Absolutely brilliant. Not a single ball hit but every word spoken is pure gold when it comes to increasing distance. Thanks so much for your wisdom and honesty.
Thank you for this explanation. I attended a LPGA tour event in California and I was impressed how far the petite Asian golfers we’re hitting the ball. They were not swinging as fast as my 36 year old 170 pound male frame but were hitting their drives further than mine. What they all had in common were strong powerful thighs and calves, which is much easier to see on the LPGA tour because of their attire. This reinforced my commitment to attaining stronger legs and calves while maintaining extreme flexibility for my golf swing. When I first started playing golf in the mid-1990’s I applied the lessons of Jimmy Ballard to my golf swing and it’s very similar to what you teach and emphasize with lower body strength and weight shifting through the ball. When I’m swinging well I often walk through my shots firing my right side like Gary Player.
My pleasure on the explanation. Thanks so much for sharing the story and contributing. I really appreciate it. Yes I remember Gary Player and his walking through the shot idea. I remember seeing him talk about how he really made sure he does it on uphill shots to ensure that he gets his weight transferred, but that it’s also good to practice this on of full shots. Interesting you would mention the petite Asian golfers on the LPGA. They are who inspired me to search for a more efficient and effective swing many many years ago. To see somebody who’s only 5 foot five and 115 pounds soaking wet in a 265 yard Drive told me that there had to be a better way to swing the club for us men than what we had been taught. I studied the swings of many LPGA players, and learned so much from them. I also noticed that many of them are using the Mike Austin hand action. If you watch the KLPGA, you’ll see the Mike Austin swing is predominate on that tour.
What a great swing thought on the tee - 80%. Or for any club come to that, timing and tempo every day of the week for creaming the shots and plenty of distance 💪. Great video thank you
I’m a 60yo , I once hit a 300 yd drive and I can tell you now my club head speed has never reached more than 100 mph I average 235 yds it was a mystery how I did it . I definitely by accident just swung the club perfectly .I’m now on a quest to do it again thanks for the video 🙏
Agree with the thesis of this video. Hitting the ball in the center of a square clubface on the right path is job #1. Without that, a higher swing speed just means your ball goes further into the woods.
As a senior my swing has slowed dramatically. Distance dropping also off the tee. I have gone to senior flex shaft and a larger weighted head with a 9.0 lift. I tee it high but my flight is lower with over spin for additional role. These changes have given me back 15-25 yards back to my game. The slower controlled swing gives me more fairway views also. My partners call me the rock slinger now.
Max, thanks for sharing. I love that you went to a 9° loft. Most club fitters instructors advise seniors to go to higher lofted drivers which I think is a mistake. One thing to take note of if you experiment he will find that the higher, your tee the ball, the lower your trajectory will be the lower you tee your ball the higher your trajectory will be. If you want to gain a little more height, tee the ball a little lower. But if you’re happy with your current ball flight, don’t make any adjustments.
Thank you for the video, I was just fitted and the fitter insisted I needed a regular flex. I have very strong legs and an athletic build. Just don’t have the flex to crated a fast club head speed.The fitter never figured my strength into the mix. Needless to say, the new clubs with the recommended reg flex made me look like a new golfer, could not hit anything straight. Went back to my stiff shafts and my 8 iron is 160. Thought I was loosing my mind until I saw this video.
Oh my! I am so glad I was able to help restore confidence in your own sanity! I learned years ago how to fit myself, how to change out shafts, ferrules, grips. The only thing I don't have the right equipment for is loft and lie changes, but when I did need that done, I told the tech what specs I wanted. I don't really trust fitters...sorry for any fitters out there who read this.
Really enjoyed the video but there is no getting away from physics. Distance is a fundamental consequence of speed (F=ma) although it is more correct to talk about ball speed and not swing speed. However your observations are spot on. Most people do not maximise their distance out of what they already have and would see much better (and safer) gains by focusing on that.
The things that determines distance is ball speed, launch angle and backspin. Every long driver knows this. Given optimal contact, the only way to increase ball speed is to increase swing speed. Reducing spin and optimizing launch angle has to do with loft and angle of attack. You're not completely wrong, how you swing you club can greatly affect contact and backspin giving you more distance. In the end though you will hit a plateau and have to increase swing speed if you wanna hit it further.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. Your golf ball sitting on a golf tee has zero ball speed, zero spin rate, and zero launch angle. You were talking about things that happen after the fact. I’m talking about what creates that ball speed. Nobody’s arguing against ball, speed, spin rate, and launch angle. Those have nothing to do with the subject of this video. You have actually changed the subject in order to make your point. The ball doesn’t suddenly jump off the tee and generate speed on by itself
@@yoursimplegolfswing But ball speed can at most be 1.5x your swing speed. You're very right in saying most people have to get a proper swing first, they're nowhere near optimizing the other aspects. It still needs to be made very clear that once that's dealt with, the only thing you can do is to increase swing speed if you wanna hit it further.
Strangely enough, Troy Mullins speed when she hit that 398 yard Drive was actually 1.534 times are clubhead speed. The swing speed industry would have us believe 1.5 as the max.
Just played 2nd 9 holes using Matt's system, 23index shot 45 last week. Shot 42 today!!! Pl ayed ball forward with driver gained 25 yards on a cold we windy day. Do yourself a favor get Matt's system. 77 years old had a 245 yard drive today.
Well, unfortunately it is, to carry the ball 300 yards you've got to swing in the region of 120 mph. You can hit it as sweetly and as perfectly while accelerating through the ball beautifully to 100mph and it's going to carry 250 at best. Kyle Berkshire swings at over 160mph, his ball leaves the club at over 230mph and he hits it 400 yards plus. All the rest helps, but when you've got all the rest more speed = more distance. And I can prove it, you'll never see a woman set an outright long drive record. If anything other than speed and power were king, that would not be true.
