Thank you for your kind remarks. Think I needed a plastic bag over the speaker when I was riding it, maybe would have heard the engine better, rather than the wind noise. I love the bars, might fit clip ons this year to match my thunderbolt 👍
So nice to hear a proper enthusiast owners review. These are the only type of review you can properly take seriously. Not a big influencer given the bike by the manufacturer to say nice things about. You should get an action camera, you're a natural presenter. Thanks for taking the time to upload. Merry Christmas
I thought you eid a great job of the review, was a bit worried you were going to have a phone camera disaster at the start😊 but thankfully that didn't happen. We're the same generation and I was a London and country-wide Bike Courier on and off for over thirty years so I appreciated your no nonsense, down to earth, knowledgeable review. Merry Crimbo to you 😊👍.
Thanks I've only had the thunderbolt about 3 months, and every time I go out on it, it needs some kind of attention. So I suppose the little niggles on the new BSA is nothing in comparison 👍
Good looking bike, I've seen one with a de-cat pipe a proper swept back with a Golddie silencer make the bike a lot like the original bike back in the day.
I was thinking of the de cat option, but just the down pipe was about £300 then you've got to buy a back box. So I just drilled holes in my baffle free and to be fair, when your riding the bike, it sounds better and louder than on my videos, it's quite loud in real life, thanks👍
That's a good honest review from someone who actually owns and rides one of the new BSA's, the engine cutting out and engine management light coming on definitely needs investigating by the manufacture's, then I might actually buy one. Until then I will stick with my two B31's and my DBD 34
I can’t see them bothering to sort it out unless you give them a lot of grief, it’s not fit for purpose, it’s dangerous if it’s cutting out. The engine light could be a charging issue that could leave you stranded somewhere with a flat battery.
I love your review on bsa so down to earth you remind me of some of the bikers I meet in the iom tt late 80,s early 90,s camera holder exhaust it works coffee is better in filling stations 😊 H ireland.
Honest as ever and I’m glad you’re still enjoying the bike. The niggles and dangerous fuel leaks unfortunately were too much for me and it got sent back. BSA were extremely unhelpful and really don’t like honest fault reporting posts. I had the most lovely we don’t care email when they eventually replied. Stay safe and keep the films coming Merry Christmas 🎅🏼
The fuel leak is terrible and should be immediately sorted for safety reasons. I think BSA, not the dealers are not really interested what people say, they are letting this great bike and brand name down. , that's why I've raised these issues up on RUclips, at least they have no control over it, not like on forums. The more we shout, the more people listen.👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 spot on I dropped off the Facebook pages as BSA and Lukas were silently infiltrating but not willing to post any replies The recent bike show was a poor effort for the brand. No new models , same stand layout as the previous two and let’s paint one black Don’t start me on the twist on the shadow black name. Not very original
@@Eatzbugs-q2w no it occurred the week after my first service. Fuel was pumping out over the plug , ht lead and top of the exhaust. This coupled with the constant cutting out mid ride was too much for a brand new bike My bike was returned and I traded for another brand. Obviously at a loss to me. BSA did not want to know or were in the slightest interested at the time. It would appear they have made changes now and offer a better after sales support. Too late for me
Thanks for sharing. And good for you, you're riding again. To be honest I would not spent over 7000 € for this. Next to the real deal this looks very not so good. ( I had other expressions, but I like to stay polite) You enjoy it though, may it bring you a lot of precious moments.
Yes, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but, it's very reliable, rides brilliantly, handles great and massive on fuel economy. And for the price, you can't buy much better in England.👍
Love the shocks.....WOW....that back light makes AHUGE DIFFERENCE.....WHAT THE HELL WERE BSA THINKING????? I just love your Thunderbolt.....my sort of bike....I have only know brit bikes and think them works of Art. You have the best of both worlds Sir. I only stick to main roads this time of year....back lanes are to dirty what with rotting leaves and mud. Pity they paint the motor and dont leave em bare alloy as per the the old days. Your right it does sound good....better than the one I test rode for an hour. Not sure I would be as relaxed as you about the niggles.... Bye the way.....your camera idea is great.....your just like me.....sort it yourself.
We took one for a test ride a few months ago. The engine light came on whilst I was riding the bike. That's definitely not what you want to see whilst riding a brand new bike. In the end, it was the buzzy vibration at road speed revs which put us off plus it is a bit lacking in power compared to the bikes we're used to. Richard
I'm glad to hear that you are happy with your BSA . However you should get that engine light and "cutting out" issue sorted under warranty . I bought a Tiger 1200 last year and it had the "cutting out" issue and the damned thing was bloody dangerous ,cutting out half way across road intersections [ cross roads etc ] . I took it to the dealer I bought it from and it took them most of the day to sort it out , I wouldn't leave until it was fixed . Since then it's been trouble free . I doubt if your bike will fix itself . The new BSA company have just extended the warranty so there should be no problem .
BSA don't know what the problem is, just keep trying a load of trial and errors. I'll wait until they've found the real reason, it's now got 4 years warranty, so it could be a long wait.
@@awesomeappleby5923 .Well if you've taken the bike to the dealer to be fixed under warranty and they can't fix it , I'd be looking to return the faulty bike and get my money back or a replacement bike .
It is an interesting motorcycle for sure. I looked at one really closely and wasn't convinced but I still like big thumper classic idea... Good to know how it feels to own
Thanks, it's quite a very good effort from BSA first time out I think. And £6000 for the new shadow black is an amazing price for a bike looking this nice.👍
Love the clubman bars, just like ones on my W800 Cafe. Beautiful bike! Difference between Smith instruments clocks and Mahindra 's , Mahindra instruments will probably continue to function...same w/ Amal carbs vs. EFI. LOVE your bikes! Congratulations.
Clubman bars? I cannot see the bars from above, but it appears that the weld is not correct. The ends should be welded inside the U so the weld is a full 360 degree.
Nice coffee shop review. I think the ace bars and rear light are big improvements, the bike looks great. I'd go for the silver legacy edition. The engine management light and cutting out maybe linked and both need sorting out but these niggles are much less than you get on BMW's that can cost more than £20,000! 🤣
Bit noisy in that coffee shop, shouldn't have sat next to the till . The legacy is beautiful, but wasn't available in march when it was first released, so went for the black, Don't think I'll be buying a BMW soon then 😂👍
My brother and I tested the Gold Star early this year. I really liked the engine, nothing like a big single. However the back suspension was way too choppy for me. We didn't look at the suspension settings on a quick ride out. I like the rear shocks you have fitted, Makes it look really good. Thanks for a great review though.
No it dont feel like a big single. I'm 12 and a half stone, and setting number 3 was perfect. When I took my wife out , I put it in number 4 and all was still fine. Thanks 👍
Thisecclubmans made it look drop dead gorgeous ! Your bike is perfect 👌🏼 wish it had more hp like 60 hp or so but can’t expect much from a single with current emission norms
I love the look of it with the bars, your right, it could do with a few more horses, but, it revs really long in each gear that it creates a lot of fun in its own quirky way. 👍
I loved the look of the bsa and the strong torque I just got a bit fed up with the cutting out always seemed to happen at the wrong time!😂I got a £1k off the T100 as it was a pre reg and the colour I really wanted blue and tangerine and got £6k for the bsa
Yes, same here, the cutting out is ridiculous and BSA don't think it's a real problem, but, like you, you've left the brand already, so maybe they need to start listening. Great deal on your bike though 👍
phone quality is excellent mounting a bit higher would bhe the business, good owner review. The A65 was a brilliant bike, solid reliable, comfy, cruise easily 65-70, I like the stock livery though.
