Transmission Fluid Change In 24 Years! How Bad Does it Look? F-150
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- Some folks say not to change the automatic transmission fluid on an older high mileage vehicle like this 1997 Ford F150 with 138K original miles. Changing the fluid and flushing the fluid are two different things. Flushing can push particles of contamination into small orifices and clog them which can cause transmission failure. Draining the old fluid and replacing it with a new filter is more gradual and tends to leave the bad stuff undisturbed. Fresh fluid has properties that improve lubrication and also help to maintain the proper fluid pressure necessary for smooth shifting. This video shows what the first transmission fluid change in 24 years on an Ford F150 transmission. Feel free to leave a comment or question down belowand if you get a chance smash the like button. I appreciate you taking the time to watch the video, thanks! -Glen
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Next time go with Amsoiland a can Of BG ATC conditioner you can put it in anytime and you will notice the difference
I think Wix makes the filters
Pry the filter apart that’s where the metal shavings are at
Good vid
Next time primer and paint the bottom of the pan
good work. My 2008 F150 4x4 has 335,000 miles and the tranny has never been serviced. Remarkable! If it fails today, I've gotten my moneys worth out of this fine crew cab. I'll drop a rebuilt transmission back in and keep rolling. Talk about Ford tough ... I'm impressed.
did it fail or did it help it out?
@@ashtanking3153 Has not failed yet with over 356,000 miles on it as of today and will drive about 400 miles today to the coast.
Is it a 6 speed tranny?
Same my Ford F-150 1995 has 400k and hasn’t been changed but definitely gonna bc previous owner hadn’t
My 03 2wd 4.6 has 370k on it and is just now starting to have issues. It has a bit of a clunk when I’m at a stop and hit the gas and it gets into gear. Otherwise it shifts pretty smoothly.
Great work Glen and glad to hear that she shifts better than before! 😀
It shifts smoother than my bald head. lol Have a good 4th of July!
Man, you keep changing that fluid on schedule here on out like you did today and you'll never have to replace that transmission.
would u recommend i change my 2003 tacomas. it has 171k miles and its never been done no problems thankfully
@@cedricmendoza1305 I had a used 2002 Tacoma but didn't own it long enough to change the transmission fluid. Those are great trucks. It's a Toyota and they are very robust. I would look at it like this: if the damage is already done, then it's a matter of time before it fails, and the new fluid would just speed that along. New fluid is not going to ruin the transmission, it just reveals the wear already in it. Better for it to go when it's in the shop than on the road and leave you having to pay for a tow, and your loss of time, stress of it all, etc. Also, know that the old fluid is only going to get more abrasive if you don't change it, too, which would mean continually increased wear. I would definitely NOT do a transmission flush, but a drop and fill with a transmission filter change to start. I follow a seasoned mechanic who says to keep the old fluid that gets drained out in a clean container when you do the drop and fill. IF by chance the drop and fill causes slipping, drain that new fluid out and replace it with the old fluid and that should stop the slipping. I have read about a guy who had a fleet of Ford work vans. He said he did drop and fills as late as 250k miles on them with no issues. I think it also depends on how hard the vehicles were used and abused. If your Tacoma was driven mostly without hauling or towing and on the highway, then that's easy on the transmission and I'd feel more confident about changing it. If it was used to haul heavy or tow heavy daily and up and down hills and such, then you would have more of a chance that it's worn out and would need replacing. What's the history of your Tacoma?
@@kargo27 this is the best response i’ve ever gotten to this question. my toyota was driven by an older man and then his grandson. he said it was babied its whole life so i highly doubt any towing was involved. the car looks amazing and well kept. the fluid is dark but the advice u gave me is great. i think ill do exactly that. drop the pan and change the filter. while keeping old fluid on hand. i doubt it’d hurt it
@@kargo27 just hoping this things doesn’t start slipping that would suck. but ig if it ends up working the change would be for the better
@@cedricmendoza1305 that's good news on the previous owner! I'd feel more comfortable doing it then. I think you'll be successful with a drop and fill, it's the flushing that knocks crud loose and that crud makes its way into and stops up the passages/channels and that causes overheating and failure. When you do that drop and fill, the tranny has time to slowly dissolve the cruddy deposits so that they don't break off and clog (as I understand it). I've done a lot of research on it and that seems to be the consensus. Good luck, bud!
