2022 BSA Gold Star - first ride review & old vs new
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2022
- In this video we have our first ride review on the 2022 BSA Gold Star 650. We also compare it to the 1956 BSA Gold Star DBD34, which is the exact model this new bike is styled on.
Location for this video is Millbrook Proving Ground in Bedfordshire, UK.
// FOR ALL CHANNEL ENQUIRIES (INCLUDING SPONSORSHIP AND ADVERTISING) please contact Alex Rollings - alexander@talktocamera.co.uk
// ABOUT THE CLASSIC MOTORCYCLE CHANNEL
The Classic Motorcycle Channel is for people who love classic, vintage and antique motorcycles. We are passionate about classic motorcycles and produce high quality motorcycle profile videos, restoration videos, restorer profile videos and also anything that takes our interest.
// CHANNEL PARTNERS
- Alex Rollings - director and producer for the channel.
Instagram: @motofilmer
- Dave Mitchell - in house mechanic, presenter and producer. Dave also owns and runs a classic motorcycle workshop called Mitchell's Classics.
Website: www.mitchellsclassics.co.uk
- John Oakes - presenter and producer. John is a classic motorcycle enthusiast, rider and restorer and works closely with us on all our video content.
Instagram: @classicbikeman
// A BIG THANK YOU TO
- BSA and the team for inviting us along to test ride the new 2022 BSA Gold Star.
- Alex Rollings for filming and editing the video.
Instagram: @motofilmer
#bsa
#bsaisback
#bsamotorcycles 
Авто/Мото
![Here's why the BSA GOLD STAR is a MASSIVE FAIL [SoapBox#1]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3nyDUrNzz94/mqdefault.jpg)
![Here's why the BSA GOLD STAR is a MASSIVE FAIL [SoapBox#1]](/img/tr.png)
I work with an older gentleman who used to ride an original Gold Star in the late 1960s. After a series of more modern bikes, he managed to find and buy another. As you say, they are hard to ride and I don't think his really sees the light of day very often. However, it was a present to himself and a strong reminder of his younger days. It makes me happy when he talks about it and his antics in a bygone era of motorcycling.
Great review as always, Dave. Very informative. Sounds like a lovely bike!
A very good review, Dave. I think anyone who says this is a hard sell is being unfair. You make it perfectly clear that it won’t be for everyone and that people should reserve judgement until they have actually seen and ridden one. The price seems reasonable too.
In their own contemporary literature, BSA were quite open about the Clubman Gold Star as not being suitable for road use.
The Gold Star DBD 34 is a highly tuned production racer. It is not really a road bike. A better comparison would be a CB 34, with flat handlebars, standard footrests and a road gear cluster.
@@pashakdescilly7517 Or better still for general road use, the BSA 350 cc B31 or 500cc B33
My first motorcycle was a brand new 1962 BSA 350 single, bought in El Cajon California, a suburb of San Diego. I have been very partial to singles ever since and hope to shop this new 650 here in the Phoenix, Az. area . Enjoyed this post very much , Thank You.
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 I could not keep it as within 2 thousand miles the rod bearing was squealing. Warranty repaired.another 800 miles same thing. Grudgingly repaired at dealer. Sold it. About y
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 yes hard to believe even motorcycles have catalytic converters now, and a simple straight forward bike is long gone.
Thanks for the review, very interesting snd look forward to seeing more on the Goldie!
The old Goldie was built for a time, where the traffic wasn't as maddening as it now. It does sound marvellous though. The new one doesn't sound bad either. Starting is definitely a pain, its a work in itself. Had one of those Royal Enfield Lean Burn with the manual compression, and boy the kickback can be brutal. Gives you machismo feeling, but its a pain when in stop and go traffic.
When you hear an old Goldie it's magical.
🤩
The old Goldie, nice to look at and hear, but a pig to start and ride in normal road conditions. Not practical for modern day roads and traffic. The old British bikes also leaked a lot of oil and the electrics were unreliable, especially the ignition and charging systems. Brakes not that good and lot of vibration as well in the old big four strokes. Modern motorcycles are so much improved and far more reliable.
