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Love the content bro. I can’t tell you how satisfying it is watching you do repairs as meticulous as possible 😎. Also you make me wana drop 5k on koken tools lol
I just changed my valve body. I have a 300 dollar scanner from auto zone that I used to clear the codes after I hooked everything back up. No lights on and it’s driving fine. I’m ready to change my fluid and have the same question.
Hey my man, I’m a’ European car tech so Subaru is uncharted territory for me 🤣. If I only replace the lock duty solenoid do I still need to perform the AT learning process? Or is it only needed when replacing the entire valve body? Great video by the way, you truly explain everything in a straightforward and very didactic way! Keep it up my bro
I put a smart level up against the chassis that is how I level the vehicle. Also a garden sprayer works just as good but a lot cheaper than the automotive application pump
Dunno how the hell Subaru of America can say its a sealed unit with lifetime fluid when it goes in a nice light blue and comes out looking like that after ~100 000 miles.
Hi, very nice videos, thank you so much. I replaced the valve body on my outback 2012 (TR690), and a friend helped me with the learning process, everything is working as it should. However, the AT OIL TEMP light is flashing in 8 times/2 seconds intervals. I read is because the TCM is in learning mode, I just wanted to know if is there a way to stop the light from flashing without the scanner tool… Any guidance you can provide would be really appreciate it.
Vid is good to go. Appreciate all your vids very much. After replacing valve body do you think the logic in the vehicle's computer will figure out the re-learn in the course of normal driving. Or is it imperative to manual re-learn with scan tool. 100+ dollars just to get appointment at the dealer to hook up the scanner. Again thank you for vids.
You don’t have to do the re learn on a drain a fill right? You’re doing this since you replaced the valve body. Also can you use a temperature gun for the transmission temp?
I was going to replace the valve body on my 2012 Impreza, but the local dealership quoted me $1800 to replace it and do a full CVT service. Seems like a decent deal. Another Subaru dealer quoted me at like $2600. Amazing how different dealerships can be.
Dang, I was thinking of doing this myself but if it's recommended to do an AT reset, I guess I'll have to take it in. Mine is at 94k and starting to hesitate around 13 mph.
Roughly how much CVT fluid did you use for this? I'm replacing a valve body in my 2012 Impreza and doing a change and fill. I don't want to buy too much, but I also want to have enough without running back for more fluid. Thanks and keep up the great content!
Great video! Your content is always very detailed and so informative. Thank You. Is the relearn process absolutely necessary? I'm over a hundred miles from a Subaru Dealership.
Thanks for the video. It is great video for me to service my first subie! But I have a question of jacking up my car. Where is the safe jack point for front and rear SGP? Thank you again!
@@chukkelz4425 nope, I'm going to bite the bullet and have Subaru do mine. Don't want to spend $800 on a part, have an issue, have it blamed on the re-learn, and end up paying Subaru to do it anyhow. I'm not sure if smaller shops have a diagnostic tool that can initiate the re-learn. I also reached out to SOA as I've seen people in certain states mention a PZEV warranty up to 150k to which SOA will partially or completely cover the repair
@@chukkelz4425 what state do you live in? The dealer just called me this afternoon and said my car is covered under the PZEV warranty despite being 10yrs old and having 130k on the odometer. The repair will be at NO COST to me
If the valve body replacement was successful should I expect the check engine lights to come back on if I don't get the relearn done right away and try driving it for maybe a day?
I'm about to change just the 3 ohm solenoid in the valve body. Do you think I will need the relearn process if just one solenoid that was faulting out has been replaced?
Thank you for the videos and the always helpful Torque specs. I’ve got a 2010 forester I do my own repair on and your videos have been invaluable. All I see are your stickers. Do you have any other merch or patreon for us to support everything you do?
hi there. some drain the old oil via the oilcooler hoses, so the pump pushes the old oil out while topping up through the fillplug. my question is: could this harm the cvt when no oil is going back in the system but captured in a bottle? i didnt find any drawings of the lubrication tr580 lubrication system to verify if that method is benefitial for diy flushing the cvt or not. thx :)
hey, i have an odd question probably. I bought the oil and imported it to germany, bought the exact same oil pump... but it only sucks oil but does not transfer.... did you use any external pump to create pressure inside the cylinder?
