The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is a perfect example of to mess up a trailer this bad where the scenes they show are actually deleted scenes, scenes are actually reshoots, or basically spoils everything such as the final shot of the film where Spider-Man takes down Rhino for the first time and I hate it because of it.
The Godzilla movie that had Brian Cranston in it is probably the best example of false advertisement. I was so mad when I saw that movie he still had the momentum from Breaking Bad and they used him for no more than 10 minutes
Such a weird opinion to have. The whole point of a trailer is give you the sense of the film, and what you're getting before buying your ticket. This trailer completed that goal, and has save surprises for the film, not everyone follows the Toby/Andrew leaks like us, so they have no clue, think about how shocked they'll be. These edits are actually taking away from the trailer as well, not adding elements that're not going to be in the movie (which would be closer to false advertising). This makes the movie experience better, why would anyone complain about this?
Im curious at what you know? Seriously do you work at Sony or Marvel? Where's the evidence of Tobey and Andrew been in it other than pure theories and wild fan guessing.
@@JonytobiUchiha did you even watch the video? Or been on the internet? John literally mentions that one shot where the lizard is apparently punched by an invisible force, someone was very obviously digitally removed from the shot, are you blind?
I think one of the times where it was actually bad and not a pleasant surprise was Predators movie and the shot where Adrien Brody was about to be attacked by like a dozen plus Predator lasers but in the movie it only turned out to be one, when that was the main shot that made me go see it in theaters because I wanted to see how he would get out of that one. It made what already isn't a great movie overall turn out to be even worse for me as a viewer, so stuff like that can backfire on you and in my opinion, THAT situation should be considered false advertisement imho.
It's all about hype. The moment they confirm Tobey and Andrew are in, the hype will die down. They need people to keep talking about the movie as much as possible until release date. I assume they will reveal them like a week before 12/17/21. I don't think at all that it was false advertisement because fans have been theorizing from leaks only.
@@JonytobiUchiha Hey, up to you to believe whatever you want. But Disney phone called John Campea after the leaks telling him to take them down. It is truly stupid to call someone for a fake of something that does not exist in a movie, I suppose. But whatever.
@Zane Drake What evidence? Cause all everyone has is pure theories. All of you will be so disappointed when the movie is out and they are not in it. This is a Tom Holland movie.
Godzilla 2014 - That trailer had me believe Bryan Cranston was the main character of a dark kaiju movie, where Godzilla was going to be centre stage and taken seriously like his 1954 and 1984 counterpart. Instead we got Aron Taylor Johnsen playing chase the M.U.T.O's. Godzilla felt like a tertiary character in its own movie, I'm so glad Godzilla: KotM and Godzilla vs Kong treated Godzilla and the other Kaiju as characters.
Yes but it made it all the more of a shock when Cranston was killed off. I thought it was a great twist. And are you saying Godzilla was worse than the sequels? KOTM was one of the worst films I have ever seen and GvK wasn’t much better.
If it's done to avoid spoilers I'm absolutely cool with it. But if not then not so much. I remember how hyped I was to see the beach run in Rogue One. In the trailers it looked like a sequence straight from a war movie and it was the scene I was looking forward to the most. I was extremely disappointed when it was not in the movie and I did feel like I was sold a false product.
@@deathsdoor07 I don't think so. The beach run is probably from an earlier version of the film where some characters survive. Then they decided to kill everyone off and the beach scene was cut out. That's what I heard at least.
I think that companies altering scenes in a trailer in order to keep something a secret is okay. However, what I don’t agree with, like John talks about, is when companies completely market the movie as something it’s not. To this day, one of the worst movies I’ve seen do this was Serenity. They marketed that movie as some sort of suspenseful murder mystery when it was actually about… …SPOILERS… a son creating a game in which he tasks his deceased father with killing his step father.
The one trailer that always makes me mad when I think about it is TASM2 trailer, which basically highlighted a whole subplot about Peter being monitored by Oscorp and Harry literally telling him. All of that is just cut out of the movie.
I bet he brings up Predators. When dozens of predator lasers showed onto Adrian Brody. And it turns out there was only 1. That was blatantly telling us something would happen that never was going to be in the movie. It wasn’t a change. Edit: Nope. Didn’t bring it up. But that’s my pick.
aren't a lot of the clips used in trailers that don't end up in the movies a byproduct of the fact that the marketing companies aren't always given the final shots so they used some of the coolest shots from the dailies. Its not like they are given the full finished film to then cut in to the trailers.
I stopped watching trailers ever since the last Jedi, and every single movie I've been I always go opening weekend in IMAX or Dolby for the best blind experience. Better like this I feels 😍😍💙💙
@@nips2good4u80 yes! It is a nice experience, however if an interim I see photos like from IGN, AMC Theaters, and IMBD I will look at that, but otherwise no trailers
@@ItsJustJess269 you are missing out lots of fun, bro. I watch trailers for movies that I don't even plan to watch..and still don't after watching.. it is just too much fun to watch trailers.
@@eltravos99 I think it's more complex than just black and white. I wouldn't call what they did for Infinity War and Endgame, False Advertising. They simple changed the stones so you wouldn't be able to predict when those moments happen in the film. However, showing hulk running in Wakanda with the team though, I would consider that false advertising. I still think it's not a big deal, tbh. Are you saying that every time they did an edit in the trailer, thats not in the film, that you felt falsely advertised to?
@@eltravos99 I'm just saying by your thin definition, every video game trailer has falsely advertised their product. IMO I do not believe Marvel has falsely advertise their films. Their trailers do contain contents that do not make it into the final product, and or are used to purposely maintain the integrity of the story.
@@eltravos99 Ok, A lot to unpack here. First, uh that was an awful analogy. Assault is a big deal. I don't know why you brought that up. NOW in the context to films and trailers, which we are talking about because a trailer can't punch you. It really isn't a big deal, and I can't imagine a lot of people disagreeing with me on this. Your thin definition crumbles when applied to video games. Hell, K dramas will purposely edit the trailer for the next episode to mislead the audience and subvert their expectations. No one is screaming false advertising there, but the examples John brought up in the discussion were a big deal. When a movie is being demo'd to children and they are led to believe they are about to watch a fantasy epic but in fact are watching a sad telling of an accidental death of a child friend, is a big no no, and I would classify it as false advertising. Marvel hasn't done this to it's audience. which is why I state that it's not a big deal. I'm done dude.
An interesting question. I remember watching The Last Airbender movie and thinking the best part of the movie was in the trailer because of scenes that were not in the movie itself and that was pretty sad. Also, I remember learning about someone wanting to sue the producers of the Suicide Squad movie (the 2015 or 2016 version) for false advertisement because the scenes of Jared Letos' Joker wasn't in the movie but was in the trailers. I still watch trailers to judge whether I would be interested in wanting to watch a movie or not. There hasn't been a whole lot of times where a trailer was that misleading to where what I got from the trailer and whether it match what I saw from the movie happened. I thinking if trailers get wore than what we are getting now, then I think there would be problem.
