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Step #1, remove as much of the old fluid as possible by utilizing a vacuum canister and a hose inserted down through the dipstick opening. You can then remove the pan without making a mess.
Thoughts on drilling a hole in the stock oil pan to drain it if it's going to be replaced with the new pan with a drain plug anyways... Figured it would be less of a mess.
This is as good, if not better than any other refill procedure I've seen on the 6R80. Most people seem to have leak issues when the copper crush washer is reused on the Dorman pan. I think some guys get a little too excited and losen the plug just to try it before install, then don't change the washer before using the pan.
The only issue I found with this video is the LuMax pump. I purchased a Lu Max pump as you suggested thinking I could finally change my fluid by myself however after about a pint the pump locked up causing I wasn't able to use it. I was so disappointed that this product was totally uselessness for this application. If anyone knows a pump that does work with Motorcraft transmission fluid I'd love to know. Thanks for the informative video at any rate. Keep up the good work.
Before installing the new Dorman drain pan it may be beneficial to add a little bit if thread sealant to the drain plug threads and let that cure for 24 hours or more before installing the drain pan. This should eliminate any fluid leaks through the drain plug threads.
Great video and this was worth a sub. Couldn't one drill a hole in the old trans pan to drain the oil without taking a bath when dropping the pan. I did this on my 99 F150 and then welded a drain plug over the hole.
If you're replacing the drain pan then you can drill a small 1/8 inch hole at the bottom of the old drain pan to drain the fluid out. This way you don't have to deal with messy spill over of the fluid over the back side of the pan when unscrewing the bolts from the drain pan. Since you're not using the old pan any more there should be no issue for drilling a hole in the old pan to drain the fluid. Later on, if you decide to keep that old pan, you can drill and tap a bigger hole to adapt a new drain plug. Also there is a another way to add in the new tranny fluid. You can buy a new dipstick which comes with the metal cap (Cost is about $20). Take the new metal cap and use a dremmel tool to cut off the top of the cap. Make sure to leave a small lip and fit clear tubing over this lip and zip tie it tight. Then extend the tubing up into the engine bay. Stick a narrow tunneled funnel into the tubing and fill from above at engine bay level standing up. Alternatively - you can cut the old dipstick cap and install the new dipstick and cap afterwards. This way is better since you're cutting the old dipstick cap and not the new one. For drilling the old drain pan, you can cover your drill with plastic and just have the drill bit sticking out that way oil will not mess up your drill. Excellent video. Thank you Hope this helps. Russell
Great video and good detail on the work. Question… Would a flush of the fluid be a better worth the time or would this service suffice for a 30k service interval? I like the replacement pan. So much easier if planning on keeping the truck long term and changing the fluids and filter say every 30k. Again great video and thanks for posting it.
If the pan is filthy or fluid is burned then probably. I rather just start off changing fluid and filter in 30000 mile intervals. Price it at your Ford dealer then see if you think it is worth it. I rather not have them touch anything of mine.
Good video friend. The only thing I would add is to check the dipstick when the trans temp gets to it's normal operating temp of about 190 - 205 degrees. That's when it should be in the "B" range of the dipstick.
So when it’s normal operating temp between 195 and 215 degrees should it be between or on the top of B I just want to be exact in other word what is best?
On these transmissions, you really don't want every last drop replaced. There will be microscopic pieces of clutch material that actually help keep the transmission operating properly. For that reason, Ford does not recommend a vacuum style fluid exchange.
Did you loosen the exhaust hangers to get more clearance to the back of the pan? Seems to be lower than mine. If you did, what all did you have to loosen?
Between 6 and 7 is really what you need to have on hand. Remember that it will vary from one transmission to another and depends on pan volume, what has been drained from the transmission, and waste or leftover fluid in the pump bottle. This is where the dipstick really comes in play.
