2023 USB Charger Buying Guide and My Choices
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- 2023 USB Charger Buying Guide and My Choices
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In this video I am attempting to make it easier to pick which power adapter or charger will work for your device and how to pick one and which ones I picked and why. Not the best video ever.
Videos for each device:
UGREEN 20W: • UGREEN Mini 20W USB C ...
GOOGLE 30W: • Google 30W USB C Charg...
BASEUS 100W: • Baseus 100W GaN 3 Desk...
ANKER 100W: • Anker Prime 100W A2343...
ROCOREN 140W: • Anker, Rocoren, Kovol ...
SATECHI 165W: • Satechi 165W USB-C 4-P...
UGREEN 300W: • UGREEN 300W NEXODE CD3...
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Video on USB Cables: • USB Cables Part III Th...
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00:00 Intro
00:44 What is USB Power Delivery
04:30 Examples with Devices
06:05 20W
07:00 30W
07:39 100W Desktop
08:30 100W Wall
08:55 165W Desktop
09:34 140W Wall
09:58 300W Desktop
10:33 Conclusions - Наука
Your power brick reviews are by far the the most thorough I've come across. Nobody else touches on waveform or power factor, for example... Excellent stuff for us nerds.
Thanks! Yeah, it isn't for everyone but there's plenty of "yep, it plugs in and works" reviews out there.
It's peculiar that your recommendations have ZERO correlation with Amazon review ratings. I am leaning to trust you over Amazon. It's filled with fake review farms.
haha
Great video again. I'm not surprised you have the Satechi as your daily driver, I'm in the same case.
Your recommendation on the 300w Ugreen is looking very interesting since the 4 ports on the satechi are quickly used up if you have more than 4 devices to charge.
Looking forward to more awesome content. 😊
Yeah, if I had more laptops or didn't have so many power adapters to pick from, I'd probably use the UGREEN. Certainly a power user kind of device.
Thank you. Excellent review. Keep up with the technical info. The best I have seen till now
Thanks for watching!
Loving the great detail of your reviews..had to subscribe!!..I just recently picked up the Alfox 200W USB C Charger. its a beast of a charger. Keep doing awesome reviews!
Thanks for watching! Yeah, there are so many of these chargers popping up I can't possibly keep up but I have a bunch of 200 watt ones to review still.
Just ordered the Ugreen 200W because of your reviews. Thanks for the awesome detailed testing !!!
Now to spend time going through your reviews for the powerbanks.
haha, so many videos.
Thanks! Wonderfully geeky and detailed reviews. Much respect!
Thanks for supporting the channel!
Thank you for introducing the protocols. It's very useful for me to buy my charger.
You're welcome.
This was a great review, very clear and concise.
Thanks!
You have amazing content! thank you very much!
Thanks for watching!
I have to say this is my favorite tech channel by far, you're straight to the point, you don't try too hard to make "cinematic" shots, you don't use retarded youtuber language, and you do proper testing not just talk about how you feel about a product. Don't change my friend.
haha, but this adapter really did make me happy and give me a warm sensation of greatness. My 'cinematic' shots could use work.
@AllThingsOnePlace Satechi 200w or Ugreen 200w Please let me know. Thank you. Or any other recommendations in 100w i use Samsung 21 Ultra, Acer Swift Laptop, Anker powerbank, Go Pro 9. Which one will you recommend looking at the devices i have. Thank you. Also, i am in Australia.
Great timing, I started looking today. :)
Yeah, loosely planned.
so lucky to discover you ,, cheers man
The algorithm has favored you today.
yesterday i ordered a ChargerLab Power Z KM003C. your videos have sparked a curiosity in me to start testing my own collection. its hard to get good information on which of the flood of USB-C testers on Amazon are any good, but this one had some good reviews and E-Marker testing. Comparing some of those might make an interesting video idea!
The KM003C is a fantastic tester.
Yeah, I am sure I will be adding to my collection.
Few weeks ago was thinking about when you'd make something like this, thanks! As me and my friend are in the market to get one
Yeah, I need to try to get a semi-annual summary out.
Great job with this channel.
Thanks!
Thanks for the review!
No problem.
Great video as always
Glad you enjoyed it.
I picked up a Rocoren 100W based on your review. I've only had it for a week, but I definitely appreciate the removable cord and standard connector.
Mine blew after 6 months
That is not a very long life. But yeah, the Baseus has seemed to hold up better in the long term for me so it keeps the spot as the top pick.
@pbatacan ah, that's unfortunate. I suppose they cut some corners to reach the lower price. Hopefully I'll get a bit luckier with mine.
@@AllThingsOnePlacewhy didnt u included the beasus 100w wall? Isn’t it the same as the desktop on but the wall version has removed wire
@@pbatacandid you put in a warranty claim? If you did, how was the process?
Dude you’re such a fucking beast I hope your channel blows up, your content is already on par with dave2d and better than unboxtherapy. Watched one video and subbed. Really hope things take off for you, definitely deserve it. Thank you.
Thanks! Yeah, it's been slow. I know my content is pretty specific, the algorithm put the channel on a linear growth trajectory in terms of subscribers, in terms of views, it stopped growing a long time ago. According to YT I am not making the videos audiences want so it's my fault. Yes, I need to do more, but without growth it's hard to put in more time.
