The Thematic Brilliance of Jurassic Park | State of the Arc Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Jurassic Park is one of the most brilliant examples of how to incorporate the theme of your movie into every nook and cranny. It's mind blowing to see just how thematically consistent this movie is. Every scene adds to it yet detracts nothing whatsoever to the general plot or development of the characters. It is a masterpiece in so many ways. Come, watch our 4 hour celebration of this amazing film on its 30th anniversary. Leave a comment if you feel so inclined! Thanks for watching!
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I need to go watch this 2 hr movie now so I can enjoy this 4 hour podcast 😂
this but unironically
I assure you that after listening to the entire podcast the need to watch the movie again arises. And it is thoroughly enjoyable.
It kind of makes sense because it took more than 2 hours to create the movie, and it takes more than 2 hours to break it down.
Low key might be the best Resonant Arc analysis so far.
This is the only podcast that can point out new points of view and details about a movie that I watched more than 200 times.
Amazing
leave it to Jurassic friggin Park to bring out some of your guys best work. incredible episode and I'm only half way thru.
I'm blown away by the levels of purposefully placed subtext in this movie. It doesn't need it AT ALL, but it's fun that it's there if you look for it.
I love the passion coming from you guys here, even if its a little outside the usual focus of this channel. But discussing good storytelling tops all else and it works.
A sign of à good channel :making you read, play or watch what you never even considering in the first place.
(And im imagining how they would have a blast with Attack on Titan )
Jurassic Park is one of the most unbelievably good movies ever made. It's sort of amazing how well they made a movie that appeals to general audiences who want to be entertained and also the more thoughtful crowd who want to be intellectuslly invested. And by the end of the movie those groups feel very similar about the movie and even learn more about the other side.
Ian Malcom's line "Dr. Sattler, I refuse to believe you're unfamiliar with the concept of attraction?" is a play on the chaos theory concept of Attractors, like the strange attractor he mentions. It has to do with flow on a phase space (another concept he name drops). I never picked up on this line until studying math in college, which just shows how many levels this movie works on.
Can we get an FF9 deep analysis. Only cause it’s my favorite. Would love to hear you guys introspective take
One of myy favorite theatre experiences was going to see this, at night, and as you walked into a packed theatre, a massive TRex had his mouth opening above the door. I was hooked. The 90s were a time…
Never knew this movie was this deep. I played it on replay dozens of times and a young child.
More episodes like this please!!!!!!
I may be overanalizing but Hammond's cane looks like a magician staff, he even holds it like one at times, you could say in a way he is seen as some sort of techno-wizard, specially having in mind that the genetic knowledge on which the plot is based was at the time something new to the general public .
Finally an episode I can watch 😍🦕 🦖
I was 5 when I saw this in theaters and it changed my life. Frightened for sure but this is where I started to grow my appreciation for films. I come back to this every few years and I notice something I didn't notice before. A true masterpiece
It’s a little to fresh and everybody is literally talking their heads off about but I would really love for y’all to do a podcast on the entirety of “ATTACK ON TITAN”
Yes - this would fit their podcast series format perfectly! The only issue I see is that it is a ~90 episode long series, so it would be a very long time commitment... but the breadth of imagery, themes, philosophy, religion, etc. fits right in their wheelhouse. It'd be awesome to see, and at the very least, I'd love for them to watch it on their own time.
I've wanted to comment every 10 min or so with something that I related to but I'm just gonna say I really really enjoyed this. 😊
I love how Hammonds tour is manufactured and exposes the flaws. Like he assumes imprinting will make the dinosaurs easier to approach without understanding how they work.
Edit: Another thing i love is that Nedry and Hammond both act casual towards the other people in their introduced scene. As friendly as Hammond is, both he and Nedry don't respect Grant/Ellie or Dodgson presence, and both are involved with food or beverages in their introduced.
Another thing I noticed was Nedry makes others pay for his greed. His conversation with Dodgson could he viewed as foreshadowing how he gets others to deal with the consequences of his actions.
It’s Dodgson
This movie is one of my favorites and the books add so much more.
Mid 90s was a golden era of hollywood. It was when run times were the perfect length for three acts and movies had not gone overboard with CG. Big studios were also still willing to take on more chances.