It's not just Ford, but most manufacturers. It's mainly to get vehicles through the warranty period without clueless owners adding the incorrect type of transmission fluid. Many don't have a dipstick at all and must be pumped in through the bottom of the transmission pan. The good ole days of being able to check your fluids under the hood are disappearing. Some manufacturers no longer have engine oil dipsticks!!!
i have 2013 F150 FX4 ecoboost. I wanted to replace oem pan with the dorman pan with a plug, but after clicking on ur link to Amazon, the reviews on it were mostly bad based on fitment issues with filter spout being too long or touching surface and not siphoning fluid due to blockage. Is this true in ur experience? Should i get this pan or keep original?
Plus I used only Ford parts too. Some issues may be from using aftermarket filters missing vital design pieces. This is the first I have heard of any issues.
@@BOSSC351sProductions not so much leakage issue i read, but fitment of the pan with the plug somehow obstructing/restricting fluid circulating thru spout of the filter. On video u seem to be briefly struggling lining up the pan, so was that maybe the filter spout and pan plug getting in the way of each other? did u feel any resistance/pushback when pressing pan flush against casing?
@@BOSSC351sProductions i am placing orders directly from amazon using ur links, so the gasket and filter are from Motorcraft. Thank u for ur reply and for this video.
Im not really sure about the conditions where theirs is leaking. Mine is dry as a bone. I removed the plug and reinstalled it before installing the pan. It does have a copper washer under the head of the plug so maybe they forget the washer or overtighten the plug.
I wanted to show how to properly drain the transmission. I also did not want to drill the pan until I was sure this one worked out. I will probably drill mine and add a plug kit to it and sell it to a buddy.
@@BOSSC351sProductions that actually sounds like a great idea and you could probably do one of those quick valves sometimes used on the oil drain plug... not that loosening/tightening a single bolt is a problem but why not if you have the clearance. You can also slide a hose onto some of them which makes oil catching even cleaner.
This particular 6-r80 design is basically change 2 to 3 times over the entire life of the vehicle. If you don't have Trans oil drips on your driveway, you only need to check it 2-3 times over the course of 10 years. No biggie really.
how much oil did you drain and fill? maybe you say this, but I don’t understand English, I will be grateful if you write and I can translate it, I also have a Ford brought from America with a 6r80 gearbox
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Step #1, remove as much of the old fluid as possible by utilizing a vacuum canister and a hose inserted down through the dipstick opening. You can then remove the pan without making a mess.
If you never changed the lead frame now is the time to do it.
Hate the design of the refilll and dipstick location..
Great video!!
Best video I've seen so far on actual way to check trans fluid and swap filter.
I’m so glad you used motorcraft parts and fluid.
Nothing but Ford parts unless it's an emergency type situation and they are unavailable.
Best video I found for 6R80 fluid change. Thanks my friend!
Thank you!
Thoughts on drilling a hole in the stock oil pan to drain it if it's going to be replaced with the new pan with a drain plug anyways... Figured it would be less of a mess.
Yes you can if you want. Just be careful. Its likely to get all in the drill and make a mess too.
This is as good, if not better than any other refill procedure I've seen on the 6R80.
Most people seem to have leak issues when the copper crush washer is reused on the Dorman pan. I think some guys get a little too excited and losen the plug just to try it before install, then don't change the washer before using the pan.
So far no leaks. I installed a Dorman pain with drain plug on my son's 2007 F-150 and no leaks.
Very nice when I changed mine I wish I got that pan. I also changed my bulkhead sleeve my started to leak.
Just do it next time. I have had this pan for about 4 months. Just now got around to performing the work.
Man, that was a very good video. Easy to follow and explained well the necessary procedures for a DIY, Thank you, Sir...🫡
I don't know why... but my 2010 F-150 4.6 engine truck, have a transmission fluid dipstick under hood... I like it...
Probably a different transmission. Not sure.
