as a black woman i don’t need to have anything in common with palestinians to support them. i’m human. they’re human. that’s enough for me to not want to see civilians suffer for the actions of a radical group
It's so strange that you quote the UN definition of genocide and disqualify it, while ignoring the fact that many UN officials are right now warning against a genocide, or a genocide in the making at the very least.
The threshold for genocide is high. That’s why the UN is able to avoid taking actions when inconvenient genocides have occurred in the past. The UN is a political organization time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/
If your argument starts and ends with anyone supporting Hamas and cheering for what happened on October 7th, I understand. But if it's meant to justify the "force of nature" styled terror being done in retaliation, I'm shocked, as a subscriber of yours for a while. Everyone has different morals, so moral arguments aside, what the Israeli government is doing is just as much a violation of international law as what Hamas did. The indiscriminate murder of innocent civilians is not justifiable according to international human rights laws. I was disgusted by October 7th for the same reason I'm disgusted by what has happened since. If the mainstream narrative was that all the conflicts you mentioned resulted in the justifiable, indiscriminate murders of civilians, with the funding and blessings of the US government, I'm sure many of the same people protesting for Palestinians would be just as engaged. Just as enraged. This should not be reduced to an "oppressed vs oppressor" narrative, regardless of its applicability. Israel has the right to defend itself, but not at the cost of over 12,000 civilian lives, while making no distinction between Palestinian civilians and Hamas combatants. Not at the cost of the substantial civilian infrastructure destroyed, or the over 1.5 million civilians who have been forced to relocate so that North Gaza could be leveled. There ARE antisemitic opportunists latching onto this moment, using it for their own objectives. But those focused on the deaths of the innocent are not antisemitic for criticizing the government carrying out these crimes, no more than I'm an Islamophobe for recognizing the events of October 7th as a crime against humanity as well.
My argument doesn’t start and end with Oct 7 was bad, but it starts there. You have a right to think what you want about me, but I have to get facts in order. This isn’t a both sides are just as bad issue. There’s no evidence Israel is targeting indiscriminately or trying to hurt civilians. They’re getting hurt in the process. That’s not against international law. Hamas is using children as human shields and no, we don’t have to care about others children as much as our own. They are warning people to leave, which most countries won’t do. Social media is not being fair on this issue, nor is the international community.
@@MayeMuses If there was a member of Hamas in an apartment building full of civilians in the United States you wouldn’t accept it if the US military destroyed the entire apartment building just to kill that member of Hamas. If the US did that instead of taking a more precise approach you would accuse them of not caring about the civilians in that building. Which is what most people are pointing to as the evidence that they are indiscriminately targeting civilians. There’s also more evidence that they are targeting Palestinian civilians because they’ve been bombing and establishing settlements in the West Bank where Hamas is not located.
The human shields argument is ridiculous. If someone has a hostage do you go through the hostage to get to them? No. So if it’s true that they’re using people as shields it’s still not justified to kill those people.
To clarify, the reason why so many people support Palestine regardless of their more conservative ideologies is because advocacy of other’s human rights doesn’t stop because they supposedly don’t agree with lgbtq rights, women’s rights, etc. Not only does that boil all of them down to being a single monolith who all think and feel the same about every issue, but queer Palestinians and queer Muslims still exist. Not to mention these are still literal human beings. Moreover, Israel still very much has infrastructure, electricity, normal society, while Palestine is being leveled to the ground, people trapped under rubble, and entire bloodlines erased. People are actively mocking their eradication. The Israeli government is intentionally committing war crimes against civilians and officials have boasted about offing every single last Palestinian. It’s also not true that people aren’t talking about other crimes against humanity that are happening in other parts of the world. This has sparked conversation about other tragedies such as what’s going on in Congo. To the point where even celebrities such as Dua Lipa havs questioned the CEO of Apple himself about unethical mining practices and exploitation of conflict in the area. People sharing tips on how to avoid purchasing new Apple products etc. Lastly although antisemitism has reared its ugly head in some spheres, so too has Islamophobia. Turns out when two groups of different religions fight each other, you get ignorance from both ends of the extreme. But to allude to antisemitism being the reason this situation got so big is a bit disappointing. People are upset because yet again we’re witnessing a colonial state manifest destiny its way through a land that was occupied by someone else already. When you have a government that’s actively trying to unalive an entire group of people, what else can you call it other than a g*nocide? Anyone would protest against that
i agree with everything you’ve said. HAMAS did evil absolutely and they must be held accountable for their actions on October 7. But it is not an excuse for mass murder. Christians really should be praying and promoting a ceasefire to preserve life. Idk this video wasn’t really it. This is unjustified.
@@MayeMuses They're not using human shields. That makes no sense. Israel, and the international community that has been involved on the ground for years, have produced no evidence of these so called massive interconnected network of tunnels in Palestine nor Egypt. That would be an incredibly hard secret to hold given the amount of people needed to create such a system. Israel used this exact same human shield argument in the last skirmish with Hamas, only that time it was every school (a war crime) and apartment building they demolished were secretly Hamas headquarters hiding underground tunnels. Hamas is a monster that Israel helped create. Period. They chose the worst option as a means of eventually either controlling Gaza or justifying its total elimination. “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists." theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/ This is all beside the very point that what Israel suffered on Oct 7 it has done to Palestine almost every day since 1947. Hamas has been accused on using human shields by a country that has been arming illegal settlers and annexing Palestinian land for them to live on who then getting into altercations with those Palestinians and are absolved when they shoot them to death. Israel lies. Period.
@@MayeMuses Your argument to justify war and killing of innocent civilians is ridiculous. So Hamas are using human shields. Do you think they will be hiding in plain sight? So disappointed to see you falling for propaganda. There are no simple solutions, but war is NEVER the answer. Sad for your newborn child to be raised by a war-mongering mother.
