The dedication of Peter to this podcast is awesome ! Not only continuously listening to it, appearing on it for hours on end, apparently instantly coming back to join, once he's "challenged" to do so, but also to find the time to rerecord the "Day Tripper" section for the podcast. We can be so lucky for everything he's doing for Beatle-Fans over the last months and the pure love he shows about it. Kinda reminds me how much love was put into the Behind the Szenes of the Lotr Trilogy. This man ist just all about sharing knowledge and experiences ! In case you read this Peter: "Hi !" ;D
The fact that such a prolific A-list director is also deeply devoted to bonding with fellow fans (of The Beatles and perhaps of Tolkien too,.though I’m not up on podcasts from Middle Earth) demonstrates that Jackson has genuine rather than sculpted humility and is the salt of the earth we hoped he’d be, and makes a consumer of content like me feel I too make a passive contribution to culture rather than just endlessly doss about!
Peter is so humble with his knowledge and skills - and so genuine . He’s an absolute pleasure to listen to. ❤ He always raises points and facts of interest.
@@dynjarren7523 You may be thinking of the Sheridan tapes, which are not the Star Club tapes, on which they sing all the vocals (except for the one track sung by a waiter).
There is only so much Mal can do. If I listen to the new 2023 remix of She Loves You, which is not from the original master tape (because it's lost), i'm disappointed. I hope the Hamburg tapes can be made into a more enjoyable listening experience, less reverb etc, but a total clean up, i'm afraid that's not possible unfortunately. i hope i'm wrong.
The dissection of Day Tripper made my day. It was so fascinating to listen to the tracks. For me the most treasured part is to listen to the vocals separated into each member. I’ve heard some of revolver tracks on RUclips with vocals separated and you really hear stuff you’ve never heard before. Absolutely priceless.
Thank you for letter Peter talk and not interrupting. We got so much as a result. Modern TV interviewing is a disaster in comparison. And a big thank you to Peter for one of the most fascinating and in-depth pieces on the band in years.
Any interview with Peter Jackson when he's discussing his views on all things Beatles is a great listen - but the overview of MAL on Day Tripper was absolutely fascinating!...😎
Great podcast, always enjoy it, but WOW! Love when Peter Jackson is a guest. So many interesting anecdotes and behind the scenes stories for us. The time flew by, and will listen again and again to make sure I got it all. Thanks for letting him talk and talk! So valuable. Glad he’s on our side and wants more Beatles released 💗
Could never thank Peter and his team enough for the work they're doing for Beatle people all over the world. It's SO odd to me having followed his directing career since Bad Taste to have him linked so closely to what I have loved the most in the world for 54 years now, The Fabs. Intense!
When I first heard that “then and now” is coming out, I was disappointed, as I wanted to “grow old with me” to come out instead. As the song was about to come out and be released, I was expecting NOTHING. On the day it came out on audio, I listened to it and it was better than I expected. Then the next day when the video came out for “now and then”, I fell in love with the song, as the song grew on me. Now it it will always be one of my favorite all time Beatles song. The message of the song, the magic of the song, the love by Paul to complete the song of his best friend John is heartwarming and finally, hearing John’s voice is unimaginable and priceless. What I learned by the song is that, Shouldn’t we all not look in our heart and remember our forgotten loved ones, every now and then.
@@dukeviking Paul did state in a interview that he was given 4 songs, and “grow old with me” was one of these songs, however in the interview, it sounded like Paul felt uncomfortable doing this song at that time (1994). Hopefully as Paul will rethink this as technology is now better and John’s demo can be separated, and do a duet with him and John (alike he did with “i got a feeling”.). With the overwhelming positive response from the public to “now and then”, I know there’s a very slim chance that this will happen, but maybe it will, as this would be a fitting thing for Paul to do.
But that should matter, since the mix itself could be dissected by MAL, liberating all the radio additions ( which Peter said it did). And of course, you hear SOME of the Shakespeare in the new mix - but most of it, including the very last things heard in the standard mix, are so buried in the new mix that they’re virtually inaudible. Also, although the Shakespeare performance was live the night the Beatles mixed the track, a recording of the broadcast exists (I have a copy), so even if MAL hadn’t been able to separate it, the existence of the recording separately means that there is no excuse for it having been lost in the new mix.
@@allankozinn192 the breakdown Peter Jackson did on day tripper absolutely extraordinary. Incredible detail. He also gave Allan and Adrian an incredible compliment in that he went back to his old catalogue due to your book. Awesome stuff. Guy is a billionaire and you gave 4 hours of his time. Plus breaking down mixes. Incredible and this is his second visit. He paid hundreds of thousands for Star club master for mal. Incredible generosity. Peter Jackson is Beatles fans best friend.
@@allankozinn192 the breakdown Peter Jackson did on day tripper absolutely extraordinary. Incredible detail. He also gave Allan and Adrian an incredible compliment in that he went back to his old catalogue due to your book. Awesome stuff. Guy is a billionaire and gave 4 hours of his time. Plus breaking down mixes. Incredible and this is his second visit. He paid hundreds of thousands for Star club master for mal. Incredible generosity. Peter Jackson is Beatles fans best friend.
EPIC IS THE WORD: Thanks to Peter Jackson, I can't remember anything a fan has ever done that was such an act of love and genius as his work with The Beatles from Get Back on.
Peter is one of us. A true Beatles fan. So grateful for everything he’s done, and will do, for The Beatles legacy. It’s in good hands. The ‘Now and Then’ video is absolutely brilliant. He perfectly demonstrated now, and then, and even took it all the way THEN (to the beginning.) I cry all the way through it every time and by the time we see Paul playing bass with his younger self behind him and the boys breaking down the equipment - I’m completely in the ugly cry. And the final bow and fade out… my gawd 😭 Thank you, Peter. I’ll treasure it forever. 🫶🏽 PS - We would eat up your 18-hour version of ‘Get Back!’ 👏🏽👏🏽
Great talk, Peter is a legend. Regarding the Day Tripper vocals, I think Paul sings the main harmony and George is the short high part. A friend of mine's mum worked at Apple in the fan club and is an extra in Magical Mystery Tour, she visited the studio once when they recorded I Am The Walrus! She says George was the nicest and looked out for her as she was only a teenager.
What a fascinating discussion. Loved every minute. Pleased he has the Star Club Tapes! Safe hands! If you're reading this Peter, thank you for Get Back and Now and Then.
Regarding the isolated vocals in 'Day Tripper': Lennon only sings every second half of the lines during the verses, also as seen during the promo videos. So 02:42:50 is actually a mix of McCartney and Lennon solo. And 02:43:58 is McCartney throughout, in a very distinctive way.
@@Nickel1147 No doubt about it. Doesn't get more 1965 McCartney than this. The timbre, the accent, the phrasing, the vibrato. Completely different to Lennon and Harrison. The "one way ticket, yeah" line for example sounds like it comes straight from the 'I'm Down' intro, recorded 4 months prior.
@@strangedaysindeed9 plus Paul could imitate both John and George. The isolated vocals of Paul and John are sublime. Their harmonies are just one of the reasons i'm a fan since 1962. Such a treat to listen to Peter Jackson. Mark Lewisohn next?
Congratulations on having Peter Jackson get back on your show. He seems so comfortable chatting with you guys and wow did he drop some bombshells. This is going to take a while to process but it’s already blowing up in the Beatles forums. Thanks again for all your hard work.
Peter Jackson has definitely made an enormous contribution to the Beatles musical legacy. He appears to be a loyal and devoted Fan and they are definitely worth it. I feel the same way since I was ten and first saw Hard Days Night. I was stunned by their music and style. I also enjoyed their sense of humor and like their Scouse accents. I knew they were special and fifty plus years later, I’ve been proven right. They were an incredible phenomenon and are unforgettable. Thanks for the interview and fresh insights. Thank you, Peter Jackson for everything you do.
