When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind. - J. Krishnamurti
❤ Krishnamurti had the most boundless mind ever. I dig hard his teachings, and the more I dig, I discover how he went far away, and discovered everything others have said all by himself, without having to learn from nobody. So, he teach us one only lesson, like: Do like I did: "Be the only light to yourself, not from others". So, each person must discover by itself, bypass the lies of thought, and then you will discover a whole new reality not accessible by another way. It's so hard and so easy at the same time. We don't need to learn anything, on the contrary, we need to get rid of all our conditioning imposed by education, society, dogmas and instituted religions. Meditation is not sitting down for 5 minutes, meditation is a state of being. Always. And love is the supreme intelligence. 🎉❤❤❤❤❤
@@srinivasashree0000 😂 people want to follow... they want to look to someone to tell them what to think... I nothing against Sadhguru, but yea he is smart entrepreneur lol
I don't who brainwashed these silly people or in which scripture it is written that a businessmen cannot be a guru. Sadhguru is a Grihastha yogi so it is his dharma to feed his family so he has right to earn through business or employment or whatever legal means he think is right for him. artha/earnings is one of the 4 pillars of sanatan dharma for a grihastha yogi. an unmarried virgin sanyasi can skip 2 pillars after dharma can proceed direct to Moksha. these ignorant people are confused and mixing roles of both Grihastha and Sanyasi and character assassinating Sadhguru even if they don't have any authority or authenticity of themselves.
All words, alphabets, letters, numbers, symbols and images are illusion, not reality, and therefore are magic. Everyone who thinks in words and images is dancing with darkness.
@@jivanvasant How am i able to read your illusions? Each of us experience phantoms as real as the wind. Nothing magical about it. "Darkness" in this sense is proverbial, an outlook on life, not a fact. Darkness/Ignorance is the fuel Science exists on. Illusions are real.
Yet, you still walked yourself into the chains of the cult of personality. Listen to all, but idolize none. You don't know who he was or how he really got to where he was.
What amazes me is that anyone who's ever studied this subject or had a mystical experience themselves will also confirm a lot of the same things in Krishnamurti's teachings or any other spiritual leader of the world. Things like being boundless, eternal, one with all that is, outside of time, etc. It all makes so much sense to me now after my awakening a few years ago, and I've been consciously on the path ever since. Now I'm thinking about becoming a traveling monk and teaching in different places. I've been dreaming of this for a few years now, and I'm ready to start taking the first steps towards reducing all my attachments, getting rid of unnecessary items and things in my life that are a result of consumerism and capitalism and renouncing myself from being a participant in the rat race anymore. Hopefully, more people will follow suit and show everyone that we don't need consumerism anymore. A new, more harmonious way of life has emerged in the last decade. That way is through God, Source, whatever you want to call it. God's providence is all around us. All we have to do is realize the source of all things, and we'll never need another thing ever again.
Wow, so many of my own believes align with Krishnamurti, I always had an aversion to how he was lecturing, thank you for this recap ansangoham, from all the believes I have, Krishnamurti perceptions comes very close
It's a miracle making a Krishnamurti documentary without having to use any video from him, because many people have tried to do that, but bumps in the Krishnamurti Foundation, which prevents people to use his videos. It's a pain the butt that we can't help to broadcast his videos and his philosophy. Congratulations. 🎉🎉❤
That's because it's a business; just another greedy grasping controlling business. If the Krishnamurti Foundation cared about Truth, they wouldn't have any form of copyright or control. To change this miserable world which men and women have created, we must challenge and change the very structures of such. Only via complete co-operation will humans be set free from the shackles of money, of business, of all the delusions which spring from selfishness.
@@haraldtheyounger5504 I completely agree. And Krishnamurti himself would be mad if he knew these guys are preventing his words to be spread. He was the most interested in making free for all mankind. 🙏👍❤️
@@PeterPepper93 i am wallowing in shamelessness and corruption right now after watching this excellent video about Krishnamurti because of those bastards!
I use to listen to JK from my childhood and my father was very much infulenced by JK teachings. Sounds easy but it is not tough. One should totally come out from the movement of thought and the attachment. Great teacher. Listening to JK is really a blessing to me. 🙏
Krishamurthy rediscovered what Buddha rediscovered 2500 years ago. Its great to have such a person in our times, we have his videos, audio and text which can guide us. We lost the true teachings of Buddha, Anyone who walks the path of true spirituality will rediscover this again and again in their life in their now. We have our desires, dogmas etc and so on, Krishamurthy has his awakening and everyone should try to walk on his path. I discovered Ks teachings some 10 years and went in deep with them and felt one with them. I was deeply interested in following the way the K, meant. I tried different methods for spirituality but none was aligned with Ks teachings. I want to Buddhist monasteries as well, it was somewhat aligned to Ks message but there were elements which did not felts one with me, so I kept exploring. Somehow I got to know about Vipassana Meditation in my journey, which was completely aligned with the Ks teachings. We are so fortunate to have his teachings in our lifetime, even though he is not in physical form, his teachings are greatest guide. For me he is more alive than most of us who feel they are living.
Gracias por este Gran video, en la actualidad hace mucha falta que estemos menos condicionados, por que la 'imagen' tiene más importancia que nunca en la sociedad, con las redes sociales condicionando la mente desde la infancia, donde muchas veces los números importan más que la salud personal, la moral, el respeto, etc. Personas como Krishnamurti ayudan a que podamos observar nuestras cadenas mentales, que perpetúan nuestra vivencia en el pasado, pero cuando puedes vivir en el Ahora y sin la carga de las imágenes, todo tiene un significado más profundo e incluso sagrado.
By his own admission, the experience was painful. To experience that, it needs the right ambience in body and mind. To get this ambience, direction is needed. A guru helps prepare you so that you can be capable of perceiving the pathless truth. If you don't know what relaxation is, it's just an idea. If you don't know how to be choiceless, how can you do it? The very effort is the barrier.
How do you know the limits of insight and knowledge. Don't try to create an experience, but rather allow knowledge to reveal itself. Watch your mind and see what is beyond conditioned beliefs. See how ego affects us and go beyond it. Be unconditional love. All is well, right here and right now. Be kind to yourself.
How implies time and method so u are already seeking known. Guru word has been conditioned in ur mind just be aware of it consciously and unconsciously and be free from it
@@mhrshah a progressive school with excellent teaching standards. Teachers are mainly versed in Krishnamurti’s philosophy. The school is situated on a self sustaining farm and is very progressive in its outlook. Many academics in all fields are numbered amongst its alumni . A really exciting place to be. A friend of mine who attended Rishi Valley is now a research mathematician . The school also reaches out to the local community to educate those less able to afford the main school. There are about 250 students from 5 to 18 years old. A boarding school, immaculately maintained and a place for academic experimentation. It is well worth a visit or a wonderful homely place to apply to study at. It also has a Study Centre where adult visitors sincerely interested in Krishnamurti’ s philosophy can pay a nominal fee to stay in a guest house and study. There is a well equipped library attached to the study centre. A parAdise. The Study Centre is separate from the school.
