The double tap to the back of the head at the end always gets me🤣 For sure, the explainer vid does the damage, this video is just therapy for Ren getting it out and having fun at the same time. Plus we fans all get to enjoy the fun as well.
Someone said it’s the same choir? Wonder if a similar offer to put out a track as a recompense was agreed with a share of any monies earned from this track?
@theragingviking9177 why are you telling me that? Just because I don't like a certain rapper doesn't mean I am heartless. I'm not the nicest person in the world and we all can have a kinder heart but I don't think I said anything to warrant being told that. If you like Dotta the good for you, go rock his music. Has nothing to do with me or my opinion!
Cliff Beats said on their podcast that he heard a rumor that Kujo and his attorney has done this before. Tries to shake down artists after their song blows up a little because the artists get scared so they'll just pay him so they don't lose their song.
In rens explanation video kujo literally said in the messages that, "this wasn't the first time this has happened," so it definitely happened before. Now kujo got caught lol 😆
Renegade from Australia here, I’ve watched REN’s beatdown multiple times. I love it! Now I’m watching every reactor watching it too ❤ thanks for having REN’s back, I love your stuff!
Ren's first diss track: shows love, shows mercy, raises a man like he's the second coming. Ren's second diss track: Sodom and Gomorrah, wrath of god, pillars of salt.
And the choir lies dead to Kujos feet. 😂 Because he killed his own beat. Now we get Sick Boi with another beat. Because sick boi isnt dead, just takes a transformation pause. 😁
@@usa4freedom1 Theres more to what they're saying, I can't make out the first part (its clearest to me when 'Kujo' is getting dragged out). At ~1:17 (*Edit: in the original song, idk the time here, replying in the dropdown), they definitely say "stealing samples, ____ people" blank could also be stealing, or stoning? its another 'S'. After that it seems to repeat with the part I can't make out. It seems to change when Ren starts overlapping again, can't tell that either tho
dude, this is my 3rd time watching this video and I'm getting shivers the more I watch it. This sick little puppy is more like a rabid pit bull...just...damn...
fr, the way i see it is, if you got Ren mad at you then you absolutely have it coming. the dude is deep down Canadian i swear, he is that nice. you really have to go the extra mile to get someone like Ren this mad.
@@davidperkins6752 Ren the secret, undercover Canadian, lol. I have a nice person in my life and know the consequences of pushing too far. Smart people only do it once.
Ren said that making thins song was cathartic for him and watching all of the reactions to this video and seeing all of the comments from the Renegades, it is clear that this release is cathartic for all of us!
Kujo is literally one of those who cut the throat of the industry and he tried to bleed the art for wealth, which is truly ironic, but he underestimated the genius and true artistry of Ren who beat the greed with pure talent. It's amazing how Ren can change adversities into opportunities, bless you man, the song is a total banger.
I watched this video open-mouthed, especially because I knew the back story. Loved it, Ren really let rip and it was great to watch, the visuals were amazing! It will be interesting to see how many views this gets? Now for Part 2?? Cheers Anthony, thanks for this reaction! 😊👍
I love that Ren is still so real. He's human too. Too bad some fools out there forgot that part. But it sure made us Renegades happy !! Thanks, Ren. Thanks, Anthony too. Love how honest you are as well.... ❤😊
I really hope this gives Kujo some retrospection. A diss track this savage has never been more deserved. And the references he puts in here are mad, even down to the piano line that is reminiscent of money game after he talks about Jimmy and the cookie jar.
Vid for this has been out for 7 hours at this point and already has 341k views. Mind blowing that Ren gave Kujo the option to do a full collab and Kujo refused.
Kujo just gave Ren possibly one of his biggest songs. The irony that Ren offered a 50/50 master deal on a future work. So just let Sick Boi be and make something together, bigger and better but Kujo rejected it for a short term gain which has ended due to the song going now. Beat Down is gonna be huge.
I think he might not have time to wait for any future profits due to the sample thing. Also I kind of see how a promise of future profits is less appealing when you haven´t yet been paid the previous money you are owed.
