Black Powder Shooting 101: Shooting Basics & Safety Overview With Iraqveteran8888
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- Опубликовано: 17 дек 2017
- I'm joined by Eric from IV8888 in this video and we go over the basics for loading, shooting, and cleaning black powder rifles (in line and muzzle loaders), pistols, and shotguns.
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If you want to reduce a 45-70 load to 50 grains, then you need to fill the rest of the cartridge with corn meal so that the base of the bullet is in contact, leaving no air space. If you're from the south, you can use grits.
No way??😂
Just make sure the gritz or cornmeal is pretty dry.
Funny watching two guys who are used to talking on their own videos, trying to hold their tongue, and wait their turn. Lol
yup!
Like with his powder...Eric leaves no dead air gaps.
Tip: You have to signal him with your right hand in pointing like your going to mention something that he says. The way your body is positioned is not in a conversation stance. It’s kind of like him vs you. You have to go in to listening mode, and continue to ask him more questions, and not give your insight. He is really good at explaining things and over talks even chad sometimes.
да ладно они молодцы.
they did a good job in my mind
Just trying to share knowledge
Black powder corning/grain size general guidelines.
Fg=cannon/artillery powder
FFg=rifle powder (can sometimes be used in big bore pistols)
FFFg=pistol powder (can be used in rifles and carbines)
FFFFg=priming powder (to be used in flash pans of wheelocks, flintlocks and matchlocks)
I have cannon powder in an old pre Goex can,same colors on tin can. In Maine there are black powder gun clubs that have cannons. That Swiss and Scheutzen is good.
The Savage 10 ML muzzleloader uses smokeless powder. However, you do have to use the right kind and amount of smokeless powder.
Blackhorn 209 is a hybrid powder made up of nitrocellulose (smokeless powder) and Guanidine Nitrate.
The most dangerous part of any muzzleloader problem is found between the shooter's ears.
Black powder ignites quicker than most substitutes. This is easily seen in a flintlock. Tried this the first time I shot my rifle. Was able to fire twice in an hour. Flintlocks, stay with actual black powder (especially in the pan).
Awesome! You guys just answered my question about loading black powder into .45 Colt for Uberti Cattleman! Thank you!
My 2 favorite channels together in a video! So much awesomeness RUclips can barely contain it
Thank you
Very helpful and educational. Thanks guys, love both of your channels.
Great video thanks!
Great video, only thing I saw that is misinformation would be that “substitutes are easier to ignite than black powder”. Black powder is much more reactive to ignition than substitutes which is why I as a traditional cap and ball hunter won’t use any substitutes. The stuff doesn’t have nearly as reliable as black powder
Blackpowder seems like alot of trouble and overly complicated. Don't be discouraged, you'll learn quick. All the accoutrements and rituals that go with shooting it becomes second nature and very enjoyable. It's like shooting Zen. Slows the world down. In many states hunting with blackpowder allows a hunter to get out in very early seasons around the same time as bow hunters. Anyone looking for real black powder in Colorado, the Mountain Man Shop in Manitou Springs carries it.
Great video guys!!!!! I thought that you covered the subject masterfully. I personally am someone who shoots a lot of black powder for all of the reasons that you mentioned and I found it very worth while!!!! Keep up the great work.
Awesome video. Thank you so much. I learned a few things I did not know. Great job!!!😎👍
Thank you
Thanks for the info. I am just starting Muzzleloading and this was very helpful.
Good information. Many years ago my dad got a 1865Springfield from his brother who had a nice collection. We always used 4 f in it and never cleaned it but always went bang. Yes it is still in the family.
You put 4f priming powder in a Springfield Rifled Musket? I’m surprised the thing didn’t turn into a pipe bomb...
That was informative, fun and really helpful. Thanks
Loved it! I really enjoy your channel. It’s great to see you doing things beyond the AR.
I do TONS of videos besides ARs (probably 80% of my channel). Problem is---the AR videos get 2x more videos than anything else.
This is a great video with much great information. Thank you. May you both enjoy great success in the coming year.
Thank you
Good stuff as always guys. Thank you so much for sharing.
Have to measure black powder and substitutes by volume because substitutes weigh different by volume than black powder. 35 grains of Black Powder by volume will weigh a lot more than 35 grains by volume of pyrodex but with same power. If you measure by weight you will get substantially more pyrodex by volume than Black powder. Which would make a much hotter load and might not even fit into the cylinder if used in a cap and ball revolver
I looked up "Black Powder", but the auto correct changed it to "Black Pounder".
