USS Juneau is remembered because of the loss of the Sullivan brothers, 5 brothers who served together. All of them were killed and left that family with no heirs. However, there were also multiple sets of triplets and twins aboard Juneau whose families also suffered too tragic a sacrifice. The U.S. Navy immediately changed their "buddy and brother policy" and forbade close knit sailors from serving on the same ship.
My dad and his brother experienced this action aboard the Helena. They were eye witnesses to the destruction of the Juneau from their top side battle stations.
My Great Uncle was aboard the San Francisco from October 1941 to February 1946. Her story is his story. He lived what we read. He didn't want to talk about the things he saw. Once, when I was around ten, I pressured him to tell me something; after he repeatedly told me to read books. He didn't snap, nor even raise his voice. He spoke quietly. He said, _"You want to know something that's not in a book. Okay. All my friends got killed in this battle. ALL of them. Some were blown to bits. We washed their remains over the side with fire hoses, and said a prayer for them. That's what happened Friday, November 13th, 1942. But we DID stop the J@ps from destroying the airfield. Go find the rest in a book."_ I never troubled him again about it. He died in 1996. He's still a hero to me; even though he didn't think so. Like most WW2 Vets, he said, _"The real heros are the ones who didn't come home."_
I'm obsessed with watching anything about WW2, the amount of brave people that lost their lives so that we can live free and in peace...but all for nothing by looking at what the world is slowly becoming. I can't imagine how much technology would evolve if all the country's smartest minds worked together.
Yep. My Grampa was a SeaBee on Guadalcanal and other Pacific islands. He saw so much suffering and suffered himself so much for this nation of ours. I believe he'd be beyond angry to see how far his once-great nation had fallen today.
At 75, I am a Baby Boomer. Bill Clinton is of my generation. Once he was elected, it's been all downhill since! Bob Dole, a true gentleman, was the last of the Greatest Generation to run for president.
USS Helena (CL-50), the "Original Machine Gun Cruiser", a name given by the Japanese due to it's super fast firing 6 inch rifles which there was 15 of them along with 8- 5 inch guns, which literally sounded like a Big Machine Gun.
My dad got volunteered to build and maintain the navigation radio for Henderson field and was there for the shelling and night actions...He who shot first won regardless of caliber...Callihan would not use radar controlled fire control despite painting the enemy fleeyt first...
Admiral Norman Scott flew his flag in Light (AA) cruiser ATLANTA He was killed by friendly fire from San Fransico when Atlanta drifted into her line of fire
I've studied this battle every which way possible with the next day Battle I consider still part of the original maneuvers where Kirisima is sunk by Adm. 'Ching' Lee and the Battleship Washington, that will make two Battleships sunk on consecutive days, almost unheard of in WW2. -"A Lion will attack a Rabbit with All it's Power", Hiei & Kirishima was sent down to bombard Henderson field into Oblivion, both of the Battle-Wagons could be said was more like Extra-Heavy Cruisers, quite old although both updated, meanwhile Yamato & possibly Mushashi (if not it is still around somewhere close), sitting at Truk doing Jack-Squat, if they had sent Both of these massive Floating Fortresses with their 18 inch Rifles there would have been no Henderson field, but they didn't (didn't want their floating Motel sunk or Damaged), & paid the price
Yep. I always wondered why, when the Japanese High Command knew that Guadalcanal was an absolutely vital battle they had to win... yet they chose to keep Yamato and Musashi away from the battle, likely due to fear of losing their prime battleships. No wonder they lost.
It was said Lee knew radar better than the men who operated it! He also knew the ballistics of the 16"/45 caliber guns on both _Washington_ and _South Dakota!_ He won 5 gold medals in the Olympics for shooting! The Navy's own Sniper! REALLY! Ready about him, and what he did when under fire while ashore! Lee was fearless. But prudent too. After reducing Kirishima to a heap of foundering scrap iron, he lead the other IJN ships away from his cripples, doubled back. He stayed a step ahead of them the whole time by using his radar effectively. One of my favorite _"what ifs"_ of WW2 is... _What if Lee with his two fast battleships had been there on 13 November; with Lee, not Callaghan, in command?_ That would have been a very different battle!
It is a shame that the US and allies did not fully understand the long lance torpedo the Japanese had. If so, the battle could have been a bit different. But who knows.
Definitely! (That's by James Hornfischer.) AND "Guadalcanal: Decision at Sea" by Eric Hammel. It guides you through the fight ship by ship! A must have for ALL history buffs!
Stock footage of that US Navy is fine, but could try to match footage with battle or campaign that you are explaining rather footage of the standard battleships steaming in the 1930's.
