Miscellaneous Myths: Aphrodite
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2019
- Okay, so maybe Dionysus was a little more complicated than we expected. But APHRODITE? REALLY?? All she does is set up cute couples and throw temper tantrums! How complicated can SHE be?
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Quick edit! Saw some comments cranky I didn't mention Cyprus. Sorry, guys, I only had so much time, and Cythera is physically the location of her oldest temple and the origin of her worship in ancient greece. Cyprus is sometimes seen as her birthplace, but it varies from myth to myth. Since I was covering the historical spread of her worship, I figured the REAL birthplace of her cult was worth more focus than the fictional one. 😉
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Someone: *Chooses to be virgin*
Aphrodite: *so you've chosen death*
Hey! I didn't choose to be virgin
She must not like Hestia, Athena or Artemis.
Weebs: *My time has come*
@@Silverwind87 I don't know much about her relationship with Hestia. But she HATED Athena and Artemis lol
@@amrabrook1612 prom queen vs jock
Ancient Greece: aphrodite can't be the goddess of love AND war. Those things just dont go together
Also ancient greece: let's make her do it with ares
*athenian gasp*
Yo
*GET THIS COMMENT UP THERE*
I feel like expecting THAT kind of philosophical consistency from Athenians is just going a wee bit too far.
Diogenes excepted, of course.
Spartans would probably say Athenians aren't real men.
Well, all is fair in love and war!
*Aphrodite:* Who are you?
*Astarte:* I'm you but a fighter
*Ishtar:* I'm you but _a damn queen_
*Areia:* I'm Astarte again
*Urania:* I'm you but a saint
*Pandemos:* I'm you but a sinner~
*Virgin Mary:* I'm not you but the Christians think I am
Holy maiden full of grace, punch the devil in the face
@@rampage75_25 I don’t why but I feel like that should be in one of Wilbur Soot’s songs
@@srininaveen7157 i found it under a medivial cover of "the only thing they fear is you", doom soundtrack
Inanna: So apparently some people think I am Ishtar as well…
It's fun bc in my language "areia" just means "sand"
Okay but actually though having a "Who's the hottest goddess?" contest and being surprised/upset someone chose the goddess of beauty and love is like having a "who's the best at hunting?" contest and being surprised that Artemis won. Like, I get it, having three women asking you who's the most attractive is a no win scenario, but still
Actually, I read that the Greeks considered Hera to be the most beautiful goddess. Which arguably does make sense, since she's the queen of the gods. Plus, several myths would have people declaring a certain woman is more beautiful than Aphrodite, suggesting that the Greeks believed she could be surpassed in the looks department.
afaik the "hottest goddess" is an interpretation, its equally valid to expand the adjective to define the "best" goddess or some other positive quality, so it makes more sense aphrodite wasn't the clear winner. also, the person above me had a good responses.
It's less "Is Aphrodite hot" and more "Do I want to anger the goddess of war and the queen of the gods?"
Yeah, just to pile on to what everybody else was already saying... Her being the goddess of love doesn't mean she's the goddess of anything associated with love. E.g. she's certainly not the goddess of faithfulness or stable relationships...
@@greenredblue She the goddess of love and beauty in a beauty contest. It wasn't a question of "who's the most faithful" or "who has the most stable relationships" (which, let's be real, is almost no one in Greek mythology)
Goddesses: "Which of us is most attractive?"
Zeus: "You're asking me to judge between my sister-wife, my daughter, and my niece?"
Goddesses: "Yeah."
Zeus: "Um … you know who'd be a better judge? Paris of Troy! Yeah …"
Actually, I believe Aphrodite is technically Zeus’ aunt.
@@wooyeah1738It depends. In the Hesiod she's born from Uranus' severed genitals, while in the Illiad she's Zeus' daughter with Dione.
Jamestown Sorry, Yeah. I just often prefer the idea that she’s made the way the Hesiod describes it, because A, it’s an interesting idea of what happened to the original dead daddy, and B, it makes it a tiny bit less weird that Zeus wants to get it on with her, because it’s not father and daughter anymore. It’s still weird, but less weird.
@@wooyeah1738 Zeus never did it with Aphrodite
Darren Lin Debatable, but even if he didn’t, he was attracted at certain points.
Aphrodite Urania: Love is a divine, transcendent thing
Aphrodite Pandemos: Love is passion and physical attraction
Aphrodite Areia: THIS IS SPARTA
‼️so does Aphrodite come off as that sorority girl who is now a bored and desperate housewife to anyone else? the whole unable to manage her own relationships but LOVES giving advice and helping others with their relationship problems?? sleeping with anyone but her husband?? very attractive yet weirdly jealous?
She is Athena, too. It's her divided yet again!
Aphrodite Aeria: Love is war
@@mephistopheleshellel693 devided state? (sorry Unwind reference)
@@mephistopheleshellel693 I always thought that Aphrodite personally helped Athena get her standing as it is as it would explain why there are 2 versions of Athena who were born before and after Hepestuas as the one born before Hephaestus was just Aphrodite seen as Athena
Athens: *at Aphrodite* you can't be the goddess of war, that's wrong you are a woman
Athena: *stares blankly at the city-state named after her*
Athena: *Maybe if I give them an olive tree they won't notice.*
Its not that she couldnt be a war goddess because she's a woman but rather because she's a goddess of war AND sex, which remove life and take it respectively, thus the inherent contradiction
@@averonisgaming9023 so basically being the goddess of war and sex cancels each other out
@@averonisgaming9023 I find that love in of itself is a battle
Athena would probably agree
Let's face it, Paris picked what he believed to be the least dangerous option, but forgot to take into account that this was Aphrodite he was dealing with...
*- Ruler of half a continent?* Assassinations and politics sound fun?
*- Wisdom and battle strategies?* Guess who's now responsible for the entire army?
*- Hot girlfriend?* Maybe some jealous guys, but at least it's not a war, right?
Hehe, right...?
My interpretation is that Paris thought he was in the wrong genre. Everybody who's ever read a fairy tale knows that pursuing power and knowledge is dangerous and amoral, but pursuing love makes you the good guy. Unfortunately, Ancient Greece works on different rules.
