I hated it at first cause of the fast robotic voice, but now i come to learn how to adjust the speed and the voice itself too to something more easier to listen to .. i love it now and am very happy i kept trying and didnt give up i get to use my pc again like i use to before i lost eye sight.
I'm just getting started with using NVDA for my work to test web accessibility. I thought it would have more of its own tutorial to learn, hence why I'm learning on RUclips. How all did you learn how to use yours to adjust the speed and voice for NVDA if you don't mind sharing your learned knowledge?
@@sh-tlcpl hello, a quick way to change voice and speaking rate is hold down ctrl + insert key and use your cursor keys left or right to select the setting and then up or down to change the value , the insert key is thenvda modifier key, i have that setting changed in the nvda settings to caplocks key that seems a lot easier . Greets Mak :)
Tried NVDA. IT seems to react on anything I do, typing a letter, moving my mouse... but NOT when browsing a webpage haha. When I'm on a site, it says nothing. When I press H, it simply says "H".
yeah, combine voice from M$ Win's built-in Narrator and NVDA functionality please :) EDIT: under Windows, you can change synthesizer settings in the program to MS Speech API or even download addons for more options
Good Parts NVDA supports tons of different voices. from what I get from the literature and my experience with people that use such software the "robotic" has the main advantage to speed it up once you are used to it.
Thomas Knott Yeah, when we use screen readers (I’m legally blind, so I can speak from personal experience) we get rather capable at figuring out what the screen reader is trying to say. You learn the quirks, of them and adjust, laugh at some of the amusing mispronunciations, I’ve recently started speeding up my screen reader more (I happen to be on an iPad using VoiceOver, but these sorts of things become fairly universal. At this point I usually have to slow it down if I want someone who’s not a screen reader user quite a lot. But yes, the more robotic voices in scren readers tend to be more intelligible at higher speeds because of the way they tend to emphasise syllables and sounds, which really helps when running at some of the really insane speeds. The Microsoft voices are rather nice though.
The only real "bad" thing is that NVDA truly dows not support the business apps most professionals need you to use on a regular basis. Microsoft Office may be one thing. but for other, say, development environments where you're writing code/drawing controls, NVDA kinda wasn't meant for that. Plus, a lot of businesses don't like using open-source software; it gives them the impression we're cheating to get their work done.
I can't listen to the books opened in Adobe digital edition. Nvda reads only paragraphs or single words. Why is it no longer possible to set a continuous reading, which continue until the interrupt command? Why is it not possible to do this anymore? The alternative would be to unlock the book, turn it into txt and read it, but I prefer not doing this. Thanks
Good morning, i am using nvda and it works very good in all apps but does not work well in google chrome, in firefox or edge it is ok. Why this problems? Thank you very much
@@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 After many months using nvda i have understood how to use this wonderful program. I started using it like a visually impaired, using it with the magnifier, now i use it with the keyboard and it is very useful. Thanks very much with the community that realized this project
@@alessio11087 Please make a video explaining the program if you can. I am trying to help my client out. I am very interested in learning how to use these programs.
I have a mobile applications , At some page in our app we have cards, Cards itself is clickable and have some buttons and clickable elements also. if we make card role="button" then we can not select any element inside the card, any other role to card will not make card clickable . Can this type of functionality is achievable via accessebilty. any pointers for this would be of great help.
That's an anti pattern. Do the links inside the card go to the same location as clicking on the card? If so, use a pseudo element on the link that takes up the whole card to make it clickable. Don't go changing roles or placing links within links/buttons
Currently learning jaws for work and school but I'll probably learn nvda so I can buy a laptop. I doubt I'll get another free license and there's no way I'm paying for jaws myself.
If you want to 'click' an icon on your desktop with keyboard, press the key that corresponds to the first letter of the icon, for example, if I want to click 'Blender' I can press 'b', if there are multiple icons starts with letter b it will cycle through them, I hope this is helpful
I know this sounds like a stupid question, but how do you get NVDA to read the content? All I can get it to do is navigate and read headings and links. I can't seem to figure out how to get it to read through the content of a website.