I liked the safety part
It's my first and most important rule working in the shop
People joke but safety is priority.
the 4R70W seems to be a very reliable unit, we have a 1999 expedition with 400k on the original 4R70W, I just changed the fluid in our 04 expedition with 240k
That is some serious mileage! I was really surprised how good things looked inside the pan. Thanks Trigga
My 97 f150 has 200k, just dropped the pan and it was actually pretty for its age, original gasket and filter in it, i reused the gasket again
@@shaneomac5074did it hurt it ?
did it hurt it?
was it ever changed before ? or was that the first time?
Picked up a 06 with puked 5.4. Lost a bunch of tf changing motor so dropped the t pan. No plug so had been serviced before (160k). Not as clean as yours but not bad. Notably the filter was lying on the pan bottom…..glad I found that issue. Now to see if it holds up???
Great vid! New sub.
@JohnFrytag spounds like you have a big project on your hands! Have fun and thanks for subscribing.
Wow after doing this job on my 2017 with the 10R80 I’m soooo jealous of how freaking easy yours was. 😂 Mine wasn’t horrible but definitely a lot more work than that.
Good video. Simple and Straitforword.
FWIW:
I cut the heads off of 4 pan bolts that are a little longer than the originals and round off the cut ends. I then cut slots into the rounded ends for a screw driver and thread them into the 4 corners of the case. This keeps the gasket aligned as I put the pan back up. The modified bolts sleep in my 'Odds and Ends' plastic case until needed again.
I also disconnect the cooling lines at the radiator and drain the torque coverter.
If replacing all that fluid causes slippage, it simply means I was headed for an overhaul soon anyway.
Again, Good Video......
That bolt guide trick is a great idea Russ! Thanks for sharing and happy shifting. -Glen
If you remove the big black plug on the bell housing. You can turn the torque converter and pull the plug and drain it. That will pull most of the fluid out.👍
You might do a flush. As good as that pan looked, I wouldn't be afraid to do a full fluid exchange on it. I've never had trouble before. Whenever I buy a used vehicle, the first thing I do, is change ALL the fluids. That includes the power steering, flushing the brake lines, as well as the engine oil, transmission fluid, differential (s) oil and even the transfer case.(if FWD) I also flush the coolant, especially, if it looks brown.
Good maintenance is the way to go!
Don't forget about the 3stage decarb treatment
my 03 tacoma has 171k miles. trans fluid has never been changed it’s dark should i drop the pan? or would that fuck it
That pan was really clean with very little grim
Happy to see it, makes me feel tingly inside. TMI haha
Hey, Glen! It's crazy !
I am in a similar situation. I am the only owner of a 1998 Camry LE 4-cylinder, which I got brand new in '97. The car is currently 26 years old with 136,000 miles, and I never ever changed the transmission fluid nor the differential. As of late, when i put the car in drive, it reverses, and other times when it's in drive, the car takes a full minute before it moves, even when I press the gas pedal,it stays in motion. And when the car does drive, it makes a whining noise when I accelerate.
Lots of sources say not to change the fluid because of the age and mileage, but my mechanic says I should change it, even though I never did this service before. All I would do is drain and fill the ATF and differential. I wouldn't flush it, just drain and fill. I am lost on what I should do .
Some say nothing might not get done if I change the fluid because the transmission is done, but I have no idea .
@mc.ashlandfelix7140 fluid is cheap compared to expensive transmissions. I did a second fluid change on the truck in the video and it shifts even smoother now, like it had years ago.
