King of Cutting Longsword? Albion Principe Review and Test Cutting ft. Tod's Workshop Scabbard

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

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  • @KKRCeb
    @KKRCeb Год назад +26

    I have the exact same sword and scabbard from Tod's! It is a beast cutter!

  • @kronos1794
    @kronos1794 Год назад +17

    Love mine, the moment I got my hands on it I promised if I could help it I'd never get rid of it.

  • @TheHazmate
    @TheHazmate Год назад +22

    Gotta say, I love the red leather, very sexy!

  • @daemon_I_blackfyre
    @daemon_I_blackfyre Год назад +11

    Finally you can sign up at those competitions.

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 Год назад +18

    it is designed for that.
    the problem is, that it is thin so it can chip off on harder objects. It* can cut very well specific hardness like flesh, plastic, tatami but, it cannot cut everything without getting destroyed.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +1

      Oh you CAN'T cut through a building without the blade suffering some deformation. That much is for sure, as if there's A sword in this world that's designed to cut through a building and not suffer any damage. Because as we all know, historically swords were designed to cut down a stone castle.

    • @ElDrHouse2010
      @ElDrHouse2010 Год назад +1

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold My point is, dont try to cut wood with it, it will chip.
      It can but its a bad idea to do it a lot.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +3

      @@ElDrHouse2010 I don't think it will chip on any wood. There simply isn't any wood hard enough to chip steel temper to 54 HRC. If you cleave deep into some hard wood and turn the blade, there's a chance it will deform, but not enough to chip steel.
      And yeah, swords are used to cut wood. It will probably be fine cutting down saplings, but not actual mature trees. You can chop down trees with flying color using a premium forest axe (Gransfors Bruk) less than 1/10 of the cost of a sword.

    • @ElDrHouse2010
      @ElDrHouse2010 Год назад +1

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold lmao dont do it... Learn from Skallagrim he had the same sword & he chipped it against wood.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +5

      @@ElDrHouse2010 He didn't "chip" the sword, the edge took a roll. It was deformed. It didn't lose material. Chipping is the steel breaking out and departing the blade.
      He also use a half-assed zwerchau to cut into a ZGB head's jaw, which is anatomically incorrect. Your mouth cavity is a hollow chamber, not a solid cement block. The zygomatic bone and maxilla bone that he was supposed to cut to (had the head been correct) are both plates that are easy to cut (trust me, my wife is a surgeon specialized in facial reconstruction). So Skallagrim basically cut a 34.5" long into a solid block of cement at where the blade already took a roll previously (and he cold-hammered it back, ruining the tempering of that area), and twisted it while putting his body weight into it. Yeah, no wonder it took a roll that large. BTW, it wasn't a chip, because there's no material loss. He sent it back to Albion, they annealed it and fixed the blade.

  • @cattycoon3939
    @cattycoon3939 11 месяцев назад +3

    Your place looks like heaven! Great video!

  • @hungamunga5860
    @hungamunga5860 Год назад +12

    That is one frightening sword!

  • @iratezombiemann
    @iratezombiemann Год назад +8

    Strange I haven't been getting notifications from you lately. Fantastic review, as always.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +1

      Thank you very much! RUclips is doing its best at suppressing smaller channels, business at usual in San Bruno, of course.

    • @iratezombiemann
      @iratezombiemann Год назад +1

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold Hey man, it just means I have top notch content to catch up on

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад

      Thank you for the continuous support, man!

  • @BLADESKNIVESBROTHERHOOD-vn3bn
    @BLADESKNIVESBROTHERHOOD-vn3bn 4 месяца назад +2

    Hello dear, I have seen this review of yours for the third time now that I am anxiously waiting for the legendary Albion Principe to finally arrive at my home. You really did an excellent job with this review… very good. See you soon and thank you as always for your advice... ahhhh and if the Principe arrives at my house after a long time... it's only thanks to you who notified me of your presence in Kult of Athena that day... for this reason alone I send you a big hug from distant Italy.🙏🏻❤️🤗

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  4 месяца назад +1

      Glad that you managed to grab it. Sometimes these rare Albion offerings pop up and then be gone within the blink of an eye. Hopefully everything arrives safe and sound so you can enjoy the sword!

    • @BLADESKNIVESBROTHERHOOD-vn3bn
      @BLADESKNIVESBROTHERHOOD-vn3bn 4 месяца назад +1

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold ❤️💪🏻👊🏻

  • @lorenzhelmschmid
    @lorenzhelmschmid Год назад +4

    I prefer the closer replica of Alexandria Arsenal swords. But this one is a community favourite.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад

      Indeed, which is why I enjoy the two offerings by Albion. One is more historically accurate and the other has a hilt that helps with handling.

