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This build looks really fun, can't wait to try it out. But I'd point out that since your crit chance is so low, sigil of battle seems like it should be much better than sigil of strength. It should trigger on shroud and weapon swap with a 9s cooldown, but give 5 stacks of might for 10s.
Trying to navigate this video, your discord and your broken links for this build is an unpleasant experience. You should consider using a build site that works. Even post a JPEG like it's 1999. Anything would be better than this.
ANet: "Let's make the new necro spec a squishy ranged glass cannon" Hizen: "Okay the best way to play this is by face tanking in melee range" You are something else :D
Harbinger is hardly ranged, to be fair. Shroud 2-4 and the passive Shroud pulse from the trait all greatly benefit/require you to be in (almost) melee range to get off, and Elixirs are ideally thrown in close range too so they can hit both you and the enemies. A spec that can both weave between melee and mid-range depending on the situation is more accurate
That intro, it's hilariously brilliant. Saying this from Russia with love, Hizen-sama! ^__^ I love necros since core and I'm bad at keeping distance anyway, so gonna make a shot with this one of yours.
Almost the same build I used on my harbinger but I liked to use dagger Mainhand in the 2nd weapon set for additional sustain. That drain on dagger 2 is insane in full vipers gear.
With this build, where would you place harbinger in the open world tier list you made? Does ir stay in the same place? Would be nice to have a link in the comment of that video where you could update the tierlist every major balance patch c:
Whenever I get bored and want to try a new class, or rather elite spec, my habit is to look at metabattle, then I remember that hardstuck probably has better builds.... and then I remember I should probably check for a complete busted Hizen build first. Thank you Hizen
That Meme Intro hahahah, slaps so hard, fucking love it! Been using Celestial Harb mostly for WvW think it's time to unpark her and take her out into Open World again... thanks Lord H.
Thanks LH, I really appreciate this build! I'll admit it was sluggish with trash mobs since I stuck with basic attacks with them, but OMG did the champs go down quickly! I like the easy rotation and how on-key you are with your explanation. This build works exactly as you say it does. Thanks again big guy!
can also use plague signet to transfer those condies from blood is power, with a stunbreak, atm im using insidious disruption from curses . for more torment great info here ty. im not sure i like this playstyle since it just reminds me most of engineer pistol condies, but its a better blaster anyway.
for the equipment sigils i dont get it or its not updated yet? trailblazer provides no crit chance yet the sigils are strength which depends on crit chance to gain might
yea forgot to update the build link in this old video, the curses trait-line got a rework where Anet swapped traits location thats why it showed that i picked fear trait in the build link. I usually update latest videos build links also in my discord pinned messages
nice, gj!, and ty for including dps on golem this time; ok if Anet doesn't nerf your build after seeing your vid (like they did with your thief build) I'm going to try it ^^ This is like top tier solo all dps.. about as good as mesmer.
its more damage but way less sustain and u wont be able to face tank like he does with trailblazers(i was still able to beat all the legendary bounty on crystal oasis solo)
@@Strickzito essentially his old harbinger build was with celestial gear It IS good - its just how you would like to play in general Still trailblazer is the best option here
Is it better than yours scourge build for soloing things? I'm kinda of not a very good player, if that matters. The thing is i don't really have currency for required runes right now and man... only God knows how i don't want to grind dungeons, but if this build is better than the scourge then i could probably force myself. Thx for the video btw.
Nice for HPs, bounties and similar, but is really poor for regular open world content. Cut scenes from the story and time in between groups in open world means you can't consistently keep up Blight. And by the time a fight starts and you build back up, the battle is over and your blight goes right back down. Example is the Tower of Nightmares. If there's a boss of some kind in the group, I can do really well, but the rest I spend more time struggling to get blight and life force back up that I feel like I'm running around with a pop gun. Added you are trying to melee with no stability, the build is just frustrating. Damage output on bosses and similar is awesome, but I would not call this a build for open world.
I feel the same, do you have any build recommendations that would be great for both open world and bounties? Im looking for a build that can do both, with great on demand damage and sustain.