@@ozzstars_cars I appreciate it, Glen! I was just unsure because many people and techs say if I do it, the slipping would get worst because I never did it before. Do you agree with that? The car is almost 30 years old with over 100K miles. And if I do this service, should I have my mechanic drain and fill it twice, or should I have him do that once?
He told me if we go along with the process that I should bring 8 quarts of fluid, which I do not understand why because the transmission drain and fill capacity is 2.6 quarts and the differential capacity is 1.7 quarts .
@mc.ashlandfelix7140 30 year old fluid no longer has the proper additives to work properly. Make sure you purchase fluid that Toyota specifies for your Camry. The filter should be changed also if it is accessible.
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Appreciated!! I did order Toyota ATF , along with a filter and new gasket, but I was on the verge of returning them back after hearing all of the backlash of wasting money and beginning this service so late in the life of the vehicle. Have you done a differential service on your Ford truck, too?
@mc.ashlandfelix7140 I've changed diff gear oil on so many cars over the past 30 years I can't count that high. LoL
Nice! I’m about to drop the pan in my 1995. Was there any reason the geniuses at ford opted to not use a drain plug?😭
Most manufacturers don't, never understood why not.
Now they don't even give you a dipstick. You have to get under the car and remove a fill plug, with the trans warm, and see if the fluid dribbles out.
I like how he’s funny while teaching
If you are talking about me, thanks! 😄
Good video Glen ! I have to do the same thing on my 2001 F150
It's easy Norm, just be ready for that trans fluid shower!
Awesome video brother!
Thank you!
Never think to suck auto gearbox atf out first before filter change REALLY worth effort when depanning sump, to change filters and seals, really stops the mess the rear gear box seal, jet wash it till clean, you be surprised they stop leaking with road dirt and xxxt clean out of back of gearbox seals
Nature's natural stop leak.
Man do I really need to do that..not having problems or anything. But checked it yesterday and not the color I was looking for..no red look..glad I looked at this vid
I got almost 12 quarts, with torque converter drained. The plug is behind the rubber cover.
just needed to drain the t.c if you remove that round plug on the bell housing spin the tc util you see the drain screw
If it hasn’t been changed in more than 100k miles it’s better to leave some of the old fluid in. That grit in the old fluid can help. If it’s been that long and there is no grit left in the fluid it can cause slipping.
@@jubblybits6155no it won’t if it doesn’t something is already wrong with the transmission
Nice work. I'm impressed with the condition of that pan lol
So was I. 138K miles and the truck is used for work, hauls tools and materials.
Nicely done
Thanks. Keeping the old Ford rolling down the road.
Great video! Lots of cool little tips I’ll be sure to use
I appreciate you checking the video out, thanks
Great video, engaging and thorough. Thank you.
You're welcome Peter
Great job!
I've learned troublesome gaskets (though yours wasn't one) can be held in with a few zip-ties and remove them prior to tightening the bolts.
Again, good work! :)
That's a great tip! Thanks for your comment Mike
Why oh why had that never occurred to me. Doh! Thanks
Ford built tough 💪 👍
I can't complain. Hope you had a good Canada Day up there Steve. Cheers
Very Good job Thankyou
Great video, you were more than exceptional in the process.
Thanks Snake!
ADVICE WANTED 🚨 my 03 tacoma has 171k miles and fluid has never been changed. it’s dark. no trans problems right now thankfully. should i drop the pan and change? or just leave it alone . i rlly dont want to mess anything up so i dont know
20+ year old fluid can't be doing very well to lubricate.
@@ozzstars_cars so dropping the pan and changing what comes out with filter can’t rlly hurt it right ?
@@cedricmendoza1305Have you changed the fluid, any problems after, I am in the same situation. Thanks.
Hold dipstick downwards immediately after pulling it so you dont get a false reading
@@Snceday1 or horizontal
Another great video…very helpful.
Thanks Suz
For a transmission wasn’t been derived in 24 years the fluid looks clean.
