ball shooter, I was reminded of a few easier was to clean my firearms. Thank you for the excellent video.
Dustin , you've made an excellent video for all of us who are interested in starting in black powder shooting . It was informative , detailed as well as highly entertaining . TY and wishing you many years of safe & fun shooting as well as...Death to the High Fructose Gang !
one thing i like about ball and cap is that i know how to make the caps out of soda cans and i know how to make the powder and i know how to make the balls so its the best gun for me in Long Term Sustainability
I have a Trad. Hawken Woodsman .50 with a 1:66 twist that I love to shoot... Got started playing with B/P about 15 yrs ago when a Boy Scout troop I was a leader for got invited to a Mountain Man Rendezvous... Now I want to move to revolvers and have been looking at the Pietta 1851 Navy as a starter... Just so you know you aren't the first to recommend it but you are the one who clinched the deal... Thanks and Keep up the Good Work!!!
I live in the UK. I heard the sound of a model cannon go off once. I understand it was loaded with 50 grains. The sound was amazing.... something that you can't really get across in a video. And I guess I'm not the only one who adores the smell of black powder when it fires. I'm told that there's a legal way of getting into black powder shooting in the UK, so I will investigate further. It's top of my bucket list.
This is the best vid on black powder weapons I have seen to date as in having the most useful info for beginners, concise, simple and well-paced. It is the only one I have seen (of 10+) addressing blowing my fingers off with smokeless powder!! I have a '51 that I have never fired since it was given to me in 1968. Maybe someday soon?
Nicely Done Dustin. By the way, I just took your class on gun safety and was impressed with the class. You were the instructor at that time. (2-17-18 at sportsmen warehouse)
I came to this video a few years ago when I was just first getting into black powder shooting. It helped me a lot, and I can say my collection is now one fluted 1860 army, and one 50 caliber hawken strong. Not a huge one but it's getting there. Thank you for what you do for people. Last I watched this video, I was confused and ill-informed. Now, I'd definitely consider myself a smoke addict.
@@RoyalAnarchist idk one of my ancestors did pretty well before and after the civil war he started the war as a volunteer with nothing more than a flintlock muscket and hatchet he took the pistol from every Confederate officer he killed it's said he came home with a Springfield rifle crate filled with 1851 Navy colts and only used one the entire war
@@elcheaposurvivor8623 sounds like a fake story. he somehow killed all these officers and also got to go claim the pistol himself before anyone else got to it? As a volunteer? Someone else would likely take it in the chaos. Flintlocks aren't as accurate as percussion rifles, so he would necessarily have to be much close to the enemy officer to kill him and then in the middle of this battle, go retrieve his revolver. Not only did this unlikely event happen, it happened so many times that a crate was filled with these pistols. Seems legit. There is no other way a crate of pistols could be obtained other than killing the entire West Point graduation class of 1859 and taking all their pistols. Right...
@@frydemwingz well Range Ryder firstly awesome name , secondly let's not forget before the civil war the federal armies of the Union of states was not uniformly out fitted many Calvary soldiers were not officers and had pistols and many Union volunteer infantry brought there own fire arms to the war and not every officer was a west point grad but my Lancaster did make a habit out of targeting officers is the entirety of this story true no one will ever know but let's look at it from this perspective, possible and likelys, a Springfield ruffle case was four foot long and two and a half wide they weren't that large and one of these could hold maybe thirty to forty pistols besides what he would have kept on his belt also the scenario in which he could have picked up the first revolver was most likely a hand to hand one as bushwacking was quite common so yes it does seem impossible especially considering there is no recorded proof beyond family legend but many crazy things happened back then
I rarely comment on videos, but had to leave a comment here. I won a Traditions Buckstalker 50 cal in a giveaway last week. Knowing nothing about muzzleloaders, I found myself watching this video. Needless to say, I now look forward to trying out my new rifle. After research and watching your Pietta 1851 video, I just went and bought one, as well. Being in California, you have no idea how oddly exciting it was to buy something and use my home as the shipping address, not my FFL. Thank you for your informative videos!
Super Informational, this was the best educational video I have seen on black powder. I work for an FFL in Oregon and on occasion we sell this, but it makes it difficult because I didn't know anything at the time so thank you for your knowledge.
Great video! The only thing I would add, is that if you live in a high humidity location, or if it is VERY humid, you will want to clean your firearms sooner than later. I live between 2 large lakes, and the water table is about 10 feet below the ground surface. I ALWAYS clean up my B.P. firearms immediately when I get everything unloaded. To be honest, it's mostly BECAUSE I HATE RUST! Especially on firearms!!!
I recently made a homemade blackpowder cannon...I was inexperienced with muzzle loading and it pipe bombed on me. I watched this and I think I now know what I’m doing when I build and shoot another one. Thanks a lot!
I have watched a few times Dustin even going into my 5th BP gun still so much to learn. I have had a few friends ask on initial purchase which one to get. I pick em up head out to range with My .44 Pietta Sheriff and my Hawken I`ll let them load and shoot it, then back to house I will walk them through the Clean Up, Some are lost here never to return to the B.P subject, others you see it in the eyes all light up and dancing run out and get a CVA/Traditions/Thompson. and Off to the races for them...
My first was/is a .32 percussion rifle I finished from a kit. My second was a .36 percussion side by side derringer. Wish I still had it. My interest in black powder has grown from there. I was worried about how to clean a flintlock with a pinned stock, but once I discovered a few techniques I now have a full stock flintlock. Great fun!
Great tutorial,Dustin!I have enjoyed these guns for many years,and to me they are NEVER out of style!It is a great hobby for those of us who don't need to shoot lots of ammo.Remember ,all who read this...these guns are DEADLY!They are NOT toys.
It's been a bit over a year or 2 since I used my first muzzelloader. Your videos have definitely helped alot in getting me started. Now after showing by brother how they work he has some interest. The better advice I got was to just bite the bullet and buy a book or 2 about black powder and muzzelloaders. When I was able to sit down and reference the book when getting advice it did help alot. Sure they come with a manual, but having that extra reference deffenitly helps with the safety aspect of everything. I ended up getting a cooler to keep supplies in. Non metal, keeps temp swings to a minimum and allows a bit of a safety barrier just in case something falls unexpectedly.