Exciting, informative, and so, generous of Peter sharing his. welcoming insight. Thank you to Peter and all involved in such an ethereal and attention commanding. performance. No boundaries for love camaraderie and true. musicians not even. tbe sands of time.
Once again, what a fascinating interview. Somehow Peter's rambling style of relaying information works for my brain. It is much like listening to a piece music. This is delightful. Many thanks.
FYI: According to Mark Lewisohn, the song Jackson mentions that The Beatles are playing in the silent color footage with Pete Best in 1962 is "Dream," which Cliff Richard had recently covered. (The footage is usually dated to Hulme Hall around Valentine's Day. Ironically, Pete himself is not in the camera shot.) It was a swing-era standard which Ringo also recorded on SENTIMENTAL JOURNEY. I have never seen any reference to the second performed song he cites, and since the footage is so brief, it seems doubtful that there really is such an additional one.
who and why was there a "Clare Olssen" frame showing for the whole show. I made the video smaller. Oh well. excellent having Peter talking about everything!! Great Show guys!
Brilliant getting Peter on the show ,Darren said you don't get the original mix in the boxsets but you do I've got the original mono mix in the Revolver boxset.
A surprjse. A tutorial on MAL and the new clairity of "Day Tripper" as if we are. a fly on the wall, eavesdropping or the fifth Beatle. Thank you Peter
GREAT show: historic actually. ..you guys asked EVERY question that I wanted to hear...EVERY one! Peter Jackson was so generous and detailed w/ his answers and demonstrations of MAL as applied to "Day Tripper." Special kudos to Darren for asking Peter to walk us through the MAL technology, defining it, and what it actually does (and how it is different, completely, from AI)! I REALLY needed to hear that discussion! Also, the Star Club bombshell acquisition was a huge shock. I had no idea that the initial run of "Get Back" on Blu-Ray was flawed. I'm glad I picked it up later now! The History of that release, and Disney's involvement, was an eye-opener as well.
Any chance you could get Emile de la Rey on the show to talk about the nitty gritty technical details about the MAL system and specific things the team did on the Red and Blue album material?
Thanks very very much to the "Things We Said Today" podcast gentlemen for this interview and presentation. Peter Jackson, you and your creative team are the magi of our modern age, your humility and generosity to share this with us is wonderful, thank you very much. I've really enjoyed both appearances on this podcast and the extraordinary restoration and preservation work you have been doing the recorded legacy of the Beatles, which we all adore. I would like to see all your separated tracks in the public domain, to really open it up to the world's talent to remix and visualize this material. Similarly with the complete audio stream and video stream of the Get Back sessions that sit on that laptop. It really is a audio visual archive (that hopefully will one day) be openly online and able to be studied, re-edited in a myriad of ways by a myriad of creative minds. I loved your response that you are providing people with choices of how they listen and view these things. You really have provided a great choice for future generations if these files are looked after and eventually are placed into the public domain.
Also Peter is sooooo trusted when it comes to The Beatles projects, He did such a good job! Bravo man! Please Please Us! And make the 90s sessions into a film :)
I believe there will be more NEW Beatles material thanks to now and then plus the positive reaction to Jacksons video will only feed the interest. Star Club remix will be welcome I wonder if the Mal will source Other Star Club dates (Im aware other dates have also been recorded, Great hearing Peter again a wealth of information for Beatles fans for behind the scenes explanations is a real treat, Thanks for this deep dive,
Thank you so much for this episode, I enjoyed it a lot. Very interesting to hear Peter Jackson tell stories about his part of the projects - Get back and Let it Be films, Now and Then audio and video, and also the new red and blue compilation albums. It is amazing what he has done, and I loved to have some insight into his dedication - it must have been great for him (as a Beatles fan himself) to work with and expand all this stuff that he loves - even being so instrumental in Now and Then, that it probably wouldn't have happened without him. I also loved to hear that he is already working on the Hamburg tapes and I really hope that he succeeds in making this happen also. Huge thanks to Peter Jackson for all he has done, and thanks to you guys for the interview, it was great! Best regards from Lars Henrik Fabrin, Denmark
Hello Gentleman. I just finished this "chat" with Peter Jackson. I think he and his team are geniuses. After i heard about the MAL tech they developed for the Get Back sessions i immediately thought " Yes! Now this opens the door for them to remix / remaster the ENTIRE Beatles catalog! I was really encouraged when Revolver came out. However, after seeing the Red & Blue records released i am not optimistic that there will be any further deluxe remasters. Since they put a LOT of Rubber Soul on the Red LP i seriously doubt that they will put out a box for Rubber Soul. If they don't do that record, a record that inspired Brian Wilson to make pet Sounds, what hope is there for them to go all the way back to Please Please Me, with The Beatles or A Hard Days Night, not to mention Beatles For Sale? As the discussion progressed and Peter spoke about what he was interested in doing in the future but that it was totally up to Apple or Disney, in the case of additional Get Back footage, I feel like this might be the end of any major releases. the other reasons he mentioned was about the "shareholders" of these companies and wanting to make money for their investments. There has never seemed to be much imagination coming from Apple regarding what the fans are clambering for - EVERYTHING! LOL I can come up with a MILLION new projects and while the original Beatle fans are getting less in number i feel like there is plenty of interest from the next generations. If they aren't going to do separate boxes for every record what about doing a Movie box featuring A Hard Days Night, Help, Magical Mystery Tour & Yellow Sub? You could also include either the extra Get Back Footage or the totally remastered Let It Be movie to top of the set. What about releasing the Shea Stadium show using Mal to get the soundtrack music correct? How about their very first concert in Washington D.C. (which i STILL believe is one of the finest and most historical of their performances i've ever seen)? what about a release for 2024 - a 1964 box with ALL of the Ed Sullivan shows in video and audio, as well as the 5 records that made up the Top 5 on the April 4th 1964 charts along with A Hard Days Night and Beatles for sale? You could include a few posters and buttons that reflect the more of what Beatlemania was about. You cold re-release the I Want To Hold Your Hand as a companion single using the new mixes. More like the latest Who's next release which includes 10 cd's, a book, badges, posters. Anyway, i enjoyed hearing you all talk with Peter. I will be waiting for the next one should you have one. Cheers Tony
Thank you for this interview and thank you Peter Jackson on behalf of all Beatles fans! Whatever your thoughts on the music video (I loved it) you have to admit it’s great having someone like PJ whispering in Apples ear about stuff they should do. I feel like Charlie Brown except instead of a football it’s a blu ray of Let it Be that keeps getting taken away from me, but knowing that it is done and a commentary track has been recorded just makes it all the more frustrating that we don’t have it yet! You guys asked pretty much everything I would have been able to think of. Glad that he understands that Beatles fans for the most part are the kind of people who like to have physical releases on their shelves (boo Disney) Hopefully he works with Apple for years to come on more projects (a revamped Anthology maybe?) and it’s so cool to know he is as generous with his time in interviews as he is in his films!
It's so frustrating to know that companies like Apple and Disney get to withhold so much from us, especially when people like Peter Jackson are enthusiastic to give it to us.
