I call this interactive history. In Iceland there are some stones that fisherman would pick up the heaviest one being 154 Kg then you can call yourself full strength. There is a certain feel the stones give off knowing that others have lifted it before you, and others will lift it after you. I only got to half sterker which is 100 kg. These Jori have those vibes.
@@sankalpsharma2942 hey dumbo life expectency of india in ancient period was 100 years average . it is not necessary that one who does bodybuilding of pehelwani is healthy . also inner core strength matters and core strength of people was good at that time .
I have recently seen this added to my gym equipment. It is a public gym and people who do a good 150 lbs on the bench also find this tough. Of course, with practice, they will get it but all agree that it is one of the complete exercises. A classic
I heard about use of Indian clubs (decades ago) during the 19th century but I didn't realize they came from great country of India and they were so large having seen clubs much smaller.
@Vorteg Anum Gadhe kindly check the Nasa and Discovery collaboration on Ram Setu and it concluded it was man made. However normies who just opened a sceince book in class 10, would surely think themselves to be Einstein
I am happy with 1 clear swing of this long, dangerous, oldest, toughest nail jori. 9:53 Thank you so much @flowing dutchman for making a wonderful video for all lover of traditional exercise. I wish I & You can swing it clearly without any hesitation ,next visit of your to Varanasi.
@@GyanIndianJori Length, Weights both are out of balance - And at such distance the 2 kg weight & distance at outer radius the MOMENT (physics) (mass & distance) changes dynamics of balanced motion & skeletal muscle structure SYSTEM completely. Its not about strength or skill - just a new unbalanced Physics. Hence he could do both SOLO, but not together.
Those joris are long and they clearly shift your center of gravity from the centre to the far right,when u are doing it with the right hand . It would take u twice the force in ur other hand to swing that jori ,which will stabilize ur center of gravity .
Wow just wow - my great grand was a kusthi pilwan ... I come no where near to them now 😅 but this just takes me back when I was younger and used to hear stories of him from my grand father.. about him .. I am a t-rex compared to people back then
Length, Weights both are out of balance - And at such distance the 2 kg weight & distance at outer radius the MOMENT (physics) (mass & distance) changes dynamics of balanced motion & skeletal muscle structure SYSTEM completely. Its not about strength or skill - just a new unbalanced Physics. Hence he could do both SOLO, but not together.
@@TheFlowingDutchman Initially I figured its not possible to do them, but these are neither Symmetric nor Asymmetric, but they are off symmetric. There may be a way for you guys to TRAIN towards these. Have you guys ever tried swinging Non/ Off Pair Joris together? Say take a 4 & 6 of different lengths and do it together - switch and try. How does/ would it affect overall system motion and feel? How weird / off balance does body system feel / adapt to the dynamics? Take them gradually upto 8 and 10, non nailed. Their length and nails and the off balance physics are new VARIANTS that the bodies Neuro Muscular system is unable to tack altogether add to it NAIL DAMAGE Panic. You and Pratyay have access to lots of Joris - Just do off balance practise with heavier and longer.. ones and share How that affects overall System. Given that the body drives from the Center, this unbalanced CENTRIFUGAL & CENTRIPETAL forces would be interesting for the NM system to encounter.
கர்லாக்கட்டை..தமிழனின் பாரம்பர்ய உடற்பயிற்சி சாதனங்களில் ஒன்று...கொஞ்சம் வேறுபடுத்தி வடிவமைத்திருக்கிறீர்கள்.. பயிற்சி விதம் ஒன்றுதான்.. இருப்பினும் உங்கள் உழைப்பு அருமை..👏👏👏👌👌
Those looked crazy tough! Maybe better to swing them one armed due to the difference in weight. Or maybe there really is something spirit-related going on and someone's spirit doesn't want you guys swinging them...🤔 They're like the Excalibur of joris. There can only be one pehelwan 😹 Would love to see how much they actually weigh
In other Jori's there are No nail so you can put them on your shoulders or coller bones ! But problem with this Nailed Joris are you can put them on your shoulders or Collar bones bcz it may damage or hurt you ! But you are truely a motivation even for many Indians like us 🙏🚩🙂
Just because you have to give extra energy for the joris as they are very long and narrow at bottom and heavy at ends the centre of mass is moving a very long curve which means more and more change in potential energy with too much of angular momentum which gives tension on your wrist due to centripetal force and that's the reason why you cannot balance them and a factor also is that it has nails and you cannot balance it on your shoulders . When the jori comes at the bottom most point the potential energy converted into kinetic energy gives a sudden increase in angular velocity and tension on the wrists and shoulders which deviates you . So just try swinging those joris by swinging with low angular velocity.