I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. Jaws for Windows's very own license says you're not allowed to use the demonstration (40-minute) edition for web accessibility/testing of any kind. Plus, that's a hell of a price tag. $995 just to buy, then a mandatory $200 per year for the Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA)? I kinda think not... NVDA from NVAccess: 1 JFW from Vispero: 0
You sure you're not talking about the windows narrator? That can't be uninstalled because it comes with windows, NVDA can be uninstalled just like any other program.
My father inlaw has tasked me with researching this program. He is completing blind and wanted to know if this program would work for him. Question 2 what type of computer would be recommended and the windows version.
You don't need a super powerful machine but you will need a good amount of RAM so be sure to have 8 gigs or more, other than that any basic computer should work okay. You don't need lot's of memory for the program, it's just always better to have extra ram running windows. There is no need to go out and buy a new machine to do this. Good luck.
I like this but realize that one's capacity to navigate seems to require sight of the page layout to know what keys to engage to engage the content. Is there option for a feature that speaks the page layout on load so the sight challenged person can then know where to begin? Or did I miss that :)
Orca comes included out of the box. I can't testify to how well it works for having not used Linux so you're on your onw there. If for some wacky reason your screen or video card corrupted, you can hold down the Super key, than tap the letter s, then let go of the Super key. The voice is going to be fairly foreign to you if you've never heard it; As per someone like me, I'm totally used to it. It's a stand-alone open-source synthesizer called ESpeak. It in its own right can be bent and insanely contorted to sound very wacky ways. I was on a TeamTalk voice chat server with a few friends; Out of nowhere, one of them fires up NVDA and has ESpeak redone to sound like it's a fake Southern voice, complete with the ing sounding like in'! 7 swans a-swimmin', anyone?
Sorry forgot to explain that! According to the web aim survey on screen reader usage (webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey6/) NVDA is most commonly used with Firefox.
As a person who has low-vision, I use NVDA from entertainment to work and everything in between. NVDA actually works well, if not better than it does with Firefox! NVDA even performs faster with Chrome!
I hated it at first cause of the fast robotic voice, but now i come to learn how to adjust the speed and the voice itself too to something more easier to listen to .. i love it now and am very happy i kept trying and didnt give up i get to use my pc again like i use to before i lost eye sight.
I'm just getting started with using NVDA for my work to test web accessibility. I thought it would have more of its own tutorial to learn, hence why I'm learning on RUclips. How all did you learn how to use yours to adjust the speed and voice for NVDA if you don't mind sharing your learned knowledge?
@@sh-tlcpl hello, a quick way to change voice and speaking rate is hold down ctrl + insert key and use your cursor keys left or right to select the setting and then up or down to change the value , the insert key is thenvda modifier key, i have that setting changed in the nvda settings to caplocks key that seems a lot easier . Greets Mak :)
not sure if this was the default nvda voice back in the day, but NVDA doesn't sound like this today.
Very helpful. thanks
Google! Help them with the voice!
They can't.
That is an open-source speech engine called ESpeak.
He was strictly using default as default settings can get.
Nvda is way better than jaws... nice vid👍🏻
Tried NVDA. IT seems to react on anything I do, typing a letter, moving my mouse... but NOT when browsing a webpage haha. When I'm on a site, it says nothing. When I press H, it simply says "H".
Have you solved this issue?
i love NVDA 😊
Why does it sound such... Robotic? Could an author use Web Speech API or... Microsoft Zira, hmm.
yeah, combine voice from M$ Win's built-in Narrator and NVDA functionality please :) EDIT: under Windows, you can change synthesizer settings in the program to MS Speech API or even download addons for more options
Good Parts NVDA supports tons of different voices. from what I get from the literature and my experience with people that use such software the "robotic" has the main advantage to speed it up once you are used to it.