Great stuff, guys! Peter always amazes me at how generous he is with his answers, and that "Day Tripper" breakdown segment he sent you after the fact is such a perfect example of that. The most revealing thing here for me is what he said about I Am the Walrus (and THANK YOU so much for asking him about that)... this makes Giles Martin's mix even more puzzling to me, because Peter reveals that they DID in fact successfully separate all the radio elements using MAL. And yet there are still elements present in the 2023 mix that as far as I can tell ARE NOT in the original, particularly that loud, intrusive symphonic thing that starts around 4 minutes 7 seconds. I am even more confused now... where did Giles get that from, and why did he put it in the mix, when he clearly didn't even need it? I can't fathom he would just pull it out of a hat, which makes me think it must be from another alternate mono mix with different radio elements, but Peter seems to indicate they only did the MAL treatment on the one mix. Of course I'm all for hearing those alternate elements if they exist, but that should have been saved for the MMT box set... not thrown in this collection for a whole new generation of listeners who may have never heard the song before. It's tantamount to repainting a Picasso. I'm assuming at some point Giles will explain himself on this one, until then I remain completely flummoxed.
The Two songs in the silent footage in leather jackets supplied by Pete Best Mark Lewisohn thinks the first segment, George is seen singing, thought to be 'Dream', the lead song on what was then the latest EP by Cliff Richard and the Shadows. The second segment, Paul is singing Gene Vincent's 'Dance In The Street' which the Beatles amended to 'Twist In The Street' to appeal to the latest dance craze.
I love this. Thank you. Interesting that Peter’s non-musician status may have influenced how things were separated. For example, there are clearly two guitars on track two of Day Tripper: John on rhythm, and George on the riff. Yet Peter talks about it as a single guitar track. Is this why it isn’t separated? I found it a mystery as to why some songs on Red have separated guitar tracks, and others don’t. This seems to explain it: if Peter and his staff are hearing them as one guitar part and not two, maybe that’s why the different parts are mixed as one on some tracks on Red. Actually, it’s the same for Revolution: on Love Giles separated the main guitars, but on Blue they’re together. My guess is that Giles decided to work only with Peter’s stems, rather than the original multitrack parts.
Concur. Also, trying to separate out a block vocal that might have been doubled must be a bit of a nightmare. I feel I'd want to sit next to whoever and try and help out like most of us!
It’s a good theory, but the problem is that (as I understand it) the separations are not done by Peter, his staff or other humans, but by the MAL program, based on the amount of material (as Peter explained) fed into it. So in theory, it has been “taught” John’s guitar sound and George’s - but if they’re both playing their Epiphone Casinos, it might conceivably have been confused.
3:17:20 - Darren, they have been putting the original mixes the band were behind (the original mono mixes) in all the boxsets, except for "Abbey Road" in 2019 and "Let It Be" in 2021..
There was a mono mix done of Abbey Road, but this was only released in a few countries, and not the UK and USA, and as you say, not in the box set. No mono mix of Let It Be was done.
All around fantastic! I am hoping that before any live box set gets released that Rubber Soul gets done first. I wonder what peter's thoughts would be about the Yellow Submarine Songbook release from 1999. I remember hearing Eleanor Rigby & Nowhere Man and they just blew my mind, they sounded miles better than anything else before them. Great show!!! I really wish that Universal/Disney had nothing to do with the Beatles. We would have had a great Get Back DVD set with bonus tracks. My only concern with the Red/Blue albums is that I feel there was absolutely no reason to make The colored vinyl sets so limited that now people have to pay double on Discogs or Ebay, it is just a shame. They should have made enough for everybody; and, as a box set there was nothing really box set about them. No book, no promo poster....aside from the mixing it's a huge let down calling it a box set. Respectfully I refuse to bend down to Discogs or Ebay and but the colored vinyl set or any other version of it.
Wonderful stuff. Very interesting to hear Peter’s separations of Day Tripper. I’m sure he (and Mal?) are a bit mislead on who is who though. The words ”Got a good reason” are 100 % certain sung by Paul. Maybe on the same mic as John? Also Paul on track B: ”for taking the easy way out, Day Tripper one way ticket, yeah”.
Peter Jackson; The 7th Beatle and THEEE most important associate in The Beatles' world since George Martin. We are in good hands for the next couple of decades.
It's incredible to me that these people at Apple HQ did not know exactly what footage they had of the 1990s get-to-gether. What on earth was Neil Aspinall doing for all these years that he couldn't organise labelling up some boxes of film properly?
Wish you would have pressed Peter Jackson and asked him specifically who in Apple is delaying the extended cut of GET Back. Jackson is very forthright and making it publicly known is important in putting pressure and possibly making the release a reality.
He already told is in episode 355 - and again in this one -- as I understand it, it's not really Apple, it's Disney, who have the rights to both the streaming version and the DVD/Blu-ray, and therefore can dictate whether there's an extended cut. From their point of view, they've already compromised by allowing it to run 8 hours rather than the 2 hours they had contracted, and putting out a DVD and Blu-ray (with no extras) despite not wanting to put it out in a physical format at all. Personally, I think they're insane, and I've said so a number of times on the show since 2021, but if they won't listen to Peter, they're definitely not going to listen to us.
@@allankozinn192 That is what I meant, specifically who in [Disney] is preventing the Blu-Ray release of a Get Back Expended edition, complete with extra footage? Peter Jackson appeared on a Financial podcast some time ago and was urging fans to voice their support for a Director's cut of Get Back. My fear, judging from Jackson's comments, is that it won't be made available until a 10-year anniversary, which is an awful long wait. Possibly due to distribution rights issues, which I would have liked to have known the particulars about.
@@UnderTheCovers1 Yeah, I don't think we're ever going to get a specific name. If you listen to what Peter said, Disney's corporate policy at this point is to not release physical media So that must go right up to Bob Iger, or whoever was in charge at the time those decisions were made.
@@allankozinn192It’s ironic that Disney is pushing back the extended cut due to the demand supposedly not being there, when the audience is the exact type that wants an extended cut. Just goes to show that all Disney cares about is money. The greed is insane. They’re literally a multi-billion dollar company.
@@nahte- It's craziness even from the perspective of only caring about the money. People could have had the streaming version free -- it was on dozens of websites, in some cases in 2160 quality, within days -- but were willing to buy the DVD or Blu-ray because they want a physical product, which Disney was initially against releasing at all, with or without extras. They may claim that the demand isn't there (on who-knows-what basis), but it's really about control. They seem to feel that so long as a physical product isn't available, they have greater control of the content. But they're deluding themselves.
It’s ironic that Disney is pushing back the extended cut due to the demand supposedly not being there, when the audience is the exact type that wants an extended cut. Just goes to show that all Disney cares about is money. The greed is insane. They’re literally a multi-billion dollar company.
Was George trying to remember Norwegian Wood in the intro while tuning ? Or was i hearing things ... I know he plays a bit at Pauls studio outside in the short film. :)
I must bave somehow llen off tbe planet in 1996 because I was unaware of "Freeas a Bird" and" Real Love" and I am sure tbe rest of tbe universe was aware.
Regarding "Benign A.I.", The whole conversation about needing the lowest generation cassette, and the 1/4" tape master... the benign thing we want tech to be able to do IS the dangerous thing. Have we forgotten The Conversation (1971)?, And the movie cliche since of using EQ (phase cancellation, sending the signal back onto itself to sum out harmonic ranges) and gain (extra stage of power, therefore dynamics) to "isolate things". The exact thing we're giddy about is the thing we don't want Spotify (who's business is user data) to go to lossless or h ires to be able to do. Spying! I wanted basically the "smart"phone but I've had to avoid it because they're security vulnerabilities that can't be protected. I've been a long arguer for Hi Res digital audio, but I hate that it probably won't become user friendly until it's first used to spy on people. The file size issue might be what saves it from being useful for spying. Bluetooth's LDAC might be as dangerously close as we get, but Spleeter and M.A.L.. are not benign, certainly not if M.A.L. can tell the Beatles voices apart. The problem with Spleeter is/was the sound of digital squares where dynamics and harmonic resonance should be, and Get Back and then Revolver 2020 were the development on this tech, so... but, fun is never benign. Certainly developing art is never benign.
