He Thought His Belief was Solid Until He Met This Muslim
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The atheist was humble and honest. Nobody should use bad words for him. At least he is listening. He will be guided to the right path InshaAllah
Had wayy too many half answers and wouldn’t stand on what he was saying though. Kinda annoying.
@@HashiramaBigWoodSenju yes but no one give him correct answer while he was growing up. maybe that? he said he was analyzing some sources..
So what, who are you to judge. Allah guides whom he wills not whom you will@@HashiramaBigWoodSenju
I am a Muslim, I love how? There is no food, suddenly a miracle happens there is food, in my fridge, plus my food tastes delicious as usual , this is a miracle from Allah , god is great, there are miracles in our lives
Yeah at least he was listening
We all appreciate Alex's sincerity
Alex? Or luke,no? Anyway the sincerity of this guy, it changes from emotional and hypocrit christians,for the most.May Allah Guide him to the straight path.And always nice and educative to listen to brother Hamza , helps to give Dawah as well
Luke*
I love how we just assume an atheists default name is Alex 😂😂
Loooool Alex btw
Who tf is Alex bro
Hamza is getting sharper by the day... love it
his hair is getting sharp as well😂
Define sharper.
It's just your belief
Have you read the history of sharper?
I currently don't know the answer... but who knows with future science @@capt9
@@capt9 ???
The dude started out like a razor's edge as it was.
That brother goes harder than concrete, Alhamdulila.
Hamza just Got 20 years younger after that haircut😂❤
Yes mashaallah
Allahuma baarik!
That haircut is considered haram in islam according to majority of the scholars
@@Trickshotsaint7i think he cut his hair equally from every side normally and its not wrong
@shaikhumer704 buddy look on the hair of the head the sides are trimmed shorter then the top it's not allowed in islam
Luke is a good guy. You can tell....Nice job Hamza as usual. You took me to a different level with questions/opinions raised in this video. Allah's rahmah always on you Bro...Ameen
I guess it’s time god is saying for me to take a closer look into Islam 🥰 throughout my research and experience it just resonates so strongly like a hug to my soul. I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be ✨
Wouw beautiful saying. May God Almighty help you on your way to Him.
He guides whom He wills. I believe it is all what we carry in our hearts, and God only knows what the essense of each heart is. See, good-humble heart and bad-arrogant heart are different. Therefore the paths are diferent too.
God bless you and guide you.😊
Happy for you, may Allah give you strength and guide you to the truth
Aby updates?
Mashala
😂😂😂😂
Wallahi brother Hamza is such knowledgeable and passionate person who is working for deen Masha Allah! May Allah SWT bless him to do more work like this...
Loool, what knowledge? Hes like a Muslamic Ben Shapiro, just talks fast to confuse people. He doesnt actually know anything.
AmeenYaRabbilA'lameen!
He's not sincere at all....hes on his own egomaniac trip
@@rbo3193what is the reason behind your statement?
Hamza's logic is flawed. See my comment.
Luke did not realise how powerful and beautiful the dua made for him was😢 28:06
yeah may Allah guide him
I completely understand Luks position, he is afraid of the truth because he would have to charge his whole life if he acceptes the truth and that scares him to death.
Been there, done that. Im from Denmark but truth is truth and I had to become Muslim.
@@IslamTheTruth-cg5qp are you white native danish or non white danish? just wondering
Don't you think it's a little disrespectful to ascribe thoughts and motives to a complete stranger?
@@joemoment401 why ask him that though?
@@timcollett99i agree with you. We are not allowed to judge anyone based on our feelings. In Islam it is actually prohibited to judge someone like this.
I am from Philippines mindanao basilan i am back to islam few month ago alhamdullilah because of watching speaker Corner specially hamza mansur hasim shamsi paul and other speaker at the park sukran to you all
mashAllah. Dua for you from Pakistan
Mashallahr.....most welcome❤
You are back to Islam? Were you a Muslim before ?
ماشاءالله
☺️
Luke! You are a good man. Only Allah can guide you. Brothers have done a marvellous job here to convey you the message.
@@JonesBeigescould you provide us with the verse where Quran says that it’s only for those who speak the language ?
@@Sheldonisbackalways Go ask your Imam who is afraid to talk about this BIG Islam problem. Quran is written for Arabic speaking people only.
@@JonesBeigesdamn.. So we should not read any book written in different language than our mother language... Imagine such a world with retarded mentality as yours
@@JonesBeiges Why do I need to? Do you know what the role of an Imam is? Does God showing revelation to humankind in A certain language imply that it is solely for those who speak that language? Did you even investigate the wisdom behind revealing the Quran in Arabic before saying that? Did you know that Arabic has approximately 12 million words, compared to 600.000 for English? Btw I’m still waiting for you to prove your claim that "Quran itself explain that it’s only for those speaking arabic" ! Show us the verse !
@@Sheldonisbackalways Let's apply some simple logic. Why did Allah the all knowing reveal the Tora and gospels to us if he knew we would corrupt it? Did your god make a mistake or did he mislead us? So yes your fake Quran is for Arabic speakers only.
