Filip, I’m sorry your subscribership is not higher than it is, but just know that those of us who are here appreciate immensely the effort it takes you to create your always informative and interesting content. I’m here for the long haul. Thank you.
As someone learning western music theory, but is in love with the quarter tones of middle eastern musical, thank you for posting this video! I will do some more reading, but would love to learn more on this topic if you are thinking of planning another!
I recently discovered your channel and I’m so happy. I’m 18 years old and I’m preparing to audition to study music at a jazz-oriented school. But my real passion is Middle Eastern music and I would love to specialize on this area and be able to play Bağlama (currently I play guitar). This video made me feel euphoric and also a little sad to know that there are so many things about Middle Eastern music that I don’t know. But I have all my life to dedicate to it and maybe even use it to create music. Thank you so much for this video ❤
Great video - thank you for shedding light on the rich & varied musical history of the ME region, especially that of the contributions of Safi al-din and others that has shaped almost every single aspect of modern music today.
Asalamu alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa barakutu. I love your videos. I'd love to donate if it's possible. It'd be interesting to do a video on jabir al hayran and his connection to music. Or a general overview of him on your main channel... Or possibly, a video on khidr Alih Salam. Peace to you my brother.
Man I’m enjoying learning about Arabic music history it’s so rich and diverse. This video is definitely one of the most important ones I’ve seen 🙌🏾subbed
Thanks Filip .. greatly appreciated. Always look forward to your enlightening work..re reading Minquari-i Musiqar (Hazrat Inayat Kahn) so this came as a timely diversion to a greater inquiry. Best.
I have been studying and practicing Sufism, esoteric sciences and Iranian music for a decade and I'm always shocked by the titles of your videos and the precision, marvelous 👏👏
Fantastic, thank you again. Adam Neely has a video "White Supemacy in Music Theory" which is a very interesting exploration of how western pedagogy has maintained its hegemony over other theories of music.
Hi Filip, I discovered your channel a couple of weeks back while looking up Oud. I genuinely enjoy your content since it explains the things you are talking about simply and concisely. I especially love your playing. It's so relaxing and it always hits the spot! Keep up the great work! 💯
You’re amazing Filip!! Your Arabic pronunciation is perfect and your knowledge of the region is amazing!! I’m from the area (north africa) and learning so much from you already. Thank you 🙏🏼
Congratulations upon accomplishing such a 'tour de force' by presenting vignettes on the beautiful music of the Middle East and Turkey❤☆☆☆☆☆please consider expanding this work...and hopefully finding musicians who will exemplify practically. Very little exists for academic presentations! 🎉🎉🎉
Great and informative video! Thank you for such neatly presented information. A few suggestions, and don't take it as nitpicking, but perhaps some proper subtitles would be helpful, and maybe don't use AI art for the visuals - it makes it harder to tell which images are from actual historical sources.
Great video, thank you and greetings from a Romani Irishman in Valenciana, Spain. All your offerings on both channels are of such a high quality, I even get to wondering how you source the art you feature? I would be particularly interested in having the high res image you used by Hossein Behzad if you had a moment to share the source (my own Google search has not turned up anything like the quality you got). Hope you can help. Best wishes, Bruno Nua.
very few people playing arab music care about what A is tuned to, it's all about relative pitch and following traditional melodies (ie maqam). basically the only time absolute pitch matters at all is if you're trying to play it on an instrument that can't easily alter intonation on a specific note, like a keyboard. quartertones are a way to describe arab music in a western context, they aren't an innate part of the vocabulary of arab musicians. even if something gets notated as a quartertone, the intonation of it will often be something less precise and fractionally between a quartertone and a half or eighthtone. the closest analogue in western popular music would be the blues third, which is inherently ambiguous and tends to follow a vocal melody. source - me, a mediocre oud player
Do you have any suggestions for books on middle eastern music theory which are accessible to a modern reader? I have a need to broaden my understanding. Thank you once more for your inspiring content
Inside Arabic Music: Arabic Maqam Performance and Theory in the 20th Century by Johnny Farraj and Sami Abu Shumays. very comprehensive overview of the instrumental structure of arab music ensembles, maqams, and more. sami has a great YT channel as well!