I did not know I needed this in my life
As I child I was dinosaur obsessed and this movie blew my mind. Now as an adult I love the craft and creativity that goes into making amazing movies. Big thanks to you both for a great analysis and also everybody who voted to this on the poll.
This movie is so good!
I watched the original analysis before re watching the movie. Since then I rewatched it, and now I will watch the analysis again with the movie more fresh in mind. The discussion enhanced my appreciation for this movie I didn't think was possible!
Wow that part with the seatbelt is genius foreshadowing! I can’t believe I never realized that before
I probably already said it, but I'd vote for Labyrinth without a doubt if it ever shows up on the list.
One of my favorite movies, you guys rock as always
Regarding the symbolism of Grant losing the claw: We only see him wield it as a weapon against a child as way to create a barrier between him and the kid, or the future as you interpret his relationship.
His dropping it is his transition to loving kids and also evolving, to accepting the future, he doesnt need it to create the barrier anymore, to sever his relationship to children
Jurassic park applies to every aspect of modern life and how we as people treat nature, intelligence, looking down on even the people through the series.
On the "I hope we don't kill the movie." You don't for me because you don't talk about, say, behind the scenes of the movie. You talk about the symbolism, the nuances in body language and conversations that make me appreciate it on a deeper level than I haven't before. I thought I had Jacob's Ladder figured out, but after watching the podcast on it, I watched it again, and with my girlfriend for her first time. She really liked the movie and wasn't expecting something so cerebral.
Awesome video, this is a real master class on film appreciation!
Modern Film could never hope to reach the level of classic cinema in terms of its depth, photography, editing and creative direction. Man these movies were just really works of art. I miss this age of film making that pretty much started in 1970's with its pure realism and organic set pieces. its not the same any more with CGI, 3d animation, green screens and to much satire and over used special effects.
John Williams is the unsung hero of our generation.
He's the greatest living composer without a doubt.
Great podcast. I was 10 when the film came out, my parents wouldn't take me to the movies often but went to this one, im sure it influenced me more than im aware of, it was very impressive and at the time "dinosaur stuff" became really popular for several years. It was not a topic kids would know about.
I used to be subscribed to Disney Adventures and I felt like every other issue had dinosaur facts. :P
I personally feel kids can understand advanced concepts unconsciously even if your conscious mind doesnt. i think thats why 99's X-Men cartoon was so popular it didnt write down to kids.
Great comparison. That Xmen cartoon was very similar to this, always pushing forward it's themes, although those were even more complex than the ones in this movie.
Thanks guys for another cool podcast. Hope you and anyone reading this is having a good day.
Thank you!
When they are on the phone and Grant shoots through the glass, Hammond yells, "Grant!" I used to think he yelled "Run" but watching it again, he definitely says Grant's name. This is his final step in giving up on the park and caring more about people.
This was Great love these long form Podcasts.
The way you guys break down games and movies makes me want to learn how to see the "meaning of things" more intently instead of only enjoying something surface deep. Cheers!
This was such a fantastic analysis. Can't wait for you guys to do the other fantasy films you mentioned!
Hammond is screaming "Grant" in that moment.
The best compliment I can give here is that you both brought this movie I didn't really care for to life for me, decades after I had last watched it.
The day this released on VHS my Dad went and bought a massive surround sound system because it had blown him away in the theater and he wanted to experience it again.
I can’t wait to watch this movie again after listening to this!
That was a really interesting analysis! BTW I love all the ideas you guys threw around at the end, Dark Crystal, Princess Bride, and Fellowship of the Ring! Yes please!
thank you soo much for covering this movie,, its my all time favorite,and you guys analyzing it got me freaking thrilled, another wonderfull video
Great episode! I would highly recommend reading the book still. It gets into details like Hammond funding the digs because he would get bones from them to grind up into DNA and the visual acuity also being a result of amphibian DNA. That being said, this gave me a new appreciation for the movie in ways I hadn't thought of before!
Somehow I knew they would spend about a quarter of their time on the dinner scene.
I love you guys. These videos make my life so much more. Thank you so much :)
It is always so interesting to me that people watch movies without subtitles. Granted, I am a non-native speaker, but I speak, read and write English fluently, yet I could never hope to understand anything without subtitles.
