Medicine is Sick: Nurses describe why they've left the profession
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2022
- Those who care for sick patients know the system is in crisis. But if medicine is sick, how will healthcare workers take care of themselves so that patients can get better? Over the next several weeks WGN News will talk with doctors, nurses and administrators about medicine.
RN for 28 years, just got a job with the post office!
How is it ?
I'm a hospital nurse and completely disgusted with what has happened these past few years. Informed choice is gone.
Absolutely. Thank you for recognizing that and taking a stand.
I have *never* seen genuine informed consent happen, even before the coof.
I'd die in the peace of my own home before going to an American hospital. Death and rebirth are mere cycles of life, however, hospitals are horrible places for patients as well as nurses and any other caring staff.
Your nurse is in charge causing these situations you have a group with no hands trying to restructure the nursing field now mind you most of them never really work 8 or 16 hours on each floor so they can understand what it's like basically you have a bunch of RNs all they ever did was go to school for 6 years to get that Masters they didn't know nothing about working in the hospital thank you so much and you are be kind to each other
Agreed.
Good for them for leaving. Nursing is an abusive profession. We take a lot of abuse from management, other nurses, and other people on the medical team. Your whole life revolves around a profession that doesn’t care about you, but everyone wants something from you. I will be leaving nursing too very soon. I can’t give this profession another day of my life, it’s not worth it.
I remember a long-ago TV movie with Cheryl Ladd playing a nurse who became addicted to prescription meds. She had a line about the profession that really resonated: "We (nurses) have all the responsibility and none of the authority." I was in a different allied health job; I lasted 5 years. For a long time I felt guilty about abandoning the profession, but when I accompanied my elderly parents on their more frequent visits to the hospital, I noticed there were very few nurses, imaging techs, lab techs, etc over the age of 35. The current healthcare system is a meat grinder for those who work within it; the intense workload and overwhelming sense of responsibility (with no power to effect real change) is too much to sustain for decades. @Jen C, I wish you success in finding a new career.
Hell yes !!! Ten years of hell led me to drugs to deal with the stress !!
@@johnberry2877 😢
Don't forget to mention the nasty family members and demanding ungrateful patients with unrealistic expectations.
Literally
No time to eat or drink while on duty no time for bathroom, call bells and alarm going off all the time. Disrespectful patients and families
On top of that carrying a bunch of keys in your pockets all day while you only get to use one particular key from that bunch. Dealing with ungrateful family members and demanding doctors. Literally everything is on the nurse shoulder. It's disgusting
Yes, the family and patients are horrible now. I think covid killed all the good patients.
Oh shat it you heartless c0ws
Our societies are traumatized and angry. It carries on like a domino effect. However, if we learn to be kind to one another, we heal. I'm sorry for your experience
The families and patients are demanding and the hospitals force nurses to put up with the abuse because hospital care is centered around patient satisfaction due to reimbursement rates. They don’t care about patients either is all comes down to money
I quit my job at a nursing home when I saw residents lives were deliberately terminated and the facility was protected from law suits. A nursing home is a dangerous place.
You're the 1st person online, ive seen say this. I know what you're seeing.
I became a nurse in 2009. I worked as a travel high risk labor/delivery/obstetrics for 8 years and dabbled in hospice at the very end. I quit in 2017 when I realized how sick and corrupt the medical industry was. We were never there to heal people. We were there to drug them with the pharmaceutical industry. Theres a terrible problem when we are feeding fast food to patients and then filling them full of big pharma. I felt like i was selling my soul and harming people in the process. No amount of money (over $100k a year as a traveler pre 2020...that number has tripled,) was worth the harm I was causing by being a part of the system.
The whole system is broken. Healing comes from the food we are consuming. What fuel you put in your body determines your energy level in life.
Exactly. I'v felt this all along. That's why carers where invented to clean up the mess that big pharma create all for the love of money. Yes I'm a carer in a nursing home a proud of it. It breaks my heart to see what drugs can do to some of our most vulnerable.
Wow 🙏🏼
Local CardioDoc's head exploded when I told him NO to statins and explained that I've learned by decade+ of experience my LDL can be controlled by oatmeal and a modified version of Linus Pauling's proline, lysine, vitamin C, and flush niacin. 20+ co-workers have done the same after seeing my results. He actually started screaming at me. 100% convinced he must get royalties or a % of RX's he writes.
@@johnnysfunzone743 thank You 🙏🏼
I agree with you completely. God bless you
As a stage four cancer patient… I’ve seen how horrible our greedy healthcare industry is and it’s terrifying for me and I’m certain for everyone else and it’s just not fair and it’s wrong
I am so sorry I hope you get better.
Hi Ann, please if you have the time and energy, look into Rife machines. I just bought one from Spooky 2. Dr. Royal Rife was curing stage 4 cancers back in the 40s! Of course our crooked system has covered it up. Please let me know if you have any questions, I just got into this myself and am learning a lot. A non-invasive treatment that’s worth looking into
Evidence? Data? You can't just put your angry "opinion" out here and expect people to believe you. Look, I'm sorry for what you're going through, but it sounds to me like you want to blame someone, anyone, for your current condition. Maybe you should have laid off the Moon Pies and cigarettes.
@@allie9015z I love that you are sharing the above information. Medicine is focused primarily with pharmaceuticals and surgery, so of course anything that deviates from that will always be shunned, which is a shame.
@@maxalberts2003 For one thing: The United States charges money to see a doctor and for medical treatment. So if you had, say, c*ncer, and you couldn't afford treatment? You would just pass away. (Sorry for the censors; my comment might get deleted otherwise. 😅) Edit: in every other Westernized country, there's socialized medicine (Canada, Britain, Sweden, Denmark, and I believe Australia, too; etc). I was actually born with a medical condition (Hashimoto's Thyroiditis), and the only reason why I'm even able to get medication is because I live in a country with socialized healthcare.
I’ve been a nurse for 6 years, and in healthcare for a total of 14 years, starting out as a CNA. I romanticized the idea of what working in healthcare would be at a young age and was rudely awakened to the greed of the healthcare industry. After recently giving notice to my last nursing job in the hospital, I was promptly let go and received my last pay check the next day. I had said I’d work the weekend and they cut me loose knowing that my co workers would be short staffed. Management retaliated because I chose my mental health over their failure to staff appropriately and bullying. They answered their own question if they wonder why they cannot retain nurses. I am now a nurse at an outpatient clinic, and going to school for massage therapy. I also teach yoga classes. I want to help people, but in a different way. Instead I’m going to help people through pain relief and teaching them how take care of themselves through yoga.
Yoga is excellent for a lot of chronic diseases, combined with Ayurveda it can help patients a lot... greetings from a Yoga and Ayurveda practicionner....
Good for you. xo
"Do more with less!" (fewer). My response. "You, first! Adios!" Feh ;)...
don't worry, the phillipino nurses will filll the position. they are mobilizing like armies....and they WILL work in poor unsafe conditions without a single complaint....working in the US is a million times better
I was so desperate to quit nursing I would picture myself wrecking my car on the way to work to avoid the toxic sick care environment...Eventually I grew a backbone and quit and started my own business which was a Godsent..So grateful for my wonderful life today...
What do you do, if you don’t mind sharing?
@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 Hello, Im a Realtor (have my real estate license) as well as created and developed a property management company where I serve my clients as well as manage my own properties that I have purchased and renovated..I feel very Blessed to be doing what I love to do.
Good for you! You deserve it. Glory be the God above
@@alyssarodriguez5865 Yes, I am extremely grateful for Gods guidance in my life, and how my fear was eliminated through his light and Love
@@tpowell3776 my mom was a 17 year old with two little babies (my brother & I) she was a dental assistant for 22 years getting $22 an hour for her 22 years of experience. She finally took a leap and left all she knew and got her real estate licensing. She is doing better than ever before and her only regret is wishing that she had left much sooner. I wish you all the best
I retired from nursing after 41 years. The lack of support and abuse from the system and others is overwhelming. I paid with my health…I would never encourage anyone to enter the field..