Thank you for your comment. Let’s do some simple mass. Troy Mullins hit a 398 yard Drive It carried 362 yards. Her swing speed was 116 mph. We will use your argument to swing speed. 362÷116= 3.12 yards per mph swing speed. You say it takes 120 mph swing speed to carry 300 yds. So that would be 300÷120 = 2.5 yd./ mph swing speed. Before you say she had a huge tail wind which she did not let’s say for the sake of argument there was at 30 mph. 30 mph swing speed can give you only about 15 yards of additional carry. So even with a 30 mile an hour wind helping her she’s still would have carried it 347. Now let’s look at somebody swinging at 96.12 mph but swing in a way that gives them 3.12 yd./ mph swing speed. They would have a carry distance of 299.89 yards. That’s nearly 24 miles per hour slower swing speed than what you claim is needed to reach 300 yards. This also means people swinging and only 90 mph have the potential of reaching 280 yards on the fly. It also means somebody swinging at 80 miles an hour has a potential of carrying it over 250 yards. I prefer to teach people to use physics in order to aid them in increasing their distance. To tell a 65-year-old man that he has to swing the club 120 miles an hour to reach 300 yards is not only a lie, but is also discouraging. But when you show that 65-year-old man that was a proper use of their body mass in a swing that creates acceleration, at 90 miles an hour swing speed they can reach 300+ yards with just a little roll out. Denying facts to hold on to theories that are dis-proven will only hold you back.
@@yoursimplegolfswing it was a good lesson- observation. My problem is the inability to implement a swing correction/change. How is it best to accomplish this?
What type of swing chains are you talking about? Some swing changes are instant lake. How you put your hands on the club. Others are more involved and require drills like getting the weight shift right.
@@yoursimplegolfswing I have the perfect swing in my head. It’s a longish story so I’ll cut to the chase. I sway too much. I’ve been trying to do what you say without knowing what you say until I saw your video last night. I want to keep my head still. That’s my current issue. When I play and get over the ball I revert to my bad habits. How or what is the best method to train myself to keep my head still?
That’s why all the long drivers switched from XXX/XXXX stiff shafts to ladies flex shafts… through loading off the shaft they gain extra clubhead speed, hence more ball speed… longer drives… their job is to hit it long… so I believe them…
Didn’t want to attack you in any form, just point out a flaw I found. I am always open to hear new opinions, but why react cocky? As a reply to your question: How can physics itself be wrong? It can’t. For control they use a stiffer shaft, for pure distance they don’t. It has a lot to do with how they load and unload the shaft. It all comes down to the law of impulse (p->=m*v->) ( -> means p and v are vectors, can’t create the proper vector symbol overhead the letters)… and in the end the only thing that matters is ballspeed, spin and launch angle. Depending if you are playing into the wind or with the wind it will change the amount of launch and spin you need. Physics… You can hit it very far with a very whippy shaft… Jamie sadlowski had it even in his long drive show and all the long driver do it. If you still don’t believe me, then look up how a battering ram functions. I just say physics…
@florianredecsy4997 I apologize if I came off cocky, I didn’t mean to. I have to admit, sometimes a miss read peoples tone when they write comments. As you can probably imagine I do get my fair share of troublemakers who seem to try to go on everybody’s channel and poo, poo. Anything they say. I appreciate your contributions. I’m doing a follow up to that video. It should be released later this week. Hopefully you’ll find it interesting. What people are actually getting from the more flexible shafts is increased acceleration. Distance, including ball speed, is created by the amount of force you put into the back of that golf ball in impact. Force has nothing to do with the swing speed, but rather mass and acceleration. I hope you’ll take a look at the video once I upload it and let me know your thoughts. Again I apologize for sounding cocky.
@@yoursimplegolfswing No worries, i do get why you react like that, as most is anonymous many will write stupid stuff to your videos. There are many trolls around. But sometimes some just want to help out. The problem with soft shafts for high swingspeed players is usually the torsion and therefore the directional control. Yes Force is mass multiplied by accelaration. Accelaration is the velocity divided by time. To increase the force you can either increase the mass of the clubhead and/or increase the distance the clubhead travels per time because velocity is distance divided by time. (thats why the SI for accelaration is m/s²) Sorry for the small lesson but it is part of my profession to know about physics and especially aerodynamics. I am looking forward to your upcoming video. I am curious. Have a nice day and wonderful start into the new year.
I appreciate your contributions and I agree with what you’re saying. Additional ways to increase mass is to do what people have done like Rory McIlroy early in his career. He hit the gym to put on an additional 15 to 20 pounds of muscle. Another important aspect is to swing in a manner that uses a higher percentage of your own body mass. An example of this is somebody who swings, mostly with their arms as opposed to somebody who swings using their entire body. Obviously, an arm swing will be utilizing a lot less mass. Your point about increasing the distance the clubhead travels is one of the reasons I do not agree that everybody should stop at parallel at the top of the backswing. This is one of the reasons John Daly was so long. They call him big John Daly, but he’s not actually that big. I’ve seen him in person, overweight yes but he wasn’t so overweight when he was younger. I was expecting him to be a lot taller than he is when I first saw him in person.
I've been chasing 175 with my 7 iron. I can do it but my spread is like 50 yards either way to the left or right. I think I'll take a page from your book and hit for 150 and narrow my spread to 20 yards while focusing on contact.
You don’t have to reduce distance to improve your Accuracy. Work on keeping your head steady, the proper hand action, and eliminate independent arm movement.
If you go on the Mike Malaska site, he just mentions the opposite, 98% of power comes from the arms and wrists, not how fast you can move your hips, very confusing.