Hi, thank you for the video, I was looking the other day into ways to charge my laptop (who doesn’t support usb c charging) and I saw some usb c to barrel adapter but it seemed a bit sketchy so I wasn’t sure if it would even work or worse damage the computer. I wanted to know if you would have somewhere where I can learn more about this. I really love how detailed and clear your explanations are so thank you again for your great content! 😁
Update: I just saw you had a video programed about the "Teardown and protocol Exploration of Dell 130W USB Adapter". I hope you will talk a bit about what is possible with the USB c to barrel adapter, I'm impatient to see it. If you have some links who explain this I would love to look at it^^
Yeah, there are tons of the adapters and cables online. I've tested some, on the USB cables list. I am sure I will need to add more in time. The fact is the 19V ports often support 20V with no issues. They can't set a hard limit of 19V as the power adapters that come with the laptops themselves will often be 19.5 or 19.8V from the factory especially with no load so there is a tolerance of components that the input of the device has to tolerate. I've really only done this with Dell and HP laptops my self and had good luck. I've seen others do this with Surface adapters and Lenovo machines. Apple, for some reason, just sticks to the standard and works with all of these. Anyway, I just search Amazon for the adapter I am looking for and go for it. You could do a more scientific approach if you have lots of time. Find schematics, good luck, reverse engineer the power input section... look for tolerances on components to be capable of supporting 20v inputs. After that it's just plug and play. Search terms: 20V Barrel to USB C, for my laptop I added blue tip. But yes, I need to get on the protocol exploration of these adapters since surprisingly I haven't seen any content on that yet.
Thanks a lot for your focus on safety
Other reviews aren't useful as they mostly miss this
Thanks. Yeah, just a piece of the puzzle.
recently converted my wifi and modem to usb-c versions. the modem i had to solder in a 12v trigger board. switched to short baseus usb-c cords and some cheap "20watt charger bricks" which can do the 12v at 1.67amps. compared to the original modem and router my ISP sent us, im saving 6-10bucks per month in electricity which is insane. going to build a little usb-c UPS soon for fun. the project will literally pay for itself in a couple months time and once i upgrade the hardware i can recycle the power brick and usb-c cables. this is the true utility of usb-c. 12v is so useful
Those original power supplies must have been awful to be saving that much... Anyway, sounds like a good project!
Hey! Great video.
I’m new here. Liked and subbed.
By the end of the video, i thought maybe it would be helpful to test out some of the Thunderbolt desktop hubs since you started talking about desktop accessories and computer charging systems.
I have a few hubs here, I want to start getting into that testing too. There are so many cheap hubs then a lot of really expensive ones. I'll probably start with a bunch of cheap ones.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Ah! Great. Really cool. Yeah, that scene is getting really crowded, and a good dive into that could really help the sun break through the clouds. 👍👍
perfect chanel, this guy is sick as me for chargers
haha
Awesome channel. Will you be doing a review on the Rocoren 200w 6c+2a adapter? Would love to see how these 8 port adapter fare with anker and ugreen. Thanks.
Not sure, I added it to the list.
Thank you for the every informative video, I'm currently looking at the Anker adapters for the purpose of charging my devices. An adroid phone, an intel macbook pro and an iPad mini 5th gen
I just wanted to ask, do cables play a role in terms of charging your devices? I plan to grab some anker cables too and I'm not sure if it would be worth the extra money I'll be spending
If you have any suggestions I would gladly appreciate it
Yeah, you will have to do a little protocol exploring. The Apple products are pretty easy, USB PD. The Android could be literally anything from 5V only to one of the crazy methods like 250W VOOC. The Anker in this video will deliver slower charging to two of the devices and one PD device. So, 65W, 10W, 10W probably.
I think you may have misspoke… USB-C PD is at version 3.1 not 4.1 1:01
By the way… EXCELLENT job with this… I LOVE your work!
Ah ha. Nice find!
I'd love to see a review of the isdt 200x. I have one and have been happy with it - especially the 140w charging for my 737, but that's highly anecdotal and would appreciate a more rigorous review.
Yeah, it looks like it's on Amazon now, I tried getting it through Ali and Ebay and they wouldn't ship it to me or would ship the 200 not the 200X. We will see if I can get the correct one finally.
I appreciate the videos that you have posted lately. I am looking for a way to charge my laptop when I'm out of my house. I have a Thinkpad X1E gen 5, it has a big 230W brick, but it supports USB PD 3.0 I'm looking to charge it mostly between classes or while doing light work. The Anker Prime 100 W caught my attention because of the small form factor.
Do you recommend it or should I go for a higher-power charger, like a 140W?
It probably doesn't support PD 3.1 EPR modes so, 100W is probably the place to be. The Anker is the smallest 100W charger that isn't terrible. Look/wait for a sale. It's too expensive at full price.
Thank you for all your detailed work on these chargers. Much appreciated.
I have only one suggestion which is to include Mcdodo chargers in your reviews and comparisons, as well.
Mcdodo is the direct competitor to Baseus and the prices of their chargers are considerably lower than those of Baseus in my area.
I've been eyeing their 140w charger and one major reason that's held me from buying one is that I haven't seen a detailed review of them from you. Haha!
The 140w Mcdodo charger in question is CH-2911 which is 64USD in my area, whereas the 140w offerings from Baseus and Ugreen are 84USD and 102USD, respectively.
Keep up the valuable work. Godspeed or, in your specific case, Thorspeed!
I've done some mcdodo products for sure but yeah, the higher power products haven't made it. Thank you for the specific model and details on which one to look at but even still I can't find that one. This is what has limited mcdodo products from getting onto the channel. I can see only two (that is a red flag in itself) on eBay one is $120 USD, too many dollars. The other is a CH-290, although they look 'the same' but yeah, this is why I also don't use these sites often, the item you get versus the description and functionality don't align. It is on the list and I will keep looking!
