I rented at Wilson from Bike N Bean years ago in the slop, took it down Whistler DH. Came back in after one run and said, 'Ill take it'. Was on a Demo 7ii at the time. For sure, DH bikes at Bike Parks with elevation are a game changer.
DH no question for Whistler Bike Park. I say this as a dude with a couple hundred days in the park. Really skilled guys can go faster on trail/enduro bikes on most trails but it beats up your body and the bike so much faster. For up to advanced skilled riders, they will go faster on the double black tech and black/double black jump lines on DH bikes... Especially Garbo zone tech, you need serious skills to ride it fast on a trail bike.
I think it also depends a lot on your background. I have ridden BMX all my life. I rode Whistler a long time ago on a rigid bike and the fact I had 26 inch wheels instead of 20 inch wheels is what made me able to ride better on a mountain bike. So for someone like myself I think my current Full Suspension mountain bike with 140mm up front and 130mm in rear would be luxury on the trails at Whistler! A downhill bike with a super slack head angle would probably annoy the crap out of me!
@@moandhannahtravel I have a Giro Switchblade that is DH certified and you can remove the chin guard for trail riding. I did buy it after knocking a tooth out on a big get off, so I was late to the scene. But hey the rest of my teeth are happy I have a full face helmet now. They are a stack of coins at $250.00 a pop, but I found mine on Amazon for $180.00
Great riding! I had the same giggly reaction when riding my first FS trail bike (coming from a cheap HT), can't wait to try a proper DH beast. One suggestion though-Mo should consider getting a FF helmet and some pads, I get a bit uneasy watching you shred whistler with no protection.
You don't need a DH bike, But you want one! I have a Giant reign and a Glory. Id rather ride the gnarly steeps Like ride don't slide, Original Sin, Goats gully on the Dh rig. Sure they may seem slow to steer and don't really pedal but you body will thank you the next day. They are just more forgiving and plush when you need it. I feel like if your an aggressive rider and want to progress get a full Dh rig.
I rented a DH bike at Windrock. It really helped to enjoy the shear gnar...ness? of that park better. Having not been to whistler I can't say...I suppose all parks are just a little different but if I had to choose a bike for park use(and if I rode park a whole LOT) I'd lean more toward full DH...I think? LOL!!
As a guy who's never ridden a true DH bike (though always had at least 170mm) I have always wondered this question of how different really is it. Now I know.
I rode my enduro there and had no problem at. Could not take the huge lines but made it more challenging. But I have ridden dh bikes forever. But with todays suspension you can ride a enduro style bike at dh parks no,problem.
From the second you started it sounded from your enthusiasm that the dh bike was the ticket. Was a little surprised at your end results that you were on the fence on which to choose..Great video by the way..
when I went to whistler I rented a downhill bike and I was my rest time on a downhill bike, I think I took some sloppy lines where as if I was in my enduro bike I would have ridden more carefully.
Think about how crazy you'd get if you rode a DH bike at whistler everyday thou lol. My trail bike handles the parks fine but my DH bike allows you to focus on the stuff you came to ride at speed. I like both for different reasons but I'll pretty much only ride my DH bike at the park or shuttle days so I'm stoked when I get to ride it lol. It's like the ferrari you take out every once in a while ;)
don’t know if you’ve checked them out yet but definitely try Crank It Up and A Line, those are the more popular flow trails up there and A Line has some technical sections near the end.
Great video,as always guys! I have downhill bike for Bikepark days so I wreck my trail bike and coz you just go flat out everywhere!They are so forgiving but after I come back from Morzine this year I’m selling both my bikes for a “do it all bike” A Whyte G170 YT Capra or Canyon Torque These bike are the best of both worlds! You can skip and Dick them around but they also have enough travel to stop you having your teeth rattled out of your head! Thanks for the great videos
Don't do it man! You'll regret it because it'll never be as good as you want downhill and it'll climb like a dog... I sold both mine and bought a 170mm uber enduro but in the end I just hated the feeling of compromise. An aggressive 130ish trail bike and full dh bike will almost always feel better unless you are regularly riding EWS level trails at pace.