Magic too when the traffic cop pulls you over and asks if you've nicked granddad's bike, then gives you a ticket for that raucous exhaust.
And then you have to restart the damn thing.
Mate excellent job at presenting this machine! I commend the developers and hope it sells well, I now have another bike on the list to buy 😉
Great review. Straight to the point. No fluff. 👍
This thing looks so awsome! it s so great to finaly see it rolling!
Oh it sounds amazing, looks amazing and it must feel comfortable while riding as well 😍 love it.
I love the look of the new BSA. I agree the single has more torque than the twin of the interceptor but what I disagree with is the interceptor doesn’t need man handling when cornering and certainly doesn’t feel heavy on the move. You say it isn’t a rival to the interceptor but then you compare everything against it. I hope it’s as popular as the interceptor as I'd love to see both on our roads in the UK.
Thanks for a review , finally 😀, I’m changing my mind again.
It definitely looks like a motorcycle that can be a commuter or a base of something you can customise and grow with to make it look well, even more "classic".
I'm interested to see what progresses with aftermarket parts, tune up kits and exhaust systems once these get out in the world. I'm sure there's a sleeping beast under all that emission gear.
Thanks for adding the dyno chart, that gives a good idea about the engine performs
The old one sounds sooooo good.
Great video as always Dave. I'll take the old one but of course the new one's going to be much easier. I'll be curious to see how they do!
Love your videos 🙌
Its a very nicely styled homage to a BSA Goldstar
Is it *really* a Goldstar?
Dave's off beam with his assertion 'everyone expects it to be vibey because its a single'.
Well, not if you've ridden the sorts of Rotax singles fitted to BMWs amongst others for the past 20 odd years you don't.
Anyway acid test but who else is with Bart and would take the original in preference to this pleasant newcomer?
Damn sure I'd rather have the old original.
@@babboon5764 The old Gold Star was great to look at but a pig to drive for everyday type motoring, it was far more suited for use on the race track, For everyday riding, the new version is far better, easier to ride and of course way cheaper to buy !
@@johnjackson3847 Kind of yeah ... that's no doubt true of many.
There's a beautifully crafted new Norton Commando just coming to market that's rated way more refined than the original.
But ........
Well, I guess its down to what you're aiming for with the bike.
@@babboon5764 I had many of these old British bikes in the 1960s to 70s. One of them was a mid1950s BSA 350cc B31 ( related to the gold star ) good old British single and believe it or not, they were out of fashion in the mid 60s and I paid only £15 for my one, nowadays you would pay around £6000 plus. My brother was a Triumph man and he won many production races on his own Triumph Trophy that he converted to Bonneville specifications. He later on changed to racing Hondas.
Will remind you that the original goldie clubman was NOT recommend for road use! It's stated on the original sales brochure.I have
Great review Dave
Like it
I have 4 Bsa’s
Looking forward to seeing it in the flesh and testing it
No negative comments from me at the moment 👍👍
Nice to hear you view on it,yer I think it’s going to be a success👌
still not quite convinced but will defer judgement until I've ridden one. Think I would've prefered a twin, but then I'm a Meriden man at heart
I've had quite a few BSA motorcycles in my time but really fancied buying a Royal Enfield Interceptor. I sat on one at a bike show and felt the bike was lost beneath me as it's way to small for me so decided not to buy one. I don't know if the Gold Star will be any bigger, I will have to wait until I see one in the flesh.
Good video, keep them coming.
Great review from someone who knows his stuff. Brilliant.
Awesome Review 😌💖👍 I want a Gold Star Now!
Apart from the radiator, exhaust note and paint on the engine everything looks nice!
I can't wait until they come to the states! I think it will be a winner. Remember it's a brand new bike!