@@MayeMuses but notice I have not mentioned Hamas. Because that’s not who the Israeli government is targeting. At least that’s not all they’re targeting. They are actively killing innocent civilians. Whether or not you believe it’s intentional (judging by the Israeli government’s words and beliefs, I have a hard time believing it’s anything but intentional) what stands is that the death toll the Israeli government has inflicted on this group within just one month is astronomical. It’s completely reckless and unethical. Not to mention, shutting off water, electricity, etc. is quite literally a war crime. Because that doesn’t just affect Hamas, but innocent people as well. I’m sorry, but if Hamas was the only problem, literally any sane person would know that as a global superpower, this act of retaliation is a complete dumpster fire and a clear indication of just how sinister colonial states can be. Hamas didn’t start in a vacuum. It was created as a direct result of Israeli occupation. Colonization will always be the first act of violence as in itself it’s inherently an offensive act.
To be honest I was really looking forwards to your take on this but to see you have fallen in Israel’s propaganda and are using the human shields argument … I now know to be careful what I wish for.I’ll be looking forwards to your update video in the future when you backtrack tho😅
@@andrewjoyner4133hamas is a terror group most gazans alive now didn’t even vote for. Not a powerful western nation and ally like Israel. Are we to hold them to the same standards?
It's always good to hear you're take on issues because they're always unique but I have to disagree with you on this video. First, I believe that Hamas is solely responsible for what's happening in Gaza, they full well understood the power of their enemy and still attacked them with no plan or care for their own people. In wars that predated ww2, Israel's response would be justified but in today's climate it's too cruel to justify. After ww2 the international community had to write new articles to protect civilians from mass casualty during war, specifically children. All of your mentions of war ending tactics predate that convention and is why so many people (including the UN and Humanitarian groups like the red cross) are against Israel's tactics. Anybody with sense would agree that Israel has a right to defend itself but it does not have a right to cut off fuel, food, and clean drinking water to a territory it controls. This isn't a war between two powerful nations like the US vs Japan but a retaliation on terrorist group inside of a controlled closed border territory that Israel has control over. 11,000+ people have been killed (alot of them innocent meaning regardless of view points they are civilians not soldiers) with over 3,000 of them being children over the span of a month, no matter how you look at it that's a lot of people regardless of the size of the population. In today's world I don't think it's too outlandish to say that we should find other ways to deradicalize a people without always resorting to extreme violence to complete the goal. Especially when it isn't a country you're fighting against but a closed border territory that Israel has the right to control what goes in and out, as well as if it has food, water, and fuel. There were better ways to deal with terrorist and Israel chose a very violent method to go with. And to your point of who takes lunch breaks in a war, in the Battle of Mogadishu while the Americans and Somalis were fighting, a donkey walked in between the battlefield. He walked by twice and both times the Somalis and Americans both agreed to a ceasefire to let the donkey pass and started fighting again once it was safely out of the way. There can be moments of humanity in war but it doesn't make it any less cruel.
I don’t think there should ever be any question mark after Not supporting the mass murdering// displacement //harassment of innocent men women and children.
“An entire nation committing suicide by cop” is completely bonkers and disgusting. There are many many reasons this situation is different from a suicide by cop, I’ll just point out that most Gazan citizens had literally nothing to do with that attack. Hard to believe people are out here trying to justify literal crimes against humanity. Israel obviously just wanted to take Gaza anyway, which is what this is all about. Kind of extremely obvious. I’m just gonna assume there is a legitimate reason for this wild level of bias and move on. Just gonna point out how ridiculous it is to cite a poll conducted while the country is being brutally bombed and ethnically cleansed…wtf.
Opinion polls show otherwise. Do you dispute them? Plus, if we sent an invasion force of 360,000 (the equivalent for our pop), we could NOT argue that we as a people were not complicit.
nah bro u don't get it. they asked to be occupied by the Israelis and have their water and electricity shut off while simultaneously being referred to as "human animals" something wrong wit her, must got hijacked by a zionist brain virus
@@MayeMuses Well, I do have questions about the validity, the accuracy, and how these polls were conducted given the current situation in Gaza. But that’s not even the most important concern right now, the poll could very well be accurate, it could also be IDF propaganda. To me it’s far more important to point out that Hamas was elected in 2006 with less than a *majority of the population and the citizens have not even had the chance to vote them out since then. I believe at least half of the current population was not even near voting age at that time, let alone the many who weren’t even alive in 2006. The response to 10/7 is collective punishment by definition, you are not even disputing that, only attempting to justify it. Collective punishment is a war crime under the Geneva convention. An opinion poll does not change that.
Huh how do you advocate for America being the world police but then say Americans shouldn't push their values and ways of thought on to others. That does make sense
By now this take has passed aged milk status and has become moldy cheese. I'd hoped you'd have also followed your own advice, 'getting out of your bubble." Nothing wrong with changing your views based on new information. Genocide however is wrong, and couldn't change my mind about that.@@MayeMuses
@@HGFields That's crazy. Did they give the hostages back and surrender in your bubble? No? That's the way to end this, and it has been since Oct 7, so not much actually has changed.
Yes I suppose. I mean 30,000+ civilians murdered by the IDF. Several million people who've since lost their families, homes, livelihoods and now on the cusp of famine certainly found that a lot has changed since Oct7. It's sounds to me as though you believe this to be a just response. Considering the IDF shot a few of said hostages, I'm not really sure that they were ever really a concern so much as a prop to support and further their expansionist campaign. The fact that Israeli intelligence knew about the attack way before it happened and could have thus prevented it should perhaps have given off some red flags, if even one. I can't imagine why with all the information out there (believe it or not, outside of my bubble too) one would choose willful ignorance. That's what I find crazy.
