While I do think Gigi's is not a bad choice I don't think it's the best. I think Krieo's animatic is a way better choice especially for a first time listen.
I remember the livestream for this one - it was before any animatics had been made/commissioned so we only had lyrics, so there were fewer clues about the whole siren thing during Suffering. Consequently, this song starting with the caption "Odysseus shoots Penelope" was a real 'wait, what?!' moment!
Love the “about 12 years or so” as that is a call back to mistake in the Circe saga, when Ody says that it has been 12 long years since he’d seen his wife. The problem being that at the time it has only been 10 years and this is Jay calling out himself.
Welllllllll...... the fans were wrong that it's 10 years (it's definitely NOT) and he was wrong to say 12, only he COULD be correct due to his changes to Circe. Kinda bugs me that people abuse him and he's been gaslit into thinking he was wrong. It's his story, after all. The Odyssey never gives much in terms of a timeline, other than [SPOILERS AHEAD, I TRIED TO MINIMIZE THE HINTS] Troy fell after 10 years and "a certain island goddess" took 7 years, and he makes it home after 20 years. Meaning the Thunder Saga is supposed to end in Year 13, since that's when Calypso traps him. They were supposed to go pirating around the Mediterranean (cut from the musical) and spend a lot longer with the Lotus Eaters, and then there's the time spent with Circe that was cut out (thank the gods). Meaning we have a LOT of missing time that Jay can play around with. I saw some program many, many years ago that estimated realistic time of travel to the traditional locations of each monster (Lotus Eaters in North Africa, Polyphemus in Sicily, etc.) using a replica ship, how many men were on that ship, and taking into account all the pillaging they did to restock supplies. Although The Odyssey only tells about one pillaging, the Greeks loved to write fanfics about Ody pillaging around Italy after the war (including a story about Polites not being so polite). It was pretty awesome that people still sail the course of Odysseus 3000 years later. Bucket list! They calculated it would realistically take a year to reach the cave of Polyphemus. Then sailing back to Greece, almost to Ithaca, only to be blown to the giants.... kinda hard to know just how long a godly storm to blow them that far away would've taken. I'm just saying, according to the canon mythology and estimations based on realistic scenarios, Jorge should have said to Circe "it's been 11 long years" but since he cut out staying with Circe, Jay could be CORRECT with 12 years. Then this song really should be "13 years or so" unless there's a timeskip between now and "THUNDER BOOMBOOM," which must happen in Year 13 to fit the canon intro of Calypso.
You’re so right about Ximena’s Odysseus - he’s very blessed, physically, and we all get to enjoy it haha (Sometimes my comments are insightful - and sometimes they are just this)
I would assume you guys have already reacted to Scylla at this point but if somehow you haven't allow me to put my hat in the ring with a recommendation I haven't seen from anyone else. Krieo's Scylla animatic is by far the best one to watch as a first time listener, they do an excellent job of showing exactly what is going on in the song and it does an amazing job of making the songs meaning clear. While very other animatic I've seen recommended are worth watching I think each of them have at least some issue that makes them not optimal for a first time watcher.
Welcome to the Thunder Saga, this is where the second act really picks up. Ody is a beast here. That final chorus "he is a different beast now" instead of "we are a different beast now" hits so freaking hard
Ody has fully committed to being the monster. Though I will say, he didn’t have to drown the sirens. That’s a bit brutal there, my guy. He could have just done it quick and got it over with but he went with an extra layer of cruel. I get it, they’re sirens but… bro. You don’t have to go that hard. Also just feels like more work. Also in the animatic, you can see a couple of the sirens holding hands when they’re thrown back in the water and… it makes me feel a little bad. Which is the point, this song is designed to feel like a bit of a role reversal on who’s the monster but still.