Mr Subaru I have a concern and need your advice, I have a 2014 outback 2.5 I had the tranny replaced at 246,000km with a used one that had 140,000km I have since put on 40,000km and the car is starting to sputter they say it probably the torque converter, can it be repaired or do I have to replace it and advice would be greatly appreciated
Mr Subaru, I bought my 2015 outback with 87k miles. Idk if the fluid has been changed out. Should i do a flush or just change? One or two changes now and then at 120k? Do i change the filter too?
Really enjoy your videos! I’m considering buying my first Subaru. I’ve had a few different rav4’s and was able to get 260,000 miles out of both. I’ve found a nice clean 2017 forester with 27,000 miles. If we keep up with the maintenance is there a good chance it would go the 250,000 mile range?
Mr. Subaru, great video. I'm planning on doing a drain and fill on my CVT soon, and I'll be dropping the pan to clean the magnet off (110k on the car). What gasket sealant would you recommend for resealing the pan as TB1217b is usually unavailable, and it gets confusing to figure out what alternative to use?
Hey Mr. Subaru. I know that this is not the topic you are talking about. I just wonder about using the Penzoil Ultra Platinum oil 0W20 on my 2021 Ascent and high mileage same oil for the 2013 Legacy. What are your thoughts on WIX XP vs WIX oil filters, XP is impossible to find in Canada. Great video as always.
Hello, can you tell me please if I can swap a 4 speed AT in a 2004 forester xt, for a 5 speed AT those attached in the H6 of those years?...have doudbts because that transmision was only available for the H6...rigth?...thank you
At what mileage should this be done. I have a 2014 Outback 3.6 r . And thank you so much for your very informative videos keep them coming please. Nice Answer
My 2013 Outback , 2.5 is having issues.. just started this morning. I had some smoke from the Hood as I pulled up to my shop… Was driving fine the way in.. I live in NY, stuck at work 19 miles from home Car gets up to 2-3 RPM before moving.. kinda Jerks.. Idk what to do. the “Transmission fluid temp” light came on. Along with Check engine- Brake and Cruise control.. I seriously think I may be Cursed.. what a week.. FML S•O•S
my name is Christina using my friends youtybe so I have 11 subaru legacy 2.5i premium when I first got the car one day it kept dying on me had it checked at a subaru dealership they said nothing was wrong with it then found out they never actually looked at my car that day now my car won't go at all and go as In it will start coast but as soon as I push on the gas it stall out and dies and sometimes it won't let me start it again and I've cleaned the throttle body replaced the map and maf sensor please do have any idea what it could be
My former local Subaru dealer stripped out the fill hole threads on my TR580 and just used form a gasket to hold the plug in there. Does anybody have any suggestions on a better fix than this.m? It constantly weeps.
Enough. 😂 I honestly don't know. I have Ober a gallon in the transfer pump. I never measure it. Just fill it until it's set to factory procedure. Ballpark around 6-8qts
One note: especially if you are in a hot climate, if you've say driver your Subaru to your buddy's to do the drain and fill, let it sit for 3+ hours. If you drain hot CVT fluid out of a hot tranny and pump in new fluid, the new fluid will quickly be over the check temperature. You'll then have to either let the car cool down for a long time or just send it!
193k on this one. 223k on my 2013 Crosstrek. 210k miles on my brother's 2011 Outback. Just posted about a 350k mile one, original. They last when cared for.
I panicked at 125k miles realizing the service was never done or recommended. Just did this and surprised the fluid looked clear (lightish brown). Go figure. I added magnets to the bottom outside of the pan as didn't want to drop the pan.
I brought mine in because the light wasn’t coming on where the automatic shifter is. When I went to pick it up they had all the plastic taken off and stole in the backseat. Wouldn’t put it past them….
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We all should contribute for a shop with a two post lift for Mr. Subaru!