My first black powder gun was a Colt Navy in 44 cal that I bought from my uncle (he had never even shot it). Since then, I've bought a Colt Army and a Colt Walker. Now I'm interested in getting an 1858 Remington. And someday, a black powder rifle. I use Triple 7 for powder, and Thompson's No. 13 for cleaning fluid.
Very good ben shooten black powder for years stoped because hard to find range that accepts black powder now in fla. got range back into and wanted to review good stuff
I know I'm late to the party, but I've always loved old west guns. Got an honest to God 1863 Springfield with an 1868 Allin Trapdoor Conversion from a local pawnshop recently and my family thinks I'm nuts.
This video was very educational. I was surprised at how small the explosion was for the revolver. Sort of similar to a modern day .22 pistol. Yes still cool but maybe the black powder rifle might be more my thing. I got to shoot a flint lock during at hunting trip and wow it’s still the coolest rifle I have ever shot. Like any hobby so much to learn. Thank you for making this video.
I love black powder. "Cap and Ball" channel has a couple of videos showing what happens when smokeless is placed in a black powder revolver. I never mind cleaning. Warm soapy water and your brush and everything cleans right up. Hot clear rinse water and the metal parts will steam dry. Wipe down with your favorite protectant lube and that's all. Ballistol is my current favorite. No worse than washing a few dishes. I do try to avoid petroleum products and try to use natural products. Petroleum products can leave a thicker stiffer fouling than natural products.
Well you created a monster. I watched your videos back in December before deciding to buy my first revolver which was a Uberti 1851 London. Well, not I have seven, including a G&G, L&R, Dance, S&B, 1858 Remington. I now make my own round balls, black powder, wads and grease. I make my own cartridges using your formers and your lube. I am hooked on this very wholesome hobby. Thank you for taking time to share your knowledge. It made a difference for me.
I would have chosen a 1858 Remington in either .36 or .44 ; you have fewer parts on it over any Colt for disassembly and cleaning, Also it has a solid frame so no wedges to fall out or lose.
1858 Remington? No such gun ever existed. However, the computer did make a gun called the New Model Army. In the 20th century, shooters began to incorrectly call it an 1858.
Hot water, dish soap, extra virgin olive oil to oil, cricso (cooking lard or shorting) for lubing the chambers and arbor pin, cost around 10 bucks for almost a years supply of average shooting.
Great video. I got my first black powder rifle a few days ago. Its a 50 year old Kentucky long rifle. Its chambered in .45 round ball and uses percussion caps. I would defenetly NOT recommend this as a first gun lol. Its long (4'6") and weighs a ton, poor center of balance to it, and its a pain to get the barrel free (4 screws and a super tight fit to the stock). That being said, the gun is a TON of fun, and extremely accurate. I'm hooked on black powder for life. Might be picking up a colt navy next lol.
Nice vid and lots of good points, However I would like to add a few more points for consideration; for lube, stay away from anything "petroleum" based. Something based in vegetable or bees wax based works very well. A very cheap (and messy) alternative I use is Crisco grease. For capping the cylinders, I would recommend a Ted Cash snail capper (quite inexpensive) that can reach into the tight space between the frame and cylinder, that can be awkward to reach for us people that have "fat fingers". Also, very important, KEEP YOUR FINGERS AWAY from the front of the cylinder while capping, in case a cylinder goes off. For cleaning / maintenance purposes I see the nipple wrench you got with your Pietta, includes the wire pusher for cleaning the nipples (screwed into the back part of the wrench). For mine, it was NOT included (basic wrench only) so I improvised with a cheap automotive wire feeler gauge that I straightened out. But any straight .020 copper wire will do. For cleaning, HOT water is indeed best, however, I include an equal mix of Murphy"s oil soap (Ballistol works very well too) to the water, in case the water creeps into spaces of the gun I can"t reach, to wipe out later...will help prevent rusting. A very small dab of "copper never seize" on the nipple threads, ensures easy removal...even after a full day of shooting. For additional maintenance purposes, I recommend a good set of "hollow ground" screw drivers / screwdriver bit set. The screws of this gun WILL loosen with use / firing and actually fall out if you aren't paying attention, often within one days use and need to be tightened. The hollow ground screwdrivers will help reduce the distortion of the screw heads, that a normal "flat blade" screw driver will cause. A possible solution for the loosening of the screws (for some) could include the use of "blue Locktite" or clear nail polish, as a temporary solution. This leads to, eventually the gun needs to be disassembled for internal cleaning or repair and so an actual disassembly guide / "exploded view" (google search) guide is needed. Most parts, for the most common items (like broken springs and lost screws) are readily available on the interwebs from places like Taylors and Company. Recommended also....READ, READ, READ all the info you can on the use of this gun and others's experiences with other users black powder fire arms. Then dig out your wallet and buy ANOTHER one, because it is contagious and one aint enough..."keep your powder dry"! This information is solely based on MY experiences with an 1851 Navy (Pietta) (and others), your results may be different.
Back in the 1970s I got tired of measuring powder for each shit so I got a flask with an adjustable Plunger. One adjusts the volume before putting the Plunger in. Just point gun up and press down on flask and it dispenses the measured charge. Fast, no spills, easy and you never see the powder. Keeping powder dry is made simple.
When ever I see new style black powder rifles with the plastic camouflage stock and no lock I say, HAA GEY!! But when I see a percussion Hawkins 50 cal trapper pistol I go OOHH YEAH
I was debating getting a revolver after taxes come in. It looks like a lot of fun and I've never really minded the cleaning part of shooting. I think you've made my mind up for me, thanks!
I did end up buying one. It's ridiculously fun to shoot and it's opened up a whole new world to me. I wouldn't mind getting one of those build your own kits.
I have been into black powder shooting for a while now and I enjoyed your explanation on loading the 36 caliber navy colt. My navy colt was recently stolen and it brings back good memories to have seen another one being operated as I used to.I also learned a little bit from your video in regards to the moose milk I never knew what it was made from so I will have to consider using that on my modern version of a 50 caliber rifle.
Well, I hope you are happy. Your videos were so informative but I could not make a decision for my first revolver. So, now I have a brace of Uberti .36 cal revolvers, a 1851 Navy London and an 1858 New model Navy Remington. Was able to find everything to load them except caps. Looking locally for those today.
