It feels like normalizing abuse and male violence agianst women AND ALSO weird girlboss rhetoric that pretends to be feminist by denying DV as the serious trauma inducing thing that it is... I dunno the vibes are very condescending to me.
No it’s not acceptable, but to be fair, the stats are that 1 in 4 women do experience some form of DV in their lives. I don’t think that calling it the full spectrum of the female experience was a good way to put it but I understand what the point was. I don’t defend Blake’s weirdness and rudeness, and out of touch behaviors during this press tour but I think it’s been really blown out of proportion. I think so many celebrities are dumb and out of touch we just don’t know all about
Not only that SHE WAS A PRACTICING SOCIAL WORKER 💀 imagine all the people who’s lives she’s probably ruined with her whole “oh well he’s the biological father so sure he physically and sexually abused you but you have to let your kid see him, it’s the LAW” when it’s literally untrue
@IntrovertedPrincess Where did this woman used to work?? sad i'm not surprised, social workers when I was a kid in a ED hospital wrote us up like criminals. you & ur roommate could talk about bras and a nurse would write you up for sexual harassment like we weren't actual children & nothing was sexual. lot of fing weirdos in that field
It haunts me that so many legitimately evil people have become social workers and completely destroyed the profession for people who take it insanely seriously, as you should.
Also how is Ryan Reynolds even remotely involved in all this? They were trying for this to be a Barbenheimer thing with deadpool, but ended up making Spitgate 2 instead lol
@@ruminationstation4200I’m honestly so upset the WGA hasn’t kicked him out yet. He should never be allowed to work on a union project - aka every big Hollywood production out there - ever again. There’s no excuse for being a scab when you’ve got so much money.
@@ruminationstation4200 ikr! and the fact that blake was so smug saying "nobody knows ryan changed some of the scenes up until now ahaha" . like i knew the adaption was a disaster to begin with but atleast justin is doing something to bring light to sensitive issues like dv. i dont blame him choosing to not interact with the rest of the cast tbh
I feel bad for Justin. Tried to make a good movie and in return has to deal with a spoiled entitled Hollywood power couple. Shame on B&R - what a-holes they are.
she seems to be someone who just throws in SUPER heavy topics that deserve the light and deserve being dismantled and explained and deserve deep dives - and then she does nothing with them. she just throws them in to be...???? sexy? it feels gross to even write that. i feel it's a privilege of women like her and blake to look at abuse and think it's sexy, while the rest of us who have lived through, not just ONE experience with abuse, but sometimes a LIFETIME of abuse - it comes across as so tone deaf because people's lives are completely ruined by abuse, but colleen and blake, from their privileged platforms are like "wear florals! girls night! peace sign!" ugh.
@@INeverMetaphorIDidntLike not as bad, but another author I feel like does this is Abby Jimenez. I read Just For the Summer because everyone on Booktube was raving about it. It sounded like a fun beachy read, with some family drama, but instead it came off to me as two books shoved together: one that was a fun, summer romance, and the other about family trauma in so many forms. I will say she had some trigger warnings but the marketing for it would have you believe they’re sprinkled in there, not the whole plot essentially. I’ve heard that she does that in most of her books so I will be staying away 😅 not for me.
I was so upset when I found out z library got taken down bc I ALLEGEDLY used it for MANY of my college textbooks... now I have another reason to dislike CoHo
Bestie libgendotli has it too (ima delete this once you reply so it’s not taken down. Just replace the dot with an actual . And you should be good to go. Also z Lib has a new domain ending in .rs
@@NyraLibertbasically he went and rewrote the rooftop scene during the strike For context during the writers strike you cannot work on any movies unless the scripts are finalized, like no edits can be made So he rewrote the scene BUT the actual writer came out after Blake revealed this info and admitted they had no idea that Reynolds even worked on the scene. But he wasn’t credited as a writer Basically he took over a writers job and got away with it, during a writers strike no less Hope this helps!
