Joe, I get asked almost every video to scan minis. If you get a chance...PLEASE try scanning a mini print and let us know how it goes! I have a feeling I know where this will go, but I'd love to just see how the scanner does and your thoughts. Great video - thanks for sharing!
I actually do 3D metrology scanning day in and day out. I use GOM, Steinbichler, FARO so I'm no stranger to 3D scanning so a little tip, the foot power......no,? Your losing shape with to much caked on foot powder which is rounding your edge length on your triangulation of your mesh. find yourself a airbrush kit from harbor freight, some 99% Alcohol and .05 micro aluminum oxcide (99% pure) 1 - 1/4tsp of Aluminum Oxcide 1 - 3/4oz of 99% Alcohol and shake, shake shake (saturate thoroughly) Put a thin layer evenly over the part just to remove any reflective area Note if you mix it in a larger amount the aluminum oxcide saturates better. Scan Dimension, I would love to give your scanner a test run, I'm in the market to purchase a desktop scanner for my personal use and actually till I saw some reviews about your scanner I have my eye on the NextEngine 3D Scanner.
@@elhfay4563 Hi Geoff, we would love you as a client and to try out our 3D scanner. Visit our website ScanDimension.com/Support fill-out the contact form for more information.
In the video @ 10:30 it shows it scanning. Is that part of the video speeded up or is that how fast the scanner works. Also, do you have a time this scanner takes to do 1 pass? thanks
@@3dpprofessor I just bought it and have to have it replaced. Takes 36 minutes for 1 scan. Web page says about 20 minutes....lol...Horrible scan on everything even 3 pass. They think it is scanner bad. At least there working on it. Do you know anything on USB formats. I have 2.0, 3.0, 3.1....I saw no difference. And was wondering. In the kit the camera USB is 2.0 plug on the turntable it looks like 1.0....lol....Black plug is 2.0, White plug is 1.0? How can it transfer at 3.0? Do you think I should upgrade the cables to 3.0 Blue? Thanks....The first scan was fantastic, all others down the tubes.
Loved your video, sense of humor, analytic mind, and love of your work and teaching. Have lots of questions for a later time, the first of which is do you scan things for others?
Very interesting as I explore the subject of 3D scanning and color 3D printing. You are definitely a weirdo, but in my kind of way LOL...... So I subscribed!
Question. You didn't show any scans with a higher detail level or multiple angles. Say a miniature is something similar. How did it scan when taking the time to do something more than 1pass?
@@3dpprofessor Thank you for the videos! I appreciate you sending me the link . So what I get out of this is there is no cost friendly solution to scanning anything of detail at this point. My goal is simple. Buy something that I like (figurine), scan it with enough detail so I can 3D print it, and give it to my friends and family. Seems like the tech is just not there yet. My objects are even more detailed than the soldier and duck. Not getting those details out of a scan would be a game changer. You saved me $600 and a ton of chest pain. I appreciate it.
Great review! I‘ve watched the video using earphones. The volume and sound quality is very inconsistent. But other than that the video is brilliant. I love your special sense of humor. Keep up the great work!
Yeah, I'm gonna spend some chibimal money to upgrade my audio rig. For some reason I keep p-popping my lav mic so I had to use the R0de mic attached to my camera and that does a weird thing where when I'm quiet for a sec, like before I start a new scene it turns up the ambient noise in the room until it can normalize on my voice a few seconds after I start talking. I didn't realize this until I started editing.
@@3dpprofessor your camera and not the mike may be doing that! My canon did and was annoying me enough to where I turned off noise leveling (or whatever the hell they called it in the menu). Volume level can always be raised or lowered in editing so I saw no point for it except during outdoor shoots or gymnasium shoots where it was useful.
I have no idea how this laser work so quick question, instead of the 3D printer what ads stuff can make usable files for a laser cutter or a CNC machine to carve into the material. Sounds silly but I actually want to scan ostrich eggs to carve....well Africa so is the cheapest material....definitely cheaper than acrylic.
I would think that you'd want to use a spinner to keep the egg shell more or less the same distance from the laser. For laser cutters focus is very important.
Hello I watch your video and fell in love with the scanner, so i got my self one. now here is my question. when I scan the duck or other stuff, it does not lay flat on the bed in Cora. am I doing anything wrong. please help. tks
Scan orientation, especially when taking scans from different directions to get all sides, can result in "down" being confused. Fortunately, Cura has a rotate and lay flat option.