Thanks for the interesting video, clear, concise, and easily understood. Since you are interested in historical accuracy, here's a question for you; for the Jeremiah Johnsons of the black powder age, water for cleaning the firearm was in most cases plentiful. What about lubrication? Animal fats? Whale oil ( as lamp oil )? Bear grease? Plant oil? I have been interested in these kinds of firearms for some time now, and being retired, I need a hobby to keep the brain cells busy. I have always enjoyed shooting, wouldn't hunt unless I needed to feed myself, though. I shot a Thompson Center Hawken back in the early '70's ( at least I remember it as a T C... But these days memories are not necessarily accurate.) and nearly crippled myself by touching the trigger before the gun was at, or anywhere near my shoulder. I might like to try it again.
To everyone even considering getting into blackpowder, jus DO IT. It is fun,fun,fun! I love all mine. You will be glad you did. I've been into it 32 years.
I was looking for somewhere to get full info on starting to shoot black powder. Thanks man, you got a 2fer with that high fructose gang but didn't let him slip away! Lol
I appreciate this video. As someone who has always had an interest in Black Powder but still haven't taken the leap. I found this very informative. Ironically my choice was the '51 Navy. I have a rifle but...i want to be a bit more familiar before i get to that. Thanks again.
A great video! The only thing I don't agree with is your choice of caliber. I would suggest a .44 caliber as a first pistol. This is because, if they decided to add other style revolvers, all others are .44 caliber. Also, for a new shooter, it is much easier to purchase Pydrodex 44/45 pellets, wads, and wax plugs... all of which can be used on a follow-on .44 cal blackpowder firearm. Also, to add my two cents, I suggest using a little 'anti-seize' on all internal screws and nipples. It makes cleaning and disassembly so much easier. For cleaning: use very hot water. Thanks again.
Very informative video. I have the 1851 Navy in 44 but haven't shot it yet. I have shot my Hawkin 50 cal many times. You are an inspiration to get my pistol to the range.
There are .32 rifles that Pedersoli like the replicas of the Kentucky, Pennsylvania, and the Scout. Which the .32 Scout is what I would recommend as it's a shorter carbine version of the Pennsylvania rifle.
Seems I'm a little late to the party in regards to commenting, but just came across your video when I was researching black powder bore cleaners and solvents. So, when I saw you loading your cap-n-ball revolver two things came to mind about this process. First thing is the pouring powder directly from the flask into the cylinder chamber. I have a brass flask from CVA with a 20 grain spout and like you it operates by a lever, which allows the shooter to "throw" whatever amount the spout is rated for. But I've read in different forums to NEVER load directly from a flask, which I didn't know. I thought that once the lever on the flask is released, the small panel rotates back into place and the flask is sealed. Anyway I've been loading directly from the flask and nothing has happened … perhaps I've been lucky. The other thing - using a "grease-like" product to seal each chamber in order to prevent a "chain-fire." Again in forums, some have said that if you use a lubed wad seated over the powder, seat the lead ball, and in doing so, see the shaved lead ring, then the chamber is sealed and smearing grease over the lead ball is unnecessary. I guess the fact that the wad is lubed has something to do with it - I dunno. Again I've been shooting without sealing each chamber and I've never had any issues, especially a chain-fire. Again, perhaps I've been lucky. What are your thoughts on this?
First, thanks for watching! If you’re pouring powder directly from the flask into the chambers, just be sure to give it a little time after firing to make sure nothing is still burning in the chamber. I’ve never had a problem doing this, but you’re correct that many manuals say not to do it. Using a slightly oversized ball/bullet helps to prevent chain fires. The grease has more to do with keeping the bore clean for accuracy. Also, if you use the lubricated wads between the powder and the ball, you don’t need the grease on top. Either method will work on its own. I actually have a video coming out Saturday morning, in which I compare the two methods.
After watching Jeremiah Johnson one year ago all I wanted was a Hawkins 50cal and my grandpa has like 50 guns and he had 2 black powder guns one was a Hawkins 50 cal and a Kentucky long riffle, he says when I'm older I can have it
Hi Dustin! After three months of watching your videos, I went out and bought an 1851 Navy in 36 caliber from Cabelas. I figured I would start out small, learn how to use it, and maybe move on to a 44 later. You know, those Remingtons are nice, but sure a lot bigger in person than they look in pictures and video. I went with the Colt replica to start. Thanks for sending me to Black Powder College. I'm a big fan now.
in canada flintlock rifles, along with matchlock and wheellock rifles, are considered a non-firearm and as such don't need a license, transport permits, etc
Hello Dustin, I just discovered there is an entire black powder revolver market!! I made my mistakes in the past and am a convicted felon, no firearms for me.. EXCEPT black powder market!! I live in central Oregon and go on daily adventures with my 3 kids (dogs). I am looking for something nice and compact that could be an everyday carry/home protection revolver. I was hoping nowadays there would be a company somewhere making newer modern black powder revolvers? Just stumbled upon the first video of yours and Im subscribed and will be following! Keep at it bid dog!!
Not sure if this is proper or not but I was taught to bounce the ram rod once you feel as if the ball is seated against the powder just to make certain the ball is seated tightly (in rifles only).basically once you ram the ball home and can push no further lift the ram rod about half way out the barrel and similar to throwing a dart, project the ram rod downward letting go of it and it will bounce off the ball if the seat is true.if it is not seated all the way it will just kinda thud against the ball and the rod will not bounce back out of the muzzle and ball should be pressed further so no space will be between powder and ball. Like I said not sure if this is a proper practice or not but has always worked for me to assure the ball is pressed all the way home and has never affected accuracy. Any feedback on this practice is welcome negative or positive so I know if I have been doing something wrong all these years lol.I was taught this by an older fellow not saying the old guys are always right but a lot of times if you listen they can certainly teach you a trick or two.thank you and I really enjoyed your video.
Great resource for new BP shooters. The bald guy in the video intro however looked a bit "unsteady", but he was the one to spot the high fructose gang. Have a good one *LIKED* the video --LT
40 years ago with my Ruger Old Army I would add some Cream Of Wheat to the cylinder after filling my black powder Then used Crisco for my lube. After ramming the ball I would add more Crisco on top to prevent a chain fire. Made a great fire ball especially when firing at night. I thought it was a great home defense gun because the noise and flame would strike fear into any intruder. And I liked the safety that it would not penetrate walls well. I did trade the Old Army for something more concealable. I wish I had another.