I can imagine that its hard to listen or hear what hamza is saying when ure an atheist, because hamza is not listening to him and is leading the conversation too much. “If god created you, he is the one who will guide you the best”. Hamza expects an obvious YES from Alex. But Alex tried to say: what if my creator wanted to guide me to a bad place? Then the answer is NO. Hamza should listen better before expecting people to accept his point of view. Repeating the question and telling him why god guides the best, asking him to not think about religions, telling him you make it easy for him etc… while you didn’t even understand why he couldn’t say YES, makes it hard for him to listen and enjoy a conversation.
Brother is very intelligent, Inshallah he will find the absolute truth.
How can you debate with a man that talks over you, only hears what he wants to hear, answers his own questions, comes to conclusions based on belief and is so uptight, close minded, rude and awkward to talk to. This was not a good way to talk with someone to open their mind. Take tips on how to debate by Ali Dawah and have some respect like him.
Everything aside can we appreciate how amazing the production quality of Hamza's videos are too? Truly love watching this channel and learning and growing as a Muslim, may allah bless you and your family
All the more reason to donate to his cause!
I love the new Hamza. May Allah bless him. He's much more calmer. He's sharp. He's listening more and giving the chance for the other person to speak even if they are saying something rubbish. Thank you great video.
Luke is a sincere man,, he owns my respect,,, i wish he comes soon
So good to listen to Hamza. And here with an open minded atheist,or agnostic, open minded, apparently really in search of truth, honnest.May Allah Guide him to the straight path
Thank you hamza for this thorough explanations. I am a muslim and you still give me daawa and ways to discuss islam with my colleagues.
بارك الله فيك و ما شاء الله و لا قوة إلًا بالله
The young guy is smart and humble. He is not the arrogant type like the typical Christians. May Allah blessed him with hidayah. The part that he missed is the Creator of human kind knows better what is good for human similar to the inventor of the phone. As such, the Creator select good human amongst us to convey his commands. Thats why we have the prophets with divine guidance manifested in the Quran (for all mankind till end of time).
You forget the fact that there is no evidence for any god, including yours.
He is sincere and honest ❤. May Allah guide every sincere soul to the right path
Allah isn’t real
That would suggest that if he doesn’t then god has rejected him - in what way does this provide free will if god is guiding him or not???
@@colinross3755 Free will simply means "ability to choose".
And if he asks God for guidance he will guide him (God knows what's in heart)
I can do both:
1.Asking someone to give me something
2. Choose whether i would take it or not
@@Mohammad_Qais so from what you say god does not control what we believe which means that he is not all powerful.
@@colinross3755 man if you wants to act dumb then i cannot help you.
If i m letting you do whatever you want to do doesn't mean i cannot stop you, it just mean i want to let you do whatever you are doing untill you come to me (i.e death)
What's so complicated about these words man?
Powerful, free will, request (prayer) are all different things. Don't you see?
Masah Allah, May Allah (SWT) bless brother Hamza.
La ilaa haa il Allah Muhammad rasool Allah
There is no god except Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah
Alhamdulila!
Brooo this man is just tooo gooood i wish everyone understood islam like he does man its flippinn good to see a proper lion of allah
I hope he reflects and comes back to discuss more, u can tell his mind started to become clear as he was speaking, hopefully he dosnt allow his emotion of feeling embarassed prevent him from persuing truth. May Allah guide him ameen.
Amazing Hamza you definitely know how to lead a usual disbelieving mind into the absolute truth of belief through an intellectual journey. I am truelly startled by your linguistic and reasoning skills Well done Hamza you re such a good and honest man İ appraciate all you efforts to save people from being saf after life
Belief is fine but trying to prove a gods existence needs evidence but there isn't a shred of evidence anywhere that proves god is real. Science proves things constantly throughout mankind and science books that were written centuries ago are still proved correct today
@@philbarton2832thats why it's a test from god. if god revealed himself directly, then there would be no test. It's a journey for each man. human life with such intellect came randomly? and just die like other animal? there must be a purpose, and seeking the purpose and following the truth is the test. But Humans are so arrogant thats why they don't want to think rationally that why am i here in this world with such high level of intellectuality and where did it come from?! and why theres no randomess in the cosmos otherwise it would not form in such orderly fashion, would collapse , and wouldn't exist eventually.
Atheism is NOT a belief, it is the rejection of a God claim because it lacks evidence to support it.
Just like rejecting the claim that Zeus exists is not a belief system.
4 48 he says,2 contradictory explanations can't be right ,that correct hanza , so read the following then
Muslims need to realise ,
Gibril that appeared to Mahamed , was the devil in disguise , I know its difficult to come to terms with but it's true.
Did you know there is a Verses in the bible
2 corinthians 11-14
It says,
For SATAN himself can TRANSFORMS into an angel of light.
Also in Galatians 1-8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel OTHER than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s CURSE !!-
Didn't Mohamed preach a different gospel??
