a royal f you to everyone today ;) also if you wanna support, check out the podcast, I cover this a little more on todays afternoon rush - Listen to twice daily pop culture episodes of The Rush Hour podcast with Dave Neal here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rush-hour-with-dave-neal/id1651903715
Amazing news!!! It is so exciting that this is the second update! I know it isn’t saying much, but it is something!!! They are still investigating!! Let’s get justice for these victims!! Thank you for everything you do, Dave 🩷 have a great weekend away!
The Maricopa County Attorney’s Office needs to give Laura real consequences otherwise it’ll send the message that “under oath” means absolutely nothing and that it’s ok for someone to waste government resources for their own sick twisted reasons like revenge against people who don’t want to date you, financial extortion, compulsive victimization, etc. I’d also like to see Rachel Mitchell do something to help Mike and Greg end the orders of protection against them AND do something to stop Laura from being able to initiate any future frivolous legal action.
She found Clayton for her million dollar real estate purchase on LinkedIn. She told him that no one was getting back to her from the real estate companies. In my opinion, she was deceiving him from the beginning and that she would make him date her or else.
@ericamurphy to be clear you are referring to predatory Laura Owens when you say “she is really taking away resources from people who need them” NOT Rachel Mitchell for investigating all of Laura Owen’s absolutely disgusting abusive deceitful criminal low life repeat (at least 10 years that we’ve found evidence for so far) behavior.
I would think that Rachel Mitchell has grounds to make a bar complaint about Gingras. This seems like an ethical violation possibly worse than what he said about the judge
I’m on vacation and miss listening to Dave and follow on Patreon. Dingus is so dumb, it’s astonishing to watch. I’m in Spain and I’m ok, not in the area of the flooding 🙏🏻 Back on the 10th. See ya 😎
FYI - the horse show he referred to that Laura “won” is laughable. I’ve been in the equestrian community for many years (probably before she was able to say the word horse..) Anyway, the truth is this - the level that she rides at is almost irrelevant. It’s more or less a hobby that anyone could take part in at that level. Second, no one knows or cares about her even though there has been some gossip about her crazy behavior.
Ooh please do say more. I have so many questions…. What’s the gossip going around? And so would a win at her level be almost equivalent to winning a pie eating contest? Like yeah you won but I wouldn’t brag about it online to thousands of people? Genuine question😂
My daughter rode competitively for seven years and was appalled at Laura’s form. She’s nothing more then a rich girl spending Daddy’s money pretending to be something she’s clearly not.
Praying that Maricopa County concludes that they have the resources and interest in charging this person. This is the second similar high profile case in the county in a relatively short time. Bearing false witness is as real a problem in the 21st century as it was thousands of years ago.
21:06 VERY WELL SAID DAVE 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼, TY 🫶. People need to only advocate for good & justice without Telling People what they can/cant do, Being Nasty or Bullying others. It’s disgusting! No one is allowed to try and control everyone and everything related to this case.
Laura's lawyer is crazy to throw dirt at the district attorney. It actually demonstrates that he has issues with threatening people. It's interesting that he is defending a client with similar issues.
She may have some kind of mental illness. But, she knows what she's doing is wrong. She doesn't need people to step in and take control of her and her life. She needs to take accountability and take responsibility for her actions. Jail. She needs Jail, not to be infantilized. And, while in jail she needs to be an adult and figure out why she acted that way and take action to get better. Or, she can be like every other repeat criminal and waste her time behind bars blaming everyone else for her plight.
I feel there is something at stake for Gingras if he loses. His threats are threats driven by desperation. Not sure what it is. But whatever it is, it's big.
I think the people who care about Maricopa County, RM position and the article referenced aren’t the majority of the people following the LO case who have interest in this update. These are mostly people all over the US & other parts of the world, not the local community. I can only guess the majority of people in Maricopa County still have no idea who LO’s is, given this, If I genuinely needed distraction, a statement about LO wouldn’t be it.
jabroni 😂 love it. I had to rewatch of course because the patreon chat is so socialable and fun haha Dingus is too scared to even tag her! 😱 #alwayslove
It would be interesting to hear what the excuse would be if they don’t charge her as opposed to the other woman that was just charged for doing almost the same thing. Why would she not be charged when she’s clearly breaking the law just like the other woman 🤔
Standing up against women and men who abuse the system and manipulate it to get their own way is a necessity. I hope she is brought up on charges, a stand needs to be taken. Mentally ill or not, she’s an adult and is being enabled by others who should have got her care if she needs it!