A trail bike in WBP would probably fall apparatus after 10-12 days of riding ... they just won’t hold up after a while. The DH bike ramps up the fun factor. But if you’re gonna ride stuff outside the park then Trail bike the way to go .. heck, get a “enduro” bike with1 150-160 and you’re set
I think the best option for me is a do it all bike, enough travel to do it all, but if I would absolutely have to have a Dh bike it would be Nicolai G19 cus of the geometry, still shorter reach than their trail & enduro bikes, but that could be made custom anyway, or sizing up, so a downhill, climbing bike could be a reality, then I could put a dropper post, and usual trail riding gear setup. but it's overkill for what I currently ride. But so far I am Leaning Towards Nicolai Saturn 14 & G1 but the Knolly Fugitive is interesting, but I haven't looked at it much, forgot some of the specs and features.
DH bikes when riding bike parks with lifts for sure. It just maximizes the amount of fun you can get in a bike park. But other than that, trail bikes for me.
Honestly.,.... I wish I could buy a DH bike.... I just cannot justify it........ Mo, as you well know.... where I live.... there are many trails and dh lines that require a lot of climbing.... Plus Big Bear...Snow Summit you can smash it there with a trail bike, ENDURO bike!!
Sure downhill bike feels way easier when you go same speed as with trail bike. But its made to go to ludicrous speed and then its also not that soft anymore.
Do you need one? Nah, but who doesnt want a different bike for every occasion 😁. I used my enduro at Whister and it was great. Next time I'd like to try a DH bike 👍👍
@@moandhannahtravel Since you guys are going to be there for a bit, if you get a chance "steal" VanCan's Capra. It's not as plush as the Tues, but it's more nimble while still a lot more forgiving than a trail bike.
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Downhill bikes are great for downhill biking.
thank you sherlock
Really I never would have guessed. I downhill bikes were for flying in clouds
Mo: *acts like a 4 year old having fun on a dh bike*
Also Mo: I don't know which one I would choose
I said the same thing when I was 8 years old, and that was about 40 years ago... but back in the day, we called them "Freeride" instead of Enduro.
I rented at Wilson from Bike N Bean years ago in the slop, took it down Whistler DH. Came back in after one run and said, 'Ill take it'. Was on a Demo 7ii at the time. For sure, DH bikes at Bike Parks with elevation are a game changer.
DH no question for Whistler Bike Park. I say this as a dude with a couple hundred days in the park. Really skilled guys can go faster on trail/enduro bikes on most trails but it beats up your body and the bike so much faster.
For up to advanced skilled riders, they will go faster on the double black tech and black/double black jump lines on DH bikes... Especially Garbo zone tech, you need serious skills to ride it fast on a trail bike.
So true!!! We are stoked to check it out when it opens!!!
And good knees.
I think it also depends a lot on your background. I have ridden BMX all my life. I rode Whistler a long time ago on a rigid bike and the fact I had 26 inch wheels instead of 20 inch wheels is what made me able to ride better on a mountain bike.
So for someone like myself I think my current Full Suspension mountain bike with 140mm up front and 130mm in rear would be luxury on the trails at Whistler! A downhill bike with a super slack head angle would probably annoy the crap out of me!
id wear a full face your teeth wil thank you
Yeah I need to buy one soon!
@@moandhannahtravel I have a Giro Switchblade that is DH certified and you can remove the chin guard for trail riding. I did buy it after knocking a tooth out on a big get off, so I was late to the scene. But hey the rest of my teeth are happy I have a full face helmet now. They are a stack of coins at $250.00 a pop, but I found mine on Amazon for $180.00
Great riding! I had the same giggly reaction when riding my first FS trail bike (coming from a cheap HT), can't wait to try a proper DH beast.
One suggestion though-Mo should consider getting a FF helmet and some pads, I get a bit uneasy watching you shred whistler with no protection.
He’s thinking about it for sure!!!
You don't need a DH bike, But you want one! I have a Giant reign and a Glory. Id rather ride the gnarly steeps Like ride don't slide, Original Sin, Goats gully on the Dh rig. Sure they may seem slow to steer and don't really pedal but you body will thank you the next day. They are just more forgiving and plush when you need it. I feel like if your an aggressive rider and want to progress get a full Dh rig.
So true!!!
Grat vid bro...I love my Tues with all my heart!!!
🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
I rented a DH bike at Windrock. It really helped to enjoy the shear gnar...ness? of that park better. Having not been to whistler I can't say...I suppose all parks are just a little different but if I had to choose a bike for park use(and if I rode park a whole LOT) I'd lean more toward full DH...I think? LOL!!
So rad and windorck sounds so cool!!
As a guy who's never ridden a true DH bike (though always had at least 170mm) I have always wondered this question of how different really is it. Now I know.
Hahaha its all fun for sure!!
I rode my enduro there and had no problem at. Could not take the huge lines but made it more challenging. But I have ridden dh bikes forever. But with todays suspension you can ride a enduro style bike at dh parks no,problem.
From the second you started it sounded from your enthusiasm that the dh bike was the ticket. Was a little surprised at your end results that you were on the fence on which to choose..Great video by the way..
Dont get it wrong we love it but we just love our enduro bikes a little more!
when I went to whistler I rented a downhill bike and I was my rest time on a downhill bike, I think I took some sloppy lines where as if I was in my enduro bike I would have ridden more carefully.
*some really big drops are done and seem very doable on a downhill bike*
So true!!!
Now I want a sticker that says “I want more hucks”.
Haha!!
Think about how crazy you'd get if you rode a DH bike at whistler everyday thou lol. My trail bike handles the parks fine but my DH bike allows you to focus on the stuff you came to ride at speed. I like both for different reasons but I'll pretty much only ride my DH bike at the park or shuttle days so I'm stoked when I get to ride it lol. It's like the ferrari you take out every once in a while ;)
don’t know if you’ve checked them out yet but definitely try Crank It Up and A Line, those are the more popular flow trails up there and A Line has some technical sections near the end.
Dh bikes are awesome. Definitely help with the fatigue near the end of the day!
So true!!!
That's why i have the Rallon and the Cube Two 15.
So rad!!!!
Yt tues, my dad has it and it’s sick for everything!!!🤘🏻🤙🏻
Trail bikes are great for all that climbing you don't have to do at the bike park.
YT is the Porsche of Bikes. German Engineering at it's best.
why not full face?....no brainer DH bike on lift access trail bike only when you need to climb
Got a crazy idea if we put 200mm fork and shock on enduro
🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
I put an eagle on a glory. Better. Downduro.
Great fun as always, there is always room for one more bike.
Great video,as always guys!
I have downhill bike for Bikepark days so I wreck my trail bike and coz you just go flat out everywhere!They are so forgiving but after I come back from Morzine this year
I’m selling both my bikes for a “do it all bike” A Whyte G170
YT Capra or Canyon Torque
These bike are the best of both worlds! You can skip and Dick them around but they also have enough travel to stop you having your teeth rattled out of your head!
Thanks for the great videos
That’s so awesome and thank you!!!!!
Don't do it man! You'll regret it because it'll never be as good as you want downhill and it'll climb like a dog... I sold both mine and bought a 170mm uber enduro but in the end I just hated the feeling of compromise. An aggressive 130ish trail bike and full dh bike will almost always feel better unless you are regularly riding EWS level trails at pace.
You guys should get a dh-bike each.. I have one dh, one trail and one hardtail e-bike.. you have to have them all 👍🏻😎
That would be the dream!!!
Nice comparison, never tried a true DH rig. Not that much call for it here in the UK if you don't live near a bike park. Looks awesome though.
So much fun!!!
Nice job Mo. Im going to have to demo one @ Outerbike next week.
🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾 you’ll love it!
DH bikes are such beasts, I haven't gotten in tune with em yet in my limited 3 days experience in 1 year (rentals)
Trail bike at Whistler!! I'd throw my tricked out Fluid HT down some of those runs.
A trail bike in WBP would probably fall apparatus after 10-12 days of riding ... they just won’t hold up after a while. The DH bike ramps up the fun factor. But if you’re gonna ride stuff outside the park then Trail bike the way to go .. heck, get a “enduro” bike with1 150-160 and you’re set
Sweet video. DH= pure speed, trail bike = more versatile fun. Just my $.02. Keep up with the awesome content.
So true!!
I think the best option for me is a do it all bike, enough travel to do it all, but if I would absolutely have to have a Dh bike it would be Nicolai G19 cus of the geometry, still shorter reach than their trail & enduro bikes, but that could be made custom anyway, or sizing up, so a downhill, climbing bike could be a reality, then I could put a dropper post, and usual trail riding gear setup.
but it's overkill for what I currently ride.