I agree with you totally Jill.
And being single, made me stay even longer - it's daunting to leave when you need the financial piece - not that it was what we deserved, but....indeed, and same -paid with the health. And I am disabled from being a "frontline" (every shift is front line..gimme a break) "hero" now zero, working urgent care (moved there after 20 years in hospital, and once Obama"care" took effect with all the mandates, I had to leave.. moral injury led to syncopal episode and they made me still, get back out on the floor and I? I did it. My fault. I wasn't as deep into my inner healing journey yet that was the reason I likely chose and was good at nursing and had a hard time leaving...we all know we got "something deeper" out of it....well, I reached rockiest of the rock bottoms and when I contracted severe covAIDS in March 2020 on the urgent care lines and my company said " take your Tylenol, get fever free and back to work".....I was just getting worse and worse from the inflammatory storm with no help since I refused the vent I didn't need -- the gaslighting was so bad, I really needed to be admitted to the burn unit.....) and I'm stuck now, but yes, I literally died to save lives, and I regret not one minute of it. It was never the patient's fault and always management. When you reach your liimt, and sometimes that limit is reached FOR you but catastrophic events? You don't, won't and can't go back.
Hmmm why did RUclips cross out the most important part? ....
@Jennifer when you put a dash before and after sentences it creates a -strikethrough-
@@applejellypucci Thanks for letting me know this Jennifer ! I had no idea.
I use to be a healthcare professional and left. Personally, I found that the workload would have been more bearable if the team wasn’t toxic and more supportive. Doctors, PTs, OTs even SLPs were always frustrated and took out their frustration on others especially those who were nicer/positive as they were an easier target. They are the ones who end up leaving so no wonder we get horrible service since we are left with ppl who went into healthcare for the wrong reasons. Even my brother in law and his girlfriend who are doctors told me they see patients as dollar signs. He only takes 3-5mins per patient since they are paid by the act. How can you possibly get an accurate diagnosis in 5 mins…
Facts!! I’m planning on leaving and never looking back. The toxic coworkers are make so much worst and than the patients fuss too. It’s too much
This is so true! Healthcare is toxic.
And you are contracted with an ins company not the hospital. It's the ins company that pays you to practice in the hospital...not the actual hospital.
It is toxic for sure and I don't see it ever getting better.
@@midnull6009 so, what's your point? I still work for the hospital, even if I am contracted.
“It’s increasingly harder to do the simplest things for patients these days”
speaks volumes
Yes
I'm a registered nurse in the UK. The pay in the National Health Service (NHS) for nurses is insulting with many of my colleagues having to go to food banks to feed themselves and their families. I left due to burnout in 2018 after suffering with Postnatal depression and being bullied by my manager because of it. He tried to sabotage my career whilst I was at my most vulnerable. Honestly, those who smell blood and grab a knife are the worst and do not belong in healthcare. I didn't let it destroy me. I gained my prescribing qualification and I now run my own successful Medical Aesthetics business. I feel bad that I had to leave behind those who needed my skills the most but my family were suffering as much as I was and ultimately, I had to make the change for the good of my children and my marriage. No regrets. Life is short and should be lived. Be happy :)
I can't wait to leave too. Nursing is disgusting
Oh I have so many matching stories for that. I'm with you in spirit, from over the pond in NJ, USA where we're turning into Divided States of Communism. Well put and very well stated. Be holy, healthy and whole
I felt that way too. I was in the Education field and kept getting bullied. Even when others knew I was at my lowest, other people bullied me more. I don’t need to deal with that so I left the profession.
They pay in the USA isn't great either. At least not where I'm at
The bad ratios have been a problem even when I was a staff nurse way back in the mid-90’s.
I regularly had 8-9 surgical patients, fresh post-ops. With admissions you could go up to 13. Day shift in a Chicago area hospital.
I wound up transferring to registry critical care, and I can tell you, the public is completely unaware that ER’s were overwhelmed and going on bypass every week then.
This is NOT a new problem. Hospital system have been ignoring these issues for decades and the pandemic just made the public aware of it.
Nurses have long been treated by the systems as a consumer product. Used up and then discarded.
This was confirmed for me during the pandemic in multiple ways. I spoke to a doctor who told me that he was in charge of purchasing and maintaining the stockpile of protective equipment before the pandemic. They are mandated to have an emergency stock pile. Months before the pandemic began he ordered the mandated months worth of supplies. They never arrived. He discovered that someone in administration cancelled the order because it was too expensive. And then covid hit and the nursing staff had to wear the same masks for months and they were down to wearing trash bags instead of protective gowns. This doctor told me that these same admins would come to the hospital in N95s and pristine equipment while the people who were actually providing care were unprotected.
During the pandemic, the mayor of NY tried to get the US government to conscript doctors and RN’s. To FORCE them to work wherever they were placed, moving them around the country like slaves. He suggested this to save his own political skin and to save some of those sweet sweet covid dollars for himself and his political cronies. Why pay RN’s $150 an hour when we can conscript them and pay $30?
I always suspected that some day the nursing shortage would massively accelerate and that day has arrived.
We are in for bad times, people.
I'm a nurse and made a video about leaving to work at Target my first year. 21 years in, I now have 2 businesses, and I'm much happier ☺️
I saw that video wow!!
@@Citygal01 😃
I’ll have to watch that video. Hope you’re doing well.
@@janetmiller2980 thank you! I'm doing well! :)
@@Citygal01 what business did you started off it's ok ask?
I’ve been a nurse 3 years- I don’t plan to stay much longer. I started nursing right before the Covid outbreak in 2020. I know that probably played a part in my burn out, but I think nurses and other healthcare professionals are generally empathetic, intuitive, selfless, and intelligent people. We can only deal with so much abuse from the system before we realize we deserve better. We would tell each other, “you deserve better”, we would tell our patients, “you deserve better”, and eventually we tell ourselves, “you deserve better”.
I promise you, you would’ve still burnt out even without Covid. I felt burn out by my 3rd year as well, that was in 2018
"covid outbreak".... PLANDEMIC. Nurse of 20 years here..and this ended it for me. I'm on disability right now from not getting the care I spent 20 years giving. Yes on the "so much abuse from the system" 100% precise and I wish some one on this video SAID THAT
What's really disgusting is I paid $90,000 I still have the student loan to only get paid the crap wages that I got paid and they're pulling people off the streets to do what we used to do after 2 years of schooling.
@@Jennifer-gr7hn wow! This is exactly how I feel burned out. I even tried working at retail stores and all I did was get sexually harassed by men. It's like can't go anywhere these days. I hope you feel better. I know that I do after reading all your posts I want to start a club.
I was a Registered Nurse who trained at a University Teaching Hospital from 1973 to 1975. I worked in Acute Care Medicine for 3 years. And then quit the profession.
Why?
Bullying from my co workers to an unbearable degree ( remember, we are in life and death situations ) No help from above, head nurses, etc. The stress was simply not worth it.
We were chronically short staffed. Daytime - 6 patients. Night Shift - often only 2 nurses for 38 patients!!
The entire system of the delivery of care needed changing then and still does. My Mom was so puzzled that I left Nursing until she went to work as a Ward Clerk. Then she understood. She said, they have to change the whole system - that was about 35 years ago.
I don’t see any change after being a patient or having my kids as patients. Everything falling apart during the Pandemic was no surprise to me. It was bound to happen. I have no idea what is going to happen to the delivery of care and I am including doctors who just don’t seem to have the same care for people. You need to have a “ meet and greet “ with a new doctor if your old one retires or moves away. And they can refuse to take you as a patient.
This is caring??