@@mhrshah although there are computer labs etc the School is strict about minimising mobile phone use and social media. This is in line with krishnamurti’ s focus on attention and awareness. That said the atmosphere is one of cooperation and not coercion, children are cooperative because they understand the benefits of being so. It is not a place of voices raised in anger or of corporal punishment. An ideal place to really learn.
Experience, knowledge, memory, thought, action; from that action learn more and repeat. This is how we are programmed. We are always doing this: having remembered pain, in the future avoid pain by not doing the thing that will cause pain, which becomes knowledge, and repeat that. - J krishnamurti ✒️🗒️
It is a good thin to keep in mind that in the direct perception of reality you cannot really define that with 'words'. Those are labels upon experience, experience via our reflection of pure consciousness brought to life via the 'panch kosha' that materialise that 'consciousness' to a certain extent. I see Jiddu as a fellow seeker who struggled immensly with bringing the 'I am' consciousness to the world as plainly as possible. And that, for sure, is one of the most difficult callings. From the heart I hope that he felt (in his 'earthly' self) that the appreciation of an effort like that is endless and that there a no words for those who dedicate their life in the light of guiding us.
Agreed, we all must admit our ignorance or no one will ever reach enlightenment. Only until I admitted my folly and put away my egoic attachments, was I liberated into samadhi
Be wary of any person who allows his or herself to be put on a pedestal and treated in adoring and worshipful. (as many gurus do) A person doesn't have all the answers and is not beyond being wrong, just because he or she claims to be enlightened.
TRUTH is absolute meaning. But being in touch with the Truth requires all self centered motives to end. The Truth comes unasked for. It is a profoundly healing energy. It requires the honed, intellectual ability to translate it, as it is revealing itself. (Hence the marriage between science and religion). It is outside of time. It is in the moment. It requires absolute maturity. Because the truth about yourself is not a fairy tale. (We all have a skeleton in our closet) When the mind is quiet. When the mind is no longer disturbed. When all striving for an answer has finished. Then, if you're lucky, truth can come to you. It won't be telling you the things you want to hear. The truth tells you what actually IS. When you recognise it's beauty, then it heals you.
Although this documentary is a very good brief summary of JK and his work but it-the documentary-has some shortcomings. For instance the word 'belief' was used many times. This is a contradiction of what he always said "The speaker does not belief in anything, Belief is the outcome of a the limited thought process. Only facts matter-facts as it is." For example at the 3.50th min.the documentary says "He believed that true freedom cannot be achieved unless one is free..." At 6.30th min. "He believed that true understanding and liberation...".Also at some other places.Thank you.
Why was Jiddu Krishnamurti called the "anti-guru?" I like how his philosophy combines Hindu perspectives (being an observer of thoughts without being the self/jiva) and sociology (dangers of religious and social conditioning on one's actions and perception of reality.) Choiceless awareness/enlightenment/natural meditative/calm state free from bias - seeing it as an eternal natural state rather than something to be achieved, also matches some Hindu thought.
K. didn't believe in anything. He always spoke from silence (silent mind 24 hours a day. He was always in meditation) Meditation is an activity of no thought. If you don't think about anything you can't believe in anything. All beliefs come from the mind and K. always spoke without memorizing. He listened to the silence. From silence comes sound. One is not separate from the word. K. always spoke from the present moment. He was/is beyond the mind. Everything he spoke came out spontaneously. Without thinking about what he was going to say.
Hello, can I please, considering that a large number of people in Iran watch Krishna Murthy's videos, enable the Persian translation as subtitles in the video
Jiddu would surely say : why are you watching a video about me. What do you intend to gain from watching this video, is it to merely listen to an eloquent explanation of my life and how perhaprs "intelligent" I am or do you want to have an insight into knowing how to live your own life ?
He makes a fatal mistake of having an experience (kundalini awakening), getting all his insights from that experience and telling others to not seek that experience. His insights are the purest of the truths, but one cannot experience that truth without kundalini awakening. Without that awakening, it's just a beautiful thought, of which he himself cites the shortcomings.
I think we're in agreement. Enlightenment came so easily for him, he was not able to bring even one person to Liberation, which from what I understand, frustrated him till the end of his life. He could not understand that the very thing that he was so against, like learning meditation from a guru, was exactly what is needed for optimal Spiritual growth.
The truth is not an experience. Plenty of people with kundalini experiences who are still lost and craving another experience. So that all missed the point.
old Jiddu's words found there way to me (somehow), then I tracked down Theosophy thinking I was on the trail of hippy gold. After I had fallen in and out of love with a long dead Helena Blavatsky, I read about that pedo Leadbeater and had to admit that Jiddu's discovery was dodgy in the least. I read about his training and ascension to a high level of spiritual mastery. I read about Theosophy and their international church comprising both princes and peasants and their eagerness to receive their highly trained new messiah. Nothing about Jiddu convinced me of his authenticity prior to him shutting down his church with the instruction ' follow no one '. I particularly remember him for " It is no measure of a healthy mind to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society'.
UG made some pretty harsh allegations against JK. Like, really really bad stuff. Sometimes when stars shine very brightly, we need to remember that everyone has a shadow and everyone has karma to work through
I read several of Krishnamurt's books, in the late 1990s, and found a lot that made sense, but then, at a secondhand book shop, I found a biography of him. It was written by the daughter of one of his earliest followers (Lady Mary Something-or-Another, it's been 20 years, and I can't find the book). The book was not a "Guru Dearest" hatchet job, but there were things that contradicted his writings. Then, shortly therafter, I read several articles which said that his private life (adultery, accumulation of wealth) contradicted his teaching; nothing on the level of the Christian con artists, ahem, televangelists of the 1980s, but still dismaying. So, as you said, everyone has a shadow; we must think for ourselves, study and chose carefully the advice you follow. It is said the Buddha preached "You must each work out your own salvation." Or something to that effect. So, I am now cautious of Krishnamurti's teachings, but I still give him more credence than I do Jim and Tammy Faye, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts, etc.
@@ankitacharya975 it's nice to know someone else gets it. Its so simple and so plain, and people will spend a lifetime acquiring spiritual nonsense/ garbage trying to be more than what they already are. All the best to you ✌️
Observation without the observer is possible if the observer relinquishes self and becomes the observing process itself until it's suitable enough to switch back.
When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind. - J. Krishnamurti
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Never follow another person in life. I think J Krishnamurti is good from his appearance, true intellectual maybe. The idea that no one should follow another person in life is what I feel is crucial positive side of Islam to a large extent and other Abrahamic religions and even the Zoroastrian religion and Vedic & Buddhist, Jainism religion of early days also and major problem of my thinking and that of Hinduism. Following another person is what is true idolism and in my mind no religion is bigger culprit for falling in that pit than Hinduism Even Theravada Buddhism has gone in that direction I feel P.S: Just thought of clearing the matter a bit. The statement should read 'Never follow another person in life on matters of life' The cases where one can follow another are those involving artificial setups like those relating to leaders if an Army, leader of a community of people for specific tasks, leader of a religion on matters of direction on the religions founding ideas and direction forward (but never on idea of life or idea of god), leader of a commercial organisation, and so on and so forth.