I thought in another instance with Spider-Man Homecoming was False Advertising. The Trailers were all about how Peter was training or learning from Tony and he was barely in it
Kingsman 2 had pretty deceptive marketing. It made Channing Tatum seem like a major character in the film when he was really only in it for like 5 minutes.
Another really annoying one is misleading tone. The first trailers for Age of Ultron and the original Suicide Squad made it seem like we were going to get much darker films than what we got.
While I do not believe it is the case for Spidey here (or Bridge to Taribithia either!), I think trailers are often released before the film is complete, so sometimes they will have alternate shots, funny one-liners, etc. that don't actually make it into the final cut of the film. I seem to recall Men In Black having a really great line from Will Smith in the trailer, but in the actual movie he either had a different line or didn't say it at all. I think I am going to have to look up that trailer now. But I digress...
I think a manipulation like this is fair if the intent is to prevent a major spoiler. I've seen many botched trailers that basically spoiled a big twist or a big reveal that got fans disappointed. One that comes to mind from fairly recent years is the teaser for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2. They basically opened the trailer with Voldemort killing Harry. Now, I may have known that would come because I was a fan of the books before the films but for general audience that can be a major spoiler
False advertising would be if Andrew and Tobey are in the trailer and not in the movie, this way, no, it will be only a surprise, but for sure a welcome one
John, a classic example of false marketing was the campaign for The Amazing Spider-Man franchise. It was marketed as the Untold Story and tried to give us a little insight into the life of Peter’s parents but clearly the first movie was more or less a remake of the 2002 Spider-Man movie directed by Sam Raimi. In a similar way, the trailers for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 almost spoilt the entire film and they cut out so much of material which was included in the trailer including dialogues that were going to set up the TASM universe but none of them ever made into the final cut. This was part of what destroyed that franchise and Sony has been doing a terrible job marketing their Spider-Man movies without giving away so much of pivotal information. If you ask me, I think it’s only a matter of time until they actually spoil most of the scenes in NWH through their TV spots leading upto the release
Speaking about misleading trailers can we talk about DUNE??….WB made believe Zendaya was going to have a prominent role and that we were going to see lots of action sequences🤦🏾♀️
I mean people who read books knew Zendaya is not going to be important part of 1st movie and action will be less in part 1 but yeah I guess for general audience it's misleading 😅
Is this dude seriously comparing advertising a certain product as doing certain stuff it can NOT do to a movie editing shots to avoid spoiling the surprises it has in store?
The other guys is one that sticks out in my head….they advertised Samuel L Jackson and the Rock as the co stars alongside Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg. Then when the movie came out they were in it for 5 minutes. 🤣 In this case it works though because that whole situation was used as a gag.
While this wasn't a film, The Last of Us Part II did false advertising making you think that Joel and Ellie were gonna go avenge the girl Ellie was in love with, the actual game killed Joel off in the first few hours and the girl presumed to be dead in the trailers was very much alive. They even swapped out other characters with Joel to make it seem he had a bigger part.
Ever since AGE OF ULTRON. I stopped watching trailers, i just remember the opening scene, and Ironman doing that sick slide on the snow. And thinking “man, if I waited to watch that in theatres, that would have been so cool” Its takes a bit of work, but so happy i do it.
The 2006 remake of 'Black Christmas' is a perfect example of this. During filming, the filmmakers clashed numerous times with the Weinsteins about the film's tone and ending. But during post-production, the Weinsteins went behind the director's back and shot some additional footage that was only meant for the trailers and not to be included in the actual film.
As soon as this video started I thought bridge to terabithia too, that trailer makes it seem like a double of Narnia where two kids go to a magical world and are the heroes of that world and all ends happily ever after, but the film isn't really about that, I get some shots in trailers might not be in the final film, e.g. if scenes are deleted or changed, but to me it is very misleading when trailets edit or cut parts out
if they just temporarily removed for surprise purposes. i have no qualms. but if they include something but was not in the movie. then we have a problem.
As someone who has made a few trailers in my day, I always try to mislead the audience. Not in an evil way but I like to paint a different picture. Give a nugget about what the story is but tell a story for the trailer. It was worked out really well to hide things for the audience.
I dont like manipulated footage. But I allow for stitching scenes together that are in the movie a certain way for the trailer, or for changes to the movie after the trailer is released. But I dont like putting things in trailers that they know upfront they have no intention of ever putting in the movie. Movie to movie, you can get away with it in the short term. But over time, I believe it does weaken trust in the trailers.
I don't think it is a bad thing(yet). And I think it works better for Superhero movies, cos like In ENdgame and Infinity War it was done to hide spoilers and it worked out fine IMO. No one came out of the theater for Infinity War or Endgame and was like "Naa, that trailer was a false advertisement, that wasn't the movie I wanted to see". But almost everyone came out satisfied with the film and even appreciated that some things were hidden in the trailer. But when you come out of a theater of a movie, whose trailer showed a very light-hearted fun movie but gave u something close to R-rated, that calls for discussion.
The Marvel examples are different in that they’re hiding things that would be spoilers. I have a problem with the movies like Bridge to Teribithia or The Village that seem to actively lie about what TYPE of movie it is. They market the movie in a way that misleads audiences and that’s wrong.
keeping a character secret or hidden in a scene is a drastic difference from misrepresenting what the movie is about. A trailer is in part meant to provide a representation of what kind of movie the trailer is representing and the feel of the movie. So, hiding a character in a trailer does not misrepresent the overall content and story of a film while the other will draw in audiences for a different film than what they got and that is a disservice and should not be permitted.
@@rayawira part of the assessment would be in how they word such an advertisement. if they guarantee at least 10 hours it would not be false advertising. at all for it to go longer. if they present it as around 10 hours it would not be false advertising. if they advertise a 10 hour battery time that only lasts 6 hours that would be false advertising. even coming out directly to say plainly the battery will last 10 hours and then it lasts 11 could simply be under valuing the length of the battery due to variation in how long the battery lasts from one battery to the other and while they can guarantee 10 hours they may not be so confident in guaranteeing 11 and so still not be providing false advertising.
Someone in the UK sued a cinema for the movie Drive. They put every action scene in the trailer and he thought it was a Fast & Furious type movie, instead of the incredibly slow drama it actually was.
In my opinion, advertising for something narrative that is going through an editing process is something entirely different than advertising for a product or a service with a defined proposition and expectation of what you are getting. So, in that regard, it's really hard to claim false advertising on movies, books, music, etc. where you don't necessarily know what's going to happen in them. Can it erode audience trust and reliability in trailers, sure. But ultimately, how does it affect box office performance, streaming numbers, or purchases. Audiences may stop paying attention to trailers -- very unlikely -- but does that ultimately hurt the films. That's the real question.