In a livestream I asked why he didn't crowdsource his shop and he said he didn't feel comfortable doing that. I think he's wrong though. :)
@@midwest_encyclopedic I think he’s earned it.
Or.... at least pour a concrete pad so he can work on it... and not on the dirt/grass/gravel/mud.....etc...
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Did TR580 CVTF fluid changes myself couples of months ago. Gotta say, for DIYers, the hardest part is getting the car jacked and leveled.
how did you do the AT relearn?
@@v0mdragon Didn't do the learning thing. The fluid came out pretty clean, there isn't much of difference after 4k.
@@v0mdragon Any high end scan tool can do it. I have an Autel MS909 and it has all the functionality
Love the content bro. I can’t tell you how satisfying it is watching you do repairs as meticulous as possible 😎. Also you make me wana drop 5k on koken tools lol
It's even more fun doing this on TR690
Amost makes me wanna drive to SC and have Mr Subaru do my CVT drain & fill at 50-60k!
Always great information from Mr. Subaru.
How important is the learning process? Would it be ok to skip going to the dealer after changing the valve body?
I just changed my valve body. I have a 300 dollar scanner from auto zone that I used to clear the codes after I hooked everything back up. No lights on and it’s driving fine. I’m ready to change my fluid and have the same question.
Did u guys end up going to the dealer or no?
@@vicentejrquintana2077 no, its drives good now but AT oil light still on.
Hey my man, I’m a’ European car tech so Subaru is uncharted territory for me 🤣. If I only replace the lock duty solenoid do I still need to perform the AT learning process? Or is it only needed when replacing the entire valve body? Great video by the way, you truly explain everything in a straightforward and very didactic way! Keep it up my bro
Thank you so much. This helped me out so much.
Funny no one mentions that Subuaru CVTF is just Idemitsu CVTF-Type SB which you can also get int 5qt jugs.
I put a smart level up against the chassis that is how I level the vehicle. Also a garden sprayer works just as good but a lot cheaper than the automotive application pump
Great video. Always in joy see this information. Thanks
Dunno how the hell Subaru of America can say its a sealed unit with lifetime fluid when it goes in a nice light blue and comes out looking like that after ~100 000 miles.
I swear if I ever make it and you don't have what you need i got you!
Hi, very nice videos, thank you so much. I replaced the valve body on my outback 2012 (TR690), and a friend helped me with the learning process, everything is working as it should. However, the AT OIL TEMP light is flashing in 8 times/2 seconds intervals. I read is because the TCM is in learning mode, I just wanted to know if is there a way to stop the light from flashing without the scanner tool… Any guidance you can provide would be really appreciate it.
Thanks so much. I have this to do yet on my 2011 outback along with top end service cleaner.
Tq for sharing knowledge to me..I'm from Malaysia..
Vid is good to go. Appreciate all your vids very much. After replacing valve body do you think the logic in the vehicle's computer will figure out the re-learn in the course of normal driving. Or is it imperative to manual re-learn with scan tool. 100+ dollars just to get appointment at the dealer
to hook up the scanner.
Again thank you for vids.
You don’t have to do the re learn on a drain a fill right? You’re doing this since you replaced the valve body. Also can you use a temperature gun for the transmission temp?
Correct
I was going to replace the valve body on my 2012 Impreza, but the local dealership quoted me $1800 to replace it and do a full CVT service. Seems like a decent deal. Another Subaru dealer quoted me at like $2600. Amazing how different dealerships can be.
Cost about $1,200 to do DIY
what software/device to measure ATF temp and perform CVT relearn? also part number for fill plug washer/gasket?
Great job. Thank you for your hard work :)
Really enjoy your channel!
Dang, I was thinking of doing this myself but if it's recommended to do an AT reset, I guess I'll have to take it in. Mine is at 94k and starting to hesitate around 13 mph.
Another great video 👍 👍
Roughly how much CVT fluid did you use for this?
I'm replacing a valve body in my 2012 Impreza and doing a change and fill. I don't want to buy too much, but I also want to have enough without running back for more fluid.
Thanks and keep up the great content!