@@wickster8384 I don't really yet, though I have done some tweaking. My Harbinger is still in S2, but she just just finished fighting off the dragon attack in the Grove with ease. So enough damage to take out the Mordrem easily and enough mobility to dodge/avoid the AoE attacks. Currently she's doing Curses - 2,2,2 Soul Reaping - 1,2,1 Harbinger - 3,3,2 This is likely to be changed to 3,3,3 once I get the final HPs needed Weapons - Pistol/Dagger Secondary weapon - Staff (rarely use but handy for a few situations) Traiblazer set with a few Viper trinkets Skills: Elixer of Promise Elixer of Risk Spectral Armor Spectracal Walk Plaguelands Of course, I have never had a character start and end HoT with the same build, so we'll see what happens later. This could change a lot. But as of right now, Life Force builds faster with a lot less direct effort.
@@LordHizen I know, just saying both without quickness feels very sluggish. Though its even more sad that this build, despite lacking quickness, deals more damage and looks to have more survivability than your reaper build while having a higher ceiling in groups/End of dragons content. Dealing more damage is fine as it should outdps every other necromancer spec (even scourge) but having more survivability too is a slap in the face.
Problem with this build is nothing to do vs CC like knockdowns. If you're in shroud and you get knocked down you're basically dead because there's no escape and you have no healthpool. Shroud does not protect your HP. So you need to switch out of shroud and use your stunbreak to get back up. At that point you are low on HP and will have all abilities on CD, so dodge, maybe dodge twice and then sitting duck until shroud comes back up. It's an extremely fragile build. Better than the others I've seen, but definitely not very sturdy. Like I said, you get knocked down, you're basically dead. In tangled depths a single Veteran Chalk Slinger outdps your healing already. It takes ages to set up your stacks, by that time you're already dead. Enemies litterally kill me in a few seconds with 26K base HP before stacks. Can't seem to do what you're doing in the video. Enemies deal way too much damage and there's nothing protecting me so I go down in a few hits.
@@LordHizen Yea, but how does a veteral chalk slinger (normally surrounded by many more enemies) out damage the health gain? If that's the case, then the build is pointless right? I saw you do the balthazar hero point battle. If I try that I'm dead before I even shoot him. Don't have time to use abilities or whatever. So I'm missing something.
@@aeon5566 if you are using full trailblazer, and the same build but still dying to a veteran. then you must be missing something. the footage in this video was before the harbinger blight stacks buff so it should be easy to reach 25 blight stacks to build up damage and heal faster, since you can use shroud 4 and 3 off cooldown. P.S.: the goal for this video, is to provide a build for harbinger in OW for harbinger enjoyers since i got many requests for it.
@@LordHizen Well I just realized I was using Viper gear. And I currently don't have the funds to switch to trailblazer and get the aristocrats. I bought hte aristocrats gems and put it in the viper gear. So I'm fucked. Will have to shelve the build until I'm able to get more. Fuck my life.
@@LordHizen Alright, I managed to get a set of exotic gear with trailblazer and the aristocrats rune. Weapons and accessoiries are a bit hit and miss because I can't get them as trailblazer mostly. So I'm missing about 400 toughness and a bit of vitality. It's a bit better, but some mobs just hit way too hard and when your stuff is on CD it's still just kind of ok-ish rather than OP as in your vid. So I guess the build only works with ascended gear exactly as in this build, which is just simply impossible for me to get in any foreseeable future. So the profession just sucks, because it needs end game gear to be viable? I'm just not sure. My Reaper profession with suboptimal gear hardly ever dies.
Hello, the build links that use the "Build Editor" website are not working even though I tried to update them.
However, the build links through my Discord server are still working, so if you want to check out builds until the issue is fixed, make sure to join the Discord server and check the pinned messages in each class channel for build links and other stuff.
This build looks really fun, can't wait to try it out. But I'd point out that since your crit chance is so low, sigil of battle seems like it should be much better than sigil of strength. It should trigger on shroud and weapon swap with a 9s cooldown, but give 5 stacks of might for 10s.
did you try out ritualist gear instead of trailblazer? would provide extra vitality and concentration
Trying to navigate this video, your discord and your broken links for this build is an unpleasant experience. You should consider using a build site that works. Even post a JPEG like it's 1999. Anything would be better than this.