First, where can I watch the rest of the series? I've been an ER nurse for almost 20 years and I'm almost 70. Survival in this profession has a lot to do with self care. Having a healthy diet, exercising and leaving work at work are keys to surviving being a nurse. COVID was just a blip for me because I never bought into all the hysteria. We are always working around all kinds of germs that we never really give much thought. Those who freaked out over COVID have forgotten this. C-Diff, MRSA, VRE, TB, Flu, parasites, people coming in with maggots on various parts of their bodies, etc. We are always surrounded by things, if not handled properly, can make us sick or even kill us. For 36 hrs a week, I'm trying to help people even when they won't help themselves. When I'm not working, I'm hiking, planting trees or working in my garden never giving work a second thought.
Exactly.
Thank you. I love this comment. Self care is my #1 priority, its just not going to work if I'm not going to give myself that "extra".
That's the way to do it. I'm an EMT and hope to become a nurse. I worked in human services before and got a degree in it. They drill it into our brains and school on self-care and leaving stuff at work.
I've lost all faith in the business of medicine
The plandemic exposed them all as the liars they are.
Yep. Like so many things, it should never have been a "business" to start with.
It's completely corrupt!
@@penyarol83 exactly what i was gonna comment, healthcare shouldn't be associated with business...ever.
I’m in school for this and feel so down all these signs makes me not want to do it sad sad sad everyone is sad in the medical field
It’s slavework essentially. Give us safe staffing ratios and better pay. We’re so underpaid for the amount of work. Also work protection from patients assaulting us and killing us.
Tbh Nurses arent really underpaid I mean 28-40+ an hour for a BSN RN, thats well well well above decent living. Travel nurses can pull 3-5 grand a week on assignment. The money is there, but the work load is just too high and not having time to take a proper lunch or take time for mental health takes its toll. I only say the pay is fair because their are other positions in the medical field that aren't nearly as lucrative but still deal with the same BS. EMS workers are underpaid. CNAs and Techs are underpaid. The medical field as a whole just needs a shift in culture so the people taking care of others have time to take care of themselves.
@@Eric_Bassettjust because it’s above average doesn’t mean it’s good pay. They are underpaid for their duties. They aren’t working at McDonald’s. A good nurse or bad nurse can be the difference between life or death.
@@mssha1980 yes and a good or bad paramedic can also be the difference between life and death..yet they dont make anywhere close to what an RN makes. Like I said.. cry me a river. Becoming a BSN RN probably carries one of the best return on investments for a bachelors level degree. The pay isn't the problem, its the workload which is a different conversation entirely. Im sorry but its laughable to insinuate nurses are broke or something, they are not. ITs just a tough job nowadays but like i said its tough all over in the medical field and they are doing better than many others who are equally as important in the service they provide.
@@Eric_Bassett crazy concept…… nurses can be underpaid at the same time that all other healthcare workers can be underpaid. CNAs and EMTs and RTs, etc. are all underpaid for the grueling work they do. So are nurses. Paramedics are absolutely vital _and_ underpaid. One of these types of healthcare professionals being underpaid and overworked does not mean other healthcare professionals aren’t underpaid too. It’s not mutually exclusive. They all do SO much and are all deserving of better pay
@@Mangocakegurl you know what, that’s an excellent way to look at it.
One of the things about nursing is it is not a billable service. We’re part of the bed charge, seriously. When I became a nurse in 1995, there were nursing shortages which has always been the story. When a CNA calls in sick, you pick up the work. Food services short…you deliver and pick up trays. Short in housekeeping…you mop bloody floors and take dirty linen to baskets. The story hasn’t changed much. With the advent of electronic charting, it increases the amount of time charting. If pharmacy doesn’t deliver meds, you have to go to them to pick up. Oh and then no transporters today so you have to leave your other patients to take your patient to imaging. And then you are asked why your meds were beyond thirty minutes late. What about communication between physician specialties? Realistically, there isn’t enough time. What has happened to the American system of healthcare? Government, greed from insurances, profit margins with pharmaceuticals, abuse of system from non-paying patients, regulatory agencies, the list goes on. Physicians receive less pay, the cost of liability insurance goes up, and there’s little time for life unhinged. That is why good people are leaving healthcare. Yvonne
You expressed my sentiments exactly about Nurses having to fill in for everyone else
Nailed it
Here in northern CA, illegal aliens receiving services for free.
Thank you for this story WGN. After 44 years in nursing, I retired two years early. To the for profit health care CEO's, nurses are a money taker, and more patients and tests a money maker. Nurses are short staffed on purpose, to boost profits and best practices are not supported.
Yes so short staffed it's abusive to nurses AND patients! I'm in home care now making way less than the average RN pay for nurses in my state.
@@sunshinegirl1967 Well then go work in a hospital if you're so concerned about salary.
This video confirms the blessing of not having a license. I saved myself a world of stress and drama
Lucky you.
I withdrew from nursing school due to the lack of care from my own proctors and educators… then worked at a hospital and saw the exact same mistreatment from all angles of the medical profession
You took a good decision,
The contract I'm at now has students on the floor, the instructor does nothing all day and plays on her phone. The students are learning nothing. It's scary what is happening. I hope I die before I end up in the hospital.
Same!
@@ellenscott6793wow this sounds scary …
Healthcare as a whole is not what it used to be. I can speak from experience working with physicians who do wake up at 5:00am and coming home at 8:00pm but no 3 days a week, 5 sometimes 6 days a week and on average manage 26-30 patients a day. It is INSANE. Respect to all healthcare workers.
2 physicians I work for now were sick of the corrup healthcare systems, especially the hospital systems. They opened up their own practice in functional/holistic medicine, added on two more integrative providers. Now a team of 4 and 2 nurses, we get people OFF medications, encourage correcting vitamin/mineral and other nutrient deficiencies mostly thru diet (keto and intermittent fasting) and exercise, and balancing hormones. We reverse type 2 diabetes every day, people are getting off cholesterol, BP, acid reflux meds...to name a few, they are finally losing Weight in a healthy way, and not feeling sick and tired of being tired. Ill never work for anyone else or be involved in traditional healthcare for any amount of money. Ive been offered a lot more, Ill never do it. If I can practice nursing in this way at any point in time, I will not be a nurse elsewhere.
I've been a bedside RN for 30 years. You have to be nuts if you want to be a nurse.
Absolutely a sham of a profession. It's a rotten industry from the top down and from the bottom up.
why did u stay in the sham for 30 years? Most nurses should not be in nursing at all, and most doctors should not be doctors. The reason why the quality of healthcare ij yhr US declined significantly is because the wrong type of people went into these fields, the people that are doing it for the money instead of the being passionate about helping others. I can tell from the faces of nurses and doctors if they truely care about their patients, and i concluded that almost all of them dont care what happens to their patients. there are only a handful of nurses and doctors that care, and almost impossible to find them.
Thank the CEO and Wall Street for that.@@archuk6058
I worked as a lab tech while in nursing school during covid. What I saw and experienced was so upsetting, I quit nursing school and my lab tech job.
why did you quit being a lab tech?
@@hindbouchtout5989 I had to talk to nurses and doctors about their patients results. The amount of disrespect was awful. I get they were stressed because of covid and taking it out on me, but that's wrong of them. Also, at this hospital, if there are not enough people to draw blood from patients, I (lab tech) get sent out to draw blood. I'm Asian and the racism I experienced was very hurtful. It made me feel like I couldn't be a good nurse if I had to take care of someone racist, so I quit both. I've been happier ever since
@@choucobra That's sad. I HATE racism. You can't help what genes you were born into!
What are you doing now if you don’t mind me asking? I was interested in nursing and after volunteering at a hospital I said no way! Lost on what to do now as I took all the pre-reqs:(
Is lab tech a good job? In terms of payment?
I’m going back to school in January for a degree that is unrelated to nursing and I can’t wait for the semester to start. Next week I will give notice to my manager that I’m leaving. I’m leaving NURSING.
I’ve given 8 years of my life to this profession and it’s time to gracefully bow out while I still can. There is nothing noble about allowing yourself to be abused.
what will you be studying?
@@xalbatross1 best of luck for your studies!