Distance comes from the formula f=ma which is Force= mass times acceleration. Arms and hands provide only about 10% of your body mass. Good luck with that
@@yoursimplegolfswing The mass that this formula is referring to is the mass of the clubhead--- PERIOD. It is not your body mass. If it were and I wanted to become a better golfer I'd just eat more pizza! So, the key variable is acceleration, which by definition is an increase in SPEED per unit of time or space. So, to hit the ball farther you must move the clubhead with greater acceleration (i.e. faster) OR swing a much heavier clubhead.
You must have a very strange swing in that your body mass is not involved at all. It would be great if you could upload your swing to RUclips. I would love to see that. If what you’re saying is true, then everybody with the same swing speed would hit the ball, exact same distance because everybody’s club head has basically the same mass. Many people who experience a significant weight loss also report that they lose distance. But thank you for your opinion.
Excuse me, it was a dessert at over 2000', tail wind AND slip stream keeping the ball straight Mike said so himself, this quote is nearly verbatim, "it was an act of god, nobody can hit the ball that far" His average drive was little more than 300 yds Get over it. he didn't hit the ball 500 yds with mechanics or physics, it was high altitude, tailwind, dessert heat and slip stream, that's the story, there's no other story here Cute how you commented and then cut off my response, I DID the research, MIKE said how it was done. HE said it wasn't magic, HE said it can't be done with technique THE RESEARCH says it was high altitude, high temperature, TAIL WIND AND SLIP STREAM, not your pixie dust Ever hear of physics? Mike heard of them, he said it can't be done himself ROBOTS confirm how far a ball can travel, NOT MAGIC not your pixie dust because physics I'm out
Please do some research. According to Titleist a golf ball hit at 1 mile of elevation which is it over 5000 feet, in a place like Reno Nevada will give you an increase of 6%. So if you normally hit a golf ball at 250 yards at sea level in Reno you can expect to hit the ball approximately 265 yards. I’m not sure how much further you think 2000 feet of elevation is going to give you. Additionally, if you do research on tailwinds, you will find the formula to calculate how much a tailwind will assist you. You basically take the speed of the wind divided by two and that would be your yardage. In other words, a 30 mph tail wind Will give you a gain of approximately 15 yards. Based on these calculations, 2000 feet of elevation and a 30 mph till win would’ve needed no more than about 21 extra yards for Mike Austins Drive. These are scientific facts that some claim some guy on the Internet came up with.
I did the research, you didn't, Mike said why it went so far, it had nothing to do with his typical 315' swing, it was heat, low pressure, high altitude, slip stream, do the research yourself Robots confirm, it can't be done otherwise because physics I'm out
One interesting note visavi speed and power: in tennis it is a well known phenomenon to hit what we call a heavy ball. It is the same thing. It does not go faster but feels like returning a brick. It has also to do with purity of strike.
That is interesting Oskar, I’ve never heard of that because I don’t know anything about tennis, but I understand what you mean. Thanks for contributing. I would imagine a good strong backhand would use hips and shoulders for power more than the arms as well?
100% correct. I have taught golf for many years and it is a feeling of swinging and the club feeling heavy. I have used a tennis concept of the feeling of the ball going into the strings and then catapulting off of them. In fact a well know old adage in golf is that you slow down a bit if you want to hit it longer ! Smooth and Heavy !
@@geoffw8565 I still use forged blades, I love the heavy feel of head. I know the feeling you’re talking about, smooth and heavy. The newer irons are too light for my liking and so are the drivers.
Throwing with your hands isn’t the same as throwing with your arms. As your body pulls your arms, your left arm doesn’t overtake your left shoulder until long after impact, really not until the follow through, but your hands start accelerating the club at the start of the downswing. If your hands stayed locked at the wrists, the club head would be at hip level when your left arm reaches the ball because at the top of the backswing your hands are at a 90’ angle from your arms. The club head wouldn’t reach the ball until your arms have reached hip level in the follow through. You must throw with the hands so the club head catches up with your arms at the ball. Does that make sense?
smash factor is calculated by dividing the ball speed by clubhead speed. According to the experts, a perfect smash factor is 1.5. A smash factor of 1.0 is not considered good. Again perfect is 1.5. Again this is impart based on clubhead speed. my argument, is it clubhead speed is not an accurate determining factor in distance. Rather it is force to create distance. Now, if 1.5 is perfect and we all know that you cannot do better than perfect and then if you divide trim, Mullins carry distance by or swing speed. He will see that using that formula gives her a smash factor of 1.53. Better than perfect. If smash factor were valid, then a smash factor above 1.5 would be impossible. That would be like scoring 310 in bowling.
The club, must be mechanicaly coupled and moving in phaze, with the rotating mass ! The mass of your body, must also be utilised, to flex the shaft of the golf club, so it acts like a leaf spring through impact. Clubhead speed, that is decoupled and moving out of phaze with the rotating mass is inefficient, because you are getting far less mass onto the ball. The gands and arms, must be dead abd only controlled by the pivot and the constant of gravity 😊
Sorry, physics says the weight of the club head, plus its speed determines the momentum transfer to the ball. That’s it. Everything else is just waffle…
Actually, physics says it’s force, not momentum. F=ma. M is mass. Mass is you and your club. A is acceleration. Acceleration is not speed. Acceleration is the change in velocity over the change in time. Speed is the distance traveled in a unit of time. They are two very different things. What creates distance is force. Forces created by mass times acceleration.
Preach it, brother. I agree with you, it is amazing that nobody talks about the importance of acceleration over speed. Yes, you need some minimum amount of speed but the acceleration is what transfers energy to the golf ball.
Statistics show that the fastest way to lower your scores is to hit more greens in regulation. There are two ways to do this. One is to hit longer drives in order to allow you to do the second thing which is to have a shorter iron into the greens. It’s much easier to hit the green with a nine iron from 140 yards out than it is to hit the green with a three iron from 210 yards out. In order to get to 140 yards out you need to hit longer drives. Working on your short game. Will take you from shooting over 100 to shooting 85 on a regular basis. But then to get lower you really need to hit longer drives and hit more greens in regulation.
