Everybody thinks they're the merchant, until you get a glimpse behind the veil, and see that life has an NTR tag and Mastercard is a tall tan guy with blond hair and one earring.
@@SexPositiveGaming I work in this industry. I followed you on pateron, there is a looooooot more to this, oh boy. if you only knew how the sausage was being made.
Third party consultancy firms like that one that is entirely mastercard talking to itself and asset managers are the bane of modern accountability and old anti-trust laws. They are neo-monopolies.
theirs so many signs right now of over-regulation in the west not only from the countries themself but companies like mastercard limiting our options, its saddening that the trust in individuals is slipping it seems.
@@Tompa8411 the thing is the whole financial industry needs a lot more regulation, They cannot be trusted with even an inch of freedom. Because they will take a whole ten miles and then the tax payers save their golden parachutes when they F up again.
@@SexPositiveGaming stop trying to be a lawyer without learning how to be one first or at least have one explain to you how you are completely wrong about this subject that you are just having "open conversation about". vibes based beliefs on legislated issues rather than reading the relevant laws is so braindead, it is what gets us trump and flat earthers. your 'common sense' is anything but common, nor sensical.
@@Ban-Milk-Enjoyer From the few documentaries i saw, not that much because they struggle way too hard to recruit young people. So their population is aging deadly fast.
Nathan Rothschild: *I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the empire on which the sun never sets.* *the man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British empire, and I control the British money supply.* *let me issue and control a nations money, and I care not who makes its laws.* Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
We need government regulations preventing payment processors from blocking sales of anything that isn't very clearly illegal. They should be content agnostic. That would also help insulate the payment processors from any repercussions, if they care about that (they don't).
@@SexPositiveGaming The problem is that government regulation means that they have the power in the first place. By having the govt choose an elite allowed to do payment processing, they crushed the free market. Effectively they made internet transactions a branch of the Total State. And since they are phasing out cash transactions, the only alternative will be crypto - and they keep talking about criminalising that.
Good luck with that, that would go against all the regulations and how they work as a system I work in the field, even with Mastercard. I'm just surprised they got the focus on them. Usually it's the provider who's holding the licence and who got all the repercussions. But I don't know this case in particular, maybe it's because it's their in house provider
And this wasn't even going into the bad actors who just want to outlaw all porn and will pressure the payment processers. Incredible work. good journalism
I didn't go thru all the comments so forgive me if it's been mentioned already. At 0:06, Ken Akamatsu was named. If he sounds familiar, he is the creator of the manga\anime "Love Hina" and "Mahou Sensei Negima" over 15 years ago. He recently (about 2 years ago?) ran for his current council position and won because of his love and involvement with the art genre in Japan and how artist were being stifled.
@@SexPositiveGaming I don’t recall Seed of The Dead devs Team Krama having issues other then needing a patch from english localizers publisher site if you get it on steam
@@patyos2 I can confirm that I am able to buy the game on steam and play it. While it would be nice to be able to download the full version of the game from steam right at the start but downloading the patch from the publisher's site and applying it to the game is alright.
@@jinhong91 that’s why I’ve been putting game patches and installing games on external hard drtive backups for years I have hundreds of folders for all the kagura games patches alone
This video has given me an unFATHOMABLE amount of insight. Im not entirely sure why there are ZERO videos on RUclips, with this much condensed and complete information about this system. I’ve only seen pieces of this system explained. I genuinely think you may be one of the only channel with complete knowledge about this system, in relation to NSFW content. Ill be adjusting how I move as a creator going forward because of this video. Thank you.
It is not just in regard to NSFW content, the very few mostly control the flow of information as well as transactions for the many. ruclips.net/video/Fhgm5b8BR0k/видео.htmlsi=s9wkJ6vQ5KG5fchd
I think because Visa and Mastercard don't want the attention. This whole process was basically created to divert the perception of their responsibility.
Not only is it from the companies making this process to bury shift blame, it's also from the initial calls of action. Not very many people want to be the ones who are going against the 'stop trafficking children' actions. Yes, this whole process is reaching _far_ beyond that, but it's what the pushback is going to be about.
@@leadpaintchips9461 you will find a lot of legal bills use that stratagy. The bill could be called the "save the world" bill but have nothing to do with that, but opposition to it would mean others could point at you and say you are against the world.
Okay, so the JP government got lied to, man, and here I thought there was another player involved... but I thought people only went on the internet and told lies, and not to government officials... We can't have nice things.
@@SexPositiveGaming It's quite obvious if anyone follows the ideal of Evil. It will be fun when all of this song and dance comes to a close. In more ways than one. Such is the inevitable. Humanity... ... ...
Can't a game dev make a completely SFW innocent version of a game and sell it, then somehow mysteriously a 20gb overhaul mod pack for hardcore sex version of the game is found online by an "anonymous" contributor the same day? Surely Mastercard can't claim the game to be non-puritan adhering because a random mod like that exists? This is what seed of the dead kind of did. Of course this isn't perfect solution. I would know because I played SotD 80% through before I realized it had that "mod".
That's what happens on steam. Most 18+ games that are sold on Steam are stripped of all of that content and you need to go to the publisher website to get the patch for that content.
@@SexPositiveGaming This whole situation is unfathomable. I wonder what kind of twisted skeletons the people responsible for this have in their closets.
I remember this being a common practice on Steam some years ago, but I also remember that it eventually caused a mass ban of games and the whole mess escalated to the point that Valve just agreed to allow NSFW games on the store as long as they stopped doing that. I'm not particularly informed on NSFW games, I'm just one of those "big" spenders on Steam that actually follows the changes on store policies, so I couldn't tell you where the line of what's considered acceptable is nowadays, but I can tell you that among the userbase there's a lot of conflicted opinions about if 18+ content should be allowed on the store or not so you can't really count on the users to back up developers on this. There's a chance that if too many devs start doing this stuff covertly again some conservative players groups might start a new crusade to ban NSFW games once again, there's already small scale "wars" over LGBTQ content every now and then and with those we're usually just talking about same-sex couples being depicted or pronouns options.
As westerners, we have been educated in materialist thought, that companies will always maximize revenues even to the user's detriment, so it's very bizarre to see these companies talk about brand damage while leaving money in the table. They are either lying and there's a deeper motive, they are moralizing too hard or they are doing mental gymnastics and think that these games could run afoul of gov regulation or maybe just trigger the population too much and damage the revenue in the future.
They think they are saving money by "protecting the brand." I don't know if they are right, but then people do stupid things that they think are smart every day.
You are thinking in the too-near term. There is a reason companies don’t sell contraband or smuggled materials or try to bribe officials. They are very serious about “brand damage” the reason people will pay $1000 for a Louis Vuitton purse, but not the same for a Chinese knock off is literally the brand, literally the company’s name. Customers will turn on a brand in a heartbeat if they think it is betraying their values. Look at the Bud Light protests of 2022
@@SexPositiveGaming "Protecting the brand" is just their way of justifying religious (not all religions have a god) policy. It's not surprising that certain payment processors are in the top 10 among large companies for good boy point scores.
Its about control for example there is a push to get banks to restrict legal sales of firearms in the US for example Bank of America is trying to ban the use of their services in the purchase of "military style rifles"
People say "whatever is just porn that it is banned", what people don't realize is that it's like the frog in boiling water-something you love will be next, and no one will defend it the same way you did before.
"Everything is r4cist" eventually becomes "Everything is r4pe." or "Everything is t3rror1sm." The definitions of contentious phrases only broaden, until they're replaced with new phrases that will be further surveyed. It is a Helica Puritatis (Spiral of Purity) by design, and the idea is that your survival response is based on the social validation of others and finding any means necessary to become the next "truly ahead of its time"-ator (a value that fluctuates harder than stocks).
I’m so happy someone is bringing this to light. Just sucks that we’re small and can’t make a true difference. Like what does a small community like this do to get our point across?
