How to Use the fourth Valve on Tuba and Euphonium

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  • Опубликовано: 29 окт 2024

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  • @manuelramospaton8000
    @manuelramospaton8000 2 года назад +2

    I always played a 4 valve, then got my own euphonium years later and it had 3, didnt think it would be a big deal but not being able to do 4 and 24 i found myself struggling a lot with tuning so I borrowed the band's instrument again

  • @teozzipozzi6464
    @teozzipozzi6464 6 лет назад +7

    I started playing with an euph with 4 valves, but they were linear. So to get uesd to the 3+vertical 1 sistem I actually began playing the 4th valve with the index of my left hand. Not really the answer to your question but I guess someone could use this information. Awesome video dude, keep 'em coming!

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад

      Matteo Selvaggio I’ve seen others do that and they swear by it! Good call.
      And thank you :)

    • @cadoodle6522
      @cadoodle6522 2 года назад

      I was wondering this too, I’ve been a trombone player for 7 years but Need to cover the euphonium part, I have some fast runs so I was curious about finger timing and if using the Index rather than the Pinky would be faster.

  • @williamlittle9583
    @williamlittle9583 3 года назад +2

    Good to know that the 4 th valve is similar to the triggers on bass trombone, and i wont have to re-learn all my fingerings. Great vedio

  • @89Official20
    @89Official20 3 года назад +2

    My third valve got stuck very often so I was forced to use the fourth valve. when I was younger I would never use it but now I realize that it is a helpful asset

  • @edgarmoreno8803
    @edgarmoreno8803 6 лет назад +11

    Playing scales that involve the fourth valve really helps you to get used to it

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад +3

      Manspider Ball that’s what I did :)

  • @kotu000
    @kotu000 6 лет назад +6

    For me when I started trying to use the fourth valve, I just had to make a conscious decision to use it whenever I could. Also in places where fourth valve was easier and more convenient I would write it above my music just to make absolutely sure I would use it.

  • @wyattwahlgren8883
    @wyattwahlgren8883 6 лет назад +26

    The best way for me to get used to playing a fourth valve is to actually get a euphonium with a fourth valve.

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад +5

      ...Yeah that helps! lol

  • @yejh00290
    @yejh00290 4 года назад +3

    I've already forgot how I changed 1+3 to 4, because it's a very nature thing for me. But after 10 years I took euphonium again and played, I found it's 4 valves on top(not 3+1 type), it drove me crazy!!!! So I restarted to use 1+3 instead of 4th on top. But recently I bought BE165 so I'm back to 3+1 type again. LOL

  • @dapaulson1
    @dapaulson1 6 лет назад +1

    There were just too many pieces that required the 4th valve. Working to extend the chromatics to the lower ledger lines below the staff took a little extra work. Now those wonderful notes are part and parcel of all my playing. Thanks for a good overview.

  • @darvish2012
    @darvish2012 Год назад

    For me, I wanted a 5 valve tuba at the age of 11. That wasn't going to happen for good reasons. But my school had 3 and 4 valve tubas and 4 valve euphoniums. When we learned the first 5 notes, I noticed the euphoniums were using the 4th valve for C, B, F, and E. A year later, I was excited for the 4th valve!

  • @Geoff_Tuba_UK
    @Geoff_Tuba_UK 2 года назад

    I switched my fourth piston to a 4th rotary. Good decision. Works beautifully on my 1980s Besson tuba. Now use my 4v far more, especially when running around.

  • @AM-pl2pt
    @AM-pl2pt 5 лет назад

    I play both TC & BC scores. I try to use 4th valve as much as possible. I agree that 4th vale can help get a note in tune that might be a bit to much off using 1st & 3rd valve.
    I play an old Juipter JEP470 ( I call it my Chevy without hub caps). I had a brass instructor who pushed me to use the 4th valve. I am glad he did.

  • @Ginkgo_B
    @Ginkgo_B 6 лет назад +1

    I feel embarrassed as a Euphonium player to not have known this information. This video is a blessing!

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад

      Arnold Burtleg haha! No need to be embarrassed, I’m glad the video helped.

  • @mzacbrandenburg
    @mzacbrandenburg 6 лет назад

    I switched from a 3 valve BBb tuba to a 5 valve CC tuba. All of the fingerings were different, so I just memorized low “D” and low “G” as 4, etc. Awesome video!

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад

      Thanks! Good tip, thanks for sharing!

    • @leok5177
      @leok5177 6 лет назад +1

      Same I did too, what tuba do you play? I play a Meinl Weston 37.

  • @bryncornejo2506
    @bryncornejo2506 6 лет назад +1

    this is the most well explained in regards of this 4th valve of my tuba. haha all hands down to you sir ☺

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад

      Thanks man! Appreciate it!

  • @dogemusicproductions7444
    @dogemusicproductions7444 6 лет назад

    Personally, I use the 4th valve on my tuba a lot. I play C tuba, and 1|2|3 for my C# (B natural on BBb) usually is around 50 cents sharp. After watching this video, I used 2|4, and it was much better! Thank you for the tips!

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад

      Doge Music Productions glad to help! Thanks for checking out the video!!!