@@augustrempelewert4377 I think it was just a matter of education. Due to backstory, Paris had been raised by shepherds. If he'd been properly educated, he'd have recognized that he had the starring role in a Greek tragedy.
Paris is just a guy who had to choose. Remember Zeus not only pushed the responsibility to him but also bear the consequence.
I mean, Athena and Hera are dangerous enemies, but Aphrodite is so petty she'll straight up kill you. Athena doesn't seem like the revenge type to me, and maybe Zeus could convince Hera out of revenge?
@@mckenziebate2949 Hercules?
No one:
Aphrodite: wOOpS.......my rObeS.......acCiDenTAllY.......FEll.....WhaTeVEr SHalL I dO
@UC8E13w0VvVpUi4Gz57BF0dA fam that's maybe the most famous song of that genre, and that genre happens to be my favourite, so I've heard it maybe a hundred times. It completely fits, you're so right
“The fastest humper in the west”
@@mrendyman4824 i know what you should do steal some hide from artemis since you hate her guts😆😆😆😆😆
hey
don’t knock it till you try it
nudism is the shit
*Zeus
"Oh Aphrodite, you don't belong on the battlefield you silly, silly girl."
"Why?"
"Becuase women aren't allowed on the battlefield."
"Okay, but why is Athena on the battlefield then."
"Look imma be real with you, we already have at least two official war gods and that isn't even including aspects or other higher beings. Can you please just sit this one out."
Irishcrossing do you want to fighter a shipper? I hear they get violent
Goes full Ishtar and beats down the other gods and unleashes an army of zombies,
@@Gooberwares oh man you're right! Trust me fighting with my kind is life treatening, mostly when it comes to ships
tbh a lot of the celestial parts of the Iliad are the other gods complaining that Zeus lets Athena do whatever she wants because she's his favorite. There's even a part that's literally the Gordon Ramsay "oh precious/you donkey" meme with Athena and Ares.
@@just_radical I thought Artemis was his favorite? Wasn't there a pophcey that she would be Zeus's equal and her unborn brother greater?
I almost wonder if her "Aphrodite Areia" epithet might have influenced her trysts with Ares. As a Goddess of Love and War, it'd be unsurprising that she'd also be down for some fun for the native Greek God of War.
Yeah and then she could take advantage of her husband to make weapons
Considering a lot of Ishtar and Ereshkigal's myths get sewn together, and Ereshkigal shacked up with the god of war and plague, and Aphrodite is kinda-sorta Ishtar...makes sense.
Mythology is weird, yo.
@@ave8685, that's actually what nearly happened with Athena and Hephaestus, but then Aphrodite came along and saw what fine work he could do for her jewelry. Aphrodite Areia only met Ares, so he'd probably be her provider of that kind of thing.
@@kyuven
^ This! Mythology gets weird the more you go down into the rabbit hole.
@@glasscardproductions4736 Athena and Hephaestus never had intimate relations, kinda defeats the virgin goddess thing. He tried to assault her once which ended up impregnating Gaia and Athena raised the subsequent child but that's the closest thing to happen. Not sure about the jewelry bit, I've only seen versions where Zeus sets them up out of fear or some similar negative emotion of Aphrodite.
If Aphrodite was a real person she’d either be that “YOU JUST GOT MARRIED? WHEN ARE YOU GONNA HAVE KIDS?!” person or the “So I just set you up on a date with this random discord mod :3”
Why not both?
She wouldn't be the person to say, “YOU JUST GOT MARRIED? WHEN ARE YOU GONNA HAVE KIDS?!”
She would immediately jump "WHEN ARE YOU GONNA HAVE GRAND KIDS?!"
she seems much more motherly in the modern hellenist view, maybe the centuries have mellowed her out..?
*Singlehandedly kickstarts an entire war*
"Teehee, can't help being a Gemini"
Omfg I am Dying
David Hayward honestly I’m a Gemini and this is kinda wayyy too accurate
Hilariously enough, the Gemini brothers (Castor & Pollux) were the brothers of Helen of Troy
girls literally run over a whole sidewalk of pedestrians and say "cant help being an aquarium"
I’m dying help
Aphrodite Areia, Ishtar, and Astarte: Because love is a battlefield.
Best pun
Well well well do these three are gonna enjoy watching Kaguya-sama together
"Stabbed through the heart, and you're to blame, Aphrodite is her name."
Benatar too
Wait, my firstborn brothers (astartes) are named after a goddess of LOVE!? Grandfather has a sense of humor!
Eris yelling "Street Smarts!" As she throws the apple is to good😂
I'm glad I wasn't the only one to see it
Same!!!
Actually in Spartan Culture the wife/mother of the household is often revered. They were said to have political power and were the ones in charge back home. I read somewhere that a Spartan's biggest disgrace is being divorced by their wife.
So Aphrodite in Sparta being a War-Mother as well as Love/Fertility makes perfect sense.
nice
Literally all of Greece: "You know, not every god/goddess needs to be related to war, right?"
Sparta: aggressive warrior gasps!
Vikings: "Don't listen to them Sparta!"
But... but... shouldn't EVERYTHING be war?!?!...
@@gabriel300010 So did the Vikings thought.
Wasn't the Norse god of love notably a man?
they did have some non war gods.
@@KaiTenSatsuma I believe he is. Funny thing with Norse mythology is that almost any deity is ALSO the deity of some aspect of war xD like Oden: poetry? Sure! Knowledge? Bloody hell, yes! War? Why the heck not?!
makes her relationship with Ares make a lot of sense too being a war god originally
...
that sexy time would be arousing and terrifying both at once.
All is fair in love and war... o
But they are opposed in how they wage it.
Athena's the clever and cunning tactician.
Ares is the brutal warmonger
@@alecchristiaen4856 And Aphrodite wrecks you just because she feels like it. No, plan, no forethought, no motive;just he pure chaos she inherited for Ishtar.
Two things never change; love and war
Red getting increasingly angry over the constant need for tit-censorship is the funniest thing in this video
I had to keep pausing the video to read them. Do not regret it! They were hilarious!
Two things that occurred to me that I’m pretty sure aren’t in the video
1. While Aphrodite’s direct war connections were erased, they lived on in her romance with Ares, something that likely didn’t exist in the precursor dirties where she was the goddess of war.
