Veronica highlighted so well that the end of the journey is not that you sleep every night, but that you’re okay with any and all outcomes of your night. I struggled with this insight for awhile too. I didn’t care about the functioning part but mostly that I’ll be stuck like this forever. I think we get so hung up on success being defined as having no more sleepless nights but that’s not what we should be striving for nor is it up to us. It’s no more struggle when you DO have those sleepless nights. Struggle meaning anything you do to make them stop or resisting the experience. It’s not that the anxiety goes away, you get better at responding to it. The secondary effect is that it goes away (stolen almost verbatim from Drew Linsalata lol) If you push for them to stop, your nervous system will push to make it stay (for your own safety of course) Always allow the full experience, even when you don’t want to. Allow that too! Constantly practicing this has been such a game changer for me.
So deep and so true. It's all about bringing down the resistance, which seems the most dangerous thing...until we gradually give it a chance. Thanking you both XX
Veronika had some great insights. One that will stick with me is that when I go visiting or have relatives to stay at my home this summer, if I have a night of little sleep in anticipation of having little sleep, that the thing is not to then dread or fixate on what if I don’t sleep the next night… OMG! That will then create more hyperarousal and guarantee.. Yep! I probably will have another bad night. But to just relax and put into practice all I’ve learned from Daniel, the books, the school and coaches, that to just accept and be ok knowing I can and have gotten through the day with little sleep before. And let go and not think about sleep at all even though the day may be challenging. Thank you both !
I have chronic pain primarily in my lower back and hips. I seem to be in a loop where I wake up around 3:00 am. Often pain makes it hard to relax and go back to sleep. That raises my anxiety level and I become afraid about being awake. I am learning a lot from your discussion and hope it will reassure me.
Hi Laurie, Glad the discussion was helpful and you know, pain can undoubtedly create disruptive sleep, but not insomnia. That comes from the fear that pain will keep us awake… this can often help to know. Be in touch!
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Which program might be best for someone like me who has middle of the night insomnia where anxiety prevents relaxing after waking up. Sometimes I’ll drift off but then I’m awake again in only 20 minutes or so! I have been feeling like I’m slipping down a slope because I used to be able to get back to sleep, sometimes for a few hours at a time, but last night I was awake almost the entire time from 1:00 am on.
Hi Laurie, Thanks for asking and you know, I’d say it’s not about how we experienced insomnia that matters when it comes to which program helps more, because the education is the same. It’s more about what feels more like your way to learn. I made these two videos that can help with the common questions of Will it work for me? and “Which option is best for me?” Will this work for me? ruclips.net/video/_MeNwRNODlw/видео.html Which option is best for me? ruclips.net/video/rpjmdxrZTCs/видео.html Hope this helps!
I am so exhausted, so I'll go sleep or at least rest now. I am struggling less with anxiety which is great, slowly even with severe exhaustion and nausea realizing I can not control the process but instead need to surrender to it, and I don't really have a reason to fight it or be mad. The present infront of me even with the physical struggle isn't a reason to feel frustrated. It just is. I will be okay. The fear of it will not overwhelm me and throw me into another cycle.
I will probably get coaching soon. I could use some help as I've been having a really rough patch with sleep, around full week of barely ANY sleep causing nausea (can't eat, losing weight fast haha) and exhaustion where I have energy to maybe rest, then do very little movement which sucks but luckily I'm at my parents and don't have to work or do anything crazy. I still make it my goal to enjoy myself despite sleep deprivation and feeling sick because I know a huge reason I'm suffering isn't the summons it's the cycle of what I make it mean (that it'll keep on the and fears) about insomnia.
Hello I afraid a lot of zero sleep. I continuously thinking that if will not able to sleep today tomorrow. I read articles people don't sleep 8days.i afraid that if it will happen to me. How can I stop thinking of that.
Hi py, Thoughts are like messages from our brain. And when someone wants to tell you something but you don’t listen, they that person will try more and more. The message will be repeated. So when we try to stop thinking about something, this ends up being the only thought we have. But if we are okay with thinking about something, then we have many fleeting thoughts.
Hi py I just saw this comment, and it really resignated with me. I also had tons of these thoughts and fears around zero sleep during my insomnia journey. I even had many zero sleep nights. But guess what, I'm still here 😊. Months have passed and now these thoughts are just a distant memory. I hardly ever have thoughts like this anymore. It was when I started to accept and welcome these thoughts that they went away on there own. Can you allow them to be there, and just carry on with things you enjoy. Doing so takes their power away. Thoughts are just bits of noise and are definitely not to be trusted. Hope this helps 🙏
Veronica highlighted so well that the end of the journey is not that you sleep every night, but that you’re okay with any and all outcomes of your night. I struggled with this insight for awhile too. I didn’t care about the functioning part but mostly that I’ll be stuck like this forever. I think we get so hung up on success being defined as having no more sleepless nights but that’s not what we should be striving for nor is it up to us. It’s no more struggle when you DO have those sleepless nights. Struggle meaning anything you do to make them stop or resisting the experience.