For me, the two most misleading and falsely advertised films were The amazing spider man 2 and Shazam!. Shazam! was advertised as this extremely funny and light hearted film w a bad guy, but they left out the extremely terrifying Seven deadly sins and the violence. I took my 8yr old sister to watch this, and I had to leave half way into the film because these monsters were scaring her and I had no idea there was gonna be anything like this in there. Also the amazing spider man 2 was advertised as this very serious and personal spider man story and his biggest film yet, however it's super goofy and doesn't take anything seriously until Gwen's death
I don't watch anything but teasers anymore and maybe the first trailer. If I'm on the fence after the first I MIGHT watch a second trailer if I'm not concerned about spoilers.
The first Scooby-Doo movie trailer had scenes that were never in the movie. I was disappointed because those scenes had me rolling with laughter. At some point I do see it as false advertisement. The trailers make people want to see the film. As you've said about the Transformers movies had great Trailers but were horrible movies.
The trailer that I look back and think this wasn't in the movie was in an early trailer of 2017 Justice league where a glass of water is shown with a ripple and then Alfred says something like I was expecting you or similar but was in the Zack Snider Justice League obvious it was a Snider scene n not a Whedon scene.
We have to remember that when trailers come out , some movies are still in post production. Scenes are taken out or modify in some way💯 A trailer is a TEASE, it shouldn’t be a full blown reveal
I'm fine with saving plot points for the movie (Thor losing his eye in Ragnarok not being in the trailer, for example). To me in this industry I would only really consider advertising to be "false advertising" when it substantively shows something that is NOTHING like the movie. For example, this movie has Spider-Man fighting multiple villains. That's not substantively different than multiple Spider-Men fighting villains. We know what to expect going in, it's a superhero movie with good guys and bad guys. If, for example, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Electro, Lizard and Sandman were literally not in this movie AT ALL...that would be false advertising. For me that bar is very high in the entertainment industry and really only gets cleared when the ads are maliciously trying to get you to buy a ticket when you never would have otherwise
I still remember them showing the Hulk running with the rest of the Avengers in Wakanda in the Infinity War trailer. That has to be the biggest false advertisement of all time! 😱
I am afraid there is a possibility where the invisible guy punching Lizard is either Doc or Green Goblin. This movie is actually about Spiderman befriending his two villains to fight the other three. Offcourse it's only a possibility but I have gotten quite invested in the idea of three spidermen in the movie that if they are not there I will be dissatisfied and disappointed.
Bro' the only official confirmation about the movie is that Green Goblin is the main villain of this movie. And you want to pull a Mephisto-shitty-theory in this one too? For God's sake... 🤣 You gotta be very, very, but VERY DAMN DUMB to believe something like that. Green Goblin being a good guy? 🤣🤣🤣 Oh my God. You don't know your ass from a whole on the ground when it comes to these characters. The only thing that was confirmed officially, and that's the thing you decided to change to pull this dumb theory. A little bit of common sense please. Green Goblin is the one who is gonna kill all. He's the main villain.
@@ishanbajpai6940 Perhaps, but who sounds like a teenager is you with all that nonsense you wrote down. At least I have some common sense. Green Goblin an allie? 🤣🤣🤣
@@frionelmessi4969 I mean my comment was a innocent speculation about a Spiderman movie nothing more. Your reply seemed like I called your father green Goblin. That overreaction of a reply seemed like an immature 12 year old's ramblings, that's all.
I don't mind if a trailer removes someone from a scene or two because their prescence itself is a spoiler. That's fine. It's when they draw attention to something exciting that actually isn't in the movie that pisses me off. For example, if a trailer has a famous character (that the studio knows the fans like) and it's framed like they're gonna be important to the movie when in reality they barely show up, that's false advertising now. It's because they drew attention to something that leaves the feeling of being cheated.
I feel like people don’t really get the function of a trailer. While a trailer might get people hyped about a movie it’s not it’s primary function; a trailer is supposed to give you the general vibe of the movie. Did the spiderman trailer give us a good vibe of the movie? Yes! Did it hide some elements not to reveal the plot of the whole movie? Yes, so what.
You’re not reading or listening. The problem isn’t what the trailer isn’t doing, it’s what IS DOING. By law, adding and removing major elements such as characters from a film trailer is by DEFINITION, false advertising. Because by removing elements your showing a product that ultimately isn’t what you’re going to be presented and it becomes a problem when people begin to sue these companies because as we all know, false advertising is illegall.
@@Mrgomodefr it isn’t false advertising. You’re gonna get almost everything that’s in the trailer and more. False advertising would be showing an action movie trailer and then having a horror movie instead. If it turns out that doc oc, electro, etc. Aren’t in the movie, I would agree that it’s complete false advertising, but what they’re doing is hiding added benefits.
I don't have a issue with studios hiding what's going on in the movie you got too many people with videos trying to see what's gonna happen to the movie instead of just waiting until the movie comes out. It's hard to make a movie anymore with everybody trying to figure out what the movie's about instead of just waiting until the movie comes out and actually watch it.
I believe if the trailer show more scenes that are removed from the film, that’s is ok; but, to show a scene that is not in the movie isn’t acceptable: Example: Showing the other two Spider-Man’s in the trailer and if they are not in the movie, is unacceptable. If the hold a surprise scent, such as other Spider-Man’s it’s frustrating but acceptable.
Marvel has been editing trailers for the MCU. Hulk instead of Hulkbuster in Infinity War, Far From Home changing some words, etc… If you build the hype and save some secrets, as long as it works all is good.
Last movie I’ve seen that had straight up false advertising is that movie with Seth Rogan & Charlize Theron, “Long Shot”. It was advertised as a action romantic comedy but nah it’s a straight predictable romantic comedy. I was like what in the world am I watching?
The second trailer of the Sonic movie actually made some clever calculated edits where Sonic is wearing the Puma shoes throughout the whole thing, when in the movie, he only has the shoes in the last third. I think that decision made sense because of how frustrated the Sonic fanbase was up to that point before the new design was revealed. If they saw that he wasn't wearing the classic shoes and was instead wearing the worn down homeless shoes in the movie, they would have complained about it not knowing the actual context.
Hey guys, Yeah its an interesting topic, i mean we get why Disney and Sony do this for the MCU advertising campaign but what's happens if this sets a precedent for studios going forward to do to as many films as they can in this way, this would eventually just become a farce and anger many...In regards to War For The Planet Of The Apes, i love that trilogy and loved the last one right but i have this massive canvas wall art on my wall that is supposed to be a scene from the movie were the Apes and Humans are facing each other in battle but there is no such scene in the film..i got it as a present because i love it but yeah it makes no sense...lets just hope all this stuff doesnt become common place in the movie Industry!
I started avoiding trailers because they were spoiling the films. I have no problem with the studio protecting the film experience by cutting trailers that throw you off and preserve the surprise.