2. Zeus’ comment about Aphrodite not belonging on the battlefield might have served a dual purpose in also suggesting that love didn’t have a place on the battlefield, either between sides or also possibly to encourage the very gay greeks to not seek out romance with the other soldiers and disrupt the larger structure of loyalty in the army.
Err re 2 the Greeks in this era saw comradely love relationships as essential to keeping a tight phalanx. Not disruptive as the tactics were collective & absolutely rigid. Pun intended.
@@crhu319 you fight extra hard when your beloved is right next to you fighting as well and if you fail he dies as well
Example A) Look what Paras did to his homeland in the name of "love".
Example B) Who wants to watch their lover die like Achilles and Patroclus?
@@PyrusFlamebornehe, “extra hard”.
Yes, I know, I’m very mature.
@@crhu319 Wrong. Completely the wrong era of greek battle.
New headcanon: the "previous versions" of the Olympians continue to exist as facets of the god in question's personality.
Aphrodite:
Aphrodite: "Oh, teehee, I don't know what I was thinking!"
Aphrodite Areia, literally the second Zeus' back is turned: *"Just as planned."*
I like this one. Though, I kind of think that part of the reason Aphrodite messes with everyone is that she was ticked that her Goddess of War status was taken from her
All the Greek gods have DID then
Could even take this further. All part of the plan to forge herself an empire based on her son, What with Aeneas and all.
@@kingofthings7929 few century later Rome pops up
Aphrodite/Venus with ominous Kira face: Just as Planed ;)
Alternatively, she caused the Trojan War, but had historians write that dialogue to trick everyone into thinking she _couldn’t possibly_ be behind it.
Sparta: All gods are war gods!
Rest of greece: that doesn't make any sens....
Norse: Heeeey! Up tops Sparta!
Is that why Kratos moved to Norse mythology?
@@greywalker505 pretty much
@@discmanthecdlord he is moving into shinto next
... im not one on war
but i’ll get my hands dirty if i have to ;)
@@rhys2275eeyyyyyy
I think it's funny that the Golden Apple competition started when Achilles' Parents got married, and ended many years later when Achilles had been born, grown up, and become a famous warrior. That means that Hera, Aphrodite, and Athena all fought over a stupid beauty contest for at least 20 YEARS.
I just realized that timeline makes no sense 💀
Well they are gods so their perception of time is different, 20 years for humans is a very long time while 20 years for gods are just a few days
@@aina____yea they got all the time in the universe to ponder and seethe while humans gotta forgive and forget before we wither away with our senior citizen’s discount
Closer to 17 years as Achilles was 16 when he went to Troy.
Aphrodite was married to Hephaestus, true, but people seem to forget that she was FORCED to marry Hephaestus when Hera was fused to a cursed throne, that he made as payback for throwing him like he was last week's mushu pork. Not only that, but some tellings say that she didn't really like Hephaestus that much, even though Hephaestus treated her well. So when she started sleeping with Ares, she was bummed out because Hephaestus was always busy at his forge instead of spending time with his wife. Also, she presided over beauty, so she appreciated all kinds of beauty (take the tale of Pygmalion), including male beauty, which, to Aphrodite, Ares was a picture perfect example of. In the end, Ares and Aphrodite were a better match for each other. Also, if anyone knows anything about being an unfaithful spouse, it's Zeus.
Aphrodite: **Tee-hee~ totally a ship-queen**
Aphrodite's alt account: **THIS IS SPAAAARTAAA BITCH!!**
Aphrodite on her "official" account, which is monitored by her dad: *oh yes, I'm so into purity and morality*
@@georgeuferov1497 her dad is dead tho so that's not possible
@@whytho1534 I'd say, that in this version her dad is Zeus, but he's obviously won't give a shit about her daughter's shenanigans.
Also Uranus is not dead, he's just castrated, but he's still kinda exist in a form of the sky
THIS
IS
SPARTAAAAAAAAGAHAHHGGAAAAAAAHHHAAAIPSDLK;DNSVBLIDKBIPLKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
-aphrodite areia
@@whytho1534 *wait isn’t her dad literally immortal?*
"The goddess of beauty and sex being simultaneously a goddess of war was... unlikely to bother the Spartans."
A fantastic understatement.
Areia: "Marry fuck kill!"
Random person: "Oh...I love that game!"
Areia: "Game?"
@@HaydenX Isn't the game "fuck, marry, kill" in that order? It's nitpicky, but changing the order has some ironic implications.
@@dungeonmaster3464 I've personally heard at least a dozen different variations on it including "bed, wed, behead", "snuggle, snog, stab", and all combinations of "fuck, marry, kill", "marry, fuck, kill" and "kill, fuck, marry". I'm not too worried about the order...just like the phrase "what goes around, comes around" can also be "what comes around, goes around".
@@HaydenX Okay. I never really paid much attention to it or sought it out, so I only knew one variation.
@@HaydenX "wed, bed, behead" is Henry VIII
Athena, Aphrodite, Hera: *fighting on who is the hottest*
Hera: Hey Artemis! Wanna compete with us??
Artemis: Nope! I'm busy! *continues to watch ducklings along with Apollo, Hermes and Dionysus*
She would keep one and bring it to uhhh yeah I give up trying to remember how to spell Olympus
Oh
Sounds absolutly adorable
I can't draw but I need to see fanart of this-
More like *continues to absolutely enjoy the sight of Apollo, Hermes and Dionysus being absolutely drunk off their asses*
Persephone also dodged this one. I guess they chilled for the whole Trojan war making arrows, popcorn and oars for the overloaded ships of dead crossing the Styx. Archery and funerals definitely got a massive boost in funding at this time. So maybe Eris worked for them lol.
I feel like the most consistent thing about Aphrodite is that she is completely based around and driven by EMOTION. Any emotion, love, grief, whatever she feels at the moment is her sole drive. I like to believe that she just represents emotions as a whole, but specifically in the Love/Envy Lust/Disgust emotional circles.
And that is why I relate to and favor Aphrodite above the other Greek/Roman gods, because (partially bc of neurodivergency) I am driven by emotion and just like Aphrodite, my emotions are dysregulated and can get me into trouble because my emotions are much stronger than the situation would allow in most occasions.