That's not what Hinduism teaches, and the Quran is not our gospel. In Hinduism, we've a beautiful system of Guru-disciple. Guru is the one who makes a person. Giving birth is what parents do, but who the child becomes is determined by the Guru. Guru is not simply a teacher, but a guide, a companion, an advisor. A guru can raise an ordinary man to perform extraordinary achievements (Brahma), watch over him to ensure he never strays from the path Dharma (Vishnu), and punish, or even destroy him if he does so (Shiva). It also means that all three of the Gods are also our Guru, because they have given us the Vedas and the knowledge of Dharma. Also, according to Hinduism, we're living in the Kali Yuga, where there is corruption enmasse, and it has even infiltrated religions. So finding a genuine Guru is key. How do we do that? Make sure the person has integrity, is following the scriptures and comes from an established lineage.
@@sidhantsharma9961 I was not referring to what Hinduism teaches. I am not concerned with what Hinduism teaches either. However, since you mentioned those things I will point where I do not like those: Those three gods you mentioned did not give you vedas. Vedas were brought by Aryans and very few Hindus have that Aryanic blood. The vedas had different gods not as in present day Hinduism. Maybe the Upanishads would come closer. If a person needs a constant companion in form of teacher to teach, guide, destroy that is as good as employing a god to the person in human form which is absurd, absolutely blasphemous of any faith and beliefs and truths, which also means the person is incapable of living his or her life, no such being should be living their lives, in fact no such being exists on earth unless they are medically unfit and needs constant care, in which case they need a nurse and doctor not a guru to accompany through life. That very concept generates the concept of servitude, that very concept generates the concept of master and slave, there is nothing to follow there, there is nothing holy there, it is plain and simple propagation of slavery using name of religion. No wonder Hinduism has it, no wonder it creates demons and serpents and even worships those. As for Islam I have said that is the crucial positive side of that faith , it brings out people from servitude, however any religion which goes on for long time gathers elements who are themselves vulnerable to human vulnerabilities, greed and false concepts, so not surprising muslim rulers themselves became pioneers of slavery, same goes for Christianity after that though they have corrected later on. The concept of teacher is incorrect.no one needs a teacher , people usually at young age needs sufficient authentic and free information, grown up people should not be asking for teacher and definitely not as constant companions. Every life has power of sone sort or other. It is human created systems like nations, religions, social orders which were created for specific purposes to solve in history which eventually disadvantages some people and puts others at an advantage and once that prolongs it needs to be broken and demolished and new systems established. Otherwise in a natural world without such human created systems the people will not be having advantages or disadvantages over others, their qualities and strengths and weaknesses will be sufficient to sustain them.and keep thm happy as long as they have life, however I am sure at sone point they will fall to their own follies, own vices or others vices, and not correcting those which all human life has natural capability of will further channel them in wrong path but even with that they will be able to correct themselves, that is beauty and strength of life. A guide is needed only to overcome the disadvantages posed by an human created system and that guiding setup is needed both by the information receiver as well as information provider, for the information provider it is needed to help running and sustaining the system which disadvantages the person. But this has nothing to do with god, life and guidance on that. In fact the concept of constant guide and constant teacher assumes someone is unable to live his or her life, absolutely devilish concept. At least for me , however as an individual my knowledge is limited to my life so it could well be someone will be needing that kind of a guru. To me that is same as following a Ghenghis Khan with a scripture at hand, nothing good in that for me.
"The vedas had different gods not as in present day Hinduism. Maybe the Upanishads would come closer." Nope they did not. If you understood Hinduism, you would know that all the external god's are just one and the same. Infact, there's no God and you. There's just God. Non-duality. Aham Bhramsmi. This doesn't mean that you as a personality is God. This is a big misunderstanding. It means, that all there is, is God. Absolute Non-duality. language fails here. "If a person needs a constant companion in form of teacher to teach, guide, destroy that is as good as employing a god to the person in human form which is absurd, absolutely blasphemous of any faith and beliefs and truths, which also means the person is incapable of living his or her life, no such being should be living their lives, in fact no such being exists on earth unless they are medically unfit and needs constant care, in which case they need a nurse and doctor not a guru to accompany through life." No it's not. Because here we have the concept of Dharma. It is the Guru's Dharma to make the student know of the absolute truth. And because we belive in reincarnation, sometimes 1 life is not enough. The soul has to traverse through several lifetimes sometimes to know that it is not separate from the ultimate. Thou art that. "As for Islam I have said that is the crucial positive side of that faith , it brings out people from servitude, however any religion which goes on for long time gathers elements who are themselves vulnerable to human vulnerabilities, greed and false concepts, so not surprising muslim rulers themselves became pioneers of slavery, same goes for Christianity after that though they have corrected later on." The main thing of Abrahamic religions, apart from everything you said above is that it is unable to solve the problem of suffering. If God is all powerful, and all loving why is that somewhere a 2 month old dies of intense suffering? Whereas in Hinduism, without the concept of eternal hell/damnation and reincarnation, easily solves it. "A guide is needed only to overcome the disadvantages posed by an human created system and that guiding setup is needed both by the information receiver as well as information provider, for the information provider it is needed to help running and sustaining the system which disadvantages the person." You're thinking in a binary manner. Human beings are more complex, more evolved. Sometimes, there can be guides who're completely selfless, because they've realised the ultimate truth. And from that space, they can rightfully guide their disciples. "But this has nothing to do with god, life and guidance on that. In fact the concept of constant guide and constant teacher assumes someone is unable to live his or her life, absolutely devilish concept. At least for me , however as an individual my knowledge is limited to my life so it could well be someone will be needing that kind of a guru. " What is "living" his/her life? Work, eat, procreate, earn money and die? The genuine Guru's who've realised the ultimate, don't bother with the ephemeral. With pure bliss and strength, they become GURUS (Dispeller of darkness/ignorance)
@@sidhantsharma9961 The vedas had different names of gods at least. Now you can explain that your own way it will depend on the reader to believe in that or not Not my cup though. You have spoken on the ultimate truth, go ahead tell me that and others here. I repeat a person who needs guidance on life is not a person at all. Unless you are telling someone the ultimate truth and that helps them those talks are useless. I am very interested in the ultimate truth, let me hear from you. "Abrahamic religions do not solve problems of human suffering" I have yet to come of a person on earth who had not complained on anything, and hindus are famous on complaining. If they are all happy why do they need to harass and kill minority people or take advantage of vulnerable people. Something not matching. Either they are not hindus or they have not your ideal hindu guru, in either case they are still not hindus, but yet they tKe name of Hinduism to do all those stuffs, well some problem definitely. P.S: I do not believe anyone can be selfless. That idea is absolutely incorrect. I have not come across anyone. I tried myself , that is absolutely illogical to conceive.