MOM!
Get the camera.
The intro is award worthy! So good! Thanks for great content and smiles haha
ANet: "Let's make the new necro spec a squishy ranged glass cannon"
Hizen: "Okay the best way to play this is by face tanking in melee range"
You are something else :D
Harbinger is hardly ranged, to be fair. Shroud 2-4 and the passive Shroud pulse from the trait all greatly benefit/require you to be in (almost) melee range to get off, and Elixirs are ideally thrown in close range too so they can hit both you and the enemies. A spec that can both weave between melee and mid-range depending on the situation is more accurate
@@novaanverdiano7589 this. People thing harbinger is ranged when it needs to be melee for doing DMG. Not being melee is a heavy DPS los
@@ProtectFreedomOfSpeech and they give you a bunch of gap closers
That intro was SOOOO good :D
I'd like to add a personal shout out of thanks to Mrs. Mukluk, who happens to be Russian, for her influence with this build. 😎
I love harbinger since Hollts... now you make me love it even more!
One of my favorite intros so far! It's funny how you find busted builds for specs other people look down on. I love it.
not only are u very quickminded and clever, as all your builds and theory-crafting shows, but u funny as hell as well :D
OMG Lord Hizen has uploaded a new video at the right time i just unlocked Harbringer recently thank you :D
That intro, it's hilariously brilliant. Saying this from Russia with love, Hizen-sama! ^__^ I love necros since core and I'm bad at keeping distance anyway, so gonna make a shot with this one of yours.
Almost the same build I used on my harbinger but I liked to use dagger Mainhand in the 2nd weapon set for additional sustain. That drain on dagger 2 is insane in full vipers gear.
With this build, where would you place harbinger in the open world tier list you made? Does ir stay in the same place? Would be nice to have a link in the comment of that video where you could update the tierlist every major balance patch c:
Whenever I get bored and want to try a new class, or rather elite spec, my habit is to look at metabattle, then I remember that hardstuck probably has better builds.... and then I remember I should probably check for a complete busted Hizen build first. Thank you Hizen
Man, I really love when a build forces you to not engage with its mechanics and just spam 1. Peak GW2 gameplay.
That Meme Intro hahahah, slaps so hard, fucking love it! Been using Celestial Harb mostly for WvW think it's time to unpark her and take her out into Open World again... thanks Lord H.
The new mukluk Russian build looks nice
this is gold. + brownie points for perfect usage of harry potter
this feels similar to the condi dd build before the self healing was nerfed, super cool, i missed that playstyle
Great video! I just have one question, would viper gear not be better ? or would you then play like on the verge of death each time . thank you
Thanks LH, I really appreciate this build! I'll admit it was sluggish with trash mobs since I stuck with basic attacks with them, but OMG did the champs go down quickly! I like the easy rotation and how on-key you are with your explanation. This build works exactly as you say it does. Thanks again big guy!
6:13 "Me checking discord which messages I'm not seeing"
can also use plague signet to transfer those condies from blood is power, with a stunbreak, atm im using insidious disruption from curses . for more torment great info here ty. im not sure i like this playstyle since it just reminds me most of engineer pistol condies, but its a better blaster anyway.
Very nice. The necromancer class makes me jealous
for the equipment sigils i dont get it or its not updated yet?
trailblazer provides no crit chance yet the sigils are strength which depends on crit chance to gain might
would it also be possible to run a minion version of this btw or doesn't that work too good? i have seen that somewhere else 🤔
Great stuff, thanks!! loved the style!
The lord has bless us
Pls, no i can't Reroll again xD Thx Meme Lord for the enjoyment 😀
Hello Hizen,
Is this Harbinger build up to date or should We check another build? and if so Which one?
Thanks ..