I’m so sorry ❤ nurses are such powerful and intelligent people. It’s just disgusting what’s happening
Congratulations on starting your new journey! I’m so happy for you! 🎉
I’ve only been a nurse in icu for 3 years but I’m over it. I’m studying for mcat to apply to med school on the next application cycle. I’m forcing myself to keep working for the clinical hours and letters of rec on my application.
@@seapinkoyster good for you!! I hope you do well. My dream is to never be responsible for a sick person again.
After 20 yr as a cna I’m doing Homecare and Doordash I’m burn out from facility
I hope everyone who leaves is able to find something they are passionate about. After 20 years in healthcare and 17 years as an ICU RN I still love my job. I see the changes and am saddened by them but I can't leave the patients. They need us and I love helping them. I respect my patients' choices and teach them how to improve their health when they leave my care. I work hard to maintain a good work/life balance and stay grounded in my faith as a Christian. Prevents burnout and gives me a deeper purpose for what I do.
Amen! We need Christians in every workplace! We bring light and love to our customers, patients, and coworkers.
Umm, that's just it! We DO love and ARE passionate about it. That's the problem! We can't do it with out conscience anymore. It's CRAP and people deserve better. I mean the patients.
Keyword - Christian. This changes everything. God gives the strength to endure the most difficult circumstances.
Thank you !
Thank you sister in Christ ! God gives us strength and helps us be selfless for Him and others over our selves .. God Bless you and I pray He provides for your needs and protects you and your family! In Jesus Name !
I’m one of them, planning my exit strategy. This has been going on way before the pandemic. Profit over patient safety always
Yes, it was. It's disgusting how patients and staff are abused by these corporate healthcare systems. Even if they claim nonprofit they are still about the profits.
I think about leaving nursing as well…I just don’t know what I will do. Good luck to you as you plan for your future! You’re not alone.
Been a nurse for 17 years and for the very first time in my career I cried the other night during my shift. My husband told me to quit.
So sorry. Hang in there. You are solid and needed. Many avenues for nurses. Please consider.
We allowed corporations to take over and now “healthcare” is all about profit. Healthcare being run under a corporate model…this is what we are left with.
I'm not even a nurse (I'm actually a patient in a hospital), and even I can understand why so many nurses are leaving. In my experience, nurses generally care about patients, but are often hindered by managers.
Edit: I've also seen good nurses getting pushed around by bad nurses. In my personal experience, the best nurses are the ones who aren't necessarily mean, but are capable of dishing out the same disrespect that they get from other nurses, patients, and family members of patients.
Edit 2: I no longer live there now. 😊
Thank you for thinking of us even in your own suffering. We really do care about our patients but it’s hard to properly care for you these days as greedy corporate health systems take over. It’s brutal. Best wishes for a full recovery for you!
I won’t go near a hospital at this time! No trust anymore! Good luck finding pure blood!
I was in ICU then had tubes to drain my lungs for a spinal infection and lung infection. They jerked the tubes out and sent me to an assisted living facility about 2 weeks to early. I’m still very ill. Hospitals are brutal slaughter houses.
The problem is that hospitals are run by managers and not doctors. Actually, that accounts to every industry. MBAs ruin everything because all they care about is numbers.
they dont care, if they did they wouldve give the patients poison medications everyday.
Every single comment shared below here is valid and has merit, 100%. How can thousands of nurses collectively feel the same and express the very same words all over the country. Me being from the deep South I just have a lot of hospitality for my patients. I was on a Covid assignment in 2020 out of state, and had a very nervous 17 yr old who was very afraid of needles and all vaccines he ever had. My intrinsic nature was to calm him and explain how vaccines work, and I had a nurse manager hovering behind me the whole time. After finishing the vaccine and documenting his record, this manager came and leaned hard into my ear and said "uh your being too chatty, and we discourage that" I wanted to punch him in the face and tell him you just tried to take the nurse right out of me. That said to me that very large healthcare systems want all their nurses to be dehumanized robots, and that is precisely how they have been treating us.
Robots is exactly where it's going. They call it "grace" its been used in nursing homes in Japan. These systems will burn you to the nub and throw you away without a second thought. I did NICU and Psych nsg both in inner city Phila. Hellish experiences at times. Its the Rockefeller allopathic system, not healthcare.
Nurses who were kind to me and chatty were part of the reason I healed from serious surgeries. They gave me hope. And I'll never forget them. Bless you!!
@@vallivergano239 how kind of you to say that, to me, to the nurses that were able to share those moments of genuine care. That is truly the most rewarding and validating reason we want to be with our patients.
@@sarahchandler695 🤗
@@vallivergano239 Amen! Well-said! And I, too, have experienced the same! Blessings to you, @sarahchandler695!
I loved nursing 30 years ago when I first started the profession. Now, the thought of going in to work causes me such anxiety that it has led to physical problems-GI issues. I can’t continue working at a job that is literally making me sick. Greedy corporate health systems are ruining our ability to properly care for our patients due to fewer and fewer resources in order to “save money”.
I went into nursing in 1998 at age 40 as a second career because I'd felt led to be a servant in that capacity. Little did I know that the medical establishment only cares about the bottom dollar. My idea of caring for patients the way I would want my own mom to be cared for and the reality of hospital nursing were two VERY different things. The hospital administrators' favorite saying was, "time is money". Still waiting on labs to come back before sending a patient to surgery? Send them anyway - time is money! Edicts from the top down were constantly putting more pressure and responsibility onto nurses, especially after significantly reducing ancillary staff that used to help us. Every day I felt like my license was in jeopardy jumping through administrative hoops and struggling to do the bare minimum for my patients. To the Admin, nurses were expendable and they could care less how you felt. I loved my patients but HATED the way healthcare was being run...and this was BEFORE Covid! When March 2020 rolled around, I had just quit a full-time job in Sept 2019 and was just looking for part-time work. At 62 and uncertain about the Covid situation I waited. I'm glad I did because it gave me time to do a lot of research. What I found convinced me 100% I wanted NOTHING MORE to do with healthcare as it stands now.
Which country is the experience of ?
@@trudy285 GREAT points! There are a lot of things that need change in healthcare but your two points would be a great start. Yes, bullying in nursing is ridiculous. And they consider you guilty until proven innocent. What’s worse, is the ones doing the bullying (at least in my cases) were always the manager’s/supervisor’s pet. They were usually the ones who could literally do the bare minimum all day and never get called out. Because if a person DID try to call them out, instead of talking it out one on one they’d run to the manager and make up a story to make that person look bad. Ugh, I’m SO glad to be away from that drama.
@@trudy285 Ha, glad you could make the best out of a bad situation! 😀 I’ve never been suspended but came close. In one instance I had to quit a hospital I’d worked at for 18 years over their new sick policy. They went from allowing five sick days with each call-in giving you three days without counting as another occurrence, to three sick days and two days per call-in. So basically from 15 sick days to 6 sick days. In March of the year this started (2015), I got sicker than a dog - fever, hacking, coughing, green snot - sicker than I had EVER been. I ended up being out 7 days. I came back with a doctor’s note documenting it all. It didn’t matter. They said my next call-in would mean termination. I had NEVER abused calling in like others did. I was flabbergasted. With 9 months to go in the year I said, screw you and gave my two week’s notice.
@@carlapierle8623 whoever complains first is right. Happened to me all the time.
@@annellacannella5674 Sad. And they wonder why there's been a nursing shortage.
28 years as a RN, I am quite capable of owning other businesses...With all my experience, hospitals in Cleveland want to pay me Less than I pay my housekeeper.. BYE
I am a Nurse about to leave the Nursing world. I am burning out of No time off because of we are too short of workers. Then again, no time off period. Staff to patient ratios are too high. I would have 30 to 60 patients and it was causing too much stress. Management does not hear you. Your family and the nurse don't matter we just need you here. I just can't do it anymore. I see patients going without proper care. I can't have that on my conscience. I am leaving Nursing because the system is broken.
30-60 😳
I interviewed for a nursing position and they told me I wouldn't be able to take time off until the following November, so almost a year, because they were upgrading from Cerner to Epic... I was like, yea, no, I'll pass!