@@NyraLibert i think the scene was really good, but from what i understand, him working on a script during writers' strike was like a blow in the face to all writers. Because they are striking for fair working conditions and pays, and he just decides to ignore that and write the scene. If thats what happened, then it's really disrespectful to all the writers. Please someone correct me if im wrong.
blake has suuuuuuch manic and chaotic energy in all the interviews. I've never seen her so seemingly nervous and uncomfortable. i feel like she knows she's not addressing what's important and she knows she's effing justin over and she's trying desperately to outrun everything by running her mouth. i used to LOVE her and ryan, and after the last few years of them both behaving like this and ESPECIALLY after this whole thing with justin - they both just feel SOOOO icky
Agree. And it seems they thought nothing of working to ruin Justin's reputation. 'We didn't get our way so let's destroy the person with balls to stand up to us.' What horrible people!
the difference between E.L. James and Colleen Hoover is that the fifty shades is smut, with a very problematic male main character and erika leonard knows it, but colleen really thinks her 6th-grade-level texts are empowering.
I’m also disappointed that from what I heard (I don’t plan on watching the movie) but the movie didn’t even have any trigger warnings before or after??? So anyone who went to watch who truly went into this movie blind with past trauma was probably triggered and I feel so so sorry.
In one of the interviews Blake did she mentions how she's very involved in Ryan's projects and vice versa, and that just put up a red flag for me. There are numerous people hired to work on a project, but she thinks so highly of herself to think her opinions and point of view are always needed. It really reflects, to me, the level of overstepping she very likely did on the It Ends With Us movie.
I like the way Baldoni chose to promote considering the content. It seems like Lively and Baldoni were both passionate and both had a vision for the film but ultimately creative differences is no reason to be antagonistic toward each other. Lively also loses points for me because she couldn't muster up one compliment for Justin Boldoni when he could say all those positive things about her, he comes off more proffessional and smart that way. Blake Lively does know how tthe entertainment industry works and I think she just desperately wanted the movie to do well and she seems to be very involved in all her projects. This could have been handled better, clearly, now both of them are taking heat.
All she had to do was take the book, and make the merch go to dv survivors and make resources. She would have made money and her PR would have been good
Im Not sure about the us, but in germany there are orgs where you can report your abuse without taking legal action. Its so you have documented proof of the abuse in case you need it later/want to take legal Action later on. A friend of mine used it to get her ex husband to sign the divorce paper
As someone who read early colleen hoover books in middle school (10 years ago damn) and i just remember finding her books to be very focused on the suffering of the main characters to make the romance more poignant, i.e. trauma porn. In some of her books that leads to interesting backstories but often it's just exaggerated and not handled well at all. For example, in Slammed the female main character's dad dies suddenly, but the mom actually has cancer so she dies too, leaving the female MC alone to raise her primary school age brother. The male MC already lost both of his parents in a car accident and has been taking care of his younger brother ever since, making the MCs perfect for each other (except the male MC is the female MCs teacher, but you know they are destined to be together by their suffering)
Justin did an amazing job at bringing awareness to domestic violence abuse. It's a very real and important issue !! Not a romantic movie but real life drama!!
I'm so glad I found your video, because I had heard about controversy but never read the books or watched the movie and I did not want to need to. Now I have some things I can actually use to ask my friends why they think these things are okay.
It sounds like the author has some latent masochistic traits and she decided to write some bad 80s Mills and Boon "romance" novel that doesn't fly in the 21st century since men who "treat you mean to keep you keen" are seen for the abusive douchebags they are and there is a lower tolerance for those situations being romanticised. Seems like the dv aspect was more of an afterthought despite saying the book is supposed to be some sort of a survivor's tale. Could be wrong though 🤷♀️
All I'm thinking is 'big yikes,' and I won't be watching this movie or reading the book. I don't believe it's about taking sides; it's about observing what we're given from both parties and making rational discernments. From what I see, Justin is nothing like what people depict him to be, and authenticity is something you can't fake. Also he isn't the one trying to sell me shampoo or a coloring book, the most he's promoted was the 'No More' foundation which helped them with the film and he also shared resources to help DV victims. On the other hand, the dude who played Atlas always seems uncomfortable, like he's being held hostage or something. Whenever Blake is talking, he awkwardly drinks whatever's in his hand and doesn't really say anything. If we take a look at Blake, she is actively dodging questions, acting aloof, and forgetting the subject matter, making it all about her and her outfits. I really do believe she thought she was having her 'Margot Robbie' moment, and that's what has ruined everything for everyone here. Decorum and grace are the means by which I believe Justin has decided to handle things, all while maintaining his integrity. But I really think Blake may be trying to tank his career over this. Overall, all of this has given me the ick, and I'll be watching more of Justin Baldoni's stuff because he just feels more real. I have no hate for anyone here; it's just that the weird PR and smear campaigns aren't it for me.
hi opiniyon. i am reaching out to request a Deep Dive of Anna Marie Tedler's memoir. i feel that CMBC was paid to call it bad. i need a youtuber to critically analyze it because i'm so invested in her journey as an artist.