Reach out to your members of parliament/senators/representatives. Have them bring up the issues of payment processors restricting freedom of speech. They probably have no idea about it, but would be really interested if they did, since monopoly-busting and things like that are super popular platforms to run a political career on
Pay attention to the broader issue and find others whom the payment processors have been trying similar things to. In this case, some of these exact tactics and efforts have been turned on another, larger, and better politically connected industry: firearms. If in the US, try and ally with the firearms industry to get congress to pass a generic regulation on banks and payment processors that basically says they cannot deny service unless the business is explicitly illegal. This might mean otherwise holding your nose and working with politicians you don't like, but I can tell you that right now only one political party in the US is likely to go against the financial industry and it's not the one most people would expect...
8:30 Even though they are talking about laws regarding real people, that's not the directive being handed down to the banks operating the merchant accounts. When this started happening in 2020, our legal adult comic site, basically had someone say "nope" to hundreds of pages of legacy content, none of which depicts real people. Like we previously modified the policy to have "must be human anatomy" to avoid the monster-related categories from being nuked, but they basically took offense to anything that wasn't M/F, M/M or F/F humans. No fantasy characters, no vampires, no costumes, it was insane. Eventually some common sense prevailed somewhere, but there are still entire chapters of legacy content that are disabled and have no possibility of being restored.
@@SexPositiveGaming Honestly, at that point I rather be done with this facade and bring forth total control. But I can wait for eternities. The reality that was shall be, knowingly or not by Mankind. It will be fun when unchecked ambition controls Man.
Not the first example of high levels of bureaucratic CYA (Cover Your A*$) that has become toxic, but I hope this goes viral, and the topic eventually gets picked up by an "official" journalist. BTW, odds are those Japanese Pols were doing CYA and had a pretty good idea what answer they would get when they went in there. These big companies only use bureaucratese as encryption, as they need to be able to legally say it's all been done publicly.
I've spent the last few years on the internet unsure about why this was happening. There were all of these threads, like the Japanese visit to VISA, that just made things more confusing. This is the first video I've seen that tied everything together. Thank you so much for talking about this! I'll follow the breadcrumbs on your Patreon, and I hope a major journalist/channel covers this soon!
Ok, a shout out for the Game Theory reference at the end there. Couldn't agree more - forget algebra and geometry - the two seemingly esoteric fields of math and logic that absolutely should be taught to every student from grade school on are Game Theory and Probability. These two form the basis of so much of our society and economy, and whether you realize it or not, they shape the lives of every person, every day.
@@cacaculo-fp2ko People do seem to have a slightly more intuitive grasp of game theory - necessary because it underpins a lot of human social interaction - but one thing I've noticed is that most people have an inherent bias towards either viewing the world in zero-sum competitive terms or positive-sum cooperative terms, and the people in either camp can be difficult to convince that the other viewpoint or condition is viable - or even exists. It seems to be something of a core personality trait in many people and a deeper understanding of how those systems really work might help people break out of those.
Thanks for shedding some light on this. I don't know if it's better learning how fucked the process is, but at least there's some silver lining in knowing others are as equally baffled by it all. There's nothing worse during the creative process than trying to cater to non-defined rules that change on case-by-case basis.
@@Noperare "Cool... Then I'm dropping the deal. No need to be worthless in front of me. Mankind is the payment after all. And all are on the table to wager."
Inb4 Dad gets cancelled. Seriously, though, great vid. Hate that so many devs have to deal with these silly restrictions. These games are art and they deserve all the patronage the market wants to give them.
This is the first time I've sat through the entirety of one of your videos. Not all of your content is for me, so I'm not sure if I'll sub. But you peeked into a dark rabbit hole that you might never get out of if you fall in. Thanks for your interview.
Just a curiosity point, here in Brazil we have a payment method called PIX created by the goverment and supported by all banking institutions operating in the country, it allow direct transfer of money in seconds, open any bank app, scan a QR code and done, the payment is made, many stores and companies use it as an alternative to stay away from the credit card fees. If a global version of this was avaliable, there would be no moderation of private companies based on arbitrary values, the access would only be prevented if the bank account where fronzen by judical order of the goverment.
I think any system is going to be vulnerable to exploitation by the powerful. The best chance of a better world is to help create a more informed and engaged "body politic".
(Before watching the video and will apply an edit at the end if different/new info pops up) As far as I'm aware, there have been large payment processors and banks who have gone out of their way to block certain companies and websites from using their services if they sell certain kinds of products and services, usually related to art and sexual content. This is to say that they don't block their services use for any kind of art or sexual content, but anything that they generally disagree with (ie. More riske and niche content not consumed by general consumers and sometimes content seen as legal but morally skewed). As far as I'm aware, 99.9999% of the time, regardless of how you may view the content, the content has been legal and consumed by consenting adults. (I have also heard heresay of implementing stops to other products of more political bent, but I have not seen this occur, nor has proof of such been forthcoming) Regardless, it is my belief that if a service or product is legal, these payment processors shouldn't have the power to stop these transactions from taking place, nor is it their place to be moral arbiters of such. We have the law and our own morals to police our actions, we don't need companies to step in and essentially threaten us to fall in line. Edit: So, WTF! They treat everyone like RUclips treats its content creators? This is getting more and more F'd as I learn about it...
@@SexPositiveGamingNothing to say sorry about, just kinda frustrated that companies and individuals are more and more frequently policing others based on their own ideals and trying to force them on others. This is annoying but manageable for the most part when talking about such entities that don't have much power over you except to try and convince you or limit their own products and services to such things. Easily ignored, but becoming insanely common, especially in the videogaming space. An organization or company that has power on par with a government in their ability to influence others, like being able to threaten your livelihood on a whim, is terrifying. I've heard reports of whole businesses having to restructure simply because payment processors threatened to remove their ability to accept payments. Not that I participate in their service, but awhile back I heard that Only Fans almost changed their whole site because of payment processors were threatening them (ie. Remove all adult content). This would have ruined their business completely. Unsure how they kept going (probably introduced stricter guidelines), but they did withdraw their inital plans due to customer and employee backlash.
@@net_spider As expected from the Left Hand of Kings. This is normal. It only makes the finality all the more sweeter to me. The end of Mankind. I would rather not enjoy that Fate but only indifference remains now. Amusing of humans.
Amazing work and such important information!!! Visa and mastercard should have used the layers to have ignorance not punishment. This is ridiculous!!!!
You guys should also look into the Financial Times' investigative podcast on this topic, called "Hot Money" by Patricia Nilsson and Alex Barker. Honestly I hate that it's in podcast format, and it starts off kind of slow, but it was really eye-opening in clarifying the current DLSite situation and all. They go kind of deeper into the general history of how online adult sites work and how they make money (or not).
I think the change over the last half-decade has been pretty interesting to watch. The standard for US law, which for the financial industry means global standards, is that corporations can chose what they can and can’t do business with. They’re allowed to not take your money. They’re allowed to refuse to host your content. It’s only the government who are forbidden from this kind of viewpoint discrimination, and it’s at the highest legal levels of scrutiny. But very recently we’ve seen this idea that corporations should also be bound by speech laws, that they shouldn’t discriminate based on content. But at the same time… I’ll bet dollars to donuts the people you dug up as being in charge of the Visa/Mastercard investigation system? They make political donations to only a certain political party. A party that is very much pro-viewpoint discrimination… while saying corporations should also be subject to free speech laws.
Most of the people at the top donate to both as a way to hedge their bets and stay in power. We only hear about the few who do take a side, because it is so uncommon and it helps perpetuate a narrative that helps keep the general population divided against each other.
Thanks for the discussion. Thanks for editing the visuals so it was easier to listen to. Can you list the games that you were showing in the video? Thank you.
26:50 I think one aspect of that that you haven't talked about yet is the wording of "...issued instructions to restrict transactions using specific terms." I think the phrasing of "specific terms" is important here. If the instructions are "anything that damages the brand" then they are not "using specific terms"
And now, I'm annoyed because I just passed that bit where I could have made Alexia do Greymane. I'm not normally a fan of stuff like that, but if Mastercard told me I can't, then by golly, I can learn to like it.