Valid points if you were the person in the right, but he was a theif acting like a prick with a chance to be rewarded for bs behavior/actions and still chose not take it.
@@christopherlevere1978 I mean I would assume those are at least some of the reasons. Whether they are valid or not is of course up for everyone to decide.
@@timmokoo5679he’s lucky that Ren is even entertaining paying him the agreed publishing money. The moron voided the contract when he knowingly sold him a track with a stolen sample in bad faith and then came after ren demanding money he has no claim to while holding his song hostage. Dude is a greedy prick who got caught with $$ in his eyes the second one of his beats didn’t die sad and alone on someone’s SoundCloud
The thing is, Ren himself is not likely to be found liable for anything & if Kujo takes anyone to court, the only people who made any mistakes were the publishing company. They don’t own part of the master, so there’s no way that could be successfully litigated at all. You can sue anyone for anything, but it doesn’t mean that it will get heard by the court, or that you’ll win if the suit goes forward on some technicality. At that point, if it’s shown that the person brought the suit with “unclean hands” (meaning they are suing without any legal grounds or in bad faith), the person bringing the suit can be liable for the other person’s legal fees. There’s also the separate issue of the copyright strike itself, which wasn’t brought in good faith. On the other hand, Ren could easily take Kujo to court for selling him an unlimited license on a beat with an uncleared sample. He also could win against the girlfriend for defamation since she has lied about the contract, which was extremely stupid. If the people who own the Bulgarian sample sue, they could also easily win against Kujo, since he used their work without clearing it.
Ren creates musical theatre. "Hi Ren" felt like that too. I am not getting involved in the dispute between two parties - as you say - Ren can look after himself. Even better - Ren can make his own beats - who needs who more? Grief - he is so creative. Thanks for your commentary - balanced and informative
Thanks for your reaction. I'm guessing this video & the precursor explaining why "Sick Boi" was taken down are going to feed each other. Obviously, those of us who watched the earlier explanation are tuning in today to watch "Kujo Beatdown" and multiple reactions thereto. But, as people's feeds start filling up with reactions, I bet more people will go back to the earlier video to get the back story. I agree with you that the explanation video will prove more damaging, though.
Him not having the hindsight to collab with ren & split it 50/50. The amount of his fans that he giving up. The musicians that would want him to work them now. Is crazy to not realize that!
You trying not to smirk... 😂 Thank you for the reaction & sharing the moment. We all knew it would be epic. The whole situation has been ridiculous & Ren just shows how IT IS DONE! ✅🎉❤
Great to watch this again with you. Definitely a good one. First diss track ever I waited for. I know I’m not the only one. Beware the dragon that dwell inside the quiet ones. Respect
Bravo Ren, this was another example of the high level of talent he possesses, along with his production team and videographer! I'm glad he expressed his anger and frustration through his music and artistic performance! I hope things resolve and look forward to more creative works! Thanks Anthony for your reaction ❤
I've already watched this live during the premiere, then again on twitch. Then several times after, in the car, and now reaction videos, and I get goosebumps every time still!
appreciate you giving us a reminder to let it be . Ren has demonstrated clearly that he can fight his own battles. admirably I'd say. He said this one was angry. Rightly so.
I like the way that you explain this as "just hip hop" to help keep things in perspective because this piece is obviously high energy "get the blood pumping" aggression, but don't need a bunch of lunatics going mob crazy as a result. Unfortunately, there will still be those few that have to try to be heroes to feed their own egos. Agreed that the business side of this mess is being handled. Ren is brilliant and quite capable of taking care of business. Karma is the justice that happens automatically and independently. You are so chill and such a great role model for others, especially your children. Keep doing you, AR! ❤
On Kujo's money - The publisher might have grounds to withhold this money now. Ren and/or Kujo owes 50% of everything to the choir. It's a completely different industry, but at my job we move around money so it may be applicable. We wouldn't release funds to another party if there is an ongoing dispute over something significant. A copyright claim where Kujo might owe us more money than we are due him sounds very serious. You can kick and scream and go to lawyers all you want. We will be trying to resolve the actual dispute while you do this process. It's likely going to be resolved before you get anywhere with the courts. The outcome on who owes who doesn't matter. We would much rather pay interest on top of the money we owe you. Than give you this money, only to ask for it all back, and never see it again.