Do i miss something, why is in the build terror in curse tree skilled when you cant applay fear?
yea forgot to update the build link in this old video, the curses trait-line got a rework where Anet swapped traits location thats why it showed that i picked fear trait in the build link.
I usually update latest videos build links also in my discord pinned messages
how about first variant, but with celestial gear, the Death Magic 2/3/3 instead of Curse, and last Harbinger trait 2 instead of 3?
You will lose dmg and the signets passives into Shroud, but you will tank more
nice, gj!, and ty for including dps on golem this time; ok if Anet doesn't nerf your build after seeing your vid (like they did with your thief build) I'm going to try it ^^ This is like top tier solo all dps.. about as good as mesmer.
Good info, and I love the intro. Thanks.
Right on time !! Been lvling harbinger and using vallun build for a while now.. gonna try yours .. Cheers !! 👍👍
How does this build compare to a full viper build? =thx
I'm curious, would it be possible to use the gear of the main build with the traits of the tanky one? Or would that be even less damage?
its more damage but way less sustain and u wont be able to face tank like he does with trailblazers(i was still able to beat all the legendary bounty on crystal oasis solo)
@@Strickzito essentially his old harbinger build was with celestial gear
It IS good - its just how you would like to play in general
Still trailblazer is the best option here
@@Cross_111 oh when he said "main build" i thought that he meant the vipers one
it's harbing time
Is it fun to play? I was thinking to try it out. How bad is survival if you play viper? Its hard to switch stats unless you wear legendary armor...
Yea I'd like to try out all of these fun looking builds but without legendary armor it's tough. :/
@@pathway4582 i know, i dont have legendary either. Switchings stats on ascended is quite expensive.
It's like he heard me ask for this yesterday 🤣🤣🤣
This is legit enough that I want to boot up the game and revisit my necro just to try it
This is beautiful, thank you 😊
Does this really do 40%dps than other builds? insanely, cool.
I love this meme intro xD
link to build please?.
Wtf the condition dmg ... Even my eyes are bleeding
Omg that intro is amazing
Good video as always. But I agree with Muk, as a necro main, harbringer doesn't appeal to me at all or fit the motif of a necro.
Does EOD have any challenging solos?
Harvest temple seemed to be quite a challenge when Lord Hizen did it. :D
Is it good for wvw?
The hero we needed
best intro to date!!
man this builds is pretty darn strong and ez to play, only pity it's very much single target
Is it better than yours scourge build for soloing things? I'm kinda of not a very good player, if that matters.
The thing is i don't really have currency for required runes right now and man... only God knows how i don't want to grind dungeons, but if this build is better than the scourge then i could probably force myself.
Thx for the video btw.
It’s actually better than scourge , but scourge survival is better
Is mirage Open world still good?
I'm running it, and yes it is, a little boring but good, no try-harding required.
Nice for HPs, bounties and similar, but is really poor for regular open world content. Cut scenes from the story and time in between groups in open world means you can't consistently keep up Blight. And by the time a fight starts and you build back up, the battle is over and your blight goes right back down.
Example is the Tower of Nightmares. If there's a boss of some kind in the group, I can do really well, but the rest I spend more time struggling to get blight and life force back up that I feel like I'm running around with a pop gun. Added you are trying to melee with no stability, the build is just frustrating.
Damage output on bosses and similar is awesome, but I would not call this a build for open world.
I feel the same, do you have any build recommendations that would be great for both open world and bounties? Im looking for a build that can do both, with great on demand damage and sustain.
@@wickster8384 I don't really yet, though I have done some tweaking. My Harbinger is still in S2, but she just just finished fighting off the dragon attack in the Grove with ease. So enough damage to take out the Mordrem easily and enough mobility to dodge/avoid the AoE attacks.