I was really surprised it looked so clean considering the truck is used for work. The fluid was changed again shortly after and the transmission shifts much smoother.
Great video! Nice work.
Thanks Rock!
Nice video, do you ever drain the torque converter?
yes. In this case I did a double flush since it is my vehicle. Drove about 1k miles then drained and added fresh fluid. The transmission shifts amazingly well now.
Good teacher ! Thanks
Should I change the fluid and filter on my 25 year old Nissan pathfinder I tried Lucas fix slip it helped a little but it still has poor acceleration
Hey, brother! I’ve got a 1994 manual 5 speed f 150. My wife and I just purchased it yesterday. It’s got 170k it. The transmission’s got a major whine when the clutch is let out. I’d like to go ahead and replace the transmission fluid because got knows when or if it’s ever been replaced. Would this be the same way to do the transmission fluid change on our ‘94?
No it's a lot easier. Similar to the way I demonstrate the gear oil change in this 5 speed manual Ranger. ruclips.net/video/QBPjFQp09LQ/видео.htmlsi=wADx6Eul_JZdZSTA
Make sure the whine isn't the throw out or pilot bearing making noise.
@ thank you, sir!
I'm Workin on an f150 with 265,000 on it. The fluid ain't even pink,so it's definitely filter and fluid time.
We call that old and nasty.
@@ozzstars_cars Definitely. This truck needs tlc. The oils filthy too. Smdh.
Dorman makes a transmission Pan with a drain plug That's what I use Or they sell a kit You could drill a drain plug in
Wouldn't it be nice if all manufactures put a transmission drain bolt in.
@@ozzstars_cars yes
@@ozzstars_cars yes
I just check my oil on my truck and its really darker than this one do you think it will help if a do a full flush again.
Last time i just drop the pan change filter an gasket an add new oil
A second fluid change with the correct fluid should make a big difference.
That pan may have been dropped before. There's a yellow dipstick plug that drops in the pan from the factory.
@mmiller1188 it's a plug, not a dipstick. Watch the video again without skipping.
Thank you for the video.
That was a risky call on 24 yr fluid!!
In my 15yr owning my shop working on all makes, I have seen several instances where older cars OR higher mileage dirty fluid changes lead to nearly instant transmisison failure.
If I get a 25yr car with low miles needing its first fluid change I wont even risk it.
If I get a high mileage car with no history and dirty fluid I wont do it unless they insist after my warnings lol.
It's been a while, trans shifts soooo much smoother now.
when i bought my corolla the fluid of the transmission looks like it has not been changed in a minute,dark brownish color which doesnt smell like varnish. 198k motor and trans.
@@JalenRose02 Im not sure I would change it in your case. If its thin like water and brown with no sign of red, thats not great for changing, somewhat risky.
@@ripptydevibes2581 I'm praying to the toyota gods that I'll be alright 💀
@@ripptydevibes2581 my toyota corolla which is a 96 uses a dexron 2 but those don't exist anymore can use a valvo high mileage transmission fluid?
Is the Trans still shifting Glen. Great job on the video very detailed.
haha, I got lucky no happy accidents. Thank you sir
When you want to extract another gallon or so of fluid, and then replace that, can you just siphon it up through the dipstick tube or do you have to drop the pan again?
One way is faster than the other.
Love the poped a cherry comment lol great video
lol
Very well done video explained it very well
Thanks
Very good thank you
U do good work 👍
Thanks Slab!
Why not pump it out through the dip-stick since you are not changing the filter?
To slow of a process and wouldn't be able to access and replace the 24 year old filter.
Awesome vid thank you!
Thanks Jack
How can the oil still lubricate the gears? You should of used the cooler lines to pump it out so the pan will be empty when you remove it. You can try at 205 reseal for that leaking seal. You only got out like 40% of the old stuff opening the pan if you use the cooler line you can remove fluid and add new fluid until its clear red otherwise their is still old crap in their. Don't drop the pan every 1k just use the cooler line.