Regarding the myth that the third 1995 song was a secret, that is not the case. I first read about it in ICE magazine on release of the third Anthology. Ringo was quoted saying there was a third song that didn't work out for technical reasons. And I found this from the Dec 1995 page of Sound On Sound: Quote: The three Beatles began work in February on a third unfinished Lennon demo. Contrary to press speculation, this song was not 'Grow Old With Me' but one which Lynne and Emerick recall being titled either 'Now And Then' or 'Miss You' - a track which Emerick expects the remaining Beatles to complete in the not too distant future. He says: "We did start work on it, but it was obviously unfinished from a writing point of view, so we thought we'd work on 'Real Love' which had a complete set of words. It'll need to be completed as a song before everybody decides what to do with it, and," he adds with a grin, "it's not hard to imagine who would finish writing it."
I don’t recall it ever being a myth that the third song was a secret, or that it was anything other than Now and Then. It was widely reported at the time - as you point out yourself, citing ICE (which I used to write for). Nor was there ever any mystery why they gave up on it, since John’s demo was available on the bootleg market. A number of people even tried to pass off fakes that they claimed were the Threetles’ working version. So I’m not sure why you say there was a myth that it was a mystery. However, there were four songs on the cassette Yoko gave them, and the fourth was Grow Old With Me, which they all felt was too mawkish.
Yes, correct, we all knew about Now and Then at the time of the Anthologies. It was never a secret. Grow Old With Me had already had a commercial release on Milk and Honey, which I suspect was one reason they left it alone. There are rumours of a new McCartney - Harrison song called All For Love being started...
Yes, Grow Old With Me already had a commercial release - but Real Love did as well. It was on the soundtrack album of the 1988 film Imagine: John Lennon.
@@allankozinn192 I appreciate the reply. I called it a myth because I keep hearing on various Beatle podcasts that the public didn't know about the third song in 1995. Even Peter Jackson here called it a "secret" that wasn't revealed until someone with a connection told him about it, and I don't recall one of you guys correcting that. Maybe I missed something --- it was a long interview, and my attention was distracted at times. Sorry if my wording was strong, but I just wanted to get the record out there that there was public knowledge of the attempt at the time Anthology 3 was released. Anyway, I love your show, and grateful that Peter Jackson gave you so much more of his time.
@@allankozinn192 By the way... You wrote for ICE?! I glossed over that part of your reply on first read. Just want to say that was one of my favorite music mags. That's how much of a nerd I was. I sat with every new issue and pored over it the day it appeared in the mail. Happy to know your connection!
Yes. Paul is doubled on “got a good reason”, then Paul and John are doubled on “for taking the easy way out”. Then it’s JPG doubled on “day tripper, one way ticket yeah”. It’s how they did most of the Rubber Soul harmonies, which is why RS is such a vocally rich album.
Has Peter had a mild stroke? He seems very mumbly and sloppy in his speech and annunciation - having heard him in innumerable interviews, he doesn't seem 100% here at all.
Peter Jackson's Get Back is a wonderful contribution to the Beatles universe, and to the history of our culture in general. One of the best Beatles' products there's ever been, and perhaps the greatest by a third party. However, the video for Now and Then is a mixed experience. Some excellent footage, but too much dated looking cutting and pasting, with arms flailing around like they're attached to puppets. in the Hello Goodbye sections,, George in particular looks two-dimensional in his Pepper costume. Hopefully, Peter will have another look at the video, and replace the unnecessary and jarring goofing around (John on the podium looks clearly superimposed and silly with "his" arms waving about) and fix the wonkiest of the 1967 inserts. Instead of ignoring innovations in filmmaking, Peter could have optimised footage without resorting to completely fake Beatles created via CGI.
He’s done great work so far. He has his work cutout for him because the Starclub shows feature Tony Sheridan and the Beatles as his backup singers. Maybe he can separate the Beatles voices because they are buried in the recording. It’s just not very good. He’s done a great job on the new video for Now and Zen. I don’t like the song but I love the video. Using the alternate footage from the Penny Lane video which was never released officially. That’s an amusing video with them dancing and goofing around. Thanks! 😊
No. The Star Club tapes are completely separate from the Tony Sheridan material. Perhaps you are confused that for two songs, there are Star Club staff who get to come up on stage and sing a bit (if I recall correctly, it’s Horst Fascher a bouncer/manager at the Star Club, singing on Hallelujah, I Love Her So, and his brother/cousin Freddie, on Be Bop A Lu La, credited as “Herr Obber” (Mr. Waiter) by the Beatle that calls him to the stage). Sheridan also performed in Hamburg at the time, and the Beatles backed him on some studio recordings (My Bonnie being the most well known) as well as other live performances at the Top Ten Club, but the Star Club tapes are the Beatles, not Sheridan.
The dedication of Peter to this podcast is awesome ! Not only continuously listening to it, appearing on it for hours on end, apparently instantly coming back to join, once he's "challenged" to do so, but also to find the time to rerecord the "Day Tripper" section for the podcast. We can be so lucky for everything he's doing for Beatle-Fans over the last months and the pure love he shows about it.
Kinda reminds me how much love was put into the Behind the Szenes of the Lotr Trilogy. This man ist just all about sharing knowledge and experiences !
In case you read this Peter: "Hi !" ;D
The fact that such a prolific A-list director is also deeply devoted to bonding with fellow fans (of The Beatles and perhaps of Tolkien too,.though I’m not up on podcasts from Middle Earth) demonstrates that Jackson has genuine rather than sculpted humility and is the salt of the earth we hoped he’d be, and makes a consumer of content like me feel I too make a passive contribution to culture rather than just endlessly doss about!
Peter is so humble with his knowledge and skills - and so genuine . He’s an absolute pleasure to listen to. ❤ He always raises points and facts of interest.
I’m glad the Star club tapes from 1962 are finally being worked on.
great to hear Peter has the original Star Club tapes now. Quite the scoop!
That’s not going to be easy to separate their voices because they were singing back up.
Yes. Amazing revelation. If anyone can make them sound decent it’s Mr. Jackson
@@dynjarren7523 You may be thinking of the Sheridan tapes, which are not the Star Club tapes, on which they sing all the vocals (except for the one track sung by a waiter).
There is only so much Mal can do. If I listen to the new 2023 remix of She Loves You, which is not from the original master tape (because it's lost), i'm disappointed. I hope the Hamburg tapes can be made into a more enjoyable listening experience, less reverb etc, but a total clean up, i'm afraid that's not possible unfortunately.
i hope i'm wrong.
The dissection of Day Tripper made my day. It was so fascinating to listen to the tracks. For me the most treasured part is to listen to the vocals separated into each member. I’ve heard some of revolver tracks on RUclips with vocals separated and you really hear stuff you’ve never heard before. Absolutely priceless.
That Day Tripper Breakdown was amazing!!!
Thank you for letter Peter talk and not interrupting. We got so much as a result. Modern TV interviewing is a disaster in comparison. And a big thank you to Peter for one of the most fascinating and in-depth pieces on the band in years.
Fab!! Thanks for persuading him to talk to us!! Much Appreciated!!
Any interview with Peter Jackson when he's discussing his views on all things Beatles is a great listen - but the overview of MAL on Day Tripper was absolutely fascinating!...😎
I never ending interview 😂
Great podcast, always enjoy it, but WOW! Love when Peter Jackson is a guest. So many interesting anecdotes and behind the scenes stories for us. The time flew by, and will listen again and again to make sure I got it all. Thanks for letting him talk and talk! So valuable. Glad he’s on our side and wants more Beatles released 💗
Could never thank Peter and his team enough for the work they're doing for Beatle people all over the world. It's SO odd to me having followed his directing career since Bad Taste to have him linked so closely to what I have loved the most in the world for 54 years now, The Fabs. Intense!