Not so much in terms of books, but there are good online resources. Maqamworld.com is a good place to learn the modal system, for example. In terms of historical context etc., check the sources in the description of these videos on Middle eastern music history, and you'll have a few places to start. It's usually very dry and academic stuff, but valuable if you are interested in the topic.
Thank you for this wonderful lesson in history. It doesn't surprise me that in the U.S., music is strictly limited to the 'European' version...its as if music just didn't exist in other countries/cultures. Yet I grew up with beautiful Indian music, and I remember hearing the Islamic chants at sunrise...nothing can replace this beauty.
There's something about your character, I don't know what it is, beyond the superficial spiritual aspect, that reminds me a little of Dostoyevsky's Alyosha. You seem so equally passionate and informed, it's been great discovering you from your other channel. Have you read much of Dostoyevsky's books, by the way?
It's commonly known Urmawi was Iranian. He was from Urmiya. Even Baghdad was an iranian city, copy of ctesiphon. Basically all the arts and sciences were a continuation of Persian empire that muslims claim now after invading. It's like mexico attacking america and saying look, we made the best tech companies. mexican golden age lmao
Baghdad itself was originally an Iranian city. Bagh = God, divinity, Daad = Gave/gifted. The word has a vary similar sounding cognate in Slavic languages in the name Bogdan. Muslims arrived from the deserts of Arabia, snapped their fingers and magically generated this sophisticated civilization from scratch. Which begs the question, if Islam and Arabian culture was the cause of these advances, why didn't the birthplace of Islam itself not become the center of learning and advancements?
@@houseofsuren510Iraq was semitic land forever. The achamenid empire occupied babylonian empire. Babylonian were semitic people not persian. So semetic civilization is older than persian civilization.
@@houseofsuren510Before the Islam Arab aren’t belong to Saudi Arabia only , Arab has presence to iraq, Syria, Lebanon before Islam. You should read about lakhmids Arab Kingdom. Sassanid occupied Arab lands. Mesopotamia civilization belongs to semitic people not persian. Persian Cyrus occupied babylonian empire. Islamic Golden Age belongs to Islam. Islam is not nationalism, Arab, persian, Turk, Kurd, Any nationality can practice Islam. It is funny that how persian Nationalist claim Islamic Golden Age is persian😂😂😂, if Islamic Golden Age was persian, why this Golden wasn’t born in sassanid period.
Filip, I’m sorry your subscribership is not higher than it is, but just know that those of us who are here appreciate immensely the effort it takes you to create your always informative and interesting content. I’m here for the long haul. Thank you.
I appreciate it! It is nice to have a smaler audience too 🙂
I have a similar opinion… this is rare :)!!! and no one knows yet… 😮
your body is an instrument, your life is a song and the world is a stage.
As someone learning western music theory, but is in love with the quarter tones of middle eastern musical, thank you for posting this video! I will do some more reading, but would love to learn more on this topic if you are thinking of planning another!
Would love to make a video diving deeper into the Maqam system! Need to read up a little bit first though, as I am a bit rusty.
@@FilipHolm have you done one so far? I’m a year late :)
I recently discovered your channel and I’m so happy. I’m 18 years old and I’m preparing to audition to study music at a jazz-oriented school. But my real passion is Middle Eastern music and I would love to specialize on this area and be able to play Bağlama (currently I play guitar). This video made me feel euphoric and also a little sad to know that there are so many things about Middle Eastern music that I don’t know. But I have all my life to dedicate to it and maybe even use it to create music. Thank you so much for this video ❤
Awesome! Both western and "eastern" music history and theory are really cool and interesting.
watch Sami Abu-Shumays' maqam lessons series, its great
dude your a gem. thank you so much
Great video - thank you for shedding light on the rich & varied musical history of the ME region, especially that of the contributions of Safi al-din and others that has shaped almost every single aspect of modern music today.
I just want to say, ur content is art brother 🙌🏾
Asalamu alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa barakutu. I love your videos. I'd love to donate if it's possible.
It'd be interesting to do a video on jabir al hayran and his connection to music. Or a general overview of him on your main channel... Or possibly, a video on khidr Alih Salam. Peace to you my brother.