Bruh it was spoiled as soon as it was posted. No one batted an eye when thousands of Palestinians were captured over the years but now taking hostages means u can kill as many people as u want. U can reduce a city to rubble. The funny thing alot of the families of the hostages don't think like this. Some families believe the Israeli gov dont care about their family. Most hate the approach of the gov becuz truth is IDF has been killing hostages along with Palestinian civilians. They did so on Oct 7th too. Sadly some won't see until later. This is how history unfolds.
For the first time, I'm disagreeing with your take. Not that it matters. I just think this dismisses the origin of this war and the previous ones in the first place. I do think that overall, blowing up innocent people to get your point across under the guise of "protecting" a nation is an ouroboros of chaos and utter bullsh*t. War is obviously outdated. However, it has been very clear that Israel has the support and the ability to make things right more so than Palestine. Unless, we're simply not reading the same thing, it appears that Palestine is reacting to the injustice they've been enduring for what? 80+ years??
That's if you assume that Israel was the aggressor for the past 80 years, and they weren't. The 1948 war was defensive, and there were pogroms before that even, most notably in 1929. They were driven out of the rest of the Middle East as well. Also, at the end of WWI, numerous new states were formed from the collapsing empires. I don't see how Israel would have been much different except the constant hostility they faced from their neighbors. Honestly, I feel the Palestinians have been used by other nations and causes as a tool, and no one really thinks of their best interest. Now, the population is unwilling to share the land, and they don't have a path to victory. This is geo-political yass-lighting from people with no skin in the game, rn the "free Palestine" protesters who are asking them to die for generations rather than accept the inevitable, like hundreds of peoples have done. It would hurt the ego at first, but their kids would actually have a life.
@@MayeMuses Extrapolate your thoughts to face the other direction. Israel was the nation installed by other nations as a tool. They were deliberately advanced by the west to have more than just sticks and stones and given leniency to subject the population for generations so they wouldn’t collapse the same way. They're are positioned the same way American Settlers had the advancement of guns and explosives vs the bows and arrows equipped by American Indians, including the decades of subjection to a population/"death by a thousands cuts" where they inevitably create their own monster too create the justification of a war they wanted from the start that would allow them to wipe them out. All because they didn't worship the mightier power and allow them to take land they already occupied because why would they. Hamas knew they could never win any war, but they could win attention and expose just how sadistic their subjugators are under the optics of a hyper-connected post pandemic world where the extend of humanitarian crimes and the west's involvement couldn’t go unnoticed, unaddressed, and unpolarized. Who would want to associate themselves with a country that tortures a city full of civilians like sadists in the open day? "Free Palestine" spawns because people also pick up and notice the rhetoric Israel (and western officials) use towards the Palestinian people (like labeling them "animals", refusing to recognize them as a state, refusing to see eye to eye with their "demands" for empathy and liberty) are able to draw parallels to the rhetoric and subjection they recognize and face in their own land being _____ minority/underclass people.
Somebody is on the wrong side of history. I’m pretty conservative and I can see that 😂. I’d never left my disdain of the far left make me support ethnic cleansing.
You said a lot and said nothing. The people of Gaza are not all Hamas.Thw Palestinians are people,l. You say you're a black american, ok. Your ancestors that were brought here were called property, not even a human being. The indigenous people of America were called animals, savages, barbarians.Hotler even labeled the Jewish people the same. The reason why people are dialed in now, and are pro Palestine, is because, people aren't as stupid anymore. Congratulations, you will have your video and your words in history
@maye to answer your question of: What does that means...... Free Palestine means: 1. Those so-called (Jews) or clearly not indigenous to the land. 2. No matter of what ENTITY gave them the land back in 1948 or whenever does it ACTUALLY make it there's.... 3. The actual indigenous people of the land don't need a doggone reason to tell you it's their land and to please stop oppressing them
The wrong reaction of the "pro-Palestinians" should not determine how you approach the matter. This did NOT start on the 7th of october. It began in the early 1900s and reached a huge climax in 1947. Eastern "anti-semitism" is NOT the same as western antisemitism. For us it is about an illegal occupation of a Land where people lived before western colonialist forces decided to "solve" their 2000 year old western anti-semitism by forcing the Js onto another people they had no positive feelings for as well. For europeans it is about 2000 years of pogroms, conspiracy theories, blaming pests and economic collapses, blaming the "Great Replacement" onto the Js, claiming them to be under-humans and that exterminating them is therefore "okay." Anti-Semitism has different meanings depending on the perspective and angle it comes from.
Hatred of Jews is still hatred of Jews. The murder of Jews by the Muslim prophet Muhammad, the abuse Jews faced under the Ottoman empire, in addition to the forced exhale of Sephardic and Mizahri Jews is not made insignificant because Europeans have committed acts of violence. Your attempt to rewrite Jewish history is pathetic.
Thank you for your summary of the situation. Glad that you are back in the saddle with your commentaries after bringing in to this world a beautiful boy. Most younger people do not understand the concept of war. Your reference to General Sherman, who was a major player in the Civil War and the Indian wars in following decades, is refreshing. His speeches, given later in life, made clear what war was and he made clear that it would be with us until motives deep in human natures changed. He told young military cadets that it was an unfortunate result of human nature that their services might one day be needed.
Truly well said. I found this channel looking for information on John Brown, found the video on the Good Lord Bird and am so glad I did. One thing I'd ask is, aside from the weakness of the UN, when looking at how the UNGA and various committees have been handling this conflict for years, how would they have any credibility anyway?