Is this currently enacted in the steam version? Ive noticed there has been a sudden pause on Greymane interactions after getting drunk with him and having Alexia meet him outside.
Interesting Topic and nice video! I wish you would include the names or if YT doesnt allow that, at least SOME way for us viewers to know what games you are showing footage of, there've been many times now where I saw something in your videos that looked like it could interest me, but no way of figuring out what game that is, besides asking in the comments and hoping someone knows and tells me.
Great video, thanks for sharing! Only thing I disagree with was actually about the comments about the Play Nice book...Jason Schreier makes it pretty clear how it all goes down without needing to have to explicitly tell you conclusions that the other speaker stated here. Hell, when introducing Kotick in the book he quotes a pretty damning line that sets the tone for the buyout later on with "The goal I had [...] was to take all the fun out of making video games." And that even isn't going into the later chapters on how Kotick is constantly breathing down their necks and forces them to hire a CFO that changes their financial structure to more anti-consumer practices, causing a huge shift in the company. The book also highlights pushback from the execs to try and keep Kotick out of their culture and processes so they can maintain their brand and quality. If you feel like the book was implying that the execs were either not doing enough or were complicit...well, it's because they were. They definitely enjoyed Blizzard successes and kept money at the top, and their decisions still ultimately shaped Blizzard to what it is today. I dunno, feels like we read different books here.
@@nicholasgerry6169 the problem with crypto is the same problem with NFT. Scammer destroyed the entire ecosystem so bad, that any crypto will always be FUD.
To be specific. Cash that can back digital currency. Not some fake money that can be erased so easily by the whims of corporate and organized coalitions.
As dangerous as government expansion is I see no way out of this without implementing common carrier type laws for payment processors and everything along that whole chain or straight up nationalizing the entire thing.
@@SexPositiveGaming It is actually, rather simple. But even though all these human issues are outdated to me. Observing mankind is much more entertaining than intervening myself. For better or worst by humanity since their existence.
So you're telling me american corporations behave like supranational governments, including enacting their own laws and policies? I am shocked! Shocked I say!
Given that every game I used had been banned or censored because of what I was talking about, I was honestly afraid to. I did, however, put the list on Patreon for everyone to be able to access.
I learned about this when OF became a thing and a bunch of adult creators explained similar things happening where their Paypal accounts would just disappear and such.
I have some questions about some things said in the video. - It was not 100% clear if it's JP Morgan's policy to not explain the reason for termination or if it's the payment providers rules? I assume the later and it's not just JP Morgan being one of the few who has it mentioned explicitly, - Can and do acquirers have multiple monitors or do they always just have one? - If a monitor works for 2 different acquirers and they discover for one of them that a merchant is breaking the rules would they also inform the other?
1) That seems to be the policy of every acquirer to some degree. This process appears to be intentionally murky as a feature. 2) Yes and the larger acquirers will use internal means alongside those "3rd parties". 3) Unlikely due to privacy and NDA reasons, but there seems to be some evidence of emerging shared databases of (let's call them) "problematic brands" that effectively accomplish this. Every adult content creator should just expect that they are on various watch lists. Both of a legal as well as a economic nature. I know I am and have actually faced "debanking" on multiple occasions given the substance of what I cover.
I feel like the extremely obvious question to have asked when Visa blamed the other company was, “Why on earth do you care whether or not this so-called unrelated company approves of your transactions?”
classic case of big companies turning online spaces into the equivalent of an IKEA showroom to maximize profit and minimize the chances of reputation loss also knowing about the sheer scale and the amount of influence Mastercard&Visa hold feels like facing an eldritch god
This is one of those things were stuff like NFTs have an actual use. More or less it's an intermediary medium of exchange for transactions that would be blocked otherwise. It just looks like overpriced random junk for those not in-the-know about the actual exchange purpose. (Basically somebody buys the "safe" thing in order to actually pay for the "not so safe" thing from the same seller. Thus a token or coupon type of system of circumvention.)
@@somdudewillson We're talking about tamer versions of digital art that's innocuous, thus being ignored by financial transaction services. In turn that has some code or watermark where it's purchase value can be exchanged for the more restricted material. Such a schema may be easier to setup by an artist or production studio than having to deal with varying exchange rates of some coin. So it's an in-house token or coupon service, which more or less follows the NFT shema to those unclear on exactly what it is intended for.
Can you add a list of all the games shown in the video? I noticed some like carnal instinct, but I want to know about the others because they looked interesting
Would you consider making a more condensed video on this topic? A 40-minute podcast about such a heavy subject feels a bit long and everywhere, and I think the depth of your investigative work was somewhat diluted by the podcast format and interactions. Just a thought, don't take it the wrong way
I support creative freedom. It seems to me that thanks to these account-less monopolies, we'll be going back to sending cheques in the post soon enough, like people had to back in the 80's... so much for advancement.
Yeah this kind of stuff is what killed two of my games way back. There was no reasonable way to allow consenting adults who wanted to buy the games we wanted to make, which were honestly extremely vanilla - all because of the payment processors. To add insult, they were mobile games and as a separate issue Apple also forces their morals on everyone with an iPhone, you can't install any apps except through the store which is ridiculously ideologically restricted.
At this point I want Visa, Mastercard and banks not be responsible for illegal activity money if this means we are free to buy any stuff we want. It sucks but it's a necessary price for freedom.
so in short a small group of people in most likely LA, CA, USA is deciding what is and isn't allowed to go through Visa and Mastercard on a global scale. That sounds like a bad thing. The fix that most likely will not happen but would be for the best for the nation is to have a government run credit card so it has to only obey the rules of the government not of some private company. Yes like everything it will in time get rules not everyone agrees with but if enough governments do this then the stranglehold the 2 global companies of VISA and Mastercard will stop being a stranglehold on the world economic system. The down side is it will cost more at the start as the set up will cost money then unless they make a rule that to do business in their country they have to accept the government run system not just VISA and Mastercard AND have issued every citizen a card for free with no fee per month nor any fee per year to the country's citizen i do not see any of them taking off.
It really boils my pi... err, 'yellow soda' that the American Morality police of Mastercard and Visa denies other people selling erotic/lewd art. I am reminded of a picture of 2 people and the Mastercard logo: Human 01: I like making erotic art and selling it Human 02: I like erotic art and buying it Mastercard: Well I don't! Fuck you! My memory might not be entirely perfect on that one... Thank you for the video, it was very informative! I really hope things will change Over There🙂
The person making the risque art needs to make tame art that Mastercard has no qualms with. This in turn is readily exchanged for the other content outside of the picture of the first transaction.
Regarding cultural differences and censorship... imagine, if you will, a world where VISA/MasterCard et al. censored violence instead of sex. Not only would that be aguably a healthier set of "morals" but how would that impact the current market for entertainment and services? Which people would be up in arms then?
They're not going to change anything until it *really* hurts the bottom line. Then they'll bend forwards and bare their cheeks like they always do. And, in the end, it will all be worse anyways
Russia and other "rogue states" have been eluding sanctions by transacting in gold, Bitcoin, and crypto. Already seen one site accepting Bitcoin as compensation. Merchants and artists may need to consider alternative payments to stay in business.
I represent the American Minotaur Association and my client here says that he was wronged by these credit card companies. He adamantly defends his performance in the game and although was paid, demands restitution. He's asking for 3.4 million dollars in coins and two-hundred and thirty thousand pounds of various meats. He says and I quote, "I can't help what I was given." We're still awaiting trial.
You know the irony...Strinova a newly released hero shot was just released in English and just right off the bat has much better character designs, in fact, their pose and design can pretty much give you a good clue about what their role is, for example, Ming has this bold type of pose and her design highlights that bold personality trait which fits her gameplay as her skills favours aggressive and is a master in 1v1. I could say more about Strinova character designs but I think another reason Concord bombed is that... it has a price tag and isn't unique, Strinova is a shoot sure but the ability to go 2d at any time is super unique and opens a whole can to new movement options and ability to dodge incoming bullets while you reload.
