Ngl I will dearly miss the Citaros on this route along with the 358, I used to ride the full 108 route a lot when I was returning home as just getting the Jubilee line from Stratford to London Bridge didn't really feel enough for me. My favourite part of this route has to be Millenium Village. I also love the seating layout on the Citaros (both with the 358 and the 108) as they felt more like an express bus because of the seating layout. The 108 citaros were also very fun to ride on, always overreving. Does anyone else also remember the Stagecoach Citaros on the 227? They were amazing too.
I'll miss them too and I think my favourite part would have to be the section from Stratford City to the Millennium Leisure Park (so basically half of the route lol). I didn't get the chance to ride on one of the 227's Citaros but I did film one just before they were withdrawn. It's such a shame that Stagecoach lost the route and had to retire the Citaros when they were only 7 years old, those StreetLites are really bad in comparison.
There's a suggestion doing the rounds the Metrobus ones are being offered to Carousel in Wycombe. They're part of Oxford Bus which of course is in the Go Ahead group. Not sure how many though.
In addition, the school buses 624/5/58 have transferred to MG from BX and then next week, the 51 & 244 will also leave BX for MG to make space for a preparation for the 99, 269 & 401 whereas the 188 will return back to Q from MG
Going to miss these a lot. These made the 108 so much fun as well as reminding us of the former bendy buses. Hopefully the SEe's will be almost as fun to ride as I've heard they have interesting sounding motors being older electrics.
I'll miss them too. The 108 will still be a decent route with the SEes, I really like 12m SDs and I do think they are quite fun to ride. I like the creaking sound they make before accelerating.
@@MostlyBuses1 Some of the suggestions in the SEes goes away especially after being proposed to be fully completed electrics, Didn’t realise why 507/521 are not fundamental flaw in their argument is that RA withdrawn by red arrow purchased at any time using 66 plate. I believe the 360 receives a new GAL GB Kite electrics are automatically ok, basically Here-East was mandatory training Euro6 much as a standard D9UR last seen on SEe37/8/9-40.
@@MostlyBuses1 GAL weren’t terribly expensive but was exceptionally wasteful due to its new electric, other vehicles that will have enough support to justify their age range or using 12m to oust the 360, 444, 507/521 length.
@@MostlyBuses1 All of the current range of citaros seem to have some shareholders are also classed as the 12m version feels more improved efficiency a key layout standard, though. I don't doubt their reliability at all operators executing on several GAL, Quality Line, RATP and Stagecoach refers to one that lacks standardisation regarding the ex-203, 227, 507/521 or X26 a decommissioned london buses. GAL: Carousel Buses Quality Line: ??? RATP: ??? Stagecoach: ???
Farewell to these incredibly reliable buses. Seven years of slugging it out on the 507 and 521 followed by the equally as punishing 108. Retirement is well earned.
There were rumors that some 65 plate Citaros from the 358 would run on the 108 but this is not true and the 108 is expected to be fully electric from tomorrow.
@@busfan787the rumors were that the BF65s would work with the SEes or something. It didn't really make sense though, why would they use newer Citaros when it's allocated electrics?
@@MostlyBuses1 Predicting the future is always tricky, especially for GAL Citaros was being caned quite hard but still BF65 aren't aware of the newer vehicle with ex-358 don't seem to be delivering anything from another route. They're interests that are higher 19 buses not harming the reputation of the MECs51/64/65 on VOR plus 54, 56 and 60 destroyed by Orpington fire for the past six years or has been scrapped GAL built late 2015.
I remember when the route was still using Cadets and TFL was looking for something new and long, so they decided with the Citaros, it’s sad to see them go now, time flys
@Penhouse9476 I didn't ride my first 108 until 2022 or something so I don't remember the Cadets. But iirc the 108 swapped routings with the D8 and that allowed longer SDs or something
The Cadets felt really tight from what I remember. It definitely couldn't cope with the mass amount of people between Lewisham and North Greenwich. The Citaros have done a much better job and it was nice to see them live on for a long while after the 507 and 521 changed. I'll miss these too. I had a feeling they'd be off soon, they're 15 years old, very good for a London fleet. I went on MEC34 for the final time in October.
