@@majorisker well yeah, he did that because he thought Family Matters was going to be his own personal The Story of Adidon. But, then Kendrick dropped Meet the Grahams and squashed all of his hype.
NBS 😂, this is easily the most attention Hip-Hop has gotten this decade, it’s impossible to go on the internet without seeing people talk about this beef rn.
It’s spawned some great music from other artists too.. Kendrick sent a ripple across the industry that forced Dababy and Lil Tecca to make decent music. Hope the momentum keeps moving.
@@firstlast9846 lil tecca been making good music, people jus forgot about him after WLYT he was supposed to save summer, about 2-3 summers ago, and only dropped one album in 3 years
@@dieforyoubabyyhe literally did misinterpret mother I sober, honestly I feel like he’s never even listened to it lmao just looking up TikToks or something
The whole point of that bar was to antagonize Kendrick, he didn’t misinterpret it, Kendrick’s himself said he wasn’t molested, but no one believed him, so it came off as maybe this is denial? Maybe you did get touched, but you’re in denial, so by him saying that bar it’s intended to reopen those wounds
@@studiousstudent_ I guess from a Drake fan stand point that might be a aha got you moment but from the other side it just looks like Drake just is desperate grabbing at straws
It's hilarious how we are acting like every single girl he been seen with has denied any allegations. When ur actually guilty it woulda came to light by now
Kendrick changing the perception of Cole and Drake entirely because they complemented on First Person Shooter is the pettiest shit ever and why Kendrick is my goat
i wouldn't say j cole tho. people still have respect for him. they are gonna clown him a little but that's done already. j cole is still a respectable talented person. as for drake.. i can't say that
@@snejanaceneva3455Like Shawn said when he apologized tho, they aren’t putting him up in the Big 3 with Kendrick like they did before the disses. Which is why Kendrick called them out in the first place so he could put himself as the only best rapper out rn.
Im not dancing to lyrics about pedophilia im dancing to the downfall of drake. Totally different but I get where youre coming from. Its a fair perspective.
for me I can stomach jokes about painful subjects like that so long as they come at the expense of the abuser not the abused and for me Not Like Us does not feel like its ever confused about who the target of the joke is. Its fair if you feel that joking about these things at all is too trivializing though.
Yeah, I've seen some people online expressing the dismay at the fact that women and teenage/child victims are being used as pawns in this beef between two adult men, and honestly that's pretty fair criticism.
Long story short, Drake sneak dissed Kdot for ten years straight (since Control dropped), without realizing how dirty his hidden catalogue is, then when Kendrick got mad and hit back, he hopped on some "what's this dude on about?" energy. Bro, you poke someone for that long, they will hit back, ESPECIALLY if you're an easy punching bag.
@Kattytatty02 I don't even know what Ak said, but it has to be bad knowing how he acts. Fat man was in tears because he couldn't say slurs on stream, saying something about age of consent sounds just as horrible.
You’re awake. Congrats. This isn’t only about drake. Both “Not Like Us” and “meet the grahams” Kendrick calls out the industry across all entertainment. There’s more predators drake is just the best example of hidden in plain sight.
I think what’s more daunting and chilling about it is he wasn’t hidden in plain sight. He was blatantly flaunting it. He’s so cavalier about his attraction to children but uses his status to obfuscate any responsibility or criticism. Nothing hidden about it.
@@cecemimi101I think he never hid it cause he saw that no one ever really had the thought of it being a serious case. Millie Bobby Brown's case is the best example. She OPENLY revealed, on an interview, they were messaging, that he was really sweet and giving boy advice and the interviewer said "that's amazing". He painted such a good image of him, always clean in public, lightskin, generous, that he created a shield. He probably through he was doing nothing wrong the way people weren't even blinking with these testemonys
he really been pointing at the ovo staff frfr.. his whole angle against drake is discrediting him and exposing his history of lying so it’s easier to feed a narrative to the public
Literally called them clowns in the same bar and the way the beef developed and how Kendrick hinted at hearing his records beforehand it’s just pathetic 😂 really nabbed a Twitter angle and ran with it
@@qeo2374 and even if it was planned why wouldn’t u have the receipts ready to go to discredit K dot? U just let these accusations marinate and spread online? Straight clown fest 😂
If Drake really tricked Kendrick with a fake mole then he would have revealed that right after Meet the Grahams dropped. Drake had about 24 hours to reveal that he planted the fake info before K Dot dropped again, that would have been the best gotcha moment for him and would have made Kendrick look like a fool, which would have given him the W in this beef. But he didn't, instead he was talking to Ak and tmz... Bro is capping and is literally using his twitter and reddit stans theories as his ghost writers to save face.
@@officialconchI think he’s a creep. People made a whole compilation of him hanging around young girls, him kissing a 17 year old on stage that his crew got for him(which is another problem), him following high school girl’s basketball and contacting certain girls on the teams, etc.
@@officialconch u must be out of ur mind. Everyone always knew he was a creep but it just wasn’t a major topic same with r Kelly. Until it became a major topic and now they’re pariahs
Drake doesn't hate Kendrick enough to fight back with passion. Kendrick does. Drake got caught lacking with Like That, and was forced to jump in the beef ONLY BECAUSE he was sneak dissing Kdot for the past 10 years (for god knows what reason). How are you gonna jump in and say "this beef has been brewing for 10 years" and then you fight back like you have nothing against your opponent. I'm sorry but Drake was acting tough for show, and it bit him back HARD.
Kenny strikes me as the type of person to address any issue he has with you directly. Drake understood Kenny's angle because he told him. He even said I was surprised to receive that feature request because you (Drake) knew what the issue was and why he wouldn't accept it. Drake always knew why and he knew he couldn't take him alone. Which is why he tried to pull Cole into it.
Drake doesn’t understand that being a PDF File & Groomer are mutually perceived as terrible by present day society. Notice how specific he is when he says “I’ve never been w/ anyone “UNDERAGE.”” That’s fine but when you’ve been associating with someone, while they’re a minor, any sexual contact with them once they’re become of legal age is predatory. You are weaponizing your powerful mentor-like position for your own sexual benefit.
Yeah it's actually scary to think about. The girls describe it like they're in awe of talking to him, as they would be bc they're teenagers and it's Drake. Truly grooming and sicko behavior
Exactly While I feel like this was one of his possible choices to respond, it definitely doesn’t mean it was the right one or would’ve mitigated any aftermath
@@PrimeKobeBryant listen to Jaded from Scorpion "We coulda waited, I wasn’t rushin’ differences in ages/ You’re old enough, but you’re still a baby" talking about Jorja Smith
The point of the conflict between the tone of "Not Like Us" and the club-like beat is because it's ironic. That's exactly the type of beat Drake sings to, but the tone is more tilted towards his actions outside of the songs rather than the content of the songs. That's why it's my favorite track, because it has this dark humor that the other disses don't
Oh yeah it’s super funny. It’s less aimed at Drake and more aimed at his fanbase who just want songs to dance at the club. Welp, be careful what you wish for.
Yeah I didn't get this whole pseudo moral grandstanding thing Shawn was alluding too during the vid. Songs with similar material have been dropped and danced too before. This song being the moral line crossed is a bit convient.
@@timvusodamu9952yeah, I feel the same. And even in his first reaction he was clearly vibing because it's infectious and catchy. I understand his point and respect his stance but I like the song cause it mocks how lame drake's hole character and crew is. I don't know, it brings me life to taunt such dispicable character as Drake's whom I never liked nor believed
I was just saying this myself. The dark humor factor is pretty evident, right when he playfully says "A minor". I imagined him in a swivel chair or in a car with a megaphone zooming by Drake saying that shit 🤣 its hilarious because of how it was delivered. He's being clowned in the most atrocious way. The song sound like it should've been in a Family Guy/Cleveland show skit lmao
@keeratssHe’s not going to mess with the money. It was all performative on his part, even the accusations. Kendrick is gonna fall right back in line after getting some easy publicity out of this.
@keeratss he is literally part of the industry of course he has inside info. Just because he isnt on the industry's side necessarily doesnt mean he isnt still pretty much working for them
@@vitaminwater9662 Not really. He’s gonna go radio silent now because the industry told him to. You actually believed him when he said fuck the industry??? That’s where he gets his money from, lmao.
The mole thing falls apart for me because Kenny had MTG loaded up after family matters. Makes no sense how he was THAT ready for it. If it was a double agent then ovo gang is just kinda dumb all around.