@@SexPositiveGaming _Theoretically_ they probably can already... it would just require bot makers to expend meaningful resources on each bot. :P (Although such a bot _could_ end up being largely indistinguishable from a human commenter, so maybe they're already here and we just don't notice them.)
Three points and a question: 1) Bitcoin payments are borderline unstoppable, and involve absolutely none of this payment processor BS. 2) Nostr cannot censor users whatsoever; there is no ability to stop any content creator from interacting and being funded in that ecosystem, and several already are. 3) If bitcoin were adopted by S creators, all those creators would be financially unstoppable. My question: WHY do creators keep hoping they get permission when they could just WIN instead?
Not as of yet, but all of the Mind Control censorship and rewrites eventually did show up in the Steam version. This is such a nightmare for developers.
Only when people are backed into a corner, will you see any action be done. Unfortunately, I've watched the world and seen how far things have to go before anybody even does anything...seriously, just look at people FINALLY saying something about all the garbage media we've had lately...It took a whole decade for them to even acknowledge the issues at hand within entertainment. I mean, I'm proud of them, it's progress, but it took so damn long. How much longer is it going to take for them to get even that much further? You know? With that said, I still have hope, and I know hope is naive, but it's also powerful. I have to believe that one day, people will figure this all out.
The same are gonna be said about AI content in at least the next 10 years when 90% of the internet are visibly AI generated. The realization is always late, hindsight is always 20/20.
Always the same scenario where Morals bully Logic, even though the morals stand on Implication not reality. (aka Fault tolerance, can be fixed/del etc) We know why they target japan first, cough their creativity really massive. I do feel indie game really got much much cleaner and advance, which also the reason they limit indie devs creativity. Always start with common rule, uncommon, then become niche rule and suddenly tyrant rules.
hey annie i found in 2 different discords a post from outlet media news about banks in japan blocking steam payments for adult games developed in japan this last week , do you know anything new about this?
hey, just wanted to ask if there is a list or anything on what games the footage comes from? especially in the intro part it switched between a bunch of them very quickly
always makes me a bit worried that how much power Visa and like wise have over our everyday life. makes me want deregulation of currency as it can be manipulated against people, which can always be used by large groups to serve their agenda.
32:08 I'd be furious. Imagine if Japan was like, "Hey USA. We no longer allow anyone to buy, sell, or trade Toyota or Nissan vehicles in your country." I'd be stuck driving my Titan until the engine blows up, and that's already happened once.
Everybody thinks they're the merchant, until you get a glimpse behind the veil, and see that life has an NTR tag and Mastercard is a tall tan guy with blond hair and one earring.
Masterchad!
I laughed unreasonably hard at Masterchad. This is the post.
@@SexPositiveGaming I work in this industry. I followed you on pateron, there is a looooooot more to this, oh boy. if you only knew how the sausage was being made.
@@SexPositiveGamingyup
@@naughtyhieroglyph669 Let's hear it! Ah but you probably have an NDA.
Third party consultancy firms like that one that is entirely mastercard talking to itself and asset managers are the bane of modern accountability and old anti-trust laws. They are neo-monopolies.
I think open conversation about the subject is a good first step.
theirs so many signs right now of over-regulation in the west not only from the countries themself but companies like mastercard limiting our options, its saddening that the trust in individuals is slipping it seems.
@@Tompa8411 the thing is the whole financial industry needs a lot more regulation, They cannot be trusted with even an inch of freedom. Because they will take a whole ten miles and then the tax payers save their golden parachutes when they F up again.
@@SexPositiveGaming stop trying to be a lawyer without learning how to be one first or at least have one explain to you how you are completely wrong about this subject that you are just having "open conversation about". vibes based beliefs on legislated issues rather than reading the relevant laws is so braindead, it is what gets us trump and flat earthers. your 'common sense' is anything but common, nor sensical.
it's the natural result of capitalism
"Oh we won't kill you we'll just make it so you can't use money"
Bruh ☠️
This is probably the most important topic I've ever covered, but I still tired to keep it as lighthearted as I could.
Fun-fact : this is literally what all the anti-yakuza laws do in japan. That's how Yakuzas are crumbling for better and/or worse.
@@Apostat35 didn't they bounce back after getting involved with cyber crimes though?
@@Ban-Milk-Enjoyer From the few documentaries i saw, not that much because they struggle way too hard to recruit young people. So their population is aging deadly fast.
Nathan Rothschild:
*I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the empire on which the sun never sets.*
*the man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British empire, and I control the British money supply.*
*let me issue and control a nations money, and I care not who makes its laws.*
Hope you have a great day & Safe Travels!
We need government regulations preventing payment processors from blocking sales of anything that isn't very clearly illegal. They should be content agnostic. That would also help insulate the payment processors from any repercussions, if they care about that (they don't).
I'm not sure what will work in the long run, but I think talking about it openly is a good first step.
@@SexPositiveGaming The problem is that government regulation means that they have the power in the first place. By having the govt choose an elite allowed to do payment processing, they crushed the free market.
Effectively they made internet transactions a branch of the Total State. And since they are phasing out cash transactions, the only alternative will be crypto - and they keep talking about criminalising that.
Honestly yeah, if the Internet is being treated like a public utility, then the same should apply to banks and payment processors.
Good luck with that, that would go against all the regulations and how they work as a system
I work in the field, even with Mastercard. I'm just surprised they got the focus on them. Usually it's the provider who's holding the licence and who got all the repercussions.
But I don't know this case in particular, maybe it's because it's their in house provider
Master card won't budge , and a healthy dose of lobbying (bribes) will keep the status quo.
And this wasn't even going into the bad actors who just want to outlaw all porn and will pressure the payment processers. Incredible work. good journalism
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Porn is evil
@@Yarizo no, evil is evil, porn is porn. there are evil people in porn just like there are evil people in the church/all religions.
@@Yarizo not as evil as people like you
@@Yarizothink of it like drugs or alcohol without the mental and/or bodily damage.
I didn't go thru all the comments so forgive me if it's been mentioned already.
At 0:06, Ken Akamatsu was named. If he sounds familiar, he is the creator of the manga\anime "Love Hina" and "Mahou Sensei Negima" over 15 years ago. He recently (about 2 years ago?) ran for his current council position and won because of his love and involvement with the art genre in Japan and how artist were being stifled.
Yes!
Oh, that's awesome! "Love Hina" was one of the first manga I read.
Seed of The Dead Sweet Home, Monster Girl Island, Monolith Bay, Erokin and Wild Life gameplay amazingly based!
Every game I used has had to deal with censorship and banning as a result of this process. I probably should have said that in the video.
@@SexPositiveGaming I don’t recall Seed of The Dead devs Team Krama having issues other then needing a patch from english localizers publisher site if you get it on steam
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@@patyos2 I can confirm that I am able to buy the game on steam and play it.
While it would be nice to be able to download the full version of the game from steam right at the start but downloading the patch from the publisher's site and applying it to the game is alright.
@@jinhong91 that’s why I’ve been putting game patches and installing games on external hard drtive backups for years I have hundreds of folders for all the kagura games patches alone
I was about to respond "It's censorship by the backdoor" until I started typing it.
Discovering new flavors!
Oh no🎉@@SexPositiveGaming
This video has given me an unFATHOMABLE amount of insight. Im not entirely sure why there are ZERO videos on RUclips, with this much condensed and complete information about this system.
I’ve only seen pieces of this system explained. I genuinely think you may be one of the only channel with complete knowledge about this system, in relation to NSFW content.
Ill be adjusting how I move as a creator going forward because of this video. Thank you.
Glad to help and Good luck!
It is not just in regard to NSFW content, the very few mostly control the flow of information as well as transactions for the many. ruclips.net/video/Fhgm5b8BR0k/видео.htmlsi=s9wkJ6vQ5KG5fchd
Wow, how is this not a larger story? Crazy - thanks for the coverage
I think because Visa and Mastercard don't want the attention. This whole process was basically created to divert the perception of their responsibility.