I think that is probably the reason the publisher has not been in hurry to solve this. And of course now the is also a dispute of what portion should be paid too, he will probably get not money until that is agreed.
@@timmokoo5679 The copyright infringement, in my basic view, lies solely with Kujo. The money that the copyright holder is going to need to be paid from somewhere will be astronomical compared to Kujos earning. What I would guess ends up happening; Kujo gets no money at all. All of his money goes to the rights holder. Ren will have to cover whatever is missing. The holder doesn’t care where the money comes from, someone will have to pay it. Then Ren will have to sue Kujo, since was he was at fault. And he could probably claim way more than what he had to cover off. Kujo cost him not only this, all future earnings, public image etc. I don’t know who’s advising him to do any of this, but every single thing he has done has made it worse. I’m guessing he lives somewhere he thinks he can get away with it?
@@AayJayEmm Yea, the copyright infringement is on Kujo, I think everyone (except Kujo and his lawyer of course) agrees on that. It was a clear violation of the contract and nobody is denying it happened. I agree with your prediction but I think what might explain Kujo´s actions a bit is the fact that his lawyer works for beatstars and beatstars is not gonna suffer at all if Kujo takes a huge financial hit (and he is not gonna have money to pay for it). For beatstars the main thing is that a sale on their website follows their contract. Kujo getting destroyed over a stolen sample is not their problem (in fact, it might even benefit them). I think their main motivation is to ensure Kujo gets all the money that that their contract says he is owed.
@@timmokoo5679 Him having the same lawyer as Beatstars sounds like a massive conflict of interest, so not sure if that is true. I mean, If I was his lawyer he is getting thrown under the bus to protect them... that might be what's happening now I think of it. If I was representing Beatstars, I would say "The contract stated there was to be no unlicensed material sold. You breached this. Goodbye." They look good from that.
Love everything about this video from ren (and Samuel ofcourse) . Even without the context it's a pretty good song and a 🔥-video. But with context: this might actually be one of his best video's 👌 Thank you for this reaction video ❤
You asked who produced it, Ren did himself and wrote it himself etc... all himself... didnt need to steal anything 😂❤ And yeah the start is like hi ren but this time the dark side takes over 😅
The money Kujo is/was owed is nothing to do with Ren it is who ever deals with publishing. Ren offered 50% ownership on a MASTER of a BRAND NEW track, written together, providing sick boi of taken off the table and the video was reinstated. But yeah, even without this absolute belter of a disstrack, no one will trust him again!
Ten dropping another mothaf***ing banger! Kujo better stay silent after this one. Also I don’t know if it’s just me reading this but in the back there’s 7 choir members and I won’t spoil it but is he representing the 7 sins and how he likes to speak up against it in a lot of videos?! AR I love the reactions and hope you have a blessed day as REN has blessed mine today with this track
Whatever Kujo is owed he is owed from the publishers not Ren. Ren paid for the beat not knowing it had a stolen sample in it plus it states in the contract quite clearly that the onus is on the Publisher to clear any samples not the purchaser/artist. Now the choir have come for Kujo and want their royalty cut he's coming for Ren
Sure it is owed by the publisher but in his defense, the publisher was the one he (or his lawyer rather) was trying to sort it out with. Ren seems to have nothing wrong here but that doesn´t change the fact that there is a valid dispute over the beat.
@@portiadavenport9866 Well it is true that Ren would not really need to be involved in this at all, this all could technically be sorted out without him. And apparently that was what they were trying to do since nobody informed him.
This piece is basically a victory jig over kujobeats and also over the Bulgarian choir. They are all down and out of the sick boi business, while Ren is standing and laughing at them and dancing on their grave.
If Ren were able to get the Romanian Choir to perform on his upcoming new version of Sic Boi....it would be sick. And fitting, considering it was their stolen sample which started this whole mess.
