Florida Beekeepers Part 9: Ray Latner, segment #1 of 2
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- Ray Latner of High Springs, FL. shares his candid views on a variety of issues including almond pollination, citrus failure, waning honey crops, Chinese tallow tree eradication, wintering colonies in Florida and more.
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www.floridacitrus.org
American Honey Producers Assoc. www.ahpanet.com/tallowinfo
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Bob, I can listen to you talk about bees all day everyday!
Would love to see a live Q&A. Who cares if it goes 4 hours long. 😂🤣🤷♂️
Great video, waiting on the next in the series.
Thanks for sharing.
Great video series. Thank you for taking your time for doing the videos.
Another great video, as usual. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and taking time to let us to see inside different aspects of the industry.
This is a lot of good knowledge, thank you both for doing interview.
Fantastic Video Bob. Looking forward to part 2
My oh my , I have a lot to learn. I so enjoy these learning videos you guys are posting. Mind stimulating beyond belief ! Great job
That’s terrible about the orange trees I love Florida oranges I had some of the best I’ve ever had from Florida thanks for sharing buddy god bless everyone
What a AWESOME video, so much knowledge between you two, that's major league beekeeping, thank you so much for sharing this can't wait for part 2, now let watch this again another 3 times, thank you Bob, God bless you!
Bob im a 55 hive guy an hour North of Houston 4 th year beekeeper. Thank you so very much for these videos incredible wealth of info, NEVER heard about the Citrus issue, Sitting here stunned by the Tallow info which as a honey seller is EVERYTHING here. I guess we truly are our own worst enemies at times to ourselves and our environment.
Excellent. Very informative. Thanks for your effort to make your videos
*Thanks for sharing interesting valuable content Bob* 👍🇺🇲
Have been watching these vids and must say they are first class ..and have noticed that all the people interviewed show alot of respect for BOB ...
Great information!! Thanks Bob!
I've been ordering bee equipment for years from Ray, & Jerry before him. Very good equipment. Its good to see who I order from. Would like to see Hobiera & the others. Thanks Bob for the great information.
Wow!!
Much appreciated Bob
I squeeze 2 limes into a 5 gallon bucket of sucrose to extend the life of the syrup. Also found that almost no mold is seem.
Thanks, Bob, for doing these videos. It is so important for people to understand how the industry works to concentrate on the right things to help bees and beekeepers. Regarding the release of the two non-native species, beekeepers should look at it differently. It will not irradicate the trees we have. It is a misconception. It will just slow down the spread. I don't think beekeepers should be scared of that. Also, the release of these insects might not even work, which is what I think after looking into the data and taking it to the project leader. Let's keep observing, folks. No reason to be worried about that. Keep the good work!!
Thanks for your comment.
@@bobbinnie9872 let me know if I can be useful. Cheers.
they will destroy something else bet on it
Jerry Latner at Dadants in High Springs where I keep bees at High Springs Orchard with Jenny and Chuck Franklin is famous also going back to the midnight blue starline queen production days and a consortium of those guys which also included Dr. Larry Connor, of WicWas press that publishes bee books. Ray continues this family legacy which includes their work in Texas, all very interesting, Bob Binnie these are great videos.
Great video Bob and great information! In my opinion, they should leave the bugs in China, and use a prison work work crew to cut back the Tallow trees. But don't destroy them all!😲😲😲
Wow that's cool
That is bad news for the orange groves. What are the risk to other parts of the country? I have seen a demonstration of the box nailer but i am curious of how the frames are nailed together in a production facility. Thank you for another information filled video.
Apparently there must be some risk but I don't know much about it. I was unable to catch the frame nailer working. It would have been nice to see.
we will never learn, we can't play god and expect it to go right. I live next to a research lab and they are letting out my enemy the dreaded dragon fly to try and control the horse fly. You got to see the monsters just flying over my hives in July and August. No chance a queen would make it home in my hood. Thanks Rutgers
Great vid! What is the "recommended" bleach ratio? Thanks.
One cup per drum, one teaspoon per gallon.
What amount of bleach/chlorine is required and safe in the sucrose syrup to avoid fermentation?
We have good luck with one cup per 50 gallons ( 1 teaspoon per gallon).
Can anyone point me towards that very slick brood holding/transportation box? Not finding it on Dadants site. Thanks!
