Unless the 2nd best team is tied with 5 or 6 others, like this year. People who don't consider the SEC as the best conference in football (it's not even a discussion in reality) could care less about 2nd best--unless it's their team which ironically for the last 15 years is always the case.
@@rpoosua3452dude be quiet. That would eliminate most of the 12 team playoff now. Just say you’re scared for these cupcake undefeated teams to get washed by the SEC teams lol. Just another TCU beatdown waiting to happen. Get over it
This is a result of all of these schools joining the same conference. Now you have unbalanced scheduling along with too many good teams playing in the same conference
yes now they crying ESPN is bias because the SEC is all they really have the same can be said by the Big Ten the tournament committee got it wrong a tournament with conference championship winners is the best way how can you call yourself a National Championship but cant win your conference
this makes zero sense tho. they win that game..lose in the sec, they still would drop in standings. yeah they might make it still but the loser of their respective conferences get punished. meanwhile 2 teams at home who didn’t qualify all of a sudden jump up
He’s not wrong. I mean look at Notre Dame being independent and not joining the conference. How is it fair for them skipping conference championship game to playoff while others conference teams have to risk for their conference championship game?
All the experts said ND needs to join a conference. Now they say they don’t want to play in their own conference championship games!🤔 ND playing chess while they play checkers!
I agree with @masonpalazzolo2387 about ND. ND should NOT be in playoff. I don't care if ND can generate money for TV or network. ND need to be in a conference.
This is such a stupid point. If there are four SEC teams with 2 losses going into Championship Saturday, at least two of those teams will be included in the playoff without having played in the conference championship game, just like ND.
If you're in before the championship game over a team that's not playing in the championship game then those teams not playing shouldn't be able to jump you
Not worth the risk if the CFB Committee is gonna reward teams in your own conference that finished BELOW you with a playoff bid and you get left out. That makes zero sense. The SEC and Big 10 presidents should have never agreed to this format.
I think if you make it to the championship game you should automatically get a playoff spot regardless if you win or lose. Obviously the winner gets the sweet end of it while the loser at least is guaranteed a spot. Even if you lose the championship game you should be ranked higher than the teams that didn’t make it… Or the championship game should be a free game as in it has no effect on your ranking if you win/lose. You are still guaranteed your spot on the rankings.
@@saulescamilla3605doesn’t work that way kid. There are other teams with the same record that could easily be in the same conference title game. Simply put, given the circumstances, if you have 3 losses, you’re out. Simple
Make every conference declare a champion based on regular season standings. No need to play a championship game. Or make the playoff selection before the championship games. These are defacto games anyway.
Not every conference The MAC, SBC, ACC, Big 12 and the other small conferences should keep it SEC only needs to remove it and only the top of each division should matter
🏆 Just what I have been saying. Why not go to 32 teams or 64 or 132 team CFP... Oh yeah, we had that and too many people were whining. It was called the CFB season.
Ummm if several teams end up 10-2 by the end of the season and the loser of the SEC title game ends up 10-3, that loser will be dropped out of the playoffs in favor of the other SEC teams that didn’t lose an extra game. It already happened last year with UGA after they lost the SEC title last year. They went from #1 to #6 after losing to Bama. It doesn’t matter what you think. It matters what the committee thinks
Such a dumb comment. If you’re the best 4 you deserve to be in instead of teams that aren’t the best. It was supposed to be the best 4, not the 4 teams with best records.
As a georgia fan i want that 2024 SEC-Championchip. Oregon and Ohio state wont stand a chance against SEC-teams anyways. Should be at least 5 SEC teams.
Other than the fact that winning a conference championship means more than losing a in the playoff, Kiffin is right. If the loser of the conference championship gets into the playoffs, they end up playing one more game than the non-champions and two more than the champions. Being the #3 team in your conference just gives you a bye a few weeks earlier. You're also getting a home game against what's likely to be a much easier opponent in the first round.
If you’ve had a weak schedule like Texas, and they lose, maybe they should be knocked out; but if you’ve had quality wins, you should stay in. The committee has to see that
So kinda like Georgia’s weak schedule last year? Then Georgia complained and cried that Bama got in the 4 team playoff with only one loss against Bama in the SEC Championship. Texas played who they played and they only have 1 loss. Luck of the draw but they’re still a nasty team prolly goin all the way
@@eggwardfr Texas destroyed Arkansas, blew out Florida which almost beat Georgia, blew out Mss State which Georgia also had trouble against. We’ve played the same teams everyone else has played this year and Texas has done way better. I’m not worried. All that talk gone come to an end come December. Hook em
I'm not sure you can blame Texas for having a "weak" schedule this year. They scheduled Michigan years ago, and this is Michigan's worst season in a decade. No one could have predicted that. They played OU, Florida, and Georiga. Again, OU's worst season in a decade isn't something anyone could have predicted, and Florida has been down. If you said you were playing Florida, OU, UGA, and Michigan in a season, almost no one would say that's a weak schedule. Things happen.