One thing I think the animatic gets wrong, is the odysseus dosent kill all the sirens, and I dont even think he kills the Penelope siren, he just kills the one he capture in the nets and the kills them brutally to warn all the other sirens in the water to leave them alone
@BGTitanAvatar the problem with that, it's gets contradicted in the next saga, and in the Canon live stream, it doesn't get specified how many he kills, though you could be right
People here already recommended “Scylla” animatics, so I’ll recommend animatics for the songs afterward. For “Mutiny”, I recommend Riley G’s animatic. For “Thunder Bringer”, I recommend Neal Illustrator.
Neal's is a "must watch" for Thunderbringer and God Games, but I don't think it's best for a first watch of Thunderbringer b/c the ending leaves a LOT of reactors confused going into the next saga.
@@KaulitzWolfI agree! When I made the Thunder Saga playlist to show my husband it was so hard not to add Neal's Thunderbringer because it is incredible but I wanted something more cannon. I just told him after, "Okay, now go watch Neal Illustrator's version because it's awesome!
I see people here recommending animatics for this saga, Anniflama recently dropped her Thunder Bringer one and it's very good! It quickly became my favorite for that song. For Scylla, Gigi's is amazing
I definitely agree because I want people to see the animatic for Anniflamma’s Thunder bringer since a lot of people already reacted to Neal Illustrator version It will be nice to recommend some other version for a change.
This is the first time Odysseus isn't fighting out of self-defense. The sirens were never a threat to him. He found out they existed in this part of the sea and has gone out of his way to hunt, use, and kill them
This one also can do. It’s also pretty canon. This or Anniflamma, but I want force to watch the version that I like. I know people recommend Neal Illustrator but it’s not Karen enough for the first listening to the song.
I definitely suggest gigis scylla, and either aniflamas thunder bringer or neal illustrators cause both of those versions of thunder bringer are amazing
Oh I 100% think they ate the siren tails, especially with the "we are the ones who feast now" line (and them being low on food had been an issue before). And I mean, as long as it's just the fishy parts it's not cannibalism right? Right?? o.o
I'm sure you've already recorded the rest of thunder saga - so here's my recommendations for wisdom saga: Duvetbox for Legendary and Little Wolf gigi for We'll be Fine BrittPowwPixel for Love in Paradise you can't go wrong in god games, honestly - so many good ones. but NealIllustrator and AnniFlamma are probably the top two for me
I say you need to listen to Jesse Howard the boy and the Preacher Man I would like to see you react to it, it make you sad it based on a true story and you would love it i just subscribe to your Channel I would like shout out. I just started watching your channel 😅
"If he’s not careful he's gonna end up sailing home on a river of blood."
DJ! WHAT A LINE!
They are not ready for ANY SONG that comes after.
i've listened to them all already and im still not ready for the songs that come after. lol
10:31 The pause here is so funny. "we blocked our ears with bees"
Buckle your seatbelts and tighten them hard for the next song. That’s all I’m gonna say- and make sure you go to the bathroom first… fair warning
Real
Deep down...
Ximena giving Ody one eye when he's being a monster is just such amazing symbolism with the cyclops being the monster that started him down that path.
Really have to recomend Gigi's animation for Scylla. Everything about it is amazing.
Agreed
While I do think Gigi's is not a bad choice I don't think it's the best. I think Krieo's animatic is a way better choice especially for a first time listen.
We've had enough and we're not taking it......*giggles in Odysseus*
I remember the livestream for this one - it was before any animatics had been made/commissioned so we only had lyrics, so there were fewer clues about the whole siren thing during Suffering.
Consequently, this song starting with the caption "Odysseus shoots Penelope" was a real 'wait, what?!' moment!
Love the “about 12 years or so” as that is a call back to mistake in the Circe saga, when Ody says that it has been 12 long years since he’d seen his wife. The problem being that at the time it has only been 10 years and this is Jay calling out himself.
Welllllllll...... the fans were wrong that it's 10 years (it's definitely NOT) and he was wrong to say 12, only he COULD be correct due to his changes to Circe. Kinda bugs me that people abuse him and he's been gaslit into thinking he was wrong. It's his story, after all.
