Nice to see someone ripping on their Scout like it should be. I've got a 2018 Bobber - V&H slash slip on's, S&S air box, PV3 tuner, then I worked all summer doing remote tuning with a tech from Fuel Moto. I have not had it on a dyno, but I can guarantee these add-on's greatly increased my HP. It is soooo much fun to be cruising 70-80 next to my HD buddies, then drop a couple gears and leave them in my dust. LOL
@Seraphim, That would be SO fucking sweet! Was thinking of turbo’ing mine, but decided against it just so I could somewhat keep the nice, linear NA powerband of the bike that it’s got. I’m planning on doing the big bore kit and those Andrew’s cams, at least if more info comes out about it in the future, there’s not a whole lot of info on them to be honest. And then if I decide that’s not enough, then turbo. I think that’ll make a nice last step if I do decide to take it a step further, but for now I’ll keep it NA. I definitely do want a turbo bike in my future someday though, whether the scout (probably not) or a gsxr more likely if I can get the funds or just something, anything really… someday.
But I absolutely love the idea of a turbo scout, so I’d love to see yours one day if you do end up getting one for it! I’ve only seen one example of a scout that was boosted on RUclips, but it looked absolutely nuts.
That comp-s is gnarly AF! Did you have to pop the tank to get the PV3 mounted on the bars? I have a PV3 and a power commander on my 21 sixty. I assume the power commander was put on with the comp-s at the shop. I’d like to dyno also. I think I need to log some data for dyno and get another tune made. There were zero available for my 60. I actually ordered the db silencer from two bros because that exhaust is just a bit too insnane lol. ETA disregard. I typed as you were riding now I see the tank is off.
Fuel moto is right up the road from me. I didn’t realize they were in SE Wisconsin. Also there’s a shop that has big bore kits here too. I might visit both over the winter. We will see!
Yeah I have been contemplating it for sure! Sadly I am putting away the bike for the winter this weekend but got some solid pics on the last ride! ibb.co/bHWvWF4 ibb.co/jbFJ44Y
I am so buyijg 1 of these the min I move down to Florida from NY within a few months. My only dilema is do I go Bobber, or Rouge. I keep going back and fourth. Bike sounds amazing
I've got a 2020 scout 60 and def need one of these. Im running the stage 1 indian intake and some straight pipe slip ons, just need a tuner and have heard the PV3 is the way to go. Def gonna invest in one.
@@scooterbobscout Thanks for the reply. I am having a significant loss of power in lower gears. I'm looking forward to getting the proper tune. Sadly, the bike came with 3800 miles on it and I have no idea how long the previous owner was riding untuned with performance intake and Trask exhaust. Should be fine lol. I noticed the problem within 50 miles so IDK what the previous owner was thinking. Maybe that's why they sold it lol.
Absolutely love the video. The PV3 is next on my mods list for my Victory Octane (Cousin to the Scout). But I have ask about the accessories you have on your bike here, what are and where did you get the fork mount bag, those sweet rear view mirrors and the speedo gauge relocation mount? Love to have those on my Octane.
So this would all be part of what they would on the Dyno in a shop? And do you think that if you change the exhaust (or slip-ons) do you also need to do the air filter and tuning? I'm thinking about changing the stock pipes soon but I can't do the whole package at the same time, but I don't wanna risk to damage/ruin the bike having it not running properly if I start changing things. As always, I love your videos man! Thanks and keep it up!
So your first question, it depends on the Dyno shop. Most shops will require you to already have a tuner before they put you on the Dyno. This means it is installed and probably has it's first flash (which is EASY to do). Time on the Dyno is costly and some will charge time based or by the run. Typically you ONLY will need to tune if you change the intake AND add a full exhaust system. You'll get better performance out of the bike if you tune it; however, it's only needed (for longevity of your bike) when you swap both those items out. Typically you don't need to tune if the exhaust are slipons as slipons don't change performance values much (if at all). If you want to stage your purchasing (which is what I did). Do the filter first (SS and Trask are best options) and then do the full exhaust and tuner together. FuelMoto does performance packages where they will greatly discount when you buy together though.
@@dadwithabike I beg to differ - if you change your air filter without changing the tune, you could be running lean or rich...you have no idea. If anything before the O2 sensors changes, the tune needs to change with it. Mufflers can be swapped without changing the tune, since those are after the O2 sensors.
@@bradsonnicksen6907 As far as I understand, the Indian engines are extremely susceptible to intake and exhaust changes. (Tune out of spec and poor performance due to being stock tuned.) For these engines, the tune is very recommended.