If Mahamed new the gospels and these, verses,, he would have been more careful that Gibril doesn't say something that contradicts other scriptures, or the past prophets as muslims
,will tell you they believe IN ALL THE PROPHETS , so if he heard something he woould have thought,
if Allahs words cannot change (sura 18 27)
And sura 3.3 says
He has revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ the Book in truth, confirming what came before it, as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.(ALLAH CONFIRMED THEM SO THEY ARE TRUE)
Why is this angel saying
jesus didn't die? ?
And Denying he's son of God ???
The most difficult thing to justify logically about this if Jesus didn't die on the cross,
they were switched on the cross with someone else, essentially you are saying that God trick his disciples into thinking it was Jesus on the cross,
so we then believe he was raised from the dead,b/c God tricked his disciplines REALLY , and by tricking his,disciplines he mislead millions of Christians?
What's more reasonable to assume, God tricked his disciples and millions of people ?
Or that Mohammed was fooled.
And Satan did exactly the samething with prophet Joseph smith in the Mormon Church
An angel called Moroni , appeared to him and told him all religions are wrong ,I'm here to tell you ths truth.
And he told him ,there's are millions of Gods and you can become a God , if Joseph Smith knew the scriptures ,he would know there is a verse that says in
Actual,quote-
Prophet Joseph Smith, Jr., History of the Church, v. 6, pp. 307, 308
“If we should take a million of worlds like this and number their particles, we should find that there are more Gods than there are particles of matter in those worlds.”
But.... ....
Isaha 43 10 says......
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me...
So he or have used his,logic and thought God would not contradict himself, why is this Angel Moroni saying there many Gods and you can become one, and isaha is saying ,
no gods before or after me..?
Satan pulled the same trick on Mahamed .
PROOF IS HERE
Prophet isaha said
In 7.14
14 So the Lord himself will give you this sign: A virgin will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and she will name him Immanuel [GOD IS,WITH US,).
In luke 1.32 Gabriel says to Mary
He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. And the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David,
Why is it in the quran, the same angel that say to Mary
Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, (held in HONOUR) in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. (Qur’an, 3:45)
Why does jibril In the quran say held in HONOUR ,and the same angel in bible says ,he will be SON OF GOD!!
-SAME ANGEL SPEAKING
.-
Isaha said the same thing?
Two witness say SON OF GOD jibdil says held in honour (no mention Son of God)
Also,both the Mormon and Islam,paradise is,never ending sex ,Satan catering to mans,lustrlful desires..
The Christian paradise is being in the presence of God ,and the love and energy and colours that flows out of him ,you can look at him for ever , I heard alot of testimonies saying this , this,makes,more sence and is in line with Scriptures
1,John 4
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Did Mohamed and Joseph test the spirits??
And the only way to test a spirit is make sure he is consistent with the gospels and prophets before them, Christians have a reason not to believe jibril of the quran and Angel Moroni ,what reason to Muslims have not to believe in Joseph smith, and Angel spoke and they don't test them ,so tbey should be Mormons
Remember Adam Eve got thrown out of paradise...
Genesis 3-23-24
So GOD expelled them from the Garden of Eden and sent them to work the ground ..
After Jesus paid for their and everyone's sins he owned the doors,of paradise again.
And the thief on the cross was the first one in.
Luke 23-43
The thief said to Jesus
Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” And Jesus said to him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”.
So Satan knows only through believing in Jesus, and that he paid for your sins on the,cross , told Mahamed Jesus,l,didn't die ,and that he is only a prophet, because if you believe Jesus is,only a man a,didn't due for you paradise is closed , why do you think jibril In the quran said such a redicoulous lie !!,
God would not trick his,disciplines and millions of Christians, this is,why we view the cross as,something holy ,because,of thd love he showed to all of us by paying for out sins , and Satan hates the cross because of this ,this is why quran says, the cross will be broken , BECAUSE BEFORE JESUS PAID FOR OUR SINS ,SATAN TOOK ALL THE SOULS ...
@@tasmarkou5681 because Qur'an is the truth... your ideology isn't even from Prophet Jesus peace be upon him..
May Allah protect you, help you and accept your good deeds brother Hamzah❤❤❤❤
Luke seems humble and honest 😊 . May Allah lead him to Islam. He didn't argue just for the sake of arguing. When confronted with details, he sincerely said "I don't know". Let's pray 🤲 that he devotes some time for Hamza's homework , sets his 'don't cares' aside, and then worships Allah, the one and only God , who will resurrect us on the Day of Judgment , the Lord of Moses, Jesus, and Mohamed, peace be upon them ... ❤
Well, props to him for sticking around and only if he stay for another 30 mins he would have been considered converting to Islam but we know he was really tryin to avoid digging the hole. For many atheist they deny the concept of ultimate power who created the universe and beyond so if you prove that to them they willingly accept Islam or religion in general. MashAllah brotha that was an amazing debate!
what absolute utter tosh. if if if if if if if if if if then god is real
1 god/invisible universe farting pixie exists
2 the argument in the middle
3 therefore god/invisible universe farting pixie exists. but you forgot to prove he first exists. you just assumed it
I appreciate how the man was actually listening.