Why should the SEC only have 4 entrants? The object is to have the 12 best teams with each conference having some representation. This year SEC needs 5 for sure
Does a team deserve to be in playoffs if they have two losses and one of those is to an unranked team? Alabama Ole Miss Tennessee and TAM all have a real stinker loss on their resume...
They don’t care about strength of schedule as much as they care about number of losses, what does one think would be the result of that? All SEC teams would now want to play a weak schedule like Texas instead of a hard one like UGA.
I'm definitely in the minority but I do not like this new playoff system. They took what was unique about the sport and made it just like everything else. 4 team playoff is perfect. 12 team playoff is ridiculous.
@ I can see that. Me personally though, there’s not many years of college football where it feels like there are 8 teams up for debate as the best of team. Usually by the end we know who the best 3-4 teams are.
look at NCAA Basketball championship playoff bracket. NCAA Football should be setup like Basketball tournament. Rank don't really mean anything but network TV need that to justify 8-2 team to generate money for them.
@@MuhGlassRibs As of now, if Texas has 2 losses, they are ranked behind all other 2 loss SEC. Texas best win is by 3 points vs Vandy. Meanwhile, Bama has UGA and LSU. Tenn has Bama. Ole Miss has UGA. UGA has Tenn and Texas. A 2 loss texas would be behind them.
I hate these fools thinking that all conferences are equal compared to the SEC. Ish isnt even legit and truly wanting the best team in the nation to win
As a Texas fan its laughable watching the SEC fans move the goal post. Went from SEC schedule is too tough to Texas had an easy schedule. Tennessee couldnt beat Arkansas, Alabama couldnt beat Vandy. Are they trash? Oh, only wins count now? Yall will do anything but come to grips with the fact Texas is on track to be the SEC champ in year 1. Tears for all of you.
My fix for this is simply making it so that all rankings are finalized after the regular season. No new rankings after championship week. Then whatever happens in the conference games happens, and seedings are placed accordingly This way we would also not have to wait for another set of rankings to come out after the conference games and we would just know ourselves whether or not a team is in It would be completely objective after the regular season in terms of where teams seed after winning/ losing their conference championship game
He’s right cause if you lose your season is pretty much over that’s why these championships games are definitely about to be put on the back burner cause of the new playoff format with 12 teams
No, FSU was left out because their QB was out for the season. Injuries were part of the selection criteria, but look at me trying to convince someone who doesn't understand facts.
lmao fsu had a chance to show the committee they deserved to be in the playoff with the orange bowl but they fucked up. Please, I don't want to hear the "Oh, but FSU had so many opt outs" bs. Texas A&M, lost their entire roster to the portal and draft but they still managed to keep the big 12 runner up in check for almost the entire game. If 2023 FSU and 2023 Bama played, yeah, FSU would not stand a chance.
Conference championships are obsolete and about money the conference already spent. Injury attrition alone with a longer playoff season makes them too risky.
Happened to Georgia last year. Lost the SEC championship game to Alabama and were knocked out of the playoffs. First loss in three years and didn’t have the opportunity to defend a two time national championship.
10 years ago I would have ignored anything Coach Kiffin had to say. To be fair. 10 years later Coach Kiffin has grown on me; from his SEC eulogy (Coach Mike Leach); his comment about being fined for Ole Miss fans storming the field; comment about not answering a question, to honest, opposed to 10 years earlier and taking the bait and answering. I just like the guy. Not that it matters in his world, I just needed to publicly give him some credit - and please, I know zero about him other than his career trajectory.
no one was saying anything when usc lost its playoff bid a few years ago by losing in their championship game to an ohio state team who didnt even qualify for their championship game. had they not played that extra game they would have been the 4 seed and made the playoff. now that the extra game affects these conferences, they want to complain.
The difference in the Georgia situation last year when they lost to Bama is that Georgia wasn’t knocked out then replaced in the CFP with a team that was sitting at home during SEC championship game. All conference champs made the playoffs. Everyone is correct in their argument but comparing it to last year is not an apples to apples comparison.