I don't anyone that sells them but here is a video on how we make them. ruclips.net/video/OH7v7xUdWFI/видео.html
Quick question, if the sucrose starts to ferment is it bad for the bees? I use gallon jars, i figured it might ferment on the hive if the bees don't use it right away.
Thank you for the videos!
I actually had the same question so I’ll drop a comment and wait for a reply
Bees, like humans, can metabolize some fermentation but large amounts will make them sick
The 7 5/8 inch are called in Europe Langstroth 2/3. (Introduced or published by Prof. Clayton L. Farrar) Two 2/3 have the same size like Dadant US ( or modified called). How Mister Latner sayed. You get a very good size for brood nest.
Dadant US frame size was developed by Camille Dandant. Ironically Dadant US is the standard size for commercial beekeepers in Europe. So, every beekeeper knows the name Dadant, but not Langstroth.
Sincerly, Gerd from Germany
(Operating as Hobbiest Dadant US and Langstroth 2/3)
I have been using central oil in my feed wintergreen T tree and Spearman My question is do you think it's OK to use all the time I'll like it because it keeps the jars clean. Thanks for the videos
I'm not an expert at this so I really don't know but it seems like it would be OK.
@@bobbinnie9872 ok thank you for your reply and all you do for us bee keeping
Thanks for the video Bob! So sad to hear about our Florida Citrus Trees. I have a lot of Tallow trees in my area and my bees love it. Why is our state people wanting to get rid of it? Seems like every time government gets into stuff they screw it up!
The worst thing a person can hear is :
Hello, I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.
I don't have a good answer for that.
"America is an insane asylum run by the inmates." - Lester Roloff
@@jeremyhuggins8796 It's looking like that!
@@jeremyhuggins8796
Government means
Mind control.
Govern = control
Ment = Mind
- old Latin
(Probably why they no longer teach Latin)
Just like
Entertainment means
Enter the Mind
(Careful what entertains you)
Hey great interview! I have come across frames that do not have the usual taper towards the end of them they are the se thickness except for a small bevel at the end. Do you know if there is any difference between the two performance wise or other than the cost of manufacturing why the taper on frames is there?
I really appreciate how you bring the hobbyist and commercial perspective to your conversations. Great work keep it up.
If you're referring to the bottom of the end bars I'm guessing it was just a manufactures preference. It may make the end bar stronger. Decades ago I knew of a few very large beekeepers that manufactured frames for themselves and others that had end bars that were 7/16 inch thick with no taper at the bottom because they felt they were much stronger.
Thanks.
Hi Bob, you mention lemongrass oil as feeding stimulant, Mr. Werner mentioned teatree oil for wound healing. do you think it would fit in a sucrose solution? I know about alternative nosema treatments in Est-Europe, "Nozevit", wich is made of tanning agents, if I`m right you or your "guests" never said something about tanning agents. I guess that would prevent sucrose solutions to spoil too and it would also flush the bees midguts... alwas looking forward to your answer!! I really think that tanning agents can have benefits!! Patrick
Hi Patrick. I have read articles that promote lemongrass oil as being something that helps with nosema and other issues. It's the main ingredient in Honey B Healthy and Pro Health and is thought by many to help. I have not ever noticed a difference in my bees when feeding that but then again I probably didn't have a problem when I used it. I have only heard here-say that tea tree oil can help in syrup and have never tried it. So many of these ideas are just that, here-say or theory, so I tend to take the "watch and see" approach before trying it. I have heard about Nozevit but have never used it and don't personally know anyone that has so I couldn't give a report on that.
@@bobbinnie9872 Good evening Bob, thanks a lot for your straight answers!:-)
I need to make trials about essential oils and sucrose solutions. I`m used to work with diff. solutions while targeting specific goals. In one of your feeding vids you mentioned and underlined the chemical reactions with the bee enzymes, H2O and the sucrose complex "generating" N2O2 and by the way the "Spivak- propolis - envelope".... both opend my eyes! Here in Switzerland we have a couple of very nice persitsant EFB strains! :-) It can be very bad! Promoting specificly those tools gives my hives an incredible integrity!!! Into my eyes, the bees manifest a much better immunocompetence! ... with some others rules to follow...
do you have any other tips in this direction?
