i agree with several of your points, i feel it really only works for untamed. it does give goodish spikes in wvw but you have to use the stealth mechanic just to access the good skills (spear 3 &4) I never really use 2. but the weapon just feels SLOW! Like you said once your done with a rotation your stuck in a weird spot of being able to do nothing if your not just aggressing the whole time. With skill 3 still not auto direction change really slows things down as well. I like using the weapon because new shiny thing but I have alot of complaints with it. Not good in zergs, the reveal on skill usage sucks, no defensive usage, going into stealth isnt worth the hassle, etc. With that being said though I have been able to get in some good 1v1 or 1v2s
Agreed. I craft the legendary spear when expansion launch. My main in a Ranger too and... man... it's terrible. I try to create custom builds only for spear but, none as good as other weapons. All weapons are better than the spear, even the staff.
I'm getting 1000 kills for the astral acclaim and then it's going in the bank lol. Not having CC and randomly switching from melee to ranged attacks is completely wack. I've also noticed that the auto targeting of this weapon seems off? Like I'll be in front of 3 enemies, perfect to melee them all at once, I press 1 and.. start throwing a ranged spear at some enemy all the way in the back. So now I hit just 1 enemy in front of me instead of all 3. Going back to dual axe + longbow after this because it suits all my close/far combat PvE situations.
@@PaperRoll Hahah I just use it in group events where it's easy to get some hits in and farm kills. I lost count of the amount of time I had to switch weapons in the menu at this point
Not having Two-handed training affect land spear hopefully is an oversight they fix. Greatsword swoop has 1000 range, soulbeast bird swoop has 1200, and warclaws engage only has 600, at minimum that should have been 1000. I do a lot of zerging in wvw and I feel useless when using spear so far. And to think this was developed by a ranger main dev. How do you feel about new relics, upcoming vid?
I really hate the shade of green they chose for this spear, and those nets look goofy, so I was a little relieved to see it wasn't going to replace anything. I also don't know why they made it power-based. So many things about this just scream nobody on the spear design team has experience with Ranger. Still if it's between a spear rework, or a longbow rework for Ranger, I'd love to see longbow get some love.
The reveal part sucks, even casting the powered up skill while not being reveal reveals you, so delays other stealth access. The auto attack sometimes also cast melee attach instead of the throw when entering combat. need a massive buff to make it comparable to other class spear skills
I'm not sure how they would fix it without a massive change like remove the reveal or some skills reworks Other than that it will be just a weapon option that's not so special 🫠
@@PaperRoll I made a mistake, meant to say it reveals you even if not stealthed casting the powered up versions, so you delay being able to use spear 5 for no reason. Remove reveal would be fair, the damage isn't even OP when compared to the GS or SW combos. Otherwise like you said complete rework to be condi
Longbow still sucks. They give all the ranger weapons to everyone else. Then they give everyone Rifles and Pistols and we never get shit for RANGERS, see ANET its in the name, RANGEer. Then, we get a spear which has cool mechanics that does range and mele and its just lackluster, weak and SHIT, then they nerf that. I just want a pistol or rifle... At this point id take a damn potato launcher.
A petition for Arena net to give us a potato launcher that is a great idea 😂👌 I agree with you and even if you feel me the fact ranger is called this because of nature not range then why did you give it the best range on release and was the only class to use the 2 bows we need range man 🥲 The could have giving us range or condition but they gave us a melee power weapon with a range trick this is the third power melee weapon In a row
@@Hasarian- first we said range so could be projectile beam or a mix And even if it is projectile the answer is a strong yes think about it why didn't you find it strange in melee weapon and say you think another melee weapon will do ranger any good Because melee or range doesn't define what the weapon do or it's role Support or damage have cc or condition that we usually didn't use high movement teleporting it can be and look like anything And let me give you an example hammer and mace both ate very similar and yet both are good
Imagine if they made longbow unblockable below 600 range so you didn't get projectile denial but flip side you had to be close to the fight. Would make it suddenly viable 😂
Gods bless your heart. I'd trade rangers' luckluster-but-fun spear for boring garbage we've got as guardians. While we are at it have pistols too; I'd rather have rifle vesion of mesmer or rangers' warhorn. At this rate they will delete guardian and just call it willbender, because everything they add is for willbender specifically: offhand sword and sword#3 rework, pistols and now spear. Guardians' identity build for 8 years has been replaced by this nu-guard and support part of it has been given to chrono in the past 2 years. This is so scuffed.
It feels so weird thats there's no damaging condis, and that two handed training doesnt work with it. It's a halfbaked weapon.
Was looking forward to your take on this!
I felt like I was missing something, or using the weapon wrong.
@@TheAquarius87 it us not you the weapon is not good
It works but..... well you watched the video 😆
Yeah I also feel like the spear should have been a GS equivalent, but for condition damage :/
@@Hasarian- would have been greaaaaaat 🤩
i agree with several of your points, i feel it really only works for untamed. it does give goodish spikes in wvw but you have to use the stealth mechanic just to access the good skills (spear 3 &4) I never really use 2. but the weapon just feels SLOW! Like you said once your done with a rotation your stuck in a weird spot of being able to do nothing if your not just aggressing the whole time. With skill 3 still not auto direction change really slows things down as well. I like using the weapon because new shiny thing but I have alot of complaints with it. Not good in zergs, the reveal on skill usage sucks, no defensive usage, going into stealth isnt worth the hassle, etc. With that being said though I have been able to get in some good 1v1 or 1v2s
Agreed. I craft the legendary spear when expansion launch. My main in a Ranger too and... man... it's terrible. I try to create custom builds only for spear but, none as good as other weapons. All weapons are better than the spear, even the staff.