This is the reality. The bye is not worth it. Who ever you play in the first round is going to be easier than the team you play in the SEC championship game
I’m an SEC fan & you can miss me (pun intended) with this BS all day. Winning the National Championship is really hard & it’s gross that teams who wouldn’t be in the playoff if it weren’t for the expanded field are complaining about having to play tough games. Never heard a single SEC Coach stand up there and offer to forego the benefits of being in the SEC as opposed to almost every other Conference. This is the same coach who was at the forefront of ABUSING the fact the officials would blindly stop the clock for perceived player injuries, even as they were clearly faked for tactical purposes thus prompting the Commissioner to publicly address the issue. STOP COMPLAINING & GO WIN GAMES, that’s the only way to get where you want to go.
So what’s the goal now? Win enough games to get an at large bid but not enough to make it to the conference championship game? Don’t bother trying to play for the conference championship if you have more than 1 loss by end of season
16 teams would be good for CFP. Top 6 conference champions plus 10 at large spots. Maybe the top 4 conference champions get a home game like the NFL. So at worst, a top 4 conference champion would be the 8 seed. And no penalties for losing the conference title game unless it's a blowout (over 20 points).
If you go to the championship, you skip a game. That game might be a little bit easier, but it's also back to back against harder games. Coaches just handicapping down to cover.
Only SEC fans think they’re teams are better than others. WIN THE GAMES ON YOUR SCHEDULE. LOSING doesn’t give you help. Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard that a 2 or 3 loss team deserves an automatic bid in a Playoff
Keep an eye out for which SEC teams are left out of the 12 team playoffs. If Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas or somehow all 3 are out, we will see a 16 team playoff next year.
Grow up Ole Miss. Last year GA was undefeated, lost the SEC championship game, didn't cry about it, shut up and went home. The SEC championship is harder to win than the national, so which is more important.
What if the conference championship games directly feed into the playoffs? Either they be the first round of the playoffs or the winner gets the bye and loser automatically is in the first round of the playoffs. We def need a 16-team playoff though.
This is shameful to have the sports media talk about long rooted tradition like having a conference champion not having meaning anymore because of a postseason playoff that was created from thin air in 2014 and later expanded in order to make more money. They speak for the people who get rich off this, not for the college football fanbase.
If you go to the SEC Championship, that game is your 1st round cfp game. In both cases, if you win then you go to the 2nd round of the cfp. In both cases, if you lose then you are out. Would you rather have your 1st round game against texas/texas a&m in Atlanta or at home vs like a BIG10/12 school? Definitely at home.
The SEC is only considered dominant because of two teams, Alabama and Georgia. Let's stop acting like in the past you can drop any other team from the SEC into any other conference and they'll dominate it. Point being Texas just came from the big 12 and they are currently first in the SEC
This is a consequence of having such a large playoff field. Championship games don't mean what they used to. You don't need a conference championship anymore to get in the playoff
The SEC should just create their own playoffs. I’m sure the viewers would love to see the Top 8 SEC teams beat on each other for 3 more weeks and then crown the winner “National Champions” 🙄
Schedules are made quit a bit in advance, sec made Texas schedule not Texas, Texas scheduled defending national champ on the road before knowing Harbaugh would leave and McCarthy etc... so I don't know about that, still beat Vandy, Bama didnt
Take both teams from each conference championship and 1 at large bid from each confrence and 1 at large bid to highest ranked independent school. 16 team playoff. Is it really that freaking hard???
Independent team like ND need to be in a conference. you can't walk into playoff without winning conference. if that the case all one at large from each conference should play ND?
I remember Bama getting in the championship game, even tho they didn’t play in the SEC championship, and Auburn did). The year Tua threw a bomb over our head…they shouldn’t have been there either. (Don’t get my wrong, Bamas always dangerous).
Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. Take care of business on the field and you don’t have to worry about three losses. Go to 16 teams or more. FCS does it and they’re fine
Lane Kiffin is the scourge of NCAA coaches. The got blown out of Tennessee, went to FAU, screwed them over ... long story now at Ole Miss. He'll move on the UF or something. It's disgusting to watch
There are so many flaws in this system, it's worse than the BCS. Just look at the top 10, Indiana, Penn St, Notre Dame, it's a serious joke. Little 12, ACC automatic bye, group of 5 must get in, no this system is seriously BAD!!
Hang on!!! This kind of stuff is getting on my nerves. As a sec guy I’m so sick of the media trying to portray a picture of perfection with its faults. For example, conference slogan, “it just means more!” How so? Now I 100% understand the logic behind what little kitten is saying. However, It doesn’t mean more if you bought your team and are too scared to compete for the highest honor of the conference. We have Sankey trying to pull stunts with pettiti for four spots at least guaranteed…. Huh!!!! WHAT WAS THE POINT OF EXTENDING THE PLAYOFF THEN! The sec is already better than the other conferences anyway. Show it on the field and get in. Also, maybe your a sec school that gets left out at 13. Wellll…… someone has to be left out. Screw more money for the conference to have 6 teams. We have opportunities to see the matchups every year. Let’s beat up on the other conferences that get in. Lastly, these clowns say the conference loser wouldn’t get in? BS! Alabama has gone without even going to the conference championship and Georgia has gone as a loser. Just want the sec to look tough like we used to and not keep trying to hide behind what the sports media who won’t say anything negative about us. What are we scared of?!!!