I've been looking for your reaction. I'm going through my fav reactors who seem to (in my opinion) truly GET Ren. You're one of those! I'm ready. Let's GO!! As I thought, you nailed it. Great insights! I think MY two favorite things (even though the whole thing is amazing) are the piano backing, and the little tap/slap on the head at the very end. That is SO demeaning, it speaks LOUDLY that Kujo is no more than a pesky punk. Great reaction!
Director: Ren Editor: Ren
Songwriter: Ren Music Producer: Ren
Mixed & Mastered by: Ren
And shot by Samuel Perry-Falvey
@@claframboise absolutely, but I was just highlighting that this video was Ren's
@@sharis9095 for sure. 👌
Ren is clearly capable of fighting his own battles.
Ren was battling demons for decade, beating Kujo is no sweat bro. 😎
FACT!!!
Edgar Allen Poe would approve. 😮
The problem is when it starts to feel like the stream of mean and greedy people are endless. (Which it is).
The double tap to the back of the head at the end always gets me🤣 For sure, the explainer vid does the damage, this video is just therapy for Ren getting it out and having fun at the same time. Plus we fans all get to enjoy the fun as well.
The slaps on the head remind me of Benny Hill. LOL
Right!!! Lol
@@rewop300OMG Yes... Lol!!!
Yes Yes yes!!!!!!
I came on here to say the same! I properly chuckled at that!
Using a choir when that was the stolen sample....love his thought process
Someone said it’s the same choir? Wonder if a similar offer to put out a track as a recompense was agreed with a share of any monies earned from this track?
@@Griff78 Not the same choir, but they're singing "stolen sample" 🤣🤣 Ren is a genius.
The dead choir is just Chefs Kiss!!!
On the word 'Legally' too, emphasizing the uncleared sample to begin with. Genius.
Ren was like Dis Track? Naw, Dis Theater Experience that people will remember and show to their friends. Ren goes hard
Dotta had a huge smile reacting to this, when he got a shout out, he loved it.
Of course he did. He’s nothing without Ren. Actually makes me sick
@timbrown6715 yep but you know Ren and his big heart!
@@19holly19 Yeah, try to learn from it
@theragingviking9177 why are you telling me that? Just because I don't like a certain rapper doesn't mean I am heartless. I'm not the nicest person in the world and we all can have a kinder heart but I don't think I said anything to warrant being told that. If you like Dotta the good for you, go rock his music. Has nothing to do with me or my opinion!
Written, produced, mixed & mastered by Ren, he's so incredibly talented and skilled.
What an artist
If Kujo stole once he’s probably done it before and will probably do it again. Nobody will want to take a chance with him.
not to mention it could be perceived that he's trying to publicly "steal" from ren rn...
Cliff Beats said on their podcast that he heard a rumor that Kujo and his attorney has done this before. Tries to shake down artists after their song blows up a little because the artists get scared so they'll just pay him so they don't lose their song.
In rens explanation video kujo literally said in the messages that, "this wasn't the first time this has happened," so it definitely happened before. Now kujo got caught lol 😆
I watched it 15 times and now I'm watching Reactors!!!
REN IS BEYOND GENIUS❤
Only 15 ? Lol .
Renegade from Australia here, I’ve watched REN’s beatdown multiple times. I love it! Now I’m watching every reactor watching it too ❤ thanks for having REN’s back, I love your stuff!
Ren's first diss track: shows love, shows mercy, raises a man like he's the second coming.
Ren's second diss track: Sodom and Gomorrah, wrath of god, pillars of salt.
love how it all started about the choir sample and now this one has the choir in the back
took me a good 10 listens to realize the choir is singing about stealing samples
@@phil1500I can’t figure out what they’re saying! I hear the word “sample” but I can’t get the rest. Do you know?🌸
Yeah please share there is so much going on and the synths and instrumentals I couldn't understand the choir
And the choir lies dead to Kujos feet. 😂
Because he killed his own beat.