But so far I am Leaning Towards Nicolai Saturn 14 & G1
but the Knolly Fugitive is interesting, but I haven't looked at it much, forgot some of the specs and features.
Great Vid,
Have you thought of riding Lord of the Sqirrels ?
Love that trail!!
DH bikes when riding bike parks with lifts for sure. It just maximizes the amount of fun you can get in a bike park. But other than that, trail bikes for me.
So true!!!!
I mean this is fucking obvious right....
Was it a 27 or 29er?
WHAT IS THE FRAME SIZE
So did you wear a half shell or full face? And what would be safer? 🤷🏻♂️
You could compromise with a 160/170mm travel enduro. That’s what I have, and I have plenty of confidence, plus is still fun.
rascal1234 yea be downhill bikes aren’t fun.....
if i lived closer to down hill i would get one in a heart beat.
So true!!
Meanwhile I’m just trying to figure out what I can ride on my rigid plus bike lol
Hahahahaha!!!
hahahah! " I am not even picking a line"
Hahahahaha!!!
Honestly.,.... I wish I could buy a DH bike.... I just cannot justify it........ Mo, as you well know.... where I live.... there are many trails and dh lines that require a lot of climbing.... Plus Big Bear...Snow Summit you can smash it there with a trail bike, ENDURO bike!!
So true Ron!!!!
I don't know why so much people ride single crown enduro bikes at Whistler. A DH bike is the way to go.
Yeah the dh was fun for sure!
i want have bike like yours but i am a poor man... can you give me a maybe bike like polygon dh or trek
🇺🇸 Thanks for researching this topic, I been thinking 🤔 about buying a downhill bike👍🇺🇸
Why is the quality only 330p?
Because you are too fast!!
watching video to early
Nope but it doesnt hurt Phill didn't need one lol rad video!
Hahahahahah yewwww!!!!
Sure downhill bike feels way easier when you go same speed as with trail bike. But its made to go to ludicrous speed and then its also not that soft anymore.
Remy Burns Whistler - come for the big air, stay for the rock garden smashing at speed
Awesome video1!!
@@moandhannahtravel makes me wonder - if you ride a DH bike as hard as Remy, does it start to feel like a trail bike?? haha - thx for the vids!
Do you need one? Nah, but who doesnt want a different bike for every occasion 😁. I used my enduro at Whister and it was great. Next time I'd like to try a DH bike 👍👍
AZDirtLife I agree! 🙌 I’m still waiting for my turn to try out a DH bike! -Hannah
Too-ez not Tues-day
Good to know!!
😂
The manufactory is in Germany. So i think the real meaning for the downhill bike is the german word "Tu es". In englisch it's meaning "Do it"
put a mtn biker with really good skills on a DH bike.... like sweet buttah fun !
Hahaha yewww!!!!!!
Ride an long travel Enduro 29er. Best of both worlds!
just in time.
Great video, as always. I appreciate how hard y'all work putting out 3 videos a week! Does anyone else in MTB do that? Yew!!
Thanks so much!!!
Mo also needs a full face and gloves
😂
Too-ezz
Yewww!!!!!
I do same thing on my Capra 29! YT rules
The YT Tues is actually pronounced TU-EZ.
Good to know!!
@@moandhannahtravel its german, tu es - means do it : )
YT Tues… Not pronounced like the abbreviated Tuesday, but rather Too-es (the s is pronounced like z). It means “do it” in German
Good to know!!
@@moandhannahtravel Since you guys are going to be there for a bit, if you get a chance "steal" VanCan's Capra. It's not as plush as the Tues, but it's more nimble while still a lot more forgiving than a trail bike.
Dh bikes are great for bike parks and shuttle runs but suck at everything else . Thats why i have a dh bike and a hardtail for trails .
Alternate title: why u should buy a dh bike
....with that being said...
Low waste, vegan, shredders 🤘🏽 Hell Yeah!!!!
Yewwww!!!!!!
N+1
Too tue!!!
If you dont want to Feel so rooty, use a trail bike
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almost though you actually stole the bike.......
Your perm is very impressive! Are you gay?