  • @bladeoftheemperor3133
    @bladeoftheemperor3133 Год назад +4

    The King lives up to his title's grandiloquent claim!

  • @Ian.Mackenzie
    @Ian.Mackenzie Год назад +14

    You can’t go wrong with the Principe if you want to go competitive at sword cutting.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад

      Yes, that is my conclusion as well.

    • @keirfarnum6811
      @keirfarnum6811 Год назад

      Why would I want to cut a sword? That would make it not very functional; I prefer to keep swords intact, myself. 😁

  • @seanmacdougall6390
    @seanmacdougall6390 Год назад +5

    Please do a comparison between this one and the Irish ring pommel longsword and see which cuts better.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +1

      I might be able to do that in my upcoming "Evolution of Medieval Longswords" video.

  • @Regneva
    @Regneva 10 месяцев назад +3

    Great vid. Where did you get your scabbard from? In the market for one.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  10 месяцев назад

      Quickly, get one from Tod’a Workshop, they are running 20% off discount and it expires soon!

  • @ravedubin3515
    @ravedubin3515 11 месяцев назад +1

    You did the most adequate reading of the sword. It’s a worthwhile watch.

  • @FrostMocha
    @FrostMocha 19 дней назад +1

    Finally you can dominate the battlefield, or the dojo.

  • @salvadordali3566
    @salvadordali3566 6 месяцев назад +2

    It is almost a brush for the strokes of a painting, but the paint is blood.

  • @augiedad54
    @augiedad54 Год назад +4

    You indicated that the factory edge must be improved for the best cutting performance. I agree. But, you also mentioned that you did not see a bright secondary bevel line along the sword’s edge. How can one put a 40 degree apex edge on any sword without producing the bright, 1-2 mm wide line along the edge. Isn’t this inevitable? I’ve seen many videos in which the presenter berates a blade with a secondary bevel. The primary bevel on the Principe is approximately 10 degrees. But again, how can optimum sharpness be attained without adding a 40 degree secondary bevel and the accompanying bright line? I would very much appreciate your input.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад

      One: continuing with the 10-degree edge angle, and it WILL result in an apex. Sharpen that apex.
      Two: if you want some durability of the edge, apple seed it. Apple-seeding is not the same as secondary bevel, it's a gradual transition to a more obtuse angle at the very end before the apexing. Secondary bevel is a sudden transition between the primary bevel angle to another one, leaving an edge between the two bevels. It will impede cutting performance, naturally. If you hone the apexing to a high degree, the impact will be smaller, but it still dramatically increases the resistance the blade encounters.
      Three: the bright stripe can be caused either the existence of a lazy secondary bevel, or additional honing or repair of damaged edge with a belt of a different grit than the one used for the polishing of the blade surface. The latter would be acceptable if it's caused by an after-market sharpening, but less acceptable coming from a maker. Well, at least not in Albion's standards. People may accept that from other makers, but Albion's hallmark includes having the same grit of polishing and the sharpening, that, with the carefully executed apple-seeding (not secondary bevel), is one of the many reasons people buy Albion swords.

    • @augiedad54
      @augiedad54 Год назад

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold That is very helpful. So, the real difference in geometry between a secondary bevel and an apple-seed edge is the abruptness of the transition from the main bevel to the edge bevel. It is intuitive that an Appleseed edge would pass through a target with less resistance than and beveled transition.
      Another issue with factory edges is polishing. Every sword that I have ever received, from any manufacturer, had an unpolished edge. I would define an unpolished edge as one which has grind marks that are visible to the naked eye. The edge might be very sharp, and easily slice thru paper, but one can feel the drag as it does so, and tiny paper fragments are transferred to the blade.
      I would think that the final 1mm of the edge should have a mirror polish. But, I’ve been unable to polish the edge to that degree without creating a much wider polished edge, maybe 2mm. This bright ribbon is VERY noticeable, especially on an Albion that that a satin finish.
      So, once I’ve got the edge polished like I want I narrow the the shiny strip down to 1mm with some #7448 Scotchbright and a small, detailing sanding block, taking care to stay away from the cutting edge.
      Am I making this process unnecessarily complicated, or does this match your experience? Thanks again for all your excellent videos.

    • @augiedad54
      @augiedad54 Год назад

      …BTW, I am using a Work Sharp® Ken Onion sharpener with Blade-Grinder Attachment. Basically, a compact slack-belt grinder.

