I dremeled my tang off, installed a 1913 pic rail rear end cap & easily installed this stock. It was fairly easy and fun, never did anything like that bought the tool and got to work. You can do it 👍🏽
The American Zenitco stock. There's definitely going to be aftermarket parts made for this but as of right now, this is the most modular AK stock on the market and is superior to the Magpul Zhukov stocks.
@C l Right. See that's what I'm talking about. Thank you for adding to the conversation. Jesus I had to argue with someone why D16T that the Russians use is ass compared to this.
Things identified @ 0:36 with video paused: -Adjustable cheek riser -Adjustable LOP -Side folding -butt stock itself is also adjustable up and down with those 5 screw holes. -Sling QD I think? Basically a (hopefully improved) zenitco style stock.
I have their similar mount that takes an AR buffer tube (already had the BA brace) backing a PSA Jakl upper(300blk). Very rigid, stays folded as you say. Jakl rear Pic rail is tall enough to offer three viable mounting positions. Taking the lowest position for the tube enabled me to mount the optics right down on the deck. Super tight setup and vertically minimalist. Went to 20rd mag just to continue the trend. Flattened optics, 20 rd mag, brace folded, it's just tiny. All keyed by the Midwest mount.
Hey look! It's the zenitco pt1 we have at home. For real though, it looks sturdy, and I'm kinda glad they make a non folding version for folks who live where that's a no go.
I've been using MI for a decade and a half, even did some videos for them along time ago...for the most part thier accessories are the only ones I use..for the most part.
39 seconds in, I can see butt plate height adjustment, cheek riser height adjustment, QD slot, side folding, and LOP adjustment (unless that button is just for the side folding mechanism).
@@printingwithpeek4897 yeah… but I rather buy ammo and training tho. I also want to suppress my AKM which will run about $300-400 in gunsmith services and gas adjustable piston 🤦🏻♂️😮💨
@Jo Quin First of all, a gas piston should be able to be installed by you. That's not hard to do. The KNS design is easy. Secondly, training is awesome but you should go with the set up you intend to use. I made a whole AK tailored around what I wanted to build, from the ground up. This is why I always tell people to build not buy
@@printingwithpeek4897 yeah, and I gotta save up for my night vision too! 🥲Lol seriously though, I gotta re thread the muzzle and make sure it’s concentric to ensure no baffle strikes, something that a gunsmith has to do… kns piston is about $120 for the wasr… slowly but surely I’ll get my dream set up. Just took a carbine course with it and my AKM was kicking @$$! This new stock is in my wants list.
I've had mine since the first drop. It's decent. Comparing it to a real Zenit PT-1, it wobbles in same manner (up and down when extended), has a better telescoping release button (ZenitCo uses a goofy magnetic button that's been known to break), but the cheek riser screws aren't captive like on the PT-1. If you're adjusting the cheek riser in the field, it's easy to envisage losing those screws . The hinge mechanism is much better than the ZenitCo hinge, although most AKs don't have a picatinny rail from the factory.
Man your content has become some of my favorite recently. Ive been watching since the “over the beach” wombat days and It’s really come a long way. Props, from a fellow Ohio dude 🤙
Prices on firearm accessories is getting to be higher than boat dock gas. Midwest industries makes good product though. James Yeager always talked good about them. R.I.P. to James 🇺🇸🙏🏻 . I ain't heard any complaints from any other people about Midwest. Like to have AR made by them l settled for LWRC m6. IC. D.I. for $ 1100.
I sure would like to see an i stall video on one of these. I ordered it and didnt know i needed an picatinny end plate. And have no idea which one i need.
I want to know if the picatinny adapter fits in a milled receiver like the Arsenal Sam7r. I used a picatinny stock adapter for my Scar 16 to attach the A3 tactical stock as well as on my CZ Scorpion.
im left handed i have the pt-1 gen 2 no plans of buying another unless the price goes to what it was. this looks like a nice alternative. im just really curious if there is a narrow buttpad available aswell
I hope from now this level of engineering is going to be the standard for gun stocks. Also do they make them fold into either side or just to the left?
Got the stock and love it… now if someone would only make a 1913 adapter for fixed stock AKs that doesn’t require me to chop my rear tang on replace the whole freakin trunnion… if anyone knows of one I’m listening but I haven’t been able to find one.
I don’t understand the aversion to cutting the tang. It’s specially impossible to keep the tang and add a pic rail. The tang is longer than a picrail block
If this is as well made as the Zenitco stocks it is copying, it’ll be bomb proof. The price is not bad at all for what it is. Good job Midwest Industries.