For me, this is one of Hamza's most beneficial talks (I won't call it a debate). Thanks to Luke's candor. Admitting ignorance takes courage. The only problem with Luke is that he is approaching Islam with the same skepticism that atheists usually approach Christianity; he needs to understand that Islam is not another religion in the sense of catholic theocracy. Islam is a framework inextricably linked to human experiences such as politics and history. He needs to stop being arrogant and use his head, as Hamza suggested. It's sad how some people ignore what's best for them in the name of pride and prejudice.
Couldn't agree more! Well said. May Allah guide him 🤲
I would not consider him arrogant. It takes time to process these things. Being on camera and having bystanders, as well as being engaged in a talk, where your opposite already knows every part of the way, makes it difficult to look past the emotions of that situation. Being on the defensive like this can close the heart and the head.
Give him time and space and he may find the way inshallah.
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I never thought of that, I'm on board with it now.
Just wasted 20 mins waiting for this guy to say something interesting and I all heard was stalling..I never understand if Muslims have all the answers and are so right why have the need to always say how wrong the Christians are..why are Muslims so threatened by the Christians? Christian by definition are followers of Christ..last time I checked Islam teaches Christ was without fault…something not even Muhammad can say..not to mention Muhammad is nowhere near popular than Christ. Let’s not even get into the fact that more people know about Christ than Muhammad and longer..hundreds of years went by and millions of people followed Christ before Muhammad was even thought of..more hospitals have been built under the name of Christ, more schools have been built, homes have been built..slavery has been deemed illegal because of Christ and the Bible..let me stop..🤦🏽♂️
I saw where hamza was going at the last part, the way he was connecting politics to morality about if the soldier was wearing his uniform or not, mashallah may allah keep him steadfast
Br Hamza your conversations when you're calme are the best
Waiting till the perfect moment to watch this 🤩
You scared him off Hamza. He was coming in man!!! He couldn't handle the overwhelm. He is a good man, with a heart in the right place but too scared to commit. May God guide us all.
I disagree. Not everyone can be approached the same way. He needed an intellectual challenge and that’s why he said he always ends up at the Muslims’ side of the park. Guidance is with Allah SWT but he will for sure be thinking about what brother Hamza said in Sha Allah. May Allah SWT guide him to His Path.
Look how Hamza surrounds himself with a pack of dogs. He relies on intimidation.
@@marksturch3162 🤣
Oh turner of hearts, turn his heart, his family, friends and loved ones heart towards Your deen, n keep them all , us n our families, friends and loved ones hearts firm upon Your deen. Forgive us All the entirety of our sins, protect us from Your displeasure n grant us all The Highest of Janathul Firdouse , Ameen Ya Raheem Ya Rahman
Ameen
How can science be true when science says whatever the biggest paying employer tells them to say?
Science is just a method used to apply data to the real world... Take antibiotics for example, the scientific process is what was used to develop penicillin into a useful antibiotic. This discovery was not patented.
If you don't use science to develop drugs to determine what effect they have, then you're just guessing.
Science and technogy can help explain mechanisms to a degree of clarity. But the more that is discovered and the greater technology is, and quality of datasets your confidence will be limited. It's like a telescope. Better telescope, see more stuff.
With Gods and demons you can only guess and trust what your favourite war lord tells you.
Interesting 5 questions used by hamza
Q1: is there absolut truth
Q2: what method do you use to find absolute truth
What are the other 3 questions? 😬
Is these the other questions?
Q3: if God exist, would he know what best for you (the moral standar, best source of guidance, etc)?
Q4:...
Q5:...
From the discussion.
Q1. Is Muhammad real person? What is his claim?
Q2. Lets test his claim (receive revelation from.jibril), is he crazy, lying, deceived by devil, or he's telling the thruth.
You're a honest guy Luke, thanks for the content. Respect.
Whos this... no longer hamza without the cap. Put that cap back on😅
Reminds me of those footballers who kept themselves bold for a decade only to reveal a full set of hair!
STOP IT HAMZA, WASH, REPENT, REFORM..
OR
GOD will send what you have earned for yourself
I was not convinced by your logic Hamza. I see multiple flaws and false claims in your argumentation.
4:36 You claim that 2 different explanations to the same phenomenon can not be true at the same time. You then give an example of your logic, however you can not prove a statement by providing anecdotal evidence. What you can do is disprove it by finding only one counterexample and I saved you the time of searching for one. When analyzing the behavior of light, we observe that it can act as both a wave or a particle. There are then two ways to explain the behavior of light, invalidating your claim for absolute truth.
As a bonus example, at 7:36, you claim that if god does exist he can’t not exist. However, it might be the case that God exists as a mental construct that you experience truthfully every day but Luke doesn’t. Then god would exist and not exist at the same time.