It’s not that the anxiety goes away, you get better at responding to it. The secondary effect is that it goes away (stolen almost verbatim from Drew Linsalata lol) If you push for them to stop, your nervous system will push to make it stay (for your own safety of course)
Always allow the full experience, even when you don’t want to. Allow that too! Constantly practicing this has been such a game changer for me.
So so nicely said Sierra… thanks a bunch for sharing 🙏😊
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 no problem! 😊
@@johnmonk3381 hey John! Thank you!!
Thank you for your insight Sierra!
So deep and so true. It's all about bringing down the resistance, which seems the most dangerous thing...until we gradually give it a chance. Thanking you both XX
This is the way 🙂 Thank you Lucy for the support 🙏
Veronika had some great insights. One that will stick with me is that when I go visiting or have relatives to stay at my home this summer, if I have a night of little sleep in anticipation of having little sleep, that the thing is not to then dread or fixate on what if I don’t sleep the next night… OMG! That will then create more hyperarousal and guarantee.. Yep! I probably will have another bad night.
But to just relax and put into practice all I’ve learned from Daniel, the books, the school and coaches, that to just accept and be ok knowing I can and have gotten through the day with little sleep before. And let go and not think about sleep at all even though the day may be challenging.
Thank you both !
Hi Jeanie! Indeed, she always being something really nice. And what you said here, this is the way 😊 thanks for being in touch!
I have chronic pain primarily in my lower back and hips. I seem to be in a loop where I wake up around 3:00 am. Often pain makes it hard to relax and go back to sleep. That raises my anxiety level and I become afraid about being awake. I am learning a lot from your discussion and hope it will reassure me.
Hi Laurie,
Glad the discussion was helpful and you know, pain can undoubtedly create disruptive sleep, but not insomnia. That comes from the fear that pain will keep us awake… this can often help to know. Be in touch!
@@thesleepcoachschool8192 Which program might be best for someone like me who has middle of the night insomnia where anxiety prevents relaxing after waking up. Sometimes I’ll drift off but then I’m awake again in only 20 minutes or so! I have been feeling like I’m slipping down a slope because I used to be able to get back to sleep, sometimes for a few hours at a time, but last night I was awake almost the entire time from 1:00 am on.
Hi Laurie,
Thanks for asking and you know, I’d say it’s not about how we experienced insomnia that matters when it comes to which program helps more, because the education is the same.
It’s more about what feels more like your way to learn.
I made these two videos that can help with the common questions of Will it work for me? and “Which option is best for me?”
Will this work for me?
ruclips.net/video/_MeNwRNODlw/видео.html
Which option is best for me?
ruclips.net/video/rpjmdxrZTCs/видео.html
Hope this helps!
I am so exhausted, so I'll go sleep or at least rest now. I am struggling less with anxiety which is great, slowly even with severe exhaustion and nausea realizing I can not control the process but instead need to surrender to it, and I don't really have a reason to fight it or be mad. The present infront of me even with the physical struggle isn't a reason to feel frustrated. It just is. I will be okay. The fear of it will not overwhelm me and throw me into another cycle.
I will probably get coaching soon. I could use some help as I've been having a really rough patch with sleep, around full week of barely ANY sleep causing nausea (can't eat, losing weight fast haha) and exhaustion where I have energy to maybe rest, then do very little movement which sucks but luckily I'm at my parents and don't have to work or do anything crazy. I still make it my goal to enjoy myself despite sleep deprivation and feeling sick because I know a huge reason I'm suffering isn't the summons it's the cycle of what I make it mean (that it'll keep on the and fears) about insomnia.
Hang in there Aya, many who’ve left the struggle would recognize where you are so much
Daniel.. how do I email you an article I read on NY Post this morning on insomnia?
Hi! Thanks for thinking of Heard online. You can send it to me, daniel@thesleepcoachschool.com
Hello I afraid a lot of zero sleep. I continuously thinking that if will not able to sleep today tomorrow. I read articles people don't sleep 8days.i afraid that if it will happen to me. How can I stop thinking of that.
Hi py,
Thoughts are like messages from our brain. And when someone wants to tell you something but you don’t listen, they that person will try more and more. The message will be repeated.
So when we try to stop thinking about something, this ends up being the only thought we have.
But if we are okay with thinking about something, then we have many fleeting thoughts.
Hi py
I just saw this comment, and it really resignated with me. I also had tons of these thoughts and fears around zero sleep during my insomnia journey. I even had many zero sleep nights. But guess what, I'm still here 😊. Months have passed and now these thoughts are just a distant memory. I hardly ever have thoughts like this anymore. It was when I started to accept and welcome these thoughts that they went away on there own. Can you allow them to be there, and just carry on with things you enjoy. Doing so takes their power away. Thoughts are just bits of noise and are definitely not to be trusted. Hope this helps 🙏
@@shariwithey2704 thanks a lot