@@ld4974so say Bama goes, they’re the highest ranked 2 loss team at the time, and loses to Texas. What then? Punish them for having to play one more game than teams like Georgia (who they beat) or Ole Miss? And then what about Notre Dame? WHO doesn’t have to play in, let alone win a conference? How does that make sense?
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Playing in the SEC title game means you are one of the top 2 teams in SEC. That's how the committee should consider them.
Unless the 2nd best team is tied with 5 or 6 others, like this year. People who don't consider the SEC as the best conference in football (it's not even a discussion in reality) could care less about 2nd best--unless it's their team which ironically for the last 15 years is always the case.
More conference games
8-2 record should be out of playoff. PERIOD.
@@rpoosua3452dude be quiet. That would eliminate most of the 12 team playoff now. Just say you’re scared for these cupcake undefeated teams to get washed by the SEC teams lol. Just another TCU beatdown waiting to happen. Get over it
@@jrcrit8843 ever watched NCAA BB tournament? they never have drama like NCAA football playoff.
This is a result of all of these schools joining the same conference. Now you have unbalanced scheduling along with too many good teams playing in the same conference
Once the NIL became big business for schools. I knew college football would begin to model the NFL and its playoff system.
Facts
Yeah but its great for week to week TV for neutrals which is what matters the most to the execs
Didn’t the SEC create these conference championships?
Yeah 92 was the first ever ncaa conference title game fla vs Bama Bama won
yes now they crying ESPN is bias because the SEC is all they really have the same can be said by the Big Ten the tournament committee got it wrong a tournament with conference championship winners is the best way how can you call yourself a National Championship but cant win your conference
It was a cash grab in ‘92.
Yes but eons before the current landscape of football so it’s irrelevant
The SEC needs to do away with it
Other conferences need it more
Then Lane, don't drop a game to unranked Kentucky and you wouldn't have this problem. Easy.
Yep. A 3-6 kentucky to be exact
this makes zero sense tho. they win that game..lose in the sec, they still would drop in standings. yeah they might make it still but the loser of their respective conferences get punished. meanwhile 2 teams at home who didn’t qualify all of a sudden jump up
He’s not wrong. I mean look at Notre Dame being independent and not joining the conference. How is it fair for them skipping conference championship game to playoff while others conference teams have to risk for their conference championship game?
It shouldn't be a conference championship game anymore.
A lot of the 2 loss teams are very overrated right now. But Notre Dame losing to Northern Illinois should be automatic grounds for disqualification.
All the experts said ND needs to join a conference. Now they say they don’t want to play in their own conference championship games!🤔
ND playing chess while they play checkers!
I agree with @masonpalazzolo2387 about ND. ND should NOT be in playoff. I don't care if ND can generate money for TV or network. ND need to be in a conference.
This is such a stupid point. If there are four SEC teams with 2 losses going into Championship Saturday, at least two of those teams will be included in the playoff without having played in the conference championship game, just like ND.
If you're in before the championship game over a team that's not playing in the championship game then those teams not playing shouldn't be able to jump you
Exactly even if you lose
Yeah, I agree.
Yep! Those teams didn’t earn the right to a championship game also don’t earn the right to move ahead
Tell that to uga last year..who got screwed
Not worth the risk if the CFB Committee is gonna reward teams in your own conference that finished BELOW you with a playoff bid and you get left out. That makes zero sense. The SEC and Big 10 presidents should have never agreed to this format.
Yep, it’s a horrible trap being a 2 loss team and having to play in the conference championship.
I think if you make it to the championship game you should automatically get a playoff spot regardless if you win or lose. Obviously the winner gets the sweet end of it while the loser at least is guaranteed a spot. Even if you lose the championship game you should be ranked higher than the teams that didn’t make it…
Or the championship game should be a free game as in it has no effect on your ranking if you win/lose. You are still guaranteed your spot on the rankings.
@@saulescamilla3605doesn’t work that way kid. There are other teams with the same record that could easily be in the same conference title game. Simply put, given the circumstances, if you have 3 losses, you’re out. Simple
Make every conference declare a champion based on regular season standings. No need to play a championship game. Or make the playoff selection before the championship games. These are defacto games anyway.