Now we get Sick Boi with another beat. Because sick boi isnt dead, just takes a transformation pause. 😁
@@usa4freedom1 Theres more to what they're saying, I can't make out the first part (its clearest to me when 'Kujo' is getting dragged out). At ~1:17 (*Edit: in the original song, idk the time here, replying in the dropdown), they definitely say "stealing samples, ____ people" blank could also be stealing, or stoning? its another 'S'. After that it seems to repeat with the part I can't make out. It seems to change when Ren starts overlapping again, can't tell that either tho
dude, this is my 3rd time watching this video and I'm getting shivers the more I watch it. This sick little puppy is more like a rabid pit bull...just...damn...
@@mattmorrisson9607 same. I'm a Grannie and i'm furious!
Ren in beast mode
Making nice people angry is tough but once you do watch out.
fr, the way i see it is, if you got Ren mad at you then you absolutely have it coming. the dude is deep down Canadian i swear, he is that nice. you really have to go the extra mile to get someone like Ren this mad.
@@davidperkins6752 Ren the secret, undercover Canadian, lol. I have a nice person in my life and know the consequences of pushing too far. Smart people only do it once.
Like he said in "Hi Ren".
The brighter the light, the darker the shadow. And Ren is one extremely bright light.
Kujo walked into a killing field.
@@slate613 some people don’t get that ‘nice’ doesn’t mean weak. Just because they don’t start fights doesn’t mean they can’t finish them. 👊🏼
Beware the fury of a patient man.
He hired his own choir for this one!
I so wish he had been able to hire that same Bulgarian choir just to prove it wasn't that hard to pay them their due and clear their work.
The 'choir' are all Rens mates dressed up as a choir 😊
Ren said that making thins song was cathartic for him and watching all of the reactions to this video and seeing all of the comments from the Renegades, it is clear that this release is cathartic for all of us!
Kujo is literally one of those who cut the throat of the industry and he tried to bleed the art for wealth, which is truly ironic, but he underestimated the genius and true artistry of Ren who beat the greed with pure talent.
It's amazing how Ren can change adversities into opportunities, bless you man, the song is a total banger.
WHOLE body chills. Fucking EPIC!!!
Damn! I was expecting angry, but wasn't ready for this!
I like your reaction :)
The fact Ren allows reaction vids on ALL of his stuff is so good :)
Ren. Did produce this him self.
I watched this video open-mouthed, especially because I knew the back story. Loved it, Ren really let rip and it was great to watch, the visuals were amazing! It will be interesting to see how many views this gets? Now for Part 2?? Cheers Anthony, thanks for this reaction! 😊👍
I love that Ren is still so real. He's human too. Too bad some fools out there forgot that part. But it sure made us Renegades happy !! Thanks, Ren. Thanks, Anthony too. Love how honest you are as well.... ❤😊
You Echo my sentiments too!
Its on over half a million views in 18 hours
I really hope this gives Kujo some retrospection. A diss track this savage has never been more deserved. And the references he puts in here are mad, even down to the piano line that is reminiscent of money game after he talks about Jimmy and the cookie jar.
This has so much power released. His twisting of Hi Ren and the money game 3 warning plus the money game 1 walk. Seeing the choir ended too. Sublime.
Your diplomacy is on another level here, well done 😂. But yeah it’s clear Kujo had this coming.
Vid for this has been out for 7 hours at this point and already has 341k views. Mind blowing that Ren gave Kujo the option to do a full collab and Kujo refused.
As Ren, me, you I'm sure all Renegades know, and have said...
A rising tide lifts all ships.
❤ from Northeast England ❤️
Kujo just gave Ren possibly one of his biggest songs. The irony that Ren offered a 50/50 master deal on a future work. So just let Sick Boi be and make something together, bigger and better but Kujo rejected it for a short term gain which has ended due to the song going now. Beat Down is gonna be huge.
Gone too far for that
I think he might not have time to wait for any future profits due to the sample thing. Also I kind of see how a promise of future profits is less appealing when you haven´t yet been paid the previous money you are owed.
Valid points if you were the person in the right, but he was a theif acting like a prick with a chance to be rewarded for bs behavior/actions and still chose not take it.