@@printingwithpeek4897 I’ll respectfully disagree. Everything Zenitco makes is forged and milled aluminum D16T, a close analog to our 7075. However of the Midwest Industries stocks are the same durability, they’ll be great.
@Connor Burnes ummm....no it's not forged and milled. Who ever told you that straight up lied to you. First of all, D16T is the combination of low grade 2000 series with a 5000 series aluminum. Anything that has magnesium as a primary alloyant cannot be forged because of oxidation reactions which cause Class D fires. I'm a welding engineer.
@@printingwithpeek4897 If you’ve owned them, you’d see there is physically no way to extrude them into the shape they are. Either way, they’re a known bomb proof product, so if the MI product is anywhere near as good, it’ll be a good product.
@@connorburnes7697 yes you can extrud them. You extrude an overall shape and mill them. It's not hard. I'm not saying zenitco products are bad bit to call it better than what MI has is just disingenuous.
Please pay attention. The only polymer part on this stock is the cheek piece. This was discussed in the video and I believe it to be to correct material to make it from
I like the Alpha stuff and im a MWI fan for sure, but god damn it.... they don't offer these for the yugo rifles and because of that, I hope they get eaten by sharks. Sharknado style.
This thing folds way too easily. Not exactly ideal by any means. I own two of them and am very disappointed in how easy they fold from the deployed position.
Imma be real, that thing is ugly as sin. Don't get me wrong I am sure its got all the bells and whistles, but man is it missing the "je ne sais quoi " that Zenitco has.
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Will they offer this for models with tangs?
Ah, stay tuned laddy. Have I got something coming for you…
Tease.
Hopefully it puts it inline with the recoil
that was the dumbbest thing they did lmao. yeah lets not make it for the most common AK
Nope. That's the biggest downside to this stock. The fact that you have to cut and drill just to install.
I dremeled my tang off, installed a 1913 pic rail rear end cap & easily installed this stock. It was fairly easy and fun, never did anything like that bought the tool and got to work. You can do it 👍🏽
The American Zenitco stock. There's definitely going to be aftermarket parts made for this but as of right now, this is the most modular AK stock on the market and is superior to the Magpul Zhukov stocks.
Its clear this is also going to be a significantly lighter stock as well.
@C l Right. See that's what I'm talking about. Thank you for adding to the conversation. Jesus I had to argue with someone why D16T that the Russians use is ass compared to this.
PSA has a 1005copy to on the way
@@2000rayc ?
@@printingwithpeek4897 zenitco stock copy
Properly engineered as opposed to over engineered. Well said and I concur.
Things identified @ 0:36 with video paused:
-Adjustable cheek riser
-Adjustable LOP
-Side folding
-butt stock itself is also adjustable up and down with those 5 screw holes.
-Sling QD I think?
Basically a (hopefully improved) zenitco style stock.
solid info
Thank you for being here
I have their similar mount that takes an AR buffer tube (already had the BA brace) backing a PSA Jakl upper(300blk). Very rigid, stays folded as you say. Jakl rear Pic rail is tall enough to offer three viable mounting positions. Taking the lowest position for the tube enabled me to mount the optics right down on the deck. Super tight setup and vertically minimalist. Went to 20rd mag just to continue the trend. Flattened optics, 20 rd mag, brace folded, it's just tiny. All keyed by the Midwest mount.
Hey look! It's the zenitco pt1 we have at home. For real though, it looks sturdy, and I'm kinda glad they make a non folding version for folks who live where that's a no go.
Just be a cad and put it on. We don’t need sheep we need lions.
The commie states even regulate folding stocks?
Thanks for answering all the questions I had on this stock. That said, it's most impressive! Well done MidWest Industries.
Man between you and tfb the left hand jokes are always super funny and not tedious at all.
I like it. I want it. I don't have anything to mount it on. Looks like something the Terminator would use.
Have one on my MP5 currently. Works on any pic rail back, but it's a bit hefty!
The picatinny interface/ hinge is immediately recognizable as MW Ind.
I've been using MI for a decade and a half, even did some videos for them along time ago...for the most part thier accessories are the only ones I use..for the most part.
39 seconds in, I can see butt plate height adjustment, cheek riser height adjustment, QD slot, side folding, and LOP adjustment (unless that button is just for the side folding mechanism).