Not every conference
The MAC, SBC, ACC, Big 12 and the other small conferences should keep it
SEC only needs to remove it and only the top of each division should matter
Great idea, but there’s a problem…💰💰💰
Make it a 100 team playoff jeez
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Just what I have been saying. Why not go to 32 teams or 64 or 132 team CFP... Oh yeah, we had that and too many people were whining. It was called the CFB season.
don't care for kiffin, but he's right. the players should be objecting too for the unnecessary wear and tear on their bodies.
Lane is very mediocre.
I thought your goal was to win the SEC Championship.
Both teams in the SEC title game will be in …. Bet the house on that
Ummm if several teams end up 10-2 by the end of the season and the loser of the SEC title game ends up 10-3, that loser will be dropped out of the playoffs in favor of the other SEC teams that didn’t lose an extra game. It already happened last year with UGA after they lost the SEC title last year. They went from #1 to #6 after losing to Bama. It doesn’t matter what you think. It matters what the committee thinks
SEC fans are now using the word "deserve" but a year ago and other prior years, it was the "best" teams
They deserve bc they are the best teams?
Such a dumb comment. If you’re the best 4 you deserve to be in instead of teams that aren’t the best. It was supposed to be the best 4, not the 4 teams with best records.
They STILL are the best teams.
It’s a difference between 4 teams vs 12 team or can yall not count in the Big 10
@antmansales do the best teams lose to Vandy Arkansas and Kentucky 🤔
This is loser mentality no way Kirby Smart is thinking like that.
Anything could happen I agree conference champ and runner up should be automatically in
Nobody said he was lol
As a georgia fan i want that 2024 SEC-Championchip.
Oregon and Ohio state wont stand a chance against SEC-teams anyways. Should be at least 5 SEC teams.
Exactly! I can guarantee the likes of Kalen, Kirby and Josh aren’t thinking like this. Lane is talking utter nonsense.
Other than the fact that winning a conference championship means more than losing a in the playoff, Kiffin is right. If the loser of the conference championship gets into the playoffs, they end up playing one more game than the non-champions and two more than the champions. Being the #3 team in your conference just gives you a bye a few weeks earlier. You're also getting a home game against what's likely to be a much easier opponent in the first round.
If you’ve had a weak schedule like Texas, and they lose, maybe they should be knocked out; but if you’ve had quality wins, you should stay in. The committee has to see that
So kinda like Georgia’s weak schedule last year? Then Georgia complained and cried that Bama got in the 4 team playoff with only one loss against Bama in the SEC Championship. Texas played who they played and they only have 1 loss. Luck of the draw but they’re still a nasty team prolly goin all the way
@@QuarterNickelDime-ti6vpTexas sucks they can't blow out terrible teams. Their one challenge they didn't even show up
@@eggwardfr Texas destroyed Arkansas, blew out Florida which almost beat Georgia, blew out Mss State which Georgia also had trouble against. We’ve played the same teams everyone else has played this year and Texas has done way better. I’m not worried. All that talk gone come to an end come December. Hook em
@@eggwardfr”Texas can’t blow out terrible teams” yet they blew out almost their entire schedule 😂😂
I'm not sure you can blame Texas for having a "weak" schedule this year. They scheduled Michigan years ago, and this is Michigan's worst season in a decade. No one could have predicted that. They played OU, Florida, and Georiga. Again, OU's worst season in a decade isn't something anyone could have predicted, and Florida has been down. If you said you were playing Florida, OU, UGA, and Michigan in a season, almost no one would say that's a weak schedule. Things happen.
Conference champ and runner up should make the playoffs a team setting at home pulling on it shouldn't prosper from one of the best two teams losing
like 8-2 team should not be in playoff regard less how much money they can generate for network TV.
Why should the SEC only have 4 entrants? The object is to have the 12 best teams with each conference having some representation. This year SEC needs 5 for sure
Does a team deserve to be in playoffs if they have two losses and one of those is to an unranked team? Alabama Ole Miss Tennessee and TAM all have a real stinker loss on their resume...
That’s the implication of the committee not caring about quality losses.
They don’t care about strength of schedule as much as they care about number of losses, what does one think would be the result of that? All SEC teams would now want to play a weak schedule like Texas instead of a hard one like UGA.
I'm definitely in the minority but I do not like this new playoff system. They took what was unique about the sport and made it just like everything else. 4 team playoff is perfect. 12 team playoff is ridiculous.
8 is perfect. 5 conference champs and 3 at large. 4 was a disaster
@ I can see that. Me personally though, there’s not many years of college football where it feels like there are 8 teams up for debate as the best of team. Usually by the end we know who the best 3-4 teams are.