I also look like Aphrodite's common depictions, so that might be a factor lol. But If I were to choose a patron goddess, it would be her.
I mean this in the best possible way but "Yeah I look like Aphrodite" is a good way to get yourself a visit from Mrs. Areia
Um, hate to break it to you, but having Aphrodite as your patron goddess might work out poorly... Just because you're alike doesn't mean she won't screw you over.
@@elizak4628
"having Aphrodite as your patron goddess might work out poorly"
Rome: *Laughs in Latin*
@@elizak4628 thats not how it works, these gods and goddesses were worshipped and worked with for centuries. modern pagans exist and continue to serve or respect aphrodite in their practice. it’s not any more dangerous than being a christian and following god or hindu and following their own gods and goddesses.
@@j1430yeah within the context of Hellenistic polytheism/paganism (it has lots of names, insert your preference) most members take mythology as figurative. but I think they might just be taking it literally
Zeus: *tears his siblings out of his father's stomach and overthrows them*
Artemis: *breaks free of her father's head*
Aphrodite: B A T H B O M B B A L L S A C K
Judah Osboja Athena is the one who came out of her father head.
Athena*
Judah Osboja Artemis and Apollo: hatches from eggs
I think it was Athena???
Maybe you meant Athena instead of Artemis?
"Let's be real, having the goddesses of rulership and battle tactics opposing you in a war is not a good thing."
Aphrodite Areia: "Heard you were talking shit."
I think Aphrodite's role in that story would've been a lot more interesting if the kept her Areia traits.
@@dungeonmaster3464 but i much prefer to see her graceful beauty traits while elegantly joining the war its like her character in smite uwu
@@happyfurryOwO you came here from smite too? Aphrodite is so annoying in smite 😩😡
But then again Aphrodite Areia was very niche back then
Venus ultimately won that conflict when Rome annexed the bickering Greek city states and rendered them largely irrelevant for the next 1000 years.
Literally anyone: **is single**
Aphrodite: and I took that personally
Aphrodite: Goddess of Love and Beauty
Asexuals: *Exist*
Aphrodite: *So, you have chosen: DEATH*
Asexuals: exist
Aphrodite: wait thats illegal
Wow Aphrodite.. just wow
You may have a point Some Random Commenter
@@threateningfeathers4210 fine by me. Aphrodite has her ships (some of which are on fire) we have hunting and new ways to prepare beef and mutton once we hunt it
NOOO I CANT GO BACK JAIL!
YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!
So the moon is illegal now I guess
Aromantics, not asexual. Asexual means you have no primary sexual characteristics, aka genitalia.
“She would literally murder people to maintain her OTPs and NOTPs.”
Same
Same
_So you have chosen..... _*_Death_*
Fan fiction authors be like?
Toxic shippers be like
@@pastelloca6976 if you think she is bad our little cherub is worse than her even zeus is afraid of cupid do not be fulled by his chubby baby body he is a monster😈
Rewatching this I suddenly realized something. The fact Aphrodite had an epitaph of war is why she frequently hooked up with Ares the God of War. This was probably a form protest to keep the idea of love and war being linked still tied to Aphrodite.
Hm. Interesting observation.
You know, it might seem random to have a deity for boinking and fighting. But if I'm just speculating, the common thread of those two activities are PASSION, right? If you want to kill or sleep with a person, you are probably not emotionally distant about that fact.
Also note that Ares is the more primal, aggressive aspect of war, as opposed to Athena being the goddess of strategy and tactics.
What if Venus adopted Eros? Like she found him wandering around and was just, like, "Oh, child! Why are you wandering around? Are you lost? Where is your mother?"
Ero would be like "Um... I... have no mother?"
Aphrodite gasps "No mother?! This will not do! I am your mother now!"
So essentially Marie Antoinette
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 What do you mean? Marie Antoinette did this?
@@sceetherthenadder yes. Multiple times.
Venus is so Mother
@@sceetherthenadder She would adopt random orphans, let them live in the palace, pay for them to go to fancy boarding schools, ect. She put two girls through boarding school up until her (undeserved) death. She was actually an amazing person and it's so tragic that the people of France decided to make up all of this propaganda about her simply because they wanted to revolt like the American's just had against the British
Aphrodite actually CAN be classified as a war god, because of how many wars/ conflicts she started!
The goddess of ship wars.
Why is this so true!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
tee hee hee0705 and she did kinda started the Trojan war.
Trojan war and???
@@raspberrycrowns9494 All the Roman Conquests, technically.
"You painted a naked woman because you enjoyed looking at her, put a mirror in her hand and you called the painting 'Vanity', thus morally condemning the woman whose nakedness you had depicted for your own pleasure." -John Berger
Damn John Burger must've been bullied at school for that name
@@katie1925 Least his name wasn’t Burgermister Misterburger
nah Aphrodite was painted naked because shes legit the God of love sex and beauty and besides everyone during that time period liked to paint naked people for some weird reason
Didnt they paint literally EVERYONE naked
@@whytho1534 Not that weird a reason.
I love these god dissections! I would honestly love to see one about Hera. She’s the goddess of marriage, patron of kings, goddess of family, she’s awesome and powerful but often portrayed as vengeful and petty. I wonder if she has any deeper roots like Aphrodite
I see absolutely no problem with Aphrodite being a little..well, confused in terms of personality because she’s a love goddess. Love is incredibly fickle and subject to heavy variation.
Aphrodite 2.0:
Make love, not war.
Aphrodite Areia (AKA "OG Aphrodite"):
Why not both?
Eros: Chaos damn it mom/neice.
(Fiesta music)
Kali: Include dancing and I'm in!
Shiva:
Mommy, fuckin' step on me already!
@@emiljosefsson9149 Hades: You know despite the fact we had a sh*t first date I'm glade we keep this classy Perseph. (Suddenly you see he's wearing a gimp suit)
Athena: Your daughter.
Hera: Your wife.
Aphrodite: A fangirl.
Yikes. Yeah, good luck Zeus.