That made the part of tonality, beat and flow in terms of spoken dialogue so interesting to me! Especially since watching and listening to long video essays and podcasts is a non-issue, but that shows so clearly the vast difference between the mediums.
I learned today, thanks for a great episode, guys. 🎉
Holy crap i stopped watching the channel for a bit (since the tactics ogre series you two did becuase i didnt want to spoil it for myself) and i come back to this crazy long talk about dinosaurs and also the start of FF:spirits within (great btw). You two keep the great work. Ive been a fan since a little before xenosaga that was done and i binged the earlier ones leading up to that. Keep it up!
You guys missed talking about the best shot in the movie. Where the rapter is looking up into the roof vent and has the symbols “GAATCC” all over its skin symbolizing the genetic code
I love the movie, but I wasn't expecting the most epic episode of this epic podcast! Thanks for the B-day/Christmas present!
Randomly stumbled across this video. Absolutely brilliant thank you
Okay but Cowboy Bebop still better be analyzed also. No less than a six hour video please.
One of, if not my favorite movies of all time! 😭 Had such an impact on my childhood and overall growing up experience. Very funny that you mentioned how you didn’t / misremembered the text until adding the subtitles, cause I misunderstood / misremembered a lot of the text also as a kid, but as I’ve grown up it just clicks and all of a sudden I was able to comprehend. Wild!
One of my favorite '90s memories as a kid is going to see Jurassic Park at the local mall theater with my family, then afterwards going into the arcade to play Mortal Kombat while Snow's "Informer" was playing.
One of my favorite movies, and (with the first Back To The Future) one that is worthy of the term "perfect" (even if it's not)
I've been trying to tell people for years how this movie is so much more than just a summer action/monster movie, which unfortunately is what all the sequels were. I was so disappointed in Jurassic World, where all the character were bored with dinosaurs, in contrast to Jurassic Park where half the movie is spent on building up how exciting and world changing this is, and seeing Alan Grants reaction to seeing them for the first time. They're excited, so you get excited watching it. And with Jurassic World, if the characters are so bored with dinosaurs, why should I be excited?
14:42 It's funny you mention that this is the first book you ever read with swear words, because I was just remembering that this was the case for me too lol. In fact, my mom made me take a black sharpie and blot out all the swears, which is funny to look back on now because I still have that paperback in my collection and it's funny to flip through it and see all those black marks. And yes, there were a lot of them! That sharpie got a lot of work. Such an innocent time, but I fell in love with reading and never stopped. Did put the sharpie down for the next book though, just don't tell my mom
Christmas came early and I got a gift I did not know I wanted
1:08:54 : When Mike talks about John Hammond pointing in the wrong direction in the helicopter. I never saw it as a "problem of continuity". To me John was like doing a move as if he was saying : "Do you hear that?/Can you feel it?" as if he could "FEEL" that they are approching the Island, like he doesn't even need to see, to be able to know (stressing the God thing haha). I don't know if I'm making myself clear haha.
2:21:40 : I never saw "discovery" as "limiting the concept of a thing and narrowing it down to what to it is vs what it could be" because the fact of "discovering" is first : "revealing something unknown, sometimes even by mistake" and with that "expending knowledge, fields, etc..." but of course the more you learn about that discovery, the more you end up at "the end of it". I mean, I discover new fields, new concepts, new facts, etc that I never knew even existed... all the time.
To a human lifetime point of view, the possibilities of discovery are almost endless. Even by watching your amazing podcast haha. For example I will always discover things. It's the fact of learning more about that thing once I know it exists that limits and narrows it down to what it is, once I'm an expert at it. Maybe I got it wrong. I even question myself thanks to your podcast, it's awsome ahaha.
But of course, if your starting point is "there is a given list of topics, subjects, fields, etc...to discover layed down by the univers" and we slowly check all the boxes, I guess I understand what you meant haha. (I'm having so much fun writing these comments ahaha)
Jurassic Park is my favorite movie alongside Alien. Now, I will know EXACTLY why haha.
He could’ve seen a piece of it off in the distance and knew that they were close too.
For the Unix system, it was a real Unix system, they used a Silicon Graphics workstation (using IRIX, the SGI System V based Unix) running the three dimensional file system browser FSN ("File System Navigator", pronounced "fusion"). Linux was released in 1991 and was no where near feature complete as it is now. This whole sequence was what broke the immersion as a 12 year old would not know what Unix was. The only people who knew Unix were people who worked on it for AT&T in the 1960-70's
Wow, very interesting! Thanks!