@@AllThingsOnePlace You're welcome and thanks for your response and consideration.
The SKU for 291 is CH-2911. I haven't seen the 290 (CH-290) because only CH-2011 is available and prevalent in my area. The EU plug version of CH-2911 goes for 36.29USD on the wholesale page of Mcdodo. I also found the CH-2911 on the retail page of Mcdodo, but it's in Indian currency if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, it's rather hard to trust 3rd-party vendors when it comes to Chinese brand products, unless they've got good reviews.
I don't know if RUclips allows for the links to be commented, however I try leaving the mentioned links below this reply.
Thanks again, man.
I found his Rocoren 140w recommendation on eBay and ordered one, but it hasn’t arrived yet. So we’ll see if it actually gets here.
great video
Thank you.
This is one of the best product reviews I've seen on RUclips 👍. You should take a look for the LDNIO gan 140 watt or 100 watt charger. I don't know if it's available in America because the product is from china but it's available in Indonesia recently. it's relatively cheaper than baseus and ugreen with 6 ports for the 140 watt one so I'm interested if it's the best budget charger
Thanks, yeah, I have it on the list, no idea if/when it'll make it. It does depend on availability for a lot of the newer brands out there.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I hope so, I was wondering if LDNIO might sacrifice the safety with the price because having 6 ports and 140 watts around 32 dollars here is quite insane
Hey man, I very much appreciate all your videos, really helpful! I have two questions. 1: When measuring idle power usage, does it matter if you leave the cable(s) in or not, especially with the multi-port chargers? 2. I'm trying to understand harmonic distortion. Am I correct in thinking that for the consumer the efficiency of the charger is more important, and that more harmonic distortion is mainly a nuisance for the power grid (companies)? Or does it also affect real power usage for the consumer as well?
1) it only matters if it is an active device, then yes, it matters a lot. A USB C to C cable is fine to leave plugged in. A lightning cable or a wireless charging pad will keep the charger 'awake'. For 2, it is both a nuisance and a power consumer. The grid has to absorb the heat created by all the energy from the off harmonics. In residential you don't pay directly for that loss but you do pay for some of it in losses in your household electric system to carry the extra current. In a typical household, it's about 5-10% of your electric bill. Every individual device will add up to 0% of it, but you combine them, the losses square so it ends up being sizeable. This is why higher wattage things tend to have power factor correction and low THD values.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you very much, that's enlightening. Now, I'm interested in a multiport charger, such as the Baseus 100W or Satechi 165W you reviewed. I would use it as a second charger for my laptop (main one is the Apple 96W), use it to charge my phone and iPad and other than that only devices that pull ~2.5-5W (Dualsense controller, AirPods, headphones, camera battery, mouse etc.). Now these chargers use PFC but I did notice that the efficiency for a low test load isn't as good as with most low wattage chargers (that have the downside of high THD). My question then is: would it still make sense to use one of these 100W+ multiport chargers even if most of my devices charge with a very low wattage?
Great video mate! Thanks.
May I ask a question, what is the best option to charge my nintendo switch and iPad?
Switch not totally sure, it’s different with dock too. I think it needs more current than usb technically allows at the lower voltage. Few others took this approach too. Steam deck, new raspberry pi. I would find a power adapter that matches the output on the switch supplied power adapter. iPad is anything 20w and up. It is broadly compatible with usb c chargers.
I really enjoy your content and I'm curious if you'd make an explainer and do a review across various different devices and accessories that are USB-IF certified vs the ones that aren't and what that means for the consumer.
Yeah, that's not a bad idea, perhaps in the next round up video I can do that. There are certainly tons of non-certified devices out there. Almost none of the new cables are certified since they don't follow the labelling scheme.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Woah, I've gone on the USB-IF website looking for accessories but the way they have it set up isn't ideal for trying gleam which products are actually good within the manner that you present them. Would be a great round up video too with the added info included.
Nice to hear your cumulative picks all in one video.
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic video. What do you recommend for usb c 12 volt? Any possibility to power a compressor fridge ?
USB won't deliver enough current for that application.
Thanks!
Thanks for supporting the channel!
Thank you
You are welcome!
Just had my second USB-C die on Nexode 300W. I used only that one for both laptops (90W + 65W) and two phones (30W + 85W). Most of the time only 2 devices are plugged in but frequently I had 3rd one. Maybe once did I use all ports. Most of the time I charge 1 laptop & one phone or 2 laptops. So not sure if the point of this one was to work sometimes and "cool off" or did I receive faulty charger. After watching your Nexode review I think it was simply overheating and killed 2 ports. I still have my 140W and lowest port (I assume 100W) work but not sure until when. First port failed last month. So it takes about 3 months of average usage (family that has 2 laptops active most of the day) to destory it. I was disapointed but your review helped to understand what might be the problem - simply these were intended to use 2x a day for max 2 hours and stop which is not the what you assume with the size of this device
Wow yeah, that should not happen! It is true that I did struggle with the full load condition on that charger. Meaning it will overheat but it should recover not fail completely. Very odd behavior. I will pay attention and see if anyone else has any reported failures.
Great review. I have iPhone 15 pro max and i am wondering which charger is better Anker Nano 313 GaN or Anker 713 Nano GaN II?
Answered on the other thread.
I found this video incredibly helpful in understanding the different charger options available.
As I am considering purchasing a new charger for my iPhone 15 Pro Max, I wanted to reach out to you for some guidance. Could you please advise me on which charger from your recommendations would be the best choice for maintaining the battery health of the iPhone 15 Pro Max?