The Odyssey never gives much in terms of a timeline, other than [SPOILERS AHEAD, I TRIED TO MINIMIZE THE HINTS] Troy fell after 10 years and "a certain island goddess" took 7 years, and he makes it home after 20 years. Meaning the Thunder Saga is supposed to end in Year 13, since that's when Calypso traps him. They were supposed to go pirating around the Mediterranean (cut from the musical) and spend a lot longer with the Lotus Eaters, and then there's the time spent with Circe that was cut out (thank the gods). Meaning we have a LOT of missing time that Jay can play around with.
I saw some program many, many years ago that estimated realistic time of travel to the traditional locations of each monster (Lotus Eaters in North Africa, Polyphemus in Sicily, etc.) using a replica ship, how many men were on that ship, and taking into account all the pillaging they did to restock supplies. Although The Odyssey only tells about one pillaging, the Greeks loved to write fanfics about Ody pillaging around Italy after the war (including a story about Polites not being so polite). It was pretty awesome that people still sail the course of Odysseus 3000 years later. Bucket list!
They calculated it would realistically take a year to reach the cave of Polyphemus. Then sailing back to Greece, almost to Ithaca, only to be blown to the giants.... kinda hard to know just how long a godly storm to blow them that far away would've taken.
I'm just saying, according to the canon mythology and estimations based on realistic scenarios, Jorge should have said to Circe "it's been 11 long years" but since he cut out staying with Circe, Jay could be CORRECT with 12 years. Then this song really should be "13 years or so" unless there's a timeskip between now and "THUNDER BOOMBOOM," which must happen in Year 13 to fit the canon intro of Calypso.
the fight song to end all fight songs... waiting for them to reach the vengence and ithica saga haha
I recommend remembering the theme for Different Beast very well, you'll notice it at a pivotal moment in a future saga
In 2 important parts in the future
And one of those themes is also a call back to the ending of Remember Them!
They are feasting now because the siren tails are teeeechnically not cannibalism.
You’re so right about Ximena’s Odysseus - he’s very blessed, physically, and we all get to enjoy it haha
(Sometimes my comments are insightful - and sometimes they are just this)
No but this IS very insightful 😌
I would assume you guys have already reacted to Scylla at this point but if somehow you haven't allow me to put my hat in the ring with a recommendation I haven't seen from anyone else.
Krieo's Scylla animatic is by far the best one to watch as a first time listener, they do an excellent job of showing exactly what is going on in the song and it does an amazing job of making the songs meaning clear.
While very other animatic I've seen recommended are worth watching I think each of them have at least some issue that makes them not optimal for a first time watcher.
Heartily seconded on all points.
Welcome to the Thunder Saga, this is where the second act really picks up. Ody is a beast here. That final chorus "he is a different beast now" instead of "we are a different beast now" hits so freaking hard
the last chorus where they switch from we to he always makes me think of like little kids talking about how cool their dad is
What a SONG! Damn!
Thank you Panda for joining DJ again.
Thank you for this reaction DJ, this was awesome... #HerdLove
14:18 the Chorus is about to become “he is a man made monster”.
Ody has fully committed to being the monster. Though I will say, he didn’t have to drown the sirens. That’s a bit brutal there, my guy. He could have just done it quick and got it over with but he went with an extra layer of cruel. I get it, they’re sirens but… bro. You don’t have to go that hard. Also just feels like more work.
Also in the animatic, you can see a couple of the sirens holding hands when they’re thrown back in the water and… it makes me feel a little bad. Which is the point, this song is designed to feel like a bit of a role reversal on who’s the monster but still.
One thing I think the animatic gets wrong, is the odysseus dosent kill all the sirens, and I dont even think he kills the Penelope siren, he just kills the one he capture in the nets and the kills them brutally to warn all the other sirens in the water to leave them alone
@connorlong5320 Considering he sings “kill them all” …. I think he killed them all.
@@BGTitanAvatar I doubt he caught every siren that was there, but he definitely killed all the ones he caught
@felixsonofscouty Yeah.