Couldn't be happier.
how do you think they make the whole "who needs a girlfriend" thing work?
Thanks Eric & Mike great video. Eric has a wealth of knowledge, never heard of cut shotgun shells until I saw him and the late great Barry do their videos.
indeed he does
Very interesting video with good educational information,..thanks very much for this one.
Just started getting into black powder firearms. This video was super helpful thank you
You're welcome 👍🏽
I'm having a 35 year later resurgence of my enjoyment with black powder guns.Revolvers,Break open long cartridge arms,canons.I find it about 20% energy of smokeless.Current fringe is 12 gauge .69 balls with 100 grains of homemade black behind it for serious plinking.
Super cheap to shoot when you pour your own lead.
I find that Pyrodex is harder to light off than BP. And Stainless has been a godsend with my black powder adventures.The #11 caps often fall off the # 10 stainless nipples.
You can get BP online for around $8 a pound,but you must designate that it is used for sporting purposes and not fireworks.From my understanding,BATFE limits residential storage to 50lbs.
You guys did pretty good for a BP primer!Thanks.
Great video! Thanks for all the information.
I'm just waiting for Eric to figure out a Black Powder load that will function an AR15 .. adjustable gas block.. buffer spring.. I know it's coming some day.. lmfao..
P.s that 1980's sexy symbol on the shirts is so tacticool! Tim is gonna love this!
Unfortunately black powder semi autos are not possible.
Ummm....300 aac blackout.
@@frankmcgarry3155 They are indeed possible, just not advisable.
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Would most probably take a duplex type of hybrid load of both a small charge of smokeless powder under a larger quantity of black powder.
Good presentation, but I think twist rates need to be mentioned, conicals need a faster twist rate of 1:28, though it could still be effective with a 1:48 twist, while round balls need a twist rate of 1:60, but could work from 1:48. Some manufacturers build rifles with a 1:48 twist to accomodate both types of projectiles. My CVA Hawken Woodsman is one example with a 1:48 twist, but I prefer round balls, it seems to load much easier and I get a fair accuracy with it.
Didn’t expect this one, love it!
Nice Tim shirts
MAC looks so different in the picture though
The size of the head on the shirt = the size of the man wearing it. Good work guys
Great info and advice cheers guys.
Thanks for the education. GREAT JOB! I may buy that Remington 1858.
Very impressive knowledge Eric
Old video but I'll comment anyway. There is real good information here. I am purchasing an 1860 army revolver just because they look cool and the history, of course. I'm no stranger to firearms but black powder is new to me. I found this video as part of my research before ordering supplies. Thanks for putting this out there. Very relevant to me.
Oh, and I've been a long time subscriber to both your channels.
Finally!!!!! A great video awesome job guys!
Love the Shirts!
Eric and Tim, both you guys are awesome.
concur
agreed, Awesome Show
I have a Ruger Old Army coming tomorrow. Going to read up as much as I can about blackpowder. This video helped, thanks!
awesome
Good video as a refresher for me. I have pretty much forgotten everything I knew about my Kentucky Rifle. I built the kit in 1979, shot if some and even took it to the woods. I need a How to Size your ball 101. I can't recall what size I used back then, it's a .44 or .45. A .448 ball will not quite drop into the bore, no patch. I'm thinking a .440 with the patch. Powder charge 101 would be nice as well. It's like I'm starting over. After over 40 years it's time to take it back to the woods.
I always use Ballistol in my BP guns before leaving the field.
Black powder AK meltdown to come soon!
Eric, we need a 45-70 loading vid! BP and smokeless.
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A lot of good information. Eric touched on measuring black powder by volume. The weights vary between different brands and types of black powder and black powder substitutes. For example, 20 grains of Goex FFFG does not weigh the same as 20 grains of Pyrodex-P or Triple-7 FFFG. Gun manufacturers usually provide loading data for their black powder firearms, as do the powder manufacturers.
Thank you
Hey Eric... Would you be inclined to do a reloading video pertaining to copper plated bullets in popular calibers like 9mm ? Not a whole lot of info on copper plated loads.
Eric & Mike are great Americans. Love the Tim tee shirts!
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I suggest that you check up the pressure curves of the powders ! Black powders build up pressure SLOWER, not faster.