I am highly disappointed by your lack of facts and indepth information. You don't even sound like someone who's actually read about or even lived this situation first-hand. I beg you to do more research on this topic because you are missing a lot of key facts, specifically to which sides (multiple culprits)nhave power and which sides are being oppressed. This doesn't start or begin with Palestine alone. Those in the power positions are oppressing more countries, more lands, including Palestine. Watching this made me realize you really don't have a grasp on the world and your views are extremely isolated to country you live in, and probably smaller, like the group of people you surround yourself by. See the world beyond you narrowed peripherals. Please! Maybe the cult research is clouding your view on reality.
This video is specifically about Gaza/Israel. This is not about oppression around the world. One problem I point out is that people try to conflate all these issues, and somehow all of their frustrations w the world are taken out on this situation, specifically Israel. Israel comes to (unfairly) represent all injustice and that does not hold up to any scrutiny. If you have a problem w the video, point out a specific time stamp and question the research. Also, I specifically point out that the “free Palestine” crowd conveniently does not care about other injustices around the world, esp if it messes w their little conveniences, like iPhones.
@@MayeMuses There's a lot of generalizations, conspiracies, & biases on your end, even in this response. You generalize the meaning of "Free Palestine'' w/o going beyond the hashtag and algorithms. You mention one side not accepting, or being open to, LGBTQIA+ and Women Rights, when all the countries involved process and create laws from a patriarchal religious viewpoint (US included). You say what Israel is doing is a "force of nature", but then condemn their retaliator as if they are worse. It's like you missed where this all started and focused on shaming the people responding to tyranny. You minimize the history of how Palestine got colonized by the west in order to create Israel, & how the west is still supporting Israel to completely wipe out Palestine, as if the Israeli government and its supporters are innocent in this all. When has the occupancy of indigenous land ever been positive? Or do you believe it's meant to be because you’re Zionist and this form of colonization is cool? You go in and out of generalizing and minimizing the idea of war, stigmatizing the people who you believe aren’t educated enough on the issue, then excusing and minimizing the actions of the Western and Israeli government for their involvement in the Colonization of Palestine, then deflect on the other countries that also want a piece of Palestine, and on top of it, you shame the people of Palestine, other Jewish people, and those outside of Palestine for fighting and supporting the liberation of Palestine. I mean, WTF? I believe you’re the one conflating all these separate issues as if they are one in the same. I can go on, and on, but you'll probably move the goal post as you did in the entire video. So I’ll stop here. If you don't care about people losing their land and believe it’s their fault for not being a “force of nature”, then say that. But you're view point's very sloppy, misinformed, biased, and callous altogether. Here's to hoping you do better, but I won't hold my breath.
@@ChrisGoldie It's truly unfortunate how miseducated people (including Maye) are about this genocide of Palestinians. It's a deep history of White Supremacy. People aren't aware that Palestine isn't the only country Zionist Israel has their claws in.
we have become a world of wisdom on bumper stickers. thinking is no longer needed. George Carlin's views on critical thinking comes to mind; where is he when we need him? great video Maye
wtffff. I did not expect this from her. This is hurting me as I love her takes. Ignorance is the only forgiveness here. If you are aware of everything and side with Israel, you’re as close to evil as it gets in the real world. The real world is nuanced, but this situation is the closest to binary as I have seen.
It makes sense that Dara Horn's collection of essays People Love Dead Jews has really taken off this year. It feels in step with the world telling the Israelis not to fight Hamas. Rather, it seems to me, the world would prefer Hamas destroys the country of Israel and leave a monument memorializing the once glorious Jewish nation-state. Yep, that's what everything I've seen on the internet seems to suggest.
Maye first congrats on the new baby. I was wondering why your videos haven't been in my feed so went searching. I'm sad to have found your take on this though. Egypt let Israel know about Oct. 7th over a year before it happened. Israel was ramping up destruction on Palestinian citizens in 2023 and way earlier than that. The response we knew was going to be ugly and it has been. Anyone who cares about humanity can see Israel's response on Palestinian citizens is genocidal and the aim is to clear the people of Palestine from the area. About Hamas, Naziyahoo said Hamas needs to be funded in order block a Palestinian state. Also Israel is behind so much that wrong with Africa as is the US. You can't say they are only responsible for a few things when taking resources from Africa and Latin America have been things they've done for decades and that hasn't stopped. Look at Haiti even. Look at Puerto Rico who can't get statehood but can get US citizens colonizing the land there. Sad on this one Maye as someone who has been watching you for a good while. Zionism is Racism. ✌🏾
as a black woman i don’t need to have anything in common with palestinians to support them. i’m human. they’re human. that’s enough for me to not want to see civilians suffer for the actions of a radical group
I’m not sure where that take came from. How the hell we all got minimized to sexual liberation but I absolutely agree with you
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It's so strange that you quote the UN definition of genocide and disqualify it, while ignoring the fact that many UN officials are right now warning against a genocide, or a genocide in the making at the very least.
The threshold for genocide is high. That’s why the UN is able to avoid taking actions when inconvenient genocides have occurred in the past. The UN is a political organization
time.com/6334409/is-whats-happening-gaza-genocide-experts/
the UN is wholly controlled by the US. @@MayeMuses
If your argument starts and ends with anyone supporting Hamas and cheering for what happened on October 7th, I understand. But if it's meant to justify the "force of nature" styled terror being done in retaliation, I'm shocked, as a subscriber of yours for a while. Everyone has different morals, so moral arguments aside, what the Israeli government is doing is just as much a violation of international law as what Hamas did. The indiscriminate murder of innocent civilians is not justifiable according to international human rights laws. I was disgusted by October 7th for the same reason I'm disgusted by what has happened since.