literally my first time on this channel and my first time learning about this and idk why it's so funny there's a community dedicated to it, nonetheless looks sick
Left part of body is weaker thats why you couldn't did that completely. It takes lot of effort to train the left to make equal to right. But you people did v well. 👍
Maybe the ancients who weilded these (efficiently and with speed) were giants. Just a guess tho, I'll have to look it up because this is my first time seeing these.
People who are saying its more of a technique. Bro it's actually both technique n strength. Technique is just used to avoid injury. I hv done this. We still hv these in haryana desi akhare.
U need wrist power to lift and swing , do it with separate hands like u swing a cricket bat then u can do with both hands. U should try with heavy rod in length It doesn't happen in one try
Give it some time. I am no expert on this, but I think that it's not as much about being able to swing your heaviest mace or club but much more about how much control you have over them. The more control you have, the more tricks you can do with them. So, if you are having problems handling a heavier mace or club, then maybe you should spend more time in handling a smaller weight. Then naturally, once your muscles become strong enough, you will be able to effortlessly graduate to higher and higher weights and better handling. Also, for me, flexibility is as important as strength. This is just my opinion as I am not an expert on this, nor do I have extensive experience. I am really into hatha yoga, and in any kind of discipline, preparing your body is a slow and laborious process and instead of trying to get results early, the path of patience and perseverance is always more rewarding. I am not sure how much this advice may help you, but I thought I'd just put it out there.
It must to be in equal Wight.... you are right....👍...but that is not impossible, only have to do regular practice of little Wight to higher Wight.....jai bajarangg balli Hanuman ki jai ...🙏
Your hands could have got twisted...you should have tried with the single one at first, slowly and gradually the second...its just about technique of centre of mass and speed...💛
@@KurNorock they're clubs, a double handed weapon, the guy in the video said they were about 10-12kgs so not so heavy...they only use two clubs from training.
@@chadbhaiyya5167 Dude.. Stop. You don't know the first thing about this. First of all, those handles aren't nearly large enough for two hands. Second, they are still FAR too heavy. The heaviest actual melee weapons were greatswords or polearms which were 3.5kg or MAYBE 4kg at the most, or pikes which were extremely long spears that could weigh up to 6kg but were only held out straight, and not swung around. Just look at how these guys are lifting them. Even if you could get two hands on that little handle, there is no way you are going to hold it out in front of you, or swing it around without throwing yourself off balance. And you are damn sure not going to have the speed required to actually hit anybody with it. Maybe there is some much lighter and much shorter version of this thing that maybe could have been a weapon, but these ones in particular are NOT weapons.
As with any new exercise it is best to start with a lighter smaller one to learn the skill get your neuromuscular coordination and progress gradually to allow the muscles strengthen.
Everything was learnt from india because in those days foreigners use to come to india for trading. When they use to stay longer here they use to hang out with local pehelwans in india in those days. India taught lot of things to the world but those people dint give credit to india. They gave it their own name to it and their people thought its their tradition.
I call this interactive history. In Iceland there are some stones that fisherman would pick up the heaviest one being 154 Kg then you can call yourself full strength. There is a certain feel the stones give off knowing that others have lifted it before you, and others will lift it after you. I only got to half sterker which is 100 kg. These Jori have those vibes.