Love the new BSA, hopefully it will be available in the Netherlands for a good price
Took a close look at the Goldie at Colchester Kawasaki on Monday. Very nice and looks even better in the flesh. Will take one out when they launch them properly in a few weeks time apparently.
Great review thanks.
When I was in high school here is the US I worked 2 jobs all summer long between my junior and senior year. I made and saved $900. That was just enough to buy and insure the new 1969 BSA 441 Victor Special that was on the showroom floor at the local BSA dealer! I rode that bike for 2 years and I loved it! Even when it took a chunk of skin and meat out of my right leg when I mis-cued on the compression release starting it! It was not as fast as the Kawasaki's my friends had, but it had the right mojo for me! The thump thump was a song that made me feel better after a bad day! Great bike!! JMHO.. 8) --gary
The modern interpretation is definitely a huge upgrade. Reliability, economy, and performance leave the vintage BSA’s in the dust. In my youth I had ridden a 1970 Lightning. I wasn’t that experienced but between the right hand shift, poor brakes, and sour handling, the bike was a head-turner but terrifying to ride. I love vintage bikes but motorcycles truly have become so greatly improved over time. Cheers to your channel and review!
It's not a 'huge upgrade' it's just a new bike to be styled vaguely like an old bike. It has ZERO character unlike the old bike. Still they'll launch and then folk will get bored and second hand they might be worth a punt as a commuter.
Rarther have a B31 than this bike' but then again i use my 61 AJS 350 all year' rain or snow.
"the right hand shift, poor brakes, and sour handling,"?
I don't think you ever had a 1970 BSA Lightning.
Handling? On rails
Brakes?
TLS front brake stopped you like a brick wall.
Right hand shift?
So were all Brit bikes, what a pleasure to brake and change gear DIAGONALLY.
A natural movement, like swinging your left arm forward with your right leg when walking.
Great and different review; thanks.
Nice review thanks
Great video!
Excellent review.
Good review of these bikes to the original etc👍
The technology in the modern bike makes it so much easier to use than a vintage bike. Electronic fuel injection, water cooling and a counter balanced motor make the new bike efficient and dependable for all riding conditions be it city or country. That’s the ticket. If these bikes can come close to Japanese dependability? It’s a winner!! Great video!!!
If your measure of how great a motorcycle is is how easy it is to 'use' then I guess so, yes.
beautiful bike beautiful review :)
Excellent narration - great presentation 👍 😎
BMW also uses Bombardier Rotax engines on its thumpers. They’re highly reliable.
Great review Dave👍 as usual honest spot on POV on the new BSA gold star 650...BSA has done a great job on the design and look trying it's level best to get as close as possible to the older models.Atleast their attempt to revive a dying iconic brand should be highly appreciated then to just find faults.I guess this is the best they could possibly do keeping the budget in mind and that's sensible not to go overboard on the price.I really don't mind it as an addition in my garage apart from my RE interceptor as both have different characteristics and heritage.A common misconception among people is when the price is high they ignore built quality ...but if it’s a value for money proposition they start finding faults and quality issues.Normal human tendency.....
Totally agree here. I am really taken aback by some of the negativity and snobbishness over this bike by some people. It’s as if they are driven by negativity and pointing out faults. I, for one, am really happy that BSA have been relaunched as a brand, with a new bike that does seem, on the face of it, competitively priced. I look forward to a test ride to form my opinion.
@@sambrooks7862 So was Norton Commando 961(now owned by TVS India),BMW RNineTs and are all the Triumph Bonnivelles from Thailand are all made to look like their original predecessors of the 60s in other words none of them is the real Elvis Presley ...in other words no motorcycle is original which are now either being made in India, Thailand or China....So why is it so difficult to accept it as the original brand(iPhone is made in China too)...or rather let's not revive it and let it be forgotten forever.
I completely understand your concern....all that we are trying to say is...a singer in a band is not humanly possible to bring back to life ...but it is very much possible to bring back a brand and machines by humans...and legendary brands should be revived rather than visiting museum to see them...how many new generation kids know brands like AJS, Vincent,Brough superior,Matchless,or even Norton or BSA.Reviving a brand from bygone era should be encouraged,especially if a company wants invest millions to keep it alive no matter how they do it let them, if we can't do it let someone else try to.
