How the war may end: 4 scenarios for the future of Ukraine
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2023
- The Annual Meeting of Yalta European Strategy (YES) - “The Future Is Being Decided in Ukraine” - was held on September 8-9, 2023 in Kyiv.
Over 500 leading politicians, diplomats, businessmen, civil activists and experts from more than 20 countries took part in the conference organized by YES in partnership with the Victor Pinchuk Foundation.
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Ukrainian people are so marvelous, so resilient 🙌🏼👍🏼👏🏼🙏🏼
The first things that must be built after the war is first class long-term treatment and support centres, and accessible living accommodation for injured veterans.
There will be so many there should be also set up a body through which their voices are heard on state matters.
They must be visible in positions everywhere so that the physically and mentally injured veterans do not feel or ever become forgotten or sidelined.
All rebuilding of infrastructure must be disabled accessible.
Ukraine is wrecked, and on the way to being finished. At least you recognize the amputee issue. Most here are in lalaland...
@@gmw3083 Noone is is lala land... just recognising the scale of crimes committed by Russia on the people of Ukraine.
Russia can't take care of it's own country, doesn't have a self identity, so is insanely trying to rob a neighbours one to make themselves feel important.. Very sad such low self esteem in a nation. really tragic for young Russians as well as Ukrainians.. at least Ukrainians know who they and are proud of their national identity.. Russia can't live with itself or on it's own and obviously have no respect for themselves or their own country.
@@gmw3083Russia is in an unwinnable quagmire.
A new term ought to be implemented when addressing regimes such as Putin's :Psychopathocracy.
Ukrainian people are positive, smart people. The sunflowers blooming 💛 the grains growing healthy. Bless you Ukraine 🙏
And cities in ruins, mass migration across Europe, and men and women dying in huge numbers.....
@@andyabuteo6084Confessing your crimes.
Incredibly inspirational event
moderator gobbled up the show. did not hear real contents of the report.
Well, I am feeling very unhappy that first was said that the help for Ukraine would be as long as it would be needed and now UN is “kind of backing out “ so sad 😞
1. The BBC presenter never let his guests finish.
2. It felt like the modrator was speaking himself for around 30% of the broadcast time.
3. I also felt the British imperial arrogance (a Brit in particular should hold back when predicting when Ukraine will join the EU/NATO).
Conclusion: The topic was actually important, but please for the next time, led people finish their answers, thank you.
I just could not agree with you more. He is cut from a particular cloth of elite school /university male BBC journalists, born in the 1960s, who have NEVER experienced physical or financial hardship. I’ve met many of them and their opinion of themselves is extraordinary. And their patronizing views of others are staggering.
@@ianasir277 Thank you for your answer. I think it has also a lot to do with his caracter.
The whole point of moderator is NOT to agree with everyone ! BUT to ACTIVATE / PROVOKE the thought process in heads of people of the panel , audience , viewers etc.
To activate the thought process that might have been dormant !
The discussion becomes more interesting that way and also , all involved in the discussion AMAZINGLY ENOUGH , MIGHT learn more about themselves as well !🙏
I believe it is an incredible skill to be a moderator and
Steven Sucker is INCREDIBLE in it ! 🙏🙌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Just follow his MANY HARD TALKS and you will see the sophistication of his skills 🙏
@@musicfortheyes Thank you for your nuanced answer. Basically I agree with you. Nevertheless, he should take into account that the topic of "Ukraine" does not deal with any domestic political issue for the British, but with a people in the fight for survival. The fact that he doesn't like to distinguish between them doesn't speak for him in my opinion. This is not about some political scandal in the Labor Party, but about whether a country will be or not.
Stephen realises they are deluded 🤣😁😁
informative interviews. It would be nice to have text transcripts!!!
Excellent to watch
Question regarding EU support [and I ask this as a French citizen]: Why is French military support for Ukraine less than $600 million when British support amounts to several billion dollars ?