Great video! Your content is always very detailed and so informative. Thank You.
Is the relearn process absolutely necessary? I'm over a hundred miles from a Subaru Dealership.
Thanks for the video. It is great video for me to service my first subie! But I have a question of jacking up my car. Where is the safe jack point for front and rear SGP? Thank you again!
Front cross member, rear differential housing.
Hey quick question. Do you do the at learning with the car in the air?
How to we do the re-learn without Select Monitor? ActiveOBD can read the temp, but I don't know of a way to initiate the re-learn.
Have you figured that part out bc I'm in the same boat rn
@@chukkelz4425 nope, I'm going to bite the bullet and have Subaru do mine. Don't want to spend $800 on a part, have an issue, have it blamed on the re-learn, and end up paying Subaru to do it anyhow. I'm not sure if smaller shops have a diagnostic tool that can initiate the re-learn. I also reached out to SOA as I've seen people in certain states mention a PZEV warranty up to 150k to which SOA will partially or completely cover the repair
@@chukkelz4425 what state do you live in? The dealer just called me this afternoon and said my car is covered under the PZEV warranty despite being 10yrs old and having 130k on the odometer. The repair will be at NO COST to me
What do you use for your brake parts cleaning solution?
Brake parts cleaner
If the valve body replacement was successful should I expect the check engine lights to come back on if I don't get the relearn done right away and try driving it for maybe a day?
I'm about to change just the 3 ohm solenoid in the valve body. Do you think I will need the relearn process if just one solenoid that was faulting out has been replaced?
Thank you for the videos and the always helpful Torque specs. I’ve got a 2010 forester I do my own repair on and your videos have been invaluable.
All I see are your stickers. Do you have any other merch or patreon for us to support everything you do?
hi there. some drain the old oil via the oilcooler hoses, so the pump pushes the old oil out while topping up through the fillplug. my question is: could this harm the cvt when no oil is going back in the system but captured in a bottle? i didnt find any drawings of the lubrication tr580 lubrication system to verify if that method is benefitial for diy flushing the cvt or not. thx :)
hey, i have an odd question probably. I bought the oil and imported it to germany, bought the exact same oil pump... but it only sucks oil but does not transfer.... did you use any external pump to create pressure inside the cylinder?
Mr Subaru I have a concern and need your advice, I have a 2014 outback 2.5 I had the tranny replaced at 246,000km with a used one that had 140,000km I have since put on 40,000km and the car is starting to sputter they say it probably the torque converter, can it be repaired or do I have to replace it and advice would be greatly appreciated
Mr Subaru, I bought my 2015 outback with 87k miles. Idk if the fluid has been changed out. Should i do a flush or just change? One or two changes now and then at 120k? Do i change the filter too?
Really enjoy your videos! I’m considering buying my first Subaru. I’ve had a few different rav4’s and was able to get 260,000 miles out of both. I’ve found a nice clean 2017 forester with 27,000 miles. If we keep up with the maintenance is there a good chance it would go the 250,000 mile range?
Great clip. I curious about the software loaded on that Lenovo laptop; availability, cost, source, etc. Thanks
Did you ever find the answer to this?
Mr. Subaru, great video. I'm planning on doing a drain and fill on my CVT soon, and I'll be dropping the pan to clean the magnet off (110k on the car). What gasket sealant would you recommend for resealing the pan as TB1217b is usually unavailable, and it gets confusing to figure out what alternative to use?
there is one on ebay
@@v0mdragon $100?!?! I'm good 🙂
great video. can you make video on running valve cleaner through the newer 2.4 turbo?
Would this be applicable to a 2014 2.5 cvt outback?
Hey Mr. Subaru. I know that this is not the topic you are talking about. I just wonder about using the Penzoil Ultra Platinum oil 0W20 on my 2021 Ascent and high mileage same oil for the 2013 Legacy. What are your thoughts on WIX XP vs WIX oil filters, XP is impossible to find in Canada. Great video as always.
WIX oil filters are great to use.
Is it possible to get the TCC code if the fluid level is low?