Thanks, I might try and do another one with it taped to my helmet, 😁 I do love the thunderbolt thought, it probably would cost a fortune to put it back to standard trim.👍
here in Western Pennsylvania just north of Pittsburgh, I have been riding since 1968. I don’t ever remember seeing a BSA dealership… One of my classmates dad’s had a 650 BSA.. while working for the company, I just retired from back in the 90s, I was in the meter reading department for years. I always kept my eye out for orphan motorcycles just sitting in peoples garage is, in the backyard, in the basement, and if I couldn’t contact someone that knew about it at the site, I would leave a note usually, I would say on the note, I am interested in this machine, I would like to buy it while there’s still something left to save .. i’ve actually had a couple motorcycles, just given to me to get them out of the garage. Both of them were Yamaha XS 650 twins.. being an exmechanic at three different dealerships when I was in my 20s, I would get these machines running and if I like them, I would ride them for a while, but anything I ever had was always for sale if anyone would ask.. I only regret selling two of my machines that people asked about. My Honda, CX 500 that I put upgraded fork, springs, and KONI shocks, CB 400 F bars, and I was able to get a turtle shell backseat like on the BMW R100 RS, but it was actually made for the CX 500 Canadian models. Some guy asked me if I would sell it to him. I asked him what he would pay. He offered me three times what I had in it. If you don’t sell when someone makes you an offer like that, it’s the same as paying that much for it yourself I regret selling that one. And my 1979 moto guzzi SP 1000… i’ve been finding videos by British riders here on RUclips like yourself. and I actually made my latest motorcycle purchase, because I was so influenced by the English writers that never have anything to say bad about the Honda nt700 .. The reviews I have seen on RUclips about these Hondas, this particular model, made me buy one that was for sale here in Western Pennsylvania. It’s a 2010, only 7500 miles on it, original owner… it hasn’t been repainted or modified, so I bought it after the test ride. but something happened on my first long test ride when I brought the machine home and went over it. It broke down. It ended up being what I think was debris left in the tank from the fuel that evaporated because the machine sat for years. My adding fresh gas and riding the bike loose and all that crap and that plugged the fuel pump filter.. That’s the first time since the 1970s that I had to go and rescue one of my machines broke down. The first one was my Kawasaki A7SS 350 avenger… They had a nasty little habit of sheering off the rotary valves.. now that I think of it, that was around 50 years ago.. your BSA video has me interested. All of a sudden, there are two dealers that are selling triumphs.and Royal Enfield machines.. I wasn’t really thrilled with the Himalaya machine, or the two 650s royal Enfield has available here now. But that single you have, I like it. i’m gonna be going over the videos on RUclips about this machine like a fly on fly paper to get feedback from owners like yourself.. watching this video you have you made with your phone, can I suggest a Camera? I don’t even know if they still make this camera model, but I bought a SENA. prism tube camera that comes with a bracket sort of like a microphone holder that the camera snaps into on the side of the helmet. It is literally like a 4 inch section of your handlebars, or a roll of United States nickel coins.. there is only one setting for this camera. On or off. You can turn it on or off with gloves on. my camera actually fell off one day at about 50 miles an hour. A buddy was riding behind me that day, and he saw something fall off my bike. So he stopped and picked it up. And he handed it to me at the next traffic light. It was my camera. He said it bounced about 5 feet in the air off of the asphalt. it had no bad effects on the camera. It got a couple scuffs on it, but that’s it. The body of the camera is metal. I use the included external microphone that came with the camera. It comes on the end of a. wire, and I mount the microphone wrapped in a foam, rubber wind sock inside my helmet in the ear pocket. The external microphone is only about the size of a peanut out of the shell. if you would like to see a sample of the types of video and the sound recorded with the external mic stuffed inside the earpocket of my helmet- here are just a couple of the videos I have on RUclips using the Sena prism tube, helmet camera with the included external microphone (Kawasaki Z 400 BS from the book of common knowledge) and ( royal star venture Long way home) I’ll be checking your videos out, keeping an eye on your BSA reviews. Thanks.
Thank you for your very interesting story, And great advice on a decent camera, I will watch your recommended videos as I will definitely be making better quality videos in the future, think I've got the bug now. The only trouble with most BSA gold star reviews on you tube, is , they are not owner reviews, they have been given a free ride on the dealers bike to review it, so you might not get a full honest review, because, obviously, if they slag it off too much, the dealer won't sell many. Good luck in your search for a new bike though 👍
You could have remained with Japanese, take a look at a GB500tt, a 500 single with much the same performance as the old and new Goldstar, it just seems to be the style you are looking for.
Yes, to be honest, I just go for looks on a motorbike, if it looks nice to me , I'll probably buy it. I sold my Kawasaki z900 1976 to get this gold star, so it must have had something about it to sway me. 👍
At a glance I like it, but it's an old Enfield frame with a Rotax engine, kerb weight 213kg, there are twins way lighter than that with more capacity, I'd prefer a sorted B33 really tough engine, some lads had one with trials tyres on the local common treated it like a speedway bike until the clutch started slipping so they rode it home and it sounded as sweet as when it arrived. In 1977
You can't beat the sound of a b33, DBD 34 or any old British bike, These new euro regs have killed all that Weight is not a problem, it's very low down, I'm 63 and it still feels very light to me . Thanks for your comment 👍
Yes shame they should have sorted it first,my dealer resold my BSA the same day traded it in but the new owner returned it and it had to be taken back to the BSA dealership to sort it I believe the owner is happy with it now
Good to see someone putting drops on, I personally felt this is what the bike needed to really get the look of the old one. Do you mind me asking what bars they are please? I don't have a Gold Star but I think they might look ok on Classic 350 too.
Thanks,. I just got some cheap ones off eBay 7/8" ,under £40. the main thing I found was, you have to make sure the depth is quite big to go around your clocks, if I had shorter depth,then the brake cylinder reservoir would have dug into the clocks. Just measure from where your handle bars are clamped at the moment to where it would clear your clocks, and that's the size of bars you need. MMCC- UK Was the eBay supplier , but think they are not on eBay anymore. Hope that don't sound confusing, good luck 🫣👍
That radiator looks like such an after thought. Reminds me of a model T ford. BSA needs to redesign the radiator to contour of the frame. Triumph did such a better job of their radiator.
Yes, it is a shame. Unfortunately, there is nothing other you can do with the radiator. Because it's a single cylinder, it needs it that size for new emissions. Whereas triumph are a twin, so can be cooled with a smaller oil rad . It's the unfortunate price to pay for a modern good looking single 650 cylinder nowadays. But to be honest, when you own one, the beauty of the overhaul bike makes you accept the rad for what it is, I've had Bonnie's. And the BSA as an owner is more pleasing to the eye in your shed 👍
The ace bars definitely make your bike look more authentic, as do the shrouded rear shocks & number plate bracket. But with that engine management warning light & occasional stalling, think I'll stick with my Interceptor.
Yes, the stalling is worrying, but apparently, it's only on a few, and no one knows why. Some have told me it happens to a lot of bikes now, even Enfields and triumph, so I suppose it's lucky dip nowadays 🫣👍
Very Interresting. I am 73 years old and have been riding a Kawasaki W650 (1999) for 25 years ( kind of Bonneville without oil on the ground in my garage ) . I plan to buying this new BSA . Your opinion will help me to make a decision. Thank you so much . Fabrice , from France .
I love all Kawasaki's, but I sold my z900 1976 to purchase this gold star. I just wanted to own the BSA brand, but like you , with no oil drips 👍 Don't think it will be similar to the w650, as the goldie is water cooled and yours is air cooled, but you should still love it anyway. Good luck 🤞👍
Great real world review. The exhaust weld is ridiculous - to put all that effort into recreating an authentic looking 60’s bike and then spoiling it with such a crass detail beggars belief. The cutting out is down right dangerous and that needs fixing. I think current emission standards are pushing the abilities of some manufacturers to produce suitable mapping. The headlight cracking happened on TEC’s own development bike so it is an issue- good luck with yours. Anyway keep posting and let’s see how you get on with it over time - ride safe.
Thanks, Yes I agree, it's running too lean for emissions, it need someone clever to re map it. I'm paranoid about the headlight, check it every time I get off it. ,,👍
You are correct re the cutting out , as I said mine has been returned and I’ve brought a different brand. The cutting out was awful and in the middle of a traffic junction it’s not what you need. Happened several times per ride too.