@@christopherlevere1978 I mean I would assume those are at least some of the reasons. Whether they are valid or not is of course up for everyone to decide.
@@timmokoo5679he’s lucky that Ren is even entertaining paying him the agreed publishing money. The moron voided the contract when he knowingly sold him a track with a stolen sample in bad faith and then came after ren demanding money he has no claim to while holding his song hostage. Dude is a greedy prick who got caught with $$ in his eyes the second one of his beats didn’t die sad and alone on someone’s SoundCloud
the choir vocals are just a cherry on top🤌
Thanks for supporting Ren💕👍🦇
Great reaction, loving all the Ren support in the reaction community
The thing is, Ren himself is not likely to be found liable for anything & if Kujo takes anyone to court, the only people who made any mistakes were the publishing company. They don’t own part of the master, so there’s no way that could be successfully litigated at all.
You can sue anyone for anything, but it doesn’t mean that it will get heard by the court, or that you’ll win if the suit goes forward on some technicality. At that point, if it’s shown that the person brought the suit with “unclean hands” (meaning they are suing without any legal grounds or in bad faith), the person bringing the suit can be liable for the other person’s legal fees. There’s also the separate issue of the copyright strike itself, which wasn’t brought in good faith.
On the other hand, Ren could easily take Kujo to court for selling him an unlimited license on a beat with an uncleared sample. He also could win against the girlfriend for defamation since she has lied about the contract, which was extremely stupid.
If the people who own the Bulgarian sample sue, they could also easily win against Kujo, since he used their work without clearing it.
Here to support from Finland! This is fire! 🔥🔥🔥
Ren creates musical theatre. "Hi Ren" felt like that too. I am not getting involved in the dispute between two parties - as you say - Ren can look after himself. Even better - Ren can make his own beats - who needs who more?
Grief - he is so creative.
Thanks for your commentary - balanced and informative
This is Diss Theatre
Love the Benny Hill Head slap at the end! 😂
Fist in my mouth the first time,and it stayed there every time I went back and watched again and again.... king of the pen
This was worth the wait and was fire 🔥 maybe kujo will think twice before bullying in the future
Thanks for your reaction. I'm guessing this video & the precursor explaining why "Sick Boi" was taken down are going to feed each other. Obviously, those of us who watched the earlier explanation are tuning in today to watch "Kujo Beatdown" and multiple reactions thereto. But, as people's feeds start filling up with reactions, I bet more people will go back to the earlier video to get the back story. I agree with you that the explanation video will prove more damaging, though.
Him not having the hindsight to collab with ren & split it 50/50. The amount of his fans that he giving up. The musicians that would want him to work them now. Is crazy to not realize that!
Yeah but he thinks Ren's music sucks of course...
You trying not to smirk... 😂
Thank you for the reaction & sharing the moment. We all knew it would be epic. The whole situation has been ridiculous & Ren just shows how IT IS DONE! ✅🎉❤
Great to watch this again with you. Definitely a good one. First diss track ever I waited for. I know I’m not the only one. Beware the dragon that dwell inside the quiet ones. Respect
If I was an artist I wouldn't want to be in Ren's bad graces, just saying!
💙💙💙🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥
Ren did it he’s not doing anyone’s production anymore
This was crazy🤯 Thx for the reaction!!❤
First reaction I've seen so far! Let's gooo!!
The offer Ren came up with would've help make Kujos career, a new song with master split. Instead, their downfall becomes immortalized.
That little slap slap at the end gets me every time 😂❤
Bravo Ren, this was another example of the high level of talent he possesses, along with his production team and videographer! I'm glad he expressed his anger and frustration through his music and artistic performance! I hope things resolve and look forward to more creative works! Thanks Anthony for your reaction ❤
I've already watched this live during the premiere, then again on twitch. Then several times after, in the car, and now reaction videos, and I get goosebumps every time still!
Missed your reactions on the last two collabs! So glad you’re here
appreciate you giving us a reminder to let it be . Ren has demonstrated clearly that he can fight his own battles. admirably I'd say. He said this one was angry. Rightly so.