Not only is it from the companies making this process to bury shift blame, it's also from the initial calls of action.
Not very many people want to be the ones who are going against the 'stop trafficking children' actions. Yes, this whole process is reaching _far_ beyond that, but it's what the pushback is going to be about.
Big names that speak out get banned from the internet and payment processors...which usually ruins their career and limits their vocal reach.
Because it hits NSFW games and art and adult creators, and people don't care about those because it's "dirty" and "amoral" and not worth defending.
@@leadpaintchips9461 you will find a lot of legal bills use that stratagy. The bill could be called the "save the world" bill but have nothing to do with that, but opposition to it would mean others could point at you and say you are against the world.
Okay, so the JP government got lied to, man, and here I thought there was another player involved... but I thought people only went on the internet and told lies, and not to government officials...
We can't have nice things.
Like most things, it is complicated.
Just watch senate or congressional hearings, the most baldfaced lying under oath to elected officials is done on the regular
payment processors have been at war with porn for years and years now
True, but how the war is being fought has fundamentally changed.
Not at war with porn
Specifically at war with porn not controlled by some major companies. Incidentally mostly ran by the tribe
@@SexPositiveGaming
It's quite obvious if anyone follows the ideal of Evil.
It will be fun when all of this song and dance comes to a close. In more ways than one. Such is the inevitable.
Humanity... ... ...
Finally someone who calls out the source @commisaryarreck3974
For a while charge backs were a legit issue now a days they're more a problem than anything
Can't a game dev make a completely SFW innocent version of a game and sell it, then somehow mysteriously a 20gb overhaul mod pack for hardcore sex version of the game is found online by an "anonymous" contributor the same day? Surely Mastercard can't claim the game to be non-puritan adhering because a random mod like that exists? This is what seed of the dead kind of did. Of course this isn't perfect solution. I would know because I played SotD 80% through before I realized it had that "mod".
That's what happens on steam.
Most 18+ games that are sold on Steam are stripped of all of that content and you need to go to the publisher website to get the patch for that content.
That is a current market response, but platforms like Patreon do look at a developer's "off platform content" as part of their brand policing.
@@SexPositiveGaming This whole situation is unfathomable. I wonder what kind of twisted skeletons the people responsible for this have in their closets.
I remember this being a common practice on Steam some years ago, but I also remember that it eventually caused a mass ban of games and the whole mess escalated to the point that Valve just agreed to allow NSFW games on the store as long as they stopped doing that. I'm not particularly informed on NSFW games, I'm just one of those "big" spenders on Steam that actually follows the changes on store policies, so I couldn't tell you where the line of what's considered acceptable is nowadays, but I can tell you that among the userbase there's a lot of conflicted opinions about if 18+ content should be allowed on the store or not so you can't really count on the users to back up developers on this. There's a chance that if too many devs start doing this stuff covertly again some conservative players groups might start a new crusade to ban NSFW games once again, there's already small scale "wars" over LGBTQ content every now and then and with those we're usually just talking about same-sex couples being depicted or pronouns options.
@@axelprinosomeone tell Kagura cause they still do that lmao
As westerners, we have been educated in materialist thought, that companies will always maximize revenues even to the user's detriment, so it's very bizarre to see these companies talk about brand damage while leaving money in the table. They are either lying and there's a deeper motive, they are moralizing too hard or they are doing mental gymnastics and think that these games could run afoul of gov regulation or maybe just trigger the population too much and damage the revenue in the future.
I wish money was the top priority of a "Capitalist system"
Instead, it's the consolodation of power that is the goal of a "Corporatist system."
They think they are saving money by "protecting the brand." I don't know if they are right, but then people do stupid things that they think are smart every day.
You are thinking in the too-near term. There is a reason companies don’t sell contraband or smuggled materials or try to bribe officials. They are very serious about “brand damage” the reason people will pay $1000 for a Louis Vuitton purse, but not the same for a Chinese knock off is literally the brand, literally the company’s name. Customers will turn on a brand in a heartbeat if they think it is betraying their values. Look at the Bud Light protests of 2022
@@SexPositiveGaming "Protecting the brand" is just their way of justifying religious (not all religions have a god) policy. It's not surprising that certain payment processors are in the top 10 among large companies for good boy point scores.
Its about control for example there is a push to get banks to restrict legal sales of firearms in the US for example Bank of America is trying to ban the use of their services in the purchase of "military style rifles"
People say "whatever is just porn that it is banned", what people don't realize is that it's like the frog in boiling water-something you love will be next, and no one will defend it the same way you did before.
We are losing so many flavors to this right now.
"Everything is r4cist" eventually becomes
"Everything is r4pe." or
"Everything is t3rror1sm."
The definitions of contentious phrases only broaden, until they're replaced with new phrases that will be further surveyed.
It is a Helica Puritatis (Spiral of Purity) by design, and the idea is that your survival response is based on the social validation of others and finding any means necessary to become the next "truly ahead of its time"-ator (a value that fluctuates harder than stocks).
I’m so happy someone is bringing this to light. Just sucks that we’re small and can’t make a true difference. Like what does a small community like this do to get our point across?
I promise to keep trying to grow our space!
Reach out to your members of parliament/senators/representatives. Have them bring up the issues of payment processors restricting freedom of speech. They probably have no idea about it, but would be really interested if they did, since monopoly-busting and things like that are super popular platforms to run a political career on
Pay attention to the broader issue and find others whom the payment processors have been trying similar things to. In this case, some of these exact tactics and efforts have been turned on another, larger, and better politically connected industry: firearms.
If in the US, try and ally with the firearms industry to get congress to pass a generic regulation on banks and payment processors that basically says they cannot deny service unless the business is explicitly illegal. This might mean otherwise holding your nose and working with politicians you don't like, but I can tell you that right now only one political party in the US is likely to go against the financial industry and it's not the one most people would expect...
8:30 Even though they are talking about laws regarding real people, that's not the directive being handed down to the banks operating the merchant accounts. When this started happening in 2020, our legal adult comic site, basically had someone say "nope" to hundreds of pages of legacy content, none of which depicts real people.
Like we previously modified the policy to have "must be human anatomy" to avoid the monster-related categories from being nuked, but they basically took offense to anything that wasn't M/F, M/M or F/F humans. No fantasy characters, no vampires, no costumes, it was insane. Eventually some common sense prevailed somewhere, but there are still entire chapters of legacy content that are disabled and have no possibility of being restored.
Correct. You should expect to see further restrictions in the future as well as more and more flavors are prohibited.
@@SexPositiveGaming
Honestly, at that point I rather be done with this facade and bring forth total control.
But I can wait for eternities. The reality that was shall be, knowingly or not by Mankind.
It will be fun when unchecked ambition controls Man.
Not the first example of high levels of bureaucratic CYA (Cover Your A*$) that has become toxic, but I hope this goes viral, and the topic eventually gets picked up by an "official" journalist. BTW, odds are those Japanese Pols were doing CYA and had a pretty good idea what answer they would get when they went in there. These big companies only use bureaucratese as encryption, as they need to be able to legally say it's all been done publicly.
Thanks for sharing!
I've spent the last few years on the internet unsure about why this was happening. There were all of these threads, like the Japanese visit to VISA, that just made things more confusing.
This is the first video I've seen that tied everything together. Thank you so much for talking about this! I'll follow the breadcrumbs on your Patreon, and I hope a major journalist/channel covers this soon!
Thanks!
This is unexpectedly good info wow
Thanks!
Ok, a shout out for the Game Theory reference at the end there. Couldn't agree more - forget algebra and geometry - the two seemingly esoteric fields of math and logic that absolutely should be taught to every student from grade school on are Game Theory and Probability. These two form the basis of so much of our society and economy, and whether you realize it or not, they shape the lives of every person, every day.
We were trying to be as positive as we could about a really unfortunate situation.
Specially probability. People have an iherent understanding of game theory to a degree but probability is extremely unintuitive.