@@sambrooks7862 I completely understand your disagreement , especially if you have known and seen the older original brands in flesh ...and I totally agree that they can never remake the same stuff and bring back the character and soul the older motorcycles used to have..not even close to what they used to be....especially with all the emission norms and Euro 5 norms and stuff...I hope they just try to get as close as possible.End of the day all I'm saying is in the motorcycling world which is filled with plastic fairings and fibre crap...we only have few manufactures who are still trying to produce something which atleast look like retro motorcycles and we don't want to discourage them.
@@sambrooks7862 Likewise it was a nice chat...good discussion we had🙂. You too Ride Safe👍Thanks & Cheers
Nice review👌😎
Great stuff . Proper bikes .
An improvement. Be interesting to know the diameters of the new and old Goldstar exhaust headers. It was good to hear how difficult the old DB34 is to ride on the street. Very very useful 👍. Very pretty bike though.
This has attracted a lot of whining, mostly people moaning that basically it's not the original... Some even suggesting that the channel has sold out to evil corporate greed 😲. There has been a lot of interest in this bike, so thanks for showing it.
Its not the original,its oil tight and reliable
@@BanjoLuke1 a fantastic reply 👍
@@BanjoLuke1 That's it really. They bought a brand and then instantly decided to trade on it's most famous name completely regardless of the history they're trying to invoke. The Gold Star was all, and only, about speed, this recycled BMW Funduro decidedly isn't.
As a Mahindra it makes a lot more sense than a BSA and would probably get a much warmer welcome as a bloody good try. Marketing sucks.
@@stevematthews641 Nice! Lol!
What the majority of people dont seem to understand is we like the hard work when we ride our BSA's. Thats the whole point! Its just as much about the process of starting it, keeping it started, collecting the bits that fall off during the ride, keeping it started in traffic, limping it home when it inevitably fails... BSA arent just a ride like some lame ass Harley.. Its a full on experience that forces you to know the quirks of your particular machine. That is the charm of these old bikes, and that is what will always be the best bit for me.KNOW YOUR BIKE.
Just look at them, the old one was beautiful and sounds fantastic.
Finally! The real deal Arrives! Perfect timing I'm looking to replace my 2008 U.S spec 500 AVL Royal Enfield..I love singles.
THE SOUND IS BEAUTIFUL !!!!!
;-))
Liquid cooled, because of emissions, because of over heating ect, so exactly how do you explain the royal enfield Intercepter, air and oil cooling no problem, even in India! 🤔
Properly engineered air/oil cooled engines are the only way to make a true classic bike like this. I understand the thinking and engineering of liquid cooled engines... just not what most want in this class of motorcycle. They did a great job with the look of the new Gold Star and I will ride one soon. But, I will stick with RE and pre-water cooled Bonnivelles.
Exactly he was talking absolute bollocks. Talking it up for the sake of bsa..
@@JIMWSMITH Jim Lad.... with respect, its called progress, regards.
@@stormytempest6521 whats progress taking the easy option. Enfield produce great air oil cooled units bsa could of done the same but it probably would of killed the project due to cost and r&d.. yes no doubt the rotax will be a great engine but it dont look pretty does it....
@Retired Bore love to see one of those- but one that ordinary folk can buy , not like certain Brit brands...
Thanks for this!
Like the concept and most of the finished product but £6500-7000 is a lot for what you can buy elsewhere
I think they did a great job on the DBD inspired styling... guess I'll just have to get used to that radiator :)
Excellent and well informed review of the new Gold Star, thank you. It’s an intriguing bike with positives and negatives. Can’t say I’m totally won over with the style and I think it’s slightly porky. Not fitting a centre stand and rear grab handle is not good and it sounds no better than the Hunter 350 with the baffles in place - but nice with them out. As I have previously said, the engine looks a corker, it rides, brakes and steers and has a two years warranty. Would I wish to part with my electric start Yamaha SRX 600? No, because it does everything and more I want from a 600 single.