I value your expertise and would greatly appreciate your insights on this matter. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
Looking forward to your response.
I charge my iPhone as fast as I can, ha. I know some people still have the fear of fast charging. It is true of extreme speed charging that it will hurt battery health, but the fact is all charging and discharging hurts battery health, it is the extreme ends of things that make that happen faster. Pushing 100 watts into a phone battery is a bad idea. Charging in direct sunlight or freezing cold... Modern phones (from big brands Samsung, Google, iPhone) manage the charge much more carefully to try to make sure the devices don't overheat, damage the cells, or damage anything else while charging so I'm in the fast charge boat. The battery is going to go bad in 4 or 5 years, yeah, maybe it will last 6 years if you charge it in ideal conditions for the entire life of the device. Likely at that point the device will be ready for replacement just due to wear and tear of daily use anyway. If the EU gets it's way the batteries will have to be replaceable, easily, anyway. So, fully opinion based response... The only thing we know is batteries degrade in time and with all charges and discharges.
Hello! May I ask you to test new Belkin charger? 45$ & I like size and 3 usb-c /67w - right enough power for my MacBook air and small stuff like iphones and headphones. "BoostCharge 3 Port USB-C Wall Charger PPS 67W" will it be a good and safe option for traveling with?
Thanks, yeah that is on the list.
@@AllThingsOnePlace I didn't wait and ordered one for myself, but will still be very much looking forward to your review! Love your stuff
Awesome video as always. Please could you link the barrel to type c lead please thank you so much
The one I used here is no longer available. They tend to pop up and disappear rather quickly.
Would love one of these for power banks!
Yeah, next week.
Great, thank you! I can get Anker Prime 100W unit right now on sale for 46 dollars. Awesome deal, imo. I'm just thinking whether or not it's worth the purchase as I have GanPrime 65W currently and it satisfies my needs.
It's 60$ after 25% off. Maybe you have a code?
The only issue I have with the new Anker 3 port 100W is that it's PPS mode is only up to 11V. Should be up to 20V. I've asked Anker for their reasoning why, and their answer is some devices struggle to work at PPS higher than 11V.
@@alexisv625It’s on aliexpress.
11V makes sense in PPS as most of the devices are phones that use this. I can understand this decision. I have seen devices with two PPS modes so the device can device between them but it can cause negotiation glitch or power cycling loops. As a compromise they could've had 21V PPS on the laptop port though and 11V PPS on the phone port.
Thanks
You're welcome.
Amazing in depth content. Thank you! I'm looking for 60-70W PPS charger recommendation. Single output is fine. Is the charger database available on your website? I only see the cable and car charger info on there.
The other website has the chargers. The ranking and basic charger information is all available for free. Yes it has a paywall for the advanced data. I will be looking at the 70W apple charger soon. The Anker 67W was not very interesting. The Amazon Basics 65W is still my go to for that power level, but it is limited in modes of operation, no PPS modes if you need that.
@@AllThingsOnePlace uGreen pro "nexode air", 30w and 65w Aren't they interesting?
Up here in Canada I got a couple of 120 W chargers from a company called Oraimo. They are relatively cheap and seem to work well with my devices, but I don't have the equipment to test efficiency and their compliance with the PD standard. Have you seen them? I am curious to know how well they'd perform against more established brands. It doesn't come with any safety markings, but to be honest, I wouldn't have believed them if they did add any safety markings lol
haha, yeah, I have at least one of their adapters to look at, maybe two. I need to get more videos done... I am accumulating untested adapters faster than I can make videos.
I need a power brick for my Nitecore ums2 imr charger and phone. Now i use an apple 20w butt i’ts to slow. It needs to suport qc 2, a minimum of 18 watts and 1-2 usb A ports(i only use usb A) . What du you recomend, have lookt att the anker 65w charger butt it only has one usb A port.
If you need QC, Baseus 100W Gan3 desktop adapter.
Hi, thanks for the work you do.
Do you primarily test with 110/120V AC? How does running the devices at 220-240V affect the scores? Better/worse efficiencies, power factor, idle, etc?
In a previous video, you mentioned that the Shargeek 140 charger is likely the same as the idmix 140 charger, right?
So, that means the Shargeek 140 is in the middle of the pack, right? Is it still good then?
Thanks in advance.
I test on both sometimes. There are differences and with different technology supplies it will be a bigger differences. A non-PFC unit will be worse on 230V for basically all the metrics except real power efficiency can be higher. A PFC unit will be basically the same except the idle power will be worse. The EU standard for power supplies is the same power level as US standard but obviously no one follows that since nearly anything 65W and up won't pass.
The Shargeek 140W should be fine, of course I am judging a book by its cover, but I tested 8 or so with that same arrangement and they were all near identical.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for the info.
So do u mean the EU standard demands the same level of efficiency as the US standards? And with higher mains voltage in the EU at 220 to 240V, the standards will be more difficult to meet?
Would love to see a review of the Innergie C6, Delta produces OEM adapters for a ton of big brands so they look like they know what they're doing!
I think I answered this in another thread.
what usb c to c cable would you reccomend? I like the ones that have the mini watt display so i can "fact check" the charger and cable. I have a laptop that has a 100w power requirement
USB cables 4: ruclips.net/video/HMqaw0I97zk/видео.html
@@AllThingsOnePlace oops, thank you. Do you plan on reviewing any when a screen showing watts?
Brilliant reviews!! Are you aware of any anker or ugreen chargers that could help me here for this scenario?