You have no idea how wrong you are 🤦♂️ He changed it perfectly. You don’t want to take out all of the old fluid genius
@EricKirkland533 only if the fluid was never changed.
I got a 2008 Ford fusion with about 200,000 on it and never had the trans fluid changed,was wondering about a drain and fill but I'm scared it will cause problems with my trans if I do,what's your thoughts
If it shifts okay then leave it alone at this point. It's at the end of its life.
Did you change it? I have same make and model and around same mileage I’m about to do a drain and fill
@@vincentriley8626no I didn't if you do let me know how it goes
@@terrymccluskey8758 just did ny explorer. 195k. Was starting to shift sluggish and fluid was getting dark. New filter and 5 quarts of mercon V. Smooth as silk now. Left the fluid in the converter so partial oil change.
@@rocktech7144did it make it shift better? did it help?
Hey Ozz, is that a DC3 idling in your drive way or just a big a$$ fan? How can you sleep at night running tha same oil for so long!? Well done (again) bud.
Damn neighbor had to start tinkering with his Cessna just when I fire up the camera. lol Thanks man, appreciate you.
I have a 2000 ford expedition 4.6L V8 Triton XLT and just wanted to know if using the ford Motorcraft Transmission fluid and power steering fluid like you just showed is okay.
I didn't know Transmission fluid and power steering fluid was interchangeable like that since I am used to buying mercon v separate.
Always best to look up specs in the owners manual or service info online.
@@ozzstars_cars Exactly. Mine does say Ford Motorcraft mercon v atp
If I change my transmission fluid willl that mess it up or no . I’ve heard that it will Mess it up
@@user-lt6hz7jh2p what's better? Old burnt fluid or fresh new fluid. Decisions decisions.
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Makes sense now
My brothers mug shot was in that same exact shirt. ..
🤣
Do you stick something between the gasket and the pan? Like some goo or something?
No goo necessary, goes in the old fashion way, dry.
@@ozzstars_cars thank you so much
I have a 01 2wd with the same tranny. I bought the truck used with 170,000 miles on it. I changed it myself and it looked horrible. I have no idea if anyone ever changed the fluid and filter. It was full of metal shavings and was thick and brown looking. It had no red tint left. Let’s just say your fluid looks a lot better than mine did 😅
Well now we both have clean red fluid.lol How's your transmission shifting now?
how’d it do after u changed it ?
It’s hard to say if it helped or hurt because I quit driving it as a daily driver and just don’t drive it often anymore. The overdrive flashes on and off. The code it gives when hooked up to an obd scanner is the one for the transmission fluid temp sensor. I’m stumped on what to do for it to fix it. It is a ford only part not produced anymore
Nice Bike.
Thanks
Can we turn on the truck with the pan off so it could drain the rest of the transmission?
I hope
You didn’t do that any moving part with no oil will destroy moving components
i have a 1996 ford f150 5.0 4x4 automatic. it would’ve come with a 4r70w correct?
C6, E40D, or 4R70W.
Hope u ready to buy a new trans bud
@martinsmith6319 not necessary considering it's been shifting smooth as glass for the past 10k miles.
I have a question what do you call that black cicle cap on the side of the pan???? And what is it for
The black what cap? What time stamp in the video?
On the other side of the pan! It looks like a suction type of cap!
Looks like you can drain something also by removing that black circle plug
That's the inspection plug on the bell housing
My 06 camry at 325k had orig starter alternator front end trans fluid and most all besides breaks tires radiator at 300k. Therefore I don't believe in changing fluid trans in my new camry
Good idea, I would agree.
Why would you? It’s at the end of its life anyways. It’s not even worth the cost of a flush lol
So i just checked Advance Auto parts and they showed Dextron and not Mercon? Can you tell me what is the Difference?
Mercon V is what this transmission specs. I don't know what you are working on so can't tell you.