Can you run multiple tunes on the module and shift them on the fly? For instance a performance tune for doing pulls and a economy tune for long travels?
@@dadwithabike I thought that looked familiar that's what I use on my phone but how does it mount on the back of the tuner? Thank you by the way for reply and great video
Is the tier 1 is not good for the everyday performance when my scout have bassani 2to 1, but stock air filter at the moment?i have k&n air filter, but not installed yet. Do i ran lean now?
So you will be fine until you switch out the air filter to a performance filter. Once you do that - a tuner is super important or you'll run extremely lean. This can be the tier1 or the PV3. I only moved to the PV3 because it allowed me to flash my ECU to remove RPM and speed limiters - the tier1 does not do that for you.
Thanks, i think tier1 is good for me, maybe later i plan to upgrade to perfomance intake, here in easter europe it is hard to find parts and tuning and it is painful to pay for wrong stuff :-)
That heat you are feeling comes from the rear cylinder and sadly no. V-Twin engines are usually hot at the rear cylinder .... liquid cooled are cooler than air cooled. Sadly Indian doesn't put the cylinder deactivation tech in the bobbers.
So when you buy the PV3 tuner it gets licensed and registered to your bike. Places like Dynojet and FuelMoto will give you your first tune as part of the buy - it's a fairly generic tune but works in almost all applications.
You can plug it in, remove it - totally up to you. I keep mine plugged in because it also gives me useful readouts and you can setup the display to give you additional information. One cool think that I use it for is showing my % of throttle open. It's not useful - just cool :)
@@zeroneutral It's not really noticeable to be honest - but the thing that IS noticeable is the performance and overall throttle responsiveness - less jerky
Hard telling. Could have been bumpy - but this was also done when I was first starting out so ... gradually getting better at talking while riding - it's not natural :-)
Nice to see someone ripping on their Scout like it should be. I've got a 2018 Bobber - V&H slash slip on's, S&S air box, PV3 tuner, then I worked all summer doing remote tuning with a tech from Fuel Moto. I have not had it on a dyno, but I can guarantee these add-on's greatly increased my HP. It is soooo much fun to be cruising 70-80 next to my HD buddies, then drop a couple gears and leave them in my dust. LOL
So true....
@Seraphim, That would be SO fucking sweet! Was thinking of turbo’ing mine, but decided against it just so I could somewhat keep the nice, linear NA powerband of the bike that it’s got. I’m planning on doing the big bore kit and those Andrew’s cams, at least if more info comes out about it in the future, there’s not a whole lot of info on them to be honest. And then if I decide that’s not enough, then turbo. I think that’ll make a nice last step if I do decide to take it a step further, but for now I’ll keep it NA. I definitely do want a turbo bike in my future someday though, whether the scout (probably not) or a gsxr more likely if I can get the funds or just something, anything really… someday.
But I absolutely love the idea of a turbo scout, so I’d love to see yours one day if you do end up getting one for it! I’ve only seen one example of a scout that was boosted on RUclips, but it looked absolutely nuts.
Glad you're enjoying your PV3, or should we say - go fast thingy 😜🙌
Hell yeah I am, I push as many folks over to it as possible - totally changed the bike.
That comp-s is gnarly AF! Did you have to pop the tank to get the PV3 mounted on the bars? I have a PV3 and a power commander on my 21 sixty. I assume the power commander was put on with the comp-s at the shop. I’d like to dyno also. I think I need to log some data for dyno and get another tune made. There were zero available for my 60. I actually ordered the db silencer from two bros because that exhaust is just a bit too insnane lol.
ETA disregard. I typed as you were riding now I see the tank is off.
Glad to see you kinda do a comparison with the Tier1. I'm pumped to see your dyno video!
Yeah - just gotta get it scheduled - It'll be exciting to see
Thanks for posting this, very informative - and, looks really simple! Looking forward to seeing your dyno results!!
Awesome hope it helps.
Fuel moto is right up the road from me. I didn’t realize they were in SE Wisconsin. Also there’s a shop that has big bore kits here too. I might visit both over the winter. We will see!
Ohhh the big bore kit - it's on my list
Yeah I have been contemplating it for sure! Sadly I am putting away the bike for the winter this weekend but got some solid pics on the last ride!
ibb.co/bHWvWF4
ibb.co/jbFJ44Y
I am so buyijg 1 of these the min I move down to Florida from NY within a few months. My only dilema is do I go Bobber, or Rouge. I keep going back and fourth. Bike sounds amazing
I've got a 2020 scout 60 and def need one of these. Im running the stage 1 indian intake and some straight pipe slip ons, just need a tuner and have heard the PV3 is the way to go. Def gonna invest in one.