I have a hard drive dock plugged in PORT 1 (which need consistant power as its a hard drive), If i plug in something to PORT 2, it re-distributes the power which in turn cuts the power to PORT 1 (for a second), or if i have a device already plugged in and i turn it on, it does the same. I wouldnt mind a charger in which the cables are all taken up, but soon as i switch it one.. dont want it to affect PORT 1. Any advice appreciated.
Yeah, it’s a typical problem. For something mission critical it is safest to have a dedicated adapter for it. Then let the other usb things fight for operation but side line I want to make a thing that just holds the port up for long enough so it can renegotiate without dropping voltage. Some of the big adapters will keep port one on no matter what, like the anker 240w adapter. But to use that port for a hard drive only is a bit of a waste.
1:17 "I haven't seen any devices that supply more than 28 Volts yet"
Framework 16 laptop comes with a PD 3.1 180W USB C charger at 36V 5A. The Framework 16 promises to accept up to a 240W 48V 5A PD 3.1 charger.
Get one of those chargers if possible and try it out, its the bleeding edge of tech! (I don't have one)
I don't think anyone outside of Framework has their 36V EPS charger. The Framework 16 hasn't shipped yet.
@@claykin1 Ouch forgot about that
But yeah, when those are out, I absolutely want to get one and put it through some testing. The smaller Framework adapter was very well made.
Hi super video ....im travelling ,i just brought the zmi power bank on your recommendations , whats a good charger to go with this for travel ...at the moment i have an anker 65:watt charger only 1 type c port and 2 type A ports....is there anthing you can recommend ?,please maybe with extra type c ports with good power watts... Thanks
I mean if the 65W charger is working I would say keep it until it either breaks or doesn't do the job anymore. If you need a few more watts the Baseus 100W desktop GaN3 is pretty good for a cabled adapter, and the Anker 100W prime isn't bad if you want a more portable option.
Probably one of the best channels comparing USB adapters. I used to think that they were all the same if they have the same power rating and specs.
Can you do a review comparing gan3 vs gan5 adapters? Especially the baseus ones? I've been looking for detailed gan5 reviews
Yeah, it's really difficult to get hands on with some GaN5 stuff. I did the slim power adapter video where I do look at a GaN5 from Baseus. It's a well built adapter, but it isn't a good adapter performance wise. So, from that one time look, it looks like GaN5 is just number go up. They didn't change anything, or made it slightly cheaper and worse.
Great video!
I was wondering if there is a recommendation to having a charger with 6 to 8 USB-C ports.
The purpose is to charge iPhones, watches, tablets... its not required to charge a laptop.
Yeah, there are a few sketchy adapters out there with lots of ports. I haven't found a good one yet.
i need a pd charger for msi stealth studio 16 which supports 100w pd charging (20@5A) so which one should i go for not need facy stuff nut two ports will work one for laptop and one for just charging s22 ulta so i think i need a bit more than 100 watts please suggest
The Satechi 165W may fit the bill. The Anker 120 or 150W adapters may also be an option. All three top out at 100W PD charging on one port and have some buffer for other devices or so they don't get too hot in use.
I recently bought one of those usb voltmeter/ammeters that can be plugged between the charger and the usb cable to display the current and voltage. I was wondering how i would be able to verify whether a certain power source supports PD PPS? What would be the expected output values? I've gone around and tested all my existing chargers and most of them only reach about 9V 1.6A so only about 15W with my samsung s21, which is supposed to support pd pps to 25w. even though some of them do display the "super fast charging" animation when plugged in, it doesnt seem to be reaching 25w?
There is a charging power limit in settings for Samsung devices. That could be one reason but it may also be true that the devices don't have PPS. 9V sounds correct though but it may be the current limit of each charger that is being hit instead. I use the PD trigger board which provides a different color LED to indicate the different modes of operation.
Any alternative to Anker A2123? It would be great to have something in the same form factor with as many USB ports as possible with QC3 and higher output of at least 20w per port
Yeah, that's an interesting market for sure. I like the Anker in that case because it probably is a safe and functional product. I have found a lot of bad stuff in the many port arena. It will be a while before I get into something like that since I don't have enough testing equipment to test 8, 10 or more ports at once.
Thank you, Is it possible to recommend 30w~45w,2 (type c )port with fold-up plug ,which one is better?
I did a 30 watt video not too long ago. At 45 watts, Samsung adapters or the Anker Nano II.
Thankyou 🙏
You're welcome.
I use an HP EliteBook 840 G5 and it's worked fine with the Apple USB C charger they ship with the M1 Air even though it's only 25W (if I remember correctly).
I'm looking around for something similar around 40W, and as small as possible, it's annoying that there's no guarantee that what I buy will work.
Yeah, which is why I ended up using the adapter cable.
Hi, what do you think is better between Anker 737 (120W) and the new Anker 100W? Thanks.
Someone else just asked this question no a different video. I think this video answers that though, the 100W is in the top spot. The other is good but I think, opinion, the new 100W is better.
Hi, this is informative!! Can you tell what brand/model usbc to barrel cable are you using
Unfortunately, it's a game of whack a mole. All the ones I bought are not available anymore and they continuously shift in and out of availability and brand names...
Thanks
Very interesting video!
I'm still thinking wich one should I buy, as I'd like to be able to charge both a 65w phone and 65w laptop, with a power adapter as well as a powerbank.