15:00 You limit the explanations to 4 but you fail to look at the whole picture. I could present two additional explanations and I’m sure I haven’t thought about all of the others.
1)He was visited by aliens. I’ll admit this sounds ridiculous, but from some point of view, it could make more sense than angels.
2)(This one is more likely in my opinion), He was tripping ballz. Many people relate having divine encounters while on psychedelic and since different strains of psychedelic mushrooms can be found all over the world, it might have been the cause of his claim.
23:11 If an all powerful creator exists you can still know yourself better than he does because he might have created you by accident and doesn’t even know you exist. If he is all powerful and all knowing, he would know you better than you know yourself and what is best for you. That doesn’t mean he want’s what is best for you, therefore he is not necessarily the best source of guidance for you.
I do think Luke could have handled this better, but Hamza kept arguing in bad faith. If you truly care about proving the existence of a god, make sure your logic is not flawed, that you are arguing in good faith and that you do not put words in other people's mouths.
Hey there , I just came across your interesting comment 😊
The two issues you raised are simply suboptions to the basic "Lying" / "Deceived" assertions ( If someone consumes hallucinogens, for 23 years straight, to see things (Angels), and then tells people that he is a prophet to deceive them. Then that person should be considered a "Liar". Similarly , if Aliens came to you, pretend to be Angels sent from a divine being, and told you to worship the God of Abraham , be good to your neighbours and pray
(For weird reasons that are relevant to them) then you were " Deceived" )
The Alien point : ( I agree it sounds, feels, and tastes ridiculous 😂 but it gotta be addressed anyway ) .
First : I would argue that it is more reasonable and logical to acknowledge the possibility of a necessary, non-contingent, powerful, pre- and post-eternal being that has a will and created the universe from nothing ,than it is to believe that Aliens visited a man in the desert, pretended to be angels, and instructed him to worship the God of Abraham rather than idols, give charity, and warn people to prepare for judgment after death, as claimed by Moses, Jesus, Jacob, and others.
Also , accepting the possible validity of such claim necessites an explanation of the creation of the universe, right ? Could these Aliens create the sun , the moon and earth as well ? who created them ? Did we humans , or they (Aliens ) the creator of ourselves, or did another being created us ? And most importantly can something come from absolute nothingness ?!
With all due respect . It is absurd to stick to "anything" that possesses divine power and then deny that it is God. It's nonsense.
The hallucinogens : First , for you to accept this claim , you should also believe that : 1) Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him: has to own a huge stock of hallucinogens hidden somewhere that last for at least 23 years / 2) he should consume it secretly / 3) He must survive and endure both the hallucinogen's deadly side effects and its leathal aftereffects. 4) administer it to his companions for 2 decades without them knowing (check this Hadith were the companions LITERALLY saw Angel Gabriel/Jibril: [Sunan an Nasa'i 4990] ) / 5) Possess a super brain and body capable of creating anything akin to the Quran , resists the hallucinogens' physical effects , while yet being able to withstand hallucinations at the same time. 6) Have a type of hallucinogens that makes you know a great deal of information that you don't know including future prophecies with 100% accuracy (Mohamed PBUH was illiterrate , he could not read or write) .. /7) Mohamed PBUH also must have had the ability to alter the environment and terrain because Mecca was a desert with nothing but sand, dust, and stones. Nothing else. Not even traces of plants . Until this day, After 1400 years, there aren't even any signs of vegetation anywhere close to the cave of Hirra, inside it ,or anywhere else where the first interaction with the Angel occurred/ 8) not to mention that the previous prophets (Noah, Moses, Jacob, Abraham...) MUST have gone throught the same process because Mohamed PBUH asserts that they were sent by God as well (not only them, but all their disciples too)
I'll put it this way for you, brother/Sister. Assume you were born somewhere after the time of Moses (PBUH), which is the period of history that all Abrahamic religions acknowledge. Say your grandmother told you that she and her mother had escaped Pharaoh's army when she was a kid, and that Moses had parted the sea, so they could pass through safely. Given that you weren't present for the event, you'll undoubtedly find it difficult to swallow, ask her a lot of questions, and maintain your skepticism. That's precisely what's taking place at this moment.
This was actually mentioned in the Quran, 10th Chapter (Jonah) verse 36 : "Most of them follow nothing but inherited assumptions. And surely assumptions can in no way replace the truth. Allah is indeed all-knowing of what they do."
By the way I think very similar points have previously been addressed by Hamza (Type in "Mental Health Expert Examines the Claim. Dr AbuEesa & Hamza" ) , it's a 4-hour live where the physical effects of revelation are described point by point. Who , what, when, and how...
I certainly cannot disagree with the way you feel towards Hamza way of debating.
If you think his arguments are just "maneuvers", and "tactics", if you don't wanna take an eternal, HUGE and unnecessary risk in the afterlife on the day of judgement ( no matter its probabilistic percentage is ) and you care about your salvation, I strongly advise you to seek truth, my friend. Read "The Clear Quran" (Mustafa Khattab, a oretty accurate translation of the Quran). Also I highly recommend you to try joining the "Open forum" with EfDawah's team, and represent your points.