I have a 650 Enfield which I love but would certainly consider a BSA in the future.
Best thing said in this video, "get out an try one", riding is so much more than what you can see an hear in a video, I know my bike sounds completely different when your actually on the machine, looking forward to see more reviews on the new Goldstar, that small change on the shielding of the exhaust is a good start, was hoping to see a smaller more triumph like radiator, but it looks and sounded great for a first review, loved the comparison to the old version, removed much of the nostalgia bias that any modern retro has to contend with.
I do like the look of the cut down exhaust. That looked super bulky on the first photos I saw. A set of ace bars and I think the BSA will look sharp. I'm surprised their isn't a clubman trim availableto be honest. Seems odd, but it's not too hard to sort. Good video , as always.
Clubman trim will most likely come later.
Wow....that old girl LOOKS GORGEOUS..and SOUNDS GREAT... .......new models are good too .........good report...
I have an RE Interceptor 650. Also an old Bullet 500. Got the 650 because of the new Goldie's launch date seemed so vague with no news of dealers etc.
I hope the production bikes have the BSA side panel lozenge logo attached vertical to the ground rather than to the side panel that slopes back. Minor point maybe but it 'bugs my eye' that detail!!!!!
My guy is breaking into pieces at 2:10 must really love that baffle lmao .
I would buy one for sure
Old Beezers have soul man ✌️❤
Good review, as you said modern bikes have to be lean burn, so many suffer low speed engine stuttering and surging, what was the BSA like at walking pace?
Excellent video. I like the new Gold Star. Some decades ago, I owned a BB34 Gold Star. I never kick started it. Too tricky, and potentially ankle breaking. Push as fast as possible with the clutch in. Jump on side saddle. Clutch out. Then clutch in while you, how shall we say "put your leg over". Then off you went.
Thanks for your nice comments Glenn, bit of an art to starting them eh!
Thanks for the review! Do you know if it will be exported to France?
Just to be nit-picking. I would have liked to see the engine finning going all the way across like a Goldie, even if it was bolt-on. The sweep back of the header could be a little more like the Goldie, although I'm pleased to see the shielding has been reduced.
Hope they make it over here in Australia, it'll be a worthy touring machine, as well as agreeably-priced. I like it....
Style Wise like it ! Now wait for the reports in afew months time to come in.🇬🇧
Great review and really enjoyed the comparison with the original, which is just gorgeous. From what I've read, an awful lot of time, skill and energy went into creating the new bike, and I would defo like to try one out, if they ever make it to Germany.
Love it, looks so much like the old one and keeps the modern additions very subtle. Think they could have done a better job blending in the radiator, the one fitted looks a bit like an afterthought. Sound way better without the baffle in, with it in it sounds a bit tinny and cheap.
Looks like the old one. Yep that was their aim. Wouldn't you prefer a real (original) one though? Far more lithe looking.
@@dave6467 oh yeah, I'd definitely prefer an older one
@@keithstewart1979 You mean a real one. LOL
What?...#shouldhavegonetosppecsavers
It doesn't look like the old one at all. It looks like other Indian bikes like the jawa 42, or royal enfield. Sadly the only british thing about the new one is the name
It is a good thing they are pitching it abroad. BSA as a brand is more associated with a Bicycle brand in India. I used to ride one as a kid and it was called BSA SLR. I never had a motorcycle brand BSA in my horizon until Mahindra revived it. Norton on the other hand, when and if TVS comes out with a New Norton I am looking forward to
A new 650 thumper on the market? Hell yeah!
My BSA was able to drive in the very traffic jam in Bangkok it was reliable engine and tappet noise looked so loud when it ran at high speed but it made funny to go with it's
Side by side the new golden looks shorter than the old - or is it an illusion of the camera angle.