I feel like I don’t really *get* to have an opinion on coho since I haven’t read any of her books. idk if I want to read any based on everything I’ve heard tho 💀
Okay yeah enjoy what you want but the fanbase of coho are so twisted, I cant like her books aren't that good chill. Go read Better than the movies and then talk to me. Not saying that book is far more superior but at least it's interesting like be fr
Nahhh Wattpad was gold in comparison to Ms. Hoover to literary history. A blessing, if you will, to the media literate world. Not the same level at all.
The whole It Ends With Us Toxcity started with Colleen Hoover. Colleen Hoover doesn't seem to take DV seriously by the way she marketed her book. She marketed to tweens and teens in florals, coloring books, and without Trigger Warnings and age appropriateness. How irresponsible and misleading.
13:21 this is false, Z library was not taken down because of "CoHo fans". It had already been under investigation and a different author (Sarina Bowen) was actually the one who reported/submitted a complaint. Colleen Hoover already publically stated on Facebook that she supported college students getting free books on Zlib and would not have conspired to take it down.
I don't understand you people whats bad in a traumatic past of a character,i mean how are you even gonna enjoy a romance book without any rollercoasters,do you expect a sweet smooth flowy happy happy books for romance?!
Well, trashing all her books without having even read one of them doesn‘t seem really fair to me. It‘s absolutely ok not liking them, but you can‘t form an opinion only reading snippets or what people write on the internet. BUT I do completly agree the way they promoted the movie is completly wrong. I‘m a 100% on Justin‘s side on this one.
Sorry as a black author I don’t care about race. I care about substance. I don’t “look for myself” in the characters I read. I actively seek out characters who are complex and multifaceted. It shouldn’t matter about diversity when you are reading a book. A show or a movie is a different story. Sincerely a South African woman who hates Coleen Hoover 😂
I hear you, but diverse stories often lead to new and interesting ideas. Without diversity things tend to grow stale, which seems to be why so many people have a bone to pick with Colleen Hoover. It's not just the fact that her characters are white, but that the stories themselves are stale, formulaic, and homogenous. I would also argue that the diversity of characters is in some cases important for realism. It Ends With Us is set in Boston, which is a super diverse city, so it is actually weird that there aren't any characters of color in the story.
Don't care about the drama, people should be worried that young women are so enamored of this woman's books, because it seems to me that she's sending problematic messages about relationships between men and women
Complaining about diversity not being present in a book is pretty dumb. I couldn't care less if they don't include a LGBTQ, latino, black, asian, etc. And I'm latino. I don't think that should be a complaint at all in any type of art. It's the author vision of their characters and it shouldn't be forced. However, the rest of your critique its well founded. Congrats on that, but reading the book would be the right step to make a critique about that.
As a chronic reader, I have stopped reading books because too many of them are similar to Colleen Hoover's books, everything on bookshelves are corn and abuse
I’ve literally never seen anyone get “hate” who spoke badly about Colleen Hoovers books. It’s the main opinion right now, don’t act like this is a niche opinion. It’s the in thing to hate on her right now. I agree with the controversy about the marketing of both the book and the movie - that’s it tho. I’ve read her books from the ages of 14-16 and they have majorly changed my perspective on some things. I’ve gained so much empathy for women in abusive relationships through reading it ends with us. The selectivity of what’s hated right now is so weird to me. There are so many badly written books in this genre that don’t get nearly as much criticism as hers. For what it is, these books have obviously struck a nerve with a lot of people, sparked the love for reading again and been a part of their teenage years. They aren’t ground breaking literature and some aspects do deserve critique but as usual on the internet everyone (who like you hasn’t even read her books?!) jumps on the hate train and I think that’s not deserved. A lot of this is merely speculation, nitpicking of a few single expressions and for what?