Actual statistics show that the most important stat for lowering your handicap is greens in regulation. The best way to hit more greens in regulation is to hit long drives in the fairway so you are hitting short irons into the green. Learning distance and accuracy with your driver and your irons will allow you to consistently post lower scores. You can have the best short game in the world, but if it takes you three shots to get close to a green on a par four you will never score low.
@@yoursimplegolfswing First, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Second, If it takes 3 shots to get close to the green, YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD SHORT GAME. Thirdly, I can easily reverse the example: what good is a long, straight drive if your approach shot goes over the green into a ravine filled with poisonous snakes? (exaggeration for effect) Or you 4 putt on the green? You know the expression: "Drive for show, putt for dough." End of rant. PS - LOVE THE VIDEO. I will try to use your advice!!!
3 shots to green- short drive, come short on approach shot and have to chip to get on. Not sure how that means you have no short game. Second point you messed up is hitting your approach over the green. That’s NOT a G.I.R. But, fun discussion and I’m glad you like the video. Thanks for comments.
@@yoursimplegolfswing Not to be-labor the point (oops, too late for that) but lets say my second shot lands 40 yards off the green. With a good short game I can assure myself of a one-putt hole (yeah, right) however, with a lousy short game from 40 yards I can see one leaving oneself 3 putts, (now we're in MY territory) that's if one is on the green from 40 yards out. I'm sorry but I don't know what G.I.R. means!!!
@josephciolino5493 Green In Regulation. That means on a par four you are on the green in two shots. And a par five you are on the green in three shots. Of course, on a par three you would be on the green in one shot. If you are hitting the greens in regulation, you will never face that 40 yard shot you mentioned. Also, if you do not reach the green in regulation, you will never have a birdie opportunity no matter how good your short game is. You cannot score low without birdie opportunities.
Thanks for the comment Alan, you are spot on with tempo and ball compression. You can’t compress the ball with an arm swing, which is what swing speed gadgets teach, it’s all in the legs and fast hips forcing the turning of the upper body while maintaining a rock solid ‘7’
"Swing speed" is a sales pitch. Its to sell the latest and greatest equipment. "Fitters" are mostly just sales people pushing product not trting to actually improve your game.
Jacob, thanks for your comment, I completely agree. I’ve had the same set of irons (blades) since 2006. I have playing partners who are on their fourth set in the same amount of time. I’ve never seen any improvement in their game
Just saying what any layer person playing golf already know. Nothing scientific and useful about the importance of Smash Factor, Launch Angle and Spin rate, which are the key determinants of Carry (Apex Height) and Roll (Descent Angle). No mention about using Biomechanics to optimise Ground Reaction Forces and Translation, Rotary & Vertical forces to generate speed.
Way too long of a video and poor data explanation. 14 min to just say work on tempo and contact. Could have done that in 1 minute.they are talking carry btw 258 yds at 100 mph.
@@briano6268no, it is your total body and the club, please watch Physics Proves Swing Speed Does NOT Create Distance ruclips.net/video/64PAbNoAN2A/видео.html
So much irrelevant talk that has very little explanatory value. The only things that matters is the ball speed, the angle and the spin of the ball. Of course, swinging in a certain way will help you to hit at the center of the face and upwards. Supposing you have a drive that give the right spin for you, you will get your maximal length. This is science. What this guy need to show is that his method give that.
Thank you for your contribution. I’m sorry you find my talks irrelevant. I have a following video that I will be posting later this week they will take the subject more in depth. If you would like to see videos and talk about the proper swing, I’ve uploaded over 130 videos that teach the Mike Austin, Mike Dunaway swing method. I hope you’ll take some time to enjoy them.
Yes, it is true feel is not always real. When you’re not swinging your arms fast, you’re likely using your body properly. I’ve done videos that talk about how we want to make sure we don’t have independent arm movement but that we swing your arms using our body. this is a great illustration about how important it is to use your body mass to generate force along with the acceleration that you’re creating.
Absolutely brilliant. Not a single ball hit but every word spoken is pure gold when it comes to increasing distance. Thanks so much for your wisdom and honesty.
Thank you Cyril, you are too kind!
Thank you for this explanation. I attended a LPGA tour event in California and I was impressed how far the petite Asian golfers we’re hitting the ball. They were not swinging as fast as my 36 year old 170 pound male frame but were hitting their drives further than mine. What they all had in common were strong powerful thighs and calves, which is much easier to see on the LPGA tour because of their attire. This reinforced my commitment to attaining stronger legs and calves while maintaining extreme flexibility for my golf swing. When I first started playing golf in the mid-1990’s I applied the lessons of Jimmy Ballard to my golf swing and it’s very similar to what you teach and emphasize with lower body strength and weight shifting through the ball. When I’m swinging well I often walk through my shots firing my right side like Gary Player.
My pleasure on the explanation. Thanks so much for sharing the story and contributing. I really appreciate it. Yes I remember Gary Player and his walking through the shot idea. I remember seeing him talk about how he really made sure he does it on uphill shots to ensure that he gets his weight transferred, but that it’s also good to practice this on of full shots. Interesting you would mention the petite Asian golfers on the LPGA. They are who inspired me to search for a more efficient and effective swing many many years ago. To see somebody who’s only 5 foot five and 115 pounds soaking wet in a 265 yard Drive told me that there had to be a better way to swing the club for us men than what we had been taught. I studied the swings of many LPGA players, and learned so much from them. I also noticed that many of them are using the Mike Austin hand action. If you watch the KLPGA, you’ll see the Mike Austin swing is predominate on that tour.
@@Randsurfer some were not, some were faster.