If the mainstream narrative was that all the conflicts you mentioned resulted in the justifiable, indiscriminate murders of civilians, with the funding and blessings of the US government, I'm sure many of the same people protesting for Palestinians would be just as engaged. Just as enraged. This should not be reduced to an "oppressed vs oppressor" narrative, regardless of its applicability. Israel has the right to defend itself, but not at the cost of over 12,000 civilian lives, while making no distinction between Palestinian civilians and Hamas combatants. Not at the cost of the substantial civilian infrastructure destroyed, or the over 1.5 million civilians who have been forced to relocate so that North Gaza could be leveled.
There ARE antisemitic opportunists latching onto this moment, using it for their own objectives. But those focused on the deaths of the innocent are not antisemitic for criticizing the government carrying out these crimes, no more than I'm an Islamophobe for recognizing the events of October 7th as a crime against humanity as well.
My argument doesn’t start and end with Oct 7 was bad, but it starts there. You have a right to think what you want about me, but I have to get facts in order. This isn’t a both sides are just as bad issue. There’s no evidence Israel is targeting indiscriminately or trying to hurt civilians. They’re getting hurt in the process. That’s not against international law. Hamas is using children as human shields and no, we don’t have to care about others children as much as our own. They are warning people to leave, which most countries won’t do. Social media is not being fair on this issue, nor is the international community.
@MayeMuses I unsubscribed. Thanks for your opinions.
@@texas13made31 I’m not changing to keep you here. Goodbye!
@@MayeMuses If there was a member of Hamas in an apartment building full of civilians in the United States you wouldn’t accept it if the US military destroyed the entire apartment building just to kill that member of Hamas. If the US did that instead of taking a more precise approach you would accuse them of not caring about the civilians in that building. Which is what most people are pointing to as the evidence that they are indiscriminately targeting civilians. There’s also more evidence that they are targeting Palestinian civilians because they’ve been bombing and establishing settlements in the West Bank where Hamas is not located.
The human shields argument is ridiculous. If someone has a hostage do you go through the hostage to get to them? No. So if it’s true that they’re using people as shields it’s still not justified to kill those people.
To clarify, the reason why so many people support Palestine regardless of their more conservative ideologies is because advocacy of other’s human rights doesn’t stop because they supposedly don’t agree with lgbtq rights, women’s rights, etc. Not only does that boil all of them down to being a single monolith who all think and feel the same about every issue, but queer Palestinians and queer Muslims still exist. Not to mention these are still literal human beings.
Moreover, Israel still very much has infrastructure, electricity, normal society, while Palestine is being leveled to the ground, people trapped under rubble, and entire bloodlines erased. People are actively mocking their eradication. The Israeli government is intentionally committing war crimes against civilians and officials have boasted about offing every single last Palestinian.
It’s also not true that people aren’t talking about other crimes against humanity that are happening in other parts of the world. This has sparked conversation about other tragedies such as what’s going on in Congo. To the point where even celebrities such as Dua Lipa havs questioned the CEO of Apple himself about unethical mining practices and exploitation of conflict in the area. People sharing tips on how to avoid purchasing new Apple products etc.
Lastly although antisemitism has reared its ugly head in some spheres, so too has Islamophobia. Turns out when two groups of different religions fight each other, you get ignorance from both ends of the extreme. But to allude to antisemitism being the reason this situation got so big is a bit disappointing. People are upset because yet again we’re witnessing a colonial state manifest destiny its way through a land that was occupied by someone else already. When you have a government that’s actively trying to unalive an entire group of people, what else can you call it other than a g*nocide? Anyone would protest against that
i agree with everything you’ve said. HAMAS did evil absolutely and they must be held accountable for their actions on October 7. But it is not an excuse for mass murder. Christians really should be praying and promoting a ceasefire to preserve life. Idk this video wasn’t really it. This is unjustified.
I understand why you're upset, but Hamas is a cancer, and they're using human shields. ruclips.net/video/9qklT3hYcr4/видео.htmlsi=ZJkWnGZJ7GBoIZG-
@@MayeMuses They're not using human shields. That makes no sense. Israel, and the international community that has been involved on the ground for years, have produced no evidence of these so called massive interconnected network of tunnels in Palestine nor Egypt. That would be an incredibly hard secret to hold given the amount of people needed to create such a system. Israel used this exact same human shield argument in the last skirmish with Hamas, only that time it was every school (a war crime) and apartment building they demolished were secretly Hamas headquarters hiding underground tunnels.
Hamas is a monster that Israel helped create. Period. They chose the worst option as a means of eventually either controlling Gaza or justifying its total elimination.
“Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation,” Avner Cohen, a former Israeli religious affairs official who worked in Gaza for more than two decades, told the Wall Street Journal in 2009. Back in the mid-1980s, Cohen even wrote an official report to his superiors warning them not to play divide-and-rule in the Occupied Territories, by backing Palestinian Islamists against Palestinian secularists." theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
This is all beside the very point that what Israel suffered on Oct 7 it has done to Palestine almost every day since 1947. Hamas has been accused on using human shields by a country that has been arming illegal settlers and annexing Palestinian land for them to live on who then getting into altercations with those Palestinians and are absolved when they shoot them to death.
Israel lies. Period.
@@MayeMuses Your argument to justify war and killing of innocent civilians is ridiculous. So Hamas are using human shields. Do you think they will be hiding in plain sight? So disappointed to see you falling for propaganda. There are no simple solutions, but war is NEVER the answer. Sad for your newborn child to be raised by a war-mongering mother.
@@MayeMuses but notice I have not mentioned Hamas. Because that’s not who the Israeli government is targeting. At least that’s not all they’re targeting. They are actively killing innocent civilians. Whether or not you believe it’s intentional (judging by the Israeli government’s words and beliefs, I have a hard time believing it’s anything but intentional) what stands is that the death toll the Israeli government has inflicted on this group within just one month is astronomical. It’s completely reckless and unethical. Not to mention, shutting off water, electricity, etc. is quite literally a war crime. Because that doesn’t just affect Hamas, but innocent people as well. I’m sorry, but if Hamas was the only problem, literally any sane person would know that as a global superpower, this act of retaliation is a complete dumpster fire and a clear indication of just how sinister colonial states can be. Hamas didn’t start in a vacuum. It was created as a direct result of Israeli occupation. Colonization will always be the first act of violence as in itself it’s inherently an offensive act.