My main concern is loosing charging performance because of the temps, I dont mind much them being high, but if they make the charging speed slower it becomes a problem😅
Any idea? I was thinking of the ZMI Powerpack no.20 and the Ugreen nexode pro 160w, but idk if thats a good choice, I'd like to have a 100w (or higher) port too in case I bought a higher wattage phone, wich I doubt, but just in case
Yeah, multiport devices are tough. Also, a 65W phone charge is difficult since the protocol is likely not going to be compatible with the bulk of chargers, the ZMi might work though as the portable battery component. But yeah, I use a 165W adapter as a daily driver and it probably maxes out at 75 watts in my daily use.
I bought the Baseus 100W based on your review. Sometimes I can see the USB-C charging switches off/on constantly for a few seconds until I unplug the charger from the electricity. After plugging it back in, it starts to charge correctly. (USB-C power bank or USB-C HP laptop). It happened also when it is the only device to charge. Do I have some faulty device?
It doesn't sound like there is anything wrong, there are some issues with negotiation sometimes on USB C and some devices, HP laptops can be one of them. Baseus supposedly has made this better in later GaN versions of the adapters but I have yet to test that.
hey, where did you find the usb-c to HP proprietary connector cable ?
The jungle site. Search for USB C to blue tip This is one I am using now: Affiliate link (free money for me if you use it, no extra cost to you): amzn.to/3WhdgUH Non affiliate link (some people don't like the idea of affiliate links, they're tracking me with their chips): www.amazon.com/Charging-Converter-Extension-Pavilion-Chromebook/dp/B091BSYYYX
I have macbook pro 14 M3 Max with Ip14 Pro max, Could you recommend me the best charger for my usecase? I would probably charge something random too on the go or use the port like external portable monitor that requires small power. Thanks in advance!
Yeah, sounds like you are that power user the 300W UGREEN is made for. Charging lots of big devices at maximum speed.
Aside from the google pixel charger, any other good recommendations for a 30W charger, or a 2 usb C charger 40-45W? We got iPhone 15s.
Yeah, the new UGREEN Nexode 30W is actually not bad. It's cheap, even in that video, I kind of hint at that, but the performance of that charger is very good. ruclips.net/video/ENmke0ltNdg/видео.html
Did you do test on electrical leakage through usb cable and adapter,if you done this on video which part did you explain this(link)?
I do limited tests on that, I don't really have a video explaining it.
Bought the Baseus 100w CCDK model with an EU plug based on this and your other videos. Unfortunately, it stops charging after some time and even replugging the USB C cable doesn’t help, it shuts off quickly again.
Case is barely warm so it isn’t overheating from what it seems. Only used 1 USB C port because this was supposed to be my desk laptop charger. Doesn’t happen with other chargers.
Did I just receive a bad one or is this usual?
Certainly not usual. There's always a case where things don't work correctly or as expected. It may not be the charger, some devices are not compatible, and it's random to find out which ones. What is the device being plugged in? Is the cable an E-marked cable ('100W or 240W' rated) ?
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thanks for the reply. A Macbook Pro 14 with a 100W cable. The charger was supposed to replace a 67W Xiaomi charger which works fine with the same cable and device. After sending back the Baseus charger, I am using the Xiaomi one again.
hello, i have a dell work laptop, iPad, iPhone 15 pro, apple watch and a macbook m1 air and i'm not sure what adapter to purchase if a 67 watt or a 100 watt?
That's a lot of devices! 100 watt for sure, still won't do all the devices at once.
Hi would you recommend a long term wattage of 300w even though I only charge 60w mostly (with option to charge 180w laptop just in case)?
Well, USB tops out at 240W in theory for one port. The 300W in this video is a gimmick, it overheated during testing, and they have a high failure rate.
It's a bit of a long shot, but do you think you would ever test the Raspberry Pi official wall chargers? They have three models, and with the millions in use daily, finding out the efficiency would be very beneficial to the Pi community. Many of us have a few of them running 24/7, and knowing if they are good or bad would be useful. They seem to build them to a high standard, but I have no way of testing them myself. They make 27w, 15w, and 12.5w. Thank for all your hard work.
Yeah, I want to test them. I'm fairly confident they are not going to be great. Since they only run at 5V the loss in the wiring will be high on the larger wattage ones, and the smaller ones will be worse because they are lower wattage adapters and it's inherent that other losses take over. I don't want to be too mean to the Rpi though, I like what they are doing on one hand. Maybe a comparison with PoE would be more fair. Or a 'best way to power your pi" type video. As opposed to a straight review.
Thanks for the reply, that might be a interesting video. Yes looking around I have 9 official Pi PSU running 24/7, so knowing my option might be good. I do have a couple running with PoE hats. Maybe they are not the best but they do build them very nice and they run cold to the touch. Not that that's a good test. Only the 27w seems to be a true PD compliant device its seems to do most modes @@AllThingsOnePlace
I have watched your videos about GaN charger but i still didn't understand as of today what is the best choice, specially for me that i travel alot so a 100-200w charger with multiple adapters or a c7 connection would be ideal. any suggestions off amazon without a budget limit? i have noticed the volta giga 200w but is not reviewed and therefore i do not know the quality.
Yeah, there are a lot of chargers on the market that are not great, finding the good ones is difficult, mostly everything is the same. Finding good charger that work internationally is even more work. The anker 100W charger is compact from this video and has a decent amount of power and high efficiency, but you'd need an adapter socket to use it of course. For the interchangeable plug types, I haven't found a truly great option yet. Unknowns include safety listings, this matters more than you think, leakage current, dc voltage stability, and efficiency on basically everything. So, sometimes it means contacting the manufacturer to get some more information. The Satechi 145W is coming soon though, which has international clip on plug things and has a decent wattage rating. I haven't even opened the box yet so no idea yet.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for the info, i didn't know that satechi was launching a 145W variant. I will wait the review and then eventually i will purchase if is a decent option.