They are impressive
What a great swing thought on the tee - 80%. Or for any club come to that, timing and tempo every day of the week for creaming the shots and plenty of distance 💪. Great video thank you
Thank you, Bolo
I’m a 60yo , I once hit a 300 yd drive and I can tell you now my club head speed has never reached more than 100 mph I average 235 yds it was a mystery how I did it . I definitely by accident just swung the club perfectly .I’m now on a quest to do it again thanks for the video 🙏
My pleasure!
Agree with the thesis of this video. Hitting the ball in the center of a square clubface on the right path is job #1. Without that, a higher swing speed just means your ball goes further into the woods.
Great point Jim, I love it!
As a senior my swing has slowed dramatically. Distance dropping also off the tee. I have gone to senior flex shaft and a larger weighted head with a 9.0 lift. I tee it high but my flight is lower with over spin for additional role. These changes have given me back 15-25 yards back to my game. The slower controlled swing gives me more fairway views also. My partners call me the rock slinger now.
Max, thanks for sharing. I love that you went to a 9° loft. Most club fitters instructors advise seniors to go to higher lofted drivers which I think is a mistake. One thing to take note of if you experiment he will find that the higher, your tee the ball, the lower your trajectory will be the lower you tee your ball the higher your trajectory will be. If you want to gain a little more height, tee the ball a little lower. But if you’re happy with your current ball flight, don’t make any adjustments.
Thank you for the video, I was just fitted and the fitter insisted I needed a regular flex. I have very strong legs and an athletic build. Just don’t have the flex to crated a fast club head speed.The fitter never figured my strength into the mix. Needless to say, the new clubs with the recommended reg flex made me look like a new golfer, could not hit anything straight. Went back to my stiff shafts and my 8 iron is 160. Thought I was loosing my mind until I saw this video.
Oh my! I am so glad I was able to help restore confidence in your own sanity! I learned years ago how to fit myself, how to change out shafts, ferrules, grips. The only thing I don't have the right equipment for is loft and lie changes, but when I did need that done, I told the tech what specs I wanted. I don't really trust fitters...sorry for any fitters out there who read this.
Really enjoyed the video but there is no getting away from physics. Distance is a fundamental consequence of speed (F=ma) although it is more correct to talk about ball speed and not swing speed. However your observations are spot on. Most people do not maximise their distance out of what they already have and would see much better (and safer) gains by focusing on that.
I have a follow on video that I hoped to post later this week. They will discuss the formula that you’re talking about. Thanks for your contribution.
The things that determines distance is ball speed, launch angle and backspin. Every long driver knows this. Given optimal contact, the only way to increase ball speed is to increase swing speed. Reducing spin and optimizing launch angle has to do with loft and angle of attack. You're not completely wrong, how you swing you club can greatly affect contact and backspin giving you more distance. In the end though you will hit a plateau and have to increase swing speed if you wanna hit it further.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. Your golf ball sitting on a golf tee has zero ball speed, zero spin rate, and zero launch angle. You were talking about things that happen after the fact. I’m talking about what creates that ball speed. Nobody’s arguing against ball, speed, spin rate, and launch angle. Those have nothing to do with the subject of this video. You have actually changed the subject in order to make your point. The ball doesn’t suddenly jump off the tee and generate speed on by itself
@@yoursimplegolfswing But ball speed can at most be 1.5x your swing speed. You're very right in saying most people have to get a proper swing first, they're nowhere near optimizing the other aspects. It still needs to be made very clear that once that's dealt with, the only thing you can do is to increase swing speed if you wanna hit it further.
Strangely enough, Troy Mullins speed when she hit that 398 yard Drive was actually 1.534 times are clubhead speed. The swing speed industry would have us believe 1.5 as the max.
Just played 2nd 9 holes using Matt's system, 23index shot 45 last week. Shot 42 today!!! Pl ayed ball forward with driver gained 25 yards on a cold we windy day. Do yourself a favor get Matt's system. 77 years old had a 245 yard drive today.
240 yard drive that’s awesome Michael! Thanks for the shout out and I really appreciate it!
Well, unfortunately it is, to carry the ball 300 yards you've got to swing in the region of 120 mph.
You can hit it as sweetly and as perfectly while accelerating through the ball beautifully to 100mph and it's going to carry 250 at best.
Kyle Berkshire swings at over 160mph, his ball leaves the club at over 230mph and he hits it 400 yards plus.
All the rest helps, but when you've got all the rest more speed = more distance.
And I can prove it, you'll never see a woman set an outright long drive record. If anything other than speed and power were king, that would not be true.
Thank you for your comment. Let’s do some simple mass. Troy Mullins hit a 398 yard Drive It carried 362 yards. Her swing speed was 116 mph. We will use your argument to swing speed. 362÷116= 3.12 yards per mph swing speed. You say it takes 120 mph swing speed to carry 300 yds. So that would be 300÷120 = 2.5 yd./ mph swing speed. Before you say she had a huge tail wind which she did not let’s say for the sake of argument there was at 30 mph. 30 mph swing speed can give you only about 15 yards of additional carry. So even with a 30 mile an hour wind helping her she’s still would have carried it 347. Now let’s look at somebody swinging at 96.12 mph but swing in a way that gives them 3.12 yd./ mph swing speed. They would have a carry distance of 299.89 yards. That’s nearly 24 miles per hour slower swing speed than what you claim is needed to reach 300 yards. This also means people swinging and only 90 mph have the potential of reaching 280 yards on the fly. It also means somebody swinging at 80 miles an hour has a potential of carrying it over 250 yards. I prefer to teach people to use physics in order to aid them in increasing their distance. To tell a 65-year-old man that he has to swing the club 120 miles an hour to reach 300 yards is not only a lie, but is also discouraging. But when you show that 65-year-old man that was a proper use of their body mass in a swing that creates acceleration, at 90 miles an hour swing speed they can reach 300+ yards with just a little roll out. Denying facts to hold on to theories that are dis-proven will only hold you back.