When I first heard that “then and now” is coming out, I was disappointed, as I wanted to “grow old with me” to come out instead. As the song was about to come out and be released, I was expecting NOTHING. On the day it came out on audio, I listened to it and it was better than I expected. Then the next day when the video came out for “now and then”, I fell in love with the song, as the song grew on me. Now it it will always be one of my favorite all time Beatles song. The message of the song, the magic of the song, the love by Paul to complete the song of his best friend John is heartwarming and finally, hearing John’s voice is unimaginable and priceless. What I learned by the song is that, Shouldn’t we all not look in our heart and remember our forgotten loved ones, every now and then.
unfortunately they never recorded one note for Grow Old with Me; would have been fantastic if they had.
@@dukeviking Paul did state in a interview that he was given 4 songs, and “grow old with me” was one of these songs, however in the interview, it sounded like Paul felt uncomfortable doing this song at that time (1994). Hopefully as Paul will rethink this as technology is now better and John’s demo can be separated, and do a duet with him and John (alike he did with “i got a feeling”.). With the overwhelming positive response from the public to “now and then”, I know there’s a very slim chance that this will happen, but maybe it will, as this would be a fitting thing for Paul to do.
Darren saying Peter contact us for another show is fantastic. And he took you up on that Great job guys
“Aye Darren, heard your show… ready for another go, k?”
@@kylehandtunes ask Paul McCartney to be on the show with ringo next
But that should matter, since the mix itself could be dissected by MAL, liberating all the radio additions ( which Peter said it did). And of course, you hear SOME of the Shakespeare in the new mix - but most of it, including the very last things heard in the standard mix, are so buried in the new mix that they’re virtually inaudible. Also, although the Shakespeare performance was live the night the Beatles mixed the track, a recording of the broadcast exists (I have a copy), so even if MAL hadn’t been able to separate it, the existence of the recording separately means that there is no excuse for it having been lost in the new mix.
@@allankozinn192 the breakdown Peter Jackson did on day tripper absolutely extraordinary. Incredible detail. He also gave Allan and Adrian an incredible compliment in that he went back to his old catalogue due to your book. Awesome stuff. Guy is a billionaire and you gave 4 hours of his time. Plus breaking down mixes. Incredible and this is his second visit. He paid hundreds of thousands for Star club master for mal. Incredible generosity. Peter Jackson is Beatles fans best friend.
@@allankozinn192 the breakdown Peter Jackson did on day tripper absolutely extraordinary. Incredible detail. He also gave Allan and Adrian an incredible compliment in that he went back to his old catalogue due to your book. Awesome stuff. Guy is a billionaire and gave 4 hours of his time. Plus breaking down mixes. Incredible and this is his second visit. He paid hundreds of thousands for Star club master for mal. Incredible generosity. Peter Jackson is Beatles fans best friend.
EPIC IS THE WORD: Thanks to Peter Jackson, I can't remember anything a fan has ever done that was such an act of love and genius as his work with The Beatles from Get Back on.
Peter is one of us. A true Beatles fan. So grateful for everything he’s done, and will do, for The Beatles legacy. It’s in good hands. The ‘Now and Then’ video is absolutely brilliant. He perfectly demonstrated now, and then, and even took it all the way THEN (to the beginning.) I cry all the way through it every time and by the time we see Paul playing bass with his younger self behind him and the boys breaking down the equipment - I’m completely in the ugly cry. And the final bow and fade out… my gawd 😭 Thank you, Peter. I’ll treasure it forever. 🫶🏽 PS - We would eat up your 18-hour version of ‘Get Back!’ 👏🏽👏🏽
Not so sure Peter is a fan of the Beatles solo work.
Great talk, Peter is a legend. Regarding the Day Tripper vocals, I think Paul sings the main harmony and George is the short high part.
A friend of mine's mum worked at Apple in the fan club and is an extra in Magical Mystery Tour, she visited the studio once when they recorded I Am The Walrus!
She says George was the nicest and looked out for her as she was only a teenager.
What a fascinating discussion. Loved every minute. Pleased he has the Star Club Tapes! Safe hands! If you're reading this Peter, thank you for Get Back and Now and Then.
Top of all Beatle podcasts for two great Peter Jackson appearances. Can we go talk to Jody Klein and the Stones now.
Regarding the isolated vocals in 'Day Tripper': Lennon only sings every second half of the lines during the verses, also as seen during the promo videos. So 02:42:50 is actually a mix of McCartney and Lennon solo. And 02:43:58 is McCartney throughout, in a very distinctive way.
Yes i think its Paul solo too
@@Nickel1147 No doubt about it. Doesn't get more 1965 McCartney than this. The timbre, the accent, the phrasing, the vibrato. Completely different to Lennon and Harrison. The "one way ticket, yeah" line for example sounds like it comes straight from the 'I'm Down' intro, recorded 4 months prior.
@@strangedaysindeed9 plus Paul could imitate both John and George. The isolated vocals of Paul and John are sublime. Their harmonies are just one of the reasons i'm a fan since 1962.
Such a treat to listen to Peter Jackson. Mark Lewisohn next?
Congratulations on having Peter Jackson get back on your show. He seems so comfortable chatting with you guys and wow did he drop some bombshells. This is going to take a while to process but it’s already blowing up in the Beatles forums.
Thanks again for all your hard work.
Can you recommend a good Beatles forum?
Thank you Thank you Thank you … once again … a great episode and visit with the brilliant Peter J … a great hang out with you all … 👌
Absolutely marvellous stuff from Sir Peter! Gosh!
Peter Jackson has definitely made an enormous contribution to the Beatles musical legacy. He appears to be a loyal and devoted Fan and they are definitely worth it. I feel the same way since I was ten and first saw Hard Days Night. I was stunned by their music and style. I also enjoyed their sense of humor and like their Scouse accents. I knew they were special and fifty plus years later, I’ve been proven right. They were an incredible phenomenon and are unforgettable.
Thanks for the interview and fresh insights.
Thank you, Peter Jackson for everything you do.
Exciting, informative, and so, generous of Peter sharing his. welcoming insight. Thank you to Peter and all involved in such an ethereal and attention commanding. performance. No boundaries for love camaraderie and true. musicians not even. tbe sands of time.
Yay great to see Pete back
Wow, a must-watch for every Beatles fan! Peter brings so much great info. And I loved the visual effects joining the different segments….fancy!
Peter, Allan, Ken and Darren - thanks so much. The Fab’s story is endlessly fascinating to me. Well told and reported on this podcast.
He captured the spirit of the song brilliantly! Looking at the video now I can’t think how anybody else could have improved on it !
Another HOMERUN guys!!! Awesome interview!
Absolutely fascinating chat. Thank you Darren, Alan, Kennith & Peter.
Once again, what a fascinating interview. Somehow Peter's rambling style of relaying information works for my brain. It is much like listening to a piece music. This is delightful. Many thanks.
Superb, well done. Including the extra recordings Peter Jackson
Always a pleasure to hear Peter Jackson talk - despite this difficult accent and talk speed...
So interesting!
Thank god Jackson is Beatles fan!
Great, great episode with Beatles fans. Enjoyable and informative, fun. The best! Thank you Peter, thank you guys #401. Thank you, Beatles!