Dextron is GM
Check your dipstick and/or the door sticker. Some of these F150's use Mercon V, and some use just Mercon (which is sold as Dex/Merc since they're the same). Mercon and Mercon V are NOT interchangeable.
What happens if you put more in than came out? Like half a quart?
I wouldn't want to try that.
@@ozzstars_cars im guessing its bad from pressure readings or whatever. I'm getting ready to do it but just curious how or how undevastating
Yeah the fluid is deep purple
Using Amsoil or Purple Royal?
I drain and fill my transmission 3 times That gets out all the old Transmission fluid
You must be rich. That stuff has quadrupled in price.
@@donalddoty5768 It's a lot cheaper than buying a Transmission.
that pan gasket was reusable! all ford pan gaskets like that are reusable!
Not when it's 24 years old.
@@ozzstars_cars no it's still reusable. drain the torque converter when you do a pan change for 100% of the fluid.
Why would you use the old gasket when you can have a new one for a couple bucks? 🤔
@@arthurmomo4406 the oem gasket is very good quality being it is steel/rubber and the aftermarket is cheap quality just rubber or cork.
@@D4x4Bronc but he showed you the new one was rubber and steel by putting the magnet on it
Proof you drive like a grandma👵😏
Well that depends if I'm wearing my Corvette wings or not. lol
How’s that tranny holden up. I’m still debating doing the same service to my 20 yr old vic with 118000 miles.
Shifting smoother than it has in the past 10 years. The 1-2 and 2-3 are so much better.
@@ozzstars_cars Thank you sir, now I’ll definitely will do that service to the tranny… suscribed to your channel to educate, and learn from your videos… one last thing on my Vic I use motorcraft semi synthetic blend 5W 20, along with the motorcraft oil filter 820S. Should I keep using that or change the viscosity to 5W 30 and other brand of oil. Thank you for responding have a good day…
@Pedro Saenz I don't recall many cars back then using 5w20. Most were 5w30 and the owners manual or under hood dipstick should state the proper viscosity.
@@ozzstars_cars ok thank you
and now.....the transmission is gonna start Slipping......LOL
Really?
Fluid that dirty and you didn't flush it?
Drain and refill.
When you flush the fluid is when you start having problems with the transmission. Better to drain and refill couple times till the fluid is fresh again.
@@ozzstars_cars when you say drain and refill do I have to also change the filter each time I do this?
How many times to do a drain and refill, until the transmission fluid is the normal color?
@flowersfam3462 depends how dirty. I usually change the filter once, then next time just change the fluid only.
@@ozzstars_cars Thanks.
1st boom
That Ford 4R70 transmission is larger than your work van Leon.
Well you do have issues with studdering
What are.you talking about? Shudder or stutter?
Speech impediment discrimination lmao
Update? Did it end up slipping?
Nope, smooth as glass. Flushed it a second time, no converter shudder. Very pleased.
@@ozzstars_cars awesome. I guess I’ll do mine. 157k mile toyota pickup I just bought
@Miles-wy1zr drain and fill. Drive 500 miles, do it again.
I guess I'll do my 2000 ford expedition 4.6L V8 Triton XLT with 281k miles now since I saw your video. As a female, your video is easy to follow.😊
@flowersfam3462 with that mileage I would only change the fluid if there was already a shifting issue OR the transmission has had regular interval trans6 fluid changes.
Got a decent leak under the engine. We can't tell if it's oil or transmission fluid because of the age of the transmission fluid.
It's brown semi translucent and about the consistency of oil and transmission fluid.
2003 f150 v8 4.6L 347k miles!
Checked both dipsticks and both show very low. Certainly haven't lost 13 quarts of transmission fluid . Nor have I lost 5-6 quarts of oil. Unfortunately after driving to the store and back, the fluid is all over the damn engine now.
Clean and recheck?
@@ozzstars_cars clean meaning the underneath and engine wipe down to remove splatter?
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