@@Abmarp That's the standard nurse-to-patient ratio for nursing homes (30-60). In hospitals, it's less (about 5-7, depends on what unit) but still heavy workload.
I’ve been a LPN for 14 years. Started my career in nursing homes and was absolutely devastated at the reality vs my romantic view of being a nurse. After a few years and two different facilities, I gave up bedside nursing. I lost too much weight and my hair was thinning; I was constantly worried and frustrated about the conditions, staffing and so much more. I found a telephonic nursing job 11 years ago and haven’t looked back. The hours are great and I talk to each patient as long as they need me. It was much less common back then, but now much more common. These telephonic nursing jobs are available in many sectors as well. If you’re in limbo about what to do next- can’t go on with where you are but do not want to throw away your education, it’s a great option.
12 hour shifts for nurses and CNAs meant the beginning of burnout for many, including myself. 12 hours is too much! Hospitals cannot give nurses the resources they need, because they have GREEDY CEOS running them, and the folks below them, all of whom only care that their pockets are well line with money!
It's actually 13 hours with charting and report
@@catalayatern2251 Don't forget getting ready at home!! ;)
nurses get paid too much
@@archuk6058 Ok, good luck finding a nurse to take care of you in the hospital, AND assess and monitor you continuously during your stay to make sure you don't need any intervention or change in plan of care, l if we get paid any less for the amount of work and responsibly we are burdened with EVERY SHIFT!! I'd say the Hospital CEOs are over paid, Hospital IT is over paid, and some of the physicians are over paid more so!! The CEO of my last hospital was paid 4 MILLION A YEAR, the IT folks were paid 100K plus.. I don't think nurses are the issue! You want me to have a four year degree and have a level of responsibility that equals a weight as heavy as the world on my shoulders EVERY SHIFT for 12 hours at a time, you damn well pay me well, otherwise my new job will become "Welcome to Walmart, would you like a cart?"!!!
Yep, I left bedside and the 12 hours shifts. It was so draining mentally for me. The people we cared for were very sick. We would just bandaid issues(heart failure, diabetes, kidney, respiratory..). The job wasn't giving me what I wanted out of it. I stepped away march 2022 and then recently went back to nursing as a PACU nurse for outpatient Ortho. I don't have the mental drain and working 8 hours five days a week is a much better fit for the family life that works for me, my kids, and my significant other.
That’s a shocking amount of workers leaving the field. I fear it will only exasperate the issue. We are in for a huge healthcare crisis in this country.
They will just employ them from overseas.
I left nursing last year after 11 years of medical/surgical and OR/scrub.
Haven’t figured out yet where to go next but this respite has been wonder for my soul. The medical field has been corrupted and is not the same as it once was. At all.
Patients are not being treated as individuals. They are getting a cookie cutter ‘protocol’ for their (probably wrong diagnosis or side effect of a medication they are on). I remember as a new grad in 2010 I had 20 patients on 7p-7a with ‘rehab’ patients who are discharged from the hospital too early and are still medically unstable. I’d go home from work at 10am because I had to finish charting. It was ridiculous BUT I WAS PRAISED FOR MY DEDICATION. Then I was eventually ‘spoken’ to a month later saying I’ve had a month to acclimate so ‘why am in leaving late?’ 🤯😳
Why is that a ? . When you caring for patients most times understaffed.
Because you are so busy taking care of patients the only time you can get all your charting done is when the next shift is on duty.
Lol ridiculous 😂😂😂😂.
My boss just asked me what my expectation for nursing is… because I asked to be per diem after one year…
Well, I am quitting now lol
They expect you to half ass the charts, and keep the patients waiting while you're doing it.
It's all about metrics now. Gotta meet that magic number. It hasn't been about patient's for the past 7 years or so. So sad to see.
I am not a nurse but I am a CNA in LTC care, I've been a CNA 20 years, I left LTC 10 months ago, I couldn't take seeing my residents neglected because we had up 25 per one Aid, my love of residents I worked my blood, sweat tears for but it all changed after the pandemic.
You are a treasure to do that for 20 years. Thank you.
It's really disheartening to see so many unhappy nurses quitting. Especially knowing how important healthcare workers are🫶... Not really sure how it would work, but it would nice to see all the nurses who feel the same way, come together to form some kind of organization/their own hospital🏥 and run it how their initial expectation of nursing was. I had a baby in March last year and remember how much I loved my stay and my nursing staff at the hospital. So if no one else tell you guys, I'm telling you you're appreciated!!! 👩⚕️👨⚕️💉🩺🥼⚕️💊🩻🧸🎀💕
Nice of you to say. Most of us are doing our best to hide our agony for your sake. Living in denial is a huge part of staying in the nursing field. I’m glad you had such a wonderful experience, that’s what it’s about for most of us. We want things to go well for our patients. It’s everything else that gets in the way and prevents us from putting you first and keeping you safe that is causing us to leave. Most nurses aren’t far from a hospital bed themselves, despite how healthy they may “seem”. It’s all very sad. I miss being able to go above and beyond for my patients, but the for-profit structure of the hospital just doesn’t allow enough time in the day. It’s painful and draining. And nurses are just trying to protect themselves for the sake of their families. That’s why we’re leaving. 😢
@@Daisy_Sparkles My goodness, this is all so sad😥...I had no clue it was this bad because my experience has always been a really lovely one. The baby I had also have diabetes and all of his nurses are always great as well. However, from my own experience, I know how life-draining it is to be overworked, underpaid and most of all unappreciated. I'm so sorry this is happening and I wish there was something that could be done about it. ❤️
I cherish the last 30 years of my nursing career. Now at 60 I'm ready for a new chapter. Old school nursing kept me in. I declined the 12 hr shifts knowing it wasn't for me. I was hired in at 8...that kept me sane.
8 is great. You have time to do something every day. When working 12, it's really 14 or more. At least in my experience.
I retired from nursing January 2022. Burned out! I lived and breathed nursing for 30 years. Was in hospital, Health Department, FQHC clinic and finally Family Practice Office nursing. You just give all day , you have nothing left for self or family.
I don't even talk about about the nursing profession anymore...It's just a job..I put in my time, clock out, go home and leave the job where it lay...at the hospital....
That's how it was when I was in the hospital. My parents knew not to ask me about my job.
It's funny you say that David, as a female nurse, I do find that male nurses do handle the stress MUCH better than us.
ICU nurse for 30 years. Just recently retired and LOVE IT! No more constant stress, BS politics and mandates, back-stabbing, demanding pts and family members, rotating 12 hr shifts, constant calls to work OT...do I sound upset about the state of hospital sick care? Damn right! So happy to be out of all that craziness. In the beginning I loved nursing but that was slowly beaten out of me. Was just barely hanging on at the end. Fortunately I am still healthy. Wish all you hospital workers the best.
Good luck.
Congrats!
Proud of you!
It's kind of funny I feel that way about teaching. I used to teach work with children. And I left because they just suck it out of you (school board, other teachers, management, parents etc). I'm an EMT now and I do want to become a nurse working with babies. Hopefully I can do it and hopefully I can do it for a little while so I can retire.
This is the worst Ive seen in Nursing after 27yrs. I wonder if they’re doing it on purpose to cause another health crisis.
I am about 29 years in. This job barely resembles the one I trained for in the early 90s. Thank God I invested in creating my own business 15 years ago
My usual day started at 3:30 am. I would wake up and begin my day. My commute was 40 minutes. I worked 12 hours on the floor. I usually didn’t have time for any breaks or meals. Nurses would stop briefly in the nurses lounge and take a quick bite. Bathroom breaks were unheard of. I worked in a locked, specialty unit, so being under staffed was common. Our patients never knew how dangerous it was. Many times, one nurse was taking care of over ten patients. Yes, we worried about our license. Then c o v I d hit. I can’t even imagine the abuse to nurses now......