Aphrodite is also his daughter/auntie
@@amphioctopus conflicting origin stories is how
Hera is also his sister
Elninonumber1
*A L A B A M A 100*
Zeus is her father/uncle & nephew... I think this has gone far beyond Alabama. What's next? Zeus is a transsexual who reproduces with himself... to birth Athena?? And then Hera gets a botched surgery so her child comes out deformed... oh right...Hephaestus.
Honestly, if Paras had picked Athena he probably could’ve ended up with all of the stuff promised to him by Hera and Aphrodite as well if you think about it. 🤔
Yeah but it would take time
Yeah LOL Take it by force.
If I remember my old literature class correctly, apparently part of the myth said Hera cursed any of Paras' children to be stillborn, and Athena cursed him to lose every battle he fought in. You can probably imagine what Aphrodite would have cursed him with had she not be chosen
There was literally no way to win in that situation.
Probably should have tried a Styx oath before he made a choice
Interesting that in Rome, Aphrodite (Venus) kind took the place of Hera (Juno) as the queen goddess and mother of the civilisation, because they are in direct conflict in the Aenead.
Something hilarious I found: Aphrodite had a child with Hermes, and it was literally named Hermaphrodites. This feels appropriate, considering Aphrodite is basically the goddess of shipping.
EDIT: I am aware of the actual meaning of the word "hermaphrodite," although I wasn't when I first wrote this comment.
Dionysus also slept with Aphrodite even though she's technically his great grandmother
@@SM-qv2om I would like to not think about that
@@scooperdooper4097 hera and zeus are married and siblings
@@meaninglesscommenter8457 Gaya and Ueraunos are married and Gaya is technically Ueraunos’ mom
funny enough, that's how we got the word hermaphrodite, since the child had both sets of genitals
"All is fair in love and war."
-Aphrodite Areia, probably
This one, Dionysus, Loki, and Persephone and Hades videos are my favourite. Love looking at all the history and syncretism.
there was a male hunter of artemis? Dang that's freaking awesome.
He was one of the few guys who was really awesome towards women
Yeah his mom was an Amazon so that tracks
Dammit, my Percy Jackson OC I made in middle school didn't conflict with canon after all!
@@DinsRune yep!
damn i wish i could be a male hunter of artemis, would it count since im ftm... would i be allowed
Now I'm just imagining a scene in some mythology-based fiction that goes like:
Eros: (backed into a corner by some incredibly dangerous and powerful force) I didn't want to have to do this... but you've left me with no choice. (takes a deep breath) MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
Aphrodite: (materializes behind said threat and painfully grips their shoulder) Tell me... are you familiar with the phrase, *"love hurts?"*
I love this tell me more
Proceeds to sick like a entire town of love sick/enraged humans onto that force, then when that doesn't work just proceeds to go into war mode and absolutely destroys the enemy
So your saying Eros is a stand user????
*APHRODITE AREIA INTENSIFIES*
THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN SUMN OMG MAYBE OLYMPUS LORE
Thinking of Aphrodite as a war goddess puts a slightly different perspective on the Judgement of Paris. He has to choose not between three powerful goddesses, but between three powerful WAR goddesses. No matter who he chose, it was going to end in conflict.
"All is fair in love and war" A goddess of both would be fairest of them all - Aphrodite probably
“Bang bang into the room”
**Three goddesses jump in front of poor Paris**
Shoto Todoroki SOMETHING’S WRONG, I CAN FEEL ITt
Shoto Todoroki: gawd yes-NO I DIDNT CALL UPON YOU APHRODITE. GOD DAM-
SHOTOOOOOOOO
Pretty much the gods in general
papuruheizu. Ya know when I first saw this I had no idea what ur comment meant,but now I have da knowledge, of my hero academia
“Amazingly, the bath bomb ballsack is the less disturbing version of the legend.” That alone earned you another subscriber
Yayyy! Welcome to the subscriber club
I bust out laughing at “bath bomb ballsack”
i would want that
Yeah, definetly less disturbing than a Hitite God practicing cock and ball torture with his mouth and roleplaying as a seahorse
@@nightshade_v76 BUSTT?????1!!!!1!
Aphrodite: “Which version of my birth story do you want?”
Me: “… None?”
Aphrodite: “So the bath-bomb balls one, great.”
Me: *Confused screaming*
Also sidenote that joke killed me 😂
1:11 if Zeus were anyone but Zeus, the safe answer would have been "my beautiful wife, whom I love and adore"
But it's Zeus so no one would buy that.
She didn't have a childhood? That explains a lot.
Talk about the daddy issues while your at it lol.
In a way they are the two extremes. One who is pure maturity and rules, and the other is a immature party girl. (I know this is star from accurate. I'm just using the base impressions of these goddesses so this isnt as long as the video itself.)
Honestly the only goddesses whose childhood is really emphasized are Artemis, (whose virgin hunter aspect means she’s frequently depicted as a young girl) and sometimes Persephone (often she’s kidnapped by Hades while still young, representing the youthful qualities of Spring.)
By contrast many of the male gods have stories about them as youths, though Dionysus definitely has the most defined childhood since he spent most of it as a mortal and adventuring like any good demigod should do.
@LagiNaLangAko23 yeah but she could have gained knowledge while she was in their. I mean most of the gods were in kronos body since birth. They grew up and where knowledgeable. Aphrodite was brought up from seafoam. Dionysus and athena were stuck in zues it doesn't mean they were without knowledge.
Mo1Ya true
"bath bomb ballsack" is a sentence I never thought I would hear.
Why were you thinking that?
At least not on this channel.
Its the best type of bath bomb for guys and lesbians, because when you throw it into the water, not only do you get a spectacular blast of color, you also get a beautiful girl.
Same
And not regret
Aphrodite: the embodiment of "Now kiss"
When you think about the fact that Aphrodite was originally a War Goddess her affair with Ares makes abit more sense now
Can't wait until Persephone gets a video
ya maybe OSP can tell us why all the gods gave her there children when they needed to be hide. Every video red always talking about this god and that god gave perseph there child to care for lol XP i find it soo funny
@@wisewillow7530 Probally because no one wants to mess with hades
@Squidward i know what about hades and persephone in one video
@@jadefields9020 I think Red already made one. The underworld myths video.