Perfect timing just got a Kentucky long rifle as my first black powder gun this video helped a lot... Thanks to the both of you
You're welcome 👍🏽
Nice video! None of the powders I usually use (because of availability in my region) were rated. I usually use Go-ex as real black and triple 7 as substitute! In my experience those 2 also work fine just like the ones you presented! There's also a lot of shooters( not me yet) that make their own BP!
Here it is October 2020 and I’m wishing you guys would do more collaboration videos.
I cleaned my silencerco maxim 50 with vinegar and didn't neutralize it with baking soda. So now it rusts immediately and very often. I check it weekly when I haven't shot it in a while. Daily for a week after I shoot it.
Love those shirts great video good to see yall in one together
Thank you
Thanks guys great message 👍
Love my Civil War Pedersoli 1861 2 band Enfield.A faithful replica.
Very nicely done, very informative
Thank you
Great video! You rock
My dad swears by using Blackhorn 209 powder. Says it is just like regular gunpowder. Use sol event and oil to clean and lasts longer when storing. Have to use real shotgun primers, though. You guys should try it. My dad says it just works.
Explained so well. Thanks
Video quality is so clean 😍
What a collaboration awesome
I learned a lot. Thank you.
You're welcome 👍🏽
Due to the lack of components for reloading I learned to make my own black powder. One of the first things I learned was that it is not actually called black powder, it's called gun powder. Modern powder is called smokeless powder. The fun for me was making charcoal from different woods and trying to make the fastest powder I could. It is not as dirty as simulated powders and is quite powerful. Caps are next. I also tried different methods to granulate the powder. For instance I found that corning the powder does makes a denser powder but the extra work wasn't worth it for me.
One of the best tips I've seen for reloading caps is that you should cut out a circle from a match striker strip that can lay down flat against the bottom of the primer cup, before filling the cup up with match head powder. much more reliable than scraping the powder off the strip and mixing them.
The dream team of gun video guys!
Hickok45 would be the last person I looked to for advice on black powder firearms.
Great overview, thanks
Thank you
Thanks for the info guys
You're welcome 👍🏽
Black powder charge does not explode in the chamber unless you fail to seat the bullet. It actually has a gentler pressure curve and generally self limits pressure. The pressure on black powder slows the burn where as smokeless powder increases burn with pressure. (Not advised) You can verify this by pouring out equal lines of smokeless and black powder and doing an open air burn. The black powder will flash burn while the smokeless burns slowly.
When I was in an explosives class I learned that the velocity of the burn of an explosive determines whether it is high explosive or just an explosive. So anfo has to have a high explosive to ignite it.
I use a mix of Murphy’s oil soap, hydrogen peroxide, and 90% isopropyl alcohol ( equal parts) mixed together. Add a few ounces to a quart of boiling water then clean away. Plug the flash port with tooth pick then completely fill the barrel and let soak for about an hour before cleaning.
Great point on Black Powder have separate hunting seasons. In NC you can hunt (2) weeks before the snipers hit the woods. Advantages;
Deer aren't as spooked
Less hunters
Disadvantages:
Weather issues, rain is your enemy
Distance you can shoot
Cleaning requirements
Safety issues ( Don't put the 209 cap on until your in the stand or in position to shoot).
I have hunted with MZ for years and it is my favorite form of hunting. One safety trick I have learn is to use your ram rod as an safety. When you load your MZ make sure you score ( mark) your ram rod for a loaded weapon. This comes into play WHEN you forgot if your MZ is loader or not.
Morden day MZ ( inline ones) can be accessed by the breech to clean and checked. You don't want to double load or forget your MZ is loaded. Some people will fire a cap to prime their bore. It could be a bad day if you forget it is loaded.
Great video both of you and thanks always for sharing your knowledge with us!
Semper Fi
You guys are really informative. I grew up around weapons I live here in Idaho now my father was from Idaho we lived in California for a long time my mother was from Idaho also we lived in California I moved back here when I was 19 on 50 years old now but there's always something I can learn I didn't know this about black powder myself particular but when asking my father about it he's like he knew all about it he just didn't teach it to us cuz he didn't think there was a point in it since they used modern projectiles and modern rounds or bullets or whatever. I currently don't have a gun myself haven't really been into it I'm not a big huge guy that's got to have guns. But I certainly don't think that you know gun should be banned either I think I think every American every household should have owned a weapon anyways but that's just my personal belief. But like I said thank you so much for the video keep making videos
Great video
I don't know anything about black powder and honestly don't have much interest in it. But Mrgunsngear and IV8888 together I have no choice but to watch and enjoy. Thanks guys!