@@yoursimplegolfswing one ofs, favourable conditions, Kyle Berkshire hit it 575 in Scotland last year.
That’s a monster Drive all right. Was that on the golf course in an official PGA tour tournament?
Farther = when speaking of actual measured distance
Further = when speaking of abstract distances (education will take you further)
Thank you for the correction
@@yoursimplegolfswing it was a good lesson- observation. My problem is the inability to implement a swing correction/change. How is it best to accomplish this?
What type of swing chains are you talking about? Some swing changes are instant lake. How you put your hands on the club. Others are more involved and require drills like getting the weight shift right.
@@yoursimplegolfswing I have the perfect swing in my head. It’s a longish story so I’ll cut to the chase. I sway too much. I’ve been trying to do what you say without knowing what you say until I saw your video last night. I want to keep my head still. That’s my current issue. When I play and get over the ball I revert to my bad habits. How or what is the best method to train myself to keep my head still?
Thank you
That’s why all the long drivers switched from XXX/XXXX stiff shafts to ladies flex shafts… through loading off the shaft they gain extra clubhead speed, hence more ball speed… longer drives… their job is to hit it long… so I believe them…
I guess physics is wrong then, eh? Troy doesn’t use a ladies shaft
Didn’t want to attack you in any form, just point out a flaw I found. I am always open to hear new opinions, but why react cocky? As a reply to your question:
How can physics itself be wrong? It can’t. For control they use a stiffer shaft, for pure distance they don’t. It has a lot to do with how they load and unload the shaft. It all comes down to the law of impulse (p->=m*v->) ( -> means p and v are vectors, can’t create the proper vector symbol overhead the letters)… and in the end the only thing that matters is ballspeed, spin and launch angle. Depending if you are playing into the wind or with the wind it will change the amount of launch and spin you need. Physics… You can hit it very far with a very whippy shaft… Jamie sadlowski had it even in his long drive show and all the long driver do it. If you still don’t believe me, then look up how a battering ram functions. I just say physics…
@florianredecsy4997 I apologize if I came off cocky, I didn’t mean to. I have to admit, sometimes a miss read peoples tone when they write comments. As you can probably imagine I do get my fair share of troublemakers who seem to try to go on everybody’s channel and poo, poo. Anything they say. I appreciate your contributions. I’m doing a follow up to that video. It should be released later this week. Hopefully you’ll find it interesting. What people are actually getting from the more flexible shafts is increased acceleration. Distance, including ball speed, is created by the amount of force you put into the back of that golf ball in impact. Force has nothing to do with the swing speed, but rather mass and acceleration. I hope you’ll take a look at the video once I upload it and let me know your thoughts. Again I apologize for sounding cocky.
@@yoursimplegolfswing No worries, i do get why you react like that, as most is anonymous many will write stupid stuff to your videos. There are many trolls around. But sometimes some just want to help out. The problem with soft shafts for high swingspeed players is usually the torsion and therefore the directional control.
Yes Force is mass multiplied by accelaration. Accelaration is the velocity divided by time. To increase the force you can either increase the mass of the clubhead and/or increase the distance the clubhead travels per time because velocity is distance divided by time. (thats why the SI for accelaration is m/s²)
Sorry for the small lesson but it is part of my profession to know about physics and especially aerodynamics.
I am looking forward to your upcoming video. I am curious. Have a nice day and wonderful start into the new year.
I appreciate your contributions and I agree with what you’re saying. Additional ways to increase mass is to do what people have done like Rory McIlroy early in his career. He hit the gym to put on an additional 15 to 20 pounds of muscle. Another important aspect is to swing in a manner that uses a higher percentage of your own body mass. An example of this is somebody who swings, mostly with their arms as opposed to somebody who swings using their entire body. Obviously, an arm swing will be utilizing a lot less mass. Your point about increasing the distance the clubhead travels is one of the reasons I do not agree that everybody should stop at parallel at the top of the backswing. This is one of the reasons John Daly was so long. They call him big John Daly, but he’s not actually that big. I’ve seen him in person, overweight yes but he wasn’t so overweight when he was younger. I was expecting him to be a lot taller than he is when I first saw him in person.
In summary, it’s about POWER or MOMENTUM. They all depend on Speed and Mass or Inertia.
M1*V1 = M2*V2
F=ma Force= mass times acceleration
I've been chasing 175 with my 7 iron. I can do it but my spread is like 50 yards either way to the left or right. I think I'll take a page from your book and hit for 150 and narrow my spread to 20 yards while focusing on contact.
You don’t have to reduce distance to improve your Accuracy. Work on keeping your head steady, the proper hand action, and eliminate independent arm movement.
Matt I took your lessons and I’m trying to find the link I can go to to rewatch the videos over and over till I fill like I’ve got the swing
matthew-s-site-0c84.thinkific.com/courses/your-first-course
If you go on the Mike Malaska site, he just mentions the opposite, 98% of power comes from the arms and wrists, not how fast you can move your hips, very confusing.
Distance comes from the formula f=ma which is Force= mass times acceleration. Arms and hands provide only about 10% of your body mass. Good luck with that
@@yoursimplegolfswing The mass that this formula is referring to is the mass of the clubhead--- PERIOD. It is not your body mass. If it were and I wanted to become a better golfer I'd just eat more pizza! So, the key variable is acceleration, which by definition is an increase in SPEED per unit of time or space. So, to hit the ball farther you must move the clubhead with greater acceleration (i.e. faster) OR swing a much heavier clubhead.