Thomas Knott Yeah, when we use screen readers (I’m legally blind, so I can speak from personal experience) we get rather capable at figuring out what the screen reader is trying to say. You learn the quirks, of them and adjust, laugh at some of the amusing mispronunciations, I’ve recently started speeding up my screen reader more (I happen to be on an iPad using VoiceOver, but these sorts of things become fairly universal. At this point I usually have to slow it down if I want someone who’s not a screen reader user quite a lot. But yes, the more robotic voices in scren readers tend to be more intelligible at higher speeds because of the way they tend to emphasise syllables and sounds, which really helps when running at some of the really insane speeds.
The Microsoft voices are rather nice though.
The only real "bad" thing is that NVDA truly dows not support the business apps most professionals need you to use on a regular basis.
Microsoft Office may be one thing. but for other, say, development environments where you're writing code/drawing controls, NVDA kinda wasn't meant for that.
Plus, a lot of businesses don't like using open-source software; it gives them the impression we're cheating to get their work done.
@@BlindLibrary Which is why JAWS exists and why a license costs an arm and a leg.
I can't listen to the books opened in Adobe digital edition. Nvda reads only paragraphs or single words.
Why is it no longer possible to set a continuous reading, which continue until the interrupt command? Why is it not possible to do this anymore?
The alternative would be to unlock the book, turn it into txt and read it, but I prefer not doing this. Thanks
Thank you for sharing. This can help some students with disabilities. Kingston, Jamaica
Any advice on how software to read from a printed page of paper?
Could you make a video on closing tabs and navigating the Internet
how to make nvda read texts with direct links followed by links and highlighted words not pausing anymore?
Good morning, i am using nvda and it works very good in all apps but does not work well in google chrome, in firefox or edge it is ok. Why this problems?
Thank you very much
Mostly nvda use for edge and chrome, jaws for firefox and chrome
@@kbtkitchenbeautytech4246 After many months using nvda i have understood how to use this wonderful program. I started using it like a visually impaired, using it with the magnifier, now i use it with the keyboard and it is very useful.
Thanks very much with the community that realized this project
@@alessio11087 Please make a video explaining the program if you can. I am trying to help my client out. I am very interested in learning how to use these programs.
You use him I use Anna I am learning how to use nada without my computer screen on because of my vision impairment
I have a mobile applications , At some page in our app we have cards, Cards itself is clickable and have some buttons and clickable elements also. if we make card role="button" then we can not select any element inside the card, any other role to card will not make card clickable .
Can this type of functionality is achievable via accessebilty. any pointers for this would be of great help.
That's an anti pattern. Do the links inside the card go to the same location as clicking on the card? If so, use a pseudo element on the link that takes up the whole card to make it clickable. Don't go changing roles or placing links within links/buttons
Currently learning jaws for work and school but I'll probably learn nvda so I can buy a laptop. I doubt I'll get another free license and there's no way I'm paying for jaws myself.
jaws is too expensive. love nvda 😉
Jaws is annoying! Hey guys! You should check out jaws for windows is a murderer! It is so funny.
in denmark Jaws cost about 2400 dollars and 500 dollars pr. upgrade
@@clausskovcaspersen2667 free versions also their nvda jaws
Yes Jaws is way too expensive, NVDA can do pretty much everything Jaws can and it's free.
Nice video, but one thing that would probably be really useful to know is how to get to icons on the desktop using NVDA.
What you mean? Turn the icons accessible by landmarking it/giving it a accessible name?
If you want to 'click' an icon on your desktop with keyboard, press the key that corresponds to the first letter of the icon, for example, if I want to click 'Blender' I can press 'b', if there are multiple icons starts with letter b it will cycle through them, I hope this is helpful
I dont know why my NVDA doesnt read some texts, I need to manually switch modes. Also shortcuts doesnt work (like arrows or H)
I know this sounds like a stupid question, but how do you get NVDA to read the content? All I can get it to do is navigate and read headings and links. I can't seem to figure out how to get it to read through the content of a website.
Use speech viewer you can get content what nvda is narrating
H foe headings l for links in nvda
Once you get to a heading you're interested in, use the down arrow to read the content beneath it
Is there a setting I can use to turn off reading what my mouse hovers over? I only downloaded this to read pdf files and paragraph blocks.