IMO, it’s good to edit the trailers to avoid giving away spoilers, because some surprises enhance the viewing experience. The purpose of a trailer is to give the audience a sense of what the movie is like so they can decide whether they think they will enjoy watching it. What is not ok is the Bridge to Taribithia situation since that misrepresented the movie. Spider-Man was a nice surprise in Civil War, but his absence from the trailer didn’t change the movie. It’s all about the purpose of a trailer. Just don’t misrepresent the movie or fans will not be happy.
I feel like this is a confusing complaint. I don’t think it’s false advertising to withhold parts of a movie. That literally what a trailer is💯 Nobody wants to see a trailer and half every plot point verbatim in it (ie. BVS /Doomsday reveal)
I read Bridge to Terebithia in school, and I loved the book. I remember when the film's trailers came out, I knew the context of the imaginary world from the source material and laughed at the attempt to sell another "Percy Jackson/Chronicals of Narnia" type of film. Totally mis-marketed! That being said, its not a bad adaption in the end!
I still love and need trailers but i find myself many times watching the first minute of the trailer and skipping to the end, for me though this is because of a bigger problem, trailers that show the whole plot line and way too much of a film in a trailer that makes u feel like u already seen the movie..this happened with the trailer for upcoming film 'Ambulence'...just ridiculous!
I don’t want any trailer to give away a big part of a movie. I don’t understand people dissecting trailers…. Don’t you people want to be surprised when you actually watch the movie in the theater?
does the trailer represent the movie? in this case yes. we are pretty sure everything in the trailer is in the movie, it is just everything in the movie is not in the trailer.
Can't forget the paranormal activity franchise miss leading as hell after the 2nd it left a bad taste in my mouth after the 3rd I jumped ship. now if I'm iffy about a movie i wait till the reviews come out.
And they can get away wit it cuz they have the authority to release whatever they want in the final cut. Now they could get in trouble False Advertising if we go to see No Way Home and we get Thor: Ragnarok, they're in trouble. Hell, even if get Endgame and they say "Hey, Spider-man WAS in there." then Disney/Marvel x Sony is DEFINITELY in trouble. But yeh, it's all to build up hype anyways. But they can't BS too much. Infinity War & Endgame was fine, and I THINK this'll be fine. But we'll see. I feel like outta IW, EG & No Way Home, NWH will DEF be the movie that we'll feel the most misled by the trailers with. It's A LOT they're changing and omitting I'm sure.
I get there point like what if your that 1 person who went to see infinity war for the hulk to see him fight and it wasn't there they would be rightfully so pissed off if you think if it as if your in there shoes
I’d say what Infinity War and Endgame did was more “misdirection” than “false advertising.” Because the movie they presented in the trailers, were the movies we (for the most part) wanted and got. I think those were more little misdirects than anything else to keep the audience guessing and not spoil anything. What they’re doing with No Way Home is more keeping the audience guessing to keep the hype and not give TOO MUCH away. Because I’m 99.9% sure that the movie being advertised (as far as story, plot, characters, tone, and action) is the movie we’re (for the most part) gonna want and get. A Marvel movie I’d say that was “false advertised” was Iron Man 3. The trailers showed a darker toned character study of Tony struggling with PTSD, facing a hidden, menacing terrorist no one can seem to find, and trying to protect himself and Pepper. BUT, the ACTUAL movie was Tony WITHOUT his armor half the time, facing a petty, butthurt main villain in Aldrich Killian, a petty, butthurt former fling in Maya Hansen, and a stupid actor pretending to be The Mandarin in Trevor Slattery (thank God The Mandarin was redeemed in Shang-Chi with Wenwu), which to this day is the WORST and stupidest plot twist in superhero movie history IMO. The Iron Patriot suit that was showed a bunch in the trailer was basically useless. The menacing and evasive Mandarin wonderfully cast as Ben Kingsley turned out to be a literal joke. And while Tony’s PTSD and struggle to protect himself and Pepper was a big part of the story, the movie’s more lighthearted tone wasn’t AT ALL how the trailers presented it.
Take Thor: Ragnorak. If I remember correctly, I was disappointed that they showed Hulk in the trailers. To me, it would have been great if I was totally surprised but then again, showing that Hulk was in the movie also hyped up the audience to go to the theatres. If they ommit things from the trailer to prevent huge spoilers like Hulk, I agree. But if the trailers are manipulated to show the movie to be a different genre or place exciting scenes that they cut from the movie, then that is a form of manipulating the audience and that's not cool. This spiderman trailer falls in the first category. They've shown that villains are being pulled from other universes. So, there's a big reveal right there. There's no need to show who else is coming, cause the hype is there. IF the other spidermen are there, it will be a nice surprise for movie goers. But then again, it's been spoiled already, even though Sony never admitted that other spideys will be there.
I'm not going care about how people feeding the is Toby and Andrew in the movie no more. I'm just gonna worry about that if they are and that moment happens how loud the theater gonna be like it's a thor in infinity war moment or avengers endgame moment.
but sony has not said anything about toby or garfield being in the movie so it can not be false Advertising the edit out is a rumor and a theory from those who are still 100% that they are in it
X-Men Wolverine Origins; I forget which trailer it was but they made it seem like Gambit was a significant character in the film, not a fleeting cameo that impacted little to nothing.
A movie trailer that suffered through false advertising was Like a boss! The trailer clearly advertises the plot as Salma Hayek’s character working with the makeup company of these 2 women and eventually stealing their company. That doesn’t actually happen until the last 15 minutes of the movie!!!! I already didn’t like the movie before that but that was the last straw.
It is 100% false advertising. If you need to hide spoilers you need not include those things in the trailer at all instead of faking images to hide them.
The worst false advertising ever, 1. Domestic Disturbance starring John Travolta,Vince Vaughn and Teri Polo (all major scenes in trailer were not shown ) 2. Cold Creek Manor starring Dennis Quaid, Sharon Stone, Stephen Dorff, Juliette Lewis, Kristen Stewart and Christopher Plummer. Trailer presented as a horror/ghost film, turns out to be a thriller film...
The Drive movie trailer suit is even odder than this. They weren't just claiming that the trailer was misleading but that the film was Anti-Semitic. That's a far different argument. The person who originally brought the suit isn't even involved anymore. And it's actually not even the same lawsuit. The lawyer from the first case filed a different suit in federal court after the original suit was first dismissed in court and then dismissed in appeal. The appellate judge even said that the advertising wasn't misleading because they had car chases in the film. They tried to take that case to the state Supreme Court and the court wouldn't hear it.
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is a perfect example of to mess up a trailer this bad where the scenes they show are actually deleted scenes, scenes are actually reshoots, or basically spoils everything such as the final shot of the film where Spider-Man takes down Rhino for the first time and I hate it because of it.