To be honest I was really looking forwards to your take on this but to see you have fallen in Israel’s propaganda and are using the human shields argument … I now know to be careful what I wish for.I’ll be looking forwards to your update video in the future when you backtrack tho😅
Yeah Hamas would never do that because they care so much about their own people.😄
@@andrewjoyner4133hamas is a terror group most gazans alive now didn’t even vote for. Not a powerful western nation and ally like Israel. Are we to hold them to the same standards?
@@andrewjoyner4133 the only people that don't care about human life are Zionists.
She doesn't need to backtrack, she is entitled to her own opinion. That's the beauty of free speech.
Oh….boy. Well, that was…a video
Just don't ask her about the 40 babies lol
It's always good to hear you're take on issues because they're always unique but I have to disagree with you on this video. First, I believe that Hamas is solely responsible for what's happening in Gaza, they full well understood the power of their enemy and still attacked them with no plan or care for their own people. In wars that predated ww2, Israel's response would be justified but in today's climate it's too cruel to justify. After ww2 the international community had to write new articles to protect civilians from mass casualty during war, specifically children. All of your mentions of war ending tactics predate that convention and is why so many people (including the UN and Humanitarian groups like the red cross) are against Israel's tactics. Anybody with sense would agree that Israel has a right to defend itself but it does not have a right to cut off fuel, food, and clean drinking water to a territory it controls. This isn't a war between two powerful nations like the US vs Japan but a retaliation on terrorist group inside of a controlled closed border territory that Israel has control over.
11,000+ people have been killed (alot of them innocent meaning regardless of view points they are civilians not soldiers) with over 3,000 of them being children over the span of a month, no matter how you look at it that's a lot of people regardless of the size of the population. In today's world I don't think it's too outlandish to say that we should find other ways to deradicalize a people without always resorting to extreme violence to complete the goal. Especially when it isn't a country you're fighting against but a closed border territory that Israel has the right to control what goes in and out, as well as if it has food, water, and fuel. There were better ways to deal with terrorist and Israel chose a very violent method to go with. And to your point of who takes lunch breaks in a war, in the Battle of Mogadishu while the Americans and Somalis were fighting, a donkey walked in between the battlefield. He walked by twice and both times the Somalis and Americans both agreed to a ceasefire to let the donkey pass and started fighting again once it was safely out of the way. There can be moments of humanity in war but it doesn't make it any less cruel.
I don’t think there should ever be any question mark after Not supporting the mass murdering// displacement //harassment of innocent men women and children.
Smh.. very disappointing
“An entire nation committing suicide by cop” is completely bonkers and disgusting. There are many many reasons this situation is different from a suicide by cop, I’ll just point out that most Gazan citizens had literally nothing to do with that attack. Hard to believe people are out here trying to justify literal crimes against humanity. Israel obviously just wanted to take Gaza anyway, which is what this is all about. Kind of extremely obvious. I’m just gonna assume there is a legitimate reason for this wild level of bias and move on. Just gonna point out how ridiculous it is to cite a poll conducted while the country is being brutally bombed and ethnically cleansed…wtf.
Opinion polls show otherwise. Do you dispute them? Plus, if we sent an invasion force of 360,000 (the equivalent for our pop), we could NOT argue that we as a people were not complicit.
nah bro u don't get it. they asked to be occupied by the Israelis and have their water and electricity shut off while simultaneously being referred to as "human animals" something wrong wit her, must got hijacked by a zionist brain virus
It's ABSOLUTELY a reason for this WILD LEVEL OF BIAS..... But she'll never let it be known.
Opinion polls… key word opinion.. can’t get stupider than this
@@MayeMuses Well, I do have questions about the validity, the accuracy, and how these polls were conducted given the current situation in Gaza. But that’s not even the most important concern right now, the poll could very well be accurate, it could also be IDF propaganda. To me it’s far more important to point out that Hamas was elected in 2006 with less than a *majority of the population and the citizens have not even had the chance to vote them out since then. I believe at least half of the current population was not even near voting age at that time, let alone the many who weren’t even alive in 2006.
The response to 10/7 is collective punishment by definition, you are not even disputing that, only attempting to justify it. Collective punishment is a war crime under the Geneva convention. An opinion poll does not change that.
12:20 I like how she tries the paint Everybody is an anti semite but she then shows her Sinophobia Bias. The chinese are our enemies.
Sorry had to unsubscribe I strange analysis
Huh how do you advocate for America being the world police but then say Americans shouldn't push their values and ways of thought on to others. That does make sense
America shouldn’t be world police.
This take is ageing like milk.
lol, we won’t even know one way or another for a decade or more. Get out of your bubble
By now this take has passed aged milk status and has become moldy cheese. I'd hoped you'd have also followed your own advice, 'getting out of your bubble." Nothing wrong with changing your views based on new information. Genocide however is wrong, and couldn't change my mind about that.@@MayeMuses
@@HGFields That's crazy. Did they give the hostages back and surrender in your bubble? No? That's the way to end this, and it has been since Oct 7, so not much actually has changed.