Reach. He just knew Drake was going to bring the family into it at some point, so he pre-recorded a track about Drake’s family. Everyone points to the name correlation but it’s pretty easy to come up with a name like MTG after he sees the title of family matters. I’m not saying he didn’t have inside info, but he definitely didn’t know everything about family matters
@@Thesshsnplus it adds validity that there actually is a real mole in the camp because it happened before with 40 spilling tea to the chick he was fucking that went and told pusha 🤣 like bruh your past history leaves doubt in peoples eyes and makes Kendrick sound way more believable than you
@@brycepretty1889 Kdot even knew Drake was gonna name it Family Matters, just search up 6th season E16 of Family Matters. There's a part in the episode where the parents won't allow their daughter to go to a concert bcuz "There are lot of crooks, crazies and weirdos out there who are ready to take advantage of young girls". 6 : 16 in LA dropped before Family Matters so there def was/is a mole
From what i have heard from victims of abuse especially women in my life, whilst you aren't wrong about not like us having the potential to mimimise the serious allegations, the other side is that it can be nice to here on a song "these people aren't like us, they're different, its not normal" and to hear that on a beat you can dance to can be genuinely uplifting
Knowing that the obviously solemn and cold shower MTG is right behind NLU is also an important point. Both still have huge venom on display, of course.
This is a great take and one I’ve been struggling with. Listening to meet the grahams that night really kept me up thinking about how I could ever listen to a drake song again. And it wasn’t that MTG was the revelation, it’s been an onslaught of new videos, allegations, and mostly just observing how drake moves and operates as a person in a position of power. Hearing his defense of these allegations was just the cherry on top
Yeah I don't think that many people at all got fully scared away thanks to whatever was in the six minutes of MTG or four minutes of NLU. It was the organisation and presentation of so much damning information on Aubrey in the hours, days, and weeks afterwards that built up to unprecedented heights that disgusting image of Aubrey now perhaps reaching a degree of ubiquity, at least in the culture.
The fact that people are saying Kendrick needs to provide proof when there are literal threads of him having inappropriate relationships with underage girls is beyond me
Yeah nah people really made the wrong turn after the FM & MTG drops with the "show receipts" stuff. We're meant to come here for immaculate competitive storyline trading, not for vigilantism.
Meet the grahams crazy to be bumping lol. Not like us goes hard but Meet the grahams straight up sounds like a scary movie or that one scene in insidious with the demon behind the guy. Low key terrifying song on its own.
King Kunta hitting different now. But fr Drake is getting struck from my playlists, I’ve been subconsciously moving away from him over the years but the Aba and Preach video about him put the nail in the coffin for me.
@@dannydanumbaI stopped listening to Drakes main songs but his features are cool, not a hardcore fan but I feel conflicted on it though because it's the same argument people make for R Kelly so idk I won't fault people who vibe to the music but if these things come to light that ain't playing in no clubs anymore Anyway I hope someone can use the beats Drake used in his disses to make actually good songs they were dope
@@dannydanumbahindsight is 20/20. For me, I haven’t been paying attention to Drakes antics over the years but when it was all put on the table I can’t ignore it.
Probably the other way around. I’m sure once Lucien got wind of the fact that Drake was losing the PR war with the predator allegations, knowing how much that’ll potentially impact sales, I’d bet money that Drake got a VERY unpleasant phone call from UMG telling him to stop playing around “beefing” for free and manage this PR nightmare before they start losing money.
This could've all been avoided if after hearing "Fck the Big 3, nigga it's just Big ME", Cole and Drake just accepted defeat lmao. Cole was warned by Schoolboy Q to back out because of what's to come since he knew about the moles in OVO and KDot and Cole still respect each other. I still see Cole no differently than before. This was just a battle that went from competition to personal, because of Drake. Drake is now finished, his image forever damaged.
You should definitely look at Cole crazy, because 7 Minute Drill was weak af. And then immediately apologizing for participating in a rap diss??? Nah, he’s out of the Big 3 convo for good. Now we can finally put Lupe up there where he always belonged.
@@majestymxnt7384 Nah, I mean every word of it. Cole took a massive L, and Lupe has always been better than him. Even Big Crit has been better than him. I never understood why people let Cole fans hype him up into a Big 3 convo. There’s way too many people that wash him in the industry.
@@lordbauer5983 Cuz Lupe’s not a full package. He’s just a lyricist but that’s all lol and quite frankly his messages don’t connect with the people much. Cole apologizing considering how serious this rap beef got when he doesn’t have serious problems with Kendrick nor Drake yet they do, was a good move on his part. Where would Cole stand in a beef where somebody is being called a whole pedophile and the other is being called a wife beater here? You tell me lol. The beef had gotten way too serious for somebody like Cole with no real animosity to be in. Shit went past just rap and turned into a smear campaign, tbh. Cole is fine.
@@majestymxnt7384 If Lupe isn’t a full package, what is Cole supposed to be? He’s not a better lyricist, he’s not a hits machine, and he’s certainly never made anything as good as Murals… So what exactly is he bringing to the table? Cole is smart for stepping out of the beef, but not for the reason everyone is saying. He wouldn’t last as long as Drake did. He doesn’t have the stomach for the competitive aspect of rap, and therefore he can’t be Big 3. Rap is a sport.
People are gonna hate but I totally understand what you mean with your point about Mr. Morale and Not Like Us. They’re HEAVY topics, so heavy that it can feel wrong on a level to be discussing it through music. You communicated your point incredibly well
I definitely feel like to each their own, for me i feel that way about meet the grahams. I listened to it once or twice but the vibes are way down on that track. On not like us kendrick hits on more than pedophilia accusations and its a bop
Fr I already stopped listening to Drake because he was too corny and shit but know this video and all that happened in the disses make me think twice and completly stop listening to him
@@Ball_Chat_FC you're a moron if you think Drake set him up and forgot to collect evidence to gloat after Kendrick fell into his trap. Drake is a whole troll you don't think he'd have had a track ready to make fun of Ken if he'd been setting him up for a week?
Consistently the most level headed and true to self takes from Shawn. I genuinely feel uncomfortable listening to Drake after everything that has transpired and come to light since basically the Pusha T beef.
I agree. It was never necessarily about the validity of the claims. It’s Kendrick saying “You have a history of creepy behavior, and I find it disturbing and disgusting.”
Shawn making great points. If you're someone talkin bout "we should kill all the pedos" and you think even an inkling of Kendrick's allegations are true, you shouldn't just be hopping in your car and turning on your favorite Drake banger. That does make you a hypocrite
I agree with Shawn. I been conflicted with listening to the drake songs I have on my Spotify because of this beef. Take Care, Nothing was the same, IYRTITL. I really felt like DAMN how can I listen to this. Music I grew up with and loved. I kinda calmed down a bit on it simply because it hasn't been proven yet, but I do pause the tracks for a moment like, damn it. Lol. It's tough and raises the question of do we separate the artist from the art?
Bro I feel the same exact way. I have a bunch of drake songs on Spotify and in last couple of days, if they come on shuffle I have to change the song. Because there’s to much proof of who Drake really is and what he’s done. I can’t listen to Drake with a clear conscious.
@@2kjae789I’ll be honest every single woman who has been roped into an allegation has cleared drakes name, drake mentioned one woman in relation to kendrick and the shits still not been cleared up.
If you like the song just listen to it. A ton of artist that we and the public consumes have said and done despicable things. Chris Brown and the whole beating women shit and he's still got millions listening to his music. Hell, even I still bump his new shit since he's still has talent. Kanye as well with the whole nazi bs he's on yet he's still releasing decent tracks. Even r. Kelly, while as despicable as he is, we can't take away from what he's done in Rnb.
I totally agree and I've been doing the same thing. I don't believe in separating the "art from the artist" because that completely misses the point of art, but what I do believe in acknowledging what aspect of the artist is being personified in their art. For example, I have no problem listening to Kanye because Graduation or TLOP are not about him being a nazi, but I do refrain from listening to R Kelly because of how much weird, creepy, manipulative, gaslighty, shit he put in the music he writes. Drake for me is somewhere in between because I can't get past the fact that their is a lot of weird shit in his songs, but then again I wasn't a fan of those drake cuts to begin with. The biggest issue for me is the aspect of Drake personality that is embodied music that I enjoy from him in songs like Jungle or Marvin's Room, are the narcissistic, toxic, kinda douchey stuff which is soooo close to the creepy, line crossing, pdf file, aspect of his personality that I think is a little more present in some of his modern cuts (partially cuz hes pushing 40 and it's no longer endearing). Idk part of me is like I never actually liked drake as a person, but the stuff about him in his art I found entertaining is dangerously close to being irreparably tainted by all this coming out about him.
I’ll admit It’s an unexpected way to raise awareness about grooming lol but Drake has proven himself to be a creep. I for that reason I think it’s actually a good thing that we are talking shit about it and celebrating the rejection of this behavior. If it comes with a certified banger (no drizzy) then so be it.