I think what Juarez was saying, not that it is what actually happened - but that Laura could have legally made her way out of it by making the claims she described. The fact that she KEEPS doubling down is what makes it necessary even for her to be prosecuted as CLEARLY she will continue her behaviors if action is not taken to stop her. WOW this lawyer is SO detrimental to his client! I have got to think that these lawyers like this are just as ill as their clients - this is a new and scary phenomenon of lawyer behaviors on Social Media and the Hale’s case has parallels to this. Arguing cases they are involved in through the media should be banned/illegal - it all started actually it seems with Depp V Heard where it was argued that the case was tried in the media and this seems to have given lawyers bad ideas…
I don't think it's a mental health issue with LO, it seems much more likely to be mainly fuelled by a personality disorder - sadly these are reportedly more resistant to treatment, and the person has to recognise that the personality disorder is causing them problems and so be highly motivated to try and change. Prison probably is the only thing which might frighten her into changing her behaviour, even so, she would find some other outlet for her controlling behaviour.
Yup. The ONLY way she has gotten away with her severe personality disorders is due to her enabling parents and sister. I want their assets exposed because they are her enablers.
For starters I AM NOT GREG! I feel that needs to be said knowing how certain people respond to criticism. I don’t have X or Reddit, however, I follow all the RUclips channels that covers the stories involving LO. I am beyond grateful & sincerely thankful that Rachel Mitchell is investigating all of Laura Owen’s absolutely disgusting abusive deceitful criminal low life repeat (at least 10 years that we’ve found evidence for so far) behavior. It would be icing on the proverbial cake 🍰 if the male equivalent of LO aka David Gingras somehow faces consequences too. I’m not suggesting he’s done anything illegal technically, but his behavior has been beyond “criminal” in a social sense. Seeing what those 2 imbeciles have done & said on the regular hurts my brain due to how much obsessive bad behavior is shared between their decision making skills! It’s truly astonishing! I’ve never watched a single episode of the bachelor franchise empire of shows so I’m not here because being “star struck” by Clayton’s celebrity status. I’m a twin loss momma who would’ve celebrated my girls 19th birthday this year , but instead I mourn them daily. Yes, all these years later I still yearn for them every single day! It’s not something I can talk about without tears. I lost them 1 month apart & I absolutely without a doubt know the exact date each of them passed away. This is my reason for following this story so intensely. You can’t convince me that Laura Owens was ever pregnant when she’s not once spoke about her supposed children in a loving caring manner or shed a single tear over her “losses”. She has faked ugly cried plenty, however that was attention seeking behavior because her deceitful scams were being discovered at a rapid pace so she needed to put on a show hoping to gain supporters in her ploy to get multiple people (especially certain men some having never met her) cancelled so nobody would listen to all the years of lies Laura Owens has told. News Flash - it didn’t work! Laura simply dug the hole deeper. My point is that there are so many of us following this story wanting justice for any & all victims of Laura. I want her to be held accountable to for weaponizing different hot button groups (women’s rights, DV, SA, Autism, twin loss, Black Lives Matter, & many more) to further her agenda to punish anyone who stands up to her. I am a Speech Language Pathologist. I can’t even put in words the deep frustration I felt when seeing her article blaming Autism for all her bad behavior 🤬 ABSOLUTELY NOT! Many of the amazing people I’ve treated over the years fell on the spectrum & they are some of the best people you’ll ever meet. Not a rotten bone in their bodies. Of course, they struggle with some of the same issues we all do because they just like us with a brain that works against them at times. Not once have I seen any of my patients come even close to the acting the way Laura does. If she truly has Autism, I hope she gets into therapy immediately to help better manage her life. That being said Autism simply had nothing to do with her decade long scams/lies. She needs help in so many ways, but Gingras is not it.