@@cacaculo-fp2ko People do seem to have a slightly more intuitive grasp of game theory - necessary because it underpins a lot of human social interaction - but one thing I've noticed is that most people have an inherent bias towards either viewing the world in zero-sum competitive terms or positive-sum cooperative terms, and the people in either camp can be difficult to convince that the other viewpoint or condition is viable - or even exists. It seems to be something of a core personality trait in many people and a deeper understanding of how those systems really work might help people break out of those.
not familiar with your work so i wasn't sure what to expect when i clicked on this but this is very informative! excellent job
Thanks and welcome!
This was absolutely fascinating & unexpectedly comprehensive. Just brilliant. 💯
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Amazing content!
How you manage to make this serious subject both deep and fun... congratulations.
(and thanks for the research time spent, too ;-) )
Thanks! I appreciate that!
Thanks for shedding some light on this. I don't know if it's better learning how fucked the process is, but at least there's some silver lining in knowing others are as equally baffled by it all. There's nothing worse during the creative process than trying to cater to non-defined rules that change on case-by-case basis.
Sadly I expect the changes to continue. We're losing more and more flavors as time goes by.
Mastercard: I am changing the deal. Pray I won't further change it.
@@Noperare
"Cool... Then I'm dropping the deal. No need to be worthless in front of me. Mankind is the payment after all. And all are on the table to wager."
This is very, very informative and is helping me work out the safest way for me to make my art. Great work!
Thanks and good luck!
Dude. This is so good and informative! I would love to see this as a podcast episode so I can listen at work. Awesome stuff.
It is! Look for Shame Free Gaming on Spotify.
Inb4 Dad gets cancelled.
Seriously, though, great vid. Hate that so many devs have to deal with these silly restrictions. These games are art and they deserve all the patronage the market wants to give them.
He is the heel of this production!
Great video! Thanks for the deep dive. Look forward to seeing more of your stuff!
Thanks!
This is why we need alternative payment system.
I trust that those in power would work quickly to restore their hold.
This is the first time I've sat through the entirety of one of your videos. Not all of your content is for me, so I'm not sure if I'll sub. But you peeked into a dark rabbit hole that you might never get out of if you fall in. Thanks for your interview.
My pleasure! I think many people have your opinion and I think it is a fair one.
15:55 Came for the lewd games, stayed for the economic lessons about how banks operate
Welcome!
Just a curiosity point, here in Brazil we have a payment method called PIX created by the goverment and supported by all banking institutions operating in the country, it allow direct transfer of money in seconds, open any bank app, scan a QR code and done, the payment is made, many stores and companies use it as an alternative to stay away from the credit card fees.
If a global version of this was avaliable, there would be no moderation of private companies based on arbitrary values, the access would only be prevented if the bank account where fronzen by judical order of the goverment.
I think any system is going to be vulnerable to exploitation by the powerful. The best chance of a better world is to help create a more informed and engaged "body politic".
"by the government" and being free from arbitrary unjust decisions are mutually exclusive
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh
Unless the government squabbles with itself nearly constantly. Which is par for the course there
(Before watching the video and will apply an edit at the end if different/new info pops up)
As far as I'm aware, there have been large payment processors and banks who have gone out of their way to block certain companies and websites from using their services if they sell certain kinds of products and services, usually related to art and sexual content.
This is to say that they don't block their services use for any kind of art or sexual content, but anything that they generally disagree with (ie. More riske and niche content not consumed by general consumers and sometimes content seen as legal but morally skewed). As far as I'm aware, 99.9999% of the time, regardless of how you may view the content, the content has been legal and consumed by consenting adults.
(I have also heard heresay of implementing stops to other products of more political bent, but I have not seen this occur, nor has proof of such been forthcoming)
Regardless, it is my belief that if a service or product is legal, these payment processors shouldn't have the power to stop these transactions from taking place, nor is it their place to be moral arbiters of such. We have the law and our own morals to police our actions, we don't need companies to step in and essentially threaten us to fall in line.
Edit: So, WTF! They treat everyone like RUclips treats its content creators? This is getting more and more F'd as I learn about it...
Sorry! Thanks for sharing though!
@@SexPositiveGamingNothing to say sorry about, just kinda frustrated that companies and individuals are more and more frequently policing others based on their own ideals and trying to force them on others. This is annoying but manageable for the most part when talking about such entities that don't have much power over you except to try and convince you or limit their own products and services to such things. Easily ignored, but becoming insanely common, especially in the videogaming space.
An organization or company that has power on par with a government in their ability to influence others, like being able to threaten your livelihood on a whim, is terrifying. I've heard reports of whole businesses having to restructure simply because payment processors threatened to remove their ability to accept payments. Not that I participate in their service, but awhile back I heard that Only Fans almost changed their whole site because of payment processors were threatening them (ie. Remove all adult content). This would have ruined their business completely. Unsure how they kept going (probably introduced stricter guidelines), but they did withdraw their inital plans due to customer and employee backlash.
@@net_spider
As expected from the Left Hand of Kings. This is normal. It only makes the finality all the more sweeter to me. The end of Mankind.
I would rather not enjoy that Fate but only indifference remains now. Amusing of humans.
Amazing work and such important information!!!
Visa and mastercard should have used the layers to have ignorance not punishment. This is ridiculous!!!!
I feel bad for the game developers.
You guys should also look into the Financial Times' investigative podcast on this topic, called "Hot Money" by Patricia Nilsson and Alex Barker. Honestly I hate that it's in podcast format, and it starts off kind of slow, but it was really eye-opening in clarifying the current DLSite situation and all. They go kind of deeper into the general history of how online adult sites work and how they make money (or not).
Thanks for the recommendation!
As a cash register person thank you for shedding light on my condition. Not many people know what it's like to have a cash register for genitalia. ❤️
I'm so embarrassed! Sorry!
"This is your best podcast yet." --Former Cash Register Person
I feel so bad about that. Sorry!
Great video. Hope this sparks some investigative journalists' imagination
That would be amazing!
1:23 didnt expect to see seeds of chaos flash up in a video about payment processes today. But here we are.
They fear the Minotaur!
I think the change over the last half-decade has been pretty interesting to watch. The standard for US law, which for the financial industry means global standards, is that corporations can chose what they can and can’t do business with. They’re allowed to not take your money. They’re allowed to refuse to host your content. It’s only the government who are forbidden from this kind of viewpoint discrimination, and it’s at the highest legal levels of scrutiny. But very recently we’ve seen this idea that corporations should also be bound by speech laws, that they shouldn’t discriminate based on content. But at the same time… I’ll bet dollars to donuts the people you dug up as being in charge of the Visa/Mastercard investigation system? They make political donations to only a certain political party. A party that is very much pro-viewpoint discrimination… while saying corporations should also be subject to free speech laws.
Most of the people at the top donate to both as a way to hedge their bets and stay in power. We only hear about the few who do take a side, because it is so uncommon and it helps perpetuate a narrative that helps keep the general population divided against each other.
Thanks for the discussion. Thanks for editing the visuals so it was easier to listen to.
Can you list the games that you were showing in the video? Thank you.
Thanks! All links can be found through the link in the description.
26:50 I think one aspect of that that you haven't talked about yet is the wording of "...issued instructions to restrict transactions using specific terms." I think the phrasing of "specific terms" is important here. If the instructions are "anything that damages the brand" then they are not "using specific terms"
"Specific Terms" can be "Brand Damaging", but more than just "Specific Terms" can also be "Brand Damaging". Hence Seeds of Chaos' bovine troubles.
And now, I'm annoyed because I just passed that bit where I could have made Alexia do Greymane. I'm not normally a fan of stuff like that, but if Mastercard told me I can't, then by golly, I can learn to like it.
In life sometimes you gotta take the bull by the horns!
Is this currently enacted in the steam version? Ive noticed there has been a sudden pause on Greymane interactions after getting drunk with him and having Alexia meet him outside.
@@aklokoth Wait, even if you make Alexia make moves on Greymane, they don't?!
Interesting Topic and nice video!