Excellent question that I am trying very hard to answer in a video. But it's... hard. See, photogrametry is theoretically amazing. Theoretically you could photography anything, from a landscape taken from an airplane to images take from a microscope, and the software doesn't care. But that's a double edged sword because without extra work you get no scale reference for a photogrametry scan. And in my experience, photogrametry relies heavily on the texturing to look like the thing it's trying to look like, and if the pure geometry is analyzed it kinda sucks. Okay for video games. Not so good for 3D printing. That, and for small things focus is a pain. Laser line assisted scanning (I say assisted because it is just a series of pictures as well) is better, and it gets more of the details. Not all of the details, but more of them. And it comes with scale. But laser line scanners tend to be limited. You can't scan anything bigger than it can scan. So, for my experience, the laser line scanners have more plusses than minuses, but neither is perfect. Aaand, I think I just wrote the script for that video.
Awesome! 3d scanner in the title is always click bait for me. I've been waiting for a good sub $1K scanner to come along and I've always been let down. The SOL looks like a winner for me. Keep up the good work.
You mean the video of it, or what happened with my setting it up. The video was set to private. It was a test and while successful, I decided to take it down for various technical reasons. Not sure that's the sort of content I want on this channel. Maybe I'll make another channel for that sort of thing. As far as the rig, my laptops video card was just below the specs for it, so it refused to connect. Bummer. Looking at other options.
Absolutely. In fact I've got a video that I'm goign to put out as soon as I can about this scanner and the answer is still the same. It's the easiest scanner I've used at a great price.
@@3dpprofessor could you make a video on how to improve scans using this for example maybe painting shinny objects...advanced tricks to make better scans. Would love to see a video comparing the scans with this scanner vs agisoft software. Would love to see the different results
@@davidvalens3337 Have you used Agisoft? Actually, I'd probably use Meshroom, but I've been working on that for a while. Well, I say working, but I mean thinking about working. I should get actually working on that.
Scanners are great but I’m not sure any of the cheaper options are useful, yet. I have a scannect and although you can get some scans it takes hours and hours of cleanup work before a model appears that it worth printing. As you mention, useful and easy software solutions for these scanners just have not been developed.
This is, by far, the closes I've seen to bridging that gap between affordability and usability. I also have a Kinect running scannect, and I agree, the results from it are muddy. I didn't mention photogrametry, which is always an option but lacks the context of scale and I want a measuring device. But I suppose it's just a question of what you want.
huh looks like there is a lost of progress being made but it is still way too early to get into scanning , camera sensors and lasers are getting much more advanced and much cheaper all the time , maybe in another couple of years we will be able to pick up a better scanner than the sol for a couple hundred bucks, cell phones are really driving the evolution of camera sensors hard and the old model sensors are constantly being dumped a cheap prices so I could see the Chinese cloning these things in future making the idea of the DRM not so ridiculous (though I am totally against DRM) I mean I can imagine someone going to Shenzhen commissioning a clone of one of these things without too much difficulty if they are able to use the existing software
You mean scan it, print it, scan the print, and so on? Because I don't know of a scanner and printer combination (and keep in mind it's both you're testing with this exercise) that wouldn't suffer major degradation over several iterations. It's an interesting art piece, but to many variables to be a useful test. Still, could be a lot of fun. I'll try it out.
You didn't do a complete job. The single pass gives you one thing but what do they recommend? Wish I had $600 and I would do a complete review. Just looked at their site and now they are $699. Damn you forgot to mention that your computer needs to have USB 3.0, so I got mine and now I have to send it back. Big Thumbs down.
"A great experience"? Nonsense. You were right on with "absolutely terrible". The SOL scanner takes hours to create laughably poor quality scans. Even at the highest quality, all the sharp edges and fine detail are indistinct and melted away. That's why SOL's demo is an all-yellow rubber toy, an object with no sharp edges and no surface detail. No other 3D scanner uses such a pathetic object for their demo. The fastest scan at the highest quality takes nearly three hours! It always produces gigantic file sizes and yet are muddy and inaccurate. The goofy software crashes often, and all your multiple scans and hours of constant babysitting go POOF! There are half a dozen free software titles (like OpenScan) that actually produce sharp, high quality scans in far less time than this SOL junk..
No NO NO Cannot recommend this device. In use for last 4 days.....dissapointing. Lot of problem with software - many errors - or problems with communication or with laser andle or connection to turntable gone or ....... To run - need to contact with server outside - why ? What kind of data are sent outside of user computer ? If You use Cura or 3D printer software - you will have a lot of COM conflict to solve. Good toy, nothing more for now.