Man I’m enjoying learning about Arabic music history it’s so rich and diverse. This video is definitely one of the most important ones I’ve seen 🙌🏾subbed
Thanks Filip .. greatly appreciated. Always look forward to your enlightening work..re reading Minquari-i Musiqar (Hazrat Inayat Kahn) so this came as a timely diversion to a greater inquiry. Best.
Love his work on the Mysticism of Sound and Music
I have been studying and practicing Sufism, esoteric sciences and Iranian music for a decade and I'm always shocked by the titles of your videos and the precision, marvelous 👏👏
Sufis are the goofiest people that ever walked on earth
What a fantastic documentary. Intensively informative.
Thank you!
incredible video! I thought this would have millions of views!
Fantastic, thank you again. Adam Neely has a video "White Supemacy in Music Theory" which is a very interesting exploration of how western pedagogy has maintained its hegemony over other theories of music.
Hi Filip, I discovered your channel a couple of weeks back while looking up Oud. I genuinely enjoy your content since it explains the things you are talking about simply and concisely. I especially love your playing. It's so relaxing and it always hits the spot!
Keep up the great work! 💯
You’re amazing Filip!! Your Arabic pronunciation is perfect and your knowledge of the region is amazing!!
I’m from the area (north africa) and learning so much from you already. Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you so much for doing your homework thoroughly and then sharing it with everyone to learn from
2:57 It says that " The prophet (pbuh) said :"If you knew what I know you would've laughed very little, and you would've cried very much"."
Congratulations upon accomplishing such a 'tour de force' by presenting vignettes on the beautiful music of the Middle East and Turkey❤☆☆☆☆☆please consider expanding this work...and hopefully finding musicians who will exemplify practically. Very little exists for academic presentations! 🎉🎉🎉
Wow! Just found this channel and did not except to hear your voice! With love 💕
Great and informative video! Thank you for such neatly presented information. A few suggestions, and don't take it as nitpicking, but perhaps some proper subtitles would be helpful, and maybe don't use AI art for the visuals - it makes it harder to tell which images are from actual historical sources.
Would you ever put this on your main channel? I simply fond on how you explain the music as a culture in the medieval islamicate world
I don't plan to! There is no clear connection to religion or philosophy as such, so I wanted to put it here instead.
Great video, thank you and greetings from a Romani Irishman in Valenciana, Spain. All your offerings on both channels are of such a high quality, I even get to wondering how you source the art you feature? I would be particularly interested in having the high res image you used by Hossein Behzad if you had a moment to share the source (my own Google search has not turned up anything like the quality you got). Hope you can help. Best wishes, Bruno Nua.
Thank you 😊
Thank you :)
Este tema me parece apasionante! Sería posible ponerle subtitulos al vídeo? Puede ser en ingles.sea en ingles.
Where are the quarter tones in the 17 note scale? Thank you. wouldn't a 24 note scale be a quarter-tone scale? 440 v. 432? which one works for you?
very few people playing arab music care about what A is tuned to, it's all about relative pitch and following traditional melodies (ie maqam). basically the only time absolute pitch matters at all is if you're trying to play it on an instrument that can't easily alter intonation on a specific note, like a keyboard.
quartertones are a way to describe arab music in a western context, they aren't an innate part of the vocabulary of arab musicians. even if something gets notated as a quartertone, the intonation of it will often be something less precise and fractionally between a quartertone and a half or eighthtone. the closest analogue in western popular music would be the blues third, which is inherently ambiguous and tends to follow a vocal melody.
source - me, a mediocre oud player
@@creamabdul-jabbar as someone with excellent relative pitch but not perfect pitch, this is encouraging!
Do you have any suggestions for books on middle eastern music theory which are accessible to a modern reader? I have a need to broaden my understanding.
Thank you once more for your inspiring content
@Joz Gan that's very helpful thank you!
Inside Arabic Music: Arabic Maqam Performance and Theory in the 20th Century by Johnny Farraj and Sami Abu Shumays. very comprehensive overview of the instrumental structure of arab music ensembles, maqams, and more. sami has a great YT channel as well!