Yes I suppose. I mean 30,000+ civilians murdered by the IDF. Several million people who've since lost their families, homes, livelihoods and now on the cusp of famine certainly found that a lot has changed since Oct7. It's sounds to me as though you believe this to be a just response. Considering the IDF shot a few of said hostages, I'm not really sure that they were ever really a concern so much as a prop to support and further their expansionist campaign. The fact that Israeli intelligence knew about the attack way before it happened and could have thus prevented it should perhaps have given off some red flags, if even one. I can't imagine why with all the information out there (believe it or not, outside of my bubble too) one would choose willful ignorance. That's what I find crazy.
Bruh it was spoiled as soon as it was posted. No one batted an eye when thousands of Palestinians were captured over the years but now taking hostages means u can kill as many people as u want. U can reduce a city to rubble. The funny thing alot of the families of the hostages don't think like this. Some families believe the Israeli gov dont care about their family. Most hate the approach of the gov becuz truth is IDF has been killing hostages along with Palestinian civilians. They did so on Oct 7th too. Sadly some won't see until later. This is how history unfolds.
Free palestine
I knew it if it look and walk like a duck it’s a duck
28 minutes of straight yapping
For the first time, I'm disagreeing with your take. Not that it matters. I just think this dismisses the origin of this war and the previous ones in the first place. I do think that overall, blowing up innocent people to get your point across under the guise of "protecting" a nation is an ouroboros of chaos and utter bullsh*t. War is obviously outdated. However, it has been very clear that Israel has the support and the ability to make things right more so than Palestine. Unless, we're simply not reading the same thing, it appears that Palestine is reacting to the injustice they've been enduring for what? 80+ years??
That's if you assume that Israel was the aggressor for the past 80 years, and they weren't. The 1948 war was defensive, and there were pogroms before that even, most notably in 1929. They were driven out of the rest of the Middle East as well. Also, at the end of WWI, numerous new states were formed from the collapsing empires. I don't see how Israel would have been much different except the constant hostility they faced from their neighbors.
Honestly, I feel the Palestinians have been used by other nations and causes as a tool, and no one really thinks of their best interest. Now, the population is unwilling to share the land, and they don't have a path to victory. This is geo-political yass-lighting from people with no skin in the game, rn the "free Palestine" protesters who are asking them to die for generations rather than accept the inevitable, like hundreds of peoples have done. It would hurt the ego at first, but their kids would actually have a life.
@@MayeMuses Extrapolate your thoughts to face the other direction.
Israel was the nation installed by other nations as a tool. They were deliberately advanced by the west to have more than just sticks and stones and given leniency to subject the population for generations so they wouldn’t collapse the same way. They're are positioned the same way American Settlers had the advancement of guns and explosives vs the bows and arrows equipped by American Indians, including the decades of subjection to a population/"death by a thousands cuts" where they inevitably create their own monster too create the justification of a war they wanted from the start that would allow them to wipe them out. All because they didn't worship the mightier power and allow them to take land they already occupied because why would they.
Hamas knew they could never win any war, but they could win attention and expose just how sadistic their subjugators are under the optics of a hyper-connected post pandemic world where the extend of humanitarian crimes and the west's involvement couldn’t go unnoticed, unaddressed, and unpolarized. Who would want to associate themselves with a country that tortures a city full of civilians like sadists in the open day?
"Free Palestine" spawns because people also pick up and notice the rhetoric Israel (and western officials) use towards the Palestinian people (like labeling them "animals", refusing to recognize them as a state, refusing to see eye to eye with their "demands" for empathy and liberty) are able to draw parallels to the rhetoric and subjection they recognize and face in their own land being _____ minority/underclass people.
Free Palestine. Love ya Maye
Just watching this now, just discovered your channel. I appreciate your nuance, rabbit holing, and freethinking
Somebody is on the wrong side of history. I’m pretty conservative and I can see that 😂.
I’d never left my disdain of the far left make me support ethnic cleansing.
So no word about a legitimate state in that region? They should just be removed from that region?
You said a lot and said nothing. The people of Gaza are not all Hamas.Thw Palestinians are people,l. You say you're a black american, ok. Your ancestors that were brought here were called property, not even a human being. The indigenous people of America were called animals, savages, barbarians.Hotler even labeled the Jewish people the same. The reason why people are dialed in now, and are pro Palestine, is because, people aren't as stupid anymore. Congratulations, you will have your video and your words in history
She's clearly biracial in some way or fashion. Why limit her to her black side only?
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@maye to answer your question of: What does that means...... Free Palestine means:
1. Those so-called (Jews) or clearly not indigenous to the land.
2. No matter of what ENTITY gave them the land back in 1948 or whenever does it ACTUALLY make it there's....
3. The actual indigenous people of the land don't need a doggone reason to tell you it's their land and to please stop oppressing them
Look at any genetic study on jewish people. They are indigenous. Stop talking out ya as if you dont have evidence to back it up
U lost me there girl
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The wrong reaction of the "pro-Palestinians" should not determine how you approach the matter. This did NOT start on the 7th of october. It began in the early 1900s and reached a huge climax in 1947. Eastern "anti-semitism" is NOT the same as western antisemitism. For us it is about an illegal occupation of a Land where people lived before western colonialist forces decided to "solve" their 2000 year old western anti-semitism by forcing the Js onto another people they had no positive feelings for as well. For europeans it is about 2000 years of pogroms, conspiracy theories, blaming pests and economic collapses, blaming the "Great Replacement" onto the Js, claiming them to be under-humans and that exterminating them is therefore "okay." Anti-Semitism has different meanings depending on the perspective and angle it comes from.
Hatred of Jews is still hatred of Jews. The murder of Jews by the Muslim prophet Muhammad, the abuse Jews faced under the Ottoman empire, in addition to the forced exhale of Sephardic and Mizahri Jews is not made insignificant because Europeans have committed acts of violence. Your attempt to rewrite Jewish history is pathetic.
Thank you for your summary of the situation. Glad that you are back in the saddle with your commentaries after bringing in to this world a beautiful boy.