10 reasons why not to buy SOL 3D Scanner - slow proces - don't be fooled with adv films - they are timelapse - confict with other USB equipment (COM port conflicts) - need two USB ports (with high power) instead one USB and Power Supply - two different USB plugs - why !! - short cables - problematic startup - software quit if scanner is not detected - privacy problems - software cannot run without Internet - what data are sent and what for ? - many errors during work "cannot detect USB camera, turntable problem, laser position..........dozens ot them) - disconnecting (or turning off) any other USB devices (using other COM's) will stop scanning proces, create warning and shut the program !!!!
Nice review! I've been looking at the Sol Scanner with interest so it was good to see a review of it
Joe, I get asked almost every video to scan minis. If you get a chance...PLEASE try scanning a mini print and let us know how it goes! I have a feeling I know where this will go, but I'd love to just see how the scanner does and your thoughts. Great video - thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your candid review of our scanner.
Thank you for the best 3D scanning experience I've ever had.
You guys made a great scanner, well done!
I actually do 3D metrology scanning day in and day out. I use GOM, Steinbichler, FARO so I'm no stranger to 3D scanning so a little tip, the foot power......no,? Your losing shape with to much caked on foot powder which is rounding your edge length on your triangulation of your mesh. find yourself a airbrush kit from harbor freight, some 99% Alcohol and .05 micro aluminum oxcide (99% pure)
1 - 1/4tsp of Aluminum Oxcide
1 - 3/4oz of 99% Alcohol and shake, shake shake (saturate thoroughly)
Put a thin layer evenly over the part just to remove any reflective area
Note if you mix it in a larger amount the aluminum oxcide saturates better.
Scan Dimension, I would love to give your scanner a test run, I'm in the market to purchase a desktop scanner for my personal use and actually till I saw some reviews about your scanner I have my eye on the NextEngine 3D Scanner.
@@elhfay4563 Hi Geoff, we would love you as a client and to try out our 3D scanner. Visit our website ScanDimension.com/Support fill-out the contact form for more information.
This is a very helpful and informative video. Very much appreciated!
but is not truth - quality and speed is terrible
In the video @ 10:30 it shows it scanning. Is that part of the video speeded up or is that how fast the scanner works. Also, do you have a time this scanner takes to do 1 pass? thanks
Yes, it's sped up for the video. The scan is slow. But, good things take time.
@@3dpprofessor I just bought it and have to have it replaced. Takes 36 minutes for 1 scan. Web page says about 20 minutes....lol...Horrible scan on everything even 3 pass. They think it is scanner bad. At least there working on it. Do you know anything on USB formats. I have 2.0, 3.0, 3.1....I saw no difference. And was wondering. In the kit the camera USB is 2.0 plug on the turntable it looks like 1.0....lol....Black plug is 2.0, White plug is 1.0? How can it transfer at 3.0? Do you think I should upgrade the cables to 3.0 Blue? Thanks....The first scan was fantastic, all others down the tubes.
I want to scan pc mouse bases do you think it would be able to pick up this detail or would the einscan se be better? Or even a DSLR ?
Loved your video, sense of humor, analytic mind, and love of your work and teaching. Have lots of questions for a later time, the first of which is do you scan things for others?
Sadly, I have to close my commission options or I don't get any videos done.
Do you think this 3d scanner is able to scan a bicycle key? Or anyother key ? It needs to be precise
Yes, it should do fine. I should try that, though. Could be fun.
I also have the sol scanner why is the scans not working coming out really bad not even close to what I'm scanning
Very interesting as I explore the subject of 3D scanning and color 3D printing. You are definitely a weirdo, but in my kind of way LOL...... So I subscribed!
Question. You didn't show any scans with a higher detail level or multiple angles. Say a miniature is something similar. How did it scan when taking the time to do something more than 1pass?
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@@3dpprofessor Thank you for the videos! I appreciate you sending me the link . So what I get out of this is there is no cost friendly solution to scanning anything of detail at this point. My goal is simple. Buy something that I like (figurine), scan it with enough detail so I can 3D print it, and give it to my friends and family. Seems like the tech is just not there yet. My objects are even more detailed than the soldier and duck. Not getting those details out of a scan would be a game changer. You saved me $600 and a ton of chest pain. I appreciate it.
Very cool review.... I'm really diggin' the Dwight Schrute uniform your sporting; mustard shirt, basic stripe tie... It's great! subscribed .. THNX
This scanner is used to scan dental models?
Probably not accurate enough for that.
Great review! I‘ve watched the video using earphones. The volume and sound quality is very inconsistent. But other than that the video is brilliant. I love your special sense of humor. Keep up the great work!