You must have a very strange swing in that your body mass is not involved at all. It would be great if you could upload your swing to RUclips. I would love to see that. If what you’re saying is true, then everybody with the same swing speed would hit the ball, exact same distance because everybody’s club head has basically the same mass. Many people who experience a significant weight loss also report that they lose distance. But thank you for your opinion.
Summed up by the old adage, brilliantly explained here and deeply rooted in Newtonian Mechanics: 'hit ball a long time'.
Thanks Dusty, I appreciate it! ‘Newtonian Mechanics,’ love it!
Excuse me, it was a dessert at over 2000', tail wind AND slip stream keeping the ball straight
Mike said so himself, this quote is nearly verbatim, "it was an act of god, nobody can hit the ball that far"
His average drive was little more than 300 yds
Get over it. he didn't hit the ball 500 yds with mechanics or physics, it was high altitude, tailwind, dessert heat and slip stream, that's the story, there's no other story here
Cute how you commented and then cut off my response, I DID the research, MIKE said how it was done. HE said it wasn't magic, HE said it can't be done with technique
THE RESEARCH says it was high altitude, high temperature, TAIL WIND AND SLIP STREAM, not your pixie dust
Ever hear of physics?
Mike heard of them, he said it can't be done himself
ROBOTS confirm how far a ball can travel, NOT MAGIC not your pixie dust
because physics
I'm out
Please do some research. According to Titleist a golf ball hit at 1 mile of elevation which is it over 5000 feet, in a place like Reno Nevada will give you an increase of 6%. So if you normally hit a golf ball at 250 yards at sea level in Reno you can expect to hit the ball approximately 265 yards. I’m not sure how much further you think 2000 feet of elevation is going to give you. Additionally, if you do research on tailwinds, you will find the formula to calculate how much a tailwind will assist you. You basically take the speed of the wind divided by two and that would be your yardage. In other words, a 30 mph tail wind Will give you a gain of approximately 15 yards. Based on these calculations, 2000 feet of elevation and a 30 mph till win would’ve needed no more than about 21 extra yards for Mike Austins Drive. These are scientific facts that some claim some guy on the Internet came up with.
I did the research, you didn't, Mike said why it went so far, it had nothing to do with his typical 315' swing, it was heat, low pressure, high altitude, slip stream, do the research yourself
Robots confirm, it can't be done otherwise
because physics
I'm out
Didn’t you say you’re out?
One interesting note visavi speed and power: in tennis it is a well known phenomenon to hit what we call a heavy ball. It is the same thing. It does not go faster but feels like returning a brick. It has also to do with purity of strike.
That is interesting Oskar, I’ve never heard of that because I don’t know anything about tennis, but I understand what you mean. Thanks for contributing. I would imagine a good strong backhand would use hips and shoulders for power more than the arms as well?
@@yoursimplegolfswing certainly. In golf as in tennis, power comes from the ground up.
@@TheMightySandow most amateurs have it upside down
100% correct. I have taught golf for many years and it is a feeling of swinging and the club feeling heavy. I have used a tennis concept of the feeling of the ball going into the strings and then catapulting off of them. In fact a well know old adage in golf is that you slow down a bit if you want to hit it longer ! Smooth and Heavy !
@@geoffw8565 I still use forged blades, I love the heavy feel of head. I know the feeling you’re talking about, smooth and heavy. The newer irons are too light for my liking and so are the drivers.
I agree with your thoughts here but how does it square with your video which says, throw your hands.
Throwing with your hands isn’t the same as throwing with your arms. As your body pulls your arms, your left arm doesn’t overtake your left shoulder until long after impact, really not until the follow through, but your hands start accelerating the club at the start of the downswing. If your hands stayed locked at the wrists, the club head would be at hip level when your left arm reaches the ball because at the top of the backswing your hands are at a 90’ angle from your arms. The club head wouldn’t reach the ball until your arms have reached hip level in the follow through. You must throw with the hands so the club head catches up with your arms at the ball. Does that make sense?
@@yoursimplegolfswing Yes it does…thanks for explaining.
My pleasure, thank you for your question, it will help others as well
Without watching I predict he is going to say smash factor(efficiency) is most important.
That launch angle and attack angle are equally important.
Nope, smash factor is worthless because it’s partially based on swing speed. Smash factor is ball speed divided by swing speed, a worthless formula
@@Randsurfersmash factor is also a useless stat
smash factor is calculated by dividing the ball speed by clubhead speed. According to the experts, a perfect smash factor is 1.5. A smash factor of 1.0 is not considered good. Again perfect is 1.5. Again this is impart based on clubhead speed. my argument, is it clubhead speed is not an accurate determining factor in distance. Rather it is force to create distance. Now, if 1.5 is perfect and we all know that you cannot do better than perfect and then if you divide trim, Mullins carry distance by or swing speed. He will see that using that formula gives her a smash factor of 1.53. Better than perfect. If smash factor were valid, then a smash factor above 1.5 would be impossible. That would be like scoring 310 in bowling.
The internet is a dangerous thing.
certainly can be
I'm always 100% and then some 😁. Great topic
Perfect David! LOL!
The club, must be mechanicaly coupled and moving in phaze, with the rotating mass !
The mass of your body, must also be utilised, to flex the shaft of the golf club, so it acts like a leaf spring through impact.
Clubhead speed, that is decoupled and moving out of phaze with the rotating mass is inefficient, because you are getting far less mass onto the ball.
The gands and arms, must be dead abd only controlled by the pivot and the constant of gravity 😊
Interesting thoughts thanks for sharing
The feeling of heaviness at impact is the key not speed !
Interesting thought. Thanks for sharing
Sorry, physics says the weight of the club head, plus its speed determines the momentum transfer to the ball. That’s it. Everything else is just waffle…
Actually, physics says it’s force, not momentum. F=ma. M is mass. Mass is you and your club. A is acceleration. Acceleration is not speed. Acceleration is the change in velocity over the change in time. Speed is the distance traveled in a unit of time. They are two very different things. What creates distance is force. Forces created by mass times acceleration.