@@BaderAaron true but last year had more than 4.
look at NCAA Basketball championship playoff bracket. NCAA Football should be setup like Basketball tournament. Rank don't really mean anything but network TV need that to justify 8-2 team to generate money for them.
If Texas loses the SEC championship they are done they haven’t beaten anyone 😂
They'll get in off name alone. The CFP is a tv show. No way 2 loss Texas stays house.
Texas is a big name. they will get in
@@MuhGlassRibs As of now, if Texas has 2 losses, they are ranked behind all other 2 loss SEC. Texas best win is by 3 points vs Vandy. Meanwhile, Bama has UGA and LSU. Tenn has Bama. Ole Miss has UGA. UGA has Tenn and Texas. A 2 loss texas would be behind them.
Agreed, as a horns fan, we have to win out, and our offense isn’t doing any favors with ewers being the equivalent of a deer facing headlights
@@DL-fl5ulVandy has defeated Alabama.
I hate these fools thinking that all conferences are equal compared to the SEC. Ish isnt even legit and truly wanting the best team in the nation to win
Good lord, we have turned our entire world into taking the easy way out and not competing.
I really appreciate this segment where everyone was able to talk rationally without purposely arguing just for the sake of clicks.
As a Texas fan its laughable watching the SEC fans move the goal post. Went from SEC schedule is too tough to Texas had an easy schedule. Tennessee couldnt beat Arkansas, Alabama couldnt beat Vandy. Are they trash? Oh, only wins count now? Yall will do anything but come to grips with the fact Texas is on track to be the SEC champ in year 1. Tears for all of you.
Gotta beat A&M and Bama to do it, ain’t gonna happen.
@WestBeachFLboy and when Texas does it, SEC fans will still be making excuses.
No one is knocked out of your in the top 12 and make the conference champ game stop… they don’t deserve to be punished from it
My fix for this is simply making it so that all rankings are finalized after the regular season. No new rankings after championship week. Then whatever happens in the conference games happens, and seedings are placed accordingly
This way we would also not have to wait for another set of rankings to come out after the conference games and we would just know ourselves whether or not a team is in
It would be completely objective after the regular season in terms of where teams seed after winning/ losing their conference championship game
The AP have to spread the love and have teams like Indiana, BYU, Penn St ranked very high, everything cant be about the SEC
He’s right cause if you lose your season is pretty much over that’s why these championships games are definitely about to be put on the back burner cause of the new playoff format with 12 teams
Florida State had a 13-0 and didn’t even get a chance to play just to keep the SEC in. So many teams have gotten screwed over by SEC bias.
SEC earned that bias.
If that was the case then Georgia and Bama would have got in last year. The Sec is the best conference hands down
No, FSU was left out because their QB was out for the season. Injuries were part of the selection criteria, but look at me trying to convince someone who doesn't understand facts.
When you dominate, its NOT bias, look at Florida St & Michigan now, very sad
lmao fsu had a chance to show the committee they deserved to be in the playoff with the orange bowl but they fucked up. Please, I don't want to hear the "Oh, but FSU had so many opt outs" bs. Texas A&M, lost their entire roster to the portal and draft but they still managed to keep the big 12 runner up in check for almost the entire game. If 2023 FSU and 2023 Bama played, yeah, FSU would not stand a chance.
Conference championships are obsolete and about money the conference already spent. Injury attrition alone with a longer playoff season makes them too risky.
Such a beta mindset. Go and win. Well, what if we lose that means you not the best go home. How many chances do you want. Such a stupid thought
Happened to Georgia last year. Lost the SEC championship game to Alabama and were knocked out of the playoffs. First loss in three years and didn’t have the opportunity to defend a two time national championship.
this just means the playoffs start early. Just win and quit crying
Yep only the losers cry like a baby!
The B10 is very DISAPPOINTING, the league is very WEAK!
10 years ago I would have ignored anything Coach Kiffin had to say. To be fair. 10 years later Coach Kiffin has grown on me; from his SEC eulogy (Coach Mike Leach); his comment about being fined for Ole Miss fans storming the field; comment about not answering a question, to honest, opposed to 10 years earlier and taking the bait and answering. I just like the guy. Not that it matters in his world, I just needed to publicly give him some credit - and please, I know zero about him other than his career trajectory.
The risk is not worth the reward. 👍🏈🏆
no one was saying anything when usc lost its playoff bid a few years ago by losing in their championship game to an ohio state team who didnt even qualify for their championship game. had they not played that extra game they would have been the 4 seed and made the playoff. now that the extra game affects these conferences, they want to complain.
The difference in the Georgia situation last year when they lost to Bama is that Georgia wasn’t knocked out then replaced in the CFP with a team that was sitting at home during SEC championship game. All conference champs made the playoffs. Everyone is correct in their argument but comparing it to last year is not an apples to apples comparison.