The Godzilla movie that had Brian Cranston in it is probably the best example of false advertisement. I was so mad when I saw that movie he still had the momentum from Breaking Bad and they used him for no more than 10 minutes
Such a weird opinion to have. The whole point of a trailer is give you the sense of the film, and what you're getting before buying your ticket. This trailer completed that goal, and has save surprises for the film, not everyone follows the Toby/Andrew leaks like us, so they have no clue, think about how shocked they'll be.
These edits are actually taking away from the trailer as well, not adding elements that're not going to be in the movie (which would be closer to false advertising). This makes the movie experience better, why would anyone complain about this?
Im curious at what you know? Seriously do you work at Sony or Marvel? Where's the evidence of Tobey and Andrew been in it other than pure theories and wild fan guessing.
@@JonytobiUchiha yes I work at Sony.
@@JonytobiUchiha did you even watch the video? Or been on the internet? John literally mentions that one shot where the lizard is apparently punched by an invisible force, someone was very obviously digitally removed from the shot, are you blind?
I think one of the times where it was actually bad and not a pleasant surprise was Predators movie and the shot where Adrien Brody was about to be attacked by like a dozen plus Predator lasers but in the movie it only turned out to be one, when that was the main shot that made me go see it in theaters because I wanted to see how he would get out of that one. It made what already isn't a great movie overall turn out to be even worse for me as a viewer, so stuff like that can backfire on you and in my opinion, THAT situation should be considered false advertisement imho.
So you agree showing Hulk in infinity war was false advertising?
It's all about hype. The moment they confirm Tobey and Andrew are in, the hype will die down. They need people to keep talking about the movie as much as possible until release date. I assume they will reveal them like a week before 12/17/21. I don't think at all that it was false advertisement because fans have been theorizing from leaks only.
Or.... Or.... Or they are not in the movie? Shocking right?
@@JonytobiUchiha Hey, up to you to believe whatever you want. But Disney phone called John Campea after the leaks telling him to take them down. It is truly stupid to call someone for a fake of something that does not exist in a movie, I suppose. But whatever.
@Zane Drake What evidence? Cause all everyone has is pure theories. All of you will be so disappointed when the movie is out and they are not in it. This is a Tom Holland movie.
@@sebastianrodriguez8692 No they didn't 😂 did you watched that video?
@@JonytobiUchiha John Campea literally said this with his mouth almost right after it happened. The video is on his channel. Are you out of your mind?
Godzilla 2014 - That trailer had me believe Bryan Cranston was the main character of a dark kaiju movie, where Godzilla was going to be centre stage and taken seriously like his 1954 and 1984 counterpart. Instead we got Aron Taylor Johnsen playing chase the M.U.T.O's. Godzilla felt like a tertiary character in its own movie, I'm so glad Godzilla: KotM and Godzilla vs Kong treated Godzilla and the other Kaiju as characters.
Yes but it made it all the more of a shock when Cranston was killed off. I thought it was a great twist. And are you saying Godzilla was worse than the sequels? KOTM was one of the worst films I have ever seen and GvK wasn’t much better.
If it's done to avoid spoilers I'm absolutely cool with it. But if not then not so much. I remember how hyped I was to see the beach run in Rogue One. In the trailers it looked like a sequence straight from a war movie and it was the scene I was looking forward to the most. I was extremely disappointed when it was not in the movie and I did feel like I was sold a false product.
Didn't Disney think the beach assault was too dark?
@@deathsdoor07 I don't think so. The beach run is probably from an earlier version of the film where some characters survive. Then they decided to kill everyone off and the beach scene was cut out. That's what I heard at least.
@@deathsdoor07 Disney think it's too dark? But somehow had everyone killed at the beach and had Darth Vader massacred the Rebels at the end? lmao
For me leaving things out isn’t misleading. Putting something in that isn’t there is misleading.
I think that companies altering scenes in a trailer in order to keep something a secret is okay. However, what I don’t agree with, like John talks about, is when companies completely market the movie as something it’s not. To this day, one of the worst movies I’ve seen do this was Serenity. They marketed that movie as some sort of suspenseful murder mystery when it was actually about…
…SPOILERS…
a son creating a game in which he tasks his deceased father with killing his step father.
Spider-Man homecoming when Iron Man was Flying with Spider-Man swinging. I was so looking forward to that shot. Not in the movie. 😆
The one trailer that always makes me mad when I think about it is TASM2 trailer, which basically highlighted a whole subplot about Peter being monitored by Oscorp and Harry literally telling him. All of that is just cut out of the movie.
I bet he brings up Predators. When dozens of predator lasers showed onto Adrian Brody. And it turns out there was only 1. That was blatantly telling us something would happen that never was going to be in the movie. It wasn’t a change.
Edit: Nope. Didn’t bring it up. But that’s my pick.
aren't a lot of the clips used in trailers that don't end up in the movies a byproduct of the fact that the marketing companies aren't always given the final shots so they used some of the coolest shots from the dailies. Its not like they are given the full finished film to then cut in to the trailers.
I stopped watching trailers ever since the last Jedi, and every single movie I've been I always go opening weekend in IMAX or Dolby for the best blind experience. Better like this I feels 😍😍💙💙
If that is true, then that's crazy
Personally I watch all trailers. But don't go looking for spoilers
@@nips2good4u80 yes! It is a nice experience, however if an interim I see photos like from IGN, AMC Theaters, and IMBD I will look at that, but otherwise no trailers
@@ItsJustJess269 you are missing out lots of fun, bro. I watch trailers for movies that I don't even plan to watch..and still don't after watching.. it is just too much fun to watch trailers.
Damn, that’s wild! The trailers elevate hype to max levels. For me, personally, I couldn’t miss out on watching the trailers.
@@Chuk392 It really is. I love the trailers cause of the hype it gives to the film and the social aspect of it. Gets everyone talking.
I was wondering about that!!! False advertisements to sell a product????
I don't think it's false advertising. Honestly. I prefer what marvel has been doing to keep mystery in the film.
@@eltravos99 I think it's more complex than just black and white. I wouldn't call what they did for Infinity War and Endgame, False Advertising. They simple changed the stones so you wouldn't be able to predict when those moments happen in the film. However, showing hulk running in Wakanda with the team though, I would consider that false advertising. I still think it's not a big deal, tbh. Are you saying that every time they did an edit in the trailer, thats not in the film, that you felt falsely advertised to?
@@eltravos99 I'm just saying by your thin definition, every video game trailer has falsely advertised their product. IMO I do not believe Marvel has falsely advertise their films. Their trailers do contain contents that do not make it into the final product, and or are used to purposely maintain the integrity of the story.