This is exactly why I was determined to swing these bad boys. I will come back for revenge!
@@TheFlowingDutchman exactly!
Husafell stones
@@adamtschmidt4303 lu luv love m
Hdudruu
The people of older times, especially in india were very strong
No, only abfew were stronger compared to todays generation, but majority of them didnt waste their time and generation as todays bodybuilders do ..
No old generation is nothing
@@sankalpsharma2942 🤣 see weight of javelin of Maharana Pratap pant gili hojaigi protien baaz
@@prashantbhardwaj4765 yeah only one tell me the next one
@@sankalpsharma2942 hey dumbo
life expectency of india in ancient period was 100 years average .
it is not necessary that one who does bodybuilding of pehelwani is healthy .
also inner core strength matters and core strength of people was good at that time .
Got to appreciate that this was still uploaded even without beating the Jori clubs, no ego very nice
I have recently seen this added to my gym equipment.
It is a public gym and people who do a good 150 lbs on the bench also find this tough. Of course, with practice, they will get it but all agree that it is one of the complete exercises. A classic
That's good .. it's all about balancing them and Using force At correct time... More of s Techniques
Add sandbags too
Great attempts Pratyay, Harbert and the local Pahlavan, respect.
Thank you Paul 🙏🏻
I heard about use of Indian clubs (decades ago) during the 19th century but I didn't realize they came from great country of India and they were so large having seen clubs much smaller.
@Vorteg Anum INDIA older than Iran itself
@Vorteg Anum In Indian history Lord Hanuman used Gada thousands of years ago (8500 BC or so).
@Vorteg Anum I don't think so, Those Gadas were mentioned in MahaBharata
@Vorteg Anum It's not a myth it's our Itihasa, just like Ramayan and Ramsetu.
Go search
@Vorteg Anum Gadhe kindly check the Nasa and Discovery collaboration on Ram Setu and it concluded it was man made.
However normies who just opened a sceince book in class 10, would surely think themselves to be Einstein
Fantastic effort from all three of you. I held my breath for virtually the whole video!!
Imagine about the strength of the person who used to swing it in past .
Yeah they all get killed because of stupidity using a heavy thing like that without purpose
@@crashercrasher9696 you are a nincompoop
@@crashercrasher9696 beta male spotted, opinion rejected XD
@@akshatrawat126 no he is actually.right there is a reason the spear dominated warfare in the past
@@aboutthegiggins4236 this wasn't used to fight
I am happy with 1 clear swing of this long, dangerous, oldest, toughest nail jori. 9:53
Thank you so much @flowing dutchman for making a wonderful video for all lover of traditional exercise. I wish I & You can swing it clearly without any hesitation ,next visit of your to Varanasi.
We will wait
I think one has a weird weight distribution, and they are so long. Good work!
@@BlessedFigTree yes it happened caus of this.
@@GyanIndianJori Length, Weights both are out of balance - And at such distance the 2 kg weight & distance at outer radius the MOMENT (physics) (mass & distance) changes dynamics of balanced motion & skeletal muscle structure SYSTEM completely. Its not about strength or skill - just a new unbalanced Physics. Hence he could do both SOLO, but not together.
Those joris are long and they clearly shift your center of gravity from the centre to the far right,when u are doing it with the right hand . It would take u twice the force in ur other hand to swing that jori ,which will stabilize ur center of gravity .
10:10 at this time u can see his center of gravity shifted to right
Correct
ig left one was hollow a bit from bottom
so they have difference in weight
Looks like the potential for a horrifying shoulder injury
This looks better than going to the gym.
No
This is first version of bodybuilding in olden days
No it doesnr
@@everythingsfine1395 yes, this is a full body workout which we normally don't get to experience at the gym.
@@dingus2332 yes, it is
Jai shree ram🙏,
Keep up the good work
Wow just wow - my great grand was a kusthi pilwan ... I come no where near to them now 😅 but this just takes me back when I was younger and used to hear stories of him from my grand father.. about him .. I am a t-rex compared to people back then
Takes me back to the 80s when the Iron Sheik would use them in the ring before a match
Ahhh that's where I remember them from....lol glad I saw this comment
@Saint Soldier He once spit on a caged turkey while being interviewed...the man was hilarious.