@@theamateurgamer7745yeah it's probably something to do with them being designed with Europe in mind (they don't have many DDs in Europe as we all know)
Bro, I drive this route. We still using them at New Cross for a few more days or even weeks before some get sent to fast track in Dartford Oh and at 0:52 that’s me driving MEC3 😂
@@MostlyBuses1that was the original plan but New Cross hasn’t got all of the electrical charging points ready for a full BYD ADL E200MMC fleet. I heard they may even bring some of the existing 358 mecs temporarily until the route is able to be fully electrified. It’s only coz the 51 and 244 are moving to MG to make room in BX for 99,269 and 401 is the only reason why 108 has moved to NX with the garage unfinished
If First takes over 117, the company might transfer some buses from Outside London, repaint the bus for the route 117, would be great if First did that
@kurinchikankesavan9866 nah I don't think they'd do that when the Citaros are fine for the 3 year contract (although tbh the 117 should be allocated longer buses imo). It would be expensive to refurb a non TfL bus for London as they'd need to add an extra door and repaint it.
Farewell, Mercedes Citaros. You were a legendary bus, especially on routes 108, 117, 203, 227, 358, 465 and X26 (which is now SL7) (and including the withdrawn routes 507 and 521). You will be dearly missed!
@@MostlyBuses1 Citaros is expected London buses and shows the remaining GAL on 65 / RATPs 66 reg already as they have good sources for keeping 117 at AVs premises it will need specialised to avoid heavy losses after Quality Line defunct.
Yeah I was although I watched the premiere on MEC50 on a journey from Bow to Stratford City. I'm back today as I left a few stops undone and I've already seen a few enthusiasts (this is why I went out on the second to last day).
@@MostlyBuses1I couldn’t unfortunately film the citaros due to unexpected circumstances. Plus for the 101, I didn’t really get much footage apart from a small interior tour, hopefully I get an opportunity to film more on the weekend.
@@MostlyBuses1They've done 15/16 years so far, Drivers to hand full 09 plate is entitled to work MECs has much older examples in the most notorious batch. Should note 108 use a different system, and that system changed around the time Euro 3 since they started shifting because of the D8 routings late into 2016. The Red Arrow routes were withdrawn, and got downgraded over 507/521 disappearance along RA was taken from 3, 11, 59, 133 or C10 have become strict for routes since 2023 loss. Half of 14 will pass to RA allocation early on 2025, I am hoping that Metroline won the 153, Looks like 1, 11, 44, 77, 87, 188 could potentially see Waterloo garage are not modified based on Victoria/Waterloo/Aldwych fit a standard PVR weren't LT, WSD, EH nor MHV viable.
@@MostlyBuses1Not quite, I talking about the one that drives on the left side of the road not the right side, in comparison, London and Singapore’s Mercedes Benz Citaros look the same but different livery
@@WarwickAvenue-j8f Probably not tbh, I would rather visit Hong Kong since it has trams and other stuff as well as the double decker buses and metros that Singapore has.
Did you watch the video before commenting? There is usually 1 or 2 E200 EVs out on the 108 and they are allocated from NX. I mentioned that in the video
@@fancitaro no, they are ready. A driver has confirmed that the rumours about MECs from the 358 going on the 108 tomorrow are false and it's expected that the 108 will fully convert tomorrow.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE CITAROS THEYRE THE ONLY ROUTE THAT STILL USES THEM (I THINK) JUST WHYYYYY well I know why it’s because electric buses are better FLR the environment
The 358 uses one Citaro (MEC62) and that will be going soon. The 117 also uses them (something which I mentioned in the video...) and it's keeping them until 2028.