Let me get this out here because I know Twitter gone slander me. Kendrick won before Drake even responded. Why? Because the general consensus was that Kendrick is a real rapper and Drake is not. That’s the numbers and statistics going on when like that dropped. Here is the truth, Kendrick came at Drake with a fade because he, along with most artists in the game, hate this man. Drake is an exceptional businessman and media personality, he has built a career off of memes and viral hits. He is the most successful artist in history at this point. But he ain’t get to where he is without stepping over people. Those people being everybody who was brought up in this beef. He does have allegations and eyes on about his pedophilic and grooming interactions with young girls, but Kendrick never would have taken it there if Drake, in his hubris, didn’t bring up Kendrick’s wife on pushups. Immediately taking an angle that he thought he could manipulate because we all knew, he knew, he couldn’t fairly take on Kendrick in a rap contest. Kendrick is superior in talent and in practice. Based off general perception not just my opinion btw. He’s screwed over, and messed with everybody affiliated in this beef. Some like Rick Ross seem to be stemmed in more of a jealousy, but others like The Weeknd are based on Drake using and abusing his power over young artists. He did help build up artists from all over, A$AP Rocky, Kendrick, so on. Taking them on tours or ding features, but he still burnt bridges because of his ego. And that is what we’ve seen, there is probably hella shit behind media eyes that we don’t know. I hate drake, simply because I hate what he stands for. Hip hop is what I grew up on and he, even before Kendrick pointed it out, seemed to me, to take from a culture that he’s not apart of, he plays the system well, but it feels like a culture vulture, thus he turned hip hop into what it is today, and maybe I’m just old now but that ain’t how hip hop was back in the day. Kendrick, J Cole, they are what I see portray hip hop and it’s culture and I prefer them be at the top. That being said I do think Drake makes great music, he’s done great things for many artists, and I’ll always give him his flowers. But in this beef, the back and forth, shows why Kendrick is real hip hop and Drake is just trying to be. Kendrick’s ‘euphoria’ is a master class in writing, ‘6:16’ was a brilliant set up that followed drake’s ‘family matters’ with ‘meet the graham’s’ which even if you remove the daughter verse, was a letter to drakes son, mother, father, and self all expressing the issues with drakes personal values and the possible disgusting things he is affiliated with. Finishing off Drake with ‘not like us’ a club banger that we are all blasting and enjoying compared to the lack luster display Drake presented. Yes lack luster. He had the potential to beat Kendrick with more than just rap, he could have made catchy hits to let the media blast and silence Kdot, instead he proudly tried to one up Kendrick’s rapping ability with his own. ‘FM’ was a solid diss record but I only remember the allegations of K abusing Whitney, but I can hear “I’m YNW Melly” “cheesing fam” “ion give a fk bout who you hang with” And of course all the quotes from ‘not like us’ Kendrick beat Drake at his own game and even showed the ability in rap that he also is capable of. This beef to me just highlighted that Drake never really felt like he was taking it seriously or that it was necessary because he’d always jump back to dissing Rick, Rocky, metro and future, instead of attacking the person who the beef is originally started with. My thoughts thus far if you made it here are just disappointed in the display Drake approached with, blown away by the display of Kendrick, and happy that all these reaction channels were able to get so much content, for me and them.
But this is what he was telling us in Meet the Grahams "To any woman that be playin' his music, know that you're playin' your sister Or better, you're sellin' your niece to the weirdos, not the good ones" Kendrick is suggesting we've been bopping to crazy lyrics and that for ages now from BBL Drizzy, you just said how you felt about Jaded but ultimately we just dont feel comfortable with Kendrick's Not Like Us song because he is so explicit with it. I think that is to prove the point though. He references andre3k in "Like That" who literally has a song during his time with Outkast (Hey Ya!) with super depressing lyrics that made the world dance to this day, yes the material isnt the same but I quote from Hey Ya "Y'all don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dance". I still agree that it is sad though but ultimately Drake wanted people bopping all summer to dave Freeeeeeeeeee and alleged DV so he set the tone for what was to come despite being baited into doing it.
For me i definitely understand the feeling of not being able to dance to the song . in the words of Andre 3000 " yall don't wanna hear me you just wanna dance " while at the same time showing he can make a dancing club track . I do think its possible though to listen and watch things and still be aware of the evil that the agents of entertainment may have done despite evidence being present. You also spoke on patterns of behavior which is exactly why people are more inclined to believe the allegations towards drake because of the truth and heavyness of alot of the statements while at the same time less inclined to believe Kendrick abuses his girl , that was on the cover of his album and sung on the other one. But still gives me as a long time kendrick fan a raised eye brow and to be mindful that this can be true.
Amazing take. Love love love how great you've approached this. A lot of the discussion gravitates to like "who won?" and who got got, but not really acknowledging just how heavy all of this is. I understand not applying this feeling to everyone, but it's important to be aware of just how serious these topics are and have that at the forefront of our minds rather than mindlessly swaying to a track
The conflicting is real. It feels celebratory in a way that I can enjoy for me. I think because it feels like a reset and a shift that’s really needed on a deeper level, even if it has to come in this way and not some sober-minded, serious reckoning. My hope is that it precipitates a necessary shift and maybe even eventually interrupt harm that’s potentially being done.
Crown Kung fu Kenny 👑 im cool wit it ending..... Kendrick did his thing in this verbal sparring match. Dude put his whole heart into it. Drake slid on family matters fasho but overall ima rock wit Kdot.
This video is not only nothing but facts, but this helped me a lot to understand this whole current *situation*. AND you helped me to get a lot of things straight, I really like your videos Shawn 😃
@@lordbauer5983I don't think Kendrick would give a fuck if that was the case. But that discord screenshot on Twitter got disproven by actual insiders so k could definitely again soon. He is most definitely doing a TON of damage and prying open the whole industry. I just hope he doesn't get wacked
8:17 facts. the pattern of Drake's behavior w/ underaged girls would make one reasonably believe that there is maybe *some* truth in what Kendrick is saying & makes his behavior questionable at least from a moral standpoint.
Completely agreed. The night after "The Heart Pt 6" and everything seemed over, I personally felt sick about the idea that we're just gonna move like nothing happened with how serious the accusations are. It leaves me just wanting to know the truth.
The subject matter in these got heavy really fast, but I think if people want to celebrate a guy with a widely documented problematic history with minors being "exposed" or at least finally being talked about, I think that's ok. There's a lot of songs out there that have been hits and had serious/dark subject matter from a lyrical standpoint. Kendrick was more blunt about it, but it's nothing new. That being said, if you don't feel comfortable dancing to it or bumping it, then that's fine too. To each their own.
That line about “ damn she still look good in her high school pics” from nice for what messed my head up today lmfao this beef crazy. Dot won. It’s Hiphop man it is what it is. Things will be said… there can only be one per era. The king word.. the “a goat” word.. it’s time to give that shit it’s real meaning back in rap . Drake a great artist, I don’t know about the allegations like you said we all gotta make our own decisions about how we feel after looking at everything .
@nebula8246idol worship be making people delusional dude hates Kendrick stans but keeps commenting to defend Drake. it’s sad dude too dumb to see the irony
@@Ball_Chat_FC as someone who has never been a huge fan of Kendrick. I mean there’s no denying his talent and intelligence but his music feels like he’s trying to showcase those things more than thinking about how listeners will react to the sonics of what he’s creating for an auditory experience. Drake on the other hand has always created very formulaic battle tested and lab grown hits that embed themselves into your head like crack but have no value or substance whatsoever. Their personas are very similar to their music in this way. So as someone who’s absolutely not a Kendrick Stan and was relatively unbiased at the start. This is an uncontested win on Kendrick’s part. Complete victory. And will undoubtedly tarnish drakes reputation and legacy forever. As someone who even liked a few Drake songs prior to this I will not be able to listen to him again with a clear conscience.
Nah fr, I fw with a handful of drake songs but now when I hear a drake verse on my playlist I skip it 😂, not outta pettiness either I just genuinely don’t wanna hear it
Look at diddy, r. kelly, usher, russel simmons and now drake. There’s something weird going on in the industry, and artists have been pointing it out for a long time. You might be conflicted about how the message was delivered, but i think Kendrick needed to package this info as such for people to listen while the whole world was watching. That’s what it takes to expose an open secret.
First person shooter vs Like that (1) Push ups (1) vs Euphoria (1) Taylor made freestyle vs 6: 16 in LA (1) Family Matters (1) vs Meet the Grahams (1) The heart part 6 vs Not like us (1) 2-5 (Kendrick won)
I get that Family Matters was the best track from Drake and you don’t want to just put Drake as losing every one. Meet the Grahams is in another league from family matters imo. Despite family matters being a good song overall
@@SzathmaryAdam I take points away from FM because Drake takes a whole verse addressing other people rather than making the whole diss about Kendrick. I take points away from MTG for Kendrick rapping about a daughter that *may* not exist; if the daughter is real though, this is the easiest sweep I've ever seen.
Well done! Kendrick ain't playing. He's hammered on the same points in different artistic expressions. He covered the spectrum of how people take in music.
Kendrick himself removed the edited version Elliot Wilson posted of Meet The Grahams with the daughter verse taken off. This is at a time when hes literally granted everyone copyright access and theres Jersey club remixes of his songs on DSPs. What does that tell you? Hes STANDS on Drake having a daughter that the public doesnt know about! Do with that info what you will.