Your simply golf is correct with the physics did you do well in your physics in high school from a ex (retired) physics teacher.
Thank you Clive
Preach it, brother. I agree with you, it is amazing that nobody talks about the importance of acceleration over speed. Yes, you need some minimum amount of speed but the acceleration is what transfers energy to the golf ball.
Thanks for your coming. I really appreciate that.
Well done video.
Thank you!
E=mc2
Forget about tge drive. Work on the Short game and improve your scores more then trying to improve your drives
Statistics show that the fastest way to lower your scores is to hit more greens in regulation. There are two ways to do this. One is to hit longer drives in order to allow you to do the second thing which is to have a shorter iron into the greens. It’s much easier to hit the green with a nine iron from 140 yards out than it is to hit the green with a three iron from 210 yards out. In order to get to 140 yards out you need to hit longer drives. Working on your short game. Will take you from shooting over 100 to shooting 85 on a regular basis. But then to get lower you really need to hit longer drives and hit more greens in regulation.
Why can people hit the ball 250 yards sitting on their knees, check it out, it's a fact.
Mass times acceleration equals force.
If you have a good short game, you score.
Actual statistics show that the most important stat for lowering your handicap is greens in regulation. The best way to hit more greens in regulation is to hit long drives in the fairway so you are hitting short irons into the green. Learning distance and accuracy with your driver and your irons will allow you to consistently post lower scores. You can have the best short game in the world, but if it takes you three shots to get close to a green on a par four you will never score low.
@@yoursimplegolfswing First, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. Second, If it takes 3 shots to get close to the green, YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD SHORT GAME. Thirdly, I can easily reverse the example: what good is a long, straight drive if your approach shot goes over the green into a ravine filled with poisonous snakes? (exaggeration for effect) Or you 4 putt on the green? You know the expression: "Drive for show, putt for dough." End of rant. PS - LOVE THE VIDEO. I will try to use your advice!!!
3 shots to green- short drive, come short on approach shot and have to chip to get on. Not sure how that means you have no short game. Second point you messed up is hitting your approach over the green. That’s NOT a G.I.R. But, fun discussion and I’m glad you like the video. Thanks for comments.
@@yoursimplegolfswing Not to be-labor the point (oops, too late for that) but lets say my second shot lands 40 yards off the green. With a good short game I can assure myself of a one-putt hole (yeah, right) however, with a lousy short game from 40 yards I can see one leaving oneself 3 putts, (now we're in MY territory) that's if one is on the green from 40 yards out.
I'm sorry but I don't know what G.I.R. means!!!
@josephciolino5493 Green In Regulation. That means on a par four you are on the green in two shots. And a par five you are on the green in three shots. Of course, on a par three you would be on the green in one shot. If you are hitting the greens in regulation, you will never face that 40 yard shot you mentioned. Also, if you do not reach the green in regulation, you will never have a birdie opportunity no matter how good your short game is. You cannot score low without birdie opportunities.
Correct the math does not add up. Tempo and ball compression is key.
Thanks for the comment Alan, you are spot on with tempo and ball compression. You can’t compress the ball with an arm swing, which is what swing speed gadgets teach, it’s all in the legs and fast hips forcing the turning of the upper body while maintaining a rock solid ‘7’
"Swing speed" is a sales pitch. Its to sell the latest and greatest equipment. "Fitters" are mostly just sales people pushing product not trting to actually improve your game.
Jacob, thanks for your comment, I completely agree. I’ve had the same set of irons (blades) since 2006. I have playing partners who are on their fourth set in the same amount of time. I’ve never seen any improvement in their game
Just saying what any layer person playing golf already know. Nothing scientific and useful about the importance of Smash Factor, Launch Angle and Spin rate, which are the key determinants of Carry (Apex Height) and Roll (Descent Angle). No mention about using Biomechanics to optimise Ground Reaction Forces and Translation, Rotary & Vertical forces to generate speed.
I guess you missed the point of this channel
Way too long of a video and poor data explanation. 14 min to just say work on tempo and contact. Could have done that in 1 minute.they are talking carry btw 258 yds at 100 mph.
Yup, and Troy’s drive carried 362 yards then rolled out to 398.
too much talking need real concrete solution
The concrete solution is in the more than 130 other videos I posted on my channel.
It is club head acceleration not velocity. F=MA
You are exactly right
@@yoursimplegolfswing Also, in the formula F=MA the mass (M) is the mass of the clubhead, correct?
@@briano6268no, it is your total body and the club, please watch Physics Proves Swing Speed Does NOT Create Distance
ruclips.net/video/64PAbNoAN2A/видео.html
So much irrelevant talk that has very little explanatory value. The only things that matters is the ball speed, the angle and the spin of the ball. Of course, swinging in a certain way will help you to hit at the center of the face and upwards. Supposing you have a drive that give the right spin for you, you will get your maximal length. This is science. What this guy need to show is that his method give that.
Thank you for your contribution. I’m sorry you find my talks irrelevant. I have a following video that I will be posting later this week they will take the subject more in depth. If you would like to see videos and talk about the proper swing, I’ve uploaded over 130 videos that teach the Mike Austin, Mike Dunaway swing method. I hope you’ll take some time to enjoy them.
Thank you for sharing your opinion
My drive is huge when i feel my arms is not swinging fast. But i also heard "feel" sometimes is not "real".
Yes, it is true feel is not always real. When you’re not swinging your arms fast, you’re likely using your body properly. I’ve done videos that talk about how we want to make sure we don’t have independent arm movement but that we swing your arms using our body. this is a great illustration about how important it is to use your body mass to generate force along with the acceleration that you’re creating.