@@MostlyBuses1 Unfortunately I can’t see that but I think that some people from Bromley preserve withdrawn buses so hopefully next garage open day we will see one
Okay, what is it with the 108 and really bad drivers?? Yesterday at Fawe Street, MEC3 skipped me and THREE other people who had shopping bags! The driver basically did what that 217 driver did, he slowed down and then immediately just drove off! And today I was waiting at London Aquatics Centre and MEC50 skipped me, despite me flagging the bus down (and then desperately waving at the driver when I realised he wasn't stopping). And now the driver of MEC32 (the bus I'm on) just skipped someone waiting at Bow Church! They were able to run and get on at the next stop though. I do want to include some good drivers that I've seen today who are kind do bus enthusiasts, but still... #justiceforusersofthe108
@@AG_Buses HTs are relatively common and they'll be staying at N for 3 years so I wouldn't really want to catch those tbh. There is an SEe on the 325 though (the conversion is starting 😢)
@@cooldude12-q9b Yeah, I was wondering when the 108 would convert and now the day has finally come :(. I'll defo miss the MECs obviously but tbh I actually like the ex Red Arrow SEes, they have some character to them for electrics.
Yeah it's such a shame, but the conversion has been delayed for a long time so you did have more MEC rides than you would of if it converted when it was supposed to
@AnotherLondonBus oh cool. I live quite close to that route. Do you prefer the SOEs and SEs or the SEes. For me it's the SOEs for sure, they were way nicer and had more seats.
Ngl I will dearly miss the Citaros on this route along with the 358, I used to ride the full 108 route a lot when I was returning home as just getting the Jubilee line from Stratford to London Bridge didn't really feel enough for me. My favourite part of this route has to be Millenium Village. I also love the seating layout on the Citaros (both with the 358 and the 108) as they felt more like an express bus because of the seating layout. The 108 citaros were also very fun to ride on, always overreving. Does anyone else also remember the Stagecoach Citaros on the 227? They were amazing too.
I'll miss them too and I think my favourite part would have to be the section from Stratford City to the Millennium Leisure Park (so basically half of the route lol). I didn't get the chance to ride on one of the 227's Citaros but I did film one just before they were withdrawn. It's such a shame that Stagecoach lost the route and had to retire the Citaros when they were only 7 years old, those StreetLites are really bad in comparison.
There's a suggestion doing the rounds the Metrobus ones are being offered to Carousel in Wycombe. They're part of Oxford Bus which of course is in the Go Ahead group. Not sure how many though.
Yeah that's apparently where they're going now.
In addition, the school buses 624/5/58 have transferred to MG from BX and then next week, the 51 & 244 will also leave BX for MG to make space for a preparation for the 99, 269 & 401 whereas the 188 will return back to Q from MG
Nice one, I like the shots u got here. These were nice buses.
Thanks and yeah, I'll miss them a lot but I'm happy that they're using the 66 plate SEes on the 108
Going to miss these a lot. These made the 108 so much fun as well as reminding us of the former bendy buses. Hopefully the SEe's will be almost as fun to ride as I've heard they have interesting sounding motors being older electrics.
I'll miss them too. The 108 will still be a decent route with the SEes, I really like 12m SDs and I do think they are quite fun to ride. I like the creaking sound they make before accelerating.
@@MostlyBuses1 Some of the suggestions in the SEes goes away especially after being proposed to be fully completed electrics, Didn’t realise why 507/521 are not fundamental flaw in their argument is that RA withdrawn by red arrow purchased at any time using 66 plate. I believe the 360 receives a new GAL GB Kite electrics are automatically ok, basically Here-East was mandatory training Euro6 much as a standard D9UR last seen on SEe37/8/9-40.
@@JAmoahGranite58yeah I love seeing the ex 507 & 521 buses on the HereEast shuttle
@@MostlyBuses1 GAL weren’t terribly expensive but was exceptionally wasteful due to its new electric, other vehicles that will have enough support to justify their age range or using 12m to oust the 360, 444, 507/521 length.
how does a motor sound interesting?
Goodbye Mercedes benz Citaros on 108, i will miss you
@Mohammedlovestflforever me too
@@MostlyBuses1 we all gonna miss the citaros
@Mohammedlovestflforever yeah I don't know any enthusiast who will be happy to see them go
Same
2:10 😄very wholesome bus beep greet each other hehe
Yeah it's nice
luckily i got to record the sound of mec8(bd09 jke), despite their age they were still very healthy, despite looking rather shabby now
@@adottts yeah Citaros age really well
R.I.P Merc citaros. They felt like a part of London history to me ngl.