@@eltravos99 Ok, A lot to unpack here. First, uh that was an awful analogy. Assault is a big deal. I don't know why you brought that up. NOW in the context to films and trailers, which we are talking about because a trailer can't punch you. It really isn't a big deal, and I can't imagine a lot of people disagreeing with me on this. Your thin definition crumbles when applied to video games. Hell, K dramas will purposely edit the trailer for the next episode to mislead the audience and subvert their expectations. No one is screaming false advertising there, but the examples John brought up in the discussion were a big deal. When a movie is being demo'd to children and they are led to believe they are about to watch a fantasy epic but in fact are watching a sad telling of an accidental death of a child friend, is a big no no, and I would classify it as false advertising. Marvel hasn't done this to it's audience. which is why I state that it's not a big deal. I'm done dude.
An interesting question. I remember watching The Last Airbender movie and thinking the best part of the movie was in the trailer because of scenes that were not in the movie itself and that was pretty sad. Also, I remember learning about someone wanting to sue the producers of the Suicide Squad movie (the 2015 or 2016 version) for false advertisement because the scenes of Jared Letos' Joker wasn't in the movie but was in the trailers. I still watch trailers to judge whether I would be interested in wanting to watch a movie or not. There hasn't been a whole lot of times where a trailer was that misleading to where what I got from the trailer and whether it match what I saw from the movie happened. I thinking if trailers get wore than what we are getting now, then I think there would be problem.
I thought in another instance with Spider-Man Homecoming was False Advertising. The Trailers were all about how Peter was training or learning from Tony and he was barely in it
Kingsman 2 had pretty deceptive marketing.
It made Channing Tatum seem like a major character in the film when he was really only in it for like 5 minutes.
Sounds like gi jor 2 also and step up 2 lol
Another really annoying one is misleading tone.
The first trailers for Age of Ultron and the original Suicide Squad made it seem like we were going to get much darker films than what we got.
While I do not believe it is the case for Spidey here (or Bridge to Taribithia either!), I think trailers are often released before the film is complete, so sometimes they will have alternate shots, funny one-liners, etc. that don't actually make it into the final cut of the film. I seem to recall Men In Black having a really great line from Will Smith in the trailer, but in the actual movie he either had a different line or didn't say it at all. I think I am going to have to look up that trailer now. But I digress...
I think a manipulation like this is fair if the intent is to prevent a major spoiler. I've seen many botched trailers that basically spoiled a big twist or a big reveal that got fans disappointed. One that comes to mind from fairly recent years is the teaser for Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2. They basically opened the trailer with Voldemort killing Harry. Now, I may have known that would come because I was a fan of the books before the films but for general audience that can be a major spoiler
False advertising would be if Andrew and Tobey are in the trailer and not in the movie, this way, no, it will be only a surprise, but for sure a welcome one
It isn't false advertising. They simply want to keep somethings back. It isn't full disclosure, but all films do that one way or another.
Yea
I think the trouble with NWH is the amount of leaks in films makes it more Awkward to do railers they want 😂
I can't believe you spoke about Bridge to Terebithia 😭😭😭😭 one of my favorite films ever. Thank you for sending me on a nostalgic trip.
John, a classic example of false marketing was the campaign for The Amazing Spider-Man franchise. It was marketed as the Untold Story and tried to give us a little insight into the life of Peter’s parents but clearly the first movie was more or less a remake of the 2002 Spider-Man movie directed by Sam Raimi. In a similar way, the trailers for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 almost spoilt the entire film and they cut out so much of material which was included in the trailer including dialogues that were going to set up the TASM universe but none of them ever made into the final cut. This was part of what destroyed that franchise and Sony has been doing a terrible job marketing their Spider-Man movies without giving away so much of pivotal information. If you ask me, I think it’s only a matter of time until they actually spoil most of the scenes in NWH through their TV spots leading upto the release
Speaking about misleading trailers can we talk about DUNE??….WB made believe Zendaya was going to have a prominent role and that we were going to see lots of action sequences🤦🏾♀️
I mean people who read books knew Zendaya is not going to be important part of 1st movie and action will be less in part 1 but yeah I guess for general audience it's misleading 😅
Is this dude seriously comparing advertising a certain product as doing certain stuff it can NOT do to a movie editing shots to avoid spoiling the surprises it has in store?
No
He is asking how much fake footage would need to be included before the comparison becomes valid
If people are complaining about shots being modified I wonder how they feel about music used in trailers in many cases not being in the film as well
The other guys is one that sticks out in my head….they advertised Samuel L Jackson and the Rock as the co stars alongside Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg. Then when the movie came out they were in it for 5 minutes. 🤣 In this case it works though because that whole situation was used as a gag.
While this wasn't a film, The Last of Us Part II did false advertising making you think that Joel and Ellie were gonna go avenge the girl Ellie was in love with, the actual game killed Joel off in the first few hours and the girl presumed to be dead in the trailers was very much alive.
They even swapped out other characters with Joel to make it seem he had a bigger part.
Ever since AGE OF ULTRON. I stopped watching trailers, i just remember the opening scene, and Ironman doing that sick slide on the snow. And thinking “man, if I waited to watch that in theatres, that would have been so cool”
Its takes a bit of work, but so happy i do it.
Why should we care? Just wait a little more, then go and see it for yourself. Speculating about upcoming films is pretty much pointless.
You don't get it....you just don't get it.......
This whole discussion is ridiculous.
Nope
The 2006 remake of 'Black Christmas' is a perfect example of this. During filming, the filmmakers clashed numerous times with the Weinsteins about the film's tone and ending. But during post-production, the Weinsteins went behind the director's back and shot some additional footage that was only meant for the trailers and not to be included in the actual film.
As soon as this video started I thought bridge to terabithia too, that trailer makes it seem like a double of Narnia where two kids go to a magical world and are the heroes of that world and all ends happily ever after, but the film isn't really about that, I get some shots in trailers might not be in the final film, e.g. if scenes are deleted or changed, but to me it is very misleading when trailets edit or cut parts out
if they just temporarily removed for surprise purposes. i have no qualms. but if they include something but was not in the movie. then we have a problem.
It's hype that involves lying by omission... interesting take, but it is done to surprise the audience... it is a very intriguing topic.
As someone who has made a few trailers in my day, I always try to mislead the audience. Not in an evil way but I like to paint a different picture. Give a nugget about what the story is but tell a story for the trailer. It was worked out really well to hide things for the audience.
I dont like manipulated footage. But I allow for stitching scenes together that are in the movie a certain way for the trailer, or for changes to the movie after the trailer is released.
But I dont like putting things in trailers that they know upfront they have no intention of ever putting in the movie.
Movie to movie, you can get away with it in the short term. But over time, I believe it does weaken trust in the trailers.
I don't think it is a bad thing(yet). And I think it works better for Superhero movies, cos like In ENdgame and Infinity War it was done to hide spoilers and it worked out fine IMO. No one came out of the theater for Infinity War or Endgame and was like "Naa, that trailer was a false advertisement, that wasn't the movie I wanted to see". But almost everyone came out satisfied with the film and even appreciated that some things were hidden in the trailer. But when you come out of a theater of a movie, whose trailer showed a very light-hearted fun movie but gave u something close to R-rated, that calls for discussion.