This is serious level mobility, control and concentration test. One miss and we will have a new superhero named nailman...
Length, Weights both are out of balance - And at such distance the 2 kg weight & distance at outer radius the MOMENT (physics) (mass & distance) changes dynamics of balanced motion & skeletal muscle structure SYSTEM completely. Its not about strength or skill - just a new unbalanced Physics. Hence he could do both SOLO, but not together.
That’s right
@@TheFlowingDutchman Initially I figured its not possible to do them, but these are neither Symmetric nor Asymmetric, but they are off symmetric.
There may be a way for you guys to TRAIN towards these. Have you guys ever tried swinging Non/ Off Pair Joris together? Say take a 4 & 6 of different lengths and do it together - switch and try. How does/ would it affect overall system motion and feel? How weird / off balance does body system feel / adapt to the dynamics?
Take them gradually upto 8 and 10, non nailed.
Their length and nails and the off balance physics are new VARIANTS that the bodies Neuro Muscular system is unable to tack altogether add to it NAIL DAMAGE Panic.
You and Pratyay have access to lots of Joris - Just do off balance practise with heavier and longer.. ones and share How that affects overall System.
Given that the body drives from the Center, this unbalanced CENTRIFUGAL & CENTRIPETAL forces would be interesting for the NM system to encounter.
Torque= ∫ dr.W
@Kabir S It helps reinforce to FD to realize that he shouldn't kill himself over a complex unbalanced system.
You surely don't know about those who did it
Man those joris are possessed. I am happy you reached Amsterdam safely 😊
😂
😂😂🤣
No scratch at all after all the nail swinging 🙏🏻
The nails on them make them several times harder to use
Which Swami did Pratyay try to summon when picking up?
Swami Swarupadhyay ?
Har Har Mahadev.
Hara Hara Mahadev 🙏
Only dara singh can swing this. Respect legend 🙏🏻🙏🏻
SHUGOKI'S TRAINING BE LIKE:
Unexpected, thank you.
Imagine getting bonked by a small indian guy dual wielding shugoki sticks doing chained 38dmg top heavies, probably got sum of dat hyper armor too 🤣
its imazing ! i want to try to create such clubs
but without those terrible spikes ..... may be year ago....
I love my great country India
Wonderful 💪 Astonishing 👌 Jai Bajrangbali 🙏
Please make a video on all excercises of indian club....from begining to last basic excercise...
Bro it's not good.... It will damage your elbows badly
It's so great to be watching your RUclips. 🙏🙏🙏
Its seems to be easy untill you try it 😈
I have one thing to say-Indians doesn't have cuts on their body but they have strength💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Good to see you guys practicing ancient Indian techniques
கர்லாக்கட்டை..தமிழனின் பாரம்பர்ய உடற்பயிற்சி சாதனங்களில் ஒன்று...கொஞ்சம் வேறுபடுத்தி வடிவமைத்திருக்கிறீர்கள்.. பயிற்சி விதம் ஒன்றுதான்.. இருப்பினும் உங்கள் உழைப்பு அருமை..👏👏👏👌👌
Wow....you are a legend!
Rock on 👍
You need at least 60 points put into your strength stat to power stance those.
Dislocating my shoulder by only watching these guys swinging those things
Indian 🇮🇳 we proud💪
Another terrifying implement to be swinging around! Exceptional to even attempt it!
i have also went to this akhara , its simply wonderful , now it is restored and equiped with more good equipments , please visit again sir
Another underrated channel
Crazy how leverage can make just 20lbs feel so heavy
Those looked crazy tough! Maybe better to swing them one armed due to the difference in weight. Or maybe there really is something spirit-related going on and someone's spirit doesn't want you guys swinging them...🤔
They're like the Excalibur of joris. There can only be one pehelwan 😹
Would love to see how much they actually weigh
They are crazy. I did swing them one handed, which was pretty easy. It’s the swinging of the pair that was really tough.