That "Kujo Bro" @11:50 teared me up (< laughter)
REN’s Righteous Rage is awesome to behold, thanks for the support ❤
I like the way that you explain this as "just hip hop" to help keep things in perspective because this piece is obviously high energy "get the blood pumping" aggression, but don't need a bunch of lunatics going mob crazy as a result. Unfortunately, there will still be those few that have to try to be heroes to feed their own egos. Agreed that the business side of this mess is being handled. Ren is brilliant and quite capable of taking care of business. Karma is the justice that happens automatically and independently.
You are so chill and such a great role model for others, especially your children. Keep doing you, AR! ❤
On Kujo's money - The publisher might have grounds to withhold this money now. Ren and/or Kujo owes 50% of everything to the choir. It's a completely different industry, but at my job we move around money so it may be applicable. We wouldn't release funds to another party if there is an ongoing dispute over something significant. A copyright claim where Kujo might owe us more money than we are due him sounds very serious.
You can kick and scream and go to lawyers all you want. We will be trying to resolve the actual dispute while you do this process. It's likely going to be resolved before you get anywhere with the courts. The outcome on who owes who doesn't matter. We would much rather pay interest on top of the money we owe you. Than give you this money, only to ask for it all back, and never see it again.
I think that is probably the reason the publisher has not been in hurry to solve this. And of course now the is also a dispute of what portion should be paid too, he will probably get not money until that is agreed.
@@timmokoo5679 The copyright infringement, in my basic view, lies solely with Kujo. The money that the copyright holder is going to need to be paid from somewhere will be astronomical compared to Kujos earning.
What I would guess ends up happening; Kujo gets no money at all. All of his money goes to the rights holder. Ren will have to cover whatever is missing. The holder doesn’t care where the money comes from, someone will have to pay it. Then Ren will have to sue Kujo, since was he was at fault. And he could probably claim way more than what he had to cover off. Kujo cost him not only this, all future earnings, public image etc. I don’t know who’s advising him to do any of this, but every single thing he has done has made it worse. I’m guessing he lives somewhere he thinks he can get away with it?
@@AayJayEmm Yea, the copyright infringement is on Kujo, I think everyone (except Kujo and his lawyer of course) agrees on that. It was a clear violation of the contract and nobody is denying it happened. I agree with your prediction but I think what might explain Kujo´s actions a bit is the fact that his lawyer works for beatstars and beatstars is not gonna suffer at all if Kujo takes a huge financial hit (and he is not gonna have money to pay for it). For beatstars the main thing is that a sale on their website follows their contract. Kujo getting destroyed over a stolen sample is not their problem (in fact, it might even benefit them). I think their main motivation is to ensure Kujo gets all the money that that their contract says he is owed.
@@timmokoo5679 Him having the same lawyer as Beatstars sounds like a massive conflict of interest, so not sure if that is true. I mean, If I was his lawyer he is getting thrown under the bus to protect them... that might be what's happening now I think of it.
If I was representing Beatstars, I would say "The contract stated there was to be no unlicensed material sold. You breached this. Goodbye." They look good from that.
I like your shirt🥰And Ren video is crazy good!!!
This is insane🔥🔥🔥
I saw a comment from Sam on Ren's video saying they had made a wicked video, so I think he must have been in on the Production of this.
Yes I saw that comment on the YT live chat from Samual
Respect for your final words fella. Class.
Angry REN is 🔥
Love everything about this video from ren (and Samuel ofcourse) . Even without the context it's a pretty good song and a 🔥-video. But with context: this might actually be one of his best video's 👌
Thank you for this reaction video ❤
Go Ray!
Hey Anthony! I love your reaction videos and Ren content! This video was crazy intense.. I love it! 🤍
Glad you did this. Worth a follow.
I love the choir background since thats what the claim is about with kujo and bulgarian choir
fantastic reaction ty!!