@@CasenSperry I forgot to mention...since you are using a Mac. MacOS is a Unix based system since its core and how it handles files is derived from it.
Love the podcast and your guys’ content!
PS: timestamps would be much appreciated! 😅
Love this movie ivwas 13 when it released i got brain tingles when you first see the brachiosaurus
Regarding if your analyses make things lose their meaning:
Definitely not! Your analyses of media hasn't killed anything for me, guys. If anything, this podcast for this movie proves exactly the opposite. You point out things about the movie that I've never even thought of before, and give it extra meaning. The same thing happened with Final Fantasy X. I already loved that game and consider it among my top 3 FFs ever, but your podcast on it really made me see and appreciate more things about it than I thought possible 20 years after it came out. Picking things apart can make some things seem worse than they actually are, but overall I think you've done a great service in making game and movie stories better, even if some of what you're covering don't always have the strongest backbone in storytelling.
Robert couldnt have known how the raptors hunt, because they are always been fed, they never had the chance to hunt. That is a line that was spoken earlier about the T Rex not eating the goat right away. Dont remember who said it but it was something along the lines of "the T Rex doesnt want to be fed, he wants to hunt"
That makes Robert's death make much more sense, he is a hunter, but he is no dino expert.
Jurassic Park 1 is in my top 5 films ever. It’s so ridiculously well made and holds up!!
Just wanted to start off by saying that I LOVE your RUclips channel! And I love that you are doing an in depth analysis of one of the greatest and most thought provoking movies of all time!
The scene with the T-Rex Paddock and as to where that giant drop was. I've actually been curious about that myself since I saw the movie years ago (back when it got released on VHS!) I am PROBABLY wrong, but I feel like that drop was somewhere on the other side of that highway. Based on the placement of the vehicles, my point could be argued. However, if you follow the scene, the way the T-Rex stares at the lawyer playfully before eating him, and the way it chases after the flares like a dog to a bouncing ball, I always thought of it as almost at times like, well, a playful puppy. I see no reason it couldn't drag or push the car to the other side of the highway.
Just a thought.
I think the Snake 🐍 is a reference to Eve because of Ellie's line: Dinosaur eats man woman inherits the earth. But the dinosaur's are female.
I read somewhere that we now work to get two weeks a year to live like our ancerstors did, aka fishing, camping, etc.
Hi guys ❤ finally my weekly dose of resonant arc.🤘
I'm 1 hour in and I'm loving it
It's funny with the DON'T!!! scene. I always heard it as GRANT!!!!! as in him screaming at Grant for killing the dinosaurs
I feel smarter listening to you guys. 😂 great podcast. Gunna go watch jurrasic park again now.
Was not prepared for this! Awesome!!!!
Phil Tippet. They actually made a system for him to manipulate models and have their motions translated to the computer. So he could be the pioneer of mo-cap
I would literally give anything on Earth to see you guys analyze "The Last Unicorn." Please consider it one day.
Wow you just uploaded this the day after I finished watching Spielberg’s 1941 film (totally bonkers movie) 😂
Grant and Ian waited a crazy amount of time to act when the Trex was trying to eat those kids.
It's probably far too late for this suggestion, since I'm not on the Patreon, and I assume this poll has gone up already, but one old fantasy movie that might be worth including on that list is Dragonslayer. It's no Lord of the Rings or Princess Bride, or anything, but it was pretty amazing for it's time, and Vermithrax basically defined what a dragon would look like on screen for generations.
Lindsey Ellis did a great video essay on the comparison between the book and movie on Nebula.
I am so excited for this thank you guys
The return of the resonant arc book club??? 😂 3:52:48 don't play with my heart guys
Great job guys…killed it like
Always!
Speaking of Christopher Nolan, I would LOVE to see you all analyze The Prestige.
An observation: we don't start out as "female by default". Embryos have their sex already determined by their genes (even in the cases of DSDs), but most of the reproductive structures are, technically speaking, sexually indifferent (aka, still have to develop one way or another).
