I enjoyed this video. Thanks for making this video, and for taking the time to explain and reinforce the basic rules components. The figures look great!
Battalion and regiment are used almost interchangeably during the Civil War. A battalion was anything less than the full compliment of companies for a regiment (typically 10), and the commands in the drill manuals refer to a regiment as a battalion.
Must admit after picking this box up today and looking at the glory hallelujah book and the main rulebook I've felt a bit overwhelmed by it so this video was a great help as will the rest in this series! Thanks for sharing! I've subscribed 😎
It really is a simple set of rules. I like it as I can have someone with limited wargame experience come to my house, and I can show them the rules and play a game in 3 hours. Often i may get beat. I have another video up which gives a review if Black Powder, and some commentary from the great game replayed, Waterloo, which saw 100 of us recreate Waterloo with 23,000 28mm figures.
@@turfdorbrittlebeard1674 once you have read through the rules, there are tables and reference sheets. I totally agree on the wonderful filler. I mention this in my previous review of the rules. 2nd was better and clearer than 1st ed. You could still write them to be a simple looking set and much tighter.
The new starter set? With the cavalry and skirmishers? That looks great, I have loads of Napoleonics at the moment, but the new ACW plastics are on my to.buy list
Looking at the Polemos ACW 6mm rules for ranges and movement etc. The scaling down for 6mm would be to convert inches to centimeters then half it. For 10mm I would say just convert everything to centimetres.
This system would be absolutely perfect if they did the entire range in plastic. I was so excited when it was announced, and the standard infantry sprue is just amazing, but knowing that the cavalry and more elite troops are metal makes it an absolute no-go for me.
It’s a matter of cost to first production run Basic infantry cost the same to produce as the iron brigade or the Louisiana Tigers BUT after they get to the Shop. How many line battalions will you have in your army: How many Zouave battalions will you have in your army: How many cavalry regiments will you have in your army: Answer those questions, then work out cost of set up: it’s the same for all those types. Then once on the manufacture line it’s the same to produce. So once in the shop sales of line battalions will be 10 times the sales of cavalry regiments or Zouave regiments. Which means the setup cost for the low selling units will loose money. So you must sell the line regiments at a higher price to prevent this or you could use metal to produce the low selling units, so that you can sell the high selling units at the lower price.
I’m watching this series of videos again. Just to get into thing while I’m painting. And cutting the base size down to, preferably a 20mm square To mount the figures 2 files wide and 2 ranks deep (or I could make them deeper to 25mm to match Age of Eagles ,Age of Valour bases). Or to match Fire and Fury and Regimental Fire and Fury 25mm square bases. (1” = 40 yds. Or 80 yds or 120 yds. This will give more options of riles to use, including ordinary Black Rules. Regimental Fire and Fury having 25mm bases can have a full 5 figures wide as the Epic bases are wider than the row of figures . The bit I dread is using a knife to trim the figures to size while ensuring my fingers remain the same length 😏
Good explanation, and you’re correct, the rulebook does seem to make hard work of a simple system. I will have to try using elements instead of figures. Didn’t the American Army call the one base wide column a Field Column and a March column for roads was if the road allowed a half company or platoon and on bad ground , column of fours. Generally a column of companies was preferable although not as fast as a platoon it had less depth and was safer because they were drilled by companies but it doesn’t matter as long as formations are clear to each player. As a thought in the starter pack with a rule book, for Epic size figures?
The basing of the epic scale figures doesn’t represent a basic March column of fours at all. A March column of four men would deploy by company into line. This would have a regiment of infantry now deployed in a column of companies. From there the column of companies would deploy as forward into line forming a regimental battle front of ten companies wide. There were other options, but this was the most basic and probably the most common.
Really nice video of explanation. Really nice paint on the minis. Just a thought for you. Confederate regiments only carried one battle flag per regiment. Which had a good bit of variety depending on the theatre and time period. Unlike the federal regiments who followed the English pattern and carried a national and a regimental flag, so two per regiment. Just a friendly note. Great job on explaining the rules. Great work :)
Thanks for the thoughts. I was aware of the Confederate situation.with flags. Though I do love flags on my units! Also the warlord command has 2 banner poles. Perhaps I am just too British!!!!! Saying that my Napoleonic French only need 1 eagle, but that had been touched by the Emperor!