Currently she's doing
Curses - 2,2,2
Soul Reaping - 1,2,1
Harbinger - 3,3,2 This is likely to be changed to 3,3,3 once I get the final HPs needed
Weapons - Pistol/Dagger
Secondary weapon - Staff (rarely use but handy for a few situations)
Traiblazer set with a few Viper trinkets
Skills:
Elixer of Promise
Elixer of Risk
Spectral Armor
Spectracal Walk
Plaguelands
Of course, I have never had a character start and end HoT with the same build, so we'll see what happens later. This could change a lot. But as of right now, Life Force builds faster with a lot less direct effort.
hi love build how about making one for sword weaver?
thats actually one of the stuff im going to add in the next future vote
@@LordHizen ok ty, was trying to dust off my old weaver
best intro ever
Amazing intro 😂😂
omg, the meme intro,
i cant stop laughing LOL
my main is harbinger/reaper,
thx for this great build,
loving it~
Is this build still current?
yes if there was a change to the build I would have changed the title and said "updated"
@@LordHizen okay, thanks :)
When Best Enginner build for open world?
stunning intro.
Harb/reaper without quickness feels so rough.
But the reaper build I made is using quickness?
@@LordHizen I know, just saying both without quickness feels very sluggish. Though its even more sad that this build, despite lacking quickness, deals more damage and looks to have more survivability than your reaper build while having a higher ceiling in groups/End of dragons content. Dealing more damage is fine as it should outdps every other necromancer spec (even scourge) but having more survivability too is a slap in the face.
may vodka be with us
Perfect intro )
Haha best intro ever.
6:15 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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wahahahaahahahahahahaha my day is complete bcoz of u hahahaaha
Problem with this build is nothing to do vs CC like knockdowns. If you're in shroud and you get knocked down you're basically dead because there's no escape and you have no healthpool. Shroud does not protect your HP. So you need to switch out of shroud and use your stunbreak to get back up. At that point you are low on HP and will have all abilities on CD, so dodge, maybe dodge twice and then sitting duck until shroud comes back up. It's an extremely fragile build. Better than the others I've seen, but definitely not very sturdy. Like I said, you get knocked down, you're basically dead.
In tangled depths a single Veteran Chalk Slinger outdps your healing already. It takes ages to set up your stacks, by that time you're already dead. Enemies litterally kill me in a few seconds with 26K base HP before stacks. Can't seem to do what you're doing in the video. Enemies deal way too much damage and there's nothing protecting me so I go down in a few hits.
The problem you mentioned is how the mechanics of the spec plays not the build.
@@LordHizen Yea, but how does a veteral chalk slinger (normally surrounded by many more enemies) out damage the health gain? If that's the case, then the build is pointless right? I saw you do the balthazar hero point battle. If I try that I'm dead before I even shoot him. Don't have time to use abilities or whatever. So I'm missing something.
@@aeon5566 if you are using full trailblazer, and the same build but still dying to a veteran. then you must be missing something. the footage in this video was before the harbinger blight stacks buff so it should be easy to reach 25 blight stacks to build up damage and heal faster, since you can use shroud 4 and 3 off cooldown.
P.S.: the goal for this video, is to provide a build for harbinger in OW for harbinger enjoyers since i got many requests for it.
@@LordHizen Well I just realized I was using Viper gear. And I currently don't have the funds to switch to trailblazer and get the aristocrats. I bought hte aristocrats gems and put it in the viper gear. So I'm fucked. Will have to shelve the build until I'm able to get more. Fuck my life.
@@LordHizen Alright, I managed to get a set of exotic gear with trailblazer and the aristocrats rune. Weapons and accessoiries are a bit hit and miss because I can't get them as trailblazer mostly. So I'm missing about 400 toughness and a bit of vitality.
It's a bit better, but some mobs just hit way too hard and when your stuff is on CD it's still just kind of ok-ish rather than OP as in your vid. So I guess the build only works with ascended gear exactly as in this build, which is just simply impossible for me to get in any foreseeable future. So the profession just sucks, because it needs end game gear to be viable? I'm just not sure. My Reaper profession with suboptimal gear hardly ever dies.
Looks like you burnt the potato 😅
easy mode unlocked
That not a necro that a russian, haha I remember I ear that the first time, still very funny xD
Do not show Putin this build.
Would the RITUAL stats as an option or works with your build here? If I forgo the TOUGHNESS would it make me very squishy and die more often ? 😵😵😵😵