Not so much in terms of books, but there are good online resources. Maqamworld.com is a good place to learn the modal system, for example. In terms of historical context etc., check the sources in the description of these videos on Middle eastern music history, and you'll have a few places to start. It's usually very dry and academic stuff, but valuable if you are interested in the topic.
I can see previous commenters have given great suggestions, too! Awesome.
Thank you all this is already a great abundance of information which will keep me busy.
What an amazing community this corner of RUclips has
Great vid! Are you planning to cover Indian music at all?
Thanks! I did a similar video last year about Tansen.
Oh my Lord.
The religion guy also does music?
Amazing
Hey Filip, thank you so much for this amazing video. Is there any way I can get into contact with you? Thanks
You just did! Is there anything in particular you want to discuss? :)
And, as an Iranian musician and musicologist, I highly recommend you to take a look at Abdulqadir Al-Marqei
Definitely!
Persian of course, from Urmia. Nice video, maybe you should have played some music?
Saw a video with a microtonal guitar on IG and ended up here on my rabbit hole journey
I would like to hear música from him.
Thank you for this wonderful lesson in history. It doesn't surprise me that in the U.S., music is strictly limited to the 'European' version...its as if music just didn't exist in other countries/cultures. Yet I grew up with beautiful Indian music, and I remember hearing the Islamic chants at sunrise...nothing can replace this beauty.
Does any of Urmawi's music survive today?
Oud is also called "Barbat" which means Duck because of the shape of its back side.
he is like the carravggio of baghdads late music renaisance
There's something about your character, I don't know what it is, beyond the superficial spiritual aspect, that reminds me a little of Dostoyevsky's Alyosha. You seem so equally passionate and informed, it's been great discovering you from your other channel. Have you read much of Dostoyevsky's books, by the way?
Haven't read much Dostoyevsky unfortunately. But your words are very kind and I appreciate it!
They treated Dr. Sebi the same way. Same sad end.
👏👏
You should make a video about Turkish music therapy. Like the music of Oruç Güvenç.
Ngl, I expected someone else to be in the thumbnail 💀
Do tell!
@@FilipHolm Osama bin Laden
@@FilipHolm Osama had quite the impact on the middle east, so that's where my brain went.
Sounds like Bach
Obviously Iranian! Imagine Arabs had a system for music :)))
It's commonly known Urmawi was Iranian. He was from Urmiya. Even Baghdad was an iranian city, copy of ctesiphon. Basically all the arts and sciences were a continuation of Persian empire that muslims claim now after invading. It's like mexico attacking america and saying look, we made the best tech companies. mexican golden age lmao
Baghdad itself was originally an Iranian city. Bagh = God, divinity, Daad = Gave/gifted. The word has a vary similar sounding cognate in Slavic languages in the name Bogdan. Muslims arrived from the deserts of Arabia, snapped their fingers and magically generated this sophisticated civilization from scratch. Which begs the question, if Islam and Arabian culture was the cause of these advances, why didn't the birthplace of Islam itself not become the center of learning and advancements?
@@houseofsuren510 from tent to amazing engineering. Just say inshallah
@@a.s2205 hahah... exactly...
@@houseofsuren510Iraq was semitic land forever. The achamenid empire occupied babylonian empire. Babylonian were semitic people not persian. So semetic civilization is older than persian civilization.
@@houseofsuren510Before the Islam Arab aren’t belong to Saudi Arabia only , Arab has presence to iraq, Syria, Lebanon before Islam. You should read about lakhmids Arab Kingdom. Sassanid occupied Arab lands. Mesopotamia civilization belongs to semitic people not persian. Persian Cyrus occupied babylonian empire. Islamic Golden Age belongs to Islam. Islam is not nationalism, Arab, persian, Turk, Kurd, Any nationality can practice Islam. It is funny that how persian Nationalist claim Islamic Golden Age is persian😂😂😂, if Islamic Golden Age was persian, why this Golden wasn’t born in sassanid period.
This music survived the Islamic inquisition and much persecutions.
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You keep repeating the phrase "Islamic world". Please prefix it with the phrase "the so-called".
It was the Islamic, or more accurately, the Islamicate World under Islamic Caliphates rule.
Why do you want to prefix it by "The so-called"?
Or perhaps, the term "Middle East" would be less political.