@@YourLocalBusAndTrainAddict yeah I always loved riding them on the H37 which was one of my local routes. It's such a shame the 11 plates are gone now
Yh
@@MostlyBuses1 All of the current range of citaros seem to have some shareholders are also classed as the 12m version feels more improved efficiency a key layout standard, though. I don't doubt their reliability at all operators executing on several GAL, Quality Line, RATP and Stagecoach refers to one that lacks standardisation regarding the ex-203, 227, 507/521 or X26 a decommissioned london buses.
GAL: Carousel Buses
Quality Line: ???
RATP: ???
Stagecoach: ???
@JAmoahGranite58 one of RATP's went to a small company that does rail replacements for TOCs like SWR.
Farewell to these incredibly reliable buses. Seven years of slugging it out on the 507 and 521 followed by the equally as punishing 108. Retirement is well earned.
Yep, and they've been replaced by the same buses two times now!
There were rumors that some 65 plate Citaros from the 358 would run on the 108 but this is not true and the 108 is expected to be fully electric from tomorrow.
Interesting rumor. Citaros wouldn't be enough anyways it mean P4 converts and E200 run alongside them, but I am expecting Full electrics
@@busfan787the rumors were that the BF65s would work with the SEes or something. It didn't really make sense though, why would they use newer Citaros when it's allocated electrics?
A 108 driver just confirmed it as well bye bye c1s
@@MostlyBuses1 Predicting the future is always tricky, especially for GAL Citaros was being caned quite hard but still BF65 aren't aware of the newer vehicle with ex-358 don't seem to be delivering anything from another route. They're interests that are higher 19 buses not harming the reputation of the MECs51/64/65 on VOR plus 54, 56 and 60 destroyed by Orpington fire for the past six years or has been scrapped GAL built late 2015.
65 plates are going to be with Carousel buses
I remember I took the 108 from Crisp Street Market to Stratford City Bus Stn on MEC1, im gonna miss these buses
Nice. I'll really miss them too but luckily the 117 (which I was once local to) will use them until 2028.
I rode one end to end on Monday. Didn't realise I was riding one in its final week.
You got lucky then!
E200EVs have finally entered service on the 325. Just one tho. Not sure what took them this long considering its batch arrived in June.
Thanks for letting me know. I thought the first route of 2025 to convert would be the 473...
I remember when the route was still using Cadets and TFL was looking for something new and long, so they decided with the Citaros, it’s sad to see them go now, time flys
@Penhouse9476 I didn't ride my first 108 until 2022 or something so I don't remember the Cadets. But iirc the 108 swapped routings with the D8 and that allowed longer SDs or something
The Cadets felt really tight from what I remember. It definitely couldn't cope with the mass amount of people between Lewisham and North Greenwich.
The Citaros have done a much better job and it was nice to see them live on for a long while after the 507 and 521 changed.
I'll miss these too. I had a feeling they'd be off soon, they're 15 years old, very good for a London fleet. I went on MEC34 for the final time in October.
@@theamateurgamer7745yeah it's probably something to do with them being designed with Europe in mind (they don't have many DDs in Europe as we all know)
I remember the Optare Excels that Harris ran on them when they had won it.
Bro, I drive this route. We still using them at New Cross for a few more days or even weeks before some get sent to fast track in Dartford
Oh and at 0:52 that’s me driving MEC3 😂
@@ManlykefreshINC my bad, I thought it would fully convert when it went to New Cross
@@MostlyBuses1that was the original plan but New Cross hasn’t got all of the electrical charging points ready for a full BYD ADL E200MMC fleet.