  • @scottyelder8351
    @scottyelder8351 11 месяцев назад +3

    The original piece is an absolute masterpiece !
    This is a worthy tribute to the original this weapon would have been a scourge upon the Heritics
    The original blade would be worthy of being worn by Christ himself ✝️
    It's truly beautiful.

  • @raphaelhanna8345
    @raphaelhanna8345 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Kane Shen out of curiosity what do you think about flamberge's? Do you think they actually benefit cutting power? Or do you think they're just for show?

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  6 месяцев назад

      Yes, indeed flamberg pattern edge can help a bit with cutting IF sharpened correctly. It also helps a bit with binding that your opponent's blade doesn't skid off or slide off easily, they tend to stay where the impact is.

    • @raphaelhanna8345
      @raphaelhanna8345 6 месяцев назад

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold Out of curiosity do you think it might be plausible to cut with the tip of the A474's blade as I have heard Matt Easton say that with the Royal Armouries sword since it's tip isn't fully acute you might be able to cut with it so I'm wondering if the A474 has that same advantage

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  6 месяцев назад

      @raphaelhanna8345 yeah it’s possible. It’s not the type of XVIIIb that has a long transition to an acute tip, and it also has a rigid blade so possibly has some tip cut potential.

  • @the_facelessman
    @the_facelessman 5 месяцев назад +1

    Do you recommend this one as a primary cutting sword over the Alexandria?

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  5 месяцев назад

      Good question. I used to think the Principe beats the Alexandria 100% of the time in terms of demanding competition cutting, because of the added leverage and closer point of balance. But now sometimes I have heard conflicting report that the reduced 6-7 ounces on Alexandria does help with the handling and some people do prefer cutting with two hands bunched up instead of spread further apart. So I guess it's a personal preference.

  • @colebertram8482
    @colebertram8482 Год назад +3

    Do you prefer this over regent ?

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +1

      For me this doesn’t replace the Regent. Very different kinds of sword. The Regent is a sword more balanced between cut and thrust and the weight is more efficient, not to mention being a sword better suited for longsword techniques. This holds its unique place in my heart, but if I can only have one sword, I’d rather have the Regent.

    • @colebertram8482
      @colebertram8482 Год назад

      @FortuneFavoursTheBold Thank you so much for the thoughtful reply , I really appreciate this . I've been torn between the earl and principe as my first albion . The principe is very unique and beautiful but it is just so so specialized for one purpose it makes me nervous due to how thin it is , although its an amazing cutter i feel like id be so scared to deform the edge as I'm a less experienced sword user.
      The earl / regent seems like a better option due to how robust those blades are designed and versatile , I'd be more comfortable using it for cuts / training . The regent and earl really do look lovely in the way they handle by the videos I've seen .
      Thank you for the great content 🙏

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +1

      Thank you for your support! Choice as the first longsword: the Earl wins. It's a better representative of the average late medieval longsword. The Principe is the opposite to the average longsword, it has a short but stout blade, much wider but thinner than the average blade optimized for cutting, but also good at thrust against combatants not in steel armor (maille and/or plate), but the heft/reach ratio is rather high.
      Durability wise I have a lot to say about this. The Principe is gonna be fine so long you don't cleave it into a block of cement and then twist (precisely what Skallagrim did to deform his blade, after he cold-roll to "fix" the previous edge deformation from cutting a tree). ZGB zombie heads are a pretty terrible analog of human anatomy. The cheek bone is a thin plate of bone that's hollow on the inside of the mouth cavity (bone in itself is also hollow with marrow inside). Bones are hard and dry when dead, but softer and more flexible when living. I cut bone plates such as pork shoulder blades before with a razor edge on a huge khukuri, which cleaved the shoulder blade in half, but suffered some minor roll (but still just as deadly). The Principe does not have a razor blade, it's thin but have an apple seed geometry near the edge. It will be fine.
      ZGB heads are made of cement and there's no mouth cavity, it's a solid cement block. Skallagrim made the worst call to use a complex technique to feint and then twist the wrist to cut into the cement block, after which he proceeded to twist the blade while it's still stuck inside the cement, as you can't cut through a cement block completely with a sword, or anything really. The blade couldn't possible pry open a cement block, so it deformed, anything would have been deformed. He should have done an oberhau from overhead position to cut into the actual hollow cavity on that ZGB head. He didn't. Neither did he explore the reason why before going on to blame it on Albion. No hate towards him, but he was utterly wrong.
      All that being said, the Earl is indeed gonna be more durable than the Principe, but does it make a significant difference in cutting tatami mats, bottles, and green bamboo? Not really. Still The Earl would be my choice as the first sword. My first was the Regent, basically the Earl with a different pommel and crossguard. Good luck!