Thank you for the basic understanding of the game - i'm looking at getting into Black powder and the American Civil War is something that i enjoy watching as documentaries. I see that there is a 28mm version and an epic version to chose from. Is there much difference in terms of the rules for both of them, sorry for my ignorance on the subject as this is my first video that i have watched for Black Powder :) Thanks in advance!
Dead simple, these were the ones that came in the Wargames Illustrated Magazine, though same for any flag.i.have done. Cut them out, use PVA glue on the flag pole and the flag itself, after folding the flag and ensuring it will line up correctly. Pinch together in place around the flag pole, then I pinch the corners together to give the flag a.less.straight shape.
Yes there is, I cover it more in the other videos, I was laying a basic overview of the stats in this and layering in extra rules on top of the basics.
Thankyou, I love working in this scale, I have just about finished the AWI, and after this project, or alongside it I have the Anglo Zulu war ready to go.
Great job and thank you. Question: to deploy skirmishers, do you just put one stand of skirmishers out in front of the regiment, and they are considered part of the same regiment? Or does the whole regiment take that formation?
Hi there, there are 2 formation rules governing this. Mixed order. This is available to every regular unit and is covered in p58 of the black powder rule book. A unit will have a stand of troops up to 2" forward of the parent unit. There is also the special rule of skirmish order, where the entire unit can adopt a skirmish formation.
Talking about the new Skirmisher boxsets...you can also attach a single unit of skirmishers to a brigade, which is what I will do. I am planning to form tiny units of 20 sharpshooters and attach them to brigades how I see fit.
@@a.e.130 As i Under stand the rules you use part of your brigade or unit as skirmisher. For example, you have a unit of 5 stands and use one of stands as skirmisher. So it is 1+4,not 1+5. Same, when you use brigade skirmisher. You "dismis" one unit, but gain skirmish stands to other.
March I think, it's straight from Warlord Miniatures. Well the minis came.out in March, the rules have been around for ages. I am about to do some videos about Napoleonic Black Powder.
Please remind everyone at every video if dont like how the rules run you can change them . Its not a codified by law with wargame Police . Make your house rules as you see fit . The rules are conceptual to getting a game over in a day . Unlike one other rule set half the day walking towards the middle . They will work with any other musket era up to Zulu war for example
Good point on the changing of rules. I do have another video where I talk about how I had tinkered with the rules. BP1 appendix was great for giving permission, I think BP itself dies say you can change what you want.
At times yes. There are a couple of things happening. The rules are written to have big games resolved in a decent time frame. Second, it gives you decision points about how you use reserves and what to do about your line of fire. Units that are struggling with stamina are still able to support effectively.
Very nice painting but underwhelmed by the rules. If Warlord had gone with actual 10mm, and offered the figures in a form where you could use them with traditional basing (1" frontage) for the rulesets that have been going for decades, then I may have bitten but this seems the worst of both worlds. If you are new to wargaming or the period I can see the attraction of buying everything in one box but the units as written don't seem to me to make for "epic" games - five stands frontage is about 10", so if you have a six foot by four foot table there isn't going to be much room to manoeuvre once you've deployed a couple of brigades per side on the table. And for me, that isn't "Epic".
Some good points. I've gone with 3 bases for regular and mixed in 1/2 bases for other rules. Kallistra are a decent match, and I already had a union army I really like the look.of these, offering a great looking ranked up unit. Interesting the Zouves and Iron Brigade look to be in strips.of 5.
@@Unclecthulu Obviously, if you already have the Kallistra figures for one army then the Warlord basic set is a good cheap way of getting some new figures although looking at the prices for the additional sets and comparing them to Kallistra's pricing the Warlord Zouaves etc seem expensive. I like the look of the figures, I just don't like that I'd need to hack them about to base them for any of the rules I'd consider. And for me personally, I own 15mm troops already - if I'm going to go down a scale then it needs to be small enough to make a meaningful difference - and from 15mm to 13.5mm isn't enough for me personally - but I can completely see how it would work for you. For me, I'd want 10mm figures, 8-10 per 1" stand, with each stand representing 60-80 men - which means each regiment would run from three stands for the smallest regiments (about 30 model figures) up to a dozen or so stands for the very largest. That would give a ground scale of about 1" to 40 yards, and you can work movement and firing ranges from that. It seems to me that having a ruleset like Warlord's where you have a "standard" regiment means that you lose a lot of the flavour you gain from managing different sized units. And if you assume that the five stand Warlord regiment is a 1,000 man full strength unit then you get a ground scale of 1" to 50 yards, but if you assume the Warlord regiment is a more typical 400 to 500 man outfit then the ground scale for the game falls to 20 - 25 yards to the inch and your 6 foot by 4 foot table represents an area 1,800 yards by 1,200 yards. And you are back to your game representing a small area of a battlefield rather than the whole - which for me is not what "epic" represents...