The Marvel examples are different in that they’re hiding things that would be spoilers. I have a problem with the movies like Bridge to Teribithia or The Village that seem to actively lie about what TYPE of movie it is. They market the movie in a way that misleads audiences and that’s wrong.
The most misleading isn’t Hopkins, instead scream….the whole ad campaign was about the lead famous actress being chased…you know…Drew Barrymore.
I remember the trailer for paranormal activity 3 maybe has a single shot that’s actually in the movie
Hahaha! Fun question! Yes, probably, but unlike most fake advertising, it is underselling the final product, so it's OK!
They can get away by saying during old days there r no trailers ...we can false advertise, if our movie flops we r taking loses, not govt or people
False advertisement would be if this movie said it was a Tony stark and antman collab film and using the recent NWH trailers to market the movie.
Lol exactly
trailer deception in order to hide badass details/plotpoints = good
trailer deception to completely misrepresent what the movie will be = bad
keeping a character secret or hidden in a scene is a drastic difference from misrepresenting what the movie is about. A trailer is in part meant to provide a representation of what kind of movie the trailer is representing and the feel of the movie. So, hiding a character in a trailer does not misrepresent the overall content and story of a film while the other will draw in audiences for a different film than what they got and that is a disservice and should not be permitted.
@@rayawira part of the assessment would be in how they word such an advertisement. if they guarantee at least 10 hours it would not be false advertising. at all for it to go longer. if they present it as around 10 hours it would not be false advertising. if they advertise a 10 hour battery time that only lasts 6 hours that would be false advertising. even coming out directly to say plainly the battery will last 10 hours and then it lasts 11 could simply be under valuing the length of the battery due to variation in how long the battery lasts from one battery to the other and while they can guarantee 10 hours they may not be so confident in guaranteeing 11 and so still not be providing false advertising.
Someone in the UK sued a cinema for the movie Drive. They put every action scene in the trailer and he thought it was a Fast & Furious type movie, instead of the incredibly slow drama it actually was.
In my opinion, advertising for something narrative that is going through an editing process is something entirely different than advertising for a product or a service with a defined proposition and expectation of what you are getting. So, in that regard, it's really hard to claim false advertising on movies, books, music, etc. where you don't necessarily know what's going to happen in them.
Can it erode audience trust and reliability in trailers, sure. But ultimately, how does it affect box office performance, streaming numbers, or purchases. Audiences may stop paying attention to trailers -- very unlikely -- but does that ultimately hurt the films. That's the real question.
Wait what was Campeas take on the matter??? Did he ever say?
For me, the two most misleading and falsely advertised films were The amazing spider man 2 and Shazam!. Shazam! was advertised as this extremely funny and light hearted film w a bad guy, but they left out the extremely terrifying Seven deadly sins and the violence. I took my 8yr old sister to watch this, and I had to leave half way into the film because these monsters were scaring her and I had no idea there was gonna be anything like this in there. Also the amazing spider man 2 was advertised as this very serious and personal spider man story and his biggest film yet, however it's super goofy and doesn't take anything seriously until Gwen's death
I don't watch anything but teasers anymore and maybe the first trailer. If I'm on the fence after the first I MIGHT watch a second trailer if I'm not concerned about spoilers.
The first Scooby-Doo movie trailer had scenes that were never in the movie. I was disappointed because those scenes had me rolling with laughter. At some point I do see it as false advertisement. The trailers make people want to see the film. As you've said about the Transformers movies had great Trailers but were horrible movies.
The trailer that I look back and think this wasn't in the movie was in an early trailer of 2017 Justice league where a glass of water is shown with a ripple and then Alfred says something like I was expecting you or similar but was in the Zack Snider Justice League obvious it was a Snider scene n not a Whedon scene.
I didn't see the other trailer, so Lizard getting punched by an invisible person is news to me. Any chance that person could be Miles Morales?
We have to remember that when trailers come out , some movies are still in post production. Scenes are taken out or modify in some way💯 A trailer is a TEASE, it shouldn’t be a full blown reveal
I am for some reason thinking of an old commercial for an old product. "Head On: Apply directly to the forehead!"
I'm fine with saving plot points for the movie (Thor losing his eye in Ragnarok not being in the trailer, for example). To me in this industry I would only really consider advertising to be "false advertising" when it substantively shows something that is NOTHING like the movie. For example, this movie has Spider-Man fighting multiple villains. That's not substantively different than multiple Spider-Men fighting villains. We know what to expect going in, it's a superhero movie with good guys and bad guys. If, for example, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Electro, Lizard and Sandman were literally not in this movie AT ALL...that would be false advertising. For me that bar is very high in the entertainment industry and really only gets cleared when the ads are maliciously trying to get you to buy a ticket when you never would have otherwise
I still remember them showing the Hulk running with the rest of the Avengers in Wakanda in the Infinity War trailer. That has to be the biggest false advertisement of all time! 😱
I am afraid there is a possibility where the invisible guy punching Lizard is either Doc or Green Goblin.
This movie is actually about Spiderman befriending his two villains to fight the other three.
Offcourse it's only a possibility but I have gotten quite invested in the idea of three spidermen in the movie that if they are not there I will be dissatisfied and disappointed.
Bro' the only official confirmation about the movie is that Green Goblin is the main villain of this movie.
And you want to pull a Mephisto-shitty-theory in this one too?
For God's sake...
🤣 You gotta be very, very, but VERY DAMN DUMB to believe something like that.
Green Goblin being a good guy? 🤣🤣🤣
Oh my God. You don't know your ass from a whole on the ground when it comes to these characters.
The only thing that was confirmed officially, and that's the thing you decided to change to pull this dumb theory.
A little bit of common sense please.
Green Goblin is the one who is gonna kill all.
He's the main villain.
@@frionelmessi4969 I am guessing you are 12, right?
@@ishanbajpai6940
Perhaps, but who sounds like a teenager is you with all that nonsense you wrote down.
At least I have some common sense.
Green Goblin an allie? 🤣🤣🤣
@@frionelmessi4969 I mean my comment was a innocent speculation about a Spiderman movie nothing more.
Your reply seemed like I called your father green Goblin.
That overreaction of a reply seemed like an immature 12 year old's ramblings, that's all.
@@ishanbajpai6940
That's what it is bro. 💪🏻
What if that shot of Spider-Man and electro and sandman and the lizard what if that’s not in the movie?
So what is his opinion? Does he think it's right or wrong?
I don't mind if a trailer removes someone from a scene or two because their prescence itself is a spoiler. That's fine. It's when they draw attention to something exciting that actually isn't in the movie that pisses me off.
For example, if a trailer has a famous character (that the studio knows the fans like) and it's framed like they're gonna be important to the movie when in reality they barely show up, that's false advertising now.
It's because they drew attention to something that leaves the feeling of being cheated.