The only issue I found with this video is the LuMax pump. I purchased a Lu Max pump as you suggested thinking I could finally change my fluid by myself however after about a pint the pump locked up causing I wasn't able to use it. I was so disappointed that this product was totally uselessness for this application. If anyone knows a pump that does work with Motorcraft transmission fluid I'd love to know. Thanks for the informative video at any rate. Keep up the good work.
I recently got this dorman pan, works good so far I did change the gasket on the plug after seeing some complaints that it leaked.
I saw some of those complaints as well. Mine has been dry as a bone so maybe they resolved the problem.
What type of gasket did you replace it with?
Before installing the new Dorman drain pan it may be beneficial to add a little bit if thread sealant to the drain plug threads and let that cure for 24 hours or more before installing the drain pan. This should eliminate any fluid leaks through the drain plug threads.
Great video and this was worth a sub.
Couldn't one drill a hole in the old trans pan to drain the oil without taking a bath when dropping the pan. I did this on my 99 F150 and then welded a drain plug over the hole.
Absolutely. I just wanted to retain the pan just in case.
Totally agree
Great video. Thanks
great video
Thank you!
If you're replacing the drain pan then you can drill a small 1/8 inch hole at the bottom of the old drain pan to drain the fluid out. This way you don't have to deal with messy spill over of the fluid over the back side of the pan when unscrewing the bolts from the drain pan. Since you're not using the old pan any more there should be no issue for drilling a hole in the old pan to drain the fluid. Later on, if you decide to keep that old pan, you can drill and tap a bigger hole to adapt a new drain plug.
Also there is a another way to add in the new tranny fluid. You can buy a new dipstick which comes with the metal cap (Cost is about $20). Take the new metal cap and use a dremmel tool to cut off the top of the cap. Make sure to leave a small lip and fit clear tubing over this lip and zip tie it tight. Then extend the tubing up into the engine bay. Stick a narrow tunneled funnel into the tubing and fill from above at engine bay level standing up.
Alternatively - you can cut the old dipstick cap and install the new dipstick and cap afterwards. This way is better since you're cutting the old dipstick cap and not the new one.
For drilling the old drain pan, you can cover your drill with plastic and just have the drill bit sticking out that way oil will not mess up your drill.
Excellent video. Thank you
Hope this helps. Russell
Great video and good detail on the work. Question… Would a flush of the fluid be a better worth the time or would this service suffice for a 30k service interval? I like the replacement pan. So much easier if planning on keeping the truck long term and changing the fluids and filter say every 30k. Again great video and thanks for posting it.
If the pan is filthy or fluid is burned then probably. I rather just start off changing fluid and filter in 30000 mile intervals. Price it at your Ford dealer then see if you think it is worth it. I rather not have them touch anything of mine.
Good video friend. The only thing I would add is to check the dipstick when the trans temp gets to it's normal operating temp of about 190 - 205 degrees. That's when it should be in the "B" range of the dipstick.
It was. The roadtest then recheck after is when I reached the proper level.
So when it’s normal operating temp between 195 and 215 degrees should it be between or on the top of B I just want to be exact in other word what is best?
I wonder to drain all the fluid if you can take the case off, turn the truck on and let it all 13 qts drain out that way to do a complete flush?
+There is still a lot of oldoil left in torque converter and oil cooler may need to do this twice to insure all new oil.
Yes there is. 4-5 quarts
On these transmissions, you really don't want every last drop replaced. There will be microscopic pieces of clutch material that actually help keep the transmission operating properly. For that reason, Ford does not recommend a vacuum style fluid exchange.
Did you loosen the exhaust hangers to get more clearance to the back of the pan? Seems to be lower than mine. If you did, what all did you have to loosen?
No I did not. The pan came out just by unbolting it.
If the filter falls out of place. Would we be able to know?
Does the bottom of the pan hold the filter in place ? What holds the filter from possibly just falling out ?
Yes, mine fit that way.
So how many quarts did you add total exactly?
Between 6 and 7 is really what you need to have on hand. Remember that it will vary from one transmission to another and depends on pan volume, what has been drained from the transmission, and waste or leftover fluid in the pump bottle. This is where the dipstick really comes in play.