Incidentally I regard Steven S. as flippant and very possibly under the influence.
The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention criticized Sackur for suggesting genocide as one of two "realistic options" for the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh during a HARDtalk interview with Ruben Vardanyan. Sackur had suggested the Armenians of the Republic of Artsakh either accept "a political deal or leave" due to the 2022-2023 blockade of the Republic of Artsakh. According to Lemkin Institute, Sackur had blamed the victims for the blockade: "Artsakh is under blockade not because of the genocidal designs of Azerbaijan, but because of some inexplicable stubbornness on the part of Armenians in Artsakh or their leaders - or both, as he seems to believe". The Lemkin Institute further criticized Sackur for trying to suggest the word Artsakh (the historical Armenian name for Nagorno-Karabakh) was illegitimate and for ignoring the rights of self-determination
How many references did Sackur make about getting a drink, of getting to the bar? I’m sorry, but he is a dick, utterly without empathy.
The fucking deadline he keeps referring to is about giving time for people to get home before the curfew. He seems oblivious to this.
Steven S is a total f wit .. he is full of generalisations. A former English teacher ..??? He has no subject matter expertise.. none
This moderator wrongly mistake himself as a pannel member. Really disappointed on his constant comments. I understand that the conference was the last one in a long day... but several of his comments are elitist and divisive. The subject was very important to me, but it was extremely diluted. Too much ego, too little profesionality
The moderator was trying to bring people back into reality.
Giving thought to what a peace treaty to end the Ukraine War might entail, my short list of agreements is led with Nuclear Disarmament between USA and Russia mainly aiming to reduce ICBM and short range nuclear missiles by half (from 12,000 to 6,000) in 5 to 10 years with the other nuclear powers invited to join in. This stipulation alone would give nations worldwide an incentive to participate in rebuilding Ukraine. Secondarily, we ask the question, What do Russian oligarchs want? If the answer is primarily commercial access to world markets for grain export, that commercial access (not control over Ukrainian ports) can be granted with suitable port fees. These two peace treaty stipulations I suppose lack diplomatic machinations, but perhaps they are a good starting point on which to develop a more complete peace agreement.
Ukraine WILL lead & teach Europe to prosper PEACEFULLY & in partnership with the whole continent. It will hopefully teach & lead the world in this too. #SlavaUkraini 🇺🇦🫶🫡
Teach the world about corruption....more like it...😅
@@andyabuteo6084 The entire civilized world knows that no other country comes even close to the world champion of corruption namely russia!
Ukraine is defending Europe, get your facts straight, if Ukraine falls so does Europe.
Ukraine WILL surrender and white supremacy will be defeated.
@ossiedunstan4419 really? You have been belittling the Russian army as a hopeless army all along??? Now You are promoting another hopeless narrative of Russia conquering the entire Europe!!! Stick to one BS
...2 BS is pure crap. 😆
Содержательные интервью, было бы хорошо иметь текстовые расшифровки!!!
5 kg of weapons for 20 tons of Wheat? Where are you going Ukraine?
This moderator should be doing Shakespeare, rich voice!
🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
Businessmen from all over the world who invest the money they make from selling grain in the EU (destroying European farmers) instead of taking it to where it is needed in Asia and Africa.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE INSPIRING EVENT !🙏🙏♥️
Thank you Steven Sucker - a great pro ! and Inspiring moderator ! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Love following his incredible work in HARD TALK ! 🙏👏🏻👏🏻
THANK YOU ALL FOR BELIEVING IN UKRAINE AND ITS PEOPLE !!!🙏
THANK YOU THE PANEL !
AND THE OPTIMISTS IN THE AUDIENCE ! 🙏
It was inspiring to see this event !