Before sexual development/differentiation, we (mammals) have both Müllerian (F) and Wolffian (M) ducts. Everything else is indifferent (not male, nor female). The duct that doesn't develop, regresses. Female sexual development only begins when the male one doesn't (that is the trigger), not before. That's the nature (and wonderfulness) of a biological binary system.
The Vision based on movement was explained in the book, Grant notices the eyes of a frog on the Rex and deduced that it might share the frogs movement based vision.
Man, I can relate completely to not being able to enjoy stories the same way now.
You need to reread book or listen to to the audible version. Crichton wrote a masterpiece talking about the dangers of biotech, over reliance on machine, arrogance of scientists and while libertarian ideals fall apart. So many current day issues we still struggle with are addressed in that novel
I read it in junior high school. It was actually the book that got me into reading. I hated reading before I read that book. But I haven't read it since!
@@CasenSperry granted the work load you two pull is amazing so fitting it in would be difficult but I have found this book takes on new meaning with different stages of my life.
3:44:24 Hammond doesn't shout "Don't!"; he shouts "Grant!"
Doesn't really clarify the intent of the scene, but that's what he's shouting.
i just said to someone that godzilla minus one was the best monster movie since jurassic park. while we have people in hollywood making trash you have the japanese releasing a spielberg esque godzilla movie
Ian Malcolm isn’t against discovery or science he is against irresponsible pursuit of science in name of profits. The foreword of the book points this out by highlighting several real examples of bio tech companies using it for frivolous pursuits such as making trout easier to spot in streams for fishing
Great video
Hammond screams “Grant!” over the phone. Since he didn’t know they were being attacked and was stressed out about his grandkids. You guys were overthinking it lol
At least two of the iconic John Williams tracks in the movie could probably replace Pomp and Circumstance as the default graduation song. If this movie wasn't so iconic I think they could pull it off in a few decades. Haven't seen the movie in years but I have to say I still feel like Malcolm lured the T-Rex purely as a way to steal glory away from Alan. Looking back you could probably read his motivations in multiple ways that don't make him look like a valor-starved weirdo, but I always read it as him being selfish in the most selfless of ways. I don't know how else to phrase that lol. Great analysis of a great film.
Regarding literary analysis: As someone who sees the seams in movies/shows/whatever more and more, I can say that I still come away from all your series with a deeper appreciation for the subject. If I had to guess, I'd say it's because you guys don't just point out the structure and mechanics of the stories, you also take seriously what's happening in the story from the perspective of the characters. If coldly discussing the structure and mechanics leaves the patient dead, immersing the audience in what the characters think/feel/do brings it to life more than ever!
Regarding scientific communication: As an anthropological archaeologist, lots of people in the field today operate under the assumption that we're by no means reconstructing a definitive picture of the past--we're making the best models we can for the past. It's hard, highly uncertain, and subject to change. Hell, people can barely do that for the present, where we can talk to people directly! It's definitely not something that gets discussed widely though, which is a problem.
I remember when I was TAing a course during grad school and an undergrad asked "How do we really know that?" My response seemed like the first time anyone had told them that we don't really know, we're just inferring what we can from limited data. The students in that room were momentarily shocked, but they all seemed to quickly take away an important and new epistemic understanding. I don't think we should be so afraid to admit it, but here we are. It's similar to how science is treated as this infallible thing, when the scientific method itself is largely about progress in understanding through invalidating things--proving something wrong about the current understanding. I'm obviously pro-science, but I wish we taught people the unvarnished truth rather than fairy tales, at least by college... Would some marginal amount of people be more dismissive of it? Probably, though the current narrative doesn't stop some people from doing that anyway. I think an unvarnished picture would lead to fewer skewed assumptions overall.
Anyway, this was an exceptional ep! Really deepened my already deep appreciation of this movie.
The UNIX system in use was IRIX. It was a real UNIX derived system.
Keep Standing Up, shoutout Kale
I'm the same age as Mike, my dad took my brother, his friends and me to go see Starship Troopers when it came out. Except we didn't leave. And I grew up in a household that more or less did have things pretty restricted. I think Starship Troopers was just this anomaly because my dad wasn't familiar with Paul Verhoven, it's the 90s. We didn't have cable, and our movies are a small VHS collection that were PG13 at their heaviest. You just don't know what you're in for if you don't have the film history knowledge that I have now. The trailers made it looks like a fun space movie, lol.