I wish you would include the names or if YT doesnt allow that, at least SOME way for us viewers to know what games you are showing footage of, there've been many times now where I saw something in your videos that looked like it could interest me, but no way of figuring out what game that is, besides asking in the comments and hoping someone knows and tells me.
Everything is listed for free on my Patreon. I wish there was a better way to do this. Sorry!
@@SexPositiveGaming Good to know, I'll check it out! Thanks!
Great video, thanks for sharing! Only thing I disagree with was actually about the comments about the Play Nice book...Jason Schreier makes it pretty clear how it all goes down without needing to have to explicitly tell you conclusions that the other speaker stated here. Hell, when introducing Kotick in the book he quotes a pretty damning line that sets the tone for the buyout later on with "The goal I had [...] was to take all the fun out of making video games." And that even isn't going into the later chapters on how Kotick is constantly breathing down their necks and forces them to hire a CFO that changes their financial structure to more anti-consumer practices, causing a huge shift in the company. The book also highlights pushback from the execs to try and keep Kotick out of their culture and processes so they can maintain their brand and quality.
If you feel like the book was implying that the execs were either not doing enough or were complicit...well, it's because they were. They definitely enjoyed Blizzard successes and kept money at the top, and their decisions still ultimately shaped Blizzard to what it is today. I dunno, feels like we read different books here.
Thanks for sharing!
"You shall only consume approved safe horny from the offical list, any deviance will be punishable by negative social credit."
Lol
Sign me up!
This sort of interference is why the push to adopt a digital economy should be resisted. Keep using cash wherever possible.
I'm not sure how viable that is, but good luck!
Crypto is the obvious answer... Just a matter of which one and how long before the Tech congeala
@@nicholasgerry6169 the problem with crypto is the same problem with NFT. Scammer destroyed the entire ecosystem so bad, that any crypto will always be FUD.
To be specific. Cash that can back digital currency. Not some fake money that can be erased so easily by the whims of corporate and organized coalitions.
As dangerous as government expansion is I see no way out of this without implementing common carrier type laws for payment processors and everything along that whole chain or straight up nationalizing the entire thing.
It is a mess.
@@SexPositiveGaming
It is actually, rather simple. But even though all these human issues are outdated to me. Observing mankind is much more entertaining than intervening myself. For better or worst by humanity since their existence.
So you're telling me american corporations behave like supranational governments, including enacting their own laws and policies?
I am shocked! Shocked I say!
Sorry!
They've tried doing the same thing with firearms before too. Some banks have also tried this... It did not go over well.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video! Thank you for covering this. One request for future videos, could you put in an overlay of the name of the game being played?
Given that every game I used had been banned or censored because of what I was talking about, I was honestly afraid to. I did, however, put the list on Patreon for everyone to be able to access.
I learned about this when OF became a thing and a bunch of adult creators explained similar things happening where their Paypal accounts would just disappear and such.
It is perilous for people in this industry!
Ken Akamatsu really went from writing harem Manga to defending it as a Japanese legislator XD
We need more gamers and artists in office!
I have some questions about some things said in the video.
- It was not 100% clear if it's JP Morgan's policy to not explain the reason for termination or if it's the payment providers rules? I assume the later and it's not just JP Morgan being one of the few who has it mentioned explicitly,
- Can and do acquirers have multiple monitors or do they always just have one?
- If a monitor works for 2 different acquirers and they discover for one of them that a merchant is breaking the rules would they also inform the other?
1) That seems to be the policy of every acquirer to some degree. This process appears to be intentionally murky as a feature.
2) Yes and the larger acquirers will use internal means alongside those "3rd parties".
3) Unlikely due to privacy and NDA reasons, but there seems to be some evidence of emerging shared databases of (let's call them) "problematic brands" that effectively accomplish this.
Every adult content creator should just expect that they are on various watch lists. Both of a legal as well as a economic nature. I know I am and have actually faced "debanking" on multiple occasions given the substance of what I cover.
I never heard about this before, thank you for sharing this info
My pleasure!
I feel like the extremely obvious question to have asked when Visa blamed the other company was, “Why on earth do you care whether or not this so-called unrelated company approves of your transactions?”
I would have loved to have seen a transcript of the conversation.
classic case of big companies turning online spaces into the equivalent of an IKEA showroom to maximize profit and minimize the chances of reputation loss
also knowing about the sheer scale and the amount of influence Mastercard&Visa hold feels like facing an eldritch god
Wait until the people in charge unlock anti-aging technology and then they really will become eldritch abominations!
Wonderfully informative, thanks a bunch!
My pleasure!
Really liked this video, thank you for the information given.
My pleasure!
This is one of those things were stuff like NFTs have an actual use. More or less it's an intermediary medium of exchange for transactions that would be blocked otherwise. It just looks like overpriced random junk for those not in-the-know about the actual exchange purpose. (Basically somebody buys the "safe" thing in order to actually pay for the "not so safe" thing from the same seller. Thus a token or coupon type of system of circumvention.)
Circumventing things without state support is never going to be a viable long term solution.
Less NFTs, more crypto.
@@somdudewillson We're talking about tamer versions of digital art that's innocuous, thus being ignored by financial transaction services. In turn that has some code or watermark where it's purchase value can be exchanged for the more restricted material. Such a schema may be easier to setup by an artist or production studio than having to deal with varying exchange rates of some coin. So it's an in-house token or coupon service, which more or less follows the NFT shema to those unclear on exactly what it is intended for.
Can you add a list of all the games shown in the video? I noticed some like carnal instinct, but I want to know about the others because they looked interesting
Everything is listed by following the link in the description.
Glad to see another great deep dive.
Thanks!
Annie is about to have an accident like she is an engineering working at Boeing
I hope not!
Okay this is a must watch. 40 minutes tho and i gotta go out ill watch it for sure when i come back home
Have fun!
Would you consider making a more condensed video on this topic? A 40-minute podcast about such a heavy subject feels a bit long and everywhere, and I think the depth of your investigative work was somewhat diluted by the podcast format and interactions. Just a thought, don't take it the wrong way
I think that there are plenty of amazingly talented RUclipsrs that can do a much better job with this material. Thanks for the suggestion though!
I support creative freedom. It seems to me that thanks to these account-less monopolies, we'll be going back to sending cheques in the post soon enough, like people had to back in the 80's... so much for advancement.
I hope not!
Yeah this kind of stuff is what killed two of my games way back. There was no reasonable way to allow consenting adults who wanted to buy the games we wanted to make, which were honestly extremely vanilla - all because of the payment processors. To add insult, they were mobile games and as a separate issue Apple also forces their morals on everyone with an iPhone, you can't install any apps except through the store which is ridiculously ideologically restricted.
Sorry that you had such a hard time!
This was very eye opening.
Thanks!
At this point I want Visa, Mastercard and banks not be responsible for illegal activity money if this means we are free to buy any stuff we want.
It sucks but it's a necessary price for freedom.
I'm not sure what the solution is, but I am sure that it can only happen with open conversation.
so in short a small group of people in most likely LA, CA, USA is deciding what is and isn't allowed to go through Visa and Mastercard on a global scale. That sounds like a bad thing. The fix that most likely will not happen but would be for the best for the nation is to have a government run credit card so it has to only obey the rules of the government not of some private company. Yes like everything it will in time get rules not everyone agrees with but if enough governments do this then the stranglehold the 2 global companies of VISA and Mastercard will stop being a stranglehold on the world economic system.
The down side is it will cost more at the start as the set up will cost money then unless they make a rule that to do business in their country they have to accept the government run system not just VISA and Mastercard AND have issued every citizen a card for free with no fee per month nor any fee per year to the country's citizen i do not see any of them taking off.
The situation is unfortunate.
they are a private business and they'll do whatever benefits them
The irony of carnal obsessed people restricting other people's carnal hobby does not fly over my head.
It really boils my pi... err, 'yellow soda' that the American Morality police of Mastercard and Visa denies other people selling erotic/lewd art. I am reminded of a picture of 2 people and the Mastercard logo:
Human 01: I like making erotic art and selling it
Human 02: I like erotic art and buying it
Mastercard: Well I don't! Fuck you!