@@imrawnn Yeah, they’ve both grown a lot as artists and lyricists. I think that would’ve made for a better battle. Probably wouldn’t have gotten so personal either.
7:04 I had this same thought while listening to Not Like Us the other day.. Idk if Kendrick did this on purpose or not, but notice how Not Like Us and Meet The Grahams share the same subject with polar opposite tones, and notice how Not Like Us has substantially more views than Meet The Grahams, that illustrates to me that people are so distracted by the spectacle that they're either missing the bigger picture or glossing over it for entertainment, which says a lot about society as a whole. If that's the message Kendrick wanted to get across, this is a genius way of doing it, but the majority of people will miss that.
7:03 I think i can do both. I find myself fully enjoying Meet the Grahams while stocking at work and wishing that Kendrick went even harder. No mercy for false gods.
Felt like Drake was dragging the 20v1 because he didn't have enough to drop a diss focused solely on Kendrick while Kendrick was going to drag what he had doing those counter punches with his drops as long as Drake kept going. Feel like it would have been cooler if they had just kept it rapping instead of going for personal rumors and slander but Drake had to keep going to Whitney
The biggest thing I hate about this rap beef/battle, is the way Drake is viewed. Drake can literally get on a track, lie multiple times on said track, misunderstand what Kendrick was saying, and have a reputation of doing the things Kendrick said (obviously not the daughter thing because that has not been proven).But in some world and reality the battle is/was considered close. 😑
I think kendrick is going to drop again but maybe neither of them say anything else and thats it. Only time will tell but I dont see kendrick letting drake get the last laugh.
He’s probably letting Not Like Us do the rounds before putting something out there that’ll take our attention away from it. After all there’s no big three anymore to compete against so he has to compete with himself.
I liked that Shawn clarified that hypocrisy in music consumption and his reasonings for not fully clicking with Mr. Morale’s themes of trauma and resolve especially as it varies to such degrees who we exempt because of sayings like “separate the art of the artist”. Hopping to a West-Coast banger accusing a serious Epstein-level pedo accusation sits wrong with me too and if allegations are true can only speak to an extent when the person behind the art is being found out and we all now turn the cheek to him despite what voices could have been lost to the vibes we remember Drake for.
Respect to shawn on this. Basically what I got from this all, is keep the same energy. There’s holes on both sides of this beef and we need to see the receipts. Can’t descredit that Drake showed up to compete and stood his ground but the allegations made against him in this beef are too heavy to overlook. kendrick as well. I can’t see that CLB cover the same. This beef showed that the industry is shady. I think it’s going to be interesting seeing the industry moving forward.
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When Drake gave a monologue at the end of Heart part 6…I knew it was over. He fully gave up and just started complaining 😂
Going from begging Kendrick to drop to saying Kendrick has it “burnt tf out” for dropping too much in just one week is CRAZY.
Couldn’t even rhyme his thoughts anymore. You know, the thing rappers do
Nicki Minaj type shi
Both of them yapping about feet
@@majorisker well yeah, he did that because he thought Family Matters was going to be his own personal The Story of Adidon. But, then Kendrick dropped Meet the Grahams and squashed all of his hype.
He was waving around his little white flag at the end. Typical Canadian behavior. Pretty sure the french taught them that.
The beef being over feels like a kid being sad that the birthday party is over😭
NBS 😂, this is easily the most attention Hip-Hop has gotten this decade, it’s impossible to go on the internet without seeing people talk about this beef rn.
Nah don't be like that, we got some decent amount of music out of this already. It only would've been dragging out at this point
It’s spawned some great music from other artists too.. Kendrick sent a ripple across the industry that forced Dababy and Lil Tecca to make decent music. Hope the momentum keeps moving.
This is the same feeling I had after finishing Better Call Saul. I was like "what now??"
@@firstlast9846 lil tecca been making good music, people jus forgot about him after WLYT
he was supposed to save summer, about 2-3 summers ago, and only dropped one album in 3 years
Drake saying “you need to check your facts and get your info right” and then immediately misinterpret a song afterwards is hilarious 😂
he did not misinterpret it yall dont be listening
@@dieforyoubabyyhe literally did misinterpret mother I sober, honestly I feel like he’s never even listened to it lmao just looking up TikToks or something
@@dieforyoubabyy he literally did tho. Kendrick **literally** said that did NOT get molested on Mother I Sober.
The whole point of that bar was to antagonize Kendrick, he didn’t misinterpret it, Kendrick’s himself said he wasn’t molested, but no one believed him, so it came off as maybe this is denial? Maybe you did get touched, but you’re in denial, so by him saying that bar it’s intended to reopen those wounds
@@studiousstudent_ I guess from a Drake fan stand point that might be a aha got you moment but from the other side it just looks like Drake just is desperate grabbing at straws
The heart part 6 was basically “if you’re not going to play fair…I quit”
@@ramborigs Fair, long as we agree he lost. 😂💯
@@ramborigs That's honestly the truth of it. He tried to play dirty and lost. He really learned the wrong thing from his exchange with Pusha T.
Just a remix of the end of the Pusha beef.
It's hilarious how we are acting like every single girl he been seen with has denied any allegations. When ur actually guilty it woulda came to light by now
@@G82Watts🤖
You gotta play BBL Drizzy when the credits roll
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
got that outro song feel for sureee 😂
Someone else already made a video in the fashion of a post credits scene with credits rolling and it’s gold 😂😂
@@TheSoftcoreMonkey if you’re talking about “A proper end to the beef” by FLWRS I saw that 😂😂 top tier meme
Bbl drizzy really made it feel like we watched a movie
Kendrick changing the perception of Cole and Drake entirely because they complemented on First Person Shooter is the pettiest shit ever and why Kendrick is my goat
i wouldn't say j cole tho. people still have respect for him. they are gonna clown him a little but that's done already. j cole is still a respectable talented person. as for drake.. i can't say that
Bet there won't be anyone tryna coattail again 😂😂
@@snejanaceneva3455Like Shawn said when he apologized tho, they aren’t putting him up in the Big 3 with Kendrick like they did before the disses. Which is why Kendrick called them out in the first place so he could put himself as the only best rapper out rn.
Glazer.
@@cristianjmedrano put out a 3 album run on par of Good Kid MAAD City, To Pimp a Butterfly, and DAMN, and I’ll glaze you too Christian
Lol Aubrey called himself a "war general"🤣🤣
And surrendered on the same track
LMAOO 😅
@@og_mante5138 on some, "Hold me back"
@@og_mante5138damn
Terrible metaphor
Im not dancing to lyrics about pedophilia im dancing to the downfall of drake. Totally different but I get where youre coming from. Its a fair perspective.
for me I can stomach jokes about painful subjects like that so long as they come at the expense of the abuser not the abused and for me Not Like Us does not feel like its ever confused about who the target of the joke is. Its fair if you feel that joking about these things at all is too trivializing though.
Agreed here.
Yup
This💯
Yeah, I've seen some people online expressing the dismay at the fact that women and teenage/child victims are being used as pawns in this beef between two adult men, and honestly that's pretty fair criticism.
it aint over till ybn nahmir enters the beef
Hella fax he the goat fr
What YBN gonna do when Drake brings out Nav for a feature?
@@othelliusmaximus He gon have an Almighty Jay feature in the cut. K.O. track
If I gave you all my loooove
@@JunkBoiJack He's gonna scare everybody away from the beef 🤣Everybody gonna wanna leave 🤣
The beef is over because UMG got involved and they realized Kendrick's accusations was messing with the money.
Hope kendrick stands on business bc he said fuck the industry
Nike losing bread too, but allegedly, a tweet I saw, says Kendrick not gonna budge
@@tj-kg4coKendrick performed at the Superbowl with a Rosicrucian cross. He is very much “industry”.
@@WeAreAllThingstake off your tinfoil condom
@@WeAreAllThingsthat is not proof he’s “industry”
Long story short, Drake sneak dissed Kdot for ten years straight (since Control dropped), without realizing how dirty his hidden catalogue is, then when Kendrick got mad and hit back, he hopped on some "what's this dude on about?" energy.
Bro, you poke someone for that long, they will hit back, ESPECIALLY if you're an easy punching bag.
Drake fans: DRAKE WON BY MILES
Also Drake fans: well the thing about age of consent laws…
What AK said about it was prolly the worst
you know they lost when the conversations begins to be about morality and age of consent
@Kattytatty02 I don't even know what Ak said, but it has to be bad knowing how he acts. Fat man was in tears because he couldn't say slurs on stream, saying something about age of consent sounds just as horrible.
@@Kattytatty02 what did ak say this time
Yea what did ak say? I don’t feel like clicking that 2 hour Andrew Schittz podcast if that’s where you found it…
You’re awake. Congrats. This isn’t only about drake. Both “Not Like Us” and “meet the grahams” Kendrick calls out the industry across all entertainment. There’s more predators drake is just the best example of hidden in plain sight.