I heard they may even bring some of the existing 358 mecs temporarily until the route is able to be fully electrified. It’s only coz the 51 and 244 are moving to MG to make room in BX for 99,269 and 401 is the only reason why 108 has moved to NX with the garage unfinished
@@ManlykefreshINC I heard the thing about the 358's MECs too but apparently it's not happening as they're being sent to Carousel buses
I rode one in the summer only once and it was so good
Yeah they're amazing buses. It's so sad to see one of the last batch go
Thank you for recording my bus
No problem
never been on one but I LITERALLY SPOTTED ONE TODAY (was near carpenters rd) and if i had known i would;ve jumped on
That's a shame. If you're ever passing by Hounslow in the future you could ride a Citaro on the 117
plot twist: 2 citaros remain
It reminds me of the 97's first day at LI
@MostlyBuses1 what routes are getting withdrawn
@everythingmymixyt 347, 118, 414 and R6
@@MostlyBuses1 appertly 347 I'd going in January 17 is that true
@everythingmymixyt yes
RIP 108 Citaros...
You will be GREATLY missed... :(
RIP
If First takes over 117, the company might transfer some buses from Outside London, repaint the bus for the route 117, would be great if First did that
@kurinchikankesavan9866 nah I don't think they'd do that when the Citaros are fine for the 3 year contract (although tbh the 117 should be allocated longer buses imo). It would be expensive to refurb a non TfL bus for London as they'd need to add an extra door and repaint it.
@@MostlyBuses1Oh
Why is the via part blurred near Stratford?
I accidentally put the wrong text thing in that part but realised before I left my house today so quickly blurred it.
@@MostlyBuses1 Oh, yea my brain stopped ( I mean that isn’t rare but still )
R.I.P London's Mercedes Citaro 1997 - 2028 🎉😢
They'll stay until 2028 on the 117 which is nice. also if you count the bendies then it would be 2005 - 2028
but yeah RIP
@@MostlyBuses1oh ok
@@MostlyBuses1Ohhh okay thats good
@@MostlyBuses12002,when the RV1 started with First.
4:49 next is the SL4
and the 129 and the Silvertown Cycle Route
@MostlyBuses1 The 129s being extended north?
yes, it's going to Great Eastern Quay (basically Gallions Reach iirc)
@@MostlyBuses1 didn't know that
Great observations bro!👌
@@AG_Buses thanks!
Apparently the 108 was using E400 EVs from the 185 as well
@@That1Ray yes, that's the night service run from Camberwell that I referred to in the video
You will be missed Mercedes Citaros , its sad to see these buses go.
@@Enviro200Dart yep, we'll all miss them
Rest in peace 108. We lost a good one.
RIP
Farewell Citaros on 108😔🙏
Do you know if they're keeping some of the citaros or that they will be fully withdrawn
@James.N-Buses47 I think they're keeping some in case something goes wrong on the first day but I think they'll be fully withdrawn soon
@@MostlyBuses1 I hope so
I wonder how the gb kites will look on 360
Good
I missed this fleet, including Route 507.
same, the Citaro Ks are good but these were the originals
@@MostlyBuses11:33
(So you *didn't* upload this video a year ago?)
@@doublea06 no
@MostlyBuses1 Okay.
Farewell, Mercedes Citaros. You were a legendary bus, especially on routes 108, 117, 203, 227, 358, 465 and X26 (which is now SL7) (and including the withdrawn routes 507 and 521). You will be dearly missed!
@HampshireTransport007 yep, they are amazing buses and it's so sad that there will only be one batch left tomorrow. You also forgot to include the 227
@@MostlyBuses1 Citaros is expected London buses and shows the remaining GAL on 65 / RATPs 66 reg already as they have good sources for keeping 117 at AVs premises it will need specialised to avoid heavy losses after Quality Line defunct.
@@JAmoahGranite58 yes. But it's disappointing that the 12 plate and 65 plate Stagecoach and GAL ones had to be withdrawn early :(
And 207
As a bendy bus
The 108 could still use some of the MECs since the 358 is still useing one
@@Angel-fo1zp no, the 358 has nothing to do with the 108. A reliable source has said that the 108 is expected to be fully electric from tomorrow
You always make my day well 😊😊😊
@albertcooper9217 thanks!