Great video- good the see the comparison.
First thing I would do is pull off the badges, it's not a BSA, it's a Rotax engined, engineered Indian bike, I removed the badges from my Interceptor 650, now it rides much better......
Look at that old bsa go!! With all the vibrations and engine character must feel absolutely thrilling!
Well, it uses the name Gold Star but is nothing like the old Gold Star at all, apart from being a single cylinder. The old one was specifically developed and sold for use in the Manx Grand Prix races that took place on the Isle of Man sometime in September, and was for amateurs, and was not part of the World Championships. Of course neither are the TT Races now, but they were, back in the day.
I have ridden the old Gold Star. A friend of mine owned it and called it a Caveman's motorbike, and that is the best description of it, it is totally uncivilised but a joy to ride once you have started it. Starting was quite involved but provided you knew the procedure was fairly easy to do.
I expect the new "Gold Star" is a very nice bike, but it is not a racer as the old one was.
Nice looking bike , but personally think the enfield engine finnsh is so much better , totally uncluttered and very clean and tidy . Bsa have took the easy option with the rotax engine. Will be reliable but the looks could possibly put some people off time will tell ...
Since owning an RE Interceptor I can attest to the looks of the engine... so much so that I often sit in my garage and admire the look of it. RE nailed it in regard to building their own engine specifically for their unique bikes. The new Classic 350 engine and bike is just as well done and arguably more beautiful than the Interceptor. They invested a ton of money in the air cooled 650 and 350 power-plants and it shows. The Rotax engine in the Gold Star will be a very reliable and good running engine. The engineering is sound and the design had been time tested in various machines. But... it is hard to take an engine off the shelf of another manufacturer and have a cohesive and beautiful marriage of bike and engine. In that regard, RE is on par with the worlds most established and premium brands. They just found a way to price aggressively. Perhaps BSA will take this beautiful frame and bike they designed and put a proper, air cooled, BSA designed and engineered engine in it one day.
I tend to agree, Jim. But perhaps the comparison with the interceptor engine is a bit unfair? BSA are staring out with their first bike, whereas Enfield India have 60 plus years behind them. So it is no surprise that they went with an off the shelf engine for their first bike - it is a business after all. As Biker Nate says, maybe in the future, this platform will get a BSA designed engine with improved aesthetics. I hope they succeed.
R.E spent 10yrs developing the twins & can be proud to say they built their own engine.BSA did take the easier option using the Rotrax engine but it is reliable & has great tourqe.Price is fair but reckon base model should of been £250 cheaper or the same as Royal Enfield.Definitly agree that R.E 650 engine looks better & has a more old school look also being air cooled.The heat shield removed looks so much better & paint job looks great.If I bought one I would swap radiator for thinner black alloy high flow radiator & smaller rear shocks cause rear shocks look oversized.These are things I would do & enjoy customizing bikes,some people prefer keeping it stock.
@@bikernate8902 Only way they can go air cooled is with a twin a big single won't pass the strict regulations hence the radiator.They have a twin in the pipeline & if air cooled probably be oil cooled like R.E has done.R.E needs to increase capacity to 800cc like the original prototype 1970 800cc Interceptor Mk2a that wasn't released.R.E could easily increase capacity.Pity the KX 838
Prototype never went into production as a Vtwin would sell fast & be popular in North America.
Hopefully the KX Vtwin is released in future & is redesigned to 1000cc.
@@ruahinesrider the technology is there to make a single cylinder that is indeed air and oil cooled. However, since BSA took direct aim at the Interceptor price was going to play a major roll...with that said the investment to develop their own engine would have been the most expensive way to go... that is why RE has the advantage. RE as an established brand with a long, continuous history was much better suited to do so. In this type of bike, in my opinion lacks originality with an off the shelf engine. I doubt very much this BSA will sell as well as the RE. I would like very much for BSA to succeed and expand their product line. But, I have serious doubt given their approach. Also, the RE 650 engine is very capable of being expanded on as the lower end and the entire structure of the engine is under-stressed. Over built and over engineered are terms that come to mind... this was clearly not done by accident. The RE's are not perfect, but... in this segment, they nailed it. The RE Interceptor and the new Classic line will be relevant and the industry standard for many, many years. If I had to boil it down to why RE hit the mark... it comes down to how every part of an RE engine is celebrated in its design... nothing fake or veiled.