I’m going to do my very best to prevent ever needing Rx, surgery or hospitals by making the health of mind-body & soul a priority. 💖
I abandoned nursing when I realized I was going to be abused by my employer, my head nurse, and my patient, all at the same time. I really don't know what is keeping people in the profession. I understand that nurses are needed, but the human mind can only take so much abuse. By the time I ended my career, I was one broken piano string, upstairs, away from a complete mental breakdown.
I’m thinking about switching to nursing but man after reading so many cons about nursing I don't think it's a field for me. This reason I considered nursing is exactly what the first nurse in the video said, getting to interact with people, it's an active job you're not constantly sitting down, etc but I don't think the amount of stress it's worth any pay. Thinking about going into a business route or a tech route but every day as I do my research I lose hope in nursing.
@@kevk4908 You will have no problem getting hired in any city of your choice. That is the one thing no career can say!
I quit nursing because being pulled from my unit to staff another was just too stressful. Not only was I in a strange unit ( sometimes completely out of my field of experience) but I would be starting 20 minutes to 30 minutes late. I hated this.
Floating should be limited! Or eliminated!
Can’t believe no one brought up the ungodly amount of computer charting
You’re so RIGHT. I spend more time at a computer than with my patients.
Click click click click click
EHR/COMPUTER CHARTING promised to greatly reduce the time that paper charting took. Not so ! Charting became incessant and nonstop to the detriment of actual patient care
Yet another way modern medicine lies
Nursing killed my empathy. The system is broken, and I don't think it's going to ever get better.
Nothing can kill empathy in a true empath. What you're feeling is, moral burnout and injury reaching rock bottom because you can no longer satisfy that inner child need in a system that is more narcissistic abuse that is all too familiar from our childhood. Rock bottoms are great! They trigger new beginnings. Chin up, get that empathy back because a little self care in the mind and spirit, you'll see....
@@Jennifer-gr7hn Agree!!!
12 hours is too much for this kind of work.
12 hour shifts are the most preferred for many reasons. It allows us to only work 3 days per week. Then we have more time with our families or do things for ourselves etc. we do have rules that RNs have to have so much time off between shifts. When your adrenaline is going 12 hrs is nothing.
@@americanmade8744 In my hospital we work 3 days duty or sometimes 4 days 12 hrs shift in a week with only 2 days off or if you got lucky maxximum 3 days off ( which is not happened all the time usually you will get 2 days off ) those are nothing if you are working 4 days straight, keep in mind not all the weekends off that depends in your schedule, not all hospitals have that same long off strategy ! we don't have a specific count shift per week we have a 16 shift per month that you need to complete , that why most nurses in saudi arabia are burn out becouse of that .
Working in a hospital in any capacity is rough. I did it in an administrative capacity for over 40 years. The politics are disgusting. It is a business period. Always remember that. Take care of yourself because if you get sick you are on your own in there.
Facts!
Change their shifts. No Nurse or Dr should be having to work a 12 hour shift. That is insane to expect them to work at the same level of awareness/compassion/present in the moment mindset that they must be in from the start of their shift until the very end of it. It's not right. Nurses are pivotal to patient care and healing, we owe so much to them. They should get good pay, quality RN to patient ratios and a reasonable working day, all of these could go a long way into keeping nurses around and attracting the next generation.
it's an option. 12 hour shifts three days a week? that's a 36 hour week, paid for 40 with four days off....stfu....you don't know what you speak.....
Nah, leave it as 12 hours. No way I'm coming in 5 days a week to get my full-time hours.
The 12hrs isn't the problem, plus, hours are flexible for a lot of nurses.
its easier for the Hospital to staff 2 nurses for a 24 hour period. Their profits and ease are paramount
12hours aren’t the issue
In my opinion healthcare is a business in America .Money maker hospital investors is not about well being, curing the health matabolic ailments is only about prescribing more pills RXeating only the symptons til the metabolic disease you have is triple .Noone is really investigating hospitals and doctors for proper care.Our nurses get the majority of the care.Nurses are overworked and underpay.Our polititians need to enforce and make sure all hospital administrations and doctors are doing what they are suppose to be. Doing in the name health,well being .Having good health and getting health. Care should be free for all and not get rich quick scheme that is allow in America.etc, etc.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "FREE" HEALTHCARE!! I wish people would get the idea that socialized medicine is free, you in fact pay with sky high taxes!!
It’s really eye opening to see this from a first world country. I am a doctor in a third world country and I couldn’t agree more with everyone who reached the peak of their frustrations. The issues expressed here mirror what we face in my country. I am already 6 years and although I loved what I do initially, it starts to suck the life out of you….I am very open to moving on for a better quality of life.
When you have a medical system that cares more about profits and political agendas than they do about people, then expect that system to collapse under it's own weight.
I’ve been a nurse for 22 years. I now work only in home health and when the two patients I have no longer need me I’m leaving nursing. There is no amount of money that could be paid to me for me to work in a hospital again.
Left nursing after 21 years.. I regret the time and energy I wasted for big pHARMa
This is so sad and depressing. I have been an RN for over 30 years and left the hospital(MSK in NYC) 28 years ago to Home Infusion Nursing exclusively. I have some patients for over 25 years and i feel a part of their family and vice versa to many of my patients. Driving around the Tri-state area to different places each day takes away any boredom. I also have such a diverse population in diseases and culturally/socio-economically that its very exciting and i miss my work when i am off. I feel very honored and blessed to be so fulfilled both monetarily and so so lucky to have such a great rewarding career and have never been out fo work for even 1 day over the last 30 years of my life. I feel so down seeing all these Nurses saying their career is toxic and harmful to their mental and physical health and i see some of that when i precept younger nurses.
As the whole world ages, but especially the US the Nursing shortage will only worsen and we need great people to care for the sick. I knew hospitals had gotten very corporatized but not that it was this bad. Bless you all and Good Luck no matter what you decide to pursue.
Good for you ! Is that through a home health agency or the hospital ?
@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 Hey my friend. I work for over 10 company's so i can stay PerDiem to choose my own cases to do or not do. So, 1 hospital and 10 agencies.
Nursing is a over saturated profession im tired of women my age in their 30s saying that it’s the best when we all know it isn’t . It’s too much responsibility and too much over worked and underpaid !
I know many nurses who are retiring early, or leaving altogether. They are turning in their licenses, and leaving the medical field behind. The patients are sicker, the workload has increased, the charting has doubled, and people are more impatient . Nurses get yelled at it by both patients and doctors. Nurses take care of patients at work, then go home to take care of their family. The nurses' health, both physical and mental, pays the price. Recruiters are begging for staff, hospitals are increasing the workloads. As the general population ages, they will have more difficulty finding good nursing help, either nurses or nurse assistants. Nursing homes have been shutting down since Covid, and there are bed shortages, because the hospitals can't move long term care patients out. New graduate nurses are being fast tracked to the bedside . Things are going to get much worse.
They can’t treat us if we’re not sick, y’all. They keep us sick. Not nurses, DOCTORS. Recommending carcinogenic diets and poisonous drugs instead of cleaning up the gut flora. NURSES have my upmost respect. They are patient advocates.
Being told to get a vaccine I wasn’t too comfortable getting until I did more research, or to be forced to quit my job which is my life line, is why i want to leave nursing. It’s not about pt care, its politics and money.
It almost seems at this point that we need to prepare to stay home and be sick and die. Hospitals are no longer safe for so many reasons.
Patient's are not even called patients anymore but Consumers. So strange to me & what does this say?
they call them customers in my hospital…
For profit healthcare.
At my nursing school, they call them clients.
Watching this after working bedside for 6 years. I quit 3 weeks ago.
I quit too
I left nursing over 20 years ago. Not one regret! Best choice I ever made.