Do you just get a 2 pin EU power cord for travel with the 165w desktop?
You can do that.
Thanks for the reviews! Where can I view the list with the chargers?
I am still working on that.
May I ask a specific question, like what is the best option I have if I want to use one of these to charge my razer blade 14 (3070, 2021)? What other things do I have to consider?
I'd like to be able to game if possible, even on extremely low setting.
Yeah, that's a power hungry device if you let it. So, if it supports USB PD 100 watt charging, I'd go for any 100W+ charger, probably something a bit larger, like the Anker 747 charger, still 100W max on one port but with 50 extra watts it will run at 100 watts for a long time or even one of the 140W chargers, even if you can't take advantage of the maximum speed.
You would have to limit the power profile to keep it from draining the battery while gaming.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you! Sending love and support from New Zealand!
Hi ! I bought a Ugreen 100w and every time I connect or disconnect any device, after a few seconds, all devices connected to the charger lose power for a few seconds and then get power again, is that normal or is it defective ? Is it killing cycles on my batteries ? Thank you !
Yeah, that’s normal. Some chargers are better than others. It would be nice if the disconnects and reconnects were more graceful. I haven’t heard of a device breaking from this though. It is a feature to adjust the power on multiple port usb chargers.
Why did you skip 65w? Is all option are generally bad? I am really looking a brick that can charge mac, ipad, an an iphone (doesn't have to be simultaneously). I hope we can discuss it!
I did skip 65W since I just didn't find any great ones at this time. Nothing new either. Hopefully, next time around there will be some better ones. 65W is probably a good choice for those devices if you only one to do one at a time.
Hi. I want a good clean power usb C 65w charger for my Lenovo carbon x1 gen 11 laptop, what do you recommend ?
I'm not really strong with Lenovo products so I lean on the manufacturer recommendations for that.
Hi ! I'm looking forward for power bank buying guide I want to know which power bank is the best. Thank you
It should be out now!
Years and years of phone chargers, and only this channel discerns quality ones: I've learnt A LOT from you.
Why aren't there any chargers that kill THD across the allowed operating load spec; I'm sure this is ruining phones, and probably the reason Apple now allows limit-charging to 80% on their iPhone 15s ? Maybe trickle charging, being on the low end of a charger's permitted load spec, is very noisy, and thus causes heat.
Trickle charging a lithium ion is never a good thing, you want to cut the charging off completely, if you don't that causes batteries to swell and fairly quickly too. The THD is really an AC effect. I haven't actually done a cross comparison of the noise on the inlet to the noise on the outlet. Some certainly do transfer more though, some less. I've certainly got the data so in time I want to do more analysis of that but time is the great crusher of dreams. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion of something else to look into!
@AllThingsOnePlace l am a bit confused 😂. If the lithium battery is nominal 3.7 and let's say it's currently at 4.0v if you use a PPS charger does that mean it charges at 4.0v and 11A to get to the 45w and if so why is it listed as 11v PPS is that just the max voltage ?
I have a pixel 8 pro and anker 120w ganprime not shure if the 11v PPS is the one l need or the 16v PPS and if 16V PPS is 11v PPS compliant by default ?
However l have a cable with a wattage display and it does hit 29w close enough to say it's just losses in cable ect ...but l want to know why it works ? Thanks in advance ! Love your videos!
The current is limited, so at 4V, it will be current limited to 5A with '45w' capable charger if directly connected. The phone still does some voltage conversion, so at full speed charging the Samsung will be asking for 9V and 5A from the charger. It will then drop the voltage down still and effectively yes, it will be putting 4V and 11A into the battery for a single cell design, some split the cell so can charge at higher voltages directly. Pixel 8 uses 11V PPS mode and 3A limit so 29W makes sense.
Hi, I'm new to your channel. I watched some parts of the videos and I didn't find any part talking about 65w so what is the best pick for 65W? Thanks in advance
Yeah, in the early days I used to say skip everything 65W, now I just avoid them. They're all the same, like just pick any 65W adapter, there's nothing to review in that category.
Cool. Thanks. Where do you get the barrel jack cable?
haha, everyone wants to know that... They disappear as fast as they appear, it's a game of find the cable. Anyway search for 'USB C to blue tip cable 100w' or similar and a bunch of options should pop up.
What about the Ugreen mini Nexode 30w usb c? It seems to support 5v9v12v15v20v. Is it a good buy?
Yeah, it's not bad. I think that video was after this one... I did a ugreen mega video and the 30w was the top dog of the bunch.
What's the USBC-Barell adapter cable, you're using? I couldn't find a proper braided one yet. But that one looks nice.
I can't find that that one anymore. I am still using the one in the video and it has actually held up well but the product category seems to disappear fast. A lot of people have asked about it and I can't seem to find a reputable brand that keeps the product around for more than a month.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceThat's sad. Thanks tough and please, keep us posted if you happen to find one again :D
Thank you again , will you be testing the slim q 240 watt 40 gbps braided cable?
I should, it is on the list. I need to get the new slimq charger too.
I’d recommend the Rocoren 100W over the Baseus, much the same performance but removable cable.
First of all for those of us not in the US, the Baseus is a non starter. But even for people in the US the ability to change the cable is handy for a few reasons:
1) Travelling abroad, just get the cable for your destination, costs just a few bucks.
2) Cat damages the cable, easy to replace.