Love you man, in depth great review as always 🤟🏻
Go Ren 🔥👌With genius lyrics to situation & with 🎻& choir, & 🎭 what a production 🎥, Thanks AR for having Ren's back 👏👏
thank you for this renaction!
Absolutely loved your reaction ❤ thank you Anthony❤
Algo bump! Thanks AR for the great analysis and reaction. It’s a great way to express yourself (in the art). Much love and have a great day!
You asked who produced it, Ren did himself and wrote it himself etc... all himself... didnt need to steal anything 😂❤
And yeah the start is like hi ren but this time the dark side takes over 😅
Iol, true, it's a different kind of beast battling other peoples demons, we all need that dragon to come out at times 🔥
The money Kujo is/was owed is nothing to do with Ren it is who ever deals with publishing. Ren offered 50% ownership on a MASTER of a BRAND NEW track, written together, providing sick boi of taken off the table and the video was reinstated.
But yeah, even without this absolute belter of a disstrack, no one will trust him again!
Literal poetic justice.
I loved this so much!
This is definitely a next level beat down!
OMG I love this!!! Every review I am seeing tonight is the best ever :) KUJO...please, please poke the wolf...I want part 2!!!!
The choir in the background (The uncleared beat was a choir) so that ties that in.
This is such an amazing track🔥❤️
Thank you, loved your reaction. did anyone understand what the choir is singing starting at 3:06 ?
Great reaction. Always love your insights. You da GOAT on reactions. 🩵🩵🩵
#Renagades Elastic bands only stretch so far and then SNAP!
🔥🔥Cheers from the outback RENegade 🦘🦘
Did Ren just invent 'Diss Theatre'?🤔
I haven’t smiled so much in along time❤
Ten dropping another mothaf***ing banger! Kujo better stay silent after this one. Also I don’t know if it’s just me reading this but in the back there’s 7 choir members and I won’t spoil it but is he representing the 7 sins and how he likes to speak up against it in a lot of videos?! AR I love the reactions and hope you have a blessed day as REN has blessed mine today with this track
That "f-- it" from nice Ren. He letting the darkness win, and we already know he's a murrderrrrr!
Thank you AR.
Love the shout out to King Dotta - he must have been chuffed ie pleased
Whatever Kujo is owed he is owed from the publishers not Ren. Ren paid for the beat not knowing it had a stolen sample in it plus it states in the contract quite clearly that the onus is on the Publisher to clear any samples not the purchaser/artist. Now the choir have come for Kujo and want their royalty cut he's coming for Ren
Sure it is owed by the publisher but in his defense, the publisher was the one he (or his lawyer rather) was trying to sort it out with. Ren seems to have nothing wrong here but that doesn´t change the fact that there is a valid dispute over the beat.
@@timmokoo5679 that there may be but the dispute isn't and shouldn't be with Ren as per the terms of beatstars contract
@@portiadavenport9866 Well it is true that Ren would not really need to be involved in this at all, this all could technically be sorted out without him. And apparently that was what they were trying to do since nobody informed him.
This piece is basically a victory jig over kujobeats and also over the Bulgarian choir. They are all down and out of the sick boi business, while Ren is standing and laughing at them and dancing on their grave.
Ren has no issues with the choir . They have no issues with ren . It's just kujo.
The Bulgarian choir are all dressed in white. White is the colour of innocence and purity.
Thank you!
Anthony saw the first 10 seconds of the video and said "yeah, this coffee is gonna need something stronger"
Found your channel today and it already led me to Falling in Reverse and now Ren. Been a great day lol
Thanks Ray. Fire.
If Ren were able to get the Romanian Choir to perform on his upcoming new version of Sic Boi....it would be sick. And fitting, considering it was their stolen sample which started this whole mess.
I've been looking for your reaction. I'm going through my fav reactors who seem to (in my opinion) truly GET Ren. You're one of those! I'm ready. Let's GO!! As I thought, you nailed it. Great insights! I think MY two favorite things (even though the whole thing is amazing) are the piano backing, and the little tap/slap on the head at the very end. That is SO demeaning, it speaks LOUDLY that Kujo is no more than a pesky punk. Great reaction!