Excellent video, I'm glad I found your channel through Arizona Ghost riders. You make black powder EZ to understand, Thanks! I think I'll give it a try.
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I know this is years ago that you made this, but i just recently visited my grandad after not seeing him for 10 years and he went through all this with me, and I'm starting to get into black powder rifles and pistols, its amazing to see the people are still interested in it! Beats burning through full boxes of ammo with full autos. I love the feel and the history behind black powder guns.
This was my first introduction 3 years ago. I now have nine revolvers and two flintlocks. I make everything for mine including the powder.
You can shoot all day, having fun, and still only spend like $20! Try that with a modern firearm!
@@MJHemmer amen.
@@sleeperno1215 I'm an archaeologist, so I love history. My local gunstore has a replica of the Colt Navy 1851 that I want to buy. My Grandfather is experienced in black powder rifles, but they are the more modern variants while I want to get older ones. My dream guns besides the 1851 is the LeMat, Kentucky Rifle, and a Matchlock.
I'm not a gun guy at all. But this is fascinating. Also the paper cartridges. I envy that you Americans so easily can access and play around with this stuff.
I wonder what shootouts really were like when there was so much work to be done between each reload. I wish there were Westerns that actually focus on those details. Nothing is more intriguing than historical realism, IMO.
You would want a rifle and two pistols
And a horse that bites
Gun slingers carried multiple revolvers and rifles for this reason. The invention of the henry repeating rifles revolutionized the way they fought. Which allowed roughly 15 times more firepower per person. The typical trained long gun shooter can squeeze off 2-3 shots per minute with muzzleloaders while the henry repeater could shoot ~30 a minute.
Black powder guns are the only type of guns legal without permit or any bureaucratic hassle in my country. I was at the shooting range for the first time today with one of these. It was fun!
This was my first time seeing the High Fructose Gang and boy did they leave an impression on me
Just went over my black powder guns with my son, 12 I showed him this video BEST ONE Cleaning wise I have found, I do add 1 more step before I replace the guns nipples I add little anti seize to the thread. I got my first black powder guns USED and abused I broke a nipple wrench just on the first disassembly prior to shooting, had to cut a 5mm socket to do the job. After that I learned 2 things 1 anti seize is my friend 2 One does not need to torque the nipples just hand tight is all that is needed.
I actually use anti-seize on those threads also. I may not have mentioned it in this video, but I’ve talked about it in other videos. Thanks for watching and for introducing the next generation to the hobby!
Black powder guns are something else, i love it when someone fires one at the range and i get a whiff of the smoke, not like modern gun smoke, and the gun shot is also more of a Boom, not a bang, if that makes any sense hahaha
@Sue Cash Hi, I'm afraid i'm not much help as i don't own any Black powder guns just yet, but i'm saving up to buy one too. The only thing i know is that you should NEVER use smokeless powder and you should use oversized lead balls to prevent chainfires in revolvers.
Yeah
Dudes love the smell of gun powder..
Some of us like gas and oil too..
Ha ha ha ha ha
Its a dude thing like the three stooges..
They dont get it..
Ha ha ha ha ha
They are not supposed to...smile
For a first revolver, I prefer the 1858 Remington. You can easily remove the cylinder and
you can buy a very inexpensive loading press (like $19.00) which makes loading the cylinder off the revolver
real easy and far easier then loading the revolver using it's own ramming system. Also, with an
1858, you can buy extra cylinders, load them all and be able to shoot quite a few rounds just by swapping out the
spent cylinders and replacing them with loaded ones. I have two extra cylinders for my 1858 so I can
shoot 18 shots before having to reload. As for substitutes, I have found triple 7 to be the best. But
you do have to reduce the load slightly. Triple 7 has performed better for me then Pyrodex.
I find no advantage to using a .36 cal over the more common .44 caliber. Neither has much
recoil. A 20 - 25 grain load of fffG black powder is more then enough and is an accurate load for a .44 cal
1858 shooting 141 grain balls at 15 - 25 yards.
Would you carry these extra cylinders capped? Would you carry with all 6 loaded or do the 5 round cowboy carry?
Is there a conversion cylinder for it? To make it fire low pressure cowboy cartridges
@@Puppy_Puppington I believe there are conversion cylinders but they
require you to remove the cylinder, pull it apart and insert cartridges.
Plus I am not a fan of using smokeless powder with conversion
cylinders in these old BP guns. I find it as easy to just load the cylinders
with the little press designed for the BP revolvers and just
keep a few loaded cylinders when you are at the range.
Between my two old Remington revolvers I have four
cylinders which gives me 24 shots. I mean how many more
does one need to practice with unless a person is
one of those bang bang bang cowboy wannabe's
who use the cowboy range and fire off 1000 rounds at
about arms length. If that's the case, buying
a Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt would be a better option
and probably safer.
@@scouttrooperhh-1487I believe some colts have grooves in between chambers that you let the hammer down on and it’s like a little notch
@@hooks_and_horns The New Army model which the 1858 Uberti and Pietta guns actually are have
the extra notches that allow you to park the cylinder such that you can't accidentally fire
it by hitting the hammer. So, you can load all six. As for the extra cylinders, it depends on what
you carry them in. The safest way is to keep the caps off till you plan to use
the thing since striking a cap by accidentally dropping the extra cylinder can cause
the charge to go off. But if you have them in a proper cylinder pouch / carrier you
can just keep them capped and ready to go.
I love you black powder guys. You're so friendly and accepting of us newbs. Planning on getting my first black powder revolver soon.
How'd that go?
@@ulyssesdelamora3856 Excellent! I bought a Pietta Colt 1860, and Remington 1858.
It's super easy to learn, and fun.
Something worth mentioning if you’ve got about 6 buddies that also have black powder firearms and decide to stand together shoulder to shoulder as they did in wars of the past and unleash led into soda cans and various other targets it doesn’t take long before it becomes difficult to see
Not having shot black powder for about 20 years, and looking to get back into the hobby, this video is hands down the best of it's kind I have found so far. Thank you.
Thank you!
I've recently gotten back into the hobby myself...except where I live its teflon cookware gang territory
This made me feel like I was a preteen again, And I'm 50 years old! Good Job!