    • @colebertram8482
      @colebertram8482 Год назад +1

      @FortuneFavoursTheBold It was a pleasure reading your absolute wealth of knowledge on this subject.
      This has definitely well informed me on the skallagrim incident now. That honestly could have been a RUclips video in itself , of you just explaining and breaking that down. I'm sure like me, it has probably made many potential principe buyers shy a way, seeing a large sword RUclipsr damage that blade. ( evident of the comments) So this clarification from a principe owner / avid sword user is great of value for many . It does truly come down to the user as do most things . The principe reminds me of a brush machete in terms of blade thickness and flexibility, and yet those are made out of lesser steels , but seem quite durable despite of that. So that was indeed a massive user error on his end .
      But I will take your well-informed opinion on the earl. I look forward to your future content .
      Cheers

  • @RodneyKatana
    @RodneyKatana 13 дней назад +1

    Was is the color on that grip? is that Oxblood or red?

  • @raphaelhanna8345
    @raphaelhanna8345 6 месяцев назад +1

    Something random I want to say is that I've spoken to a person on Facebook named Ryan Renfro and he said that he studied the Wallace Collection A474 and said that the thickness was 7.6mm at the guard, 6.7mm in the middle of the blade and 3.4mm near the tip do you think that might be plausible?

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  6 месяцев назад

      Indeed that sounds potentially plausible.

    • @raphaelhanna8345
      @raphaelhanna8345 6 месяцев назад

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold Actually I want to say that I've looked at a review of the Royal Armouries 15th Century Two Handed Sword isn't as thick as it's said to be on Royal Armouries website since apparently in a review the blade is said to be near identical thickness to that of what Ryan Renfro said about the A474 if that's the case do you think maybe it could be accurate to say that the Royal Armouries website is wrong about the blade thickness and both the A474 and IX1787 are both a similar thickness of 7.6mm at the guard and 3.4mm near the tip?

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  6 месяцев назад

      @raphaelhanna8345 which review did you read or watch? On RUclips or on a forum or Facebook?

    • @raphaelhanna8345
      @raphaelhanna8345 6 месяцев назад

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold I found a review on the Sword Buyers Guide of the Royal Armouries Sword and it said the distal taper was 0,3" at guard - 0,14" an inch from the tip and 0,04" at the very tip I converted it to mm and it said 7.62mm at the guard, 3.556mm an inch from the tip and 1mm on the tip itself and despite being thinner than advertised the weight is 4lb 12,5 oz

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  6 месяцев назад

      @@raphaelhanna8345 yes, that’s possible. The official stat of the base thickness by Windlass is 1/3” which is 8.4mm. But Windlass often has large variations so some of them starts at 7.6mm is possible. My RAC type XVII longsword starts at 7.4mm and the official spec states 8mm. It will handle a bit differently from the original, but not by a large margin.

  • @Regneva
    @Regneva 10 месяцев назад +2

    NVM, just finished the vid lol

  • @jamiecorrigan3241
    @jamiecorrigan3241 Год назад

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  • @nightcitysamurai
    @nightcitysamurai Год назад +9

    Can it out-cut a katana?

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +1

      I think given the bigger reacher and bigger mass, it may very well out-cut most katanas.

    • @ElDrHouse2010
      @ElDrHouse2010 Год назад +2

      depends on the katana and the depends on the object you are cutting.
      the real question is: Can it out-cut a Flax or Rhomphaia. There I dont think so but those are single edge.

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад +1

      @@ElDrHouse2010 I will out cut rhomphaia, those are smaller in dimension or in weight than the Principe. Even though they are single-edged, their bevels are not as deep for the lower 90% of the blade on the Principe, because of the latter's width. Like I said, after the initial cleaving, the slashing motion will carry the blade through the body of the target in a slicing motion, widening the wound as a secondary cutting mechanism. Being forwardly curved, both the rhomphaia and falx aren't capable of that.

    • @ElDrHouse2010
      @ElDrHouse2010 Год назад +1

      @@FortuneFavoursTheBold I see.
      So you would say this wide* thinning & tapering blade shape of the Principe is the best shape for a cutting sword?

    • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
      @FortuneFavoursTheBold  Год назад

      Yes, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. It is the most proficient cutting profile. It doesn't make it the most effective fighting weapon, though.