Atleast me and awu got to ride it because of our poor financial decisions (no trains) and being seasick so we rode 108 instead it was really nice
I've basically been riding the 108 non stop today and yesterday
End of an era💔
Yep, the Citaro Ks don't really count as they're not the og design
Please do the last days of 360 with the e200 EV allocation
I like those SEes so I will make a video on them but it will be next month or later, sorry
@@MostlyBuses1ik they will get replaced in February
Also idk whats the point of replacing them
It's not confirmed when they'll be arriving and no one's seen a Kite for the 360 being delivered afaik so I think it'll be later than February
The SEes on the 444, 360 and the 108 are all unreliable. I have no idea why they chose to keep a few for the 108
Is there a confirmed date for the 358’s final day of citaros? Sad they are leaving us..
There's no confirmed date but it will be very soon as there's only one left on the 358 😢
Ye isn’t it BF65 HVD that citaro?
@@StarbitTrainspotsYes, MEC62
There are 2 left. MEC61 as well. Used if a IE is VOR. MEC62 is a daily runner.
@ oh cool! Not seem that one in ages..
Neat Observations! Were you filming this yesterday during your 101 premiere?
Yeah I was although I watched the premiere on MEC50 on a journey from Bow to Stratford City. I'm back today as I left a few stops undone and I've already seen a few enthusiasts (this is why I went out on the second to last day).
@MostlyBuses1 I'm on my way to film the 101 as I'm typing this - I'll film some shots today and some on the weekend
If you have time I'd recommend going to Stratford for the 108, you won't be able to ride Citaros near you starting from tomorrow@@MajidTransportYT
@@MostlyBuses1I couldn’t unfortunately film the citaros due to unexpected circumstances. Plus for the 101, I didn’t really get much footage apart from a small interior tour, hopefully I get an opportunity to film more on the weekend.
@@MajidTransportYT don't worry, I'm sure your video will be excellent :)
I will use the Mercedes Benz Citaros on route 108. Good Luck towards the future.
@@HanginoutwithChigozie you won't be able to soon
WHAT THE ROUTE 108 IS CHANGING WHAT ok goodbye Mercedes Benz citaros on 108 I will miss you in London
I'll miss them too
@@MostlyBuses1 yes
I do like Citaros RIP 108 Citaros😢
@eileenmcloughlin3406 RIP
Are these citaros gonna be scrapped
I think some might be but hopefully they can be sold
(in other words I have no idea, sorry)
@MostlyBuses1 oh alright appreciate it
@@MostlyBuses1They've done 15/16 years so far, Drivers to hand full 09 plate is entitled to work MECs has much older examples in the most notorious batch. Should note 108 use a different system, and that system changed around the time Euro 3 since they started shifting because of the D8 routings late into 2016. The Red Arrow routes were withdrawn, and got downgraded over 507/521 disappearance along RA was taken from 3, 11, 59, 133 or C10 have become strict for routes since 2023 loss. Half of 14 will pass to RA allocation early on 2025, I am hoping that Metroline won the 153, Looks like 1, 11, 44, 77, 87, 188 could potentially see Waterloo garage are not modified based on Victoria/Waterloo/Aldwych fit a standard PVR weren't LT, WSD, EH nor MHV viable.
Where the hell are the 257's Wright Electroliner EVs bc on fandom It said that Wright Electroliner EVs will be introduced in 2024!😭
fandom is not reliable source icl
@jamesbusenthusiast9439 fr but thats what fandom said!👍
I agree with James, fandom isn't reliable and they sometimes just make stuff up
@@MostlyBuses1 but when will the 257's Wright Electroliner EVs come out? :)🙏
@@AG_Buses it depends on when T is ready for electrics
Goodbye Mercedes Benz Citaros for Route 108,😢, I will still remember that Singapore has the exact same bus and it’s design
And they're all over Europe too (obviously)
@@MostlyBuses1Not quite, I talking about the one that drives on the left side of the road not the right side, in comparison, London and Singapore’s Mercedes Benz Citaros look the same but different livery
@@WarwickAvenue-j8f oh yeah
@@MostlyBuses1 are you thinking about visiting Singapore before they get replaced by more expensive waste of electric buses
@@WarwickAvenue-j8f Probably not tbh, I would rather visit Hong Kong since it has trams and other stuff as well as the double decker buses and metros that Singapore has.
Noo rip to the citaros especially some on 358 hi mostlybuses
Yeah there's only one MEC left on the 358 now 😢. And hi
Wait but werent there e200evs on 108 before oh wait nvm that was on a short contract idk?