This!
I think what’s more daunting and chilling about it is he wasn’t hidden in plain sight. He was blatantly flaunting it. He’s so cavalier about his attraction to children but uses his status to obfuscate any responsibility or criticism. Nothing hidden about it.
@@cecemimi101I think he never hid it cause he saw that no one ever really had the thought of it being a serious case. Millie Bobby Brown's case is the best example. She OPENLY revealed, on an interview, they were messaging, that he was really sweet and giving boy advice and the interviewer said "that's amazing". He painted such a good image of him, always clean in public, lightskin, generous, that he created a shield. He probably through he was doing nothing wrong the way people weren't even blinking with these testemonys
he really been pointing at the ovo staff frfr.. his whole angle against drake is discrediting him and exposing his history of lying so it’s easier to feed a narrative to the public
Exactly, Drake just happen to be the face of the industry
Can’t believe ppl really believe drake set a mole up lol 😂
Literally called them clowns in the same bar and the way the beef developed and how Kendrick hinted at hearing his records beforehand it’s just pathetic 😂 really nabbed a Twitter angle and ran with it
@@qeo2374 and even if it was planned why wouldn’t u have the receipts ready to go to discredit K dot? U just let these accusations marinate and spread online? Straight clown fest 😂
he cant even set up his bars properly
Yeah I'm unfortunately still hearing that shit.
If Drake really tricked Kendrick with a fake mole then he would have revealed that right after Meet the Grahams dropped. Drake had about 24 hours to reveal that he planted the fake info before K Dot dropped again, that would have been the best gotcha moment for him and would have made Kendrick look like a fool, which would have given him the W in this beef. But he didn't, instead he was talking to Ak and tmz... Bro is capping and is literally using his twitter and reddit stans theories as his ghost writers to save face.
I think people enjoy not like us, in part, because he’s dunking on a creep
That’s exactly what it is. It’s shadenfreude to the fullest.
No one actually thinks Drake is a creep yall just dragging it for your own entertainment
@@officialconchI think he’s a creep. People made a whole compilation of him hanging around young girls, him kissing a 17 year old on stage that his crew got for him(which is another problem), him following high school girl’s basketball and contacting certain girls on the teams, etc.
@@officialconch this is my reply to ignorance
@@officialconch u must be out of ur mind. Everyone always knew he was a creep but it just wasn’t a major topic same with r Kelly. Until it became a major topic and now they’re pariahs
i was on the fence but yuno miles really convinced me who the true winner here is
Young Yuno had a dream
The friends we made along the way
yuno cooked Kendrick and Drake so bad that they both scared to reply
🎵 kendricl lamar drake kendricl lamar drake 🎶
Drake doesn't hate Kendrick enough to fight back with passion. Kendrick does.
Drake got caught lacking with Like That, and was forced to jump in the beef ONLY BECAUSE he was sneak dissing Kdot for the past 10 years (for god knows what reason).
How are you gonna jump in and say "this beef has been brewing for 10 years" and then you fight back like you have nothing against your opponent.
I'm sorry but Drake was acting tough for show, and it bit him back HARD.
Kenny strikes me as the type of person to address any issue he has with you directly. Drake understood Kenny's angle because he told him. He even said I was surprised to receive that feature request because you (Drake) knew what the issue was and why he wouldn't accept it.
Drake always knew why and he knew he couldn't take him alone. Which is why he tried to pull Cole into it.
@@ladybluelotusTHISSDD
Drake doesn’t understand that being a PDF File & Groomer are mutually perceived as terrible by present day society. Notice how specific he is when he says “I’ve never been w/ anyone “UNDERAGE.”” That’s fine but when you’ve been associating with someone, while they’re a minor, any sexual contact with them once they’re become of legal age is predatory. You are weaponizing your powerful mentor-like position for your own sexual benefit.
Yeah it's actually scary to think about. The girls describe it like they're in awe of talking to him, as they would be bc they're teenagers and it's Drake. Truly grooming and sicko behavior
THIS. I don’t think Drake is a PDF File but I do think he is a groomer. There are too many instances for it to be a coincidence. This is a pattern.
Exactly
While I feel like this was one of his possible choices to respond, it definitely doesn’t mean it was the right one or would’ve mitigated any aftermath
@@MVPboppinhe never had any relationship with any of those girls
@@PrimeKobeBryant listen to Jaded from Scorpion "We coulda waited, I wasn’t rushin’ differences in ages/ You’re old enough, but you’re still a baby" talking about Jorja Smith
room bright as fuck for this one
B.o.B. trying to make a come back during this whole thing is the best part.
flat earth bob
Nuh nuh nuh nothin on you
Did he diss the curve of the planet?
@@amysel🤣🤣🤣
I found out that Shia labouf ( or however you spell his name ) had beef with Drake 😂
The point of the conflict between the tone of "Not Like Us" and the club-like beat is because it's ironic. That's exactly the type of beat Drake sings to, but the tone is more tilted towards his actions outside of the songs rather than the content of the songs. That's why it's my favorite track, because it has this dark humor that the other disses don't
Oh yeah it’s super funny. It’s less aimed at Drake and more aimed at his fanbase who just want songs to dance at the club.
Welp, be careful what you wish for.
Say ov-hoeee step this way step this way 😂
Yeah I didn't get this whole pseudo moral grandstanding thing Shawn was alluding too during the vid. Songs with similar material have been dropped and danced too before. This song being the moral line crossed is a bit convient.
@@timvusodamu9952yeah, I feel the same. And even in his first reaction he was clearly vibing because it's infectious and catchy. I understand his point and respect his stance but I like the song cause it mocks how lame drake's hole character and crew is. I don't know, it brings me life to taunt such dispicable character as Drake's whom I never liked nor believed
I was just saying this myself. The dark humor factor is pretty evident, right when he playfully says "A minor". I imagined him in a swivel chair or in a car with a megaphone zooming by Drake saying that shit 🤣 its hilarious because of how it was delivered. He's being clowned in the most atrocious way. The song sound like it should've been in a Family Guy/Cleveland show skit lmao
R.I.P. Anita Max Wynn
Fr 💅🏾
You know that Kendrick won the beef when UMG is essentially begging him to stop because Drake did nothing but incriminate himself.
Kendrick was also exposing the industry especially in meet the grahams, I think if it went further more was to come to light
@keeratssHe’s not going to mess with the money. It was all performative on his part, even the accusations.
Kendrick is gonna fall right back in line after getting some easy publicity out of this.
@keeratss he is literally part of the industry of course he has inside info. Just because he isnt on the industry's side necessarily doesnt mean he isnt still pretty much working for them
@@lordbauer5983 nah this is a crazy take
@@vitaminwater9662 Not really. He’s gonna go radio silent now because the industry told him to.
You actually believed him when he said fuck the industry??? That’s where he gets his money from, lmao.
The mole thing falls apart for me because Kenny had MTG loaded up after family matters. Makes no sense how he was THAT ready for it. If it was a double agent then ovo gang is just kinda dumb all around.
Reach. He just knew Drake was going to bring the family into it at some point, so he pre-recorded a track about Drake’s family.
Everyone points to the name correlation but it’s pretty easy to come up with a name like MTG after he sees the title of family matters.
I’m not saying he didn’t have inside info, but he definitely didn’t know everything about family matters
@@brycepretty1889I think more likely he saw how drake went after Pusha T girl in their beef and knew he would come at Whitney eventually
@@Thesshsnplus it adds validity that there actually is a real mole in the camp because it happened before with 40 spilling tea to the chick he was fucking that went and told pusha 🤣 like bruh your past history leaves doubt in peoples eyes and makes Kendrick sound way more believable than you
@@brycepretty1889 Kdot even knew Drake was gonna name it Family Matters, just search up 6th season E16 of Family Matters. There's a part in the episode where the parents won't allow their daughter to go to a concert bcuz "There are lot of crooks, crazies and weirdos out there who are ready to take advantage of young girls". 6 : 16 in LA dropped before Family Matters so there def was/is a mole
@@Thesshsn bro how is that guy so thirsty for women in a relationship holy shit that's such a big insecurity for a guy with a child.🤣🤣🤣
From what i have heard from victims of abuse especially women in my life, whilst you aren't wrong about not like us having the potential to mimimise the serious allegations, the other side is that it can be nice to here on a song "these people aren't like us, they're different, its not normal" and to hear that on a beat you can dance to can be genuinely uplifting
Knowing that the obviously solemn and cold shower MTG is right behind NLU is also an important point.
Both still have huge venom on display, of course.
This is a great take and one I’ve been struggling with. Listening to meet the grahams that night really kept me up thinking about how I could ever listen to a drake song again. And it wasn’t that MTG was the revelation, it’s been an onslaught of new videos, allegations, and mostly just observing how drake moves and operates as a person in a position of power. Hearing his defense of these allegations was just the cherry on top
Yeah I don't think that many people at all got fully scared away thanks to whatever was in the six minutes of MTG or four minutes of NLU.