3) can get different cable lengths, 3 meters for extra reach, yep or perhaps a very short 50cm cable to go on a desk and reduce cable clutter.
Chargers with removable cables just offer much greater flexibility IMO.
Baseus also has a 100W model without any cable that plugs directly into the wall. They call it "GaN5 Pro Fast Charger" and it seems to be the most compact solution of all three.
I carry it around with a long 100W nylon cable for my laptops and it works really well.
I hope to see a rewiew of it on this channel at some point. If they had to make compromises for the portability, I would love to know.
Edit: I just saw they reviewed it here: ruclips.net/video/eZjLvHkiCh8/видео.html
@@max-du9hq the most compact arent always the best.
Excluding the fact they would die faster(in theory ) due to thermals
Still waiting for baseus to put 120w ver up fs not sure whats holding them back looks like gan 5 pro 65w
@@amirulizzat2114 "most compact" is relative, it's significantly bigger than my 65W PD charger.
It doesn't get excessively hot, and either way it would have been mentioned in the video I linked.
The biggest benefit to me is that you lose the cable to mains entirely.
Thanks for the discussion around these different options. I do still need to get more 'GaN5' charges in. But yeah, thermals certainly need to be considered, less efficient and very compact adapters over heat faster and lead to shorter lifespans. It is fairly often a capacitor that fails and renders the whole adapter useless after only a short time of operating too hot.
How about our beloved 100w baseus 4 port(gan2)? still worth it?
Do you still recommend the Hyphen-X RH-PD100W ? Or does the Anker 2343 Beat it now ?
Is your PQS score how we should be interpreting all your data, as best to worst ?
The hyphen-X is still a decent charger, it does have high idle power usage compared with some of the newer offerings. But as a charger it is still fine. I still use mine once in a while. So, PQS is really a piece of the pie. It's really trying to show how devices consume AC power, higher is better, meaning the data at the socket (the way things are often measured) is more representative of the actual product performance. As PQS decreases, the device will actually consume additional power that isn't measured, on an individual device level this is small, on a household level, say 20 or 30 of these things scattered around it can be more like 10 - 15% of your electricity bill or worse if poor PQS choices are made. The aggregate is where it matters but I fail miserably at describing this.
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Well I will say this.
You expertise is on full display when you talk about these things.
And I am positive we all can tell you are passionate about this.
Since a lot of times we look towards a Subject Matter Expert (which you appear to be) your value is in your recommendations/opinion.
In my opinion, you should end all your videos with a clear and concise recommendation & ranking.
( a ranking system we can all easily access, would be GOLDEN. not just your website, which makes it hard to understand which charger is best and for what reasons)
You just did your best of 2023 list. But what happens next month if your favorite changes? Do we have to wait until the end of 2024 to find out?
Keep a updated list with rankings, that makes it easy for someone to find the best chargers. Even if you are hesitant to give a recommendation or opinion. You've reviewed, what? hundreds of chargers? You are officially the go to source on phone chargers. Embrace it, and give your opinion.
Hopefully this makes sense to, and Im not just rambling....
Can I use it for my 240w laptop? Which port should I use? Because 140w is the maximum of all ports. Hope you will answer my question. Thank you!!
It may work if your laptop has a USB PD port, it will only work up to 100 watts on one port though (macbook pro and unreleased framework are the only one's I've seen that support the 140W or more mode so far) so performance of the laptop will be very limited or it will drain the battery while using the laptop, even plugged in, if you are doing anything that needs that much power.
On the Satechi 165W charger, you say you "don't feel the tingle". I know exactly what you're talking about with some of my chargers while using my Macbook. What causes that?
This is leakage current from the mains through your body to earth. It is usually on the order of hundreds of microamps but enough that you can feel it. It can even mess with touch screens on devices if the leakage is too high. The coupling is often capacitive through a capacitor and the transformer inside a power adapter. This is why some adapters have a leakage path for that current to make it's way to ground though the brick instead of your body. Apple accomplishes this with the clip on extension cables that add a third pin, ground, to their adapters. This is a test I want to add.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceInteresting, because I actually notice it the most on my Apple 30W adapter with the 3-pin extension cord attached. Maybe something is wonky with it.
Can I ask if you could look into the Ugreen Cd 296 Travel 65 watt? I have it and would like to know if I should keep using it or not! Your reviews are very thorough and I feel much more informed after looking at your reviews.
I am worried about Ugreen after watching them now haha. I hope the one I have is somewhat safe. Thank you.
I'm not sure, I haven't looked at that one yet, but it looks like it isn't too expensive so I'll pick one up and find out.
@@AllThingsOnePlace You are a godsend! I tried to put the whole code, CD296-90490, that was in the aliexpress listing I bought it from, but google results shows nothing. It is the one that can change prongs between US, EU and UK outlets.
Thank you again!
Do you have a recommendation for a 65w charger with 3 ports? Was looking at anker and ugreen... I need it for travelling and 100w is just to big/heavy/expensive
I don't really. The 100W I recommended here weighs less and is smaller than a lot of 3 port 65W adapters. The price is the tough pill to swallow though. In the 65W category they are basically all the same so just pick one.
@@AllThingsOnePlace ok thank you
Which charger should I use for my S23 Ultra and 65w HP laptop? PPS seems tricky to find
The Anker 100W Prime probably fits that bill. Although the HP laptop can actually be trickier than the Samsung.
Whoa, AllThingsOnePlace, are you a fellow Canadian? 🤠 (noticed the Government of Canada pages @ 3:58)
No, NY, but it was a source that had some stats. They have decent listings of power adapters on the Canadian Government pages though.