Let's try to celebrate 🍾🍾🍾the revival of one the most iconic brand BSA for today and keep the criticism for another day...Try to get a ride on the BSA Gold Star🍻🍻🍻
So the last 30 seconds of the video pretty much says it all, 'test ride it and make up ya own mind' could have saved 13 minutes of paid sales pitch, or if not paid manufacturer pressure 😎
I like the new Gold Star and imagine it will become a success sales-wise, but at some point I would love to try out an old bike like the original just to see whether I could master the starting process.
Sounded like a sales pitch for the “new” bike! I’d have the old one every time,pick your roads/ journeys and you’ll be fine on it!
This sounded like you were making a lot of excuses for the bike. This is a direct rival for the Royal Enfield 650s, they managed to get an air cooled motor out and make it emissions compliant. Of course it's an easier daily ride than an old BSA, how does it compare with its main rival?
The water cooled BSA engine will be capable of putting out much more power, I am surprised they are restricting it so much with only 49hp to start.
R.E stopped making 500 cause they didn't want to go water-cooled.It is harder to get a big single through emissions testing.BSA have a twin in the making hopefully it air-cooled & oil cooled but Jawa, Yezdi are water cooled bikes so twin probably be water-cooled too hopefully it air-cooled,oil cooled.Since it water-cooled BSA will bring out a more powerful tuned model to make the most of this model & a 55bhp model is possible.BSA has also got nice looking panniers & bike has pannier rails & sump plate stock.
Great looking bike & customizing it will improve look.I think it's fantastic their is another British heritage bike on the market & be awesome to see BSA & R.E & Triumphs on a group ride.
@@ruahinesrider HERE HERE.🇬🇧
Honestly, you can't compare a single and a twin.
@@shardlake how much more power?
It is the good old Rotax 650cc water cooled single.... it is 47-50 hp for few decades already.
Can’t wait for this bike to come to the U.S. Cosmetically, BSA needs to re-do the radiator to look like what Triumph does on the Bonneville. On the BSA the radiator looks like it came off a Ford model T. One thing I really want to know about any review of a bike, what’s the maintenance interval, regular routine, and the major ones. What the general cost of ownership, mpg, etc…
Will there be a Dealer network? Warranty? What brand tires are they starting out with? Accessories?
It looks nice but where are the dealers for it?Cant see anything on the BSA website.....
Wow, the original Goldie was a real dog! The new ones engine runs like an F650 because it is one, although it looks really good and has been developed to run quite nicely. I enjoyed riding it.
I owned BSA 500 plunger model 1949 and confirm till now no machine to compare it in durable and tough more than a decade that I used to drive around Thailand with happiness
Looks a nice bike and I'll be interested to ride one if/when they arrive in West Australia. Pricing is going to be critical, however. Styling wise, I can live with the radiator; they are nothing new on motorcycles; Scott used them back in 1908 and retained them until the company closed in 1968, though some were built as late as 1978. Suzuki had a radiator on their 1971-77 GT750 Water Bottle. Of far more importance is how the bike feels and rides.
Right mate
Several things which are for me issues. The sound is a bit tame but thats changeable. 12 litre tank would have been lovely if a 16 litre one for touring.
The radiator is a tad ugly and maybe the seat height for taller chaps a bit low. And the other thing will be dealerships etc.
Time will tell and will have to test ride. Am in the market for a new bike and have a soft spot for all things Brum related! But am leaning towards an Enfield as it stands.
Ahh that reminds me no center stand.