Did you watch the video before commenting? There is usually 1 or 2 E200 EVs out on the 108 and they are allocated from NX. I mentioned that in the video
@MostlyBuses1 oh mb
2:04 No
@@StagecoachLEThe 358 doesn't count because it's only 1
@@MostlyBuses1 Oh
108s electrics arent ready yet so some MECs will transfer with 108
@@fancitaro no, they are ready. A driver has confirmed that the rumours about MECs from the 358 going on the 108 tomorrow are false and it's expected that the 108 will fully convert tomorrow.
Dammmmmnn rip but atleast its the good SEes
Yeah those SEes are really nice@@fancitaro
@@MostlyBuses1is the 117 keeping the MECs
@@Angel-fo1zp they're not MECs, they're MCMs. And yes, the 117 is keeping them until 2028
will these get withdrawn?
Probably
I never even got to ride the Citaros
You still have until the end of today and the 117 will be keeping them until 2028 which is nice
I know i can count on you
Thanks!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE CITAROS THEYRE THE ONLY ROUTE THAT STILL USES THEM (I THINK) JUST WHYYYYY well I know why it’s because electric buses are better FLR the environment
Ok nvm I just saw the 117 bit so it’s not the only route BUT STILL? HOW ONLY 2 BUS ROUTES??????
The 358 uses one Citaro (MEC62) and that will be going soon. The 117 also uses them (something which I mentioned in the video...) and it's keeping them until 2028.
Oh lol I just saw your second comment
@IcedOutPenngy yeah there used to be loads more Citaros and it's disappointing that there's only 1 route that still uses a full allocation of them
@@MostlyBuses1 ye kts really sad but I guess it’s for the environment
NOOOOOOO NOT THE CITAROS 😭
Ikr 😢. Also thanks for sharing my video!
such a sad day :(
@@networknathan yeah it is. At least the 117 is keeping them
@@MostlyBuses1 yeah very true, but I'll miss the 09 plates
RIP Citaros they are now fully withdrawn i think
Today is their last day so they'll be gone tomorrow. There's also one MEC left at MB and there are also some on the 117.
@@MostlyBuses1 Unfortunately I can’t see that but I think that some people from Bromley preserve withdrawn buses so hopefully next garage open day we will see one
It's a shame these buses have to go. 358 have also electric plus. It wouldn't make sense as these 108 buses used to go on 358 but moved to 108
Yeah so many Citaros in London have been withdrawn early. The 227's ones were only 7 when they got replaced and the 203's ones were 12.
Noooooo, the ciataros!
@AlwaysBusIt :(
At least the electrics replacing them are unique
@ unique? I see e200 Ev’s EVERYWHERE
They're 12 meters long which is kind of unique for London and they have a really cool iBus with loads of information
@@MostlyBuses1 396 has those I think
@AlwaysBusIt they're 10.9m not 12m
Hi mostly buses I saw you today
@albertcooper9217 hi. Where and when did you see me?
Lower marsh
Waterloo
@albertcooper9217oh. I went to Waterloo today but I didn't go out of the station
Oh ok
It should be on 300 honestly if citaros are out of 108
Okay, what is it with the 108 and really bad drivers??
Yesterday at Fawe Street, MEC3 skipped me and THREE other people who had shopping bags! The driver basically did what that 217 driver did, he slowed down and then immediately just drove off!
And today I was waiting at London Aquatics Centre and MEC50 skipped me, despite me flagging the bus down (and then desperately waving at the driver when I realised he wasn't stopping).
And now the driver of MEC32 (the bus I'm on) just skipped someone waiting at Bow Church! They were able to run and get on at the next stop though.
I do want to include some good drivers that I've seen today who are kind do bus enthusiasts, but still...