Absolutely the PV3 is the best. Once you have the intake AND an exhaust it will wake the bike up a lot.
I'm in the same boat, I'm applying a PV3 time from Fuel Moto soon... Did it work for you?
@@zeroneutral oh yea! Huge difference.
@@scooterbobscout Thanks for the reply. I am having a significant loss of power in lower gears. I'm looking forward to getting the proper tune.
Sadly, the bike came with 3800 miles on it and I have no idea how long the previous owner was riding untuned with performance intake and Trask exhaust. Should be fine lol. I noticed the problem within 50 miles so IDK what the previous owner was thinking. Maybe that's why they sold it lol.
@@zeroneutral just call dynojet and they will hook you up and tell you everything you need to know. Those guys are awesome and helped me out greatly.
I know Austin Hill Country when I see it!
Yessir!
Absolutely love the video. The PV3 is next on my mods list for my Victory Octane (Cousin to the Scout). But I have ask about the accessories you have on your bike here, what are and where did you get the fork mount bag, those sweet rear view mirrors and the speedo gauge relocation mount? Love to have those on my Octane.
Do you have to keep the tuner connected at all times or can you disconnect it once the bike is tuned
You can disconnect it and right now mine is disconnected. I'll connect it when I'm riding to record data and such - but not often
So this would all be part of what they would on the Dyno in a shop? And do you think that if you change the exhaust (or slip-ons) do you also need to do the air filter and tuning? I'm thinking about changing the stock pipes soon but I can't do the whole package at the same time, but I don't wanna risk to damage/ruin the bike having it not running properly if I start changing things.
As always, I love your videos man! Thanks and keep it up!
So your first question, it depends on the Dyno shop. Most shops will require you to already have a tuner before they put you on the Dyno. This means it is installed and probably has it's first flash (which is EASY to do). Time on the Dyno is costly and some will charge time based or by the run.
Typically you ONLY will need to tune if you change the intake AND add a full exhaust system. You'll get better performance out of the bike if you tune it; however, it's only needed (for longevity of your bike) when you swap both those items out. Typically you don't need to tune if the exhaust are slipons as slipons don't change performance values much (if at all).
If you want to stage your purchasing (which is what I did). Do the filter first (SS and Trask are best options) and then do the full exhaust and tuner together. FuelMoto does performance packages where they will greatly discount when you buy together though.
@@dadwithabike I beg to differ - if you change your air filter without changing the tune, you could be running lean or rich...you have no idea. If anything before the O2 sensors changes, the tune needs to change with it. Mufflers can be swapped without changing the tune, since those are after the O2 sensors.
@@bradsonnicksen6907 this depends on the manufacturer.
@@bradsonnicksen6907 As far as I understand, the Indian engines are extremely susceptible to intake and exhaust changes. (Tune out of spec and poor performance due to being stock tuned.) For these engines, the tune is very recommended.
Can you run multiple tunes on the module and shift them on the fly? For instance a performance tune for doing pulls and a economy tune for long travels?
We used to call this stuff "FIDGETING". You got plenty of oomph in the Scout Bobber.
Turn the key and ride...
Hey there, what mirrors are those? they look good.
These are Arlen Ness Mini Ovals
Did you leave the tier one tuner on ? You can run both tier one will help with results of the pv3
I did not, I have kept it and I plan on adding it back on when I take the bike to the dyno
How did you mount it? Specific mount?
I actually repurposed a Quad Lock mount for my phone
What was the highest speed youve got to wirh tun and everything done to bike?
Sounds good
What kind of handle bar mount are you using for the tuner?
It is a repurposed quadlock mount
@@dadwithabike I thought that looked familiar that's what I use on my phone but how does it mount on the back of the tuner? Thank you by the way for reply and great video
@@dadwithabike I have the same question, how did you mount the tuner to the quad lock? Great video.
What’s your top speed now ?
Is that water proof that u r leaving it mounted up there ?
It is resistant, it has a quick disconnect that lets you quickly remove it.
So Dad, will this make an actual noticeable difference in power if i put it on my 2021 scout bobber? Or is it just a few hp more?
Thanks 😊
Yes, it will especially if you add an intake. Also it removes RPM and speed limits along with easing out the throttle response
Is the tier 1 is not good for the everyday performance when my scout have bassani 2to 1, but stock air filter at the moment?i have k&n air filter, but not installed yet. Do i ran lean now?