Praying praying she’s charged soon. She should never be able to hide, and abuse men in the future. Laura owner is a fraud, and a disgusting human. Let’s make sure her deceptive behavior never fades away, otherwise she will do it too another man. Hopefully karma is filling her, and the universe never lets her have children, otherwise there will be more terrible humans in the world coming from a women like this.
Oh Gosh having to suck snot! My daughter was sick when very little and she screamed when I did that as the Dr. directed. I was SO scared a neighbor would call the police and say I was killing her. (I also kind of felt as though I was harming her - because she was so upset.) she also had a nebulizer that she convinced me was harming her and when I told the Dr. how upset she was and screaming, I had to hold her on it, he said, “Good, that really means she is sucking the air in while doing that.” Big help he was with my parental trauma feeling as though I was harming her with her reaction to these treatments!
Dave making a killing on this?? Talk about false accusation while projecting. This lawyer knows full well this is his meal tix. It seems he’s hoping to retire on this because getting hired to take advantage of someone’s illness again, will be less likely after the negative exposure he is receiving.
It always bugged me that her Aug 1, 2023 parenting plan asserted ALL Christmases should be with her and ALL New Years with CE (so he couldn’t date.) But then later she asserts Judaism? You know she just made the parenting holidays for the fake twins just to trigger a Missouri Christian to communicate and say “hey why can’t I get alternate Christmases?”
Thanks Dave. I take back my snarkiness. I was frustrated with the bullies who were claiming to be the ones bullied. You shouldn’t have been tagged in the thread. Hay tried to untag you. I just can’t watch a friend in tears for what was going on with Haybales
100%, I was going to address this in my comment then saw yours. People coming to me as a neutral party to express upset, frustration & sadness, with no way to make it stop is unacceptable. I have their backs and I’m glad they feel I’m a safe place & will always advocate for what is right! We band together to support good people but we shouldn’t have to. Hope this makes a difference. ❤❤
Does the baby have allergies or is he sick from being taken out in public during RSV season? Even when YOU go out you are supposed to take shoes off at the door and hop in the shower. Hope he feels better soon.
Wanna listen Dave, but your ignorant political takes are too hard to handle lol you are unfortunately very uneducated but talk like some great savant… please stop.
a royal f you to everyone today ;) also if you wanna support, check out the podcast, I cover this a little more on todays afternoon rush - Listen to twice daily pop culture episodes of The Rush Hour podcast with Dave Neal here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rush-hour-with-dave-neal/id1651903715
You hit the perfect tone, regarding the infighting. It’s another example of how good of a guy you are. Thank-you for being “you”. It’s pretty awesome.
Justice for these victims! Thanks to everyone in the community doing the work! Especially Dave!
Amazing news!!! It is so exciting that this is the second update! I know it isn’t saying much, but it is something!!! They are still investigating!! Let’s get justice for these victims!! Thank you for everything you do, Dave 🩷 have a great weekend away!
I notice he didn't tag Rachel....
The Maricopa County Attorney’s Office needs to give Laura real consequences otherwise it’ll send the message that “under oath” means absolutely nothing and that it’s ok for someone to waste government resources for their own sick twisted reasons like revenge against people who don’t want to date you, financial extortion, compulsive victimization, etc. I’d also like to see Rachel Mitchell do something to help Mike and Greg end the orders of protection against them AND do something to stop Laura from being able to initiate any future frivolous legal action.
Yes!
She found Clayton for her million dollar real estate purchase on LinkedIn. She told him that no one was getting back to her from the real estate companies. In my opinion, she was deceiving him from the beginning and that she would make him date her or else.
It’s brutal… she is really taking away resources from people who need them!
@ericamurphy to be clear you are referring to predatory Laura Owens when you say “she is really taking away resources from people who need them” NOT Rachel Mitchell for investigating all of Laura Owen’s absolutely disgusting abusive deceitful criminal low life repeat (at least 10 years that we’ve found evidence for so far) behavior.