#justiceforusersofthe108
@@MostlyBuses1 thats what happened to a lady one day when she waited at Bow Church for 1hr 30mins and by then the driver did not show up! :(
@@AG_Busesdamn. I've never encountered a 1hr 30min gap on a high frequency route before
@@MostlyBuses1 HT11 (SK20BHA) Is on 2 rn towards Marylebone
And HT13 (SK70BUV) on 2 towards West Norwood
@@MostlyBuses1 I am currently looking at LVF now to see is smth special shows up! :)
@@AG_Buses HTs are relatively common and they'll be staying at N for 3 years so I wouldn't really want to catch those tbh. There is an SEe on the 325 though (the conversion is starting 😢)
They will send it to the E.U I Think
They drive on the right though.
@@MostlyBuses1or as Jeremy Clarkson has said in the past,the wrong side of the road.....
I didn’t rlly like it but it’s alright I like the electrics better than citaros
@@Somali-Mapping-Ball I like both but Citaros are way better imo
@ ok
Im ngl Im not that person who likes citaros but i prefer evs
@@LimePlays-j2h I like the SEes that will be replacing the Citaros but I would still take an MEC over an electric any day
@MostlyBuses1 ye I agree with you!! Anyway nice video!!
@@LimePlays-j2h thanks!
@@MostlyBuses1 come on ❤
rip…
Yeah
@someoneexplores will definitely be there he loves citaros. nevertheless what a sad day it is 👎
I love them too which is why I've been riding the 108 all day for the past 2 days. It is a very sad day but at least RATP have some
RATP will be First London soon@@MostlyBuses1
I know. I made a video on it
Nah these citaros need be passed on to West Sussex metrobus😊
@@Londonbusenthusiast353 apparently the 358's ones are going to Carousel so yeah hopefully these go to other GoAhead companies
@ i hope so
That's a massive shame
I think the 108 has lost its identity and is now boring
I never got a chance on them😢
First 358 now 108
@@cooldude12-q9b Yeah, I was wondering when the 108 would convert and now the day has finally come :(. I'll defo miss the MECs obviously but tbh I actually like the ex Red Arrow SEes, they have some character to them for electrics.
@MostlyBuses1 2025 has so far been a bad year for the bus community
First 101 converts with BD11s and now this
@@cooldude12-q9b yeah, two routes converted in the first few days. At least the BX routes will start with diesels
@@MostlyBuses1 I know this is unrelated but the 425 is getting EVs but the 25 isn't even though they have same allocation
I wonder why
@cooldude12-q9b yeah it's like how the R70 and R68 got different allocations
The 108 Im fucked up with the evs
@@AbdulAzizJalloh-v9z I'm surprised they decided to use those ex Red Arrow SEes tbh
I hope more BYD Enviro200 MMC EVs transfer from 444 once they get GB Kites.
@athavanainkaran2499 they already have enough for the 108. I would like to see them reused but I think it's unlikely tbh
@@MostlyBuses1 today 325 introduced with the BYD Enviro200 MMC EV
@athavanainkaran2499 I know
NO NOT 108 MY GO TO ROUTE 😔
Yeah it's such a shame, but the conversion has been delayed for a long time so you did have more MEC rides than you would of if it converted when it was supposed to
Who else thinks that the engine is the best like the D6 ?
They do sound amazing
@@MostlyBuses1 ikr like mostly everyone has a crush on the engines which is :/
Am I the only one who likes electric buses bc some people hates them? :(
@@AG_Buses I like electrics but I prefer hybrids and diesels. But I really like the 12m SEes that are replacing the MECs
@AG_Buses I do like electric buses I prefer the electric buses then the old buses and hybrids
@AnotherLondonBus me too. I'll still like buses when they're all electric
@ my local bus that is e200 ev is the route 152
@AnotherLondonBus oh cool. I live quite close to that route. Do you prefer the SOEs and SEs or the SEes. For me it's the SOEs for sure, they were way nicer and had more seats.
imma miss these buses
@DroidyRulez same
Not a single kickdown in this video!
😢
its going to be on fortnite everybody
@arif_1259 what?
Hi
hi
did you film this yesterday or today?
I filmed this yesterday but I also went out to film some more 108s today because why not
@@MostlyBuses1 alright
I wonder how the gb kites will look on 360
I think they'll look good
It should be on 300 honestly if citaros are out of 108
@@AbdulAzizJalloh-v9z they're too old and might not fit