I checked on slavery in Islam , i knew that had existed , and prophet muhammad himself kept and traded slaves. However islam also had slave kings. Their treatment of slaves were possibly different than others. Also important thing to note here: The first major slave trading by islamic kingdom was done by the turkish ottomans. Just keep that in mind in 14th century, i will explain that later on. However slavery was there earlier too and before founding of islam too. Which explains the earlier pagan beliefs were culprits too and also could explain why muhammad had trader slaves. He was a prophet not the son of god or god in human form or messiah. For further explanation on slavery and its recurrence in history I will first wait for your answer on the 'ultimate truth' part. And remember the ottoman empire and 14th century will be crucial in that
Though 'the interconnectedness of life' is referred to as Krishnamurthis idea in this video, this comes from the ancient Hindu philosophy of Advaita Vedanta propounded millenia ago..Whatever referred to as spirituality in the West is basically Hindu and Buddhist philosophies..
He was exceptional as a speaker. However, mortals should not be idealized. He did not acknowledge his own daughter. Covered up. Carried away by glory and new life, he lived redemption. Osho is a story in itself, why did he have 93 Rolls Royce? And Jung was a force, yet he had 7 mistresses and believed that a woman's role was only to be a wife and mother. (You have better videos than this one.)
He is the great man, but by my opinion he made some wrong conclusions. 1. He couldn't build building or airplane because he is not engineer. He didn't practice Hatha yoga. How can give any conclusion about it. And many other thing....but not enough space.... 2. Many ancient text talk same as his teaching. So only what is acceptable of his numerous teaching( by his criterium) can be only one sentence: "Observe yourself". Everything what he said if we put in the some book is " new theory".
I became enlightened after begging God as my life was destroyed and was suffering badly, for 6 months I was a tool of God, I had a greater mind, I had an energy, i was also put through trials, I had Mary, Jesus and the Father speaking to me, God made it so I could do things easier, without effort, now I am left with a mind that corrects me, I feel like I have left reality, the world of beliefs, they hit the reset button on me, after 19 years of hanging in, I have to try to get my life back but its difficult as people are doing horrible things to me and no one will help
Why overlook his many contradictions; such as his very ordinary desire for sex, which he tried to hide from his followers. Not that sex matters, but the way it happens does; jumping into a woman's bed uninvited is not the action of a free man, nor is having one of your many lovers abort a baby a "sacred act". He obviously had insight, but no more than others. As for "the process", again that can be viewed for what it was, regression not advancement. Really, his day-to-day life was no different to that of those he renounced and decried.
@@minimal3734 He's the one who preached otherwise, who more than suggested it is a "better way", a "holistic way". So stating such, and yet failing to live up to it all is not worthy of pursuit as it is simply more deluded nonsense. Yes, I know he thought of himself as some form of "vehicle" and derided Spiritualist Mediums, Trace States, Hypnosis, etc, stating he was not like them in a derogatory manner. So much of Krishnamurti shows him for what he was, just like all these guru's... simply superficial. However, to answer your question; no, an Enlightened person would not be full of contradiction, nor misleading anyone.
@@haraldtheyounger5504 I am not here to defend JK. Enlightenment means different things to different people. For me it is the insight into the illusory nature of the constructed identity. From my own experience I can say that this changes very little. This character still has the same flaws as before. But there may be levels to the game and your understanding may differ.
@@minimal3734 Insight changes the very nature of consciousness... and therefore action. To me, he was just another in the line of many deluded frauds. He is on record of stating that without being able to do all these talks, live the life made available by his followers, that he just see no point in living. That is hardly the statement of an enlightened one.
Nobody will ever understand Jiddu untill they know about the heart and the mind and how the two cannot co exist should one seek ultimate freedom. He was for freedom from this binary matrix, which is why everyone hates him. You are slaves to your own identities, slaves to your selves, not a metaphor. You quite literally, are all prisoners of your own mind, lost in lust and looking "out there" for guidance, crawling down the dark alleys of Guru's and their truth empires, it leads right back to the womb. There is no such thing as a God and a Man, for one nourishes the other, and the man is not being nourished by the God, that's for sure.
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When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind. - J. Krishnamurti
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Movement by a mutation.
So this website needs a repeat of his words?
❤ Krishnamurti had the most boundless mind ever. I dig hard his teachings, and the more I dig, I discover how he went far away, and discovered everything others have said all by himself, without having to learn from nobody. So, he teach us one only lesson, like: Do like I did: "Be the only light to yourself, not from others". So, each person must discover by itself, bypass the lies of thought, and then you will discover a whole new reality not accessible by another way. It's so hard and so easy at the same time. We don't need to learn anything, on the contrary, we need to get rid of all our conditioning imposed by education, society, dogmas and instituted religions. Meditation is not sitting down for 5 minutes, meditation is a state of being. Always. And love is the supreme intelligence. 🎉❤❤❤❤❤
He means that any path whatsoever is in the field of time and known. And Truth is timeless,wordless,pathless,unknown,It remains without measurement.
Which isn't to say that paths aren't useful, only that they will eventually need to be abandoned.
@@FauxFoe There's no such thing as path. And paths are the most ridiculous barrier in search of the real.
@@axutgautam1187Yes and no. We exist in time but also not in time. Paths are necessary but they are also not.
@@FauxFoe There is motion and there is change. There's no such thing as time.
@@axutgautam1187 Tell that to your boss the next time you're late. It does and doesn't exist. Denying it is folly.
I'm glad to see that J. Krishnamurthi has finally been featured on your channel. More people need to know about him
This is by far the best video on JK available on RUclips. Absolutely loved it. 🙏
You are a supporter of India's biggest business guru, Sadhguru
@@srinivasashree0000 😂 people want to follow... they want to look to someone to tell them what to think... I nothing against Sadhguru, but yea he is smart entrepreneur lol
@@KAiROS_717 Krishnamurti is way beyond Sadguru..
I don't who brainwashed these silly people or in which scripture it is written that a businessmen cannot be a guru. Sadhguru is a Grihastha yogi so it is his dharma to feed his family so he has right to earn through business or employment or whatever legal means he think is right for him. artha/earnings is one of the 4 pillars of sanatan dharma for a grihastha yogi. an unmarried virgin sanyasi can skip 2 pillars after dharma can proceed direct to Moksha. these ignorant people are confused and mixing roles of both Grihastha and Sanyasi and character assassinating Sadhguru even if they don't have any authority or authenticity of themselves.
What is a right way to earn money? Hypocrisy surly not.
Even “being in the present” becomes an ideal. Understanding our relationship with words loosens the grip words have on us.
All words, alphabets, letters, numbers, symbols and images are illusion, not reality, and therefore are magic. Everyone who thinks in words and images is dancing with darkness.
@@jivanvasant How am i able to read your illusions? Each of us experience phantoms as real as the wind. Nothing magical about it. "Darkness" in this sense is proverbial, an outlook on life, not a fact. Darkness/Ignorance is the fuel Science exists on. Illusions are real.
it helps when you let Donald Duck's or Goofy's voice talk about "being in the present" 😁
Jiddu Krishmurti has freed me from the shackles of institutional spiritualities. He is a realised being.
Jiddu basically disarmed any charlatan from claiming authority over another regarding truth.
Yet, you still walked yourself into the chains of the cult of personality. Listen to all, but idolize none. You don't know who he was or how he really got to where he was.
THE greatest philosopher/teacher.