Just thinking of dropping wedge on one,I've had most bike out there,old and new,new bullets old and new Enfields,I've not see one yet in the flesh,how dose it compare power wise to say a 500 bullet? It really dose look the business! I believe the motor is basically the old rotax bmw f 650 lump,so should be good Enjoy your bsa that's what it's all about!
Go for it, they really are good bikes. A lot more power than the bullet, on par with the interceptor. Good for carrying a pillion, does a ton. Loads of torque, engine is awesome 👍
mine cuts out too at the junctions however, if the engine is hot, let's say after 15 miles riding, this cut out problem stops. I assume the upcoming firmware update will address this problem as well as the engine light
It's not nice is it. Mine still does it even when warmed up, The firmware update has been going on since last may, some say it works, some say it gets worse and had to have it reversed? I might let them do mine on my next service and see what happens, I'll probably do another video on the findings 👍😁
@@awesomeappleby5923 looking forward to the video post the firmware update if you decide on that. This would be interesting. Other than this, the BSA is wonderful.
Nice review, I think a lot of these new euro 5 bikes run too lean, I test rode a RE650 continental GT which kept cutting out at junctions when shutting the throttle. I like the bars, what make are they? I ride a 2007 Moto Guzzi and even that runs too lean and cuts out every now and then at junctions, I will eventually get it remapped. The video wasn't too bad considering it was just done on the phone, might benefit by moving it up a bit higher if possible.
Seems this cutting out is not only BSA's problem, it's quite annoying and embarrassing sometimes. The bars were just cheap ones off eBay. £35.90. but looks like seller ( MMCC-UK) is not on eBay anymore. I can give you dimensions of mine so you get the correct clearances if required. Definitely upgrading the camera for next time Thanks 👍
Mine is quite noisy, and think a few have said there's is. Obviously, goes when you're going quickly, A simple thing like a noisy fuel pump was overlook when it was designed I suppose 👍
That’s a very nice looking bike. The cutting out I’ve seen mentioned on lots of videos on lots of bikes, Royal Enfields especially, seems the engines are tight and just need bedding in. That might help and maybe a ECU update from the dealer too. Sure it’s just a niggle and you have a 4 year warranty aswell. I do like the new BSA it’s just a bit too small for my size really. Shame. Happy Christmas btw.
They are very much the same to ride having similar bars on , Just harder starting the thunderbolt, and dare not go too far, for fear of something falling off or breaking , which has happened a few times. So if I want a no worry ride, it's the new gold star, if I want an eventful and interesting ride, it's the thunderbolt , also, the thunderbolt get lots more attention from the public, even cars stop to take photos, And if you pull up anywhere, you've got not chance of getting away quickly. I think they think it's a DBD 34 gold star. 😁👍
I purchased the shocks from a company called TEC, but have heard they don't have any left in stock, they do have a website to check. Have you seen my other video of me fitting the new shocks to my bike. I didn't think there was anything wrong with the originals that came with the bike, I just changed them for their looks, performance wise, they both feel the same to me .👍
Thanks, sorry, did you mean how did I change the rear end, if so, I have another video of fitting it, in my other videos on RUclips if that helps. Just let us know if not 👍
I'd like to see a riding comparison between this new bsa and the thunderbolt, I'm in the process of renovating an A65 lightning which I've not riden yet.
They are unbelievably very similar to ride and handle with the similar bars on, for saying they are made 50 years apart. And made by totally different people, but I suppose, this new gold star was designed in England by real British enthusiast. When the weather gets better, might take them both out on the same run to compare, but use a better camera next time.
Hi I had the BSA legacy edition earlier this year like you I’ve had almost every Royal Enfield since 2018 I wasn’t impressed with my BSA 650 I traded it in after 2 months for a new T100
Yes, for price , I suppose, there's limits to quality and things, but, triumph is over £3000 dearer, and was too much out of my budget, so had to go for the best cheapo bike on offer 👍
All engines run too lean these days it can be a problem for cutting out. There should be or might be an idle adjust screw on the throttle body just tweak it up a bit see if that helps.
Hi, great to hear you get yours on Friday,. I got a cheap light and fitting from eBay, the username is classic bike shop. It was £37.95. But i was told a Lucas rear light fitting was better and gives you more room to fit the inners without butchering them too much like I did, lol. Have you seen my other RUclips video on changing the rear light fitting 👍
Thanks, I might try the battery trick, think a few have done that already.. I did know how to turn it off easily when I first got it, but I've not used it for that long I can't remember what I did, BSA are not bothered about the engine management light 🫣, they said its no problem?👍
No, they can't get the right sound we would like, due to all the new emission regulations, that's why I've been messing with the baffle plate, when you first get them with the baffle in, they sound more like an Honda 90 😂👍
All one would be hoping for, is modern(ish) braking?.. flat spots at roundabouts, are not welcome..(coming from a rear-ender victim).. They say the key to happiness, is lowering expectations...[i do not doubt that to be true, but have minimal insurance, in any case).
@@awesomeappleby5923 I'm guessing it's efi, (carbs are mysterious enough for me)...flat spots would be a signal issue? (I dont know if throttle bodies have a mixture and idle screws?). The more I learn, the more I want old tech, tbh. I need to change fork-oil, on upside down forks, on a bike with no centre-stand..🙄 (eye-rolls alright?).
A motorcyclist would want to learn about the weight, the vibration, the frame geometry, the suspension choices. A consumer is concerned about the appearance of the radiator.
They're just niggles as you say & wish my Royal Enfields i owned only had just little niggles & put me off the brand altogether. On looks alone you've got a nicer looking machine than the Interceptor that i find cheap & tacky looking.
Sorry to hear about your Enfields, I had similar problems and that's one of the reasons I wanted to try the Goldie. And I agree, I think it's a far better looker than my Enfields.
They should have had a bit higher price point and then they could have sold it with quality in period switch gear rather than the generic switch gear they have fitted, made a better job of the offensive USB pod! the ridiculous large radiator and the patchy paint finish and plastic mudguards and engine covers. Enfield have made a better job with their 650 but they all suffer from being way to heavy, example the new Enfield 650 shotgun weighs 240kg! FFS a 1970 triumph 650 Bonneville weighs 181kg and has a power output of 50HP.
I've had 2 interceptors, and they are as bad, but for £6000, you can't expect much more, you do get a lot of bike for your money though. And I definitely wouldn't want to pay £10,000 like a triumph just for not a lot more, and I've had Bonneville's. It's just modern ways unfortunately., thanks for the comment 👍
Maybe I should of mentioned it on the video, but, It's always done it before the baffle was removed, and it's still happening on brand new ones now , straight from the shop, unfortunately.👍
To reset. Use timer. Start for 40 seconds. Stop for 15secs with key. Then repeat . Usually 3 or 4 times. But you need to take to dealer for ecu reset. Resets the parameters and should resolve. My dealer said he.s had 3 out of 50 ish bikes with this prob.
Yes, thanks, I forgot what to do at the time, but not bothered about it anymore, as even BSA said it's not a problem to the engine. I read some of these ecu resets made them worse and they took them back to be put back to normal. I suppose, the dealers won't know how many will do it yet, because when it happened last march, it was when it was cold, and there wasn't many sold, But now, there hundreds sold, so , only in the coming months will we know if it's a bigger problem than everyone thinks. They've got 4 years to sort it through 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 Mine doing it. Dealer said if they do reset before it leaves the shop it can cause problems on bikes where the fault is.nt present. So reset and see. Then bring in for flash if it comes on again. So taking mine after Xmas. Says its a ten minute job. My dealer only 7mile away so no problem.