It was the organisation and presentation of so much damning information on Aubrey in the hours, days, and weeks afterwards that built up to unprecedented heights that disgusting image of Aubrey now perhaps reaching a degree of ubiquity, at least in the culture.
The fact that people are saying Kendrick needs to provide proof when there are literal threads of him having inappropriate relationships with underage girls is beyond me
They so weird bro 😭😭😭
Yeah nah people really made the wrong turn after the FM & MTG drops with the "show receipts" stuff.
We're meant to come here for immaculate competitive storyline trading, not for vigilantism.
Shawn i’m bumping both meet the grahams & not like us idc 😭😭
Facts lmfao
"YOU LIED" goes so hard
Uncle Al KILLED the production as always. And Kenny's Pulitzer Pen is the best it's ever been.
I’m on all of them still bro
Meet the grahams crazy to be bumping lol. Not like us goes hard but Meet the grahams straight up sounds like a scary movie or that one scene in insidious with the demon behind the guy. Low key terrifying song on its own.
Meanwhile J.cole riding his bike near the great canyon after meditating and camping for tge past 3 weeks
ah yes, the great canyon
@@zuzsyycosmosthe dope canyon
Cole keeping his head down after realizing that Kenny would murder him.
The decent canyon
The mild canyon
King Kunta hitting different now. But fr Drake is getting struck from my playlists, I’ve been subconsciously moving away from him over the years but the Aba and Preach video about him put the nail in the coffin for me.
Hell Penguinz0 said he was glad Drake was finally being called out too. It’s like everyone knows except for hardcore Drake fans
@@dannydanumbaI stopped listening to Drakes main songs but his features are cool, not a hardcore fan but I feel conflicted on it though because it's the same argument people make for R Kelly so idk I won't fault people who vibe to the music but if these things come to light that ain't playing in no clubs anymore
Anyway I hope someone can use the beats Drake used in his disses to make actually good songs they were dope
@@dannydanumbahindsight is 20/20. For me, I haven’t been paying attention to Drakes antics over the years but when it was all put on the table I can’t ignore it.
Drake called his daddy Lucian for help💀
Bro I forgot Kanye said this 💀💀💀
Probably the other way around. I’m sure once Lucien got wind of the fact that Drake was losing the PR war with the predator allegations, knowing how much that’ll potentially impact sales, I’d bet money that Drake got a VERY unpleasant phone call from UMG telling him to stop playing around “beefing” for free and manage this PR nightmare before they start losing money.
yall are glazers that screenshot was unconfirmed true
I've never felt more validated for ignoring Drake's entire career
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 💯
I only heard shit on the radio, I think.
I'm right there with you, man. I'm coming out of this with a whole different perspective now
What percpective?
drizzy with the "i would have won IF I ACTUALLY CARED" is top-tier 2-year old IQ banter
I'm dancing, bopping, and totally entertained with calling out abusers.
I think Not Like Us is a survivor's anthem.
The Kendrick beef is over. BUT........
OVO is now gonna have to prepare for XO
The Canadian Showdown to see who runs Canada watch it live on PPV‼️
This could've all been avoided if after hearing "Fck the Big 3, nigga it's just Big ME", Cole and Drake just accepted defeat lmao.
Cole was warned by Schoolboy Q to back out because of what's to come since he knew about the moles in OVO and KDot and Cole still respect each other. I still see Cole no differently than before. This was just a battle that went from competition to personal, because of Drake.
Drake is now finished, his image forever damaged.
You should definitely look at Cole crazy, because 7 Minute Drill was weak af. And then immediately apologizing for participating in a rap diss???
Nah, he’s out of the Big 3 convo for good. Now we can finally put Lupe up there where he always belonged.
@@lordbauer5983This was a corny way to advocate for your favorite rapper Lupe lol.
@@majestymxnt7384 Nah, I mean every word of it. Cole took a massive L, and Lupe has always been better than him.
Even Big Crit has been better than him. I never understood why people let Cole fans hype him up into a Big 3 convo. There’s way too many people that wash him in the industry.
@@lordbauer5983 Cuz Lupe’s not a full package. He’s just a lyricist but that’s all lol and quite frankly his messages don’t connect with the people much.
Cole apologizing considering how serious this rap beef got when he doesn’t have serious problems with Kendrick nor Drake yet they do, was a good move on his part. Where would Cole stand in a beef where somebody is being called a whole pedophile and the other is being called a wife beater here? You tell me lol. The beef had gotten way too serious for somebody like Cole with no real animosity to be in. Shit went past just rap and turned into a smear campaign, tbh. Cole is fine.
@@majestymxnt7384 If Lupe isn’t a full package, what is Cole supposed to be? He’s not a better lyricist, he’s not a hits machine, and he’s certainly never made anything as good as Murals… So what exactly is he bringing to the table?
Cole is smart for stepping out of the beef, but not for the reason everyone is saying. He wouldn’t last as long as Drake did. He doesn’t have the stomach for the competitive aspect of rap, and therefore he can’t be Big 3.
Rap is a sport.
People are gonna hate but I totally understand what you mean with your point about Mr. Morale and Not Like Us. They’re HEAVY topics, so heavy that it can feel wrong on a level to be discussing it through music. You communicated your point incredibly well
I definitely feel like to each their own, for me i feel that way about meet the grahams. I listened to it once or twice but the vibes are way down on that track. On not like us kendrick hits on more than pedophilia accusations and its a bop
Not gonna lie this video convinced me to get Drake off my playlists
Fr I already stopped listening to Drake because he was too corny and shit but know this video and all that happened in the disses make me think twice and completly stop listening to him
Same.
“Living in your truth is better than living in somebody else’s lie”😤🔥
mmmmm 🫰🏾🫰🏾🔥
Drake said who ever Kendrick getting his info from are clowns then seconds later says they fed Kendrick the information? Like WTH 🤦🏾♂️ 😂
To be fair he definitely talking about two separate things. One the ratting two the child
@@G.O.81kdot glazers act like he has the most insane lyrics ever but then struggle to comprehend basic bars from a pop star. It’s pathetic
@@Ball_Chat_FC 😭 no lie tho
@@Ball_Chat_FC you're a moron if you think Drake set him up and forgot to collect evidence to gloat after Kendrick fell into his trap. Drake is a whole troll you don't think he'd have had a track ready to make fun of Ken if he'd been setting him up for a week?
You did great Kendrick, you may now rest for another 1855 days
Consistently the most level headed and true to self takes from Shawn. I genuinely feel uncomfortable listening to Drake after everything that has transpired and come to light since basically the Pusha T beef.
I agree. It was never necessarily about the validity of the claims. It’s Kendrick saying “You have a history of creepy behavior, and I find it disturbing and disgusting.”
Shawn making great points. If you're someone talkin bout "we should kill all the pedos" and you think even an inkling of Kendrick's allegations are true, you shouldn't just be hopping in your car and turning on your favorite Drake banger. That does make you a hypocrite
Great take Shawn. Very nuanced perspective. Glad someone with a big platform is talking about the situation this way.
I agree with Shawn. I been conflicted with listening to the drake songs I have on my Spotify because of this beef. Take Care, Nothing was the same, IYRTITL. I really felt like DAMN how can I listen to this. Music I grew up with and loved. I kinda calmed down a bit on it simply because it hasn't been proven yet, but I do pause the tracks for a moment like, damn it. Lol.
It's tough and raises the question of do we separate the artist from the art?
Bro I feel the same exact way. I have a bunch of drake songs on Spotify and in last couple of days, if they come on shuffle I have to change the song. Because there’s to much proof of who Drake really is and what he’s done. I can’t listen to Drake with a clear conscious.
@@2kjae789I’ll be honest every single woman who has been roped into an allegation has cleared drakes name, drake mentioned one woman in relation to kendrick and the shits still not been cleared up.
If you like the song just listen to it. A ton of artist that we and the public consumes have said and done despicable things. Chris Brown and the whole beating women shit and he's still got millions listening to his music. Hell, even I still bump his new shit since he's still has talent. Kanye as well with the whole nazi bs he's on yet he's still releasing decent tracks. Even r. Kelly, while as despicable as he is, we can't take away from what he's done in Rnb.
@@Tishtash1bro even with what the women said, drake still kissed a 17 year old on stage, touched her and texted hella minors
I totally agree and I've been doing the same thing. I don't believe in separating the "art from the artist" because that completely misses the point of art, but what I do believe in acknowledging what aspect of the artist is being personified in their art. For example, I have no problem listening to Kanye because Graduation or TLOP are not about him being a nazi, but I do refrain from listening to R Kelly because of how much weird, creepy, manipulative, gaslighty, shit he put in the music he writes. Drake for me is somewhere in between because I can't get past the fact that their is a lot of weird shit in his songs, but then again I wasn't a fan of those drake cuts to begin with. The biggest issue for me is the aspect of Drake personality that is embodied music that I enjoy from him in songs like Jungle or Marvin's Room, are the narcissistic, toxic, kinda douchey stuff which is soooo close to the creepy, line crossing, pdf file, aspect of his personality that I think is a little more present in some of his modern cuts (partially cuz hes pushing 40 and it's no longer endearing). Idk part of me is like I never actually liked drake as a person, but the stuff about him in his art I found entertaining is dangerously close to being irreparably tainted by all this coming out about him.