I have just bought my first black powder revolver, I got a reproduction of the Remington 1858, .44 caliber. This was informational on how to care for it. Thank you so much!
Kevin D You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
I love shooting blackpowder but I hate the cleanup afterwards.
Thanks for watching!
Agreed I will be doing a video on cleaning one
Me to
I used to hate to too, but once you have some rules its not bad. rule #1 only one bp gun per shoot :-) Unless you really like cleaning. #2, dont sweat the cleaning... cleaning asap when you get home... might be immediately, might be after a nap. #3, just turn on a game or movie and take your time. #4 it can never be perfectly clean. Do it as good as you can but go back to #2. #5 worse case scenario use the dishwasher but take it out before the wife sees it!
Cleaning guns is fun though
That's one of the best instructional videos i've ever seen. I have been kicking around getting into blackpowder shooting and now I have what I need to start. Thanks so much!
This brings back the days that I was a Civil War reenactor. I had great fun doing that.
shot a soda when he was down man have you no respect for that good syrup nice video my man
Show no mercy to the High Fructose Gang, for they will show none to you. LOL! Thanks for watching!
Not particularly a gun person but came across your video on RUclips and it was really fascinating. The blackpowder the the ball the whole process all that you needed makes you appreciate how dangerous firearms were back then. And then to use them that during a high pressure military engagement Can’t imagine
They’ve definitely changed a lot over the years. Thanks for watching!
I enjoy shooting my Thompson Hawkin .50 cal. Only problem I have ever encountered was setting the range on fire on a hit dry summer day. Enjoyed the video.
Thank You for refreshing my memory I dug out my 1851 colt after 25 years and couldn't be sure of the powder load , and a couple other things .
I am a member of SASS and I loved your video. As a cap and ball shooter, I was reminded of a few easier was to clean my firearms.
Thank you for the excellent video.
Dustin , you've made an excellent video for all of us who are interested in starting in black powder shooting . It was informative , detailed as well as highly entertaining . TY and wishing you many years of safe & fun shooting as well as...Death to the High Fructose Gang !
Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
one thing i like about ball and cap
is that i know how to make the caps out of soda cans
and i know how to make the powder
and i know how to make the balls
so its the best gun for me in Long Term Sustainability
I have a Trad. Hawken Woodsman .50 with a 1:66 twist that I love to shoot... Got started playing with B/P about 15 yrs ago when a Boy Scout troop I was a leader for got invited to a Mountain Man Rendezvous... Now I want to move to revolvers and have been looking at the Pietta 1851 Navy as a starter... Just so you know you aren't the first to recommend it but you are the one who clinched the deal... Thanks and Keep up the Good Work!!!
Ordering a 61 navy. Your videos helped solidify my choice of trying out and owning these type of guns.
Man this is great! Well enunciated, informative, and fairly engaging. Well done, I'm proud!
Thank you!
What exactly are you proud of.
This is the perfect blend of corny and really good information. Thank you. This has helped me immensely.
Thanks for watching!
I live in the UK. I heard the sound of a model cannon go off once. I understand it was loaded with 50 grains. The sound was amazing.... something that you can't really get across in a video. And I guess I'm not the only one who adores the smell of black powder when it fires. I'm told that there's a legal way of getting into black powder shooting in the UK, so I will investigate further. It's top of my bucket list.
Michael Stow I love that smell too! Thanks for watching!
I’m a UK 🇬🇧 black powder shooter - have a look at MLAGB.com
Wife was gifted a BP rifle. We've done a lot of shooting over the years. Zero experience with BP.
This video was very informative.
This is the best vid on black powder weapons I have seen to date as in having the most useful info for beginners, concise, simple and well-paced. It is the only one I have seen (of 10+) addressing blowing my fingers off with smokeless powder!! I have a '51 that I have never fired since it was given to me in 1968. Maybe someday soon?
Thanks very much!
Nicely Done Dustin. By the way, I just took your class on gun safety and was impressed with the class. You were the instructor at that time. (2-17-18 at sportsmen warehouse)
Hey, good to see you again! Thanks for watching!
New to the world of black powder. Just got 1st traditions 1860 army. Totally hooked! Gratitude for the well made, informative videos
I came to this video a few years ago when I was just first getting into black powder shooting. It helped me a lot, and I can say my collection is now one fluted 1860 army, and one 50 caliber hawken strong. Not a huge one but it's getting there. Thank you for what you do for people. Last I watched this video, I was confused and ill-informed. Now, I'd definitely consider myself a smoke addict.
That’s awesome! I’m glad it helped. Thanks for watching!
This is by far the easiest and most noob friendly guide I’ve seen thanks!!
The 7 people who disliked this video are AK47 shooters. You have a good speaking style Dustin and you do a good instructional video. Thanks.
Thanks very much!
Or they like the Remington 1858 more.
You can't shoot AKs and like black powder?
Could have been reduced to about a 7 minute video.
Why not load black powder in the AK?
Hard to imagine going into battle with these types of weapons.
It’s easier when the enemy also has them, or has weapons that are actually less advanced
@@RoyalAnarchist idk one of my ancestors did pretty well before and after the civil war he started the war as a volunteer with nothing more than a flintlock muscket and hatchet he took the pistol from every Confederate officer he killed it's said he came home with a Springfield rifle crate filled with 1851 Navy colts and only used one the entire war
@@elcheaposurvivor8623 sounds like a fake story. he somehow killed all these officers and also got to go claim the pistol himself before anyone else got to it? As a volunteer? Someone else would likely take it in the chaos. Flintlocks aren't as accurate as percussion rifles, so he would necessarily have to be much close to the enemy officer to kill him and then in the middle of this battle, go retrieve his revolver. Not only did this unlikely event happen, it happened so many times that a crate was filled with these pistols. Seems legit. There is no other way a crate of pistols could be obtained other than killing the entire West Point graduation class of 1859 and taking all their pistols. Right...