Not entire, I don’t believe any unit suffered 100% casualties, but yes, there are some abnormally high casualty rates compared to other 19th Century wars.
I enjoyed this video. Thanks for making this video, and for taking the time to explain and reinforce the basic rules components. The figures look great!
you have done a really nice paint job on these figures.
The Union Regimental standard is particularly impressive.
Honestly did not realise how tiny those models where until you rolled the dice! Must be the paint job. good on you.
Battalion and regiment are used almost interchangeably during the Civil War. A battalion was anything less than the full compliment of companies for a regiment (typically 10), and the commands in the drill manuals refer to a regiment as a battalion.
Must admit after picking this box up today and looking at the glory hallelujah book and the main rulebook I've felt a bit overwhelmed by it so this video was a great help as will the rest in this series! Thanks for sharing! I've subscribed 😎
Look up BP Boot Camp too !
It really is a simple set of rules. I like it as I can have someone with limited wargame experience come to my house, and I can show them the rules and play a game in 3 hours.
Often i may get beat.
I have another video up which gives a review if Black Powder, and some commentary from the great game replayed, Waterloo, which saw 100 of us recreate Waterloo with 23,000 28mm figures.
Is there a simple quick reference guide like in flames of war? Love the rule books, beautiful, but super inundated with wonderful filler.
@@turfdorbrittlebeard1674 once you have read through the rules, there are tables and reference sheets.
I totally agree on the wonderful filler. I mention this in my previous review of the rules. 2nd was better and clearer than 1st ed. You could still write them to be a simple looking set and much tighter.
Your videos are great!
Just picked up a starter box for this, and your videos have been really useful 👌
The new starter set? With the cavalry and skirmishers? That looks great, I have loads of Napoleonics at the moment, but the new ACW plastics are on my to.buy list
Thank you for sharing
thanks for putting together this vid! I just found out about the game, so I'm trying to get a feel for the rules to see if it's up my ally.
Looking at the Polemos ACW 6mm rules for ranges and movement etc. The scaling down for 6mm would be to convert inches to centimeters then half it.
For 10mm I would say just convert everything to centimetres.
Yo this is a blessing thanks and keep up the good work.
This system would be absolutely perfect if they did the entire range in plastic. I was so excited when it was announced, and the standard infantry sprue is just amazing, but knowing that the cavalry and more elite troops are metal makes it an absolute no-go for me.
I agree...I prefer plastic over metal because of gluing and painting issues. Lol.
same here..
This is why I haven't purchased the cavalry, iron brigade, skirmishes, dismounted cavalry or zouaves : (
Victrix and Perry miniatures.
Plastic cavalry mounted and dismounted have been announced for ACW now....
Great intro to this. Looking forward to watching the rest of the series.
Great job. Looking forward to more!
This week, I have time to get creating again.
Brilliant, all the best, Garry
It’s a matter of cost to first production run
Basic infantry cost the same to produce as the iron brigade or the Louisiana Tigers BUT after they get to the Shop.
How many line battalions will you have in your army:
How many Zouave battalions will you have in your army:
How many cavalry regiments will you have in your army:
Answer those questions, then work out cost of set up: it’s the same for all those types.
Then once on the manufacture line it’s the same to produce.
So once in the shop sales of line battalions will be 10 times the sales of cavalry regiments or Zouave regiments.
Which means the setup cost for the low selling units will loose money.
So you must sell the line regiments at a higher price to prevent this or you could use metal to produce the low selling units, so that you can sell the high selling units at the lower price.
I’m watching this series of videos again. Just to get into thing while I’m painting. And cutting the base size down to, preferably a 20mm square
To mount the figures 2 files wide and 2 ranks deep (or I could make them deeper to 25mm to match Age of Eagles ,Age of Valour bases).
Or to match Fire and Fury and Regimental Fire and Fury 25mm square bases. (1” = 40 yds. Or 80 yds or 120 yds. This will give more options of riles to use, including ordinary Black Rules.