I’ll admit It’s an unexpected way to raise awareness about grooming lol but Drake has proven himself to be a creep.
I for that reason I think it’s actually a good thing that we are talking shit about it and celebrating the rejection of this behavior. If it comes with a certified banger (no drizzy) then so be it.
Let me get this out here because I know Twitter gone slander me.
Kendrick won before Drake even responded. Why? Because the general consensus was that Kendrick is a real rapper and Drake is not. That’s the numbers and statistics going on when like that dropped.
Here is the truth, Kendrick came at Drake with a fade because he, along with most artists in the game, hate this man. Drake is an exceptional businessman and media personality, he has built a career off of memes and viral hits. He is the most successful artist in history at this point.
But he ain’t get to where he is without stepping over people. Those people being everybody who was brought up in this beef.
He does have allegations and eyes on about his pedophilic and grooming interactions with young girls, but Kendrick never would have taken it there if Drake, in his hubris, didn’t bring up Kendrick’s wife on pushups. Immediately taking an angle that he thought he could manipulate because we all knew, he knew, he couldn’t fairly take on Kendrick in a rap contest. Kendrick is superior in talent and in practice. Based off general perception not just my opinion btw.
He’s screwed over, and messed with everybody affiliated in this beef. Some like Rick Ross seem to be stemmed in more of a jealousy, but others like The Weeknd are based on Drake using and abusing his power over young artists.
He did help build up artists from all over, A$AP Rocky, Kendrick, so on. Taking them on tours or ding features, but he still burnt bridges because of his ego. And that is what we’ve seen, there is probably hella shit behind media eyes that we don’t know.
I hate drake, simply because I hate what he stands for. Hip hop is what I grew up on and he, even before Kendrick pointed it out, seemed to me, to take from a culture that he’s not apart of, he plays the system well, but it feels like a culture vulture, thus he turned hip hop into what it is today, and maybe I’m just old now but that ain’t how hip hop was back in the day.
Kendrick, J Cole, they are what I see portray hip hop and it’s culture and I prefer them be at the top.
That being said I do think Drake makes great music, he’s done great things for many artists, and I’ll always give him his flowers.
But in this beef, the back and forth, shows why Kendrick is real hip hop and Drake is just trying to be.
Kendrick’s ‘euphoria’ is a master class in writing, ‘6:16’ was a brilliant set up that followed drake’s ‘family matters’ with ‘meet the graham’s’ which even if you remove the daughter verse, was a letter to drakes son, mother, father, and self all expressing the issues with drakes personal values and the possible disgusting things he is affiliated with. Finishing off Drake with ‘not like us’ a club banger that we are all blasting and enjoying compared to the lack luster display Drake presented.
Yes lack luster. He had the potential to beat Kendrick with more than just rap, he could have made catchy hits to let the media blast and silence Kdot, instead he proudly tried to one up Kendrick’s rapping ability with his own.
‘FM’ was a solid diss record but I only remember the allegations of K abusing Whitney, but I can hear “I’m YNW Melly” “cheesing fam” “ion give a fk bout who you hang with”
And of course all the quotes from ‘not like us’
Kendrick beat Drake at his own game and even showed the ability in rap that he also is capable of.
This beef to me just highlighted that Drake never really felt like he was taking it seriously or that it was necessary because he’d always jump back to dissing Rick, Rocky, metro and future, instead of attacking the person who the beef is originally started with.
My thoughts thus far if you made it here are just disappointed in the display Drake approached with, blown away by the display of Kendrick, and happy that all these reaction channels were able to get so much content, for me and them.
That’s a lot of words to just say you hate drake and meat ride Kendrick
You wrote this for a man that’s potentially a women beater
@@Ball_Chat_FCfair point
@@YujinH Nah Bro, you worded your opinion very well. Don't let these TikTok ruined brains make you believe otherwise.
@@Ball_Chat_FCI mostly agree with him here though. How could you defend drake after this??
“YOU were the first one to throw out the ‘you like kids angle” 😭🙌🏻
But what does Ja Rule think
But this is what he was telling us in Meet the Grahams "To any woman that be playin' his music, know that you're playin' your sister Or better, you're sellin' your niece to the weirdos, not the good ones"
Kendrick is suggesting we've been bopping to crazy lyrics and that for ages now from BBL Drizzy, you just said how you felt about Jaded but ultimately we just dont feel comfortable with Kendrick's Not Like Us song because he is so explicit with it. I think that is to prove the point though. He references andre3k in "Like That" who literally has a song during his time with Outkast (Hey Ya!) with super depressing lyrics that made the world dance to this day, yes the material isnt the same but I quote from Hey Ya "Y'all don't wanna hear me, you just wanna dance". I still agree that it is sad though but ultimately Drake wanted people bopping all summer to dave Freeeeeeeeeee and alleged DV so he set the tone for what was to come despite being baited into doing it.
I wouldn't even be mad if it was over. We got great music from both and witnessed history first hand.
For me i definitely understand the feeling of not being able to dance to the song . in the words of Andre 3000 " yall don't wanna hear me you just wanna dance " while at the same time showing he can make a dancing club track . I do think its possible though to listen and watch things and still be aware of the evil that the agents of entertainment may have done despite evidence being present. You also spoke on patterns of behavior which is exactly why people are more inclined to believe the allegations towards drake because of the truth and heavyness of alot of the statements while at the same time less inclined to believe Kendrick abuses his girl , that was on the cover of his album and sung on the other one. But still gives me as a long time kendrick fan a raised eye brow and to be mindful that this can be true.
The heart part 6 is genuinley unlistenable, aint nobody about to bump drake being like "i never touched no teenager"
😂 for real
Amazing take. Love love love how great you've approached this. A lot of the discussion gravitates to like "who won?" and who got got, but not really acknowledging just how heavy all of this is. I understand not applying this feeling to everyone, but it's important to be aware of just how serious these topics are and have that at the forefront of our minds rather than mindlessly swaying to a track
Kendrick finna moonwalk back to retirement😔
Quality over quantity
The conflicting is real. It feels celebratory in a way that I can enjoy for me. I think because it feels like a reset and a shift that’s really needed on a deeper level, even if it has to come in this way and not some sober-minded, serious reckoning. My hope is that it precipitates a necessary shift and maybe even eventually interrupt harm that’s potentially being done.
Ya unfortunately like Shawn said I think most fans just care about the beef and the bops and don’t care about the bigger picture
Crown Kung fu Kenny 👑 im cool wit it ending.....
Kendrick did his thing in this verbal sparring match. Dude put his whole heart into it. Drake slid on family matters fasho but overall ima rock wit Kdot.
The guy who fell for fake info and used it in a diss track as a “gotcha” doesn’t deserve the crown. Y’all bugging
They not like us!
@@Ball_Chat_FCyou not see the video of Drake kissing the 17-year-old on stage?
@@Nick-jr9pcbro tht sht was wild. I was like wtf. Ppl still defend this dude even after seeing tht sht smh...
This video is not only nothing but facts, but this helped me a lot to understand this whole current *situation*. AND you helped me to get a lot of things straight, I really like your videos Shawn 😃
Most honest and unbiased pov in my opinion
I agree 100% about Not Like Us….. but I’m from LA soooooo WE UP 😆😆😆
New sub. Intelligent, articulate, knowledgeable, and hella funny. Not only the best coverage of the beef in my opinion, the most responsible recap.
Big props to Shawn for staying one of the most objective, unbiased, well-thought-out reactors and analysis creators when it comes to music fr
Thanks, man. Other commentators been trying to dumb things down saying it was just a beef, nothing else.
I think Kendrick has one more in him
Im saying. Hes so close to really making a dent in Drakes career. He’s probably being stopped by interscope and threats though
Nope. The party is over now. He’s cutting into the money, so he’s being told to pull the plug.
@@lordbauer5983I don't think Kendrick would give a fuck if that was the case. But that discord screenshot on Twitter got disproven by actual insiders so k could definitely again soon. He is most definitely doing a TON of damage and prying open the whole industry.
I just hope he doesn't get wacked
@@Nick-jr9pcyeah this beef turned hot when bullets hit Drakes house. This the Biggie vs Pac of our time. The cycle of violence continues
It was all over when Yuno Miles stepped in with the BBL Drizzy freestyle. The lyricisim on that track was just too much to handle
8:17 facts. the pattern of Drake's behavior w/ underaged girls would make one reasonably believe that there is maybe *some* truth in what Kendrick is saying & makes his behavior questionable at least from a moral standpoint.