Maybe we're just in different internet circles, but people absolutely get hate from the Colleen Hoover fanbase. Her books are kind of like SJM books, where criticism isn't rare by any means, but the fanbase of said books is absolutely rabid. And while I agree that sometimes people are a bit too quick to jump on a hate train, this doesn't feel like that kind of a video? She's addressing the controversies surrounding Colleen Hoover, yes, but isn't dunking on the author or those who like her stuff.
On a separate note I'm glad that you personally got a lot out of this book, but there are plenty of people who feel the opposite, and their thoughts are just as valid as yours. Sure there are other crappy books in this genre, but as of now there are none that are as high profile as Colleen Hoover's. That's why the criticism feels disproportionate. It Ends With Us literally sold more copies than the Bible. And like anything else that gets super popular and is of questionable quality (take Fifty Shades or The Da Vinci Code), it's gonna take a lot of heat along with the love. That's not to say you're wrong for liking the book, it just means it's divisive, and that's fine. Oftentimes divisive books increase sales so I doubt Colleen has heartache over it.
"their baby died cuz they were laughing at his balls" man I can't wait to see what historians do with this one
LEKDKFJFNFND IM CRYING LMAO
'this movie is about the full spectrum of the female experience'
Really shows how out of touch Blake is.
It feels like normalizing abuse and male violence agianst women AND ALSO weird girlboss rhetoric that pretends to be feminist by denying DV as the serious trauma inducing thing that it is... I dunno the vibes are very condescending to me.
Yeah, if anything the Barbie movie was more about the full spectrum of the female experience than IEWU is
No it’s not acceptable, but to be fair, the stats are that 1 in 4 women do experience some form of DV in their lives. I don’t think that calling it the full spectrum of the female experience was a good way to put it but I understand what the point was. I don’t defend Blake’s weirdness and rudeness, and out of touch behaviors during this press tour but I think it’s been really blown out of proportion. I think so many celebrities are dumb and out of touch we just don’t know all about
I am HORRIFIED that this woman studied SOCIAL WORK
Not only that SHE WAS A PRACTICING SOCIAL WORKER 💀 imagine all the people who’s lives she’s probably ruined with her whole “oh well he’s the biological father so sure he physically and sexually abused you but you have to let your kid see him, it’s the LAW” when it’s literally untrue
@IntrovertedPrincess Where did this woman used to work?? sad i'm not surprised, social workers when I was a kid in a ED hospital wrote us up like criminals. you & ur roommate could talk about bras and a nurse would write you up for sexual harassment like we weren't actual children & nothing was sexual. lot of fing weirdos in that field
It haunts me that so many legitimately evil people have become social workers and completely destroyed the profession for people who take it insanely seriously, as you should.
yeah i'm also horrified about it but also it's so exemplary of lots of people's (me included) negative experiences with social workers
Its soooo common with people like her. Very sad. The future of the world is at hand. She needed to heal her...not try to heal others. SMH
Also how is Ryan Reynolds even remotely involved in all this? They were trying for this to be a Barbenheimer thing with deadpool, but ended up making Spitgate 2 instead lol
Imagine crossing the picket line for a COLLEEN HOOVER movie.
@@ruminationstation4200I’m honestly so upset the WGA hasn’t kicked him out yet. He should never be allowed to work on a union project - aka every big Hollywood production out there - ever again. There’s no excuse for being a scab when you’ve got so much money.
@@ruminationstation4200 ikr! and the fact that blake was so smug saying "nobody knows ryan changed some of the scenes up until now ahaha" . like i knew the adaption was a disaster to begin with but atleast justin is doing something to bring light to sensitive issues like dv. i dont blame him choosing to not interact with the rest of the cast tbh
I feel bad for Justin. Tried to make a good movie and in return has to deal with a spoiled entitled Hollywood power couple. Shame on B&R - what a-holes they are.
like this press run just confirms the fact no Colleen Hoover book should be made into a movie at all.
she seems to be someone who just throws in SUPER heavy topics that deserve the light and deserve being dismantled and explained and deserve deep dives - and then she does nothing with them. she just throws them in to be...???? sexy? it feels gross to even write that. i feel it's a privilege of women like her and blake to look at abuse and think it's sexy, while the rest of us who have lived through, not just ONE experience with abuse, but sometimes a LIFETIME of abuse - it comes across as so tone deaf because people's lives are completely ruined by abuse, but colleen and blake, from their privileged platforms are like "wear florals! girls night! peace sign!" ugh.
@@INeverMetaphorIDidntLike not as bad, but another author I feel like does this is Abby Jimenez. I read Just For the Summer because everyone on Booktube was raving about it. It sounded like a fun beachy read, with some family drama, but instead it came off to me as two books shoved together: one that was a fun, summer romance, and the other about family trauma in so many forms. I will say she had some trigger warnings but the marketing for it would have you believe they’re sprinkled in there, not the whole plot essentially. I’ve heard that she does that in most of her books so I will be staying away 😅 not for me.
I was so upset when I found out z library got taken down bc I ALLEGEDLY used it for MANY of my college textbooks... now I have another reason to dislike CoHo
Bestie libgendotli has it too (ima delete this once you reply so it’s not taken down. Just replace the dot with an actual . And you should be good to go. Also z Lib has a new domain ending in .rs
I became aware of who Colleen Hoover was since the Z library thing and I took it personally. Turns out it was just the tip of the iceberg
1:32 she was a teacher??? Her first book is about a teacher student relationship!!!! JAIL!!!
blake lively really wanted a barbie moment and it’s so obvious
the fact that ryan reynolds allegedly crossed the line during the writers strike to rewrite the rooftop scene….
Wait what?
Care to elaborate?
@@NyraLibertbasically he went and rewrote the rooftop scene during the strike
For context during the writers strike you cannot work on any movies unless the scripts are finalized, like no edits can be made
So he rewrote the scene BUT the actual writer came out after Blake revealed this info and admitted they had no idea that Reynolds even worked on the scene. But he wasn’t credited as a writer
Basically he took over a writers job and got away with it, during a writers strike no less
Hope this helps!
@@panicfvx did he make it worse or what?
+thankkk u for answering
@@NyraLibert i think the scene was really good, but from what i understand, him working on a script during writers' strike was like a blow in the face to all writers. Because they are striking for fair working conditions and pays, and he just decides to ignore that and write the scene. If thats what happened, then it's really disrespectful to all the writers. Please someone correct me if im wrong.
@@patats5885 oh now I get it !
He is really disrespectful! How could he!!!!!!
+also thanks for helping me understand
"However, if people question your artistic integrity for it, don’t be surprised" oh she DEVOURED with this one
blake has suuuuuuch manic and chaotic energy in all the interviews. I've never seen her so seemingly nervous and uncomfortable. i feel like she knows she's not addressing what's important and she knows she's effing justin over and she's trying desperately to outrun everything by running her mouth. i used to LOVE her and ryan, and after the last few years of them both behaving like this and ESPECIALLY after this whole thing with justin - they both just feel SOOOO icky
Super icky
LUNCH ENTERTAINMENT HAS BEEN FOUND
I work at Barnes & Noble, and we call her CoHo there. It's not like J-Lo, because it's derogatory.
A coloring book made for a story about domestic violence? Oh honey, no
Doesn’t she have other books she could’ve done that for?
Alternative Title: ‘It Deep Dives With Us’
Omg how are you literally on every channel I watch, great minds think alike eh?
@@am141-x2y It’s the algorithm
“their baby died cuz they were laughing at his balls” shakespear is rolling in his grave knowing what’s become of literature 😭
rolling around laughing, maybe. you know he would have loved that unironically
THATS WHY ZLIBRARY IS DOWN??? 😭😭
YES THEY LITERALLY RUIN EVERYTHING IT'S SICK
This type of marketing from Colleen, Blake, and Ryan has, in the immortal words of Serena van der Woodsen, "gotta go"
Agree. And it seems they thought nothing of working to ruin Justin's reputation. 'We didn't get our way so let's destroy the person with balls to stand up to us.' What horrible people!
Tbh I have also not read any of her books, so I guess I can't technically critique her writing, but lily blossom bloom isn't a promising start
It’s literally also a joke in the book. Like it’s an irony addressed in there.
This comment made me giggle
All of this CoHo lore just seems like a very twisted joke manufactured straight out of The Bad Place
the difference between E.L. James and Colleen Hoover is that the fifty shades is smut, with a very problematic male main character and erika leonard knows it, but colleen really thinks her 6th-grade-level texts are empowering.
I’m also disappointed that from what I heard (I don’t plan on watching the movie) but the movie didn’t even have any trigger warnings before or after??? So anyone who went to watch who truly went into this movie blind with past trauma was probably triggered and I feel so so sorry.
I’m an atheist but I will start a 🕯️ prayer circle 🕯️ so you don’t get the buffet of online hate
i appreciate you 🫶🏽
"I would rather perish on live tv." My new motto
In one of the interviews Blake did she mentions how she's very involved in Ryan's projects and vice versa, and that just put up a red flag for me. There are numerous people hired to work on a project, but she thinks so highly of herself to think her opinions and point of view are always needed. It really reflects, to me, the level of overstepping she very likely did on the It Ends With Us movie.
not sophie turner catching strays 😭 2:47
Fr she's been through enough!
This comment appeared as she said 😂😂😂😂 leave our girl alone 😮💨
I’m not usually this person but I’ll say it anyway. I saw the title and I clicked immediately 😂 I’m ready ☕️
LOLLL welcome ☕️
@@opiniyonlol I’m a loyal sub. I just meant like I was super excited for this topic ❤
You’re telling me that z-lib got taken down because of Colleen Hoover?? 😭
I like the way Baldoni chose to promote considering the content. It seems like Lively and Baldoni were both passionate and both had a vision for the film but ultimately creative differences is no reason to be antagonistic toward each other. Lively also loses points for me because she couldn't muster up one compliment for Justin Boldoni when he could say all those positive things about her, he comes off more proffessional and smart that way. Blake Lively does know how tthe entertainment industry works and I think she just desperately wanted the movie to do well and she seems to be very involved in all her projects. This could have been handled better, clearly, now both of them are taking heat.
help girl 1 minute in and you are so likeable already 😭
0:58 whaaaat I'm so sorry 😭 if this happens again we ride at dawn
thanks bestie!
Z library getting canceled hurts, man……. 😞😞😞
20:20 the dude's face is my exact expression having to see the shoes on the couch 😩
At least it can be wiped down 😬But those shoes look dangerous to any material I guess....
All she had to do was take the book, and make the merch go to dv survivors and make resources. She would have made money and her PR would have been good
THIS!!
Im Not sure about the us, but in germany there are orgs where you can report your abuse without taking legal action. Its so you have documented proof of the abuse in case you need it later/want to take legal Action later on. A friend of mine used it to get her ex husband to sign the divorce paper
I'm from Germany and didn't know this. Thanks!
entirely unrelated but ur actually gorgeous
thank you omg
average looking at best but perhaps beauty is in the eye of the beholder
@@ionaskualexander1255 yea so u have no say in the matter :)
@@ionaskualexander1255 average ????? you need glasses
@ionaskualexander1255 what was the point of this comment? Did it make you feel better about yourself . It's not hard to spread positivity.
As someone who read early colleen hoover books in middle school (10 years ago damn) and i just remember finding her books to be very focused on the suffering of the main characters to make the romance more poignant, i.e. trauma porn. In some of her books that leads to interesting backstories but often it's just exaggerated and not handled well at all.
For example, in Slammed the female main character's dad dies suddenly, but the mom actually has cancer so she dies too, leaving the female MC alone to raise her primary school age brother. The male MC already lost both of his parents in a car accident and has been taking care of his younger brother ever since, making the MCs perfect for each other (except the male MC is the female MCs teacher, but you know they are destined to be together by their suffering)
Your videos keep getting better and better
You seem like such a down to earth human, thank you for talking about this subject❤
Justin did an amazing job at bringing awareness to domestic violence abuse. It's a very real and important issue !! Not a romantic movie but real life drama!!
The problem that so many books and real life very few people romanticize and justify toxic people
I'm so glad I found your video, because I had heard about controversy but never read the books or watched the movie and I did not want to need to. Now I have some things I can actually use to ask my friends why they think these things are okay.
Also I am so sorry that people were cruel and racist to you. That is truly terrible and I hope you're doing okay❤❤❤
People talk about ugly love but in November 9 he literally gets into a relationship with his dead brothers wife so yeah
i'm so sorry because this has nothing to do with your video, but you are so incredibly beautiful, and your voice is so lovely c':
Isnt she just
theres literally no wave colleen Hoover was a teacher whatttt 😭
Ewww Colleen’s response to the victim was gross!!!
oh I'm so fucking sat for this it's not even funny
🪑
not blake literally fumbling every single answer and sounding outright tone deaf
It sounds like the author has some latent masochistic traits and she decided to write some bad 80s Mills and Boon "romance" novel that doesn't fly in the 21st century since men who "treat you mean to keep you keen" are seen for the abusive douchebags they are and there is a lower tolerance for those situations being romanticised. Seems like the dv aspect was more of an afterthought despite saying the book is supposed to be some sort of a survivor's tale. Could be wrong though 🤷♀️
If the Hoover fans come for you, we will defend you
Honestly I cannot believe that Blake Lively agreed to be involved with that movie.....
You have the most perfect voice for yt.❤
10:50 Is the tale of love in the room with us?
All I'm thinking is 'big yikes,' and I won't be watching this movie or reading the book. I don't believe it's about taking sides; it's about observing what we're given from both parties and making rational discernments. From what I see, Justin is nothing like what people depict him to be, and authenticity is something you can't fake. Also he isn't the one trying to sell me shampoo or a coloring book, the most he's promoted was the 'No More' foundation which helped them with the film and he also shared resources to help DV victims.
On the other hand, the dude who played Atlas always seems uncomfortable, like he's being held hostage or something. Whenever Blake is talking, he awkwardly drinks whatever's in his hand and doesn't really say anything. If we take a look at Blake, she is actively dodging questions, acting aloof, and forgetting the subject matter, making it all about her and her outfits. I really do believe she thought she was having her 'Margot Robbie' moment, and that's what has ruined everything for everyone here.
Decorum and grace are the means by which I believe Justin has decided to handle things, all while maintaining his integrity. But I really think Blake may be trying to tank his career over this. Overall, all of this has given me the ick, and I'll be watching more of Justin Baldoni's stuff because he just feels more real. I have no hate for anyone here; it's just that the weird PR and smear campaigns aren't it for me.
You're sweet, but if anyone down here is a Colleen Hoover fan... I'm judging you.
Respectfully, I'm with you.
I will forever be salty about Zlib
one of the protagonists of IEWU is called Atlas... ATLAS?? How many Atlas have you met in your life, Coho?! 😭
Coho sounds like the place they lived in Family Guy
5:26 because she doesn’t know any
I learned about her from Caleb Joseph 😭
Ur so underrated
3:24 girl I'm insulted too
ive never read anything by this woman and i dont plan to, but i'm so stoked for this video because i LOVE being a hater
hi opiniyon. i am reaching out to request a Deep Dive of Anna Marie Tedler's memoir. i feel that CMBC was paid to call it bad. i need a youtuber to critically analyze it because i'm so invested in her journey as an artist.
I feel like I don’t really *get* to have an opinion on coho since I haven’t read any of her books. idk if I want to read any based on everything I’ve heard tho 💀
Idk why anyone would think Colleen Hoover of all people would do a DV story justice without romanticizing it
Okay yeah enjoy what you want but the fanbase of coho are so twisted, I cant like her books aren't that good chill. Go read Better than the movies and then talk to me. Not saying that book is far more superior but at least it's interesting like be fr
Nahhh Wattpad was gold in comparison to Ms. Hoover to literary history. A blessing, if you will, to the media literate world. Not the same level at all.
The whole It Ends With Us Toxcity started with Colleen Hoover. Colleen Hoover doesn't seem to take DV seriously by the way she marketed her book. She marketed to tweens and teens in florals, coloring books, and without Trigger Warnings and age appropriateness. How irresponsible and misleading.
4:19 no wonder she tight with Blake
13:21 this is false, Z library was not taken down because of "CoHo fans". It had already been under investigation and a different author (Sarina Bowen) was actually the one who reported/submitted a complaint. Colleen Hoover already publically stated on Facebook that she supported college students getting free books on Zlib and would not have conspired to take it down.
I will never forgive them for z Library. Never.