FYI: According to Mark Lewisohn, the song Jackson mentions that The Beatles are playing in the silent color footage with Pete Best in 1962 is "Dream," which Cliff Richard had recently covered. (The footage is usually dated to Hulme Hall around Valentine's Day. Ironically, Pete himself is not in the camera shot.) It was a swing-era standard which Ringo also recorded on SENTIMENTAL JOURNEY. I have never seen any reference to the second performed song he cites, and since the footage is so brief, it seems doubtful that there really is such an additional one.
if I remember there are 2 or 3 songs in the footage, Adam bound did a really good sync of the footage to the originals of what they were playing
@@tapiocattundra What are the other songs? Mark Lewisohn definitely wrote in TUNE IN that "Dream" was identified by the guitar chords.
@@jackwalker4744 dream is in one section, another part has Paul doing "dance in the street"
@@tapiocattundra 10-4. Excellent research on your part.
who and why was there a "Clare Olssen" frame showing for the whole show. I made the video smaller. Oh well. excellent having Peter talking about everything!! Great Show guys!
Clare Olssen is the CEO of WingNut films. Maybe she was supposed to appear.
Fantastic to hear this conversation today. Congrats (again) to all involved :)))
Absolutely fantastic show! Thank you Allan, Ken and Darren (and Peter, of course)!!!
What a wonderful man Peter is.
So excited just to see this video come up, and can’t wait to dig in. What a treat, and love the epic length already! 👍😊
Brilliant getting Peter on the show ,Darren said you don't get the original mix in the boxsets but you do I've got the original mono mix in the Revolver boxset.
A surprjse. A tutorial on MAL and the new clairity of "Day Tripper" as if we are. a fly on the wall, eavesdropping or the fifth Beatle. Thank you Peter
Thank you Peter and Things We Said Today. This wonderful in depth discussion was a dream come true to all us socks and sandals wearers ✌️❤️
Magnificent show ! Thank you so much!
GREAT show: historic actually. ..you guys asked EVERY question that I wanted to hear...EVERY one! Peter Jackson was so generous and detailed w/ his answers and demonstrations of MAL as applied to "Day Tripper." Special kudos to Darren for asking Peter to walk us through the MAL technology, defining it, and what it actually does (and how it is different, completely, from AI)! I REALLY needed to hear that discussion! Also, the Star Club bombshell acquisition was a huge shock. I had no idea that the initial run of "Get Back" on Blu-Ray was flawed. I'm glad I picked it up later now! The History of that release, and Disney's involvement, was an eye-opener as well.
Thanks guys! This was great I've watched it twice.
It’s so cute how they named the software Mal😢. In a way, it’s just like how Mal Evans was for the Beatles, he does everything for them.
Any chance you could get Emile de la Rey on the show to talk about the nitty gritty technical details about the MAL system and specific things the team did on the Red and Blue album material?
Thanks very very much to the "Things We Said Today" podcast gentlemen for this interview and presentation. Peter Jackson, you and your creative team are the magi of our modern age, your humility and generosity to share this with us is wonderful, thank you very much. I've really enjoyed both appearances on this podcast and the extraordinary restoration and preservation work you have been doing the recorded legacy of the Beatles, which we all adore. I would like to see all your separated tracks in the public domain, to really open it up to the world's talent to remix and visualize this material. Similarly with the complete audio stream and video stream of the Get Back sessions that sit on that laptop. It really is a audio visual archive (that hopefully will one day) be openly online and able to be studied, re-edited in a myriad of ways by a myriad of creative minds. I loved your response that you are providing people with choices of how they listen and view these things. You really have provided a great choice for future generations if these files are looked after and eventually are placed into the public domain.
Also Peter is sooooo trusted when it comes to The Beatles projects, He did such a good job! Bravo man! Please Please Us! And make the 90s sessions into a film :)
I can see a doc on the reunion sessions - a doc within a doc for a doc
I believe there will be more NEW Beatles material thanks to now and then plus the positive reaction to Jacksons video will only feed the interest. Star Club remix will be welcome I wonder if the Mal will source Other Star Club dates (Im aware other dates have also been recorded, Great hearing Peter again a wealth of information for Beatles fans for behind the scenes explanations is a real treat, Thanks for this deep dive,
Star Club, Japan gigs, and Carnival of Light - i think we'll get eventually
Thank you so much for this episode, I enjoyed it a lot. Very interesting to hear Peter Jackson tell stories about his part of the projects - Get back and Let it Be films, Now and Then audio and video, and also the new red and blue compilation albums. It is amazing what he has done, and I loved to have some insight into his dedication - it must have been great for him (as a Beatles fan himself) to work with and expand all this stuff that he loves - even being so instrumental in Now and Then, that it probably wouldn't have happened without him. I also loved to hear that he is already working on the Hamburg tapes and I really hope that he succeeds in making this happen also.
Huge thanks to Peter Jackson for all he has done, and thanks to you guys for the interview, it was great!
Best regards from Lars Henrik Fabrin, Denmark
The Marc that Peter worked with at those Danny Elfman sessions and whom worked with Jeff Lynne was Marc Mann. @1:13:08
Hello Gentleman. I just finished this "chat" with Peter Jackson. I think he and his team are geniuses. After i heard about the MAL tech they developed for the Get Back sessions i immediately thought " Yes! Now this opens the door for them to remix / remaster the ENTIRE Beatles catalog! I was really encouraged when Revolver came out. However, after seeing the Red & Blue records released i am not optimistic that there will be any further deluxe remasters. Since they put a LOT of Rubber Soul on the Red LP i seriously doubt that they will put out a box for Rubber Soul. If they don't do that record, a record that inspired Brian Wilson to make pet Sounds, what hope is there for them to go all the way back to Please Please Me, with The Beatles or A Hard Days Night, not to mention Beatles For Sale? As the discussion progressed and Peter spoke about what he was interested in doing in the future but that it was totally up to Apple or Disney, in the case of additional Get Back footage, I feel like this might be the end of any major releases. the other reasons he mentioned was about the "shareholders" of these companies and wanting to make money for their investments. There has never seemed to be much imagination coming from Apple regarding what the fans are clambering for - EVERYTHING! LOL I can come up with a MILLION new projects and while the original Beatle fans are getting less in number i feel like there is plenty of interest from the next generations. If they aren't going to do separate boxes for every record what about doing a Movie box featuring A Hard Days Night, Help, Magical Mystery Tour & Yellow Sub? You could also include either the extra Get Back Footage or the totally remastered Let It Be movie to top of the set. What about releasing the Shea Stadium show using Mal to get the soundtrack music correct? How about their very first concert in Washington D.C. (which i STILL believe is one of the finest and most historical of their performances i've ever seen)? what about a release for 2024 - a 1964 box with ALL of the Ed Sullivan shows in video and audio, as well as the 5 records that made up the Top 5 on the April 4th 1964 charts along with A Hard Days Night and Beatles for sale? You could include a few posters and buttons that reflect the more of what Beatlemania was about. You cold re-release the I Want To Hold Your Hand as a companion single using the new mixes. More like the latest Who's next release which includes 10 cd's, a book, badges, posters. Anyway, i enjoyed hearing you all talk with Peter. I will be waiting for the next one should you have one. Cheers Tony
Blown away!!!!
The Star Club info seems to be a real scoop.
Thank you for this interview and thank you Peter Jackson on behalf of all Beatles fans! Whatever your thoughts on the music video (I loved it) you have to admit it’s great having someone like PJ whispering in Apples ear about stuff they should do.
I feel like Charlie Brown except instead of a football it’s a blu ray of Let it Be that keeps getting taken away from me, but knowing that it is done and a commentary track has been recorded just makes it all the more frustrating that we don’t have it yet!