This is the reality. The bye is not worth it. Who ever you play in the first round is going to be easier than the team you play in the SEC championship game
I’m an SEC fan & you can miss me (pun intended) with this BS all day. Winning the National Championship is really hard & it’s gross that teams who wouldn’t be in the playoff if it weren’t for the expanded field are complaining about having to play tough games. Never heard a single SEC Coach stand up there and offer to forego the benefits of being in the SEC as opposed to almost every other Conference. This is the same coach who was at the forefront of ABUSING the fact the officials would blindly stop the clock for perceived player injuries, even as they were clearly faked for tactical purposes thus prompting the Commissioner to publicly address the issue. STOP COMPLAINING & GO WIN GAMES, that’s the only way to get where you want to go.
Let’s just bring back the BCS system/formula and send the top 12 teams to the playoffs.
which formua, cuz historically the BCS system changed 9 times....
Let just do it like Basketball tournaments. Wouldn't it be nice a Cinderella team upset rank team?
So what’s the goal now? Win enough games to get an at large bid but not enough to make it to the conference championship game? Don’t bother trying to play for the conference championship if you have more than 1 loss by end of season
look @ ND didn't win conference but get in the playoff.
16 teams would be good for CFP. Top 6 conference champions plus 10 at large spots. Maybe the top 4 conference champions get a home game like the NFL. So at worst, a top 4 conference champion would be the 8 seed. And no penalties for losing the conference title game unless it's a blowout (over 20 points).
If you go to the championship, you skip a game. That game might be a little bit easier, but it's also back to back against harder games. Coaches just handicapping down to cover.
Give them 4 teams but if they lay an egg and b10 wins back to back championships than the big10 is the new big dog.
Only SEC fans think they’re teams are better than others. WIN THE GAMES ON YOUR SCHEDULE. LOSING doesn’t give you help. Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard that a 2 or 3 loss team deserves an automatic bid in a Playoff
Every 2 loss sec team and several 3 loss teams are ALL better than Boise state..
This is easy to say when you play like one good team all year in the big ten lol
Keep an eye out for which SEC teams are left out of the 12 team playoffs.
If Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas or somehow all 3 are out, we will see a 16 team playoff next year.
We’re not even a full season in and coaches are already complaining about the system.
Grow up Ole Miss. Last year GA was undefeated, lost the SEC championship game, didn't cry about it, shut up and went home. The SEC championship is harder to win than the national, so which is more important.
If conferences don’t matter then get rid of em
What if the conference championship games directly feed into the playoffs? Either they be the first round of the playoffs or the winner gets the bye and loser automatically is in the first round of the playoffs. We def need a 16-team playoff though.
They are overlooking that Texas also has their work cut out to beat Kentucky. Don’t jump ahead to A&M.
This is shameful to have the sports media talk about long rooted tradition like having a conference champion not having meaning anymore because of a postseason playoff that was created from thin air in 2014 and later expanded in order to make more money. They speak for the people who get rich off this, not for the college football fanbase.
Just have the both teams that make the conference championship make the playoff
He is not wrong but they should just make it based on Wins 1st
And you get a half win for making it to the championship
If you go to the SEC Championship, that game is your 1st round cfp game. In both cases, if you win then you go to the 2nd round of the cfp. In both cases, if you lose then you are out. Would you rather have your 1st round game against texas/texas a&m in Atlanta or at home vs like a BIG10/12 school? Definitely at home.
The SEC is only considered dominant because of two teams, Alabama and Georgia. Let's stop acting like in the past you can drop any other team from the SEC into any other conference and they'll dominate it. Point being Texas just came from the big 12 and they are currently first in the SEC
Mannnn I've always said that a 6-team playoff is the sweet spot
should go to a 13 game season with 10 conference games, then straight to the national playoffs with no conference championship game
Simple solution. Make the conference championships after the playoffs
And.....here.....we.......go!
Texas and Tennessee had virtually the same SEC schedule.
I don’t think a team would be excluded for losing a 3rd time i. The conference finals
Should be 8 teams
🤔 I think they should get rid of the last two games and start a play in tournament at the end of the year. 🤷🏿♂️
This is a consequence of having such a large playoff field. Championship games don't mean what they used to. You don't need a conference championship anymore to get in the playoff
like ND....
Lane doesn't need to worry about it this year !!