As a follow up mine just had 500 service. Light never came on after twice in first week so dealer said leave it. Done 500 mile since it last came on so looks like it was just settling down . Fitted tec baffle. Just gives a little more noise without being silly. Only £18
Hi, I know BSA should have fitted a center stand, but to be honest, I've had it 10 months and never had the need for one. And if it's only to lubricate the chain, then i do this in my shed on a paddock stand. Maybe they will fit one one day 👍
Very good, I just click the rear suspension up one notch, still pulls 70-80 on motorway ok . It is only an A2 restricted bike, so not going to do any miracle's 👍
I built and rebuilt a ´57 B33, and I've ridden a Gold Star. This may be a fine machine but if you call it something it is clearly not, in my book you´ve made a fake. It bears only superficial resemblance to a Goldie if you don´t know much about them - if you do, it's a travesty which, if it had an honest identity, would stand or fall on its own merit. If you are upping the spec to discs, (I know, drum brakes are expensive to make) then why stick with spokes, tubes and puncture outfits? Those who enjoy riding this bike would find a real Goldie, with its close ratio gearbox, a very difficult and demanding ride, and dealing with a set of points or a carburettor would not go well by the roadside. Your warning lights can be operated via Bluetooth if fitted, your dealer knows where you are, your mileage, and can encourage you to visit by flashing all your warning lights at once. It happened to my Honda until I tinfoiled the Bluetooth internals. He can probably cut the ignition if you are on HP and fail on a payment. No wonder you ride the real BSA.
Yes, it's only a modern copy of the original gold star, but to people like me who cannot afford the real thing or want to use it as daily bike, then it's as close as we can get to the real thing.👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 At least you won't be maintaining a Lucas Magdyno, that used to be as much work as the rest of the bike put together. You won´t need to 12 volt it, fit a better (Triumph) clutch or start searching for green brake linings ...... Yes, I´d do the same except I´m now "old enough" to ride a scooter.
Whoa, at 76, your probably best to keep away from a DBD 34, the kickstart alone mine put you in hospital 😂👍 Seriously, your right, I would love a DBD but don't have £18,000 🫣👍
It's doable with no rear sets, but brings on cramp quicker than that of having rear sets, unfortunately, no one makes them yet for this BSA is that new. I manage about 20 miles before I need a coffee stop 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 You know exactly what number plate. The bike isn't a classic and should have a yellow plate with black text. Check the legislation or speak to a bobby or MOT inspector.
there's plenty of good singles around, made fot road and field. paying money for nostalgia, bloat and poor performance is a personal choice, but is an empty badge name really what you want?
Yes, to be honest, I did only buy it for the badge (BSA) and also the curiosity. I am not really interested in modern bikes anyway, I love old Kawasaki's , but it must of had something to catch my eye, because I sold my Kawasaki z900 1976 for it. 🫣👍
You cannot compare proper BSAs with a badge engineered Mahindra hybrid and your statement about how it sounds it sounds nothing like the proper thing you cant replicate the sound of a low reving long stroke engine with a short stroke higher reving engine. I am not saying the bike doesnt look good but on all fronts it is not remotely a comparison with the proper goldy
Agreed, but I wouldn't know where to start if I had a real Goldie, like starting it, maintaining it, etc, having said that, I'm still tempted to buy a real one to see what's it all about 👍
Yes, I suppose it's not an original BSA. But it was designed here in England with real British bike enthusiasts, so, it's as close we're going to get to a real BSA with Indians making it 👍.
What is a Beezer anyway? I've had a new one and old ones in the 60s and 70s and magneto ignition was no less problematic than modern ECU. Now I'm riding an AJS. Made in CHINA. I know what is, it's an AJS lol.
Unfortunately, it's the price you have to pay for a single 650 nowadays, because of new emissions. BSA could have copped out and made a twin like Enfield or triumph, but think this single engine is better to look at and you don't notice the rad when you own one,👍
After your modifications, the bike looks amazing! 👍
Thanks, I just want a race seat and rear sets , then think it's finished 👍
I really like your review what a brilliant idea with the phone and the sound is great. Looks good with the drops on.
Thank you for your kind remarks.
Think I needed a plastic bag over the speaker when I was riding it, maybe would have heard the engine better, rather than the wind noise.
I love the bars, might fit clip ons this year to match my thunderbolt 👍
So nice to hear a proper enthusiast owners review. These are the only type of review you can properly take seriously. Not a big influencer given the bike by the manufacturer to say nice things about.
You should get an action camera, you're a natural presenter.
Thanks for taking the time to upload.
Merry Christmas
Thanks, your comments are greatly appreciated.
I nearly never uploaded it.
Definitely getting a better set up for future filming. 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 I do recommend a DJI Action 3 or Action 4. More reliable than Gopro and easy to use.
I thought you eid a great job of the review, was a bit worried you were going to have a phone camera disaster at the start😊 but thankfully that didn't happen. We're the same generation and I was a London and country-wide Bike Courier on and off for over thirty years so I appreciated your no nonsense, down to earth, knowledgeable review. Merry Crimbo to you 😊👍.
I thought my phone would pop out and end up in the road,
My first effort nearly did, I managed to catch it in mid air 🫣👍
Hey! Here's an idea. Let's put a tractor radiator on the bike & an exhaust pipe that sticks out into the next lane....
lol 😆👍
Great real rider review, nice mods. I am in New Zealand and I would buy one IF they are ever sold here!
Thanks, it'll probably be a long while to arrive in NZ but it will be worth the wait.👍
Good honest review. Happy Christmas to you. 👍
Thanks, happy Christmas
changes you made really improve the looks, like to see a riding comparison between the BSA and the Fantic Cabellero. Love a light single!
Singles are great, just too many fuel restrictions now to get the correct sound out of them. Thanks 👍
good short review mate, thank you, ignore the naysayers i’ve had old beezers and they can be bloody trying to say the least😂👍
Thanks
I've only had the thunderbolt about 3 months, and every time I go out on it, it needs some kind of attention.
So I suppose the little niggles on the new BSA is nothing in comparison 👍
Thank you for taking the time interesting review.. honest. I am not too sure about all these retro bikes myself at the moment.. but thank you..
Thank you,
yes, very nice bikes, but think they might need a bit more time to make them more perfect 👍
More informative than most, good one
Thanks, just saying it, how it really is 👍
Good looking bike, I've seen one with a de-cat pipe a proper swept back with a Golddie silencer make the bike a lot like the original bike back in the day.
I was thinking of the de cat option, but just the down pipe was about £300 then you've got to buy a back box.
So I just drilled holes in my baffle free and to be fair, when your riding the bike, it sounds better and louder than on my videos, it's quite loud in real life, thanks👍
That's a good honest review from someone who actually owns and rides one of the new BSA's, the engine cutting out and engine management light coming on definitely needs investigating by the manufacture's, then I might actually buy one. Until then I will stick with my two B31's and my DBD 34
I'll swap both mine for your dbd 34 🫣👍 they've got 4 years warranty to sort all the problems out, if there listening 🙉, thanks
I can’t see them bothering to sort it out unless you give them a lot of grief, it’s not fit for purpose, it’s dangerous if it’s cutting out. The engine light could be a charging issue that could leave you stranded somewhere with a flat battery.
Good review, keep them coming.
Thank you, I'm thinking of doing a test with both my bikes, the old versus the new , see what comparisons there are👍
That’s a man in love with his bikes 👍enjoy
Thanks 👍
I love your review on bsa so down to earth you remind me of some of the bikers I meet in the iom tt late 80,s early 90,s camera holder exhaust it works coffee is better in filling stations 😊 H ireland.
Thanks, I've never been to the TT, but wouldn't mind taking me goldie over 👍
What a sweet heart. Keep riding. Take a Norton 961 cr for a test ride. You will love it. It's very similar to my 650ss.
I would love a Norton, but at nearly triple the price of this beeza , unfortunately, it would only be a dream to me 👍
Honest as ever and I’m glad you’re still enjoying the bike. The niggles and dangerous fuel leaks unfortunately were too much for me and it got sent back. BSA were extremely unhelpful and really don’t like honest fault reporting posts. I had the most lovely we don’t care email when they eventually replied.
Stay safe and keep the films coming
Merry Christmas 🎅🏼
The fuel leak is terrible and should be immediately sorted for safety reasons.
I think BSA, not the dealers are not really interested what people say, they are letting this great bike and brand name down.
, that's why I've raised these issues up on RUclips, at least they have no control over it, not like on forums.