Every Sunday at 8:30 PM BST, they hold open discussions and Q&As regarding Atheism/Agnosticism, Islam, and Monotheism, everyone is welcomed.
Good luck, brother/Sister😊
@@Jesushas1God hey thanks for the clarification, I appreciate you taking the time to answer
@@sidneytorck9141 You're welcome my friend . May you find peace of mind, guidance and truth 😊 Amen, ya Allah ... 🤲
What a RUBBISH debate on the part of the ginger dude. "You can't be crazy and lying, coz crazy people think they're telling the truth." So, crazy people don't lie..?? C'mon man! All ego, no substance. It's a shame, because if he was more intelligent he could have made some really good points about Islam and taught that guy something beautiful. Instead, I'm sure he's put off for life after that clumsily aggressive interaction.
Every Atheist with locical Thinking who searches for Anwers will accept Islam at the End✌🏽
Islam and logic do not fit. Nothing logical with islam.
In Sha'Allah....
Never!!! 😂😂😂😂
@@harryd8010
Thats why I put „with logical Thinking“ lil bro
@@lacabron what’s logical about choosing a pedo to be a prophet? Loooool
As much as I appreciate Hamza, I believe Luke needed a different approach. There were never complete thoughts or modified questions. Just a complete disservice for Luke…
I like brother Hamza approach, "Can heart of a stone be cut with a flower's petal? definitely not. Similarly, Gentle words are ineffective on a foolish man".
He's panicking the same was I panicked, years ago. But it's there. He just needs to open his mind and learn the truth. Be willing to learn and read.
May Allah guide him. He seems like a genuine person.
He is fine the way he is and does need guidance. Don’t force things on people.
@@Very-old-manwe all need guidance lol. There's not one of us here who doesn't. It's actually a way a believer would show affection if they pray for someone else's guidance and we all need affection and love from one another.
@@aishaarshadalam3412 It is a weird way of showing affection. Do what you want I guess.
Turning the table at every damn turn. You have a positive claim BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU.
Wallahi Hamza is a genius at dawah. May Allah accept brother.
What is infuriating in this discussion is that Hamza does a rapid drilling of preordained questions, makes logical fallacies, and most grievously assumes answers to an extent that is bewildering. Over and over again, he uses straw man arguments to misinterpret Luke´s answers. And when Hamza loses his footing, at the end of the video, he starts insulting and blithering his counterpart. "...and you're too arrogant now to admit this... " (24:26) and again "...Surrender your flipping arrogance..." (24:31) When, in the exact same instant, Hamza claims to know the intention of God, Hamza seems to become the antithesis of the image that he says he wants to project "... you've only got three choices left yeah, yeah, open mind, though Luke uses this" ( 21:41) Says Hamza while tapping his own forehead in a condescending way. It becomes almost comical when you consider that Luke is the only one of the two who is ready to concede when he feels that he lacks the right response or feel unsure about something. Where is the open mind when you assume that there can only be three choices? If he just gave Luke the moment to ask his own questions back and let him answer in his own way, we might have gotten a much more interesting discussion. This is not how you have a decent discussion or debate.
For example: "Does the thing or things (in the divine sense) who creates us have the best intentions for us?" That's a good and truly interesting question that can have lots of answers, and it's a question that man has struggled with throughout history. How do we know that our creator/creators made us just for amusement? How do we know that the thing or things even care at all for us or have the best intention in mind? If you want to make this kind of hypothetical question, the point shouldn't be to seek an answer, because there is no way of proving either way. It would be better to make an existential and open discussion where you don't need or feel forced to take a side.
My gut feeling is that this video speaks to those who see the discussion as a sporting event and to self-aggrandize in what you've already "know" to be true, and not to challenge one's own beliefs.
May Allah guide this misguided brother
This is a nonsense. Hamza keeps creating false dichotomies and forcing people to commit. Ultimately, you can't prove anything spiritual with logic. Because it is not of this world.
it is really tricky speaking to people candidlly and as you do so shattering their beliefs and forcing them to think can be devastating. I hope this guy does his homework, even if it is to become more informed.
Thinking leads you away from theism, not towards it.
That is certainly an ignorant thing to say. I'd simply refute that by saying theism throughout history led us to more significant amounts of scientific knowledge of all of life. For example the Islamic Golden Age. These men founded medicines, studied anatomy, complex mathematics, astronomy and learned 10000000x more than their forefathers. Yet they still believed. Yet they thought. They thought a LOT. Why didnt they go astray? Because they were scared? Of what? Anybody can simply stop believing and mask a persona that they do believe. But they clearly didnt. @@timcollett99
This is horrible. I watched the whole video waiting to hear his irrefutable truth of god and how it is that Mohammed was clearly right and all I got was a loudmouth who cut off any answers not leading where he wanted it to go and insistence that the person he was trying to enlighten "hypothetically" believe what he believes.