New sub! Liked 😁😘😀😀☀️😘
My father used to talk about his 1954 BSA & how complicated it was to start it. Said it always started & he rode it up and down the east coast of the US, in 1958-59. I ride a Bonnie & a BMW GS
Smashing looking bike I must say BUT I Do believe it’s unfair to compare it ONLY WITH the Royal Enfield! You made a very important point about the power ratio of the BSA Compared to the 650 Interceptor!
(I do get the unfortunate fact this bike will be compared to the interceptor as it has been out a while now & is very successful!) it has better torque(only due to being a single)when pulling way up hill! Where as the twin surly has better mid to high range torque?All the videos I’ve seen of both the 650> have been very positive in there respective performance! On a different note am pleased they did something with the exhaust cover as it did look like a shiny scaffolding pole & looks a whole lot better now & am still out on the Radiator it looks huge? Overall a good first impression video but I think you need this bike for a week to really go to town in it!
pls tell which you buy interceptor or bsa
Great to finally see more of this bike. Two things for me is surely they could have designed a better cleaner looking radiator. And if they went to the trouble of making it water cooled, then why not more power and torque so it would sit better with the competition? But I will reserve final judgment until I see one up close
I think they wanted to keep it A2 friendly, and the costs low, hence there power figures.
Its 100% to keep it within A2 limits. If A2 didnt exist all these 45-48 hp bikes would probably be running 55-60 hp
@@_AnanasIEgenJuice_ thanks. I forgot to take that into account. Maybe they should have kept the Gold Star name for a higher spec non A2 version and called this one a Lightning or something?
Great looking bike & I agree could of been even better with a Triumph style radiator thin black alloy high flow radiator & associated plumbing.
I would buy one at this price & would put a thin black alloy high flow radiator like Triumphs on.I would also swap the oversized rear shocks for more in proportion with bike of this style.I think customizing it will make a good bike a great bike.Has more tourqe than stock R.E twin but slip on's with extra £500 will increase tourqe & shed weight.
Also be interesting to see how far 12Liter tank gets bike & considering you want to leave at least 3.5-4L in tank at fill up.
@@ruahinesrider hello from a fellow RE rider in NZ!
For preventing engine overheat I used Bardahl 2 tiny can with #40 engine oil 500ml for it
Great styling, chunky forks and wide bars, nice finish, what does it weight/set height. But possibly a limited market, £1200 more buys a Ducati Scrambler.
I love classics like bsa and royal enfields
Oh just an aside, I had an Ariel 500 Red hunter. starting was easy, always ran right, and was fairly economic. So to get the Goldie to run on say trials, they used a lower compression ratio, and a different carb!
Thanks for this looksee and your thoughts on that new "BSA Goldstar", which I feel truly earns those air quotes, seeing as how that Mahindra-built ride shares about as close a relation to an actual BSA as I do with King Mswati III of Swaziland or any of his 14½ wives. Honestly, I wouldn't have appreciated it any less with an honest Mahindra badge on the tank. While I do understand the marketing appeal of that moribund "BSA" name, I cannot shake the notion of that moniker's presumption now as being anything but a phoney imposture. Yet, given your long and often honestly shared experience with a REAL Goldstar, YOUR opinion of this new pretender to the mantle is the one I should probably care more about, as it carries real weight, since I've only ever owned a little BSA 441 Victor Special single. Comparing the new "Goldstar" briefly with its presumed main rival in its market segment, the Royal Enfield Interceptor, was also insightful. So, well done, Sir!
whats it do to the uk gallon
I have an Interceptor 650 and I think I would change mine for one of these based on looks and quality.
With or without the baffle....they both sound like a lawnmower. I'm waiting for bsa to bring out the new lighting twin. That's a machine I would be interested in. I realize bsa had to start somewhere but I have never been a fan of the sound from a single. I'm not a possible customer for this model but being a brit bike fan I sure hope it sells well, so bsa might consider building a 1969 lightning replica. That was one of the prettiest machines ever made in my opinion. Anyway...here's to bsa having great succes🍷🍺🍸