I would think that Rachel Mitchell has grounds to make a bar complaint about Gingras. This seems like an ethical violation possibly worse than what he said about the judge
Maricopa County, THROW HER IN JAIL!
I’m on vacation and miss listening to Dave and follow on Patreon. Dingus is so dumb, it’s astonishing to watch. I’m in Spain and I’m ok, not in the area of the flooding 🙏🏻 Back on the 10th. See ya 😎
0:34 I can't believe it has been 6 months since you got a new employer (boss baby)
Great video, Dave! The way you say things is so on point and positive without being complacent. 👍🙏
Dave, you're so funny. TY for the updates. Auggie is so cute in his halloween outfit. How sweet of Mimi to send this!
FYI - the horse show he referred to that Laura “won” is laughable. I’ve been in the equestrian community for many years (probably before she was able to say the word horse..) Anyway, the truth is this - the level that she rides at is almost irrelevant. It’s more or less a hobby that anyone could take part in at that level. Second, no one knows or cares about her even though there has been some gossip about her crazy behavior.
Ooh please do say more. I have so many questions…. What’s the gossip going around? And so would a win at her level be almost equivalent to winning a pie eating contest? Like yeah you won but I wouldn’t brag about it online to thousands of people? Genuine question😂
My daughter rode competitively for seven years and was appalled at Laura’s form. She’s nothing more then a rich girl spending Daddy’s money pretending to be something she’s clearly not.
@@MiriamJL I hope all the men involved in the sport are very, very wary of her. It would be extremely risky to ever be alone with her.
Praying that Maricopa County concludes that they have the resources and interest in charging this person. This is the second similar high profile case in the county in a relatively short time. Bearing false witness is as real a problem in the 21st century as it was thousands of years ago.
Thanks Dave. Keep up the awesome coverage ❤
Wow! Auggie is 6 months all ready
Thank you once again Dave!
21:06 VERY WELL SAID DAVE 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼, TY 🫶. People need to only advocate for good & justice without Telling People what they can/cant do, Being Nasty or Bullying others. It’s disgusting! No one is allowed to try and control everyone and everything related to this case.
Nothing Laura Owens or her lawyer does is unbelievable any more. Thanks for keeping us up to date.
My opinion is also that she was never pregnant. Not with Clayton. Not Greg. No one.
Wow he is making this way more of a bigger deal than it already was and that was way big enough 🤪
Laura's lawyer is crazy to throw dirt at the district attorney. It actually demonstrates that he has issues with threatening people. It's interesting that he is defending a client with similar issues.
I pray that criminal charges are Laura’s Christmas gift from Maricopa County
I really think that they won't charge her! She always gets away with EVERYTHING.
She may have some kind of mental illness. But, she knows what she's doing is wrong. She doesn't need people to step in and take control of her and her life. She needs to take accountability and take responsibility for her actions.
Jail. She needs Jail, not to be infantilized. And, while in jail she needs to be an adult and figure out why she acted that way and take action to get better. Or, she can be like every other repeat criminal and waste her time behind bars blaming everyone else for her plight.
She has severe personality disorders.
I feel there is something at stake for Gingras if he loses. His threats are threats driven by desperation. Not sure what it is. But whatever it is, it's big.
Thanks for the update as always Dave!!
I can't believe he's already 6 months! 😮 It went so fast!
Hahaha dave cracks me up the way he describes Lauras weirdo lawyers behavior! 😂😂
I think the people who care about Maricopa County, RM position and the article referenced aren’t the majority of the people following the LO case who have interest in this update. These are mostly people all over the US & other parts of the world, not the local community. I can only guess the majority of people in Maricopa County still have no idea who LO’s is, given this, If I genuinely needed distraction, a statement about LO wouldn’t be it.
The royal f*** u was the best...all the best!!! Hahaha 😂😂😂 love you Dave, T & A & will be here for your support!!!
The public to Laura Owens: “THIS FAR, NO FURTHER!”