Completely agreed. The night after "The Heart Pt 6" and everything seemed over, I personally felt sick about the idea that we're just gonna move like nothing happened with how serious the accusations are. It leaves me just wanting to know the truth.
The beef is over
I’m glad you were listening consciously because it seems 95% of people weren’t
The subject matter in these got heavy really fast, but I think if people want to celebrate a guy with a widely documented problematic history with minors being "exposed" or at least finally being talked about, I think that's ok. There's a lot of songs out there that have been hits and had serious/dark subject matter from a lyrical standpoint. Kendrick was more blunt about it, but it's nothing new. That being said, if you don't feel comfortable dancing to it or bumping it, then that's fine too. To each their own.
The only winner of this beef is J. Cole. Mans is just chilling while Drake and Kendrick launch nukes at each other
only cole fans think that , bro will never be in no big 3 ever again
@@xxJay20sxxbro also has no allegations against him. What's the point of being in the big 3 when people think you're a wife beater or a child lover?
@@BrandonWhatTheFThe wife beater shit has no proof lmao. We’ve already seen Drake do and say pedo shit before.
@@BrandonWhatTheFThe wife beater allegations aren't sticking for shit
@@Substantial-hf1rm I remember people saying this exact same thing bout Drake's allegations back in 2018
the more I watch shawn's videos I feel like shawn's inner moral compass is really strong.
The minute Kendrick said dear Adonis… the light went off, this ain’t about rap beef
The more I sit with it the WORSE it gets
Shi not over till Ayo & Teo says so🗣️💯🙏🏼
This is the realest take online💯💯💯
That line about “ damn she still look good in her high school pics” from nice for what messed my head up today lmfao this beef crazy. Dot won. It’s Hiphop man it is what it is. Things will be said… there can only be one per era. The king word.. the “a goat” word.. it’s time to give that shit it’s real meaning back in rap . Drake a great artist, I don’t know about the allegations like you said we all gotta make our own decisions about how we feel after looking at everything .
I’m not one to tell someone Drake has no appeal as an artist but you can’t tell me you see him the same after this past week.
The only thing I hate after this week are Kendrick stans
I see his music the same and his music is great to me. Him as a person has changed
@nebula8246idol worship be making people delusional dude hates Kendrick stans but keeps commenting to defend Drake. it’s sad dude too dumb to see the irony
@@Ball_Chat_FC as someone who has never been a huge fan of Kendrick. I mean there’s no denying his talent and intelligence but his music feels like he’s trying to showcase those things more than thinking about how listeners will react to the sonics of what he’s creating for an auditory experience. Drake on the other hand has always created very formulaic battle tested and lab grown hits that embed themselves into your head like crack but have no value or substance whatsoever. Their personas are very similar to their music in this way.
So as someone who’s absolutely not a Kendrick Stan and was relatively unbiased at the start. This is an uncontested win on Kendrick’s part. Complete victory. And will undoubtedly tarnish drakes reputation and legacy forever. As someone who even liked a few Drake songs prior to this I will not be able to listen to him again with a clear conscience.
Nah fr, I fw with a handful of drake songs but now when I hear a drake verse on my playlist I skip it 😂, not outta pettiness either I just genuinely don’t wanna hear it
Big respect for encouraging people to ask themselves the tough questions and live in their truths
Kendrick taught me a whole new level of hating. I got a lot to work on.
Look at diddy, r. kelly, usher, russel simmons and now drake. There’s something weird going on in the industry, and artists have been pointing it out for a long time. You might be conflicted about how the message was delivered, but i think Kendrick needed to package this info as such for people to listen while the whole world was watching. That’s what it takes to expose an open secret.
Kendrick takes the win:
Euphoria > Push Ups
6:16 > Taylor Made
Meet the Grahams = Family Matters
Not Like Us > The Heart Part 6
I would say Grahams was far better than Family Matter, Taylor made might have won over 6:16, but yep, Kung fu Kenny still winning 3:1.
Bruuh.... Meet The Grahams is beyond this, it's one of the most brutal diss tracks ever.
First person shooter vs Like that (1)
Push ups (1) vs Euphoria (1)
Taylor made freestyle vs 6: 16 in LA (1)
Family Matters (1) vs Meet the Grahams (1)
The heart part 6 vs Not like us (1)
2-5 (Kendrick won)
I get that Family Matters was the best track from Drake and you don’t want to just put Drake as losing every one.
Meet the Grahams is in another league from family matters imo. Despite family matters being a good song overall
@@SzathmaryAdam I take points away from FM because Drake takes a whole verse addressing other people rather than making the whole diss about Kendrick. I take points away from MTG for Kendrick rapping about a daughter that *may* not exist; if the daughter is real though, this is the easiest sweep I've ever seen.
Well done! Kendrick ain't playing. He's hammered on the same points in different artistic expressions. He covered the spectrum of how people take in music.
Kendrick himself removed the edited version Elliot Wilson posted of Meet The Grahams with the daughter verse taken off. This is at a time when hes literally granted everyone copyright access and theres Jersey club remixes of his songs on DSPs.
What does that tell you? Hes STANDS on Drake having a daughter that the public doesnt know about!
Do with that info what you will.
I appreciate how clear headed you’ve been this entire beef, especially with all the theatrics. Great video to conclude everything
cole dont got the competitive spirit for beef but im sure he still wanna compete on a song
Between Cole and Dot, Black Friday is the most competition we gonna get lol
@@og_mante5138 unfortunately cause they both gotten a lot better since then
@@imrawnn Yeah, they’ve both grown a lot as artists and lyricists. I think that would’ve made for a better battle. Probably wouldn’t have gotten so personal either.
I think he does but he understood the hateful nature of this beef and wanted no part of it
7:04
I had this same thought while listening to Not Like Us the other day.. Idk if Kendrick did this on purpose or not, but notice how Not Like Us and Meet The Grahams share the same subject with polar opposite tones, and notice how Not Like Us has substantially more views than Meet The Grahams, that illustrates to me that people are so distracted by the spectacle that they're either missing the bigger picture or glossing over it for entertainment, which says a lot about society as a whole. If that's the message Kendrick wanted to get across, this is a genius way of doing it, but the majority of people will miss that.
Beef is over cuz drakes waved the white flag top said it. If Drake came on some hot shit Kendrick would’ve dropped more info on Drake
7:03 I think i can do both. I find myself fully enjoying Meet the Grahams while stocking at work and wishing that Kendrick went even harder. No mercy for false gods.
Yeah it’s time for this shit to calm down no more rap beef from these 2
Felt like Drake was dragging the 20v1 because he didn't have enough to drop a diss focused solely on Kendrick while Kendrick was going to drag what he had doing those counter punches with his drops as long as Drake kept going.
Feel like it would have been cooler if they had just kept it rapping instead of going for personal rumors and slander but Drake had to keep going to Whitney
The biggest thing I hate about this rap beef/battle, is the way Drake is viewed. Drake can literally get on a track, lie multiple times on said track, misunderstand what Kendrick was saying, and have a reputation of doing the things Kendrick said (obviously not the daughter thing because that has not been proven).But in some world and reality the battle is/was considered close. 😑
I understand. Props for staying true to your convictions. You're amazing.
I think kendrick is going to drop again but maybe neither of them say anything else and thats it. Only time will tell but I dont see kendrick letting drake get the last laugh.
Kendrick did get the last laugh because he’s probably laughing at how dumb Drake made himself look in the Heart Part 6
@@TyBoogzzwe need that lil finale something. Too historic of a battle for it to end like this.
@@infrared6973Never jump to help your enemy when they make a mistake.- Sun Tzu
He’s probably letting Not Like Us do the rounds before putting something out there that’ll take our attention away from it. After all there’s no big three anymore to compete against so he has to compete with himself.
BBL DRIZZY 👅👅💅💅💃💃
I liked that Shawn clarified that hypocrisy in music consumption and his reasonings for not fully clicking with Mr. Morale’s themes of trauma and resolve especially as it varies to such degrees who we exempt because of sayings like “separate the art of the artist”. Hopping to a West-Coast banger accusing a serious Epstein-level pedo accusation sits wrong with me too and if allegations are true can only speak to an extent when the person behind the art is being found out and we all now turn the cheek to him despite what voices could have been lost to the vibes we remember Drake for.
13:25 this sums the course of this exchange perfectly
Respect to shawn on this. Basically what I got from this all, is keep the same energy. There’s holes on both sides of this beef and we need to see the receipts. Can’t descredit that Drake showed up to compete and stood his ground but the allegations made against him in this beef are too heavy to overlook. kendrick as well. I can’t see that CLB cover the same. This beef showed that the industry is shady. I think it’s going to be interesting seeing the industry moving forward.
incredible take and delivered in the most reasonable capacity possible; good shit dude