I’ve been nursing going into my 34th year. I’ve progressively seen it become more and more laborious and more and more dangerous. I’d hoped that administrators would see how much they depend on us and our true value. But 2 yrs after the pandemic I’m seeing just the opposite. I saw nurses at Aspirus Health Care in Wisconsin STILL eating their own rather than supporting one another. I’m nearing the end of my career and with everything coming to a fever pitch, I fear nursing shortages will become more extreme (even greater than was predicted by WHO prior to 2020) and there won’t be anyone to care for me once I need it. Hospitals are asking for it with their strict budgets and bottom lines and colleagues stabbing newer nurses in the back before they truly understand their job. There’s not a shortage of nurses just bedside nurses. I work ICU and the sheer volume is creating a new standard of 3:1 ratios which will only cause death and detriment among the patients. The nursing staff will always be blamed when it in actuality is the fault falls squarely on administrative shoulders. People who barely understand what the floor is like commanding how the ship is run. Nurse managers have to stride between administrative and their nurses. Each one remembering their recent job as a nurse but having to cater to these people who have unrealistic expectations and wonder why people die. It’s not a mystery. You over work people and they leave…simple as that. Only they move to another huge hospital system trying to rake in profits only to find themselves in the same situation they left. I tried years ago to find a new profession but couldn’t afford to stop work so I could re-educate. I even tried a degree as a nurse practitioner. It’s low pay high work and thankless. So I came back to ICU where I make a little more money…yet less than I made in 2008. So yes nurses can’t always get ahead and they burn out. It’s a sad sick story but it’s repeated every in this country and new nurses are just not wise enough to see it…yet.
Im leavimg nursing to get my cdl
Best of luck to you
Have heard more of this lately...best of luck!
What is cdl please
@@superafromix commercial drivers license, as in the person is gonna be a tractor trailer driver.
I left in 2016 after 30 years... it's very sad that nurses can be so toxic towards each other... my son who just started nursing last year and loves his job I pray that he lasts...
45 years as an RN/ CHICAGO. RETIRED. Would never do it today. Ever.
Thank you for helping others for so long!
Nurses you are our heroes. Thank you
My problem with continuing to be a part of the “healthcare” system is the corruption. After I was professionally trained as a nurse I did investigations into the art of healing on my own. Then discovered that we purposefully do things to undermine the health of our patients. Even what we were trained and required to teach as far as diet was and is damaging. I cannot in good conscious recommend these things to my patients. I cannot any longer allow myself to be abused for money just because I have a nursing degree. To my way of thinking the “profession” of nursing has returned to what it was originally before it was made reputable by Florence Nightingale. We are abused by each other, by patients, by families of patients. Well that is sometimes understandable. But then we are abused by the bureaucracy. Accrediting agencies are constantly making up unscientifically substantiated new rules in order to justify their existence and which ultimately make the jobs of healthcare workers even more difficult than they already are, and really do nothing to help with patient safety, which is their stated goal. Somehow, I am competent enough to inset a Foley catheter or change a central line dressing, but not competent enough to have a drink of water available to me during my 12 hour shift for fear that this may cause contamination of my drink. So is for my own good that I am required to be dehydrated? Then we are abused by administration. The gaslighting is masterful. The realities of their policies put the patients, the nurses and their licenses at risk. They demand ever more work to be done in the 12 hour shift to the point that even the 30 minutes allowed for a lunch break is an impossibility. Meanwhile they get paid ever increasing high salaries and bonuses instead of allowing more staffing. Census is low, therefor you will be taking your usual load of patients with no CNA to help you and other nurses also will be sent home so do not count on any help there either. Being a nurse doesn’t have to be abusive……but it is.
I couldn't have articulated what you said any better. I agree with everything you have stated. I resented the government coming in and telling us how to do our useless care plans (we no longer had freedom to do them the way WE thought was best, but what the government dictated and it was cookie-cutter). Care plans are a waste of time. I honestly have never referred back to a care plan for my job. Plus, who has time?? We are forced to create one to cover ourselves, but none of us look at it unless forced to make an update or closing them out upon discharge. The Epic system is expensive and so the care plans should automatically be created from the information already placed in the system. It's hard enough to find time to read up on each patient and double check labs and medications and future tests. The abuse in nursing is so rampant and can be unbelievably stressful. Also, now since we have wokeness, our admissions are that much longer. "How do you identify and what are your pronouns?" "Oh, so you identify as an mammalian organism and wish to be referred to as Neptune and your they/them friend is wanting to be called Uranus?" I feel like it's become a circus. I quit in October of 2021 and am really enjoying my respite. I hope to find a part-time job from home soon, while working on building my own business. I've worked in hospitals since 1992 and am done.
Had a full 30+ year career in healthcare (fast paced metropolitan hospitals). It was 30+ years of mandatory overtime, long hours and nothing but punitive actions taken when a healthcare worker tries to care for themselves. This healthcare system is broken. I do everything in my power to NOT use the healthcare system in this country.
Caring for patients should focus on safety and valuing each human being. Nursing is toxic, abusive, underappreciated, and overwhelming. I should not be told I have "X" amount of minutes to get someone ready for surgery. I call myself a "data entry specialist" now instead of an RN, that's how it feels. Some day I hope to no longer be part of this broken redundant system, but my heart tells me I need to care and protect people.
Medicine is there not to make people well but to keep them in the hospital.
The main issue for me is hospitals have become about business and profit and less about patient care. If I hear one more time we have to do more with less I'm going to pull my hair out. My saving grace is I'm 18 months or less away from retirement. I dont know if would recommend a career in medicine to anyone anymore unless you don't mind being physically and mentally exhausted all the time everyday.
@Happy Dog I have been in surgery since 1987. The push for faster case starts. They think if we can push the people hard enough maybe each room can fit one more case and make money for the hospital. I moved to night shift in 2005 as charge so I am out of most of the fray but it still makes it down my way. I just purchased my retirement home with what money I had inherited so at least I will not have a mortgage. I'm 58 but plan to be out no later than 60. 59 1/2 if I can swing it. I am moving from Cali to PA near my family and will probably work part time to cover health benefits.
@Happy Dog that's great. I am also a veteran but only did 4 years in the Air Force. Thank you for your service.
In the old days a Doctor could look at you and tell you the problem Today's doctors lack general practice knowledge too Theyre just not that good anymore
I'm retiring in March and I can't be happier. Nurses wear themselves out physically and mentally and no one gives a crap. During Covid we were "Healthcare Heroes". Now we are back to being just another expence for corporate healthcare. For years I have been verbally and emotionally abused by surgeons. We are told by management to just "write them up". We've written until our fingers are raw and the surgeons continue to escape disciplinary action because they bring in patients who in turn pay money. In the end money always wins!! Goodbye healthcare and good riddance!!
Writing them up just gives management a record of who is a trouble maker so they can make their lives more difficult in the hopes that the nurse will quit.
I agree with you 100%. They will always favor the physician, no matter how abusive. It's sick.
This situation is so demoralizing. I enjoyed my job, loved my patients. I miss what it used to be. 😢
I went to nursing school then became PA and was in military and retired early and never wanted to go back in medicine and this right before pandemic and I was a pandemic specialist among other things while in military working in infectious disease around world. I have spoke with so many doctors and nurses since the pandemic and how horrible things are. The good ones and mostly older or more experienced doctors and nurses retired and left profession early. There are so many new doctors 🙄 whom I wouldn't want help from and so arrogant and don't listen and just plain wrong and won't listen and instead send you home without knowing what's really going on . I feel for the very small few nurses who are both good and caring individuals who can't do job as they should or want. We avoid doctors and hospitals at all costs now and rather treat at home but only go if absolutely need prescription. Wait times are insane (I waited 14 hrs in er hallway with son one night before seen and spent all of 5 mins with him ) we keep medical equipment for stitches or other things that can do. My father in law fell and ambulance said min wait 4 hrs before could get out to check. The whole system is broken.
Nurses are often the ones risking their lives and careers to save patients' lives from the "care" of ignorant, arrogant young clueless doctors. I've seen it and I respect them.
Yikes, "pandemic specialist"..I'd not be able to do that one, knowing that eyeVrMk10 cures and the cure was hidden, withheld and demonized :( Yes, all the rest what you said.....we're in trouble. As...planned[emic]. I'll hold off on how I know this from both a patient and nurse perspective.