@@frydemwingz well Range Ryder firstly awesome name , secondly let's not forget before the civil war the federal armies of the Union of states was not uniformly out fitted many Calvary soldiers were not officers and had pistols and many Union volunteer infantry brought there own fire arms to the war and not every officer was a west point grad but my Lancaster did make a habit out of targeting officers is the entirety of this story true no one will ever know but let's look at it from this perspective, possible and likelys, a Springfield ruffle case was four foot long and two and a half wide they weren't that large and one of these could hold maybe thirty to forty pistols besides what he would have kept on his belt also the scenario in which he could have picked up the first revolver was most likely a hand to hand one as bushwacking was quite common so yes it does seem impossible especially considering there is no recorded proof beyond family legend but many crazy things happened back then
Just thought about this but devil lance Hatfield was recorded having done this very same thing and no one argues that
I rarely comment on videos, but had to leave a comment here. I won a Traditions Buckstalker 50 cal in a giveaway last week. Knowing nothing about muzzleloaders, I found myself watching this video. Needless to say, I now look forward to trying out my new rifle. After research and watching your Pietta 1851 video, I just went and bought one, as well. Being in California, you have no idea how oddly exciting it was to buy something and use my home as the shipping address, not my FFL. Thank you for your informative videos!
Christian Garcia Congrats on winning that gun! Thanks for watching!
Super Informational, this was the best educational video I have seen on black powder. I work for an FFL in Oregon and on occasion we sell this, but it makes it difficult because I didn't know anything at the time so thank you for your knowledge.
Great video! The only thing I would add, is that if you live in a high humidity location, or if it is VERY humid, you will want to clean your firearms sooner than later. I live between 2 large lakes, and the water table is about 10 feet below the ground surface. I ALWAYS clean up my B.P. firearms immediately when I get everything unloaded. To be honest, it's mostly BECAUSE I HATE RUST! Especially on firearms!!!
I recently made a homemade blackpowder cannon...I was inexperienced with muzzle loading and it pipe bombed on me. I watched this and I think I now know what I’m doing when I build and shoot another one. Thanks a lot!
I have watched a few times Dustin even going into my 5th BP gun still so much to learn. I have had a few friends ask on initial purchase which one to get. I pick em up head out to range with My .44 Pietta Sheriff and my Hawken I`ll let them load and shoot it, then back to house I will walk them through the Clean Up, Some are lost here never to return to the B.P subject, others you see it in the eyes all light up and dancing run out and get a CVA/Traditions/Thompson. and Off to the races for them...
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Great video ! Thanks for explaining this!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
My first was/is a .32 percussion rifle I finished from a kit. My second was a .36 percussion side by side derringer. Wish I still had it. My interest in black powder has grown from there. I was worried about how to clean a flintlock with a pinned stock, but once I discovered a few techniques I now have a full stock flintlock. Great fun!
I love the cheesy campy videos you make sir. Very informative thank you
Thanks for watching!
Thank you. I'm a total beginner. You really made things clear.
Great tutorial,Dustin!I have enjoyed these guns for many years,and to me they are NEVER out of style!It is a great hobby for those of us who don't need to shoot lots of ammo.Remember ,all who read this...these guns are DEADLY!They are NOT toys.
Great video. Im so excited to get my first black powder pistol. Im sure ill be back to watch again.
Thanks for watching!
It's been a bit over a year or 2 since I used my first muzzelloader.
Your videos have definitely helped alot in getting me started.
Now after showing by brother how they work he has some interest.
The better advice I got was to just bite the bullet and buy a book or 2 about black powder and muzzelloaders.
When I was able to sit down and reference the book when getting advice it did help alot.
Sure they come with a manual, but having that extra reference deffenitly helps with the safety aspect of everything.
I ended up getting a cooler to keep supplies in.
Non metal, keeps temp swings to a minimum and allows a bit of a safety barrier just in case something falls unexpectedly.
I just bought my First Black Powder Firearm. I took your advice and bought a Cap and Ball Revolver. I bought a 1858 Steel Frame made by Pietta.
My first black powder gun was a Colt Navy in 44 cal that I bought from my uncle (he had never even shot it). Since then, I've bought a Colt Army and a Colt Walker. Now I'm interested in getting an 1858 Remington. And someday, a black powder rifle. I use Triple 7 for powder, and Thompson's No. 13 for cleaning fluid.
Just got my 1851 Navy and can't wait to get her dancing!
Congrats! That’s a great revolver!
Very enjoyable and interesting video mate. That black powder pistol is kinda like a handgun and reloading press rolled into one. Pretty cool.
Thanks for watching!
Very good ben shooten black powder for years stoped because hard to find range that accepts black powder now in fla. got range back into and wanted to review good stuff
Fantastic video. I’ve been interested in black powder but never knew where to start. Thanks so much!
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Lyman great plains rifles are so plain jane beautiful i just had to buy one
I know I'm late to the party, but I've always loved old west guns. Got an honest to God 1863 Springfield with an 1868 Allin Trapdoor Conversion from a local pawnshop recently and my family thinks I'm nuts.
This video was very educational. I was surprised at how small the explosion was for the revolver. Sort of similar to a modern day .22 pistol. Yes still cool but maybe the black powder rifle might be more my thing. I got to shoot a flint lock during at hunting trip and wow it’s still the coolest rifle I have ever shot. Like any hobby so much to learn. Thank you for making this video.
Thanks for watching!
I love black powder. "Cap and Ball" channel has a couple of videos showing what happens when smokeless is placed in a black powder revolver.
I never mind cleaning. Warm soapy water and your brush and everything cleans right up. Hot clear rinse water and the metal parts will steam dry. Wipe down with your favorite protectant lube and that's all. Ballistol is my current favorite. No worse than washing a few dishes. I do try to avoid petroleum products and try to use natural products. Petroleum products can leave a thicker stiffer fouling than natural products.
Well you created a monster. I watched your videos back in December before deciding to buy my first revolver which was a Uberti 1851 London. Well, not I have seven, including a G&G, L&R, Dance, S&B, 1858 Remington. I now make my own round balls, black powder, wads and grease. I make my own cartridges using your formers and your lube. I am hooked on this very wholesome hobby. Thank you for taking time to share your knowledge. It made a difference for me.
I love my 1851 Army navy named Smaug I got it for Christmas several years ago it's an pain to clean but I enjoy shooting it
I would have chosen a 1858 Remington in either .36 or .44 ; you have fewer parts on it over any Colt for disassembly and cleaning, Also it has a solid frame so no wedges to fall out or lose.
1858 Remington? No such gun ever existed.
However, the computer did make a gun called the New Model Army. In the 20th century, shooters began to incorrectly call it an 1858.