Yeah, I'm gonna spend some chibimal money to upgrade my audio rig. For some reason I keep p-popping my lav mic so I had to use the R0de mic attached to my camera and that does a weird thing where when I'm quiet for a sec, like before I start a new scene it turns up the ambient noise in the room until it can normalize on my voice a few seconds after I start talking. I didn't realize this until I started editing.
@@3dpprofessor your camera and not the mike may be doing that! My canon did and was annoying me enough to where I turned off noise leveling (or whatever the hell they called it in the menu). Volume level can always be raised or lowered in editing so I saw no point for it except during outdoor shoots or gymnasium shoots where it was useful.
I have no idea how this laser work so quick question, instead of the 3D printer what ads stuff can make usable files for a laser cutter or a CNC machine to carve into the material. Sounds silly but I actually want to scan ostrich eggs to carve....well Africa so is the cheapest material....definitely cheaper than acrylic.
I would think that you'd want to use a spinner to keep the egg shell more or less the same distance from the laser. For laser cutters focus is very important.
@@3dpprofessorThank you, just with the spinner wont work, the shell is not cylindrical, I need something to measure the oval shape somehow
Hello I watch your video and fell in love with the scanner, so i got my self one. now here is my question. when I scan the duck or other stuff, it does not lay flat on the bed in Cora. am I doing anything wrong. please help. tks
Scan orientation, especially when taking scans from different directions to get all sides, can result in "down" being confused. Fortunately, Cura has a rotate and lay flat option.
@@3dpprofessor thanks sir
But does it scan sol? Or do we have to cover the sun on foot powder first?
So which 3D scanning process is better, one using a laser to scan or one using a camera to take a lot of photos like the KS-3D scanner does?
Excellent question that I am trying very hard to answer in a video. But it's... hard.
See, photogrametry is theoretically amazing. Theoretically you could photography anything, from a landscape taken from an airplane to images take from a microscope, and the software doesn't care. But that's a double edged sword because without extra work you get no scale reference for a photogrametry scan. And in my experience, photogrametry relies heavily on the texturing to look like the thing it's trying to look like, and if the pure geometry is analyzed it kinda sucks. Okay for video games. Not so good for 3D printing. That, and for small things focus is a pain.
Laser line assisted scanning (I say assisted because it is just a series of pictures as well) is better, and it gets more of the details. Not all of the details, but more of them. And it comes with scale. But laser line scanners tend to be limited. You can't scan anything bigger than it can scan.
So, for my experience, the laser line scanners have more plusses than minuses, but neither is perfect.
Aaand, I think I just wrote the script for that video.
I already start to laugh at him and he hasn't even told much. Such funnnny man :D
How does it do color with a laser, does it have multiple lasers?
It has a camera.
Nice review but I think you should have tried multipass scanning at least once to see how much of an improvement it can make.
I have since, and it does do a better job, but it still doesn't manage to get into those creases. But I don't know of any scanner that does.
@@3dpprofessor thanks, I figured you would unless you had to return it too soon. Seems like one of the best solutions out there so far regardless.
3:14 Dose it scan souls :
Interesting scanner
Thanks for sharing :-)
Awesome! 3d scanner in the title is always click bait for me. I've been waiting for a good sub $1K scanner to come along and I've always been let down. The SOL looks like a winner for me. Keep up the good work.
Nice to scan toothpick
Not going to lie. I threw my Cyclops in the closet.
what happened to the occulus rift in 360?
You mean the video of it, or what happened with my setting it up.
The video was set to private. It was a test and while successful, I decided to take it down for various technical reasons. Not sure that's the sort of content I want on this channel. Maybe I'll make another channel for that sort of thing.
As far as the rig, my laptops video card was just below the specs for it, so it refused to connect. Bummer. Looking at other options.
@@3dpprofessor looking at the quest myself, not sure I want to do 360 in VR, blender or meshmixer maybe
I missed a scanning option that I've used before. www.3dpprofessor.com/2019/08/06/3d-scanning-with-the-600-sol-scanner-from-scan-dimensions/
Are you showcasing the 3D scanner or that sweet Blender 2.80 release build?! lol
Oh, Blender is getting its own feature soon, don't you worry.
would you recommend this in 2020?
Absolutely. In fact I've got a video that I'm goign to put out as soon as I can about this scanner and the answer is still the same. It's the easiest scanner I've used at a great price.