So you will be fine until you switch out the air filter to a performance filter. Once you do that - a tuner is super important or you'll run extremely lean. This can be the tier1 or the PV3. I only moved to the PV3 because it allowed me to flash my ECU to remove RPM and speed limiters - the tier1 does not do that for you.
Thanks, i think tier1 is good for me, maybe later i plan to upgrade to perfomance intake, here in easter europe it is hard to find parts and tuning and it is painful to pay for wrong stuff :-)
does this lessen the heat on the exhaust in some ways on a stop and go traffic?
That heat you are feeling comes from the rear cylinder and sadly no. V-Twin engines are usually hot at the rear cylinder .... liquid cooled are cooler than air cooled. Sadly Indian doesn't put the cylinder deactivation tech in the bobbers.
Does the @Dynojet Research, Inc. S&S intake and PV3 tuner include the tune or does one have to buy a license also? Thanks
So when you buy the PV3 tuner it gets licensed and registered to your bike. Places like Dynojet and FuelMoto will give you your first tune as part of the buy - it's a fairly generic tune but works in almost all applications.
@@dadwithabike thanks. I thought so but thanks for the confirmation. I hope you’re enjoying your new bike!
@@scottvogel8339 absolutely!
Do you have to keep the Dynojet mounted on your bars or can you hide it somewhere?
PV3 doesn't have to be mounted, I only have it mounted when I'm recording logs for tunes later
@@dadwithabike awesome thanks for the feedback.
Do you have to leave the PowerVision plugged in all the time? Or can you plug it in log your tune, reflash, and then put it in the drawer?
You can plug it in, remove it - totally up to you. I keep mine plugged in because it also gives me useful readouts and you can setup the display to give you additional information. One cool think that I use it for is showing my % of throttle open. It's not useful - just cool :)
@@dadwithabike thanks!
@@SK-mw4mi Anytime
What kind of mpgs have you been getting after the tune?
It really didn't change. I typically would get between 100-120 miles before the fuel light comes on.
I have some GP shorties slip ons on my scout bobber sixty, do you recommend to tune it?. Plz I need help.
Hey what did you use to mount it there
What mount are you using?
Is there any way you can share the file for that setup ? I’d like to try it on my victory octane. Should be very similar.
Have you had the bike on the dyno to see what all you've picked up at the wheel?
Yes, I have 103HP and 91 FT/LB - but this was tuned by a race shop and my fuel economy suffers ... but it's fine :)
@@dadwithabike Any estimate on mpg differential between stock and tune?
@@zeroneutral It's not really noticeable to be honest - but the thing that IS noticeable is the performance and overall throttle responsiveness - less jerky
@@dadwithabike what shop did you go to do for the tune ?
@@paulknapp8663 AF1 racing
Is it possible for you to share this exact djt file for this mapping?
RIP DAD WITH A BIKE !
Where did you get that mount at for pv3 ?
This was a repurposed quad lock mount. I have since created out from generic handlebar mounts
Can you speed up above 120mph with your tuned scout bobber?
Yes, the tune removed the limiter for speed and RPM.
@@dadwithabike - is it the same with autotune? Like the fuelpak they use with harleys?
@@rodolfosabater7781 no, if it's just a fuel tune it doesn't flash the ECU a d that's where the limiters are set and managed
What kind of grips are those?
They are Avon cushion. I'm not a fan of the comfort but they look nice. I'll probably go back to my ODI Van's Cult Grips.
So if you bought this threw ebay, you can send your info into fuel moto or cant?
Sadly no, you have to buy from fuel moto I think. I would reach out to them and they may sell you a tune.
@@dadwithabike if they don't want my money, is there an easy way to get the tune? Or is the dino the only way?
@@leroy3784 dyno is the only other way I would go. You could also reach out to Dynojet sice they make the PV3
@@dadwithabike im in Cali. So I'll do what ever I can do. This state makes it hard to be cool around here. thanks for the time dad!
You can buy the maps and map support from fuel Moto if you bought the tuner elsewhere. Handy if you don't live in the USA
Doing this void the warranty?
It doesn't here in the US.
Why does your voice sound shakey like you're talking into a fan
Hard telling. Could have been bumpy - but this was also done when I was first starting out so ... gradually getting better at talking while riding - it's not natural :-)
What mount did you use for the PV3 device? TIA
I repurposed a quad lock phone mount until I figure a better option.
@@dadwithabike Thank you and GREAT VIDEOS btw🤘🤙