@@khaccanhle1930 watch the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly then what is the gun Lee Van Cleif is using it.
outstanding video, tyvm for sharing your expertise. your videos are also very fun!! i've seen several and am now subscribed
Thanks!!
Hot water, dish soap, extra virgin olive oil to oil, cricso (cooking lard or shorting) for lubing the chambers and arbor pin, cost around 10 bucks for almost a years supply of average shooting.
Great video. I got my first black powder rifle a few days ago. Its a 50 year old Kentucky long rifle. Its chambered in .45 round ball and uses percussion caps. I would defenetly NOT recommend this as a first gun lol. Its long (4'6") and weighs a ton, poor center of balance to it, and its a pain to get the barrel free (4 screws and a super tight fit to the stock). That being said, the gun is a TON of fun, and extremely accurate. I'm hooked on black powder for life. Might be picking up a colt navy next lol.
Welcome to the world of black powder! These guns can be a bit fussy and they require some work, but they’re so much fun!! Thanks for watching!
First time black powder rifle shooter here. Super informative video. Subscribed!
Thanks for watching!
I love it! Very informative and entertaining. I'll be watching lots of your videos.
Thanks!
Nice vid and lots of good points, However I would like to add a few more points for consideration; for lube, stay away from anything "petroleum" based. Something based in vegetable or bees wax based works very well. A very cheap (and messy) alternative I use is Crisco grease. For capping the cylinders, I would recommend a Ted Cash snail capper (quite inexpensive) that can reach into the tight space between the frame and cylinder, that can be awkward to reach for us people that have "fat fingers". Also, very important, KEEP YOUR FINGERS AWAY from the front of the cylinder while capping, in case a cylinder goes off.
For cleaning / maintenance purposes I see the nipple wrench you got with your Pietta, includes the wire pusher for cleaning the nipples (screwed into the back part of the wrench). For mine, it was NOT included (basic wrench only) so I improvised with a cheap automotive wire feeler gauge that I straightened out. But any straight .020 copper wire will do.
For cleaning, HOT water is indeed best, however, I include an equal mix of Murphy"s oil soap (Ballistol works very well too) to the water, in case the water creeps into spaces of the gun I can"t reach, to wipe out later...will help prevent rusting. A very small dab of "copper never seize" on the nipple threads, ensures easy removal...even after a full day of shooting.
For additional maintenance purposes, I recommend a good set of "hollow ground" screw drivers / screwdriver bit set. The screws of this gun WILL loosen with use / firing and actually fall out if you aren't paying attention, often within one days use and need to be tightened. The hollow ground screwdrivers will help reduce the distortion of the screw heads, that a normal "flat blade" screw driver will cause. A possible solution for the loosening of the screws (for some) could include the use of "blue Locktite" or clear nail polish, as a temporary solution. This leads to, eventually the gun needs to be disassembled for internal cleaning or repair and so an actual disassembly guide / "exploded view" (google search) guide is needed. Most parts, for the most common items (like broken springs and lost screws) are readily available on the interwebs from places like Taylors and Company. Recommended also....READ, READ, READ all the info you can on the use of this gun and others's experiences with other users black powder fire arms. Then dig out your wallet and buy ANOTHER one, because it is contagious and one aint enough..."keep your powder dry"!
This information is solely based on MY experiences with an 1851 Navy (Pietta) (and others), your results may be different.
Back in the 1970s I got tired of measuring powder for each shit so I got a flask with an adjustable Plunger. One adjusts the volume before putting the Plunger in. Just point gun up and press down on flask and it dispenses the measured charge. Fast, no spills, easy and you never see the powder. Keeping powder dry is made simple.
When ever I see new style black powder rifles with the plastic camouflage stock and no lock I say, HAA GEY!!
But when I see a percussion Hawkins 50 cal trapper pistol I go OOHH YEAH
I was debating getting a revolver after taxes come in. It looks like a lot of fun and I've never really minded the cleaning part of shooting. I think you've made my mind up for me, thanks!
I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. Thanks for watching!
I did end up buying one. It's ridiculously fun to shoot and it's opened up a whole new world to me. I wouldn't mind getting one of those build your own kits.
I have been into black powder shooting for a while now and I enjoyed your explanation on loading the 36 caliber navy colt. My navy colt was recently stolen and it brings back good memories to have seen another one being operated as I used to.I also learned a little bit from your video in regards to the moose milk I never knew what it was made from so I will have to consider using that on my modern version of a 50 caliber rifle.
So sorry to hear about your Navy!
Well, I hope you are happy. Your videos were so informative but I could not make a decision for my first revolver. So, now I have a brace of Uberti .36 cal revolvers, a 1851 Navy London and an 1858 New model Navy Remington. Was able to find everything to load them except caps. Looking locally for those today.
Found caps on gunbroker but I paid through the nose for them.
Thanks for the interesting video, clear, concise, and easily understood. Since you are interested in historical accuracy, here's a question for you; for the Jeremiah Johnsons of the black powder age, water for cleaning the firearm was in most cases plentiful. What about lubrication? Animal fats? Whale oil ( as lamp oil )? Bear grease? Plant oil? I have been interested in these kinds of firearms for some time now, and being retired, I need a hobby to keep the brain cells busy. I have always enjoyed shooting, wouldn't hunt unless I needed to feed myself, though. I shot a Thompson Center Hawken back in the early '70's ( at least I remember it as a T C... But these days memories are not necessarily accurate.) and nearly crippled myself by touching the trigger before the gun was at, or anywhere near my shoulder. I might like to try it again.
Great video. Clear and detailed information. Thanks!
Thank you so much for this video. I've been wanting to get into black powder for some time but was unsure where to start!
You’re welcome! I hope you enjoy this fun hobby! Thanks for watching!
Thank you Dustin for this very educational video. I just bought my first plack powder revolver and I'm excited to use it in the future
Thanks for watching! Enjoy that revolver!
To everyone even considering getting into blackpowder, jus DO IT. It is fun,fun,fun! I love all mine. You will be glad you did. I've been into it 32 years.
Informative. Funny. Interesting. Wholesome. This is true content
Thanks!
I was looking for somewhere to get full info on starting to shoot black powder. Thanks man, you got a 2fer with that high fructose gang but didn't let him slip away! Lol
I appreciate this video. As someone who has always had an interest in Black Powder but still haven't taken the leap. I found this very informative. Ironically my choice was the '51 Navy. I have a rifle but...i want to be a bit more familiar before i get to that. Thanks again.