Most younger people do not understand the concept of war. Your reference to General Sherman, who was a major player in the Civil War and the Indian wars in following decades, is refreshing. His speeches, given later in life, made clear what war was and he made clear that it would be with us until motives deep in human natures changed. He told young military cadets that it was an unfortunate result of human nature that their services might one day be needed.
Truly well said. I found this channel looking for information on John Brown, found the video on the Good Lord Bird and am so glad I did. One thing I'd ask is, aside from the weakness of the UN, when looking at how the UNGA and various committees have been handling this conflict for years, how would they have any credibility anyway?
I am highly disappointed by your lack of facts and indepth information. You don't even sound like someone who's actually read about or even lived this situation first-hand.
I beg you to do more research on this topic because you are missing a lot of key facts, specifically to which sides (multiple culprits)nhave power and which sides are being oppressed. This doesn't start or begin with Palestine alone. Those in the power positions are oppressing more countries, more lands, including Palestine.
Watching this made me realize you really don't have a grasp on the world and your views are extremely isolated to country you live in, and probably smaller, like the group of people you surround yourself by. See the world beyond you narrowed peripherals. Please!
Maybe the cult research is clouding your view on reality.
This video is specifically about Gaza/Israel. This is not about oppression around the world. One problem I point out is that people try to conflate all these issues, and somehow all of their frustrations w the world are taken out on this situation, specifically Israel. Israel comes to (unfairly) represent all injustice and that does not hold up to any scrutiny.
If you have a problem w the video, point out a specific time stamp and question the research.
Also, I specifically point out that the “free Palestine” crowd conveniently does not care about other injustices around the world, esp if it messes w their little conveniences, like iPhones.
@@MayeMuses There's a lot of generalizations, conspiracies, & biases on your end, even in this response.
You generalize the meaning of "Free Palestine'' w/o going beyond the hashtag and algorithms. You mention one side not accepting, or being open to, LGBTQIA+ and Women Rights, when all the countries involved process and create laws from a patriarchal religious viewpoint (US included). You say what Israel is doing is a "force of nature", but then condemn their retaliator as if they are worse. It's like you missed where this all started and focused on shaming the people responding to tyranny.
You minimize the history of how Palestine got colonized by the west in order to create Israel, & how the west is still supporting Israel to completely wipe out Palestine, as if the Israeli government and its supporters are innocent in this all. When has the occupancy of indigenous land ever been positive? Or do you believe it's meant to be because you’re Zionist and this form of colonization is cool?
You go in and out of generalizing and minimizing the idea of war, stigmatizing the people who you believe aren’t educated enough on the issue, then excusing and minimizing the actions of the Western and Israeli government for their involvement in the Colonization of Palestine, then deflect on the other countries that also want a piece of Palestine, and on top of it, you shame the people of Palestine, other Jewish people, and those outside of Palestine for fighting and supporting the liberation of Palestine. I mean, WTF? I believe you’re the one conflating all these separate issues as if they are one in the same. I can go on, and on, but you'll probably move the goal post as you did in the entire video. So I’ll stop here.
If you don't care about people losing their land and believe it’s their fault for not being a “force of nature”, then say that. But you're view point's very sloppy, misinformed, biased, and callous altogether. Here's to hoping you do better, but I won't hold my breath.
@@talkamarachi yea this exactly how i feel nd it sucks to see how people justify how far they are taking this.
@@ChrisGoldie It's truly unfortunate how miseducated people (including Maye) are about this genocide of Palestinians. It's a deep history of White Supremacy.
People aren't aware that Palestine isn't the only country Zionist Israel has their claws in.
we have become a world of wisdom on bumper stickers. thinking is no longer needed. George Carlin's views on critical thinking comes to mind; where is he when we need him? great video Maye
Maye, I have to disagree with you on this one but, as always, thank you for your humorous take on events.
4:42 what the heck? 🧐 😅
thank god i was not wrong when i suscribed to you!
23:00 all law? Or Allah?
wtffff. I did not expect this from her. This is hurting me as I love her takes. Ignorance is the only forgiveness here. If you are aware of everything and side with Israel, you’re as close to evil as it gets in the real world. The real world is nuanced, but this situation is the closest to binary as I have seen.
It makes sense that Dara Horn's collection of essays People Love Dead Jews has really taken off this year. It feels in step with the world telling the Israelis not to fight Hamas. Rather, it seems to me, the world would prefer Hamas destroys the country of Israel and leave a monument memorializing the once glorious Jewish nation-state. Yep, that's what everything I've seen on the internet seems to suggest.
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I have to say seeing a black media personality (that is not a hack) that has a critical opinion on this dumpsterfire is so f***ing refreshing.
That's not really a compliment 🙇🏽♀️
I have to concede that it is a weird thing to say and I totaly see how it is f up but I think this video shows (e.g. tribalism) why.@@ALove29
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Maye first congrats on the new baby. I was wondering why your videos haven't been in my feed so went searching. I'm sad to have found your take on this though. Egypt let Israel know about Oct. 7th over a year before it happened. Israel was ramping up destruction on Palestinian citizens in 2023 and way earlier than that. The response we knew was going to be ugly and it has been. Anyone who cares about humanity can see Israel's response on Palestinian citizens is genocidal and the aim is to clear the people of Palestine from the area. About Hamas, Naziyahoo said Hamas needs to be funded in order block a Palestinian state. Also Israel is behind so much that wrong with Africa as is the US. You can't say they are only responsible for a few things when taking resources from Africa and Latin America have been things they've done for decades and that hasn't stopped. Look at Haiti even. Look at Puerto Rico who can't get statehood but can get US citizens colonizing the land there. Sad on this one Maye as someone who has been watching you for a good while. Zionism is Racism. ✌🏾