I don't like e speak voices.
They are just annoying.
That needs to be fixed, and fast.
Is it possible in NVDA to turn off keyboard key presses? So that only what is on the pages themselves or on the desktop is voiced.
very helpful! is there a similar video for JAWS?
I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
Jaws for Windows's very own license says you're not allowed to use the demonstration (40-minute) edition for web accessibility/testing of any kind.
Plus, that's a hell of a price tag.
$995 just to buy, then a mandatory $200 per year for the Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA)?
I kinda think not...
NVDA from NVAccess: 1
JFW from Vispero: 0
H does nothing for me
Thank you
Hey folks. Do you know what is that mean: "validating a ~ 9 WCAG guidelines web page page" ?
I'm getting nuts hearing that robot voice for more than two minutes.
how to activate focus mode in nvda
Insert+space at a time or esc key
Laura Causeway
I can't belive that a chrome RUclips channel is using an other browser.
What option or alternative do we have for MACbook?
VoiceOver.
@@soprano550 no. It doesn't read text on bottom arriw
@@mohak1990y That would be a site accessibility issue, then. Not necessarily a problem with VoiceOver.
How can I make a program like NVDA
Help me guys; Give me advice
Stopping NVDA talking does not work with pressing caps clock. Am I doing something wrong?
default NVDA key is 'insert' - you can assign the caps lock key when you first start the program
Anybody tail mi how to idit mujick audio half of n v d athank you
This vides are excellent!
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How do I delete this thing? There's no way to uninstall from Windows or anything. What a nightmare.
You sure you're not talking about the windows narrator? That can't be uninstalled because it comes with windows, NVDA can be uninstalled just like any other program.
My father inlaw has tasked me with researching this program. He is completing blind and wanted to know if this program would work for him. Question 2 what type of computer would be recommended and the windows version.
You don't need a super powerful machine but you will need a good amount of RAM so be sure to have 8 gigs or more, other than that any basic computer should work okay. You don't need lot's of memory for the program, it's just always better to have extra ram running windows. There is no need to go out and buy a new machine to do this. Good luck.
Nvda
Yeah, that's right?
Non, Visual, Desktop, Access.
It works like vi - yeah!
😂
How would a screen reader read a matching exercise in an online course?
I like this but realize that one's capacity to navigate seems to require sight of the page layout to know what keys to engage to engage the content. Is there option for a feature that speaks the page layout on load so the sight challenged person can then know where to begin? Or did I miss that :)
unusable
Nowadays Windows 10 has the narrator built into it, which can be accessed with Ctrl+Win+N
Control+Windows+Enter is the default command to turn on/off narrator
Is there a good screen reader for linux?
Orca comes included out of the box.
I can't testify to how well it works for having not used Linux so you're on your onw there.
If for some wacky reason your screen or video card corrupted, you can hold down the Super key, than tap the letter s, then let go of the Super key.
The voice is going to be fairly foreign to you if you've never heard it;
As per someone like me, I'm totally used to it.
It's a stand-alone open-source synthesizer called ESpeak.
It in its own right can be bent and insanely contorted to sound very wacky ways.
I was on a TeamTalk voice chat server with a few friends; Out of nowhere, one of them fires up NVDA and has ESpeak redone to sound like it's a fake Southern voice, complete with the ing sounding like in'!
7 swans a-swimmin', anyone?
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EndgAmer 👍
I only have a question. Why Firefox?
Sorry forgot to explain that! According to the web aim survey on screen reader usage (webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey6/) NVDA is most commonly used with Firefox.
As a person who has low-vision, I use NVDA from entertainment to work and everything in between. NVDA actually works well, if not better than it does with Firefox! NVDA even performs faster with Chrome!
Why d fok re u using mozila Firefox when yu re chrom developers
FireFox and its forks actually have Chrome protocol (and maybe even pieces of code from Chrome) in them, I think, but don't quote me.