This is one of the reasons i often scroll past 95% of the videos posted by any one of the channels ran by this guy/group. Solid topics for videos but the execution in most videos is average at best
@@SWATT101 because I subscribed before the channel’s used stock footage that didn’t connect to the topic at hand. If i didn’t want to watch i’d just read an actual book. Luckily i learned how to enjoy reading books cover to cover before seemingly everything got put onto electronics. Cheers.
no one cares except war nerds. it literally affects nothing. besides why would he change, it gets the “acKchyUalLy” crowd engaging in the comments lmao
What would have happened in many of these confrontations had the USA not broken the critical Japanese codes? Advance knowledge of a lot did not always lead to consistent victories. I would have thought it would have been very difficult to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I am not complaining about the folks who did the work, but the higher-ups bore a lot of fault for such performances.
This a battle where Callahan failed to give advance orders to attack the enemy at the most opportune time. if the torpedoes had worked the Japanese likely would have backed off or been left without several destroyers for the battle.
Because they didnt want Japan to get there tech or learn that us broke there code and plus have there own guns firing at them if Japan won that fight and managed to secure the ship it would be used against the us
I eagerly await Japan rebuilding it's forces to see the technological marvel that will come so their not reliant on the US. Sasebo and Okinawa are crucial bases that hosts marines and I got stories for days about them there. Those who are inexperienced though and never actually did nothing will look and try to seem knowledgeable about the topic SMH......
Yes Scott probably would have trusted Fletcher and company to at launch launch torpedoes or their own targeting and hit the Japanese and get a few explosions from hits and cause Japanese to lose formation and as the hits scored the cruisers and destroyers could have hit the Japanese with gun fire earlier.
Only to be relegated to second place on the grid, you have displeased the gods of RUclips and they are cruel in their swift retribution - oh the ignominy of their wrath 😱
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USS Juneau is remembered because of the loss of the Sullivan brothers, 5 brothers who served together. All of them were killed and left that family with no heirs. However, there were also multiple sets of triplets and twins aboard Juneau whose families also suffered too tragic a sacrifice. The U.S. Navy immediately changed their "buddy and brother policy" and forbade close knit sailors from serving on the same ship.
My dad and his brother experienced this action aboard the Helena. They were eye witnesses to the destruction of the Juneau from their top side battle stations.
"A bar room brawl when the lights have been shot out". That's a good one. Similar to "a knife fight in a phone booth".
With today's Navy, it'd be a pillow-fight among transitionals to decide who "got to be on top".
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My Great Uncle was aboard the San Francisco from October 1941 to February 1946. Her story is his story. He lived what we read.
He didn't want to talk about the things he saw. Once, when I was around ten, I pressured him to tell me something; after he repeatedly told me to read books. He didn't snap, nor even raise his voice. He spoke quietly. He said, _"You want to know something that's not in a book. Okay. All my friends got killed in this battle. ALL of them. Some were blown to bits. We washed their remains over the side with fire hoses, and said a prayer for them. That's what happened Friday, November 13th, 1942. But we DID stop the J@ps from destroying the airfield. Go find the rest in a book."_
I never troubled him again about it. He died in 1996. He's still a hero to me; even though he didn't think so. Like most WW2 Vets, he said, _"The real heros are the ones who didn't come home."_
I'm obsessed with watching anything about WW2, the amount of brave people that lost their lives so that we can live free and in peace...but all for nothing by looking at what the world is slowly becoming. I can't imagine how much technology would evolve if all the country's smartest minds worked together.
Yep. My Grampa was a SeaBee on Guadalcanal and other Pacific islands. He saw so much suffering and suffered himself so much for this nation of ours. I believe he'd be beyond angry to see how far his once-great nation had fallen today.
At 75, I am a Baby Boomer. Bill Clinton is of my generation. Once he was elected, it's been all downhill since! Bob Dole, a true gentleman, was the last of the Greatest Generation to run for president.
@@RonGreeneComedian The elites have been controlling the country from the shadows since before JFK, & after they got rid of JFK.
I was obsessed with ww2 but ended up with hardly anything left to learn so I've moved on to ww1 ! , I'll be out of world wars soon 😂
That was me when I was 10
USS Helena (CL-50), the "Original Machine Gun Cruiser", a name given by the Japanese due to it's super fast firing 6 inch rifles which there was 15 of them along with 8- 5 inch guns, which literally sounded like a Big Machine Gun.
I’ve read a couple of recollections of this battle but from the scene as seen by ground troops on Guadalcanal.
My dad got volunteered to build and maintain the navigation radio for Henderson field and was there for the shelling and night actions...He who shot first won regardless of caliber...Callihan would not use radar controlled fire control despite painting the enemy fleeyt first...
Admiral Norman Scott flew his flag in Light (AA) cruiser ATLANTA He was killed by friendly fire from San Fransico when Atlanta drifted into her line of fire
I've studied this battle every which way possible with the next day Battle I consider still part of the original maneuvers where Kirisima is sunk by Adm. 'Ching' Lee and the Battleship Washington, that will make two Battleships sunk on consecutive days, almost unheard of in WW2. -"A Lion will attack a Rabbit with All it's Power", Hiei & Kirishima was sent down to bombard Henderson field into Oblivion, both of the Battle-Wagons could be said was more like Extra-Heavy Cruisers, quite old although both updated, meanwhile Yamato & possibly Mushashi (if not it is still around somewhere close), sitting at Truk doing Jack-Squat, if they had sent Both of these massive Floating Fortresses with their 18 inch Rifles there would have been no Henderson field, but they didn't (didn't want their floating Motel sunk or Damaged), & paid the price
Yep. I always wondered why, when the Japanese High Command knew that Guadalcanal was an absolutely vital battle they had to win... yet they chose to keep Yamato and Musashi away from the battle, likely due to fear of losing their prime battleships. No wonder they lost.