YES! I’ve seen so many things on the internet that contradict each other. But I’m too lazy to actually look it up myself. 🤷🏻♀️
quote of the day "the bath bomb ballsack is the least disturbing version"
I died when she said that. It was amazing 😂
It sounds like a very disturbing “toy”
sidenote: “eating egypt”
That alone made me subscribe. Funny line, great delivery
Ace Blazer 😂
I wish the video on the affair with Ares had been done before this, cause the most explained version of what happened there is that Aphrodite wasn't married to Hephaestus of her own will and was _already_ having a steamy affair with Ares to begin with. So if anything, she wasn't cheating on Hephaestus with Ares, but rather she was forced to cheat on Ares with Hephaestus. Based on the rest of the info in this video, I wouldn't be surprised if the Spartans originally viewed her as a partner or even consort to Ares, and the rest of Greece bastardized this relationship as "well we say she was married to someone else so the slut was cheating with him". I could absolutely see the Athenians doing that.
Anyone ever notice how Inanna is literally Aphrodite, Athena, and Hera all in one, and Paris’ choice was picking the Mother out of the Maiden (virgin Athena) Mother (Aphrodite) Crone (Hera older wise but jealous)?
Or as Granny Weatherwax would say, "The Maiden, the Mother, and the Other One." (Granny being the Other One.)
but isn't the maiden-mother-crone triple a celtic concept?
@@irishmanfromengland25 not necessarily. The trinity has been found in eastern cultures as well like Brahma Vishnu Shiva or Parvati Durga Kali. But just like in Hindu they all come from one source
@@psychicserena111siderealas8 a group of three deities isn't a maiden-mother-crone triple.
but I'm also wrong, having just looked it up, apparently Hera was worshiped as a girl, a wife, and a widow in Stymphalos, which is almost exactly maiden-mother-crone.
@@irishmanfromengland25 yeah absolutely not exactly the maiden mother crone, but the triple worship still focuses on the journey of that archetype through its cycles and stages. Maiden mother crone is just one way of labeling them in the trinity, but it still translates pretty well when talking about other cultures and religions besides celtic
"Zeus realizing there's no save answer to that question, pawns the responsibility off on some random trojan kid."
At first I wondered why the head God would even worry about his safety but then I realised that the godesses in question were the goddess of wisdom and battle strategy, his wife, and a godess who's arguably the most powerful in the pantheon as she has power over love and lust, Zeus's biggest weakness
Damn. Scariest fucking combo I can imagine.
Zeus wasn't that powerful. Only thing that kept other Olympians from overtaking him was essentially their petty arguments and the lack of motivation.
@@nyetloki lol. But he was still clearly more powerful than his kids like Apollo. His siblings are probably on par with him in terms of power
Also. He may not have wanted to upset his daughter(athena), wife(hera)(side note she was amazing at revenge!), or his aunt(aphrodite)(I think she is his aunt...thats what I gather from the family tree, as she is the sister of Zeus's father Kronos via the "bath bomb ball sack" story.)
@@stephaniekrutzler7895 aphrodite is sometimes his aunt and sometimes his daughter.
if you go by the ouranos' balls falling into the sea and aphrodite being born from it, that means shes his aunt.
if you go by her being the daughter of zeus and dione then shes his daughter.
I agree with the comments above. Zeus wasn't really that powerful, and there's a good reason he would fear Aphrodite since his weakness was very apparent to everyone who knew about his "love escapades". But he was still the king of Olympus for a reason. He was one of the most powerful gods: Having the power over storms and lightning is a very scary thought (we all know that mother nature is scary, and storms are no exception). The only ones I can think of that would oppose him with equal (or more) power would be the Titans of higher rank (at least the ones left alive, like Gea, who is literally goddess of the Earth itself) and his siblings, like Poseidon and his very own wife Hera. (I don't know if Hades counts, he may be the god of the underworld but his powers over death aren't really effective against immortals gods. That would explain why he hasn't stood against Zeus despite disagreeing with him many times.)
The one exception to this would be Athena, and there's an entire mythos behind her explaining why despite being so powerful (to the point where she could actually beat Zeus) she doesn't try to dethrone him. It's basically the fact that she's a woman (misogynistic ancient Greece at it again). Apparently Prometheus' prediction (or at least one of them), was that the child of Zeus with more equal power to him would defeat him, and who has more equal power to him than Athena? She was literally born ONLY through him, without any mother (the whole coming out of his head myth). But apparently Prometheus specified that the child had to be a SON, so females were out of the question. This is the card that Zeus and other gods played to tell Athena that, because she's a woman, she doesn't have the right to dethrone him. Her response to this not-a-man counter attack varies from many interpretations of the Olympic mythos. The most preferred one nowadays is that she knew she couldn't do anything because most of the gods were already approving the prophecy that it had to be a male descendant, so if she tried to defy Zeus anyway, she would have a good chunk of powerful gods against her. She knew a war against a bunch of all-powerful inmortal beings would end VERY badly. So she "agreed" to not be the child that Prometheus said would dethrone Zeus, but that didn't stop her from becoming one of the most venerated gods through just intelligence and wits. Many people have theorized that yes, Athena really was more powerful than Zeus, and could've dethroned him anytime she wanted, but she didn't do it because she was smart: She knew she would be outnumbered if she tried to defy him, so she tried to strategically "beat" Zeus by gaining the respect and love of the mortals in numbers, somehow "beating" him in being the most respected god of all. And you could say she succeeded, since Wisdom and War were VERY important for both greeks and romans.
Obviously there's way more depth an details to this story, but this comment is already way to long.
My favorite part of Red's videos on Aphrodite is her using the chessiest love songs she can find.
Lou Bega's 'Mambo Number 5' is no love song.
whatwhat98 Mambo No. 5 is the name of the song.*****
@@kitcutting good thing im used to feeling like an idiot. Thanks for the correction
I found the songs sooo distracting!!!
Same tbh.
Btw good to see you here
If I were Paris, I would’ve gone with Athena’s deal. I’d get smarter and would basically be among the greatest tacticians on the planet. So I’d basically be capable of conquering lands like Europe and Asia with my armies, and potentially getting the most beautiful woman in the world as war spoils. So I’d get everything they all offered.
You'd also get cursed to oblivion by two of the most vindictive goddesses in the Pantheon.