There are lots of other options: a capricious god, a god so complicated that we are unto him no more than dust mites are to us, a god who sees us as playthings, no god at all... Who could possibly know in an absolute truth sense who or if god is...
As for Mohammed, yes he could have been crazy, he could have been lying, he could have been delusional based on a lack of sleep and liked the outcome of his delusions so he decided to ride them until he too believed they were true, he could have been telling all the truth, he could have been one of Giorgio Tsoukalos' aliens, he could have been an apocalypst who misread the signs or his imagination... Where was the undeniableness of the authenticity of his message?
Hamza, suspend disbelief, just for a moment just for a moment... Accept that God was begat of another... I'm not asking you to believe in God having a daddy, not yet... 😉 But if he did, and his daddy was exactly how someone else believes him to be, wouldn't that mean that God is not as special as you think he is? Stupid way of conducting an argument.
This guy is smart and he's obviously zealous. I'm sure he's made a fortune selling cars or Amway or something, because his whole schtick is super aggressive salesman guy.
And pretty gross to, at the end, while surrounded by a massive group of Muslim men, put him on the spot about Hamas. A smart and virtuous man would know better than to do that.
Awesome Hamza. Always winning discussions..😊
Ok this was ridiculous, hamza lead the entire debate and made him choose from his options " You can either choose option a or option b" Like why? He made this entire debate black and white and people are saying that he's sharp and convincing? I've been researching islam and following a few scholars and listening to lectures/ debates, but this ain't the one lol
I have no doubt hamza is a devout Muslim with good knowledge on islam.
May allah guide Luke❤
Amen ❤️🤲🤲 (PS : his name is Luke )
Hamza is making it too long, all he needs to do is present the Argument From Contingency
The prophet wasn't condescending when doing dawah,,,Hamza needs to change his ways while keeping a front foot position
Nice guy! We ask Allah swt to guide him! Ameen
Don’t forget the speaker here can be quiet intimidating behind him many men and the way he act, sorry, I don’t like this. He doesn’t prove anything and mostly speak to random people from the streets. You’re talking to everyday people. The scholars should be debating this area, not for the street people.
5 Questions:
1. Do you believe in the absolute truth?
2. Do you care about knowing the absolute truth?
3. Which method do u use to seek out the absolute truth?
4.???
4. Did you find the truth?
5. Why do you believe that it is the truth?
As a historian, do you believe that a man named Mohammed (SAW ) existed and that he claimed that an angel came to him in a cave?
What could explain the claim from an atheistic perspective?
À belief: an acceptance of a proposition that you've heard
Truth is not something that is valued in islam only in Christianity, islam value submission, obey and don't ask. Truth is not important in that religion. Taqqyia is even Islamic.
4- Did you find the truth?
5- Why do you believe it is the truth?
@@YoungRamsis thanks
@@MoorfHiden-wq2ouyou and your irrelevant platitudes, obviously you didn't watch the video.. the whole video is about truth in islam
@@MoorfHiden-wq2ou Islam means submission to the will of Allah (God) or Peace through serving Allah (God) a Muslim is some one who submits his will to Allah (God) Abraham Moses Noah Jesus and Mohammed peace be upon them all submitted their will to the Creator. Hence Islam is the only true Religion.
As for yout points on schziophrenia, whether intentionally or not, you were very misleading, twice. First you asked for one disorder that could cause his behaviour, and continued to assume that was the only disorder, which it most deifnitely is not. Second, the 3 symptoms you named are not the only symptoms, they dont all have to be present, which is why they are grouped up as different kinds of schziophrenia.
10:02 "I believe Islam is the one that makes the most rational sense, but I don't believe in islam"
Wow, what a confession
Bit like winning a tallest midget contest though no?
I have to disagree that actually does make sense.
To say that you don't believe in a concept because in general it doesn't make sense, but then this one out of them all makes the most sense, is not oxymoronic or not contradictory at all.
Hamza appreciate your passion and what you’re doing brother but you need to be more careful on your tone my friend, I know you’ve got that fire in you but this gentleman was so respectful to you all along. He listened to you every step of the way but your emotions got in the way this time.
Please dont let your emotions take over the conversation mate!
May Allah give all of us more knowledge and guidance.
May Allah guide Alex. Sadly this mindset Is seen in a lot of people who over emphasis analytical thinking over intuitive thinking.
I am sorry, with humbleness, i think he could be much more nicer and persuasive mentioning the miracles of the Quran proving God
Luke, just open the Qur'an and give it a read with an open heart, and see what it does for you - Inshallah 🤲
Hamzah why are you jumping so much. Pick an argument and hammer down until it's clear that God exists
ما شاء الله عليك يا حمزة
It's funny that atheists say Muhammad salallahu alayhi wassalam was pursuing power when he was tortured and insulted and humiliated over Islam. No one would undergo through these things and the rejection of friends and family over a power they yet don't have and have no idea if they will unless it's true.