Would like this stock to replace my magpul Zhukov but dang it’s almost $300 ! 😢
$300 is nothing. Put some money aside and buy it once you're able to afford it. You'll thank yourself.
@@printingwithpeek4897 yeah… but I rather buy ammo and training tho. I also want to suppress my AKM which will run about $300-400 in gunsmith services and gas adjustable piston 🤦🏻♂️😮💨
@Jo Quin First of all, a gas piston should be able to be installed by you. That's not hard to do. The KNS design is easy. Secondly, training is awesome but you should go with the set up you intend to use. I made a whole AK tailored around what I wanted to build, from the ground up. This is why I always tell people to build not buy
@@printingwithpeek4897 yeah, and I gotta save up for my night vision too! 🥲Lol seriously though, I gotta re thread the muzzle and make sure it’s concentric to ensure no baffle strikes, something that a gunsmith has to do… kns piston is about $120 for the wasr… slowly but surely I’ll get my dream set up. Just took a carbine course with it and my AKM was kicking @$$! This new stock is in my wants list.
@Jo Quin Yea man, you can absolutely do it. Just give it some time. Don't make compromises. Never have and never will
Seems to be well thought out and made well.👍
I've had mine since the first drop. It's decent. Comparing it to a real Zenit PT-1, it wobbles in same manner (up and down when extended), has a better telescoping release button (ZenitCo uses a goofy magnetic button that's been known to break), but the cheek riser screws aren't captive like on the PT-1. If you're adjusting the cheek riser in the field, it's easy to envisage losing those screws . The hinge mechanism is much better than the ZenitCo hinge, although most AKs don't have a picatinny rail from the factory.
@@crispusattucks6094 Damn. It's almost as if you should have it already adjusted and stock to that.
@@crispusattucks6094 you done it yet?
Man your content has become some of my favorite recently. Ive been watching since the “over the beach” wombat days and It’s really come a long way. Props, from a fellow Ohio dude 🤙
Prices on firearm accessories is getting to be higher than boat dock gas. Midwest industries makes good product though. James Yeager always talked good about them. R.I.P. to James 🇺🇸🙏🏻 . I ain't heard any complaints from any other people about Midwest. Like to have AR made by them l settled for LWRC m6. IC. D.I. for $ 1100.
Same. Buddy gas a midwest freefloat m lok handguard on an AR. Sturdy.
Yea boat dock gas is absolutely retarted expensive
Thanks to RUclips we can all be lifelong Yeager students 🤙🏽
Not an AK guy, but typical of Midwest, they made a solid product
Technically, this isn’t strictly an AK stock.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel Fair point 👍
My major complaint with it has been how easily it folds, specifically when you don't want it to. They need a new locking system
I sure would like to see an i stall video on one of these. I ordered it and didnt know i needed an picatinny end plate. And have no idea which one i need.
When are the gonna come out with something like this for a Bulgarian milled Sam7R? Tired of no stock options!!!😢
The price is way more than it’s worth
Looks functional. What's the weight on that thing?
I want to know if the picatinny adapter fits in a milled receiver like the Arsenal Sam7r. I used a picatinny stock adapter for my Scar 16 to attach the A3 tactical stock as well as on my CZ Scorpion.
Wanted one of these till I found out how much they cost. Even the manufacturers who have good prices are getting higher
You can't afford it. That's completely fine. The price of this is appropriate for what you get though
just waiting for Midwest to send my top cover to build my Alpha. Have the stock and handguard already
But it needs to fit proper side folding trunions like the zenitco one does using that hinge that's in the gun already
Then get a 1913 4.5mm hinge. They make them.
Does it fit the Ruger PC carbine 9mm with adjustable stock?
im left handed
i have the pt-1 gen 2
no plans of buying another unless the price goes to what it was. this looks like a nice alternative.
im just really curious if there is a narrow buttpad available aswell
Did you have to cut the tang off and install a picatinny adapter for this stock?
Finally a American zenitco stock
I can't wait to try the alpha lineup
I hope from now this level of engineering is going to be the standard for gun stocks. Also do they make them fold into either side or just to the left?
The best stock ever!!!
Would be better if they made some for 4.5 or 5.5 receivers, WITHOUT needing an adapter
Honestly think slanted underfolders are the perfect stock angle
But they're not though.
It's like a skeletonized Zhukov with a cheek riser.
more like a Zenit PT-1 knockoff
I feel like it would look GREAT on a Cz scorpion, or like a tacticaled out modern AK
As a babyface, I love this. Looks solid with some good features. How are all those snagglybits on the beard?