Thank you
Love me some black powder. Have you ever made your own black powder. That would be great to see. Maybe also some flintlock
Love the vid, it’s just funny seeing/hearing Eric “schooling” someone who knows probably the most about firearms on RUclips.
Thank you; everyone has their niche
Great info! Thanks!
Thank you
Very good information in this! love my black powder guns. only exception to this vid would be is real Black Powder is easier to ignite than any substitute. Easy way to test this is shoot a flintlock!
Thank you
Good stuff. Well done.
Thank you
Wow, very enlightening. I am new to black powder, and I didn't realize how much is involved with it. Watching your video, I learned a lot, and was impressed at your level of knowledge and ability to explain it in a clear and thorough way. Not sure if black powder will be my new favorite hobby, but at least I have a better understanding of it. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video. It was definitely worth it.
Great video!
Thank you
I have old baker gun co Batavia leader double barrel shotgun steel barrels in very good condition tight action I tried regular 12g shot shells no problem but i want to use black powder to be more safe what powder do you recommend I reload for this shotgun for bird hunting # 7 and #7-1/2?
Thank you
We have a Black powder Gun shop here, and can by anything we want.
nice
In Wi the deer rifle season is 1 week what ever you want and the 2nd week is muzzle loader only. I don't know anyone who does not use pellets/white hots.
Real black powder hunting died years ago. The inlines ruined everything. Imo
I’m hearing a lot about advantges of using ffff in .31-caliber pocket Colts. Is there a load size or type of black powder that starts getting iffy for safety reasons? Thanks for a great video!
Added to my after work YT cue!
Thank you
Great informative training for us uneducated citizens for black powder and related weaponery! Thank you! I am 69 years old, so I was not in the 1845 military campaigns, darn it!
Thank you
the flash suppressor ( flash deflector ) is to deflect the muzzle flash away from the sight picture of the shooters eye so that it doesn't night blind that area of the shooters sight picture when shooting at night or low light ! it doesn't and can't hide the flash from the enemy ! it only deflects the flash away from the top of the muzzle away from the shooters sight picture ! if it is installed correctly !
Thanks guys
I recently bought my first inline muzzleloader. It's built to use a 209 primer and the owners manual says to use pyrodex triple 7s or similar. Unfortunately I had already bought imr white hots before I read the manual like an idiot. I've got mixed review on whether or not I am ok to use the white hots. Any professional advice on that? I'd appreciate good feedback thanks
I have been shooting black powder for 40 years. I shoot period guns. Cap and ball. Hawken rifle mostly or some version. Thompson Center was my maker of choice untill the factory burned down. You can still get black powder but when you find it stock up. You can make your own but it is not as easy as it may seem on RUclips. You will never forget the smell of real black powder.
I tried using the pyrodex in my .50 cal hawken rifle but the caps would not set it off... nothing wrong with nipple and access port. Had to pull bullet and pour it out of gun..... never had that problem with fff regular black powder.
I cant bring myself to use pyrodex. If I couldn't find Blackpowder in my area maybe I'd change my tune. But I can buy it in my area.
I just got a tompson center renegade muzzleloader 50 cal . What caps and powered should I use ? I live in an apartment. So i need a black powerd thats safe. Thank you
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These 2 DVDs contain a demonstration of using Low Pressure Smokeless Loads in a 50 caliber factory muzzleloader, that are equal to or less pressure than that of Blackhorn209.
The 777 209 primers are not as hot as regular 209 shotgun primers. The regular 209's were found to push the load before ignition. That's why you will see inconsistencies. Sometimes it pushes the load sometimes not. So the 777 are loaded lighter to just ignite and not push.
I'm here after I found Dave Canterbury's videos on using a single shot 12 gauge as a muzzleloader
I was waiting on your coverage of the buffalo rifles
That shirt is amazing. Haha Tim 😂😂
I learned how to make true black powder from the school library in the eight grade . Three equal parts of sulfur , salt peter an charcoal ! You can use charcoal Kingsford charcoal bricketes BBQ after the charcoal is ground up alone by itself then mixed together
THANKS!
got a cva wolf shooting two 50grain pettets with a powerbelt hollow point 295 grain also have 245 grain copper aero tip at 20 yards how high should i sight in to be dead on at 100 yards at 20 yards shooting at 20 yards is all i have in my back yard for both bullets please i has a konus shot scope 3by9by32 thanks deer season starts nov 7th with a muzzle loader in tn please all the help is appriciated cody