Intro was amazing 🔥🔥🔥
Damn that opening scene looked like one of you guys was gonna break a wrist💀
Respect 🤝 hope you didnt hurt your leg, i want to try it, looks very intense
Arm, forearm, shoulder, chest and back all muscles involved in this exercise 💪💪💪💪 only exercise 💪
It's the weight distribution, you could probably do it if it wasn't for that. Great job brother.
The Dutchman have great fitness 👌🏼❣️
In other Jori's there are No nail so you can put them on your shoulders or coller bones ! But problem with this Nailed Joris are you can put them on your shoulders or Collar bones bcz it may damage or hurt you !
But you are truely a motivation even for many Indians like us 🙏🚩🙂
10:27 "What you think, I can or not?" Lol gym bro talks have always been the same.
Love from india ❤️
ham v banaras se hain guru ... har har mahadev
Har har mahadev
I belive there is something to do with center of mass... As u swing it shifts towards the ends that's why it falls
Just because you have to give extra energy for the joris as they are very long and narrow at bottom and heavy at ends the centre of mass is moving a very long curve which means more and more change in potential energy with too much of angular momentum which gives tension on your wrist due to centripetal force and that's the reason why you cannot balance them and a factor also is that it has nails and you cannot balance it on your shoulders . When the jori comes at the bottom most point the potential energy converted into kinetic energy gives a sudden increase in angular velocity and tension on the wrists and shoulders which deviates you . So just try swinging those joris by swinging with low angular velocity.
Spike is the problem or u could rest it on shoulder n taken the support until u master it..
Techniques + Strength
The longer they get more torque is required, they really need extra strong wrists man.....
Love from India for you dir
Thanks for showing the interest in out culture & practices.
It's more of a technique thing then strength
I’d argue it’s both
Accha chalo thik hai....was lit
😉😄
@@TheFlowingDutchman 🤩🤩
literally my first time on this channel and my first time learning about this and idk why it's so funny there's a community dedicated to it, nonetheless looks sick
They are integral part of ancient Indian strength training or old school wrestlers training regime
India's ancient kings used these and many other things to get immense strength.and yeah I am talking about the kings from B.C(Before Christ)
Your last line (ACHHA CHALO THIK HAI) it's amazing 😍 bro keep it up
💯💯💯💯
I'm guessing you have zero rotator cuff problems. I'm sold.
Left part of body is weaker thats why you couldn't did that completely. It takes lot of effort to train the left to make equal to right. But you people did v well. 👍
Hey Dutchman am waiting for this, come on man hurry up
MyGod, there is "Jori club Pro Max" too!
Outstanding body outstanding energy! Love and respect! Handsome dude 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Gyanbhaiya , Dutchu ki hava nikal di 😅
Jai shree Ram🚩 Jai Bajrangbali 🚩
Wtf is this.
It's so cool.
Monster looking ones ! How tall are they
Watch out for that wall behind you, it's coming down- resting on a makeshift column.
Oh my god. 😳😳😳that is amazing
Maybe the ancients who weilded these (efficiently and with speed) were giants. Just a guess tho, I'll have to look it up because this is my first time seeing these.
@Focused Life Fair enough, discipline does wonders on the body.
That’s the beauty of culture 🙏❤️
Your intro is way too 😎😎 man
What about your next attempt?? I am curious to see
Love you Bhai... from India
Another cricket shoulder elbow dislocation 👍
9:53 maa parwati ki jay ho 🙏🙏. Jai Shiv Shambhu 🙏🙏🙏
Bgm is just awesome.
Hi sir,I am from Kerala, India I am 178cm tall and 65kg......plz suggest the right material for me.And plz tell me where can I buy it too.😊
People who are saying its more of a technique. Bro it's actually both technique n strength. Technique is just used to avoid injury. I hv done this. We still hv these in haryana desi akhare.