Patrick Thomas You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
A great video!
The only thing I don't agree with is your choice of caliber. I would suggest a .44 caliber as a first pistol. This is because, if they decided to add other style revolvers, all others are .44 caliber. Also, for a new shooter, it is much easier to purchase Pydrodex 44/45 pellets, wads, and wax plugs... all of which can be used on a follow-on .44 cal blackpowder firearm.
Also, to add my two cents, I suggest using a little 'anti-seize' on all internal screws and nipples. It makes cleaning and disassembly so much easier. For cleaning: use very hot water.
Thanks again.
Thanks for watching!
Very informative video. I have the 1851 Navy in 44 but haven't shot it yet. I have shot my Hawkin 50 cal many times. You are an inspiration to get my pistol to the range.
There are .32 rifles that Pedersoli like the replicas of the Kentucky, Pennsylvania, and the Scout. Which the .32 Scout is what I would recommend as it's a shorter carbine version of the Pennsylvania rifle.
Seems I'm a little late to the party in regards to commenting, but just came across your video when I was researching black powder bore cleaners and solvents. So, when I saw you loading your cap-n-ball revolver two things came to mind about this process. First thing is the pouring powder directly from the flask into the cylinder chamber. I have a brass flask from CVA with a 20 grain spout and like you it operates by a lever, which allows the shooter to "throw" whatever amount the spout is rated for. But I've read in different forums to NEVER load directly from a flask, which I didn't know. I thought that once the lever on the flask is released, the small panel rotates back into place and the flask is sealed. Anyway I've been loading directly from the flask and nothing has happened … perhaps I've been lucky. The other thing - using a "grease-like" product to seal each chamber in order to prevent a "chain-fire." Again in forums, some have said that if you use a lubed wad seated over the powder, seat the lead ball, and in doing so, see the shaved lead ring, then the chamber is sealed and smearing grease over the lead ball is unnecessary. I guess the fact that the wad is lubed has something to do with it - I dunno. Again I've been shooting without sealing each chamber and I've never had any issues, especially a chain-fire. Again, perhaps I've been lucky. What are your thoughts on this?
First, thanks for watching!
If you’re pouring powder directly from the flask into the chambers, just be sure to give it a little time after firing to make sure nothing is still burning in the chamber. I’ve never had a problem doing this, but you’re correct that many manuals say not to do it.
Using a slightly oversized ball/bullet helps to prevent chain fires. The grease has more to do with keeping the bore clean for accuracy. Also, if you use the lubricated wads between the powder and the ball, you don’t need the grease on top. Either method will work on its own. I actually have a video coming out Saturday morning, in which I compare the two methods.
Seating an oversized ball helps to provide compression in the cylinder too... good vid!
After watching Jeremiah Johnson one year ago all I wanted was a Hawkins 50cal and my grandpa has like 50 guns and he had 2 black powder guns one was a Hawkins 50 cal and a Kentucky long riffle, he says when I'm older I can have it
Hawken, not Hawkins
Excellent video, just bought my first cap and ball revolver recently. A lot of great info sir!
Congrats on your new revolver! They’re a lot of fun to shoot. Thanks for watching!
Hi Dustin! After three months of watching your videos, I went out and bought an 1851 Navy in 36 caliber from Cabelas. I figured I would start out small, learn how to use it, and maybe move on to a 44 later. You know, those Remingtons are nice, but sure a lot bigger in person than they look in pictures and video. I went with the Colt replica to start. Thanks for sending me to Black Powder College. I'm a big fan now.
I’m very happy that you’re enjoying black powder! Thanks for your support of the channel!
in canada flintlock rifles, along with matchlock and wheellock rifles, are considered a non-firearm and as such don't need a license, transport permits, etc
Store bought lead balls wow you just took half the fun out of cap and ball shooting casting your own bullets is part of the experience
Hello Dustin, I just discovered there is an entire black powder revolver market!! I made my mistakes in the past and am a convicted felon, no firearms for me.. EXCEPT black powder market!! I live in central Oregon and go on daily adventures with my 3 kids (dogs). I am looking for something nice and compact that could be an everyday carry/home protection revolver. I was hoping nowadays there would be a company somewhere making newer modern black powder revolvers? Just stumbled upon the first video of yours and Im subscribed and will be following! Keep at it bid dog!!
Good ole "dead eye" Ricky......awwww snap!
Not sure if this is proper or not but I was taught to bounce the ram rod once you feel as if the ball is seated against the powder just to make certain the ball is seated tightly (in rifles only).basically once you ram the ball home and can push no further lift the ram rod about half way out the barrel and similar to throwing a dart, project the ram rod downward letting go of it and it will bounce off the ball if the seat is true.if it is not seated all the way it will just kinda thud against the ball and the rod will not bounce back out of the muzzle and ball should be pressed further so no space will be between powder and ball. Like I said not sure if this is a proper practice or not but has always worked for me to assure the ball is pressed all the way home and has never affected accuracy. Any feedback on this practice is welcome negative or positive so I know if I have been doing something wrong all these years lol.I was taught this by an older fellow not saying the old guys are always right but a lot of times if you listen they can certainly teach you a trick or two.thank you and I really enjoyed your video.
I never knew Walter White was in the black powder revolvers
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very informative video for new shooters like myself . well presented in clear terms . Thank you !
Great resource for new BP shooters. The bald guy in the video intro however looked a bit "unsteady", but he was the one to spot the high fructose gang. Have a good one *LIKED* the video --LT
40 years ago with my Ruger Old Army I would add some Cream Of Wheat to the cylinder after filling my black powder Then used Crisco for my lube. After ramming the ball I would add more Crisco on top to prevent a chain fire. Made a great fire ball especially when firing at night. I thought it was a great home defense gun because the noise and flame would strike fear into any intruder. And I liked the safety that it would not penetrate walls well. I did trade the Old Army for something more concealable. I wish I had another.
Excellent video, exactly what I was looking for
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video, I'm glad I found your channel through Arizona Ghost riders. You make black powder EZ to understand, Thanks! I think I'll give it a try.
Thank you!
Really nice introduction to black powder.
Thanks very much!
Dustin Winegar No, Thank you