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What amazes me is that anyone who's ever studied this subject or had a mystical experience themselves will also confirm a lot of the same things in Krishnamurti's teachings or any other spiritual leader of the world. Things like being boundless, eternal, one with all that is, outside of time, etc. It all makes so much sense to me now after my awakening a few years ago, and I've been consciously on the path ever since. Now I'm thinking about becoming a traveling monk and teaching in different places. I've been dreaming of this for a few years now, and I'm ready to start taking the first steps towards reducing all my attachments, getting rid of unnecessary items and things in my life that are a result of consumerism and capitalism and renouncing myself from being a participant in the rat race anymore. Hopefully, more people will follow suit and show everyone that we don't need consumerism anymore. A new, more harmonious way of life has emerged in the last decade. That way is through God, Source, whatever you want to call it. God's providence is all around us. All we have to do is realize the source of all things, and we'll never need another thing ever again.
Wow, so many of my own believes align with Krishnamurti, I always had an aversion to how he was lecturing, thank you for this recap ansangoham, from all the believes I have, Krishnamurti perceptions comes very close
It's a miracle making a Krishnamurti documentary without having to use any video from him, because many people have tried to do that, but bumps in the Krishnamurti Foundation, which prevents people to use his videos. It's a pain the butt that we can't help to broadcast his videos and his philosophy. Congratulations. 🎉🎉❤
That's because it's a business; just another greedy grasping controlling business. If the Krishnamurti Foundation cared about Truth, they wouldn't have any form of copyright or control. To change this miserable world which men and women have created, we must challenge and change the very structures of such. Only via complete co-operation will humans be set free from the shackles of money, of business, of all the delusions which spring from selfishness.
@@haraldtheyounger5504you're so right, they corrupted his teachings with no shame
@@haraldtheyounger5504 I completely agree. And Krishnamurti himself would be mad if he knew these guys are preventing his words to be spread. He was the most interested in making free for all mankind. 🙏👍❤️
@@PeterPepper93 i am wallowing in shamelessness and corruption right now after watching this excellent video about Krishnamurti because of those bastards!
Every book and video can be pirated. People respect too many rules...
Download everything folks. Knowledge is your right.
This was very good. There aren’t many good docs covering his life and work that I’ve been able to find. Thank you 🙏
look for these ones:
The seer who walks alone
The challenge of change
I use to listen to JK from my childhood and my father was very much infulenced by JK teachings. Sounds easy but it is not tough. One should totally come out from the movement of thought and the attachment. Great teacher. Listening to JK is really a blessing to me. 🙏
Krishamurthy rediscovered what Buddha rediscovered 2500 years ago. Its great to have such a person in our times, we have his videos, audio and text which can guide us.
We lost the true teachings of Buddha, Anyone who walks the path of true spirituality will rediscover this again and again in their life in their now. We have our desires, dogmas etc and so on, Krishamurthy has his awakening and everyone should try to walk on his path.
I discovered Ks teachings some 10 years and went in deep with them and felt one with them. I was deeply interested in following the way the K, meant.
I tried different methods for spirituality but none was aligned with Ks teachings. I want to Buddhist monasteries as well, it was somewhat aligned to Ks message but there were elements which did not felts one with me, so I kept exploring.
Somehow I got to know about Vipassana Meditation in my journey, which was completely aligned with the Ks teachings.
We are so fortunate to have his teachings in our lifetime, even though he is not in physical form, his teachings are greatest guide. For me he is more alive than most of us who feel they are living.
I want to try vipassana too, how was your experience?
Please try. you will know only if you try. Cannot be defined in words, word is not the real thing.@@rachitsachdeva7836
Another amazing insightful video! quite frankly you guys deserve much more views! Thank you for everything Asangoham team 🙏
Gracias por este Gran video, en la actualidad hace mucha falta que estemos menos condicionados, por que la 'imagen' tiene más importancia que nunca en la sociedad, con las redes sociales condicionando la mente desde la infancia, donde muchas veces los números importan más que la salud personal, la moral, el respeto, etc.
Personas como Krishnamurti ayudan a que podamos observar nuestras cadenas mentales, que perpetúan nuestra vivencia en el pasado, pero cuando puedes vivir en el Ahora y sin la carga de las imágenes, todo tiene un significado más profundo e incluso sagrado.
Excellent overview of J. Krishnamurti.
By his own admission, the experience was painful. To experience that, it needs the right ambience in body and mind. To get this ambience, direction is needed. A guru helps prepare you so that you can be capable of perceiving the pathless truth. If you don't know what relaxation is, it's just an idea. If you don't know how to be choiceless, how can you do it? The very effort is the barrier.
Mine whent very dangerous for 9 months
Nonsense
Good words
How do you know the limits of insight and knowledge. Don't try to create an experience, but rather allow knowledge to reveal itself. Watch your mind and see what is beyond conditioned beliefs. See how ego affects us and go beyond it. Be unconditional love. All is well, right here and right now. Be kind to yourself.
How implies time and method so u are already seeking known.
Guru word has been conditioned in ur mind just be aware of it consciously and unconsciously and be free from it
"Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect." J.K.
Wow, that speaks to me
Just Great... 🙏💐
We are all one!! we all come from the same source!!
A few days ago I was thinking about putting together an “Anti Guru - Jiddu Krishnamurti” video, then this popped up in my feed today. 🕊
JK himself is a guru. one who teaches timeless principles (sanatan dharma) is a guru.
So beautiful. Thank you for this wonderful video.
Another feather in the Asangoham cap! Superb research and connecting of dots. Thank you for all that you do.
Thanks for this very well done video about JK that helped me to better understand his teachings 🙏
Great job on this documentary! Super informative. Thank you so much
I have been to Rishi Valley School … a Krishnamurti. School five hours from Bangalore. ❤
Pls Share your experience about this school
@@mhrshah a progressive school with excellent teaching standards. Teachers are mainly versed in Krishnamurti’s philosophy. The school is situated on a self sustaining farm and is very progressive in its outlook. Many academics in all fields are numbered amongst its alumni . A really exciting place to be. A friend of mine who attended Rishi Valley is now a research mathematician . The school also reaches out to the local community to educate those less able to afford the main school. There are about 250 students from 5 to 18 years old. A boarding school, immaculately maintained and a place for academic experimentation. It is well worth a visit or a wonderful homely place to apply to study at. It also has a Study Centre where adult visitors sincerely interested in Krishnamurti’ s philosophy can pay a nominal fee to stay in a guest house and study. There is a well equipped library attached to the study centre. A parAdise. The Study Centre is separate from the school.
@@mhrshah although there are computer labs etc the School is strict about minimising mobile phone use and social media. This is in line with krishnamurti’ s focus on attention and awareness. That said the atmosphere is one of cooperation and not coercion, children are cooperative because they understand the benefits of being so. It is not a place of voices raised in anger or of corporal punishment. An ideal place to really learn.
He was genius ❤
Experience, knowledge, memory, thought, action; from that action learn more and repeat. This is how we are programmed. We are always doing this: having remembered pain, in the future avoid pain by not doing the thing that will cause pain, which becomes knowledge, and repeat that.