You guys asked pretty much everything I would have been able to think of. Glad that he understands that Beatles fans for the most part are the kind of people who like to have physical releases on their shelves (boo Disney)
Hopefully he works with Apple for years to come on more projects (a revamped Anthology maybe?) and it’s so cool to know he is as generous with his time in interviews as he is in his films!
Fabulous interview!! Can you guys tell Peter for me The Gen-X Muse would love to have him on? 😎
Great information, thank you.
It's so frustrating to know that companies like Apple and Disney get to withhold so much from us, especially when people like Peter Jackson are enthusiastic to give it to us.
Did anyone wait until the end of the video for Claire Olssen’s contribution?
Yes listened to it all.
A positive us
fascinating use for MAL and I would think its namesake and his family would be proud.
Peter Jackson owns the original Star Club 1/4" tapes!!!!! 1:36:04
I know! OMG! If he cleans them up!!
Great show!
Great stuff, guys! Peter always amazes me at how generous he is with his answers, and that "Day Tripper" breakdown segment he sent you after the fact is such a perfect example of that.
The most revealing thing here for me is what he said about I Am the Walrus (and THANK YOU so much for asking him about that)... this makes Giles Martin's mix even more puzzling to me, because Peter reveals that they DID in fact successfully separate all the radio elements using MAL. And yet there are still elements present in the 2023 mix that as far as I can tell ARE NOT in the original, particularly that loud, intrusive symphonic thing that starts around 4 minutes 7 seconds.
I am even more confused now... where did Giles get that from, and why did he put it in the mix, when he clearly didn't even need it? I can't fathom he would just pull it out of a hat, which makes me think it must be from another alternate mono mix with different radio elements, but Peter seems to indicate they only did the MAL treatment on the one mix. Of course I'm all for hearing those alternate elements if they exist, but that should have been saved for the MMT box set... not thrown in this collection for a whole new generation of listeners who may have never heard the song before. It's tantamount to repainting a Picasso.
I'm assuming at some point Giles will explain himself on this one, until then I remain completely flummoxed.
Thank you, Peter! The video hits every single emotion and perfectly demonstrates The Beatles now, and then, and forever. Always together.
Oh please remix Free as a Bird and Real Love using MAL and the original John Lennon tapes. I have been wanting that ever since I heard Now and Then.
The Two songs in the silent footage in leather jackets supplied by Pete Best Mark Lewisohn thinks the first segment, George is seen singing, thought to be 'Dream', the lead song on what was then the latest EP by Cliff Richard and the Shadows.
The second segment, Paul is singing Gene Vincent's 'Dance In The Street' which the Beatles amended to 'Twist In The Street' to appeal to the latest dance craze.
I love this. Thank you. Interesting that Peter’s non-musician status may have influenced how things were separated. For example, there are clearly two guitars on track two of Day Tripper: John on rhythm, and George on the riff. Yet Peter talks about it as a single guitar track. Is this why it isn’t separated? I found it a mystery as to why some songs on Red have separated guitar tracks, and others don’t. This seems to explain it: if Peter and his staff are hearing them as one guitar part and not two, maybe that’s why the different parts are mixed as one on some tracks on Red.
Actually, it’s the same for Revolution: on Love Giles separated the main guitars, but on Blue they’re together. My guess is that Giles decided to work only with Peter’s stems, rather than the original multitrack parts.
Concur. Also, trying to separate out a block vocal that might have been doubled must be a bit of a nightmare. I feel I'd want to sit next to whoever and try and help out like most of us!
It’s a good theory, but the problem is that (as I understand it) the separations are not done by Peter, his staff or other humans, but by the MAL program, based on the amount of material (as Peter explained) fed into it. So in theory, it has been “taught” John’s guitar sound and George’s - but if they’re both playing their Epiphone Casinos, it might conceivably have been confused.
3:17:20 - Darren, they have been putting the original mixes the band were behind (the original mono mixes) in all the boxsets, except for "Abbey Road" in 2019 and "Let It Be" in 2021..
There was a mono mix done of Abbey Road, but this was only released in a few countries, and not the UK and USA, and as you say, not in the box set. No mono mix of Let It Be was done.
In the separated track of day tripper, the verses are Paul singing the first line and the second part is John
Kept wondering who is Ethel? But then realised Peter is saying Apple :)
Perhaps Peter Jackson could do something extra for The Beatles At Shea Stadium. This is certainly due a Blu-ray release.
if it's still not held up in litigation.
What’s the point? You wouldn’t be able to hear them playing anyway
All around fantastic! I am hoping that before any live box set gets released that Rubber Soul gets done first. I wonder what peter's thoughts would be about the Yellow Submarine Songbook release from 1999. I remember hearing Eleanor Rigby & Nowhere Man and they just blew my mind, they sounded miles better than anything else before them. Great show!!! I really wish that Universal/Disney had nothing to do with the Beatles. We would have had a great Get Back DVD set with bonus tracks. My only concern with the Red/Blue albums is that I feel there was absolutely no reason to make The colored vinyl sets so limited that now people have to pay double on Discogs or Ebay, it is just a shame. They should have made enough for everybody; and, as a box set there was nothing really box set about them. No book, no promo poster....aside from the mixing it's a huge let down calling it a box set. Respectfully I refuse to bend down to Discogs or Ebay and but the colored vinyl set or any other version of it.
Wonderful stuff. Very interesting to hear Peter’s separations of Day Tripper. I’m sure he (and Mal?) are a bit mislead on who is who though. The words ”Got a good reason” are 100 % certain sung by Paul. Maybe on the same mic as John? Also Paul on track B: ”for taking the easy way out, Day Tripper one way ticket, yeah”.
For goodness' sake, this video is 3.5 hours long. Could somebody *PLEASE* make a breakdown of the topics with timestamps?
Peter Jackson; The 7th Beatle and THEEE most important associate in The Beatles' world since George Martin. We are in good hands for the next couple of decades.
It's incredible to me that these people at Apple HQ did not know exactly what footage they had of the 1990s get-to-gether. What on earth was Neil Aspinall doing for all these years that he couldn't organise labelling up some boxes of film properly?
Wish you would have pressed Peter Jackson and asked him specifically who in Apple is delaying the extended cut of GET Back. Jackson is very forthright and making it publicly known is important in putting pressure and possibly making the release a reality.
He already told is in episode 355 - and again in this one -- as I understand it, it's not really Apple, it's Disney, who have the rights to both the streaming version and the DVD/Blu-ray, and therefore can dictate whether there's an extended cut. From their point of view, they've already compromised by allowing it to run 8 hours rather than the 2 hours they had contracted, and putting out a DVD and Blu-ray (with no extras) despite not wanting to put it out in a physical format at all. Personally, I think they're insane, and I've said so a number of times on the show since 2021, but if they won't listen to Peter, they're definitely not going to listen to us.
@@allankozinn192 That is what I meant, specifically who in [Disney] is preventing the Blu-Ray release of a Get Back Expended edition, complete with extra footage? Peter Jackson appeared on a Financial podcast some time ago and was urging fans to voice their support for a Director's cut of Get Back. My fear, judging from Jackson's comments, is that it won't be made available until a 10-year anniversary, which is an awful long wait. Possibly due to distribution rights issues, which I would have liked to have known the particulars about.
@@UnderTheCovers1 Yeah, I don't think we're ever going to get a specific name. If you listen to what Peter said, Disney's corporate policy at this point is to not release physical media So that must go right up to Bob Iger, or whoever was in charge at the time those decisions were made.
@@allankozinn192It’s ironic that Disney is pushing back the extended cut due to the demand supposedly not being there, when the audience is the exact type that wants an extended cut. Just goes to show that all Disney cares about is money. The greed is insane. They’re literally a multi-billion dollar company.