Which are perhaps completely normal things for you with 40 years of professional experience... but not for us?
thanks a lot! Pat
Have been toying with the idea of putting thymol in syrup, and information on how much to put per gallon??
I have thought I might like to try it but haven't yet so I can't say much about it.
Hey Bob I’m 33 years old and I live on a 260 acre farm in southwestern Missouri. We have lush pastors great for beekeeping. I grew up here and my grandpa and I have always raised beef cattle. He’s passed away last year. I’ve always wanted this to be more of an income producing farm. So recently my eyes were opened to the bee business in a strange way. We own a small trucking company and we started hauling bees to The almonds out of Georgia and Florida. So this spring I purchased 2 Nuc’s and I’ve made a few splits and I have 4 full double deeps and 2 Nuc’s all with Italian queens from California. I have good work ethic and quite enjoy beekeeping (I literally dream about beekeeping in my sleep) , also I have resources to get into the bee business and am a business minded person. What direction would U recommend? Do u think with our climate I could get them heavy enuf to go strait to California from here? Should I just pursue the honey production market around here and sell bees and stay at home?I also have a commercial building space here on the farm. I have the passion, Where’s the money at Bob?
Check out Ian Steppler's RUclips channel "A Canadian Beekeeper's Blog" - he specifically addresses getting started in a commercial beekeeping operation (his is non-migratory). His circumstances are similar to yours in that he is on his and his family's farm where they also have crops (canola, alfalfa) and a cattle operation. He is different in that his in in Manitoba, Canada (so colder than you). His videos are top quality .
You sound ambitious and ready to work. That will be helpful. Anyone that thinks they will make a good living with bees and only work 40 hours a week needs to move on.
In your area diversification is probably the key. There is no guarantee you will make a good honey crop each year, in fact just the opposite. There's good money in almond pollination and it comes even in the bad years. Having three or four irons in the fire insures at least some income even in bad production years. Selling nucs, packages or singles, just like California, is sure money even when there isn't a good honey flow and then when good bumper crops come along you can pay down bills and expand your business. Without diversification I wouldn't have flourished. Yes, you can ship good bees to almonds from your area. Expect it to take a few years before the mistakes don't outweigh the successes. Good luck, you have a big adventure ahead.
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks Bob.
Hey what’s the best way to contact u I’m thinking of buying 50 to 100 hives off u this spring if availability allows
What did Mr. Ray mean when he said Alabama is a closed state?
Bees cannot cross state line
Thanks I just re-read the title 2, chapter 14 code about that. I remember that now. When I read it the first time, I didn't realize the application in relation to migratory bees. I was only thinking about buying used equipment and bringing it across state lines.
They will take bees in packages but not bees on comb.
every bee keeper who depends on tallow needs to get a class action suit against them only way to stop their total control
$19.50! Per Colony ! Yikes lol
Was Coke bought with a nickle aswell lol
Actually by then it may have been a dime😋
What is sucrose ?
I’m desperate or them to build comb or they might not get throw winter, il end up taking them home, told the wife, we might be having 20k visitors over Christmas just to keep them warmer, and a pipe outside
Sucrose sugar syrup. We make our syrup with granulated cane sugar which is 100% sucrose.
@@bobbinnie9872 would that be the brown or white one Bob
@@bobbinnie9872 would golden syrup be ok to use , it’s a liquid refined cane sugar
@@aymickey I'm not familiar with golden syrup but I know brown sugar, powdered sugar (contains starch) and molasses will make them sick.
@@bobbinnie9872 ok, I not use, it is the byproduct of cane sugar, Google it when you have a minute
Minute 7:00,
Assuming the invasive nature of a plant ia equal to that of an insect, there whould be no concern (sarcasm). 300 year head start will moat likely equate to 10 foe thw insects.
I hope we find a native or naturalized predator insect keeps the new population in check
tallow I'll say it again TOTAL CONTROL !
Can any good thing come out of China?
APHIS is making a big mistake trying to get rid of the tallow trees. One never knows what those new bugs will evolve to eating that they don't know about yet. The holstein cow is an invasive species as is the soybean plants. Who decides which invasive species is detrimental? How about the pheasants and chickens??
"The holstein cow is an invasive species"? Seriously?
@@MinnesotaBeekeeper Is it native to North America? They came from northern Europe. Soybeans came from China as did the pheasant. We could be milking bison. LOL