- J krishnamurti
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Everything is perfectly perfecting itself as is, and the attempt to direct it anywhere other than the here and now, is illusory.
It is a good thin to keep in mind that in the direct perception of reality you cannot really define that with 'words'. Those are labels upon experience, experience via our reflection of pure consciousness brought to life via the 'panch kosha' that materialise that 'consciousness' to a certain extent. I see Jiddu as a fellow seeker who struggled immensly with bringing the 'I am' consciousness to the world as plainly as possible. And that, for sure, is one of the most difficult callings. From the heart I hope that he felt (in his 'earthly' self) that the appreciation of an effort like that is endless and that there a no words for those who dedicate their life in the light of guiding us.
Let enlightenment be the sport for fools, and admission of ignorance be the liberation from ignorance.
-an enlightened fool
Agreed, we all must admit our ignorance or no one will ever reach enlightenment. Only until I admitted my folly and put away my egoic attachments, was I liberated into samadhi
@@karmapeople1735the cycle continues since you believe yourself above OP
@@RingerofthelieAnd you think yourself to be above karmapeople, it sure does continue.
Yes, Truth is the pathless land .
The sound of the water says what I think💫
Thanks so much
LOVE END PEACE WITH YOU BELOVED JIDDU❤❤❤
I do love him.
Be wary of any person who allows his or herself to be put on a pedestal and treated in adoring and worshipful. (as many gurus do) A person doesn't have all the answers and is not beyond being wrong, just because he or she claims to be enlightened.
TRUTH is absolute meaning.
But being in touch with the Truth requires all self centered motives to end.
The Truth comes unasked for.
It is a profoundly healing energy.
It requires the honed, intellectual ability to translate it, as it is revealing itself.
(Hence the marriage between science and religion).
It is outside of time.
It is in the moment.
It requires absolute maturity.
Because the truth about yourself is not a fairy tale.
(We all have a skeleton in our closet)
When the mind is quiet.
When the mind is no longer disturbed.
When all striving for an answer has finished.
Then, if you're lucky, truth can come to you.
It won't be telling you the things you want to hear.
The truth tells you what actually IS.
When you recognise it's beauty, then it heals you.
When I discoverer him, I was shocked by his ability to see through preconceptions and prejudices. He truly was a 20th century Socrates.
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Excellent
Although this documentary is a very good brief summary of JK and his work but it-the documentary-has some shortcomings. For instance the word 'belief' was used many times. This is a contradiction of what he always said "The speaker does not belief in anything, Belief is the outcome of a the limited thought process. Only facts matter-facts as it is." For example at the 3.50th min.the documentary says "He believed that true freedom cannot be achieved unless one is free..." At 6.30th min. "He believed that true understanding and liberation...".Also at some other places.Thank you.
Beliefs are the enemy of Knowing.😮
Jiddu is the grtst one whom i can consider so far as a clear mind,no prejudice, highest level of attainment on earth
Why was Jiddu Krishnamurti called the "anti-guru?" I like how his philosophy combines Hindu perspectives (being an observer of thoughts without being the self/jiva) and sociology (dangers of religious and social conditioning on one's actions and perception of reality.) Choiceless awareness/enlightenment/natural meditative/calm state free from bias - seeing it as an eternal natural state rather than something to be achieved, also matches some Hindu thought.
The ability to observe without judging/evaluating is the destruction of Karma.
Great master
Om sivayanamaha
He was a big influence on Bruce Lee.
K. didn't believe in anything. He always spoke from silence (silent mind 24 hours a day. He was always in meditation) Meditation is an activity of no thought. If you don't think about anything you can't believe in anything. All beliefs come from the mind and K. always spoke without memorizing. He listened to the silence. From silence comes sound. One is not separate from the word. K. always spoke from the present moment. He was/is beyond the mind. Everything he spoke came out spontaneously. Without thinking about what he was going to say.
Hello, can I please, considering that a large number of people in Iran watch Krishna Murthy's videos, enable the Persian translation as subtitles in the video
Amazing doc 👌 Thank you for doing and sharing it 🙏 Could you please share the ending song’s name and artists? Thank you! Have a blessed weekend 🙏
Well done ❤
Jiddu would surely say : why are you watching a video about me. What do you intend to gain from watching this video, is it to merely listen to an eloquent explanation of my life and how perhaprs "intelligent" I am or do you want to have an insight into knowing how to live your own life ?
He makes a fatal mistake of having an experience (kundalini awakening), getting all his insights from that experience and telling others to not seek that experience. His insights are the purest of the truths, but one cannot experience that truth without kundalini awakening. Without that awakening, it's just a beautiful thought, of which he himself cites the shortcomings.
I think we're in agreement. Enlightenment came so easily for him, he was not able to bring even one person to Liberation, which from what I understand, frustrated him till the end of his life. He could not understand that the very thing that he was so against, like learning meditation from a guru, was exactly what is needed for optimal Spiritual growth.
The truth is not an experience. Plenty of people with kundalini experiences who are still lost and craving another experience. So that all missed the point.
nice. tq
old Jiddu's words found there way to me (somehow), then I tracked down Theosophy thinking I was on the trail of hippy gold. After I had fallen in and out of love with a long dead Helena Blavatsky, I read about that pedo Leadbeater and had to admit that Jiddu's discovery was dodgy in the least. I read about his training and ascension to a high level of spiritual mastery. I read about Theosophy and their international church comprising both princes and peasants and their eagerness to receive their highly trained new messiah. Nothing about Jiddu convinced me of his authenticity prior to him shutting down his church with the instruction ' follow no one '. I particularly remember him for " It is no measure of a healthy mind to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society'.
Now one on Osho!!
UG made some pretty harsh allegations against JK. Like, really really bad stuff. Sometimes when stars shine very brightly, we need to remember that everyone has a shadow and everyone has karma to work through
who is UG?
UG is a moron
I read several of Krishnamurt's books, in the late 1990s, and found a lot that made sense, but then, at a secondhand book shop, I found a biography of him. It was written by the daughter of one of his earliest followers (Lady Mary Something-or-Another, it's been 20 years, and I can't find the book). The book was not a "Guru Dearest" hatchet job, but there were things that contradicted his writings. Then, shortly therafter, I read several articles which said that his private life (adultery, accumulation of wealth) contradicted his teaching; nothing on the level of the Christian con artists, ahem, televangelists of the 1980s, but still dismaying. So, as you said, everyone has a shadow; we must think for ourselves, study and chose carefully the advice you follow. It is said the Buddha preached "You must each work out your own salvation." Or something to that effect. So, I am now cautious of Krishnamurti's teachings, but I still give him more credence than I do Jim and Tammy Faye, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts, etc.
@@JMCFRESH U.G. Krishnamurti, the anti anti guru
I believe the title of "anti-guru" belongs to UG Krishnamurti. You should do a video on him next.
every search ends with UG Krishnamurti.there is no need for enlightenment being a simple human is enough
@@ankitacharya975 it's nice to know someone else gets it. Its so simple and so plain, and people will spend a lifetime acquiring spiritual nonsense/ garbage trying to be more than what they already are. All the best to you ✌️
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What did he achieve ? His thoughts and teaching leads to ????