Keep up the great work!
jabroni 😂 love it. I had to rewatch of course because the patreon chat is so socialable and fun haha
Dingus is too scared to even tag her! 😱
#alwayslove
I’m speechless …. But 👏Dave! 😮Great job Dave 💪
And justice for all innocent victims !💪
It would be interesting to hear what the excuse would be if they don’t charge her as opposed to the other woman that was just charged for doing almost the same thing. Why would she not be charged when she’s clearly breaking the law just like the other woman 🤔
Standing up against women and men who abuse the system and manipulate it to get their own way is a necessity. I hope she is brought up on charges, a stand needs to be taken. Mentally ill or not, she’s an adult and is being enabled by others who should have got her care if she needs it!
August might be teething...
Let's goooo! Happy Friday 🎉
Time to throw her in jail!
I think what Juarez was saying, not that it is what actually happened - but that Laura could have legally made her way out of it by making the claims she described.
The fact that she KEEPS doubling down is what makes it necessary even for her to be prosecuted as CLEARLY she will continue her behaviors if action is not taken to stop her.
WOW this lawyer is SO detrimental to his client! I have got to think that these lawyers like this are just as ill as their clients - this is a new and scary phenomenon of lawyer behaviors on Social Media and the Hale’s case has parallels to this. Arguing cases they are involved in through the media should be banned/illegal - it all started actually it seems with Depp V Heard where it was argued that the case was tried in the media and this seems to have given lawyers bad ideas…
I don't think it's a mental health issue with LO, it seems much more likely to be mainly fuelled by a personality disorder - sadly these are reportedly more resistant to treatment, and the person has to recognise that the personality disorder is causing them problems and so be highly motivated to try and change. Prison probably is the only thing which might frighten her into changing her behaviour, even so, she would find some other outlet for her controlling behaviour.
Yup. The ONLY way she has gotten away with her severe personality disorders is due to her enabling parents and sister. I want their assets exposed because they are her enablers.
He doesn't have any cases, Dave. This is his life.
RFU 🤬 to Dingus!
Come on Maricopa County, bring it!!!!!
Awe!!
6 months already? Time flies.
For starters I AM NOT GREG! I feel that needs to be said knowing how certain people respond to criticism. I don’t have X or Reddit, however, I follow all the RUclips channels that covers the stories involving LO. I am beyond grateful & sincerely thankful that Rachel Mitchell is investigating all of Laura Owen’s absolutely disgusting abusive deceitful criminal low life repeat (at least 10 years that we’ve found evidence for so far) behavior. It would be icing on the proverbial cake 🍰 if the male equivalent of LO aka David Gingras somehow faces consequences too. I’m not suggesting he’s done anything illegal technically, but his behavior has been beyond “criminal” in a social sense. Seeing what those 2 imbeciles have done & said on the regular hurts my brain due to how much obsessive bad behavior is shared between their decision making skills! It’s truly astonishing! I’ve never watched a single episode of the bachelor franchise empire of shows so I’m not here because being “star struck” by Clayton’s celebrity status. I’m a twin loss momma who would’ve celebrated my girls 19th birthday this year , but instead I mourn them daily. Yes, all these years later I still yearn for them every single day! It’s not something I can talk about without tears. I lost them 1 month apart & I absolutely without a doubt know the exact date each of them passed away. This is my reason for following this story so intensely. You can’t convince me that Laura Owens was ever pregnant when she’s not once spoke about her supposed children in a loving caring manner or shed a single tear over her “losses”. She has faked ugly cried plenty, however that was attention seeking behavior because her deceitful scams were being discovered at a rapid pace so she needed to put on a show hoping to gain supporters in her ploy to get multiple people (especially certain men some having never met her) cancelled so nobody would listen to all the years of lies Laura Owens has told. News Flash - it didn’t work! Laura simply dug the hole deeper. My point is that there are so many of us following this story wanting justice for any & all victims of Laura. I want her to be held accountable to for weaponizing different hot button groups (women’s rights, DV, SA, Autism, twin loss, Black Lives Matter, & many more) to further her agenda to punish anyone who stands up to her. I am a Speech Language Pathologist. I can’t even put in words the deep frustration I felt when seeing her article blaming Autism for all her bad behavior 🤬 ABSOLUTELY NOT! Many of the amazing people I’ve treated over the years fell on the spectrum & they are some of the best people you’ll ever meet. Not a rotten bone in their bodies. Of course, they struggle with some of the same issues we all do because they just like us with a brain that works against them at times. Not once have I seen any of my patients come even close to the acting the way Laura does. If she truly has Autism, I hope she gets into therapy immediately to help better manage her life. That being said Autism simply had nothing to do with her decade long scams/lies. She needs help in so many ways, but Gingras is not it.