@@nahte- It's craziness even from the perspective of only caring about the money. People could have had the streaming version free -- it was on dozens of websites, in some cases in 2160 quality, within days -- but were willing to buy the DVD or Blu-ray because they want a physical product, which Disney was initially against releasing at all, with or without extras. They may claim that the demand isn't there (on who-knows-what basis), but it's really about control. They seem to feel that so long as a physical product isn't available, they have greater control of the content. But they're deluding themselves.
It’s ironic that Disney is pushing back the extended cut due to the demand supposedly not being there, when the audience is the exact type that wants an extended cut. Just goes to show that all Disney cares about is money. The greed is insane. They’re literally a multi-billion dollar company.
2:40:28 - George? Sound more like John to me.
Was George trying to remember Norwegian Wood in the intro while tuning ? Or was i hearing things ... I know he plays a bit at Pauls studio outside in the short film. :)
I almost hear "In My Life" than NW - perhaps that's just me.
I must bave somehow llen off tbe planet in 1996 because I was unaware of "Freeas a Bird" and" Real Love" and I am sure tbe rest of tbe universe was aware.
Regarding "Benign A.I.",
The whole conversation about needing the lowest generation cassette, and the 1/4" tape master... the benign thing we want tech to be able to do IS the dangerous thing.
Have we forgotten The Conversation (1971)?,
And the movie cliche since of using EQ (phase cancellation, sending the signal back onto itself to sum out harmonic ranges) and gain (extra stage of power, therefore dynamics) to "isolate things". The exact thing we're giddy about is the thing we don't want Spotify (who's business is user data) to go to lossless or h ires to be able to do. Spying!
I wanted basically the "smart"phone but I've had to avoid it because they're security vulnerabilities that can't be protected. I've been a long arguer for Hi Res digital audio, but I hate that it probably won't become user friendly until it's first used to spy on people. The file size issue might be what saves it from being useful for spying. Bluetooth's LDAC might be as dangerously close as we get, but Spleeter and M.A.L.. are not benign, certainly not if M.A.L. can tell the Beatles voices apart. The problem with Spleeter is/was the sound of digital squares where dynamics and harmonic resonance should be, and Get Back and then Revolver 2020 were the development on this tech, so... but, fun is never benign. Certainly developing art is never benign.
Regarding the myth that the third 1995 song was a secret, that is not the case. I first read about it in ICE magazine on release of the third Anthology. Ringo was quoted saying there was a third song that didn't work out for technical reasons. And I found this from the Dec 1995 page of Sound On Sound:
Quote: The three Beatles began work in February on a third unfinished Lennon demo. Contrary to press speculation, this song was not 'Grow Old With Me' but one which Lynne and Emerick recall being titled either 'Now And Then' or 'Miss You' - a track which Emerick expects the remaining Beatles to complete in the not too distant future. He says: "We did start work on it, but it was obviously unfinished from a writing point of view, so we thought we'd work on 'Real Love' which had a complete set of words. It'll need to be completed as a song before everybody decides what to do with it, and," he adds with a grin, "it's not hard to imagine who would finish writing it."
I don’t recall it ever being a myth that the third song was a secret, or that it was anything other than Now and Then. It was widely reported at the time - as you point out yourself, citing ICE (which I used to write for). Nor was there ever any mystery why they gave up on it, since John’s demo was available on the bootleg market. A number of people even tried to pass off fakes that they claimed were the Threetles’ working version. So I’m not sure why you say there was a myth that it was a mystery. However, there were four songs on the cassette Yoko gave them, and the fourth was Grow Old With Me, which they all felt was too mawkish.
Yes, correct, we all knew about Now and Then at the time of the Anthologies. It was never a secret. Grow Old With Me had already had a commercial release on Milk and Honey, which I suspect was one reason they left it alone. There are rumours of a new McCartney - Harrison song called All For Love being started...
Yes, Grow Old With Me already had a commercial release - but Real Love did as well. It was on the soundtrack album of the 1988 film Imagine: John Lennon.
@@allankozinn192 I appreciate the reply. I called it a myth because I keep hearing on various Beatle podcasts that the public didn't know about the third song in 1995. Even Peter Jackson here called it a "secret" that wasn't revealed until someone with a connection told him about it, and I don't recall one of you guys correcting that. Maybe I missed something --- it was a long interview, and my attention was distracted at times. Sorry if my wording was strong, but I just wanted to get the record out there that there was public knowledge of the attempt at the time Anthology 3 was released. Anyway, I love your show, and grateful that Peter Jackson gave you so much more of his time.
@@allankozinn192 By the way... You wrote for ICE?! I glossed over that part of your reply on first read. Just want to say that was one of my favorite music mags. That's how much of a nerd I was. I sat with every new issue and pored over it the day it appeared in the mail. Happy to know your connection!
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Awesome 😊. A gift for all of us
Clean up led zeppelin bootlegs from 69 to 72. That would be a great achievement
Clive sounds a bit like Howard Wolowitz in the TV show The Big Bang Theory. This isn't a criticism just observing a similarity.
Clare?
Intro song is nice what’s it called?
I guess it’s called Things We Said Today Theme. It was written and recorded for us by Michael Lynch.
He made a mess misidentifying their voices. "Got a good reason" line is Paul singing, not John.
Yes. Paul is doubled on “got a good reason”, then Paul and John are doubled on “for taking the easy way out”. Then it’s JPG doubled on “day tripper, one way ticket yeah”. It’s how they did most of the Rubber Soul harmonies, which is why RS is such a vocally rich album.
I do wish Peter wouldn't rush his speech so much.
Has Peter had a mild stroke? He seems very mumbly and sloppy in his speech and annunciation - having heard him in innumerable interviews, he doesn't seem 100% here at all.
53:30 - has Allan died or fallen asleep? 😛🤣😂
oingo boingo
Peter Jackson's Get Back is a wonderful contribution to the Beatles universe, and to the history of our culture in general. One of the best Beatles' products there's ever been, and perhaps the greatest by a third party. However, the video for Now and Then is a mixed experience. Some excellent footage, but too much dated looking cutting and pasting, with arms flailing around like they're attached to puppets. in the Hello Goodbye sections,, George in particular looks two-dimensional in his Pepper costume. Hopefully, Peter will have another look at the video, and replace the unnecessary and jarring goofing around (John on the podium looks clearly superimposed and silly with "his" arms waving about) and fix the wonkiest of the 1967 inserts. Instead of ignoring innovations in filmmaking, Peter could have optimised footage without resorting to completely fake Beatles created via CGI.
He’s done great work so far. He has his work cutout for him because the Starclub shows feature Tony Sheridan and the Beatles as his backup singers. Maybe he can separate the Beatles voices because they are buried in the recording. It’s just not very good.
He’s done a great job on the new video for Now and Zen. I don’t like the song but I love the video. Using the alternate footage from the Penny Lane video which was never released officially. That’s an amusing video with them dancing and goofing around.
Thanks! 😊
No. The Star Club tapes are completely separate from the Tony Sheridan material.
Perhaps you are confused that for two songs, there are Star Club staff who get to come up on stage and sing a bit (if I recall correctly, it’s Horst Fascher a bouncer/manager at the Star Club, singing on Hallelujah, I Love Her So, and his brother/cousin Freddie, on Be Bop A Lu La, credited as “Herr Obber” (Mr. Waiter) by the Beatle that calls him to the stage).
Sheridan also performed in Hamburg at the time, and the Beatles backed him on some studio recordings (My Bonnie being the most well known) as well as other live performances at the Top Ten Club, but the Star Club tapes are the Beatles, not Sheridan.
That’s not correct. Its the Beatles