I have done my research and the deaths and severe side effects is beyond words
Nurses you are the heroes. You want to stand up for what is right. You want to honor your oath, First do No Harm. Thank you. Wish more doctors would stand up.
They can be the heroes if they want. Same with doctors. Same with media. Same with lawyers. Everyone. But it seems many are just routinely following orders and instructions having lost the ability to question anything in life. Then it gets to the point where saying anything at all that questions the narrative is condemned. Livelihoods, legal repercussions, good societal standing are placed at the expense of human lives without a second thought. What is perhaps the most difficult is admitting to oneself that just maybe something is wrong..maybe something is off.. maybe we were mistaken and mislead. That's the worst part. Nobody likes to sit with remorse or guilt especially when thinking it was meant to be good for everyone. We hang onto pre-conceived beliefs until the very end, clinging onto every tiny little word that strengthens that belief system even more. Absolutely anything to avoid confronting the self belief system programmed over generations.
Sad to witness this in real time
@@vallivergano239 I left bedside nursing after 20 years. I worked in Pediatric ICU, Med/Surg, Oncology, Float, Travel, PCU/ICU just trying to find the "right" place to do the job I wanted to do. I've gotten written up for making a protein chocolate ice cream shake for a teenager that didn't like the taste of the hospital food and they were just trying to get calories and protein in him. I got wrote up for not asking the kitchen to open at 3am because a patient wanted to order and have her breakfast at that time of the night. I've gotten written up for not providing a patient (that should have gone home from day surgery) Fentanyl, but what they didn't take into consideration was my charting that she was desaturating, needed to be placed on oxygen during the night because she was so borked out from the anesthesia, pain medications I was giving her along with the sleeping pill she just had to have. Nursing isn't about quality or SAFE patient care anymore, it's about how much money can the CEO take home every year, how much money the managers get as bonuses.
Doctors are drug dealers with a degree.
@@anastasiawolfeheart468 gotta love how those patient satisfaction scores dictate patient treatment.
Yeah right! Nurses worries about losing their license. No matter what they witness, they keep shut and mind their business..
The worst thing about nursing is how people keep wanting to gaslight you into believing that it's "not about money, a good nurse should love her job". But it IS about the f*** money. What the hell man, how am I supposed to pay my ever growing rent? With the love of my patients? Also, with a job that takes so long to get a valuable degree in, I might as well want to belong to a group that can pay for vacation in summer without having to work full time, all shifts on all days of the year. Gosh I am so happy to have left this job. I am now attending medical school and basically within a decade I will probably work at the same spot again, only then I will earn double the money, if not more.
When I graduated nursing school in 2003, the instructors literally told us that when we were applying for jobs we should not ask what we would be paid because we were just supposed to love being a nurse so much that the money doesn’t matter. As a single mom I found that advise to be impractical.
see thats all you care about. the money is your priority, thats why healthcare in the US is shit. the wrong type of people entered the field.
Hospital administration is out to make the bucks, they don’t care about giving 10 patients to 1 nurse. This happened to me in Detroit. I quit !
A few years ago a family member of mine used to complain about the bed side manner of the medical field. This was before 2020. I told her that it's makes sense that their is a complaint. Because when you're young if you're smart, ambitious, or want to make a decently salary people encourage you to go in to the medical field. They say stuff like, you're going to make good money, or you'll always be secured a job. People don't seek out, good, kind, caring, healing, philanthropic youth and tell them to go into the medical field because of their personality or their ability to heal or care for things. So in turn you have lots of people in medical just for money, or a secure career, or the title.
as a medical student, I can attest to this!!! I get shell-shocked when I meet compassionate residents/attendings and it shouldn't be that way.
🌿These nurses seem genuinely concerned in caring for patients, but taking a step back to revaluating their own healthy mentally. Nice reporting. Will share. 👑GOD BLESS those who receive it🌿
I’m leaving also and becoming a nurse coach. Been a RN for 25 years. We need to challenge people to have more personal responsibility about their health and I want to help people get there.
Dental assisting is also a horrible profession. I understand it requires less academic preparation than nursing but DAs are also overworked and very much underpaid. Doctors and managers really abuse their power and play psychological games to try and squeeze the most out of their employees.
I am a home health nurse and since COVID started, I noticed that the poor and elderly patients are being neglected by the healthcare field. Paramedics trying to talk poor elderly patients out of going to the hospital. Even after being evaluated by the nurse and getting orders from mds. Literally went ahead to head with a paramedic about a patient that lived in a house that was more like a shed and had classic signs and symptoms of being septic. The paramedic was bullying my patient telling him "didn't I just take you to the ER 2 days ago? Who says you need to go to the ER?" My poor patient responded " well my nurse said I need to go" the paramedic then turned to me with disgust and I told him Dr so and so gave orders. Then the paramedic then said " well syou will be waiting there for a long time" after they loaded my patient up. I pulled him to the side and let him know it isn't his place to try to talk my patient out of seeking the care he needed. The patient was transfered to another hospital with sepsis and passed away a couple of days after that. Broke my freaking heart. I have so many stories like this I could tell. And to be honest was really debating leaving the healthcare field because it has gone to crap. It's not about caring for people anymore. No matter who they are or how much money they have. Basically the poor and elderly are pushed to the side. It's a shame and once my youngest son (16) graduates and goes to college or whatever he wants to do, I will definitely walk away from a career I once loved. 😢
Thank you for caring, we need more people like
I respect paramedics. But..... and I say BUT, they can become jaded and know-it-alls at times. You have to be cautious and when in doubt, send them out.
I quit bedside nursing in 2016. I worked mainly in SICU. The last few years I was in management at a nursing home. It was all about money, how much could we pile on the nurses and CNAs. I was told I care too much, literally. I miss my sweet residents, seeing their smiling faces every morning. Im sure many of them are no longer here sadly.
When I left I didnt work for awhile and then went back to school for ARNP. Completed the program but have not taken the test.
I’ve had several friends who left nursing Because the gossip and back stabbing was more than they could take. So many egos and down right ruthless people working in hospitals and the ruthless ones drive out of the good ones. It is shocking how vicious doctors and nurses can be - and these are the people we are trusting with our health. Vicious backstabbing abusive people on ego trips. Not sure what happens to them that makes them that way and so many have to leave Because one can only take so much abuse
I’m not surprised! I think a lot of people forget how many people go into this field just for the money and prestige! It’s wonderful to think that everyone’s there because they love to help people and save lives but that’s just not the case.
95 percent of nurses and doctors are in it solely for the money.
I was a nurse for over twenty years , in a small hospital nursing home combination facility with a clinic and an emergency room . I had usually forty residents in the nursing home , and up to fifteen or more in the hospital , plus had to work the emergency room , and got called to the clinic for special tasks too like vaccinations etc . This was every single day I worked this was every single shift I worked sometimes more than twelve hours shifts and more than full time hours in a week . I also have a developmentally disabled son who I raised and a normal daughter , and had a step daughter too . There were three nurses on shift and generally four nursing aides per shift too . For over fifty people plus any who walked in needing help . There were even a few times that I worked as the one and only nurse on duty and had only one aide . For the same amount of patients . We also got all the work done there was no leaving anything un done no matter how little help we had or how much work there was to do .This is the day today real reality of working in a small rural hospital . We had every kind of patient any hospital has , heart attacks , car wrecks , sick patients , domestic abuse cases , we had it all and we had to deal with it . Plus we were also responsible for taking inventory of supplies and restocking them ourselves , and running the autoclave to sterilize things ourselves . There were no special people for these tasks. There was much more too . But seven patients sounds kind of nice to me !
Back whenI was in nursing school, I had a nursing instructor screaming at me beacause she said my hair style scared the patients. I should of left then.
I worked as a cna then cma in nursing homes and the expectations were so overwhelming I started having anxiety attacks and had a nervous breakdown. I loved the residents but not "the higher ups". They made it unbearable. $ is what drives them at the expense of others well being.