I am so very sorry for the loss of your twins. I can only imagine how difficult that was for you to go through.
I’m deeply sorry for your loss. I cannot imagine that pain.
@@SueD.-rx7jl thank you
@@louisechopyak2384 thank you
Praying praying she’s charged soon. She should never be able to hide, and abuse men in the future. Laura owner is a fraud, and a disgusting human. Let’s make sure her deceptive behavior never fades away, otherwise she will do it too another man. Hopefully karma is filling her, and the universe never lets her have children, otherwise there will be more terrible humans in the world coming from a women like this.
Laura wanted attention. Play stupid games.
Oh Gosh having to suck snot! My daughter was sick when very little and she screamed when I did that as the Dr. directed. I was SO scared a neighbor would call the police and say I was killing her. (I also kind of felt as though I was harming her - because she was so upset.) she also had a nebulizer that she convinced me was harming her and when I told the Dr. how upset she was and screaming, I had to hold her on it, he said, “Good, that really means she is sucking the air in while doing that.” Big help he was with my parental trauma feeling as though I was harming her with her reaction to these treatments!
No body said no to you podcast 😂😂😂😂
Id like to order an RFU sticker please 😆
I mean the LO case isn’t my top priority when I plan my votes. Who is to say the other candidate also wouldn’t pursue charges against LO.
Dave making a killing on this?? Talk about false accusation while projecting. This lawyer knows full well this is his meal tix. It seems he’s hoping to retire on this because getting hired to take advantage of someone’s illness again, will be less likely after the negative exposure he is receiving.
Auggie is just the cutest.
What if Laura is charged by thanksgiving or christmas? I personally would love Laura behind bars during the biggest holidays of the year.
It always bugged me that her Aug 1, 2023 parenting plan asserted ALL Christmases should be with her and ALL New Years with CE (so he couldn’t date.)
But then later she asserts Judaism?
You know she just made the parenting holidays for the fake twins just to trigger a Missouri Christian to communicate and say “hey why can’t I get alternate Christmases?”
525,600 minutes…. 🎶
Are you and Clayton friends now bc of your support?
I wanna know the tea regarding the thread haha
It sounds like the Prosecutor is back peddling, just my opinion.
Your son is adorable!,😘🇨🇦
Thanks Dave. I take back my snarkiness. I was frustrated with the bullies who were claiming to be the ones bullied. You shouldn’t have been tagged in the thread. Hay tried to untag you. I just can’t watch a friend in tears for what was going on with Haybales
Luckily I didn’t see the person Bullying IT Goatee.
100%, I was going to address this in my comment then saw yours. People coming to me as a neutral party to express upset, frustration & sadness, with no way to make it stop is unacceptable. I have their backs and I’m glad they feel I’m a safe place & will always advocate for what is right! We band together to support good people but we shouldn’t have to. Hope this makes a difference. ❤❤
Top speed. R u aware?
He’s so cute in his jammies
Yes GO MAGA 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Idk i think the TDS is quite real in both you & her attorney. Funny coming from someone who should want to protect freedom of speech.
Does the baby have allergies or is he sick from being taken out in public during RSV season? Even when YOU go out you are supposed to take shoes off at the door and hop in the shower. Hope he feels better soon.
What in the world is this comment? Stop telling other people what to do and how to care for their children, it's weird.
Wanna listen Dave, but your ignorant political takes are too hard to handle lol you are unfortunately very uneducated but talk like some great savant… please stop.