Unbelievable that ford did this
It's not just Ford, but most manufacturers. It's mainly to get vehicles through the warranty period without clueless owners adding the incorrect type of transmission fluid. Many don't have a dipstick at all and must be pumped in through the bottom of the transmission pan. The good ole days of being able to check your fluids under the hood are disappearing. Some manufacturers no longer have engine oil dipsticks!!!
any update on the transmission pan ?
So far, so good. No leaks whatsoever.
Good video, but, what is the use to change 3.5 quarts out of 13.1.
actually closer to 8
Newbie question. Why wouldn't you use the pump to remove all of the fluid prior to dropping the pan?
I see now that pumping out the fluid would take a long time considering it holds 6 quarts. Best video I've seen on this. Thank you
You could if you had a pump straw and room to get it into the dipstick hole. Up to you.
where did you get the trans pan with the drain plug
Links are in the description under the video.
i have 2013 F150 FX4 ecoboost. I wanted to replace oem pan with the dorman pan with a plug, but after clicking on ur link to Amazon, the reviews on it were mostly bad based on fitment issues with filter spout being too long or touching surface and not siphoning fluid due to blockage. Is this true in ur experience? Should i get this pan or keep original?
I have had 0 issues with mine. 0 leaks.
Plus I used only Ford parts too. Some issues may be from using aftermarket filters missing vital design pieces. This is the first I have heard of any issues.
@@BOSSC351sProductions not so much leakage issue i read, but fitment of the pan with the plug somehow obstructing/restricting fluid circulating thru spout of the filter. On video u seem to be briefly struggling lining up the pan, so was that maybe the filter spout and pan plug getting in the way of each other? did u feel any resistance/pushback when pressing pan flush against casing?
@@BOSSC351sProductions i am placing orders directly from amazon using ur links, so the gasket and filter are from Motorcraft. Thank u for ur reply and for this video.
How’s the pan holding up? Drain plug still ok?
0 issues.
@@BOSSC351sProductions think I might throw one in my mustang next time I drop the pan
Definately will make draining the fluid predictable.👍
@@BOSSC351sProductions what’s the fix people are saying if it does happen to leak? Does the plug have a gasket I assume
Im not really sure about the conditions where theirs is leaking. Mine is dry as a bone. I removed the plug and reinstalled it before installing the pan. It does have a copper washer under the head of the plug so maybe they forget the washer or overtighten the plug.
Inch lbs is 1/12 th of ft lbs fyi
If you’re replacing transmission pan why not drill a small hole in back corner
I wanted to show how to properly drain the transmission. I also did not want to drill the pan until I was sure this one worked out. I will probably drill mine and add a plug kit to it and sell it to a buddy.
@@BOSSC351sProductions that actually sounds like a great idea and you could probably do one of those quick valves sometimes used on the oil drain plug... not that loosening/tightening a single bolt is a problem but why not if you have the clearance. You can also slide a hose onto some of them which makes oil catching even cleaner.
Ford should really be ashamed of themselves for not putting a dipstick and drain plug into these vehicles.
This particular 6-r80 design is basically change 2 to 3 times over the entire life of the vehicle. If you don't have Trans oil drips on your driveway, you only need to check it 2-3 times over the course of 10 years. No biggie really.
You are replacing the cover, i would have drilled a hole into it and drain the oil then. Not all the mess. That's just my idea
I wouldn’t have just in case the pan was a POS and leaked everywhere
@@jamesmanson2152 You can drill with a small bit an install a screw with a rubber washer like you buy at Lowe’s or Home Depot
Drilling the hole is the smart way to drain the fluid when replacing the pan with an after market pan with a drain plug.
how much oil did you drain and fill? maybe you say this, but I don’t understand English, I will be grateful if you write and I can translate it, I also have a Ford brought from America with a 6r80 gearbox