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Can you please make one video on UG krishnamurti.
Observation without the observer is possible if the observer relinquishes self and becomes the observing process itself until it's suitable enough to switch back.
When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind. - J. Krishnamurti
Thank you so much. That is exactly what I needed to hear. Sublime quote.
Krishnamurti was an optimistic nihilist
If Jiddu Krishnamurti is the anti-guru then UG Krishnamurti is the super anti-guru.
UG is a moron
7:49: ✨BINGO✨
He enemy of wavering thoughts
He is Vedanta personified
I think Alan Watts figured him out perfectly....
Be forever present and the illusions of the mind disappear.
Spiegato bene.
WE=mc2 don't need 2 evaluate the🧘♂️ difference🏋♀️ between the✨️Light of 💎diamonds &/or the dust of the teacher. The only Way😇Up is being a Universal🎺Reacher with the😅T'ruth of Love💔as the🎶Feature!
Nevertheless K had a Guru. It was Maitreya who gave K the state of Samadhi into his illumination.
make a video on osho
Look at the pupil of his eyes. If you know you know.
timestamp pls
You are a Saturn worshipper. Iykyk
Never follow another person in life. I think J Krishnamurti is good from his appearance, true intellectual maybe.
The idea that no one should follow another person in life is what I feel is crucial positive side of Islam to a large extent and other Abrahamic religions and even the Zoroastrian religion and Vedic & Buddhist, Jainism religion of early days also and major problem of my thinking and that of Hinduism.
Following another person is what is true idolism and in my mind no religion is bigger culprit for falling in that pit than Hinduism
Even Theravada Buddhism has gone in that direction I feel
P.S: Just thought of clearing the matter a bit. The statement should read 'Never follow another person in life on matters of life'
The cases where one can follow another are those involving artificial setups like those relating to leaders if an Army, leader of a community of people for specific tasks, leader of a religion on matters of direction on the religions founding ideas and direction forward (but never on idea of life or idea of god), leader of a commercial organisation, and so on and so forth.
That's not what Hinduism teaches, and the Quran is not our gospel.
In Hinduism, we've a beautiful system of Guru-disciple. Guru is the one who makes a person. Giving birth is what parents do, but who the child becomes is determined by the Guru. Guru is not simply a teacher, but a guide, a companion, an advisor. A guru can raise an ordinary man to perform extraordinary achievements (Brahma), watch over him to ensure he never strays from the path Dharma (Vishnu), and punish, or even destroy him if he does so (Shiva). It also means that all three of the Gods are also our Guru, because they have given us the Vedas and the knowledge of Dharma.
Also, according to Hinduism, we're living in the Kali Yuga, where there is corruption enmasse, and it has even infiltrated religions. So finding a genuine Guru is key. How do we do that? Make sure the person has integrity, is following the scriptures and comes from an established lineage.
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I was not referring to what Hinduism teaches.
I am not concerned with what Hinduism teaches either.
However, since you mentioned those things I will point where I do not like those:
Those three gods you mentioned did not give you vedas. Vedas were brought by Aryans and very few Hindus have that Aryanic blood.
The vedas had different gods not as in present day Hinduism. Maybe the Upanishads would come closer.
If a person needs a constant companion in form of teacher to teach, guide, destroy that is as good as employing a god to the person in human form which is absurd, absolutely blasphemous of any faith and beliefs and truths, which also means the person is incapable of living his or her life, no such being should be living their lives, in fact no such being exists on earth unless they are medically unfit and needs constant care, in which case they need a nurse and doctor not a guru to accompany through life.
That very concept generates the concept of servitude, that very concept generates the concept of master and slave, there is nothing to follow there, there is nothing holy there, it is plain and simple propagation of slavery using name of religion. No wonder Hinduism has it, no wonder it creates demons and serpents and even worships those.
As for Islam I have said that is the crucial positive side of that faith , it brings out people from servitude, however any religion which goes on for long time gathers elements who are themselves vulnerable to human vulnerabilities, greed and false concepts, so not surprising muslim rulers themselves became pioneers of slavery, same goes for Christianity after that though they have corrected later on.
The concept of teacher is incorrect.no one needs a teacher , people usually at young age needs sufficient authentic and free information, grown up people should not be asking for teacher and definitely not as constant companions.
Every life has power of sone sort or other. It is human created systems like nations, religions, social orders which were created for specific purposes to solve in history which eventually disadvantages some people and puts others at an advantage and once that prolongs it needs to be broken and demolished and new systems established. Otherwise in a natural world without such human created systems the people will not be having advantages or disadvantages over others, their qualities and strengths and weaknesses will be sufficient to sustain them.and keep thm happy as long as they have life, however I am sure at sone point they will fall to their own follies, own vices or others vices, and not correcting those which all human life has natural capability of will further channel them in wrong path but even with that they will be able to correct themselves, that is beauty and strength of life.
A guide is needed only to overcome the disadvantages posed by an human created system and that guiding setup is needed both by the information receiver as well as information provider, for the information provider it is needed to help running and sustaining the system which disadvantages the person.
But this has nothing to do with god, life and guidance on that. In fact the concept of constant guide and constant teacher assumes someone is unable to live his or her life, absolutely devilish concept. At least for me , however as an individual my knowledge is limited to my life so it could well be someone will be needing that kind of a guru.
To me that is same as following a Ghenghis Khan with a scripture at hand, nothing good in that for me.
"The vedas had different gods not as in present day Hinduism. Maybe the Upanishads would come closer."
Nope they did not. If you understood Hinduism, you would know that all the external god's are just one and the same. Infact, there's no God and you. There's just God. Non-duality. Aham Bhramsmi.
This doesn't mean that you as a personality is God. This is a big misunderstanding.
It means, that all there is, is God. Absolute Non-duality. language fails here.
"If a person needs a constant companion in form of teacher to teach, guide, destroy that is as good as employing a god to the person in human form which is absurd, absolutely blasphemous of any faith and beliefs and truths, which also means the person is incapable of living his or her life, no such being should be living their lives, in fact no such being exists on earth unless they are medically unfit and needs constant care, in which case they need a nurse and doctor not a guru to accompany through life."
No it's not. Because here we have the concept of Dharma. It is the Guru's Dharma to make the student know of the absolute truth. And because we belive in reincarnation, sometimes 1 life is not enough. The soul has to traverse through several lifetimes sometimes to know that it is not separate from the ultimate. Thou art that.
"As for Islam I have said that is the crucial positive side of that faith , it brings out people from servitude, however any religion which goes on for long time gathers elements who are themselves vulnerable to human vulnerabilities, greed and false concepts, so not surprising muslim rulers themselves became pioneers of slavery, same goes for Christianity after that though they have corrected later on."
The main thing of Abrahamic religions, apart from everything you said above is that it is unable to solve the problem of suffering. If God is all powerful, and all loving why is that somewhere a 2 month old dies of intense suffering? Whereas in Hinduism, without the concept of eternal hell/damnation and reincarnation, easily solves it.