Hi what happen if you put the cvt fluid on the top instead there? Any problem if you put in the wrong side thanks
Hello, can you tell me please if I can swap a 4 speed AT in a 2004 forester xt, for a 5 speed AT those attached in the H6 of those years?...have doudbts because that transmision was only available for the H6...rigth?...thank you
At what mileage should this be done. I have a 2014 Outback 3.6 r . And thank you so much for your very informative videos keep them coming
please.
Nice
Answer
You have a 5EAT conventional automatic transmission, not a CVT. ATF should be drained and refilled every 3yr/36k miles.
Do these CVTs have a changeable filter at all?
No
valve body replacement is 5000k puls in Australian can a just change the fluid Will that work I got lights on the dashboard, the car has 215k on it
Why would you need to change the valve body? What symptoms indicate the need? Is it an upgrade?
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What kind idemitsu atf for impreza 2014 ?
Replacing Valve Body at home. Closest dealership is 45min away. Am I okay to drive that far before doing relearn? Is the relearn worth the money?
You can drive it, but the relearn process is best to be done asap.
@@MrSubaru1387 Awesome, thanks
Sweet i was wondering the same i have 192k so i am probably do. 😐
My 2013 Outback , 2.5 is having issues.. just started this morning.
I had some smoke from the Hood as I pulled up to my shop…
Was driving fine the way in..
I live in NY, stuck at work 19 miles from home
Car gets up to 2-3 RPM before moving.. kinda Jerks..
Idk what to do.
the “Transmission fluid temp” light came on. Along with Check engine- Brake and Cruise control..
I seriously think I may be Cursed..
what a week.. FML
S•O•S
my name is Christina using my friends youtybe so I have 11 subaru legacy 2.5i premium when I first got the car one day it kept dying on me had it checked at a subaru dealership they said nothing was wrong with it then found out they never actually looked at my car that day now my car won't go at all and go as In it will start coast but as soon as I push on the gas it stall out and dies and sometimes it won't let me start it again and I've cleaned the throttle body replaced the map and maf sensor please do have any idea what it could be
My former local Subaru dealer stripped out the fill hole threads on my TR580 and just used form a gasket to hold the plug in there. Does anybody have any suggestions on a better fix than this.m? It constantly weeps.
Yeah. Take the dealer to small claims court!
This was about 9 years ago and I didn’t notice until well after the dealer had closed its doors for good.
Have you ever used any tekton tools? They are really good for the price ,the quality is really good.
Nope. And don't plan to.
No filter? 🤔
almost 6k on my 22 OBW so far so good.
How much fluid did you use?
Enough. 😂 I honestly don't know. I have Ober a gallon in the transfer pump. I never measure it. Just fill it until it's set to factory procedure. Ballpark around 6-8qts
One note: especially if you are in a hot climate, if you've say driver your Subaru to your buddy's to do the drain and fill, let it sit for 3+ hours. If you drain hot CVT fluid out of a hot tranny and pump in new fluid, the new fluid will quickly be over the check temperature. You'll then have to either let the car cool down for a long time or just send it!
You're over thinking it.
Can someone please help me with this relearn process i just changed out the valve body but do i need a program pleassseeeee someone help?!?!?!?
Can anyone comment on how many miles they have on these CVTs , are they known to last or time bombs ?
193k on this one. 223k on my 2013 Crosstrek. 210k miles on my brother's 2011 Outback. Just posted about a 350k mile one, original. They last when cared for.
I panicked at 125k miles realizing the service was never done or recommended. Just did this and surprised the fluid looked clear (lightish brown). Go figure. I added magnets to the bottom outside of the pan as didn't want to drop the pan.
Best thing Subaru could do is get rid of dealerships. Just have service centers and sell cars online.
No “service” center for me. Thank you.
I don’t think I will ever change my fluid. Until it needs it.
And how you can tell when it need fluid change or entire transmission change?
Will my stealership mess this up and ruin my transmission?
I brought mine in because the light wasn’t coming on where the automatic shifter is. When I went to pick it up they had all the plastic taken off and stole in the backseat. Wouldn’t put it past them….
Yes , it is mandatory