@@3dpprofessor could you make a video on how to improve scans using this for example maybe painting shinny objects...advanced tricks to make better scans. Would love to see a video comparing the scans with this scanner vs agisoft software. Would love to see the different results
@@davidvalens3337 Have you used Agisoft? Actually, I'd probably use Meshroom, but I've been working on that for a while. Well, I say working, but I mean thinking about working. I should get actually working on that.
@@3dpprofessor maybe the software has improved since you last used it
@@davidvalens3337 Since this video, surely. Since I updated it last week? Unlikely.
Scanners are great but I’m not sure any of the cheaper options are useful, yet. I have a scannect and although you can get some scans it takes hours and hours of cleanup work before a model appears that it worth printing. As you mention, useful and easy software solutions for these scanners just have not been developed.
This is, by far, the closes I've seen to bridging that gap between affordability and usability. I also have a Kinect running scannect, and I agree, the results from it are muddy.
I didn't mention photogrametry, which is always an option but lacks the context of scale and I want a measuring device. But I suppose it's just a question of what you want.
Thank you, plan on using this to sell my wife on the idea.
So I got one, thank you, your video sold her. Also the Foot powder spray - Genius!
huh looks like there is a lost of progress being made but it is still way too early to get into scanning ,
camera sensors and lasers are getting much more advanced and much cheaper all the time , maybe in another couple of years we will be able to pick up a better scanner than the sol for a couple hundred bucks, cell phones are really driving the evolution of camera sensors hard and the old model sensors are constantly being dumped a cheap prices so I could see the Chinese cloning these things in future
making the idea of the DRM not so ridiculous (though I am totally against DRM)
I mean I can imagine someone going to Shenzhen commissioning a clone of one of these things
without too much difficulty if they are able to use the existing software
Sol = Sun
Quite expensive caliper replacement. For 60$ would buy it, for 600$ I would expect the perfect scans. Thank you for a review.
Please scan something more complex than a monchromatic featureless toy.
Why does your recording have a background hum?
mmmmmmmmmmmmm
I am having some mic issues. Working fixing that this week.
Pretty disappointing. Seems better just to take pictures from multiple angles and add those pictures to CAD software.
A little more time intensive, but you can't complain it isn't what you wanted.
Hey stop Subliminal advertising, it;s against the law {
SOLblimial, you mean.
@@3dpprofessor Yes
Scan something complex multiple times, THEN review it. All you told us was how well it scans a near featureless orb with one pass. C’mon.
You mean scan it, print it, scan the print, and so on? Because I don't know of a scanner and printer combination (and keep in mind it's both you're testing with this exercise) that wouldn't suffer major degradation over several iterations. It's an interesting art piece, but to many variables to be a useful test.
Still, could be a lot of fun. I'll try it out.
You didn't do a complete job. The single pass gives you one thing but what do they recommend? Wish I had $600 and I would do a complete review. Just looked at their site and now they are $699. Damn you forgot to mention that your computer needs to have USB 3.0, so I got mine and now I have to send it back. Big Thumbs down.
"A great experience"? Nonsense. You were right on with "absolutely terrible". The SOL scanner takes hours to create laughably poor quality scans. Even at the highest quality, all the sharp edges and fine detail are indistinct and melted away. That's why SOL's demo is an all-yellow rubber toy, an object with no sharp edges and no surface detail. No other 3D scanner uses such a pathetic object for their demo. The fastest scan at the highest quality takes nearly three hours! It always produces gigantic file sizes and yet are muddy and inaccurate. The goofy software crashes often, and all your multiple scans and hours of constant babysitting go POOF! There are half a dozen free software titles (like OpenScan) that actually produce sharp, high quality scans in far less time than this SOL junk..
No NO NO
Cannot recommend this device. In use for last 4 days.....dissapointing.
Lot of problem with software - many errors - or problems with communication or with laser andle or connection to turntable gone or .......
To run - need to contact with server outside - why ? What kind of data are sent outside of user computer ?
If You use Cura or 3D printer software - you will have a lot of COM conflict to solve.
Good toy, nothing more for now.
10 reasons why not to buy SOL 3D Scanner
- slow proces - don't be fooled with adv films - they are timelapse
- confict with other USB equipment (COM port conflicts)
- need two USB ports (with high power) instead one USB and Power Supply
- two different USB plugs - why !!
- short cables
- problematic startup - software quit if scanner is not detected
- privacy problems - software cannot run without Internet - what data are sent and what for ?
- many errors during work "cannot detect USB camera, turntable problem, laser position..........dozens ot them)
- disconnecting (or turning off) any other USB devices (using other COM's) will stop scanning proces, create warning and shut the program !!!!