The more we shout, the more people listen.👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 spot on
I dropped off the Facebook pages as BSA and Lukas were silently infiltrating but not willing to post any replies
The recent bike show was a poor effort for the brand. No new models , same stand layout as the previous two and let’s paint one black
Don’t start me on the twist on the shadow black name. Not very original
Dangerous fuel leaks?
Thinking of getting a gold star, was it a recall on your bike?
@@Eatzbugs-q2w no it occurred the week after my first service. Fuel was pumping out over the plug , ht lead and top of the exhaust. This coupled with the constant cutting out mid ride was too much for a brand new bike
My bike was returned and I traded for another brand. Obviously at a loss to me. BSA did not want to know or were in the slightest interested at the time. It would appear they have made changes now and offer a better after sales support. Too late for me
Very stylish and like your mods.
Thanks, does make it look better.
Interesting video.like what you've done to the back end but I'll stick with my pre unit.
Thanks,
The light was quite difficult as no one had done it on video before I did it, so it was a bit tricky.
Thanks for sharing. And good for you, you're riding again. To be honest I would not spent over 7000 € for this. Next to the real deal this looks very not so good. ( I had other expressions, but I like to stay polite) You enjoy it though, may it bring you a lot of precious moments.
Yes, it's not everyone's cup of tea, but, it's very reliable, rides brilliantly, handles great and massive on fuel economy.
And for the price, you can't buy much better in England.👍
Love the shocks.....WOW....that back light makes AHUGE DIFFERENCE.....WHAT THE HELL WERE BSA THINKING?????
I just love your Thunderbolt.....my sort of bike....I have only know brit bikes and think them works of Art.
You have the best of both worlds Sir.
I only stick to main roads this time of year....back lanes are to dirty what with rotting leaves and mud.
Pity they paint the motor and dont leave em bare alloy as per the the old days.
Your right it does sound good....better than the one I test rode for an hour.
Not sure I would be as relaxed as you about the niggles....
Bye the way.....your camera idea is great.....your just like me.....sort it yourself.
I am a master bodger, that was a dirty old rag from my workshop holding it on to me 🫣lol.
Nice video. Very informative. Thanx!
Cheers, hope it helps someone 👍
We took one for a test ride a few months ago. The engine light came on whilst I was riding the bike. That's definitely not what you want to see whilst riding a brand new bike. In the end, it was the buzzy vibration at road speed revs which put us off plus it is a bit lacking in power compared to the bikes we're used to.
Richard
That engine light is a nuisance, think my drilling holes in the middle baffle has give it some more poke, because mines, really fast now.👍
I'm glad to hear that you are happy with your BSA . However you should get that engine light and "cutting out" issue sorted under warranty . I bought a Tiger 1200 last year and it had the "cutting out" issue and the damned thing was bloody dangerous ,cutting out half way across road intersections [ cross roads etc ] . I took it to the dealer I bought it from and it took them most of the day to sort it out , I wouldn't leave until it was fixed . Since then it's been trouble free .
I doubt if your bike will fix itself . The new BSA company have just extended the warranty so there should be no problem .
BSA don't know what the problem is, just keep trying a load of trial and errors.
I'll wait until they've found the real reason, it's now got 4 years warranty, so it could be a long wait.
@@awesomeappleby5923 .Well if you've taken the bike to the dealer to be fixed under warranty and they can't fix it , I'd be looking to return the faulty bike and get my money back or a replacement bike .
Did they give you any idea what was actually wrong?...
It is an interesting motorcycle for sure. I looked at one really closely and wasn't convinced but I still like big thumper classic idea... Good to know how it feels to own
Thanks, it's quite a very good effort from BSA first time out I think.
And £6000 for the new shadow black is an amazing price for a bike looking this nice.👍
Love the clubman bars, just like ones on my W800 Cafe. Beautiful bike! Difference between Smith instruments clocks and Mahindra 's , Mahindra instruments will probably continue to function...same w/ Amal carbs vs. EFI. LOVE your bikes! Congratulations.
Yes, EFI is rubbish nowadays with all the restrictions. Thanks 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 trying to find an exhaust that will replace E4 restricted pipes w/o remapping intake and injection. Challenge! Ride safe!
Clubman bars? I cannot see the bars from above, but it appears that the weld is not correct. The ends should be welded inside the U so the weld is a full 360 degree.
Nice coffee shop review. I think the ace bars and rear light are big improvements, the bike looks great. I'd go for the silver legacy edition. The engine management light and cutting out maybe linked and both need sorting out but these niggles are much less than you get on BMW's that can cost more than £20,000! 🤣
Bit noisy in that coffee shop, shouldn't have sat next to the till .
The legacy is beautiful, but wasn't available in march when it was first released, so went for the black,
Don't think I'll be buying a BMW soon then 😂👍
Stick with the BSA. The Gold Star and a noisy coffee shop go well together.😊
Can't wait to get myself one 😁
There great, good luck with getting one,👍
My brother and I tested the Gold Star early this year. I really liked the engine, nothing like a big single. However the back suspension was way too choppy for me. We didn't look at the suspension settings on a quick ride out. I like the rear shocks you have fitted, Makes it look really good. Thanks for a great review though.
No it dont feel like a big single.
I'm 12 and a half stone, and setting number 3 was perfect.
When I took my wife out , I put it in number 4 and all was still fine. Thanks 👍
Really look aunthentic and cool👍
Thanks, that's what I was hoping to achieve 👍
Thisecclubmans made it look drop dead gorgeous ! Your bike is perfect 👌🏼 wish it had more hp like 60 hp or so but can’t expect much from a single with current emission norms
I love the look of it with the bars,
your right, it could do with a few more horses, but, it revs really long in each gear that it creates a lot of fun in its own quirky way. 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 that’s nice to know
I loved the look of the bsa and the strong torque I just got a bit fed up with the cutting out always seemed to happen at the wrong time!😂I got a £1k off the T100 as it was a pre reg and the colour I really wanted blue and tangerine and got £6k for the bsa
Yes, same here, the cutting out is ridiculous and BSA don't think it's a real problem, but, like you, you've left the brand already, so maybe they need to start listening.
Great deal on your bike though 👍
lovely old thumper beautiful
Who, me or the bike 😂 , thanks 👍
Warranty issues are fairly common on this new BSA. I might consider one when the niggles have been sorted out. Love and peace.
Not sure if the recent models are still getting any issues, but , I suppose, not all of them are like it, so it's lucky dip, .👍
phone quality is excellent mounting a bit higher would bhe the business, good owner review. The A65 was a brilliant bike, solid reliable, comfy, cruise easily 65-70, I like the stock livery though.
Thanks, I might try and do another one with it taped to my helmet, 😁
I do love the thunderbolt thought, it probably would cost a fortune to put it back to standard trim.👍
Nice review young man.
Thanks 👍
here in Western Pennsylvania just north of Pittsburgh, I have been riding since 1968. I don’t ever remember seeing a BSA dealership…
One of my classmates dad’s had a 650 BSA..
while working for the company, I just retired from back in the 90s, I was in the meter reading department for years. I always kept my eye out for orphan motorcycles just sitting in peoples garage is, in the backyard, in the basement, and if I couldn’t contact someone that knew about it at the site, I would leave a note
usually, I would say on the note, I am interested in this machine, I would like to buy it while there’s still something left to save .. i’ve actually had a couple motorcycles, just given to me to get them out of the garage. Both of them were Yamaha XS 650 twins.. being an exmechanic at three different dealerships when I was in my 20s, I would get these machines running and if I like them, I would ride them for a while, but anything I ever had was always for sale if anyone would ask.. I only regret selling two of my machines that people asked about. My Honda, CX 500 that I put upgraded fork, springs, and KONI shocks, CB 400 F bars, and I was able to get a turtle shell backseat like on the BMW R100 RS, but it was actually made for the CX 500 Canadian models. Some guy asked me if I would sell it to him. I asked him what he would pay. He offered me three times what I had in it. If you don’t sell when someone makes you an offer like that, it’s the same as paying that much for it yourself I regret selling that one. And my 1979 moto guzzi SP 1000…
i’ve been finding videos by British riders here on RUclips like yourself. and I actually made my latest motorcycle purchase, because I was so influenced by the English writers that never have anything to say bad about the Honda nt700 .. The reviews I have seen on RUclips about these Hondas, this particular model, made me buy one that was for sale here in Western Pennsylvania. It’s a 2010, only 7500 miles on it, original owner…
it hasn’t been repainted or modified, so I bought it after the test ride.