Berserk guts be like hold my sword..
Main yaha gaya hu .. mast jagah hai 🔥🔥🔥
हे फक्त indian पहिलवान easiliy करू शकतो 😍😍😍
Ram ram🧡
Ahhh u can't do any mistake with that spike one, or it'll take our some grams of your meat😵😂
U need wrist power to lift and swing , do it with separate hands like u swing a cricket bat then u can do with both hands.
U should try with heavy rod in length
It doesn't happen in one try
Last me kya bhai 🤣,
अच्छे चलो ठीक है🤣🤣😂😂
Give it some time. I am no expert on this, but I think that it's not as much about being able to swing your heaviest mace or club but much more about how much control you have over them. The more control you have, the more tricks you can do with them. So, if you are having problems handling a heavier mace or club, then maybe you should spend more time in handling a smaller weight. Then naturally, once your muscles become strong enough, you will be able to effortlessly graduate to higher and higher weights and better handling.
Also, for me, flexibility is as important as strength.
This is just my opinion as I am not an expert on this, nor do I have extensive experience.
I am really into hatha yoga, and in any kind of discipline, preparing your body is a slow and laborious process and instead of trying to get results early, the path of patience and perseverance is always more rewarding.
I am not sure how much this advice may help you, but I thought I'd just put it out there.
Please tell me why nails are attached to jori?
When this is done in gym it is called EGO lifting 😂
Love it 🤘❣️👌🌸
All Indians 1 like for our indian strength 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
It must to be in equal Wight.... you are right....👍...but that is not impossible, only have to do regular practice of little Wight to higher Wight.....jai bajarangg balli Hanuman ki jai ...🙏
I am trying to decide what is more dangerous; the clubs or the brickwork?
What is difference between gada n jori swings? what part of body do they target?
Your hands could have got twisted...you should have tried with the single one at first, slowly and gradually the second...its just about technique of centre of mass and speed...💛
I DONT KNOW HOW DID I GET HERE, GOOD VIDEOS NOW I LEARNED SOMETHING ABOUT JORI AND GADA LOL
What's the point of the spikes? To shred your Achilles tendon when you screw up?
They were also used as weapons during wars, these ones are probably old weapons instead of training clubs
@@chadbhaiyya5167 There is no way in hell that these were ever a weapon. FAR too heavy and slow.
@@KurNorock they're clubs, a double handed weapon, the guy in the video said they were about 10-12kgs so not so heavy...they only use two clubs from training.
@@chadbhaiyya5167 Dude.. Stop. You don't know the first thing about this.
First of all, those handles aren't nearly large enough for two hands.
Second, they are still FAR too heavy. The heaviest actual melee weapons were greatswords or polearms which were 3.5kg or MAYBE 4kg at the most, or pikes which were extremely long spears that could weigh up to 6kg but were only held out straight, and not swung around.
Just look at how these guys are lifting them. Even if you could get two hands on that little handle, there is no way you are going to hold it out in front of you, or swing it around without throwing yourself off balance. And you are damn sure not going to have the speed required to actually hit anybody with it.
Maybe there is some much lighter and much shorter version of this thing that maybe could have been a weapon, but these ones in particular are NOT weapons.
@@KurNorock hmm, i agree with you... Guess these are just anomalies
As with any new exercise it is best to start with a lighter smaller one to learn the skill get your neuromuscular coordination and progress gradually to allow the muscles strengthen.
are you now in Varanasi ,my banaras
This is an ancient sport in Iran and you can look at its history and it can be said that bodybuilding is old
It is Indian sport
Everything was learnt from india because in those days foreigners use to come to india for trading. When they use to stay longer here they use to hang out with local pehelwans in india in those days. India taught lot of things to the world but those people dint give credit to india. They gave it their own name to it and their people thought its their tradition.
Its not exclusively for body building
Its more about wrestling condition thing
And a must do exercise for mace fighters in old style hindu army
When this was created India and Persia where one country