The SEC should just create their own playoffs. I’m sure the viewers would love to see the Top 8 SEC teams beat on each other for 3 more weeks and then crown the winner “National Champions” 🙄
Schedules are made quit a bit in advance, sec made Texas schedule not Texas, Texas scheduled defending national champ on the road before knowing Harbaugh would leave and McCarthy etc... so I don't know about that, still beat Vandy, Bama didnt
Playing in the SEC championship automatically gets you in the PLAYOFF!!! LAST YEAR WAS 4 TEAMS
no. handle your business. don’t be in a “lose & out” situation.
Take both teams from each conference championship and 1 at large bid from each confrence and 1 at large bid to highest ranked independent school. 16 team playoff. Is it really that freaking hard???
Independent team like ND need to be in a conference. you can't walk into playoff without winning conference. if that the case all one at large from each conference should play ND?
@rpoosua3452 I agree. Independent bs needs to be over with
They should win out and This wouldn’t be a problem
While we're at it, why not eliminate the CFP, too, and go back to bowls and polls?
Even with a bye you still playing the same number of games counting the championship game.
These are there options take a 3 lose sec them and beat a 11-1 team from big 10.
SEC are Embarrassed if they lose in the playoff to Acc, Big 10 and etc...
Somebody explain Paul’s statements at 5:06
It seems really simple to me. If you can’t make your conference championship you shouldn’t be in the playoffs.
What a weight lifted off Finebaums' shoulder to hear S.A.S say he was right. Whew. Here i was thinking he might be wrong.
The new college playoffs are garbage. NCAA just wants to make college football the NFL…
I remember Bama getting in the championship game, even tho they didn’t play in the SEC championship, and Auburn did). The year Tua threw a bomb over our head…they shouldn’t have been there either. (Don’t get my wrong, Bamas always dangerous).
Trust me they will find a way to have 4 sec teams in the playoff
Excellent jacket.
Everyone wants to have their cake and eat it too. Take care of business on the field and you don’t have to worry about three losses. Go to 16 teams or more. FCS does it and they’re fine
Lane Kiffin is the scourge of NCAA coaches. The got blown out of Tennessee, went to FAU, screwed them over ... long story now at Ole Miss. He'll move on the UF or something. It's disgusting to watch
Finebaum's getting a little too excited about the 2-loss SEC mayhem at the end of the season.
There are so many flaws in this system, it's worse than the BCS. Just look at the top 10, Indiana, Penn St, Notre Dame, it's a serious joke. Little 12, ACC automatic bye, group of 5 must get in, no this system is seriously BAD!!
ONCE YOU SAY THE GAMES DONT MATTER THE GAMES STOP MATTERING.
Hang on!!! This kind of stuff is getting on my nerves. As a sec guy I’m so sick of the media trying to portray a picture of perfection with its faults. For example, conference slogan, “it just means more!”
How so? Now I 100% understand the logic behind what little kitten is saying. However, It doesn’t mean more if you bought your team and are too scared to compete for the highest honor of the conference.
We have Sankey trying to pull stunts with pettiti for four spots at least guaranteed…. Huh!!!! WHAT WAS THE POINT OF EXTENDING THE PLAYOFF THEN! The sec is already better than the other conferences anyway. Show it on the field and get in. Also, maybe your a sec school that gets left out at 13. Wellll…… someone has to be left out. Screw more money for the conference to have 6 teams. We have opportunities to see the matchups every year. Let’s beat up on the other conferences that get in.
Lastly, these clowns say the conference loser wouldn’t get in? BS! Alabama has gone without even going to the conference championship and Georgia has gone as a loser.
Just want the sec to look tough like we used to and not keep trying to hide behind what the sports media who won’t say anything negative about us. What are we scared of?!!!
A three loss sec team should get in over an undefeated Indiana or byu.
Next year SEC needs 4 team mini playoff and the two winners square off on championship Saturday
Huh?
Just make the playoffs all SEC teams, seems like that's what everybody wants haha.
$EC teams are at the point where they think they deserve to be in the CFP simply because their jerseys have that logo on them
Both teams in the SEC championship Should be in.
No team with 3 losses should be in.
@@ld4974 unless it's so Carolina
@ld4974 yes this year that's true because the SEC has evened out but for the most part every year the SEC championship game has 2 undefeated teams.
@@ld4974so say Bama goes, they’re the highest ranked 2 loss team at the time, and loses to Texas. What then? Punish them for having to play one more game than teams like Georgia (who they beat) or Ole Miss? And then what about Notre Dame? WHO doesn’t have to play in, let alone win a conference? How does that make sense?
@@marlymarlle I don't ever recall the SEC championship having two undefeated teams.
Imagine not wanting to play for a championship! Disgraceful. Don’t lose to Kentucky at home!
Get rid of conference championship games then…
Who cares stop crying
You care that why you watched
@ yup I watch car wrecks to
@@GiftedDee explains a lot about you.
Just set the field before the champ games