"A guide is needed only to overcome the disadvantages posed by an human created system and that guiding setup is needed both by the information receiver as well as information provider, for the information provider it is needed to help running and sustaining the system which disadvantages the person."
You're thinking in a binary manner. Human beings are more complex, more evolved.
Sometimes, there can be guides who're completely selfless, because they've realised the ultimate truth. And from that space, they can rightfully guide their disciples.
"But this has nothing to do with god, life and guidance on that. In fact the concept of constant guide and constant teacher assumes someone is unable to live his or her life, absolutely devilish concept. At least for me , however as an individual my knowledge is limited to my life so it could well be someone will be needing that kind of a guru. "
What is "living" his/her life? Work, eat, procreate, earn money and die?
The genuine Guru's who've realised the ultimate, don't bother with the ephemeral. With pure bliss and strength, they become GURUS (Dispeller of darkness/ignorance)
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The vedas had different names of gods at least. Now you can explain that your own way it will depend on the reader to believe in that or not
Not my cup though.
You have spoken on the ultimate truth, go ahead tell me that and others here.
I repeat a person who needs guidance on life is not a person at all. Unless you are telling someone the ultimate truth and that helps them those talks are useless. I am very interested in the ultimate truth, let me hear from you.
"Abrahamic religions do not solve problems of human suffering"
I have yet to come of a person on earth who had not complained on anything, and hindus are famous on complaining. If they are all happy why do they need to harass and kill minority people or take advantage of vulnerable people. Something not matching. Either they are not hindus or they have not your ideal hindu guru, in either case they are still not hindus, but yet they tKe name of Hinduism to do all those stuffs, well some problem definitely.
P.S: I do not believe anyone can be selfless. That idea is absolutely incorrect. I have not come across anyone. I tried myself , that is absolutely illogical to conceive.
I checked on slavery in Islam , i knew that had existed , and prophet muhammad himself kept and traded slaves.
However islam also had slave kings. Their treatment of slaves were possibly different than others.
Also important thing to note here:
The first major slave trading by islamic kingdom was done by the turkish ottomans. Just keep that in mind in 14th century, i will explain that later on.
However slavery was there earlier too and before founding of islam too. Which explains the earlier pagan beliefs were culprits too and also could explain why muhammad had trader slaves. He was a prophet not the son of god or god in human form or messiah.
For further explanation on slavery and its recurrence in history I will first wait for your answer on the 'ultimate truth' part.
And remember the ottoman empire and 14th century will be crucial in that
From occult community , means he had human masters / gurus . The other path from normal life's been chosen by universe itself ,🙏🤗🌍😁
Satori.Liberation.
Bro was different 🗿😎
Though 'the interconnectedness of life' is referred to as Krishnamurthis idea in this video, this comes from the ancient Hindu philosophy of Advaita Vedanta propounded millenia ago..Whatever referred to as spirituality in the West is basically Hindu and Buddhist philosophies..
Boy do I teach my kids and others in my life about Krishnamurthi. I;m scared from his explanation on death, though.
He was exceptional as a speaker. However, mortals should not be idealized. He did not acknowledge his own daughter. Covered up. Carried away by glory and new life, he lived redemption. Osho is a story in itself, why did he have 93 Rolls Royce? And Jung was a force, yet he had 7 mistresses and believed that a woman's role was only to be a wife and mother. (You have better videos than this one.)
I always thought that the anti-guru was U.G Krishnamurti.
0:09 "One of the greatest thinkers of our age"- the Dalai Lama; yet he's still peddling his own business of so-called Buddhism. So no change there.
He is the great man, but by my opinion he made some wrong conclusions.
1. He couldn't build building or airplane because he is not engineer. He didn't practice Hatha yoga. How can give any conclusion about it.
And many other thing....but not enough space....
2. Many ancient text talk same as his teaching.
So only what is acceptable of his numerous teaching( by his criterium) can be only one sentence: "Observe yourself". Everything what he said if we put in the some book is " new theory".
Jika tidak ada sifat perkauman go on. Discuss issues. Adam family love
Dear Krishnamurthy,
You are limited knowledge. I won't worry about you.
So, he was basically a Daoist?
Sounds a lot like Rudolph Steiner
I became enlightened after begging God as my life was destroyed and was suffering badly, for 6 months I was a tool of God, I had a greater mind, I had an energy, i was also put through trials, I had Mary, Jesus and the Father speaking to me, God made it so I could do things easier, without effort, now I am left with a mind that corrects me, I feel like I have left reality, the world of beliefs, they hit the reset button on me, after 19 years of hanging in, I have to try to get my life back but its difficult as people are doing horrible things to me and no one will help
Your situation still sounds bad
Enlightment is an accident that happens during meditation. When you loose your identity, you are still hitting the bulls eye. Be happy.
His teachings never made sense to me
Why overlook his many contradictions; such as his very ordinary desire for sex, which he tried to hide from his followers. Not that sex matters, but the way it happens does; jumping into a woman's bed uninvited is not the action of a free man, nor is having one of your many lovers abort a baby a "sacred act". He obviously had insight, but no more than others. As for "the process", again that can be viewed for what it was, regression not advancement. Really, his day-to-day life was no different to that of those he renounced and decried.
Do you think enlightenment means that you can't make a fool of yourself?
@@minimal3734 He's the one who preached otherwise, who more than suggested it is a "better way", a "holistic way". So stating such, and yet failing to live up to it all is not worthy of pursuit as it is simply more deluded nonsense.
Yes, I know he thought of himself as some form of "vehicle" and derided Spiritualist Mediums, Trace States, Hypnosis, etc, stating he was not like them in a derogatory manner.
So much of Krishnamurti shows him for what he was, just like all these guru's... simply superficial.
However, to answer your question; no, an Enlightened person would not be full of contradiction, nor misleading anyone.
@@haraldtheyounger5504 I am not here to defend JK. Enlightenment means different things to different people. For me it is the insight into the illusory nature of the constructed identity. From my own experience I can say that this changes very little. This character still has the same flaws as before. But there may be levels to the game and your understanding may differ.
@@minimal3734 Insight changes the very nature of consciousness... and therefore action. To me, he was just another in the line of many deluded frauds. He is on record of stating that without being able to do all these talks, live the life made available by his followers, that he just see no point in living. That is hardly the statement of an enlightened one.
Stop using word he believes, instead use the word he knows.
Do one about osho, isn't fair if you don't after make one of the great JK😢
I get those headaches when I eat gluten
"Anti guru" that put himself on a pedestal, charging others to hear him speak.
A true fraud.
JK was pretty much about everything but dogma!
Nobody will ever understand Jiddu untill they know about the heart and the mind and how the two cannot co exist should one seek ultimate freedom. He was for freedom from this binary matrix, which is why everyone hates him. You are slaves to your own identities, slaves to your selves, not a metaphor. You quite literally, are all prisoners of your own mind, lost in lust and looking "out there" for guidance, crawling down the dark alleys of Guru's and their truth empires, it leads right back to the womb. There is no such thing as a God and a Man, for one nourishes the other, and the man is not being nourished by the God, that's for sure.
he really did the thing didn't he?