Ching Lee understood how to use radar and hit the Kirishima on the first salvo. Which they thought landed short.
Likely the first flag officer to understand and use Radar to his advantage...@tgamron
It was said Lee knew radar better than the men who operated it!
He also knew the ballistics of the 16"/45 caliber guns on both _Washington_ and _South Dakota!_
He won 5 gold medals in the Olympics for shooting! The Navy's own Sniper! REALLY! Ready about him, and what he did when under fire while ashore! Lee was fearless. But prudent too.
After reducing Kirishima to a heap of foundering scrap iron, he lead the other IJN ships away from his cripples, doubled back. He stayed a step ahead of them the whole time by using his radar effectively.
One of my favorite _"what ifs"_ of WW2 is...
_What if Lee with his two fast battleships had been there on 13 November; with Lee, not Callaghan, in command?_
That would have been a very different battle!
It is a shame that the US and allies did not fully understand the long lance torpedo the Japanese had. If so, the battle could have been a bit different. But who knows.
The real shame is that Admiral Callahan was not more competent to understand the advantage that radar gave his force.
Maybe the ship with the most modern radar should have been in the lead. But the person in charge didn't know how to use the radar and didn't trust it!
Anyone interested in this battle should read the book Neptune's Inferno.
Definitely! (That's by James Hornfischer.)
AND "Guadalcanal: Decision at Sea" by Eric Hammel.
It guides you through the fight ship by ship! A must have for ALL history buffs!
@@BlitzenSpeaks Thanks for the title. I just bought it from Amazon. Thanks again.
Thank's dark seas.👍🇺🇸
Poor, brave devils... Rest in Peace
Stock footage of that US Navy is fine, but could try to match footage with battle or campaign that you are explaining rather footage of the standard battleships steaming in the 1930's.
This is one of the reasons i often scroll past 95% of the videos posted by any one of the channels ran by this guy/group. Solid topics for videos but the execution in most videos is average at best
At least they didn't use the clip of actor Verner Klemperer playing a Uboat captain.
How about not looking at the vid and using your imagination like a book... Like the days of old..mol
@@SWATT101 because I subscribed before the channel’s used stock footage that didn’t connect to the topic at hand. If i didn’t want to watch i’d just read an actual book. Luckily i learned how to enjoy reading books cover to cover before seemingly everything got put onto electronics. Cheers.
no one cares except war nerds. it literally affects nothing. besides why would he change, it gets the “acKchyUalLy” crowd engaging in the comments lmao
Thanks!
Wasn’t this battle also called the Battle of Savo Island?
What would have happened in many of these confrontations had the USA not broken the critical Japanese codes? Advance knowledge of a lot did not always lead to consistent victories. I would have thought it would have been very difficult to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I am not complaining about the folks who did the work, but the higher-ups bore a lot of fault for such performances.
This a battle where Callahan failed to give advance orders to attack the enemy at the most opportune time. if the torpedoes had worked the Japanese likely would have backed off or been left without several destroyers for the battle.
I wonder why instead of scuttling our ships we didn’t run them aground so that their weapons and ammo couldn’t be scavenged to use on Guadalcanal?
Because they didnt want Japan to get there tech or learn that us broke there code and plus have there own guns firing at them if Japan won that fight and managed to secure the ship it would be used against the us
The Battle of Friday the 13th
I eagerly await Japan rebuilding it's forces to see the technological marvel that will come so their not reliant on the US. Sasebo and Okinawa are crucial bases that hosts marines and I got stories for days about them there. Those who are inexperienced though and never actually did nothing will look and try to seem knowledgeable about the topic SMH......
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Fantastico Guadalcanal..... Respect from Vietnam.. Allahu akhbar
Too many commercials
shame such interesting history docs being ruined by AI advertising Leave it out and let us watch REAL history.
Bad ad 2:27
Its hard to take any video seriously when it has such a MORONIC TITLE
What you don't hear, is the piss poor decisions by the US Navy commander caused this bad loss
Yes Scott probably would have trusted Fletcher and company to at launch launch torpedoes or their own targeting and hit the Japanese and get a few explosions from hits and cause Japanese to lose formation and as the hits scored the cruisers and destroyers could have hit the Japanese with gun fire earlier.
The AI can go to hell. Unsubscribed as I like real footage.
You can really tell the ai voice over kinda sucks
There's more ads than content. Channel really went downhill.
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Only to be relegated to second place on the grid, you have displeased the gods of RUclips and they are cruel in their swift retribution - oh the ignominy of their wrath 😱
You know it is said the early bird gets the worm but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese