Hi Johannes, Lightweight is ok except the sleeping-solution... 100% agree. Think back for the Time in Army - without a good (short) sleep your shoot the hole Day. I have a super light Sleepingbag - and this thing is full shXt for comfort. Also back to my old trusted Bag 😉. Best Regards, Alfred
Hi Johannes I am just like you I sleep light. And I just cannot function well if I can't get a good night sleep, I tried a hammock once and you can't really change position in it. I now use a tent, duvet cover and a pillow that has worked the best in the summer time.
I agree with everything you said so a few years ago I decided to buy a black out tent - so no early light at 0530 next thing a good sleep pad with a duvet in a three man tent with loads of room for me and gear , but I think your right about the down quilt that just might be the correct approach to a great nights sleep - thank you
Hi Johannes. I agree with you that it means everything to sleep well when you are on tour. the worst thing that can ruin my night's sleep is the cold. this year at the SKOG I brought 2 sleeping bags, which are elastic. of course they filled more, but I slept like a baby 😅
I just unzip my sleeping bag all the way round and use it as a quilt in summer or warmer weather, it works fine but I can zip it back up when it gets cooler, I hate getting a cold back when sleeping. The duvet seems like a good idea but how do you insulate yourself from the sleeping pad ? I am not a big fan of trying to sleep on a cold sleeping pad, I need that bit of insulation. I guess they don’t have Viking size sleeping bags because Vikings are hard core, they just use animal furs for winter warmth, 2 sheep skins and a bear rug would be ideal. 👍👍👍👍👍
So here’s what I’ve read on the hiking forums - a bag will not insulate your back, as the insulation is squished under your body. What actually insulates you from the ground is the sleeping pad. The sleeping pad I bought is rated for -20 degrees and I could feel how warm it was, and it didn’t pack that much bigger than my previous -5 one.
Hehe, the hat is legendary 😁 I don’t think you would actually, I didn’t at a couple of degrees in Sweden (I had full wool and a down jacket on too though). A sleeping bag isn’t necessarily warmer as the insulation towards the ground doesn’t do much because it needs air, but a bag is better at keeping the warmth inside.
down camping quilts are the best dont think i could go back to my sleeping bag. I have the ZenBivy setup its a cover/cloth that attaches to the pad directly, then the quilt can attach to that sheet to help keep in place.
Working on my camping set up too, new sleeping pad this year, thicker and wider. Have some light weight sleeping bags that unzip and make a quilt. The two of them pack smaller than my one good sleeping bag. Time will tell, still looking for a decent pillow.
Good call on the pad. And unzipping a bag is 90% a duvet with a footbox, so clever thinking. This time I brought a 3$ IKEA pillow which was much better than any camping pillow I’ve ever tried 😁 didn’t pack as small though
I too have opted for the down quilt approach [I had to sell BOTH kidneys to get mine :( ] That plus the thicker and wider Thermarest and a decent pillow has done it for me. Happy days. Take care Johannes :)
I am with you! I completely agree with the reasons you pointed out at the beggining! One thing that improved my sleeping was a super firm inflatable mattress, next time i will try the duvet thing! That tshirt suits you 😂 and also does the new video dynamic! You have been super inspired lately ❤❤
I have also gone through the same process having invested in a thick mattress and for my summer trip to Spain I have bought a Onetigris down camping blanket from Amazon. You can also wear it as a padded poncho around camp with some poppers on the edges. Decent pillows help, and like you, I also bring 2!
Only around the house instead of putting the heating on, and sat out in the garden. I’m going to the ABR Festival in June, if it looks like a warm weekend I will try it then as I bought the lighter of the two. I did try a down sleeping bag for the weekend a few weeks ago and unzipped down to the toe box and used it over me like a quilt, but it still didn’t feel right
Hey Johannes. I have the same experience with sleeping bags. This year I discovered Big Agnes company and bought their Anvil Horn sleeping bag + one of their sleeping mats. Mat is thick enough and bag is big enough. My sleeping is much better now. Still not bed though.
I have a British army jungle sleeping bag which unzips to make a thin duvet and an American poncho liner which is even more lightweight. I like them both but they're not great when it is colder. I have used them with a wool blanket or two in colder weather, but that wouldn't be ideal for carrying on the bike 😁. I know Alpkit make hydrophobic down duvets. I've not tried one but their prices are usually competitive and personally I've never bought anything bad from them. They might be worth a look if you decide to buy.
Well, we always talk about layering for outdoor and motorcycle use, why can’t we layer when sleeping? 😅 As you say it’s hard to pack on the bike, but for this Spain trip I’m taking the thin duvet and a blanket from the couch at home. Those two + wool baselayers and my down jacket should be plenty 😁 Thanks for the Alpkit suggestion, I’ll check them out!
I left a comment on your previous video about UL Backpacking quilts, I thought I'd follow up and say the one that I personally use is from a company called hammockgear. They're quite a bit cheaper than other brands and I'm happy with mine if you do decide to go that route. They're still expensive, I'm fortunate to have already invested in one for backpacking prior to even getting a motorcycle.
Thanks a lot Michael, I’ll add the Hammockgear one to the list of interesting quilts. Happy to hear you like yours. I was hoping to find a used one, but that hasn’t been easy. Perhaps I’ll order one from Ebay/Amazon and see how it works. Either way, a quilt/blanket is the way to go!
wow very good video's so far , thanks for the info and tips and the awesome adventures man ....and I prefer Hammock over tents . i got a question, what would you recommend for boots during the summer camping/rides ?....and what kind of socks do you wear or would you recommend ? , i was told to try thin nylon dress socks because less sweat .
Thank you! I’d go with a thin wool sock because it doesn’t smell, regulates temperature well and works when wet. Thin nylon dress socks is good against blisters (old army trick) and good at wicking moisture, but will quickly begin to smell bad.
@@JohannesDalenMC Thanks man that helps alot :) , I'm going to order both Thin wool socks and thin nylon dress socks and take both of them for a test on my next hike and ride..
You’re welcome, let me know how it works 😊 the thin nylon sock isn’t supposed to be worn alone, it’s usually combined with a second sock, like a thin wool sock. The friction happens between the two socks and not between your foot and the boot, and that’s why it’s good for not getting blisters while hiking.
I have the same issue with sleeping bags, and my solution - exactly the same as yours ! Would love to join you in Portugal sometime on my XT1200Z, or you are welcome to stay at my farm in Aberdeenshire, if in Scotland. But my motorcycling is on hold for the next few weeks as I was skiing at Elgà, Femund Nasjional Park in April and managed to rip my Distal Tendon on left arm (very ouch). Travel insurance got me home, and operation needed to reattach and 12 weeks to recover. Andrew.
So do you use a duvet or a quilt? Appreciate the invitation my dear friend, there will be several trips to Portugal, and we’ve already talked about people bringing their bikes in instead of renting as well. That does sound like proper ouch, I wish you a speedy recovery and I’m sorry my country did that to you 🤨
@Johannes Motorcycle Adventures No, entirely my fault. Norge not to blame at all. Lots of ski trips to your country and always been great. Years back I worked on farms in Trondalag and on Hitra, and go back at any opportunity. Has to be a duvet, and a big store of Makarel in tomatsaus !!! ( and Topris) :)
Hi! It’s the cloud 2 up actually, but it should be named 1.5 because there’s no way you can fit two people in this one 😅 I’m very happy with it so far, especially the great price.
@@JohannesDalenMC Maybe the fact that you are such a big guy makes it look like the cloud up 1 😂, I was thinking about getting it but will definitely go for the cloud up 2 then, thanks a lot for the reply 🙂
Hi Johannes ! good content. Can you tell what tires are currently on your motorcycle? because i want to tarvel to Portrugal this sommer (in Germany no wild camping and off road places)
Hello there and thank you! Current set is Mitas E07s and I’m quite happy with them. People report very good longevity and if it isn’t wet they perform well. I’d go with the newer ‘plus’ version that doesn’t have that centerstrip though.
@@JohannesDalenMC I'm planning to take this year TET Norway and TET Lithuania (I'm from Lithuania but live here in Norway, Ålesund)... So, yes... I would join 😊😊😊😊and thanks for your videos👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
you're mad buy a down sleeping bag that unzips at the foot and the side. you can have your feet out the bottom or the side open or unzip it altogether and it's a quilt.
Yeah, it is a funny hat. But I like it. So why not a square sleeping bag that unzips completely. Ends up being same as a duvet. And if it DOES get cold, you zip it back into a sleeping bag.
Camping quilt is the way to go. and works better in a hammock also
Exactly. I will bring a small and lightweight hammock along with the tent in case the weather is excellent and I can sleep under open sky 😊
I unzip my sleeping bag and use it like a blanket or duvet. If it gets cold, I zip it up. Cheers
Right now I feel like a fool for not thinking about that 😅 cheers, a good solution!
"Moving around in a constant search for a better position." That describes us restless sleepers PERFECTLY.
Agree
watching this I feel so lucky, having my best sleep in that restrictive 3 season sleeping bag and my tiny 1 man tent when out with the KTM !
Happy to hear it works, I might just be a big baby 😅
Hi Johannes, Lightweight is ok except the sleeping-solution... 100% agree. Think back for the Time in Army - without a good (short) sleep your shoot the hole Day. I have a super light Sleepingbag - and this thing is full shXt for comfort. Also back to my old trusted Bag 😉.
Best Regards, Alfred
Hi Johannes I am just like you I sleep light. And I just cannot function well if I can't get a good night sleep, I tried a hammock once and you can't really change position in it. I now use a tent, duvet cover and a pillow that has worked the best in the summer time.
I agree with everything you said so a few years ago I decided to buy a black out tent - so no early light at 0530 next thing a good sleep pad with a duvet in a three man tent with loads of room for me and gear , but I think your right about the down quilt that just might be the correct approach to a great nights sleep - thank you
Hi Johannes.
I agree with you that it means everything to sleep well when you are on tour. the worst thing that can ruin my night's sleep is the cold. this year at the SKOG I brought 2 sleeping bags, which are elastic. of course they filled more, but I slept like a baby 😅
I just unzip my sleeping bag all the way round and use it as a quilt in summer or warmer weather, it works fine but I can zip it back up when it gets cooler, I hate getting a cold back when sleeping.
The duvet seems like a good idea but how do you insulate yourself from the sleeping pad ?
I am not a big fan of trying to sleep on a cold sleeping pad, I need that bit of insulation.
I guess they don’t have Viking size sleeping bags because Vikings are hard core, they just use animal furs for winter warmth, 2 sheep skins and a bear rug would be ideal.
👍👍👍👍👍
So here’s what I’ve read on the hiking forums - a bag will not insulate your back, as the insulation is squished under your body. What actually insulates you from the ground is the sleeping pad. The sleeping pad I bought is rated for -20 degrees and I could feel how warm it was, and it didn’t pack that much bigger than my previous -5 one.
I’ve been using a backpacking quilt for a few years, same principle but packs up small. I had the same issue.
I’m sold on the hat, Johannes, but not so sure about the duvet. Although I, too, hate sleeping bags, I think I’d freeze using only a duvet!
Hehe, the hat is legendary 😁
I don’t think you would actually, I didn’t at a couple of degrees in Sweden (I had full wool and a down jacket on too though). A sleeping bag isn’t necessarily warmer as the insulation towards the ground doesn’t do much because it needs air, but a bag is better at keeping the warmth inside.
Thanks for sharing Bro!
I unzip my down sleeping bag and you have a doona. Only at well below zero i think about zipping up or sleeping in full thermal gear as well
down camping quilts are the best dont think i could go back to my sleeping bag. I have the ZenBivy setup its a cover/cloth that attaches to the pad directly, then the quilt can attach to that sheet to help keep in place.
Working on my camping set up too, new sleeping pad this year, thicker and wider. Have some light weight sleeping bags that unzip and make a quilt. The two of them pack smaller than my one good sleeping bag. Time will tell, still looking for a decent pillow.
Good call on the pad. And unzipping a bag is 90% a duvet with a footbox, so clever thinking. This time I brought a 3$ IKEA pillow which was much better than any camping pillow I’ve ever tried 😁 didn’t pack as small though
I too have opted for the down quilt approach [I had to sell BOTH kidneys to get mine :( ] That plus the thicker and wider Thermarest and a decent pillow has done it for me. Happy days. Take care Johannes :)
I am with you! I completely agree with the reasons you pointed out at the beggining!
One thing that improved my sleeping was a super firm inflatable mattress, next time i will try the duvet thing!
That tshirt suits you 😂 and also does the new video dynamic! You have been super inspired lately ❤❤
Thanks, it’s my favorite t shirt ❤️
its its not too cold, try a hammock, i found it the best in terms of comfort also very light
Lavvo and a feltseng thats good
I have also gone through the same process having invested in a thick mattress and for my summer trip to Spain I have bought a Onetigris down camping blanket from Amazon. You can also wear it as a padded poncho around camp with some poppers on the edges. Decent pillows help, and like you, I also bring 2!
Thanks a lot for the suggestion, took a look at the blanket on Amazon and it looked pretty nice, especially for the price. Have you used it yet?
Only around the house instead of putting the heating on, and sat out in the garden. I’m going to the ABR Festival in June, if it looks like a warm weekend I will try it then as I bought the lighter of the two. I did try a down sleeping bag for the weekend a few weeks ago and unzipped down to the toe box and used it over me like a quilt, but it still didn’t feel right
Thank you for the great advice ! Enjoying your channel👍
Happy to hear Thomas 😊
Hey Johannes. I have the same experience with sleeping bags. This year I discovered Big Agnes company and bought their Anvil Horn sleeping bag + one of their sleeping mats. Mat is thick enough and bag is big enough. My sleeping is much better now. Still not bed though.
Hey Miroslav, happy to hear, I’ll take a closer look at Big Agnes stuff 😊
I have a British army jungle sleeping bag which unzips to make a thin duvet and an American poncho liner which is even more lightweight. I like them both but they're not great when it is colder. I have used them with a wool blanket or two in colder weather, but that wouldn't be ideal for carrying on the bike 😁. I know Alpkit make hydrophobic down duvets. I've not tried one but their prices are usually competitive and personally I've never bought anything bad from them. They might be worth a look if you decide to buy.
Well, we always talk about layering for outdoor and motorcycle use, why can’t we layer when sleeping? 😅
As you say it’s hard to pack on the bike, but for this Spain trip I’m taking the thin duvet and a blanket from the couch at home. Those two + wool baselayers and my down jacket should be plenty 😁
Thanks for the Alpkit suggestion, I’ll check them out!
I left a comment on your previous video about UL Backpacking quilts, I thought I'd follow up and say the one that I personally use is from a company called hammockgear. They're quite a bit cheaper than other brands and I'm happy with mine if you do decide to go that route. They're still expensive, I'm fortunate to have already invested in one for backpacking prior to even getting a motorcycle.
Thanks a lot Michael, I’ll add the Hammockgear one to the list of interesting quilts. Happy to hear you like yours. I was hoping to find a used one, but that hasn’t been easy. Perhaps I’ll order one from Ebay/Amazon and see how it works.
Either way, a quilt/blanket is the way to go!
wow very good video's so far , thanks for the info and tips and the awesome adventures man ....and I prefer Hammock over tents .
i got a question, what would you recommend for boots during the summer camping/rides ?....and what kind of socks do you wear or would you recommend ? , i was told to try thin nylon dress socks because less sweat .
Thank you!
I’d go with a thin wool sock because it doesn’t smell, regulates temperature well and works when wet. Thin nylon dress socks is good against blisters (old army trick) and good at wicking moisture, but will quickly begin to smell bad.
@@JohannesDalenMC Thanks man that helps alot :) , I'm going to order both Thin wool socks and thin nylon dress socks and take both of them for a test on my next hike and ride..
You’re welcome, let me know how it works 😊 the thin nylon sock isn’t supposed to be worn alone, it’s usually combined with a second sock, like a thin wool sock. The friction happens between the two socks and not between your foot and the boot, and that’s why it’s good for not getting blisters while hiking.
I have the same issue with sleeping bags, and my solution - exactly the same as yours !
Would love to join you in Portugal sometime on my XT1200Z, or you are welcome to stay at my farm in Aberdeenshire, if in Scotland. But my motorcycling is on hold for the next few weeks as I was skiing at Elgà, Femund Nasjional Park in April and managed to rip my Distal Tendon on left arm (very ouch). Travel insurance got me home, and operation needed to reattach and 12 weeks to recover.
Andrew.
So do you use a duvet or a quilt?
Appreciate the invitation my dear friend, there will be several trips to Portugal, and we’ve already talked about people bringing their bikes in instead of renting as well.
That does sound like proper ouch, I wish you a speedy recovery and I’m sorry my country did that to you 🤨
@Johannes Motorcycle Adventures No, entirely my fault. Norge not to blame at all. Lots of ski trips to your country and always been great. Years back I worked on farms in Trondalag and on Hitra, and go back at any opportunity.
Has to be a duvet, and a big store of Makarel in tomatsaus !!! ( and Topris) :)
Hi Johannes, thanks for this video and al others 😁. Is it the naturehike cloud up 1 that you are using? if so do you like it? Thanksss
Hi! It’s the cloud 2 up actually, but it should be named 1.5 because there’s no way you can fit two people in this one 😅 I’m very happy with it so far, especially the great price.
@@JohannesDalenMC Maybe the fact that you are such a big guy makes it look like the cloud up 1 😂, I was thinking about getting it but will definitely go for the cloud up 2 then, thanks a lot for the reply 🙂
Smart!
How about a sleeping bag with a long zip? When it’s unzipped it’s almost a duvet, and when it’s cold you can zip up and tolerate the strangling! 😱
yes, the DOONA is the way to go to a good night sleep
Hi Johannes ! good content. Can you tell what tires are currently on your motorcycle? because i want to tarvel to Portrugal this sommer (in Germany no wild camping and off road places)
Hello there and thank you!
Current set is Mitas E07s and I’m quite happy with them. People report very good longevity and if it isn’t wet they perform well. I’d go with the newer ‘plus’ version that doesn’t have that centerstrip though.
Hi, Johannes 😊do you guys plan to ride TET Norway this year? Maybe 😁😁😁😁😁😁
Hi Liudas! Not this year, I have so many trips planned already 😁 if so, would you join? 😁
@@JohannesDalenMC I'm planning to take this year TET Norway and TET Lithuania (I'm from Lithuania but live here in Norway, Ålesund)... So, yes... I would join 😊😊😊😊and thanks for your videos👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Nice, TET Norway is fantastic! I’m riding Lithuania later this summer too 😁
Thanks a lot, appreciate the support 😊
@@JohannesDalenMC when do you think to take Lithuanian TET? We are planning to start around on the 5th of August😊😊😊😊😊🏍️
I am 100% with you
sleeping bags are a pain
😁, have you found a solution to it?
@@JohannesDalenMC I like your idea just to bring the own blanket
What is this dhuvie
0:23 that’s utter bollox ! It takes 10 minutes to set up a tent !
you're mad buy a down sleeping bag that unzips at the foot and the side. you can have your feet out the bottom or the side open or unzip it altogether and it's a quilt.
Hehe, I may be mad, but I did try to unzip a down sleeping bag and it wasn’t nearly as good as the duvet 😁
Yeah, it is a funny hat. But I like it.
So why not a square sleeping bag that unzips completely.
Ends up being same as a duvet.
And if it DOES get cold, you zip it back into a sleeping bag.
I have a simple 2 step approach to sleeping well every night camping
Step 1: bring rum
Step 2: drink rum
I like the idea of this, but there has to be a step 3 here, or? Like waking up with a headache or so? 😆
1:50 the greatest country in the world for an off road motorcyclist… YEP ! that’s why I moved here ! 🩷Portugal 🇵🇹