I love brother Hamze, he is smart and quick witted, passionate
You forgot smug
@@nickdean3152 Yes the atheist had a smug face but it vanished as soon as he got confronted by Hamza
There’s a problem with the last argument. The creator of an AI doesn’t necessarily know more than this AI in the field where it was trained. And it’s the main goal of AI. So the creator doesn’t necessarily know better than the creation in the case of AI
May Allah reward you brother Hamza with highest heaven
Well that was a complete and utter waste of time. This Muslim guy didn't convince anyone of anything.
Thanks!
Assalamualaikum brother, I don't think this da'wah was helpful to the ummah to be frank. This was just 30 mins of talking over Luke's perspective and guiding him down tenuous argumentation while calling what he says stupid (see 13:24), and then not actually grappling with Luke's fundamental questions about the religion. You could have had a better conversation with him on the scientific method route had you not been condescending, and you could have heard Luke better when he tried engaging with your homework, but rather you coddled him and said you'd make it easy for him like he's a child. Had you treated him like a human with a brain and not been so condescending, I'm sure he might be more open to have a real honest conversation. I'm sure you didn't mean to do that, but I'm telling you as a third party, it certainly came off that way. May Allah(swt) guide him, may you reconsider this form of proselytising.
Hi Hamza, i see throu your eyes you are a good soul, we need more human being like you.
using foney arguments to prove that a god exists, i can use the same logic to say unicorns, ghosts and trolls exist, but we all know they dont. If you cant prove its excistence then you cant say its true. Prove the excistence of god and i will believe
Luke seems like a good guy thats sincere, i hope he is guided
*Luke
the guy just confused for real because not interested in religion. He still young and lack of knowledge an experience. It will change as he got older and start facing difficulties in life.
Luke looks like a genuine man ❤
Will it all matter when that big nuclear reactor called the sun explodes and sends the solar system and all our atoms into space ,when where gone the universe will still be expanding and life in other galaxies and time will carry on how do you explain that one ?
SubhanAllah
The Quran 14 hundred years old ❤
So why did it take 4.5 billion years to wait for it?
@@mjhmjh6444 Aww Man i wish you all the best with my heart
Every one wants the the truth The Quran talks about the Big bang .
PEOPLE you don't take any thing from this world Only what good you have done .
Thank you
@@mjhmjh6444 There were no humans at that time. And there were other books and messages before the Quran. So, what are you on about?
Think before commenting next time.
@mjhmjh6444 simple answer Truth creator willing to send final message for humanity at that time
@@searchrightthings.947 I don't understand the logic behind your comment.
Allah revealed other books and messages to different prophets throughout history.
He willed to send down the Quran 1400 years ago. How does that falsify or refute the message?
The day you will believe this when your time is up & the Angel Of Death comes to take your soul.
Always the same. Atheist gives a valid an argument. Hamza plays a uno card with a pseudointelectual argument using a word salad. There's no rebuttal, leaving everyone (including us) confused.
What was the argument in the first place with all these questions he's asking back to the atheist? Is this video proof that he's won the argument? I guess we'll never know. His fans will thumbs up, and in his own world, as evidenced by his smug smile at times, that's an "atheist owned".
I'm just distracted by the snack the sister is having behind brother Hamza.
Hamza your the man keep up the good work brother
Explain how God created us and why?.. did he / she / they get board one day after eternity and think I'm gonna create this grain of sand and call it earth, then creat life, death , wars religion love hate ect ect 😂
Mohammad existed and he gave us the Quran, either he's lying crazy or telling the truth, knowing his well documented history, its the last option, with this anyone who's sincere will be a muslim. Thank you Hamza may allah reward you, ill be using this
Or deceived(by a demon), the 4th possibility, that sometimes christians claim(easy refutable),..there are a few videos in which Hamza demonstrate these 4 "variables"
How does a well documented history mean he was telling the truth? 😂😂😂
@@harryd8010 Did you listen what 's the "homework " given to Luke? Try to do the same,with the same open mind and will to find the truth...who knows...maybe you ll become muslim? In Sha'Allah...
@@harryd8010 didn't you hear the "homework" Hamza gave him to do? Try to do the same and maybe, with an open mind and the will to seek the truth, you ll understand why...
@@harryd8010 cuz he was a charismatic leader with an empire so he wasnt nuts, and he was known as the most honest and truthful and already had everything he wanted from love and power so he wasnt lying
the atheist is so defensive, beating around the bush because he's trapped the whole time. Too egoistic to come out of the bush
Omg !! That was one NICE guy may allah guide him YA ALLAH .
First time watching ur channel bro u are doing great job tabarakallah btw u look like messi when he grow old
Thanks for the amazing content
How can you disprove something that was hundreds of years ago? You cant
(الله أكبر) سينتشر المسلمون في العالم وسينتصر المسلمين وستصبح الحياه عادله حياه بدون ظلم وضد الظلم وسيرفعون المسلمون راية التوحيد ويكبرون الله (الله أكبر)