Regimental Fire and Fury having 25mm bases can have a full 5 figures wide as the Epic bases are wider than the row of figures .
The bit I dread is using a knife to trim the figures to size while ensuring my fingers remain the same length 😏
Very informative, thank you .
Very nice Painting...and yeah subscribed :)
Thank you, though with thus project citadel contrast paints have done the heavy lifting.
Good explanation, and you’re correct, the rulebook does seem to make hard work of a simple system.
I will have to try using elements instead of figures.
Didn’t the American Army call the one base wide column a Field Column and a March column for roads was if the road allowed a half company or platoon and on bad ground , column of fours. Generally a column of companies was preferable although not as fast as a platoon it had less depth and was safer because they were drilled by companies but it doesn’t matter as long as formations are clear to each player.
As a thought in the starter pack with a rule book, for Epic size figures?
The basing of the epic scale figures doesn’t represent a basic March column of fours at all. A March column of four men would deploy by company into line. This would have a regiment of infantry now deployed in a column of companies. From there the column of companies would deploy as forward into line forming a regimental battle front of ten companies wide. There were other options, but this was the most basic and probably the most common.
Really nice video of explanation. Really nice paint on the minis. Just a thought for you. Confederate regiments only carried one battle flag per regiment. Which had a good bit of variety depending on the theatre and time period. Unlike the federal regiments who followed the English pattern and carried a national and a regimental flag, so two per regiment. Just a friendly note. Great job on explaining the rules. Great work :)
Thanks for the thoughts.
I was aware of the Confederate situation.with flags. Though I do love flags on my units! Also the warlord command has 2 banner poles.
Perhaps I am just too British!!!!!
Saying that my Napoleonic French only need 1 eagle, but that had been touched by the Emperor!
A good explanation!
Thank you for the basic understanding of the game - i'm looking at getting into Black powder and the American Civil War is something that i enjoy watching as documentaries. I see that there is a 28mm version and an epic version to chose from. Is there much difference in terms of the rules for both of them, sorry for my ignorance on the subject as this is my first video that i have watched for Black Powder :)
Thanks in advance!
Exactly the same rules for both scales.
Fantastic
Nice work! Beautiful miniatures as well. How did you do the flags?
Dead simple, these were the ones that came in the Wargames Illustrated Magazine, though same for any flag.i.have done.
Cut them out, use PVA glue on the flag pole and the flag itself, after folding the flag and ensuring it will line up correctly.
Pinch together in place around the flag pole, then I pinch the corners together to give the flag a.less.straight shape.
Oh and then paint the edge.of the flag, to cover any white.underside showing through.
@@Unclecthulu I can see the Battle Flag for the rebs, but what is the other one?
very helpful, thanks - is there a playlist for your videos?
Great job !
I would love for them to do the English Civil war in epic scale - an period of history I find very interesting.
Pendraken do fantastic 10mm metal figures
@@Nephilim225 will look into this cheers 👍
They are now doing ECW in Epic!
thank you just bought these
Is there closing fire like in regular black powder.. I.e should the union had a roll for closing fire ?
Great series you ha e going
Well done
Yes there is, I cover it more in the other videos, I was laying a basic overview of the stats in this and layering in extra rules on top of the basics.
@@Unclecthulu thanks
Not a fan of Black Powder- doubt I ever will be but your figures look superb.
Thankyou, I love working in this scale, I have just about finished the AWI, and after this project, or alongside it I have the Anglo Zulu war ready to go.
I have also done a video talking about other rules I will be using.
Great job and thank you. Question: to deploy skirmishers, do you just put one stand of skirmishers out in front of the regiment, and they are considered part of the same regiment? Or does the whole regiment take that formation?
Hi there, there are 2 formation rules governing this.
Mixed order. This is available to every regular unit and is covered in p58 of the black powder rule book. A unit will have a stand of troops up to 2" forward of the parent unit.
There is also the special rule of skirmish order, where the entire unit can adopt a skirmish formation.
Talking about the new Skirmisher boxsets...you can also attach a single unit of skirmishers to a brigade, which is what I will do. I am planning to form tiny units of 20 sharpshooters and attach them to brigades how I see fit.
@@a.e.130 Where i can find this rules? Cabt find it in BP or GH ruleboks. Only two version above.