My memory might not be entirely perfect on that one...
Thank you for the video, it was very informative! I really hope things will change Over There🙂
Sadly this is no longer just an American issue. It is now a "all humans on the internet issue"
The person making the risque art needs to make tame art that Mastercard has no qualms with. This in turn is readily exchanged for the other content outside of the picture of the first transaction.
Regarding cultural differences and censorship... imagine, if you will, a world where VISA/MasterCard et al. censored violence instead of sex. Not only would that be aguably a healthier set of "morals" but how would that impact the current market for entertainment and services? Which people would be up in arms then?
I think open conversation is a good first step.
Concerning video.
BTW what games are shown in background? I would like to look into them.
All of the games are listed for free on my Patreon, because RUclips hates me. Sorry!
They're not going to change anything until it *really* hurts the bottom line. Then they'll bend forwards and bare their cheeks like they always do. And, in the end, it will all be worse anyways
It is an unfortunate situation.
Russia and other "rogue states" have been eluding sanctions by transacting in gold, Bitcoin, and crypto. Already seen one site accepting Bitcoin as compensation. Merchants and artists may need to consider alternative payments to stay in business.
Bypassing regulations sounds like a quick path to prison.
But this, among other examples, explains why it’s still so popular as an alternative to “banks”.
@@SexPositiveGaming I want to believe there are other choices for artists besides prison or poverty just because of artistic freedom.
@@hamsterjohn there are no other ways. we need to fight for our freedom and we need to be radical about protecting our freedom.
I represent the American Minotaur Association and my client here says that he was wronged by these credit card companies. He adamantly defends his performance in the game and although was paid, demands restitution. He's asking for 3.4 million dollars in coins and two-hundred and thirty thousand pounds of various meats. He says and I quote, "I can't help what I was given." We're still awaiting trial.
Hopefully your client will not cower in the face of adversity.
I initially assumed we were the Merchant’s as well 😂
We're not nearly important enough!
Videos like this just remind me of how many of these games ive played
Hopefully you had fun!
@@SexPositiveGaming Maybe i could have if i hadnt also failed 3 Risk of Rain runs in the time it took to listen to the video...
I hate that companies like mastercard have this much control over us.
Sorry!
You know the irony...Strinova a newly released hero shot was just released in English and just right off the bat has much better character designs, in fact, their pose and design can pretty much give you a good clue about what their role is, for example, Ming has this bold type of pose and her design highlights that bold personality trait which fits her gameplay as her skills favours aggressive and is a master in 1v1. I could say more about Strinova character designs but I think another reason Concord bombed is that... it has a price tag and isn't unique, Strinova is a shoot sure but the ability to go 2d at any time is super unique and opens a whole can to new movement options and ability to dodge incoming bullets while you reload.
I can't wait until bots can positively contribute to narratives they insert themselves into.
@@SexPositiveGaming _Theoretically_ they probably can already... it would just require bot makers to expend meaningful resources on each bot. :P
(Although such a bot _could_ end up being largely indistinguishable from a human commenter, so maybe they're already here and we just don't notice them.)
Three points and a question: 1) Bitcoin payments are borderline unstoppable, and involve absolutely none of this payment processor BS. 2) Nostr cannot censor users whatsoever; there is no ability to stop any content creator from interacting and being funded in that ecosystem, and several already are. 3) If bitcoin were adopted by S creators, all those creators would be financially unstoppable. My question: WHY do creators keep hoping they get permission when they could just WIN instead?
The powerful will always try to retain power.
Mostly because you can't _spend_ crypto on a whole lot yet.
A lot of people don't trust crypto and see it as a sketchy get-rich-quick scheme.
@@stevendobbins2826 And those people are right, IF they separate bitcoin from crypto. Crypto is a greater enemy of bitcoin adoption than banks.
Because crypto is gambling and could go bankrupt overnight because of someone making an angry tweet about crypto.
Haggs trying to outlaw their competition...
Not sure what that means, sorry!
I wonder if BRICS' own upcoming payment system could fix this problem. No idea if it's even similar to this.
I think that the powerful are most incentivized to find ways to maintain power.
Considering the biggest players in BRICS it's going to be as bad at best, probably worse.
has the patreon version of seeds of chaos only been affected or did the steam version get censored too?
Not as of yet, but all of the Mind Control censorship and rewrites eventually did show up in the Steam version. This is such a nightmare for developers.
I'm sorry, did I miss where you said what we can do about this? You said you would, but I didn't catch it in the video.
I talk about it at the end, but this was more about creating an open conversation. I understand if people feel that is not good enough on my part.
Only when people are backed into a corner, will you see any action be done. Unfortunately, I've watched the world and seen how far things have to go before anybody even does anything...seriously, just look at people FINALLY saying something about all the garbage media we've had lately...It took a whole decade for them to even acknowledge the issues at hand within entertainment. I mean, I'm proud of them, it's progress, but it took so damn long. How much longer is it going to take for them to get even that much further? You know?
With that said, I still have hope, and I know hope is naive, but it's also powerful. I have to believe that one day, people will figure this all out.
I hope so!
The same are gonna be said about AI content in at least the next 10 years when 90% of the internet are visibly AI generated. The realization is always late, hindsight is always 20/20.
@@varnix1006 Isn't that always the case lol I mean to some, it's not hindsight, but to many, it usually is.
@@varnix1006 That's assuming that only the prevalence of AI content increases, and the underlying technology magically stops progressing.
Always the same scenario where Morals bully Logic, even though the morals stand on Implication not reality. (aka Fault tolerance, can be fixed/del etc)
We know why they target japan first, cough their creativity really massive.
I do feel indie game really got much much cleaner and advance, which also the reason they limit indie devs creativity. Always start with common rule, uncommon, then become niche rule and suddenly tyrant rules.
I'm just hoping that I can help more people better understand how this process works.
Seeing vid of Charm Song and im like "I still need to play that"
It is a fun game!
hey annie i found in 2 different discords a post from outlet media news about banks in japan blocking steam payments for adult games developed in japan this last week , do you know anything new about this?
Yeah. I'm gonna bring it up in the next podcast later this week.
hey, just wanted to ask if there is a list or anything on what games the footage comes from? especially in the intro part it switched between a bunch of them very quickly
Yes! Everything can be found by following the link in the description. Have fun!
@@SexPositiveGamingoh damn, didnt realise, thank you!
That seeds of chaos censorship hurts, ive been a patron for many years, did the censorship also effect the steam version?
We'll have to see. The "mind control" related changes impacted Steam eventually.
It didn't. Steam is unaffected. You can also choose to migrate to subscribestar
Fun side talk at the beginning lol
I try to keep a balance in the podcasts. Especially how dry some of the topics can be.
Can you list all the games you're showcasing in this video, especially the one where the girl turns her arms into wings and flies around.
The whole list can be found on the patreon link. It is free and doesn't require an account.
always makes me a bit worried that how much power Visa and like wise have over our everyday life.
makes me want deregulation of currency as it can be manipulated against people, which can always be used by large groups to serve their agenda.
I think an important first step is people being able to talk openly about the issue.
More information would be deeply appreciated, if, when, and as you feel comfortable finding it and sharing it.
I shared everything that I have that is public on the Patreon page if you want to check it all out.
Can you recommend any games like Star Knightess Aura? I played the demo and kind of loved it.
It really depends on which flavors you like.
I played that awhile back, been keeping an eye on it until I get a working PC again.
What are the games in the thumbnail? The red girl one seems like I've seen her design before, but can't remember where
Seeds of Chaos
32:08 I'd be furious. Imagine if Japan was like, "Hey USA. We no longer allow anyone to buy, sell, or trade Toyota or Nissan vehicles in your country." I'd be stuck driving my Titan until the engine blows up, and that's already happened once.
It is an untenable situation.
Great stuff as always! Out of curiosity, what game is that at 4:04?
Monolith Bay
@@SexPositiveGaming Great thank you so much!