but something happened on my first long test ride when I brought the machine home and went over it. It broke down. It ended up being what I think was debris left in the tank from the fuel that evaporated because the machine sat for years. My adding fresh gas and riding the bike loose and all that crap and that plugged the fuel pump filter.. That’s the first time since the 1970s that I had to go and rescue one of my machines broke down. The first one was my Kawasaki A7SS 350 avenger… They had a nasty little habit of sheering off the rotary valves.. now that I think of it, that was around 50 years ago..
your BSA video has me interested. All of a sudden, there are two dealers that are selling triumphs.and Royal Enfield machines.. I wasn’t really thrilled with the Himalaya machine, or the two 650s royal Enfield has available here now. But that single you have, I like it.
i’m gonna be going over the videos on RUclips about this machine like a fly on fly paper to get feedback from owners like yourself..
watching this video you have you made with your phone, can I suggest a Camera? I don’t even know if they still make this camera model, but I bought a SENA. prism tube camera that comes with a bracket sort of like a microphone holder that the camera snaps into on the side of the helmet. It is literally like a 4 inch section of your handlebars, or a roll of United States nickel coins.. there is only one setting for this camera. On or off. You can turn it on or off with gloves on.
my camera actually fell off one day at about 50 miles an hour. A buddy was riding behind me that day, and he saw something fall off my bike. So he stopped and picked it up. And he handed it to me at the next traffic light. It was my camera. He said it bounced about 5 feet in the air off of the asphalt. it had no bad effects on the camera. It got a couple scuffs on it, but that’s it. The body of the camera is metal. I use the included external microphone that came with the camera. It comes on the end of a. wire, and I mount the microphone wrapped in a foam, rubber wind sock inside my helmet in the ear pocket. The external microphone is only about the size of a peanut out of the shell.
if you would like to see a sample of the types of video and the sound recorded with the external mic stuffed inside the earpocket of my helmet- here are just a couple of the videos I have on RUclips using the Sena prism tube, helmet camera with the included external microphone
(Kawasaki Z 400 BS from the book of common knowledge)
and
( royal star venture Long way home)
I’ll be checking your videos out, keeping an eye on your BSA reviews. Thanks.
Thank you for your very interesting story,
And great advice on a decent camera, I will watch your recommended videos as I will definitely be making better quality videos in the future, think I've got the bug now.
The only trouble with most BSA gold star reviews on you tube, is , they are not owner reviews, they have been given a free ride on the dealers bike to review it, so you might not get a full honest review, because, obviously, if they slag it off too much, the dealer won't sell many.
Good luck in your search for a new bike though 👍
You could have remained with Japanese, take a look at a GB500tt, a 500 single with much the same performance as the old and new Goldstar, it just seems to be the style you are looking for.
Yes, to be honest, I just go for looks on a motorbike, if it looks nice to me , I'll probably buy it.
I sold my Kawasaki z900 1976 to get this gold star, so it must have had something about it to sway me. 👍
At a glance I like it, but it's an old Enfield frame with a Rotax engine, kerb weight 213kg, there are twins way lighter than that with more capacity, I'd prefer a sorted B33 really tough engine, some lads had one with trials tyres on the local common treated it like a speedway bike until the clutch started slipping so they rode it home and it sounded as sweet as when it arrived. In 1977
You can't beat the sound of a b33, DBD 34 or any old British bike,
These new euro regs have killed all that
Weight is not a problem, it's very low down, I'm 63 and it still feels very light to me . Thanks for your comment 👍
Yes shame they should have sorted it first,my dealer resold my BSA the same day traded it in but the new owner returned it and it had to be taken back to the BSA dealership to sort it
I believe the owner is happy with it now
That's good to hear, they finally sorted the problem out 👍
nice review, hopefully they can sort out the niggles. Happy Christmas
Thanks, I hope so, it is a really good bike, happy Christmas 👍
Good to see someone putting drops on, I personally felt this is what the bike needed to really get the look of the old one. Do you mind me asking what bars they are please? I don't have a Gold Star but I think they might look ok on Classic 350 too.
Thanks,.
I just got some cheap ones off eBay 7/8" ,under £40.
the main thing I found was, you have to make sure the depth is quite big to go around your clocks, if I had shorter depth,then the brake cylinder reservoir would have dug into the clocks.
Just measure from where your handle bars are clamped at the moment to where it would clear your clocks, and that's the size of bars you need.
MMCC- UK Was the eBay supplier , but think they are not on eBay anymore.
Hope that don't sound confusing, good luck 🫣👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 thank you, that makes sense, not confusing, I will take a look there. Ride safe 🙂
That radiator looks like such an after thought. Reminds me of a model T ford. BSA needs to redesign the radiator to contour of the frame. Triumph did such a better job of their radiator.
Yes, it is a shame.
Unfortunately, there is nothing other you can do with the radiator.
Because it's a single cylinder, it needs it that size for new emissions.
Whereas triumph are a twin, so can be cooled with a smaller oil rad .
It's the unfortunate price to pay for a modern good looking single 650 cylinder nowadays.
But to be honest, when you own one, the beauty of the overhaul bike makes you accept the rad for what it is, I've had Bonnie's. And the BSA as an owner is more pleasing to the eye in your shed 👍
Wonder if it will ever come to the USA? They said 2023 but thats not going to happen. I liked your honest review.
Think it will be a long while for it to get to America unfortunately.
Thanks 👍
The ace bars definitely make your bike look more authentic, as do the shrouded rear shocks & number plate bracket. But with that engine management warning light & occasional stalling, think I'll stick with my Interceptor.
Yes, the stalling is worrying, but apparently, it's only on a few, and no one knows why.
Some have told me it happens to a lot of bikes now, even Enfields and triumph, so I suppose it's lucky dip nowadays 🫣👍
Motorbikes are all things to all people. Ride whatever pushes your buttons.
Great philosophy 👍
Engine sounds good. Feet on the pegs or off threw the puddle? Good info at an entertaining pace. Thanks
Feet on pegs, It wasn't that deep really, thanks 🫣👍
Very Interresting. I am 73 years old and have been riding a Kawasaki W650 (1999) for 25 years ( kind of Bonneville without oil on the ground in my garage ) . I plan to buying this new BSA . Your opinion will help me to make a decision. Thank you so much . Fabrice , from France .
I love all Kawasaki's, but I sold my z900 1976 to purchase this gold star.
I just wanted to own the BSA brand, but like you , with no oil drips 👍
Don't think it will be similar to the w650, as the goldie is water cooled and yours is air cooled, but you should still love it anyway. Good luck 🤞👍
Great real world review. The exhaust weld is ridiculous - to put all that effort into recreating an authentic looking 60’s bike and then spoiling it with such a crass detail beggars belief. The cutting out is down right dangerous and that needs fixing. I think current emission standards are pushing the abilities of some manufacturers to produce suitable mapping. The headlight cracking happened on TEC’s own development bike so it is an issue- good luck with yours. Anyway keep posting and let’s see how you get on with it over time - ride safe.
Thanks, Yes I agree, it's running too lean for emissions, it need someone clever to re map it.
I'm paranoid about the headlight, check it every time I get off it. ,,👍
You are correct re the cutting out , as I said mine has been returned and I’ve brought a different brand. The cutting out was awful and in the middle of a traffic junction it’s not what you need. Happened several times per ride too.
Just thinking of dropping wedge on one,I've had most bike out there,old and new,new bullets old and new Enfields,I've not see one yet in the flesh,how dose it compare power wise to say a 500 bullet?
It really dose look the business!
I believe the motor is basically the old rotax bmw f 650 lump,so should be good
Enjoy your bsa that's what it's all about!
Go for it, they really are good bikes.
A lot more power than the bullet, on par with the interceptor.
Good for carrying a pillion, does a ton.