Might go with hera on this one just because i dont want to be cursed by her
Dude look up Aphrodite and Hera's wrathful curses & revenge takings. Athena by contrast can just make you lose fights which isn't even evil since all fights have a losing side anyway.
3:50
So long Theseus 🙂
"Aphrodite is terrible at managing her own relationships, but she does like helping other people with theirs."
I can name at least two of my girlfriends who are like that.
People can do whatever they want, but maybe the problem is that you have too many girlfriends
@@elineverstraeten1872 I feel you misunderstood.
@@matthewgallaway3675 Yes, I am misunderstood and I appreciate your empathy.
Current girlfriends or ex girlfriends. Either way maybe run, run while you still can.
its ok at least u have anime waifus now
...wait, she was never a child.
She. Was. Never. A. Child.
That... that explains it, that explains why she just does not understand why actions have consequences. SHE NEVER LEARNED THIS GROWING UP BECAUSE SHE NEVER DID!
Other Greek gods may have their petty moments, but their actions rarely have such terrible consequences to so many people, because they know better.
Aphrodite is just a woman child. It all makes sense now!
Athena turned out fine. Go back to your fanfiction and intro lit classes.
I mean you could say the same with Athena but she is mostly the more mature one. Plus I'm pretty most of the Greek gods were just childish whether or not they grew up. Hermes stole cattle after a few days he was born
@@MrAcuriteOf1337 Yeah, Athena came out of Zeus's head as an adult LONG after he swallowed her mother, implying that she was born and grew up before that point, being raised by a very smart titaness.
@@ajomobaker8694 Oh, I don't deny being childish. But Hermes figured out that actions had consequences and figured out ways to lessen them. He used the guts of one of the cows to make the first lyre, and later traded that to Apollo, not only making him less mad, but also getting a sweet staff out of it. Aphrodite doesn't do that stuff.
Athena was also the goddess of wisdom and could probably see the consequences of her actions easier
It seems pretty convinient and understandable how love and sexuallity are linked to power and war, but also to impulsivity
So... Aphrodite seems pretty coherent to me
Another to add to the Aphrodite is Ishtar thing is that both are characterized as the biggest bitches in their respective mythologies. Ishtar among her divine domains is also a goddess known for taking heroes as lovers and then when she gets bored of them, she kills them off then goes hunting for another. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, Ishtar tries to persuade Gilgamesh to become her next lover. Gilgamesh tells Ishtar to go fuck herself and Enkidu takes it a bit too far so Ishtar decides to inflict the same shit that Ereshkigal is going to do to her in the underworld after this misadventure onto Enkidu causing him to waste away and die. Ishtar doesn't take being denied well.
Aphrodite is a strange breed of nicegirl and entitledparent.
and the perfect bringer of 'petty revenge' and 'that happened'
She's basically Regina George as a Mom
And shipper
Why does this make me think all the nicegirls/entitled parents decided to become a modern day Aphrodite
Why is this so true
Aphrodite:*angers if someone doesn’t date or doesn’t have no-no*
Me, an AroAce: *nervous laughter*
*I m I n D a n g e r*
Mood
U know ur toast when she glows red and not pink, or comes from the general direction of Sparta
@@scooperdooper4097 Aphrodite, fresh off a fuck session with Ares spotting an AroAce: You fucking DARE!?
Tf is a aroace
@@humanasir2250 aromantic and asexual
Aromantic is you don’t feel romantic attraction
Asexual being you don’t feel sexual attraction
Red, an asexual “there aren’t many people for whom love sex and beauty don’t matter”... Stares into camera
She's aromantic actually
Eros: You are weak.
Aphrodite: I am you but more angry, flirtatious and impulsive
“Aphrodite thinks a ship is cute and makes it canon without regard to consequences” - LOL!!
literally me with fanfics lmao
Mina!!
Aphrodite and I wouldnt get along
Im such an overthinker
Aphrodite is basically the personification of every teenage girl except that she has lovecraftian powers
Aphrodite: Eros! Why haven't you shot Sonic with an arrow while he's near Amy yet?!
Eros: I'm sorry, mother, but he's just too fast for me to land a hit! Hermes must have given him a boon at birth.
Aphrodite: Fine! Then I'll take matters into my own hands! You WILL love Amy, Sonic; you WILL!!! Ahahahahahaha!
Eros: Um... mother?
Aphrodite to the Aromantic Asexual hunters of Artemis:
"Am I a joke to you?"
Thalia : yes.
Wait which goddess was lesbian I thought it was like artemis or Athena
@@alienindisguise5546 artemis was most commonly regarded as an asexual aromantic virgin. the reasoning for this is that she swore off love and sex entirely, to be a maiden goddess of hunting (and eventually the moon). however, in some versions of greek mythology, Artemis only swore off men... and in fact had many lesbian nymph lovers (one of them being Callisto, who was later turned into the constellation Ursa Major after Zeus shapeshifted into Artemis and tricked her into having lesbian sex with him that... somehow resulted in a pregnancy??).
tl;dr: it depends on which myths ur reading
and also - no goddesses were really all that explicitly 100% lesbian, i'm afraid. there are heaps of greek stories about homosexual men, but much fewer about homosexual women. callisto definitely, athena was said to be attracted to a girl once, and sometimes aphrodite was said to be a patron of lesbianism/bisexuality, but there's nothing really concrete (although mythology is never concrete)
And no a very fun one
@@carlosroo5460 and dionysus was semi androgenous meaning that he had majority male traits but he also had some female traits that made him distinct from the rest of the gods
And if look straight ahead, at the time stamp 14:48, you'll see one of the greatest wonders of the world. A statue of Aphrodite with.... CLOTHES ON 😱
I've always liked the interpretation that she knew exactly what she was doing when she started the Trojan War.
Aphrodite: I'm gonna ship it
Everyone: Dont please
Aphrodite: to late
Edit: holy mother how do I have so many likes
You could make a religion out of this!
Aphrodite : *exists*
Me: *sweats in asexual*
FELT THAY
just drink your problems away 😁🍷🍷
@Tyler Robbins - Pathetic. You mean no one wants to like your comments so you resort to Acephobia.