I'm getting 1000 kills for the astral acclaim and then it's going in the bank lol. Not having CC and randomly switching from melee to ranged attacks is completely wack.
I've also noticed that the auto targeting of this weapon seems off? Like I'll be in front of 3 enemies, perfect to melee them all at once, I press 1 and.. start throwing a ranged spear at some enemy all the way in the back. So now I hit just 1 enemy in front of me instead of all 3.
Going back to dual axe + longbow after this because it suits all my close/far combat PvE situations.
@@BlazingsNL I couldn't bring myself to finish 1k kill on it 😂
@@PaperRoll Hahah I just use it in group events where it's easy to get some hits in and farm kills. I lost count of the amount of time I had to switch weapons in the menu at this point
Not having Two-handed training affect land spear hopefully is an oversight they fix. Greatsword swoop has 1000 range, soulbeast bird swoop has 1200, and warclaws engage only has 600, at minimum that should have been 1000. I do a lot of zerging in wvw and I feel useless when using spear so far. And to think this was developed by a ranger main dev. How do you feel about new relics, upcoming vid?
@@AnthoJoh I might make a video about them
Two handed training was changed from spear to underwater spear so no it is not an oversight 😄
Not an oversight, just laziness, they changed the tooltip after the beta on the trait to say it affects "underwater spear".
I really hate the shade of green they chose for this spear, and those nets look goofy, so I was a little relieved to see it wasn't going to replace anything. I also don't know why they made it power-based. So many things about this just scream nobody on the spear design team has experience with Ranger. Still if it's between a spear rework, or a longbow rework for Ranger, I'd love to see longbow get some love.
@@baby_ghoul yes why the net square it looks unique but come on it need many more ends to look natural not 4 😂
The reveal part sucks, even casting the powered up skill while not being reveal reveals you, so delays other stealth access. The auto attack sometimes also cast melee attach instead of the throw when entering combat. need a massive buff to make it comparable to other class spear skills
I'm not sure how they would fix it without a massive change like remove the reveal or some skills reworks
Other than that it will be just a weapon option that's not so special 🫠
@@PaperRoll I made a mistake, meant to say it reveals you even if not stealthed casting the powered up versions, so you delay being able to use spear 5 for no reason. Remove reveal would be fair, the damage isn't even OP when compared to the GS or SW combos. Otherwise like you said complete rework to be condi
I've been destroying will it in WvW and PvP. It works great for solo roaming. the skills are a touch too slow I agree
I think the only good weapon (wvw/pvp/pve) for rangers that came in an expansion was the staff.
@@Shiro_Kamui lol 😂 that's hilarious
@@PaperRoll I can't like the main hand dagger, maces, or hammer. In other specs ok, but in ranger 🤮
Ìt is I agree and am so sad about ranger spear :/
reveal sucks, going into stealth to get a better attack that can be dodge the second they see you pop up cause you cant TP to your target
Yessss the reveal hurt your offense and defense 😵💫
Stealth attack can easily be dodged :( I use spear only in open world, not good in competitive mode atm
@@lovejaypo it is worse in open world 😭
@@PaperRoll its unfair that some spear skills from other classes can be used above face running without the need to face the target :(
Longbow still sucks. They give all the ranger weapons to everyone else. Then they give everyone Rifles and Pistols and we never get shit for RANGERS, see ANET its in the name, RANGEer. Then, we get a spear which has cool mechanics that does range and mele and its just lackluster, weak and SHIT, then they nerf that. I just want a pistol or rifle... At this point id take a damn potato launcher.
A petition for Arena net to give us a potato launcher that is a great idea 😂👌
I agree with you and even if you feel me the fact ranger is called this because of nature not range then why did you give it the best range on release and was the only class to use the 2 bows we need range man 🥲
The could have giving us range or condition but they gave us a melee power weapon with a range trick this is the third power melee weapon In a row
Wtf, you think yet another projectile weapon will benefit ranger in any way ?
@@Hasarian- first we said range so could be projectile beam or a mix
And even if it is projectile the answer is a strong yes think about it why didn't you find it strange in melee weapon and say you think another melee weapon will do ranger any good
Because melee or range doesn't define what the weapon do or it's role
Support or damage have cc or condition that we usually didn't use high movement teleporting it can be and look like anything
And let me give you an example hammer and mace both ate very similar and yet both are good
Imagine if they made longbow unblockable below 600 range so you didn't get projectile denial but flip side you had to be close to the fight. Would make it suddenly viable 😂
Gods bless your heart. I'd trade rangers' luckluster-but-fun spear for boring garbage we've got as guardians. While we are at it have pistols too; I'd rather have rifle vesion of mesmer or rangers' warhorn. At this rate they will delete guardian and just call it willbender, because everything they add is for willbender specifically: offhand sword and sword#3 rework, pistols and now spear. Guardians' identity build for 8 years has been replaced by this nu-guard and support part of it has been given to chrono in the past 2 years. This is so scuffed.