Loads of torque, engine is awesome 👍
mine cuts out too at the junctions however, if the engine is hot, let's say after 15 miles riding, this cut out problem stops. I assume the upcoming firmware update will address this problem as well as the engine light
It's not nice is it.
Mine still does it even when warmed up,
The firmware update has been going on since last may, some say it works, some say it gets worse and had to have it reversed?
I might let them do mine on my next service and see what happens, I'll probably do another video on the findings 👍😁
@@awesomeappleby5923 looking forward to the video post the firmware update if you decide on that. This would be interesting. Other than this, the BSA is wonderful.
Nice review, I think a lot of these new euro 5 bikes run too lean, I test rode a RE650 continental GT which kept cutting out at junctions when shutting the throttle. I like the bars, what make are they? I ride a 2007 Moto Guzzi and even that runs too lean and cuts out every now and then at junctions, I will eventually get it remapped. The video wasn't too bad considering it was just done on the phone, might benefit by moving it up a bit higher if possible.
Seems this cutting out is not only BSA's problem, it's quite annoying and embarrassing sometimes.
The bars were just cheap ones off eBay. £35.90.
but looks like seller ( MMCC-UK) is not on eBay anymore.
I can give you dimensions of mine so you get the correct clearances if required.
Definitely upgrading the camera for next time
Thanks 👍
That fuel pump noise would drive me up the wall.☹️
Mine is quite noisy, and think a few have said there's is.
Obviously, goes when you're going quickly,
A simple thing like a noisy fuel pump was overlook when it was designed I suppose 👍
That’s a very nice looking bike. The cutting out I’ve seen mentioned on lots of videos on lots of bikes, Royal Enfields especially, seems the engines are tight and just need bedding in. That might help and maybe a ECU update from the dealer too. Sure it’s just a niggle and you have a 4 year warranty aswell. I do like the new BSA it’s just a bit too small for my size really. Shame. Happy Christmas btw.
Think most of the problem of the cutting out is it's running too lean for the new regulations. Thanks 👍
Honest review from true experience, but tell tell us about the Thunderbolt, how does it compare?
They are very much the same to ride having similar bars on ,
Just harder starting the thunderbolt, and dare not go too far, for fear of something falling off or breaking , which has happened a few times.
So if I want a no worry ride, it's the new gold star,
if I want an eventful and interesting ride, it's the thunderbolt , also, the thunderbolt get lots more attention from the public, even cars stop to take photos,
And if you pull up anywhere, you've got not chance of getting away quickly.
I think they think it's a DBD 34 gold star. 😁👍
Hi
where did you buy your shock absorbers?
Is it better for comfort and handling?
I purchased the shocks from a company called TEC, but have heard they don't have any left in stock, they do have a website to check.
Have you seen my other video of me fitting the new shocks to my bike.
I didn't think there was anything wrong with the originals that came with the bike, I just changed them for their looks, performance wise, they both feel the same to me .👍
What did you use to mod the rear end? Vice vid though and I hope BSA sort your niggles out.
Thanks, sorry, did you mean how did I change the rear end,
if so, I have another video of fitting it, in my other videos on RUclips if that helps.
Just let us know if not 👍
l must admit l haven't much interest in the 'Goldstar 650' but the other bike ...YES!!!... All it required was good maintenance and tune...
Yes, the thunderbolt does need more care and attention, and it does get more attention everywhere you go 👍
I'd like to see a riding comparison between this new bsa and the thunderbolt, I'm in the process of renovating an A65 lightning which I've not riden yet.
They are unbelievably very similar to ride and handle with the similar bars on, for saying they are made 50 years apart.
And made by totally different people, but I suppose, this new gold star was designed in England by real British enthusiast.
When the weather gets better, might take them both out on the same run to compare, but use a better camera next time.
@@awesomeappleby5923 Cheers, I thought the phone worked pretty well.
my enfield 650 engine light would not go either and was eventually replaced . maybe the same supplier ? let the good times roll !
Think there's too many things to go wrong on new stuff nowadays 😕👍
Camera trick wasn't GO PRO but not bad, I'll try it!
Thanks, would have worked better, if I had realized earlier that it had slipped down too low 👍
Hi I had the BSA legacy edition earlier this year like you I’ve had almost every Royal Enfield since 2018
I wasn’t impressed with my BSA 650 I traded it in after 2 months for a new T100
Yes, for price , I suppose, there's limits to quality and things, but, triumph is over £3000 dearer, and was too much out of my budget, so had to go for the best cheapo bike on offer 👍
All engines run too lean these days it can be a problem for cutting out. There should be or might be an idle adjust screw on the throttle body just tweak it up a bit see if that helps.
I wouldn't know how to do that,
And there's not even a workshop manual yet.
but hopefully, someone will show us on RUclips soon👍
It is usually a knob that you can turn I have that on both my old 86 yamaha and 2015 Kawasaki. Maybe not any more on new bikes. @@awesomeappleby5923
Picking up mine on Friday, what rear light/number plate holder did you fit?
Hi, great to hear you get yours on Friday,.
I got a cheap light and fitting from eBay, the username is classic bike shop.
It was £37.95.
But i was told a Lucas rear light fitting was better and gives you more room to fit the inners without butchering them too much like I did, lol.
Have you seen my other RUclips video on changing the rear light fitting 👍
No I will take a look thanks.@@awesomeappleby5923
BSA used to mean " Bastard Stopped Again ". Are these new replicas any better with reliability ?
Lol, we use to say" Best Scrap Available" but I think yours is more suitable as it does keep randomly stopping 🫣👍
Great video do you know anywhere has a set of them shocksfor sale tec don't do them now
Thanks, I didn't know Tec are not doing them anymore.
I know hagon do them but they are very expensive.👍
Maybe disconnect and reconnect battery,should reboot cpu,check with bsa first
Thanks, I might try the battery trick, think a few have done that already..
I did know how to turn it off easily when I first got it, but I've not used it for that long I can't remember what I did, BSA are not bothered about the engine management light 🫣, they said its no problem?👍
Beautiful bike. But why do EFI bikes tickover so high ?
Thanks, I know,
everything runs that lean now, and revs too high that its spoilt the sound of a good engine design 👍
did ypu chek the lamda sensor on the egsost..maybe folty..
It might be that ,
Probably getting fouled up.
I will ask the dealer to look at it when I take it in for it's service 👍
Stick with the old bsa, it’s a honest bike.
Would love to just have the old BSA, but i can't trust it for longer rides. it's can be very eventful when I go out on it. Lol 😆
Does not sound like a beezer sounds like a Honda. Wonder how it pulls. Once had 441 Victor Spescial pulled like a tractor. Also vibrated like tank
No, they can't get the right sound we would like, due to all the new emission regulations, that's why I've been messing with the baffle plate,
when you first get them with the baffle in, they sound more like an Honda 90 😂👍
All one would be hoping for, is modern(ish) braking?.. flat spots at roundabouts, are not welcome..(coming from a rear-ender victim)..
They say the key to happiness, is lowering expectations...[i do not doubt that to be true, but have minimal insurance, in any case).
Brakes are brilliant, but I wish they would come up with a solution soon to the stalling, bu at the moment, BSA is not listening 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 I'm guessing it's efi, (carbs are mysterious enough for me)...flat spots would be a signal issue? (I dont know if throttle bodies have a mixture and idle screws?). The more I learn, the more I want old tech, tbh. I need to change fork-oil, on upside down forks, on a bike with no centre-stand..🙄 (eye-rolls alright?).
ECU? I like Standard Ignition Points and Condenser Type Ignition Motorcycles.
Same here, they are more simpler to mend and work on,
but unfortunately, that's all gone from brand new bikes , they are all computer run ☹️👍
A motorcyclist would want to learn about the weight, the vibration, the frame geometry, the suspension choices. A consumer is concerned about the appearance of the radiator.
Thanks 👍
what right have you got to be having this much fun ?
You only live once 😁👍
They're just niggles as you say & wish my Royal Enfields i owned only had just little niggles & put me off the brand altogether.