@@RF-mc8cxso acephobs exists
I label myself as asexual, but still practice the worship of Aphrodite. I live to believe that she is trying to help with my self-love, rather than love for someone else. Strangely enough, since creating an alter with a candle font her, I have seen my self-confidence and self-respect has grown.
I regularly come back to rewatch this video and hope you'll do something similar with Artemis. She is SUCH a boss and central to so many myths, though you've already covered a lot about her in your Orion, Arachne, Atalanta, Niobe, etc videos. Maybe a compilation of what you've already covered with an intro explaining her origins and worship!
You know I always thought Aphrodite was like that bc you know she represents love and there’s a lotta types of love so I thought the I guess “sassy/mean?” Side of her would be toxic love idk I was something I thought-
*How the fight went between Aphrodite and Persephone:*
Aphrodite: OH he's HOT NOW! Can I have him bAAAACK?
Persephone, worrying about what Aphrodite will do with her adopted child: Oh HELL nAH!!
I researched a bit about the fight and they said that Persephone fell in love with Adonis and that Zeus had to mediate that 1/2 of the year Adonis would be with Aphrodite and the other half with Persephone, but Adonis likes his Mother(Aphrodite) that he just stayed with her. In one version, Persephone got jealous and sent a boar and killed him. In another version, the boar was Ares and in others Artemis killed Adonis. They were pretty complicated.
@@dite898 Aphrodite is not Adonis's mother.
*Oh Hades naw. Please refrain from making this mistake in the future, not trying to be rude.
Adonis was born when his mother seduced his grandfather.
Persephone banged Adone in all versions of the myth, so pretty much no
Aphrodite is just like that one hot nerd that loves shipping, sucks at relationships, but is great at advise and protection
and might also cause drama all the time
Bryce McKenzie omgs I didn't know I was aphrodite😃
300th like!
I’m a Poseidon.
@@broseidon1658 STAY BACK YOU UNHOLY BEING
The music in this one was absolutely out of control, and then capping it off with your own rendition of Jolene🤌
This video inspired a poem I did and that poem just won my university's undergrad poetry award!! So thanks Red!
CONGRATTTSSS
Don't be shy, post it😏
Zeus: Will the real Aphrodite stands up.
happyningaturtle Aphrodite Uranus: I agree.
You forgot to say please
Ayyyyyyy
XD
Burris self to get far away as possible
You know, re-watching this (look, I like it okay), it hit me. It many ways, Aphrodite could more accurately be called a goddess of passion, rather than just love/sex. Love, sex, war, and even politics (at the time especially) could be considered endeavors requiring passion. It even explains her connection to Hephaestus, since craftsmen would also be passionate about their works. When looked at that way, the contradictions kind of fade away.
I wonder if the confusion might have been a translation issue? As the cults migrated, they would have shifted languages as they went. So maybe in Cult A, they mistranslated a word that means passion into one that is more frequently used for love/sex, while Cult B kept to the more general translation. I'm just throwing this out there, since I have no research to back it up. But it certainly seems possible, especially when you consider modern language drift due to slang and the like.
I like that theory.
x@@eclipsemoons6557
No, it wasn't.
"Passion" is any feeling, not only the romantic/sexual one.
Is any of our animal urges from deep within, including rage, fear, saddness, joy, etc.
Things we supposedly suffer. It's imposed to us by a "higher power" (gods, nature, genes, geniuses, etc.) and we have little or no control about.
@Mullerornis But cults still need to talk to each other. I'm not talking about written texts necessarily. Spoken languages would still need to be translated too. An Assyrian would not speak the same language as a Macedonian, for example. So in trying to communicate, errors occur.
Genius. That'd also explain why Eros is more specifically about love.
7:50 She’s evolving, just backwards
the way you draw aphrodite areia is so cool honestly, something about the design is just chefs kiss
Avengers is the most ambitious crossover of all time
Ancient Mythologies: *allow us to introduce ourselves*
Yes
They didn't mention Freya (probably for a matter if geography), but she was also a goddess of love, beauty and war.
@@brinaf2857 there's also Benzaiten, who's also a goddess of love, beauty, and war. And coincidentally, a sea-spawn
@@brinaf2857 and witchcraft! She was basically the dream goddess
@@adeleaslan8182 girlie was working full time
Aphrodite in war:
"You fall in love and you fall in love, everyone falls in love"
"except u, u ugly"
@@urmomlovesme811 except for hephestus
*asexual and aromantics moving to america*
Nearly all ancient pagan religion got one thing in common, the goddess of sex, is also associate with motherhood, warrior and always portray as extremely beautiful.
Guess I got passed over...
Great vid! I love how multifaceted Aphrodite is
I find it very fun that Venus got named after a goddess inspired by a goddess inspired by the goddess of Venus.
All that censoring must have been hell. You must have gotten pretty damn tired of seeing Aphrodite boobs. And damn I love it when you dive in on a particular deity's origins. It must be exhausting, but know at least one viewer deeply appreciates all of your hard work.
Red missed some though.
@@geminiadastra8662 Tell me more!
@Purerasslin RUclips is really on some shit with demonetization
Me too.
@Purerasslin Because RUclips is an ass and will demonetize at the slightest excuse.
0:58 Eris, the goddess of internet chatrooms
she was the original troll.
_DISCORD_
@@kurithalia1211 Eris runs Discord in the Riordanverse confirmed 😂
*OH GODS,WE ARE CURSED*
Also of the social media
Fun tidbit I noticed one time and think is hilarious. So Paris is sometimes called Alexander, and Hera offers to make him the ruler of Europe and Asia... She offered to make him Alexander the great. Obviously that's not what happened since Alexander the great wasn't around when the myth was created but I think it's a really funny coincidence and I totally didn't use it as a joke in a school video
the name alexandros means "defender of mankind" or "warrior", which is what hera offered to make paris. alexander (iii) the great was probably named in hopes of becoming that. he was also a huge fan of the illiad, even saying he was the next achilles and looking for achilles and patroclus' grave (which he claimed to have found).
i know i've said it before but seriously red singing is such a good ending to the videos like it's so nice and calming i just love it so much
So basically she was the world's first hentai haven administrator
First comment
No, stop y are you here
U watch OSP wow?
You really are everywhere.
Why though Justin? XD