Hey Endo, I have done some very extensive testing on getting a submarine to work, and here is the best, quickest, and most realistic way to fill/blow your ballast. This is also the most compact: 1. Put a door in the top and bottom of your ballast tanks. 2. Add 3-20 impellers (3 worked for me on a small sub) to pressurize your gas tanks to around 1,000 atm (yes, 1,000, you heard me right) which is the max you can reasonably go. Gear them to the max, and connect it to your power source (I used a medium electric motor, plenty of power there). The impellers will not increase in pumping speed at a certain rps. 3. When your gas tanks have been filled, open the top and bottom hatches to fill ballast. 4. When you are ready to surface, open JUST the bottom door in your ballast, and open a valve from your air to the ballast (no pumps, apart from the impellers were used throughout this process, they limit the flow of gas/liquids, and take away some of the realism). This will blow all the water out the bottom of your ballast, leaving just air. (1. make sure to be level, otherwise air will escape. 2. some water will remain (at most a few L), you may have to pump it out when you reach the surface) You are now at the surface, and can repeat this process a few more times until you need to refill your air, which should take at most 30 seconds with impellers. 5. I should really write a guide, nobody seems to have figured this way out, and I have already had to tell this to 5-10 people. It has been only a week! i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/07/da/9e07daf8fdf4e13f4bc8a7b969dc619a.jpg
@@EndoSkull Oh, I would love to! But I am sadly much, much too busy for the rest of the week. I really wish I could present it. It has a surfacing time of only a few seconds, as 100,000 L of seawater is expelled in a few seconds. Work waits for no man. I could maybe be able to on Saturday/Sunday? No promises, though.
@@Nitty_Gritty1.0 Can you elaborate on how exactly you have the impellers set up? I'm not able to get anywhere near 1000 ATM, and definitely not within 30 seconds
@@EndoSkull I'm in good luck then as it is one of the first thing i've tested and recorded. While the explainations from @nittygritty191 can sound complex, setting it up and making it work is very much simple. I've got a video on my channel showing mostly nitty's explainations minus the pressurisation of the air tanks along a graphic from the Uboat steam community which i've first seen describing that method if that may be of some help.
The last test was the most efficient because it was only injecting enough air to pressurize the water tanks to 100 atm, then that air was pushing the water out. As water left, small amounts of compressed air would fill the new space to keep the pressure in the water tank at 100atm. You weren't losing pressure in your compressed air as fast because it wasn't leaving the boat through the water pipes. It was significantly slower though.
Couple things. First, yes, you’re not crazy, there used to be an empty setting for the tanks. Second, the « bouncing » has always been a thing. The normal waves of the water depend on the depth of the water so being in the deep sea means that the normal no wind waves are very big. As a last note. I’m surprised that you were even able to make this work as the parts you were using as ports were air filters and normally those only accept air in and out from my testing. Unless they changed that with this update
i was soooo hoping to now be able to make lifting baloons.....to have a room and add the gas pressure to make it a heavy lifter........sadly doesnt work
That's not how that works, adding Gas to a solid room just makes you heavier, You need to increase your surface area to displace the water to gain bouancy... not really anything in the game that can do that.
Hey Endo, I have done some very extensive testing on getting a submarine to work, and here is the best, quickest, and most realistic way to fill/blow your ballast. This is also the most compact:
1. Put a door in the top and bottom of your ballast tanks.
2. Add 3-20 impellers (3 worked for me on a small sub) to pressurize your gas tanks to around 1,000 atm (yes, 1,000, you heard me right) which is the max you can reasonably go. Gear them to the max, and connect it to your power source (I used a medium electric motor, plenty of power there). The impellers will not increase in pumping speed at a certain rps.
3. When your gas tanks have been filled, open the top and bottom hatches to fill ballast.
4. When you are ready to surface, open JUST the bottom door in your ballast, and open a valve from your air to the ballast (no pumps, apart from the impellers were used throughout this process, they limit the flow of gas/liquids, and take away some of the realism). This will blow all the water out the bottom of your ballast, leaving just air. (1. make sure to be level, otherwise air will escape. 2. some water will remain (at most a few L), you may have to pump it out when you reach the surface)
You are now at the surface, and can repeat this process a few more times until you need to refill your air, which should take at most 30 seconds with impellers.
5. I should really write a guide, nobody seems to have figured this way out, and I have already had to tell this to 5-10 people. It has been only a week!
i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/07/da/9e07daf8fdf4e13f4bc8a7b969dc619a.jpg
Ping me on discord if you'd like to show off your design and explain in a video
@@EndoSkull Oh, I would love to! But I am sadly much, much too busy for the rest of the week. I really wish I could present it. It has a surfacing time of only a few seconds, as 100,000 L of seawater is expelled in a few seconds. Work waits for no man. I could maybe be able to on Saturday/Sunday? No promises, though.
Whenever no rush@@Nitty_Gritty1.0
@@Nitty_Gritty1.0 Can you elaborate on how exactly you have the impellers set up? I'm not able to get anywhere near 1000 ATM, and definitely not within 30 seconds
@@EndoSkull I'm in good luck then as it is one of the first thing i've tested and recorded.
While the explainations from @nittygritty191 can sound complex, setting it up and making it work is very much simple.
I've got a video on my channel showing mostly nitty's explainations minus the pressurisation of the air tanks along a graphic from the Uboat steam community which i've first seen describing that method if that may be of some help.
The last test was the most efficient because it was only injecting enough air to pressurize the water tanks to 100 atm, then that air was pushing the water out. As water left, small amounts of compressed air would fill the new space to keep the pressure in the water tank at 100atm. You weren't losing pressure in your compressed air as fast because it wasn't leaving the boat through the water pipes. It was significantly slower though.
5:05 Sounds super fun!!
Your not going crazy I remember the empty setting as well!
Could you please make another tutorial to create a depth hold by only using ballast tanks?
I've attempted this - I haven't been able to get a super stable version - I'll ask Genrunimo about his I think he has a working version.
Couple things.
First, yes, you’re not crazy, there used to be an empty setting for the tanks.
Second, the « bouncing » has always been a thing. The normal waves of the water depend on the depth of the water so being in the deep sea means that the normal no wind waves are very big.
As a last note. I’m surprised that you were even able to make this work as the parts you were using as ports were air filters and normally those only accept air in and out from my testing. Unless they changed that with this update
i'm guessing they changed "empty" to "air"
the "air filters" have been universal ports since i started playing almost 2 years ago.
For submarine fuel glitch is stiil the answer, with glitch you can pretty much drain water faster than filling it
You don't need pumps at all to do that, you only need doors up and down just like in real life and is much simpler and quicker
those aren't air filters 2:34 they're air manifolds
Could we regenerate air(pure O2) using the new hydrolysis?
you also have a thing forgot the name but it takes water and makes it into oxygen that might be usefull
In my experience the pumps pump a lot deeper now and they pump fadyer
Mission failed my sub imploded
Damn I’m pretty early
i was soooo hoping to now be able to make lifting baloons.....to have a room and add the gas pressure to make it a heavy lifter........sadly doesnt work
That's not how that works, adding Gas to a solid room just makes you heavier,
You need to increase your surface area to displace the water to gain bouancy... not really anything in the game that can do that.
@@tidusklein3387 maybe in this topic....but was hoping that if i put AIR into something....that it becomes more lifting...then when its empty....
@@banditindustries No, that is unfortunately not how that works.