You’re telling me she was a professional social worker before she moved on to write books that romanticize abuse?????
I don't understand you people whats bad in a traumatic past of a character,i mean how are you even gonna enjoy a romance book without any rollercoasters,do you expect a sweet smooth flowy happy happy books for romance?!
Well, trashing all her books without having even read one of them doesn‘t seem really fair to me. It‘s absolutely ok not liking them, but you can‘t form an opinion only reading snippets or what people write on the internet.
BUT I do completly agree the way they promoted the movie is completly wrong. I‘m a 100% on Justin‘s side on this one.
Honestly idk that z library got taken door. Authors deserved to payed for their work. You’re not entitled to have it for free.
Sorry as a black author I don’t care about race. I care about substance. I don’t “look for myself” in the characters I read. I actively seek out characters who are complex and multifaceted. It shouldn’t matter about diversity when you are reading a book. A show or a movie is a different story.
Sincerely a South African woman who hates Coleen Hoover 😂
I hear you, but diverse stories often lead to new and interesting ideas. Without diversity things tend to grow stale, which seems to be why so many people have a bone to pick with Colleen Hoover. It's not just the fact that her characters are white, but that the stories themselves are stale, formulaic, and homogenous. I would also argue that the diversity of characters is in some cases important for realism. It Ends With Us is set in Boston, which is a super diverse city, so it is actually weird that there aren't any characters of color in the story.
Don't care about the drama, people should be worried that young women are so enamored of this woman's books, because it seems to me that she's sending problematic messages about relationships between men and women
SHE'S WRITTEN 24 BOOKS???? 24??????
Complaining about diversity not being present in a book is pretty dumb. I couldn't care less if they don't include a LGBTQ, latino, black, asian, etc. And I'm latino. I don't think that should be a complaint at all in any type of art. It's the author vision of their characters and it shouldn't be forced. However, the rest of your critique its well founded. Congrats on that, but reading the book would be the right step to make a critique about that.
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As a chronic reader, I have stopped reading books because too many of them are similar to Colleen Hoover's books, everything on bookshelves are corn and abuse
No way Coho stans somehow contributed to zlib getting taken down 😭
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I’ve literally never seen anyone get “hate” who spoke badly about Colleen Hoovers books. It’s the main opinion right now, don’t act like this is a niche opinion. It’s the in thing to hate on her right now.
I agree with the controversy about the marketing of both the book and the movie - that’s it tho. I’ve read her books from the ages of 14-16 and they have majorly changed my perspective on some things. I’ve gained so much empathy for women in abusive relationships through reading it ends with us. The selectivity of what’s hated right now is so weird to me. There are so many badly written books in this genre that don’t get nearly as much criticism as hers. For what it is, these books have obviously struck a nerve with a lot of people, sparked the love for reading again and been a part of their teenage years. They aren’t ground breaking literature and some aspects do deserve critique but as usual on the internet everyone (who like you hasn’t even read her books?!) jumps on the hate train and I think that’s not deserved.
A lot of this is merely speculation, nitpicking of a few single expressions and for what?
Maybe we're just in different internet circles, but people absolutely get hate from the Colleen Hoover fanbase. Her books are kind of like SJM books, where criticism isn't rare by any means, but the fanbase of said books is absolutely rabid. And while I agree that sometimes people are a bit too quick to jump on a hate train, this doesn't feel like that kind of a video? She's addressing the controversies surrounding Colleen Hoover, yes, but isn't dunking on the author or those who like her stuff.
On a separate note I'm glad that you personally got a lot out of this book, but there are plenty of people who feel the opposite, and their thoughts are just as valid as yours. Sure there are other crappy books in this genre, but as of now there are none that are as high profile as Colleen Hoover's. That's why the criticism feels disproportionate. It Ends With Us literally sold more copies than the Bible. And like anything else that gets super popular and is of questionable quality (take Fifty Shades or The Da Vinci Code), it's gonna take a lot of heat along with the love. That's not to say you're wrong for liking the book, it just means it's divisive, and that's fine. Oftentimes divisive books increase sales so I doubt Colleen has heartache over it.
WEAR YOUR FLORALS. Good Lordt 🫥🫥🫥
1:32 she was a teacher??? Her first book is about a teacher student relationship!!!! JAIL!!!