Got the stock and love it… now if someone would only make a 1913 adapter for fixed stock AKs that doesn’t require me to chop my rear tang on replace the whole freakin trunnion… if anyone knows of one I’m listening but I haven’t been able to find one.
I don’t understand the aversion to cutting the tang. It’s specially impossible to keep the tang and add a pic rail. The tang is longer than a picrail block
Would this work on my MPA Defender?
On the one hand, it looks like a worthy Zentico competitor.
On the other hand, I don’t think it’s a 200+ stock
This is what is making me not wanting it.
oh no. he needs to get rid of that century ak before he dies
I identify that it looks like it's 3d printed and about to permanently fold on me the moment I really need it lmao
It’s made of aluminum
If this is as well made as the Zenitco stocks it is copying, it’ll be bomb proof. The price is not bad at all for what it is. Good job Midwest Industries.
This stock is way better than a Zenitco. Zenitco stocks are aluminum extruded.
@@printingwithpeek4897 I’ll respectfully disagree. Everything Zenitco makes is forged and milled aluminum D16T, a close analog to our 7075. However of the Midwest Industries stocks are the same durability, they’ll be great.
@Connor Burnes ummm....no it's not forged and milled. Who ever told you that straight up lied to you. First of all, D16T is the combination of low grade 2000 series with a 5000 series aluminum. Anything that has magnesium as a primary alloyant cannot be forged because of oxidation reactions which cause Class D fires.
I'm a welding engineer.
@@printingwithpeek4897 If you’ve owned them, you’d see there is physically no way to extrude them into the shape they are. Either way, they’re a known bomb proof product, so if the MI product is anywhere near as good, it’ll be a good product.
@@connorburnes7697 yes you can extrud them. You extrude an overall shape and mill them. It's not hard. I'm not saying zenitco products are bad bit to call it better than what MI has is just disingenuous.
it weights 1lb 05oz! 590 gr! it's crazy.
Put this on my Dakota Tactical MP5. Idc there's no rules. Anarchy. Fuckin slaps hard.
Skeletonized Ugg boot
Beauty!
I like it!
I suppose giant is a euphemism
$289 for a stock!!!! 😳
Considering it's a copy of a Zenitco stock that costs three times as much, not bad.
The PT stocks are insanely priced... Look at its competition
Try and buy an HK stock for that. Us roller lock delay bois have it bad.
Cool features and design!
@@stonewallsquad3343 The zenitco stocks were like 3-400 before the war, so eh
It's almost $300. Forget that.
Zenitco at home:
Can you put this on an Arsenal?
More MI shilling. Pretty crazy how paid off this guy is.
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I really like the beta alot better
Adjustable every-F***ING-thing. That's what I noticed.
Plz send me price this stock i am belong from pakistan
This has some metal on it but I hate plastic stocks. Will stick with my metal folding triangle stock.
Please pay attention. The only polymer part on this stock is the cheek piece. This was discussed in the video and I believe it to be to correct material to make it from
@@VSO_Gun_Channel seems like most people here didn’t finish the video and just commented after looking at it and thinking it’s all polymer
I like the Alpha stuff and im a MWI fan for sure, but god damn it.... they don't offer these for the yugo rifles and because of that, I hope they get eaten by sharks. Sharknado style.
Good video, good review. Well done. Too bad the gun used is doo doo.
Well done, Midwest. But ill pass on this no real deal here. Collapsed ar style stock is better and cheaper.
And this has a thinner profile which doesn't require a buffer tube. It's a much better deal.
Just another innovation, ma boy. Get yourself a reasonably priced stock that can do most of all a that.
@@The-other-Day-come Or I'll get myself this stock because it's a better stock.
looks easily breakable
same, i like Midwest products but looks flimsy
Where?
Right at the clamp
@@peterv1318 prove it
@@Kai-ky6tf - how can I prove it when I don’t do RUclips videos.
This thing folds way too easily. Not exactly ideal by any means. I own two of them and am very disappointed in how easy they fold from the deployed position.
Mfw an american company made a better Zenitco than Zenitco
It's not aesthetic.
It's an AK
Im not a woke leftists 😜
but Neither a wrong arm boy
Only left arm man 😊
Imma be real, that thing is ugly as sin.
Don't get me wrong I am sure its got all the bells and whistles, but man is it missing the "je ne sais quoi " that Zenitco has.
It’s a sad knock off of Zentico furniture.
Great… the commies are here
Hm