On looks alone you've got a nicer looking machine than the Interceptor that i find cheap & tacky looking.
Sorry to hear about your Enfields, I had similar problems and that's one of the reasons I wanted to try the Goldie.
And I agree, I think it's a far better looker than my Enfields.
They should have had a bit higher price point and then they could have sold it with quality in period switch gear rather than the generic switch gear they have fitted, made a better job of the offensive USB pod! the ridiculous large radiator and the patchy paint finish and plastic mudguards and engine covers. Enfield have made a better job with their 650 but they all suffer from being way to heavy, example the new Enfield 650 shotgun weighs 240kg! FFS a 1970 triumph 650 Bonneville weighs 181kg and has a power output of 50HP.
I've had 2 interceptors, and they are as bad, but for £6000, you can't expect much more,
you do get a lot of bike for your money though.
And I definitely wouldn't want to pay £10,000 like a triumph just for not a lot more, and I've had Bonneville's.
It's just modern ways unfortunately., thanks for the comment 👍
It could be cutting out because you’ve reduced the back pressure by removing the baffle..
Maybe I should of mentioned it on the video, but, It's always done it before the baffle was removed, and it's still happening on brand new ones now , straight from the shop, unfortunately.👍
To reset. Use timer. Start for 40 seconds. Stop for 15secs with key. Then repeat . Usually 3 or 4 times. But you need to take to dealer for ecu reset. Resets the parameters and should resolve. My dealer said he.s had 3 out of 50 ish bikes with this prob.
Yes, thanks, I forgot what to do at the time, but not bothered about it anymore, as even BSA said it's not a problem to the engine.
I read some of these ecu resets made them worse and they took them back to be put back to normal.
I suppose, the dealers won't know how many will do it yet, because when it happened last march, it was when it was cold, and there wasn't many sold,
But now, there hundreds sold, so , only in the coming months will we know if it's a bigger problem than everyone thinks.
They've got 4 years to sort it through 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 Mine doing it. Dealer said if they do reset before it leaves the shop it can cause problems on bikes where the fault is.nt present. So reset and see. Then bring in for flash if it comes on again. So taking mine after Xmas. Says its a ten minute job. My dealer only 7mile away so no problem.
As a follow up mine just had 500 service. Light never came on after twice in first week so dealer said leave it. Done 500 mile since it last came on so looks like it was just settling down . Fitted tec baffle. Just gives a little more noise without being silly. Only £18
It's 2023, not 1963, we should not have these problems.
I agree, hopefully, BSA will sort them out soon.
if i bought one of these indian bsa, s thats what i would do with it
Makes a big difference to the look, I love it now , with these mods 👍
Just can't understand why BSA has to have niggles like the management light but the cheaper Royal Enfield's seem to be ok!!
I suppose BSA has only been doing this for 1 years as opposed to Enfields 80 years, so not a bad first job from BSA I think.👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 Fair comment!!
~ Votre splendide moto n'a malheureusement pas de béquille centrale....
Hi, I know BSA should have fitted a center stand, but to be honest, I've had it 10 months and never had the need for one.
And if it's only to lubricate the chain, then i do this in my shed on a paddock stand.
Maybe they will fit one one day 👍
is it an auto choke ?
Yes, auto choke 🫣
How does she go with a bird on the back?
Very good, I just click the rear suspension up one notch, still pulls 70-80 on motorway ok .
It is only an A2 restricted bike, so not going to do any miracle's 👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 thank you 👍
I built and rebuilt a ´57 B33, and I've ridden a Gold Star.
This may be a fine machine but if you call it something it is clearly not, in my book you´ve made a fake.
It bears only superficial resemblance to a Goldie if you don´t know much about them - if you do, it's a travesty which, if it had an honest identity, would stand or fall on its own merit.
If you are upping the spec to discs, (I know, drum brakes are expensive to make) then why stick with spokes, tubes and puncture outfits?
Those who enjoy riding this bike would find a real Goldie, with its close ratio gearbox, a very difficult and demanding ride, and dealing with a set of points or a carburettor would not go well by the roadside.
Your warning lights can be operated via Bluetooth if fitted, your dealer knows where you are, your mileage, and can encourage you to visit by flashing all your warning lights at once. It happened to my Honda until I tinfoiled the Bluetooth internals. He can probably cut the ignition if you are on HP and fail on a payment.
No wonder you ride the real BSA.
Yes, it's only a modern copy of the original gold star, but to people like me who cannot afford the real thing or want to use it as daily bike, then it's as close as we can get to the real thing.👍
@@awesomeappleby5923
At least you won't be maintaining a Lucas Magdyno, that used to be as much work as the rest of the bike put together.
You won´t need to 12 volt it, fit a better (Triumph) clutch or start searching for green brake linings ......
Yes, I´d do the same except I´m now "old enough" to ride a scooter.
It is sad knowing these new retro bikes cannot even keep up to the 55 to 60 year old bikes that they resemble!
Agreed, too many euro rules 👍
well its just not like the real thing is it? a DBD 34 is what I would rather have , no thanks to the new one ,, Conan age 76 , but still a big kid ..
Whoa, at 76, your probably best to keep away from a DBD 34, the kickstart alone mine put you in hospital 😂👍
Seriously, your right, I would love a DBD but don't have £18,000 🫣👍
Can I have yours? Will Swap you my B25... Just gota get it to New Zealand..
Pay for the shipping and it' a deal 👍😄
😂@@awesomeappleby5923
Ace bars, but no rear sets....must be uncomfortable....
It's doable with no rear sets, but brings on cramp quicker than that of having rear sets, unfortunately, no one makes them yet for this BSA is that new.
I manage about 20 miles before I need a coffee stop 👍
WHY 6 6 6 ?
Number of the beast, I'm a big devil when I'm on a bike 👿👍
The rear plate on the BSA is illegal.
What illegal number plate officer 👿👍
@@awesomeappleby5923 You know exactly what number plate. The bike isn't a classic and should have a yellow plate with black text. Check the legislation or speak to a bobby or MOT inspector.
It's not a BSA !! Just like the new Norton wasn't a Norton and the Indian isn't an Indian!
Sorry but that's just how I see things
It's modern euro regulations spoiling all bikes now 😔👍
there's plenty of good singles around, made fot road and field. paying money for nostalgia, bloat and poor performance is a personal choice, but is an empty badge name really what you want?
Yes, to be honest, I did only buy it for the badge (BSA) and also the curiosity.
I am not really interested in modern bikes anyway,
I love old Kawasaki's , but it must of had something to catch my eye, because I sold my Kawasaki z900 1976 for it. 🫣👍
German engine manufacturer
Yes, No one makes better 👍
You cannot compare proper BSAs with a badge engineered Mahindra hybrid and your statement about how it sounds it sounds nothing like the proper thing you cant replicate the sound of a low reving long stroke engine with a short stroke higher reving engine. I am not saying the bike doesnt look good but on all fronts it is not remotely a comparison with the proper goldy
Agreed, but I wouldn't know where to start if I had a real Goldie, like starting it, maintaining it, etc,
having said that, I'm still tempted to buy a real one to see what's it all about 👍
no contest. looks bland, Thunder Bolt any day.
I'd agree, if the thunderbolt was as reliable for everyday use. 👍
It's not a BSA, dunno what it is but it ain't a BSA mate
We know. Still a nice bike. I run old bikes as well. If its good to ride that's what matters.
Yes, I suppose it's not an original BSA.
But it was designed here in England with real British bike enthusiasts, so, it's as close we're going to get to a real BSA with Indians making it 👍.
What is a Beezer anyway? I've had a new one and old ones in the 60s and 70s and magneto ignition was no less problematic than modern ECU.
Now I'm riding an AJS. Made in CHINA. I know what is, it's an AJS lol.
They use the trademark. Bombay Small Arms. 😂
@@redtobertshateshandles like thai rumph
Radiator ruins it 😮
Unfortunately, it's the price you have to pay for a single 650 nowadays, because of new emissions.
BSA could have copped out and made a twin like Enfield or triumph, but think this single engine is better to look at and you don't notice the rad when you own one,👍