@@evilVaSSis In the Glory Hallejuah under Optional Rules / The battle / Optional Rules for Skirmishers
@@a.e.130 As i Under stand the rules you use part of your brigade or unit as skirmisher. For example, you have a unit of 5 stands and use one of stands as skirmisher. So it is 1+4,not 1+5. Same, when you use brigade skirmisher. You "dismis" one unit, but gain skirmish stands to other.
Since these are civil war units im getting an Old guard brigade do the same rules apply?
Same basic rules, however there are supplements that will add additional rules, and units like the guard will have increased basic stats as well.
So when did this game come out? Also your minis look rly good!
March I think, it's straight from Warlord Miniatures. Well the minis came.out in March, the rules have been around for ages. I am about to do some videos about Napoleonic Black Powder.
Do you recommend anybody for hire to paint miniatures
so beatifull army
Thankyou
Please remind everyone at every video if dont like how the rules run you can change them . Its not a codified by law with wargame Police . Make your house rules as you see fit . The rules are conceptual to getting a game over in a day . Unlike one other rule set half the day walking towards the middle . They will work with any other musket era up to Zulu war for example
Good point on the changing of rules. I do have another video where I talk about how I had tinkered with the rules.
BP1 appendix was great for giving permission, I think BP itself dies say you can change what you want.
Is this 2nd Edition rules or 1st edition?
Pretty sure 2nd, but the rules are so similar.
So after one round of firing you'd have to start thinking about replacing the union regiment .... That's a bit ridiculous.
At times yes. There are a couple of things happening. The rules are written to have big games resolved in a decent time frame.
Second, it gives you decision points about how you use reserves and what to do about your line of fire.
Units that are struggling with stamina are still able to support effectively.
Oh and I forgot to mention, Stamina can be recovered. Again adding to the sense of managing that firing line.
Stamina can be recovered...well that's better 😀. I'm still learning these rules.
Very nice painting but underwhelmed by the rules. If Warlord had gone with actual 10mm, and offered the figures in a form where you could use them with traditional basing (1" frontage) for the rulesets that have been going for decades, then I may have bitten but this seems the worst of both worlds. If you are new to wargaming or the period I can see the attraction of buying everything in one box but the units as written don't seem to me to make for "epic" games - five stands frontage is about 10", so if you have a six foot by four foot table there isn't going to be much room to manoeuvre once you've deployed a couple of brigades per side on the table. And for me, that isn't "Epic".
Some good points. I've gone with 3 bases for regular and mixed in 1/2 bases for other rules. Kallistra are a decent match, and I already had a union army
I really like the look.of these, offering a great looking ranked up unit.
Interesting the Zouves and Iron Brigade look to be in strips.of 5.
@@Unclecthulu Obviously, if you already have the Kallistra figures for one army then the Warlord basic set is a good cheap way of getting some new figures although looking at the prices for the additional sets and comparing them to Kallistra's pricing the Warlord Zouaves etc seem expensive.
I like the look of the figures, I just don't like that I'd need to hack them about to base them for any of the rules I'd consider. And for me personally, I own 15mm troops already - if I'm going to go down a scale then it needs to be small enough to make a meaningful difference - and from 15mm to 13.5mm isn't enough for me personally - but I can completely see how it would work for you.
For me, I'd want 10mm figures, 8-10 per 1" stand, with each stand representing 60-80 men - which means each regiment would run from three stands for the smallest regiments (about 30 model figures) up to a dozen or so stands for the very largest. That would give a ground scale of about 1" to 40 yards, and you can work movement and firing ranges from that. It seems to me that having a ruleset like Warlord's where you have a "standard" regiment means that you lose a lot of the flavour you gain from managing different sized units.
And if you assume that the five stand Warlord regiment is a 1,000 man full strength unit then you get a ground scale of 1" to 50 yards, but if you assume the Warlord regiment is a more typical 400 to 500 man outfit then the ground scale for the game falls to 20 - 25 yards to the inch and your 6 foot by 4 foot table represents an area 1,800 yards by 1,200 yards. And you are back to your game representing a small area of a battlefield rather than the whole - which for me is not what "epic" represents...
The ACW was a bit different from the Napoleonic Wars in that you DID actually see entire units wiped out.
Not entire, I don’t believe any unit suffered 100% casualties, but yes, there are some abnormally high casualty rates compared to other 19th Century wars.
Why put soldiers on the field. Just play craps for the winner. 7 come 11.
Some times I feel that would be a solution! but it's nice to do something with my collection I've painted.
great stuff!