@BGTitanAvatar the problem with that, it's gets contradicted in the next saga, and in the Canon live stream, it doesn't get specified how many he kills, though you could be right
probably everyone's already doing it, but i really REALLY reccomend Gigi's animatic for Scylla, its just perfection
I got to say, it's incredibly bold for Odysseus to shoot at something when the last time he shot something he got his men killed. 😂
People here already recommended “Scylla” animatics, so I’ll recommend animatics for the songs afterward.
For “Mutiny”, I recommend Riley G’s animatic.
For “Thunder Bringer”, I recommend Neal Illustrator.
Neal's is a "must watch" for Thunderbringer and God Games, but I don't think it's best for a first watch of Thunderbringer b/c the ending leaves a LOT of reactors confused going into the next saga.
@@KaulitzWolfI agree! When I made the Thunder Saga playlist to show my husband it was so hard not to add Neal's Thunderbringer because it is incredible but I wanted something more cannon. I just told him after, "Okay, now go watch Neal Illustrator's version because it's awesome!
I would like him to react more canon version of this song so Anniflamma’s version will do
I see people here recommending animatics for this saga, Anniflama recently dropped her Thunder Bringer one and it's very good! It quickly became my favorite for that song. For Scylla, Gigi's is amazing
I definitely agree because I want people to see the animatic for Anniflamma’s Thunder bringer since a lot of people already reacted to Neal Illustrator version It will be nice to recommend some other version for a change.
Now that you've seen Ximena's Different Beasts, I can highly recommend their Suffering. Definitely a second listen version, very cute!
This is the first time Odysseus isn't fighting out of self-defense. The sirens were never a threat to him. He found out they existed in this part of the sea and has gone out of his way to hunt, use, and kill them
For "Thunder Bringer" I recommend Duvetbox
This one also can do. It’s also pretty canon. This or Anniflamma, but I want force to watch the version that I like. I know people recommend Neal Illustrator but it’s not Karen enough for the first listening to the song.
Also as soon as he said fight song I recognize the motif from Remember Them.
Well, now they'll be able to eat for however long they'll be sailing until they get to Scylla. Nom nom, fish tails
I definitely suggest gigis scylla, and either aniflamas thunder bringer or neal illustrators cause both of those versions of thunder bringer are amazing
I would like to recommend "Scylla" by VirusAP if you want a different animatoc style and to support a smaller creator
Oh I 100% think they ate the siren tails, especially with the "we are the ones who feast now" line (and them being low on food had been an issue before). And I mean, as long as it's just the fishy parts it's not cannibalism right? Right?? o.o
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Do Ximena's Scylla I beg
Everyone does Gigi y'all should try someone else's!
XN’s is good, but personally gigi’s is more dynamic.
I'm sure you've already recorded the rest of thunder saga - so here's my recommendations for wisdom saga:
Duvetbox for Legendary and Little Wolf
gigi for We'll be Fine
BrittPowwPixel for Love in Paradise
you can't go wrong in god games, honestly - so many good ones. but NealIllustrator and AnniFlamma are probably the top two for me
Just wanted until you get to the final saga the Ithaca saga the song odyssey’s is insane
For Scylla I think you should watch the animatic by Krieo as it’s one of the better ones for a first time watch
Oh, the rest of this saga is a TRIP, so BUCKLE UP!
m.ruclips.net/video/gtKNgFftV5Y/видео.html
Neil’s Thunder bringer is still one of the best out there for me.
For Mutiny I recommend Reilly!
m.ruclips.net/video/aPxjbWbhyPc/видео.html
I say you need to listen to Jesse Howard the boy and the Preacher Man I would like to see you react to it, it make you sad it based on a true story and you would love it i just subscribe to your Channel I would like shout out. I just started watching your channel 😅
I am surprised that you like my comment I hope you do a reacting video of this song Jesse Howard the boy and the Preacher Man @ DJ_410 😊
I definitely recommend Gigi for Scylla
m.ruclips.net/video/aPxjbWbhyPc/видео.html
You keep pausing it right before it’s about to get cool. Please stop doing that. You keep stopping my head bops.