  • @ThatGuy-lv7ov
    @ThatGuy-lv7ov 5 лет назад

    Actually, I started playing the euphonium as a new instrument freshman year in high school and I asked the student helping me about it and he told me about it and I ended up learning (and kinda teaching him) about the lower note fingerings of the "ghost register"

  • @markthirkell7056
    @markthirkell7056 19 дней назад

    Started as a mature learner 7 years ago. Always on a 4 valve euphonium. I suggest students take the challenge to aim to play chromatic scales over 3+ octaves. "How many Bb (C treble) pitches can you hit?" Use a tuner whenever playing scales to check intonation /pitch. Can't be done without using a 4th valve!
    Started doubling on a 3 valve baritone (brass band) and find the absence of 4th valve frustrating.

  • @skellysnipergaming182
    @skellysnipergaming182 2 года назад

    i got a inline 4 valve half a year after i started playing so i kind of just used it whenever it was convenient

  • @paulroutledge4923
    @paulroutledge4923 6 лет назад

    B natural 2-4 tends to be 15 cents flat on my euphonium, kinda a small trade off. As for practicing with the 4th valve. The Chaconne from Holst 1st Suite in Eb works well, find some bassoon/ bass clarinet parts (or just tell your band teacher you can cover the part if you don't have a bassoon player), looking at some tuba parts and play it as written can help. The Brass Gym has exercises which go down to the pedal range.

  • @louisthomas367
    @louisthomas367 6 лет назад +6

    I found that it was easier to use the forth valve

  • @jasoncostello1535
    @jasoncostello1535 5 лет назад

    I try to use the 4th valve sparingly. My Besson Sovereign has a 4th valve slide thats too long so my C and F on the staff are naturally flat and my 1 and 3 for those notes are in tune so I’m a very rare exception

  • @omarthecerealkiller5758
    @omarthecerealkiller5758 3 года назад +1

    How can i play high notes. As i am really struggling with those right now

    • @austingreenway4261
      @austingreenway4261 3 года назад

      That is what I need too

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  3 года назад +1

      I always suggest a health diet of long tones, lip slurs, and patience. It is a muscle that helps us produce the sounds we need to creat, so if we work out that muscle it should help us do more work.
      I wish I could say something like "eat two raw eggs, and drink a mexican coke and youll be playing 4 octave scales in no time!" but I just don't believe that is the case.

  • @libertariancapitalist
    @libertariancapitalist 6 лет назад

    You should make a “How to use euphonium trigger” video

  • @Elemental029
    @Elemental029 4 года назад

    Me personally, for anyone that is kind of like me in this consent, i just went for it, i practically never was taught about it so I self learned that.

  • @uncbadguy
    @uncbadguy 5 лет назад

    I have a 4 valve Fluegelhorn to be delivered.
    I watched your vid and...……
    "Holy schitte I get it"

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  5 лет назад +1

      haha great I am glad it helped.

  • @jirehguy
    @jirehguy 6 лет назад +2

    I think I just mentally correctly myself and wrote 4 over Cs in the music until it became habitual.

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад

      Same here

    • @FilipKofodMusic
      @FilipKofodMusic 6 лет назад

      Is 4’th valve instead of C? (But why, cos’ C is with no fingers, right?)
      And what else notes can 4’th valve replace?
      (Sorry, Im a beginner;-)

  • @Knickname
    @Knickname 4 года назад

    Anyone know how to empty the spit valve for the 4th valve?

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  4 года назад +1

      Typically, I have to pull out my 4th valve slide to empty it.

    • @Knickname
      @Knickname 4 года назад

      @@AKCEuph ok thank you

  • @glorialoh7927
    @glorialoh7927 6 лет назад

    🌹🌹🌹

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  6 лет назад +1

      Gloria Loh :)

  • @tdoyr
    @tdoyr 3 года назад

    I just find it to be difficult to move my pinky independently with strength

  • @godzillapowerpufffan8142
    @godzillapowerpufffan8142 4 года назад

    I'm a euphonium player myself but except my euphonium has three valves instead of four

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  4 года назад

      Thats great! Glad you're playing Euphonium! Hopefully if you ever get a 4 valve one you can use this video to help you get the hang of the different fingerings! 😊

    • @godzillapowerpufffan8142
      @godzillapowerpufffan8142 4 года назад

      AKCEuph is the euphonium a type of tuba? Or a completely different instrument

    • @AKCEuph
      @AKCEuph  4 года назад +1

      @@godzillapowerpufffan8142 It is in the tuba family, some consider it a Tenor Tuba. =)

    • @godzillapowerpufffan8142
      @godzillapowerpufffan8142 4 года назад

      Thank you for telling me😊❤️️👍

  • @AKCEuph
    @AKCEuph  6 лет назад +3

    Those of you who have already started using the 4th valve, what tips do you have?

    • @nicholastrombone9899
      @nicholastrombone9899 6 лет назад

      Use the fourth valve for Bb to Eb trills so you can do them without moving valves

    • @thesaltysailor7000
      @thesaltysailor7000 6 лет назад

      First, I practice simple songs and scales with the forth valve and once I moved on, I started to use it with the songs I was actually playing for band and Symphony.
      Practice.

  • @oscarleamyodonovan2440
    @oscarleamyodonovan2440 6 лет назад +1

    Forced myself