Glory to Ukraine ! 💙💛
Thank you to the fighters who defend the country at the very moment ! 🙏🙏💙💛💙💛♥️
The unfortunate truth is that the US which controls NATO does not want a quick resolution to this war but rather a prolonged war to in effect cripple Russia's economy and it's petroleum industry which would help the US economy enormously. Sorry to be so pessimistic. I support Ukraine 100% but fear that NATO lacks the will to do everything in it's power to end this ASAP.
I think that is true. The US want a managed decline of Russia without collapse - which they're scared of - plus the economic advantages it brings. Is it the correct strategy overall? It's hard to say for us I think
As long as it takes.
Rússia was always very poor. A few US companies are larger than Rússia. There is no economy in russia, it is very poor.
Ukraine will need 30 years of Financial support from the EU and will never be able to recover.
Europe survived WWII and started b(l)ooming. Why wouldn't Ukraine survive this? The country is more cohesive than ever.
Plenty of wishful thinking and speculations in this Ukrainian echo chamber, while reason, objectivity and reality is in short supply. A war room assembled to find an elusive light at the end of the tunnel...
Reality is in short supply? Orc philosophy. 😂😂😂
This waa a fascinating forum. Sadly, though, I still think that the future well-being of Ukraine is going to depend on whether or not sanity returns to the Russian side. As of now there is little evidence that it will as long as Putin is in power.. My heart goes out to the Ukrainians for what they have suffered as the result of Putin's invasion. I hope that somehow sanity does come to the situation so that Ukraine can be restored, but I feel it will only happen when sanity appears inside Russia.
Ukraine will never be able to recover Crimea or the Donbas so they will struggle economical for the next 30 years.
When going dragging these people and putting them on front line .
What about Yemen, Libya and Iraq!
What about Ukraine!!
what about Korea, Vietnam, Syria Afghanistan and now the Middle East again! Watch the Albion and Uncle Sam!
These guys look frustrated...😅
A lot of nice talking, at the end all of the folks having a drink for free ,thats about it… an hour of my life wasted for absolutely nothing 😖😵💫
Do you need a drink?
Is he in the Russian army? 🍸
15:09 "Defense industry is the new agriculture." In other words, beating plowshares into swords is the future of Ukraine. Ukraines future is its end...
That's a fairly stupid remark, though. Was exporting weaponry the end of russia? Or the end of Sweden? He is obviously not talking about dismantling the agricultural sector of Ukraine, he is talking about the future economic possibilities coming from investments, that are currently being done only by necessity, and that they could surpass the importance of agricultural products in monetary value for the country. Diversification of exports is both economically sound and healthy.
@@karsten11553 Russia has spies all over Ukraine. Whether they're professionals or volunteers who would rather not see Ukraine completely dustified. The kremlin has intel on almost everything important that goes on in Ukraine. Anything is a potential target. Ukraine will not be allowed to have a significant defense industry. Simple as that....
Put Ukraine into NATO now...war or no war. Gives you many more options to deal with Russia
Yes cant wait to see the nukes fly
you must be yoking!
money money money
Russians don't have.money. They have rubles
Thats way NATO fear to attack Russia lets Ukranian fighth to the last Ukranian
Everytime you say your horrible things, support for Ukraine only grows.
Usa is still occupying one third of Syria 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
No
@@cyberiankorninger1025 Yep and whole EU:-)
@@yourneighbour2675 But its not really the USA then since they are ruled by lizard peoples?
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"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - Napoleon Bonaparte
USA today 30/09/23 1:00 Pst. confirm US not sending any more $$$ to Ukraine aka no more tank sent thanks to Canada.
Who will win: Ukraine offer fight down to the last Ukrainian vs Russia Unconditional Surrender. Remember Berlin 1945.
Russian Intel on display. Speaker McCarthy pledged to pass the aid bill in exchange for border reform.
its finish
Let's give it three more days.'..
The Fifth Scenario: These Bandera-Nazi Ukrainians master understandable American English 😂
Can I join your telegram?
Ukraine will survive and prosper. Russia will not 😢