I feel like people don’t really get the function of a trailer. While a trailer might get people hyped about a movie it’s not it’s primary function; a trailer is supposed to give you the general vibe of the movie. Did the spiderman trailer give us a good vibe of the movie? Yes! Did it hide some elements not to reveal the plot of the whole movie? Yes, so what.
Exactly. And it's not like it's a completely fake trailer
You’re not reading or listening. The problem isn’t what the trailer isn’t doing, it’s what IS DOING. By law, adding and removing major elements such as characters from a film trailer is by DEFINITION, false advertising. Because by removing elements your showing a product that ultimately isn’t what you’re going to be presented and it becomes a problem when people begin to sue these companies because as we all know, false advertising is illegall.
You can still give a good trailer without ruining the plot or simply not include the scenes of the those characters entirely🤷♂️
@@Mrgomodefr it isn’t false advertising. You’re gonna get almost everything that’s in the trailer and more. False advertising would be showing an action movie trailer and then having a horror movie instead. If it turns out that doc oc, electro, etc. Aren’t in the movie, I would agree that it’s complete false advertising, but what they’re doing is hiding added benefits.
I don't have a issue with studios hiding what's going on in the movie you got too many people with videos trying to see what's gonna happen to the movie instead of just waiting until the movie comes out. It's hard to make a movie anymore with everybody trying to figure out what the movie's about instead of just waiting until the movie comes out and actually watch it.
I believe if the trailer show more scenes that are removed from the film, that’s is ok; but, to show a scene that is not in the movie isn’t acceptable: Example: Showing the other two Spider-Man’s in the trailer and if they are not in the movie, is unacceptable.
If the hold a surprise scent, such as other Spider-Man’s it’s frustrating but acceptable.
You forgot to mention they completely changed the scenery when Dr Strange was on the train in the new TV Spot
Marvel has been editing trailers for the MCU. Hulk instead of Hulkbuster in Infinity War, Far From Home changing some words, etc… If you build the hype and save some secrets, as long as it works all is good.
Last movie I’ve seen that had straight up false advertising is that movie with Seth Rogan & Charlize Theron, “Long Shot”. It was advertised as a action romantic comedy but nah it’s a straight predictable romantic comedy. I was like what in the world am I watching?
The second trailer of the Sonic movie actually made some clever calculated edits where Sonic is wearing the Puma shoes throughout the whole thing, when in the movie, he only has the shoes in the last third.
I think that decision made sense because of how frustrated the Sonic fanbase was up to that point before the new design was revealed. If they saw that he wasn't wearing the classic shoes and was instead wearing the worn down homeless shoes in the movie, they would have complained about it not knowing the actual context.
Hey guys, Yeah its an interesting topic, i mean we get why Disney and Sony do this for the MCU advertising campaign but what's happens if this sets a precedent for studios going forward to do to as many films as they can in this way, this would eventually just become a farce and anger many...In regards to War For The Planet Of The Apes, i love that trilogy and loved the last one right but i have this massive canvas wall art on my wall that is supposed to be a scene from the movie were the Apes and Humans are facing each other in battle but there is no such scene in the film..i got it as a present because i love it but yeah it makes no sense...lets just hope all this stuff doesnt become common place in the movie Industry!
I started avoiding trailers because they were spoiling the films. I have no problem with the studio protecting the film experience by cutting trailers that throw you off and preserve the surprise.
I'm with the studios because if they show you what's in it then we complain about they showed too much. Now, this!!! We fans are very ungrateful
IMO, it’s good to edit the trailers to avoid giving away spoilers, because some surprises enhance the viewing experience. The purpose of a trailer is to give the audience a sense of what the movie is like so they can decide whether they think they will enjoy watching it. What is not ok is the Bridge to Taribithia situation since that misrepresented the movie.
Spider-Man was a nice surprise in Civil War, but his absence from the trailer didn’t change the movie. It’s all about the purpose of a trailer. Just don’t misrepresent the movie or fans will not be happy.
I feel like this is a confusing complaint. I don’t think it’s false advertising to withhold parts of a movie. That literally what a trailer is💯 Nobody wants to see a trailer and half every plot point verbatim in it (ie. BVS /Doomsday reveal)
I think it becomes a problem if they promise things that are not in the movie.
I read Bridge to Terebithia in school, and I loved the book. I remember when the film's trailers came out, I knew the context of the imaginary world from the source material and laughed at the attempt to sell another "Percy Jackson/Chronicals of Narnia" type of film. Totally mis-marketed! That being said, its not a bad adaption in the end!
That movie disappeared me. I was expecting a fantasy adventure.
I still love and need trailers but i find myself many times watching the first minute of the trailer and skipping to the end, for me though this is because of a bigger problem, trailers that show the whole plot line and way too much of a film in a trailer that makes u feel like u already seen the movie..this happened with the trailer for upcoming film 'Ambulence'...just ridiculous!
Serpent and the Rainbow. I went into it thinking I was going to see a Horror film, which it kind of was, but it really was a voodoo film.
Endgame, Trailer shots from Rogue 1, Dune trailer where we don't get that final shot in part 1.I hate this practice with a passion.
I don’t want any trailer to give away a big part of a movie. I don’t understand people dissecting trailers…. Don’t you people want to be surprised when you actually watch the movie in the theater?
What are you talking about it was a mistake from sony in Brazil
I and many others dont believe that. It could have been sony plan all along.
does the trailer represent the movie? in this case yes. we are pretty sure everything in the trailer is in the movie, it is just everything in the movie is not in the trailer.
Can't forget the paranormal activity franchise miss leading as hell after the 2nd it left a bad taste in my mouth after the 3rd I jumped ship. now if I'm iffy about a movie i wait till the reviews come out.
And they can get away wit it cuz they have the authority to release whatever they want in the final cut.
Now they could get in trouble False Advertising if we go to see No Way Home and we get Thor: Ragnarok, they're in trouble.
Hell, even if get Endgame and they say "Hey, Spider-man WAS in there."
then Disney/Marvel x Sony is DEFINITELY in trouble.
But yeh, it's all to build up hype anyways. But they can't BS too much.
Infinity War & Endgame was fine, and I THINK this'll be fine.
But we'll see.
I feel like outta IW, EG & No Way Home, NWH will DEF be the movie that we'll feel the most misled by the trailers with.
It's A LOT they're changing and omitting I'm sure.
I get there point like what if your that 1 person who went to see infinity war for the hulk to see him fight and it wasn't there they would be rightfully so pissed off if you think if it as if your in there shoes
Bridge to terabithia..😭 I remember watching it in elementary and it was dark af i hated the death scene
Movies a classic tho
I’d say what Infinity War and Endgame did was more “misdirection” than “false advertising.” Because the movie they presented in the trailers, were the movies we (for the most part) wanted and got. I think those were more little misdirects than anything else to keep the audience guessing and not spoil anything. What they’re doing with No Way Home is more keeping the audience guessing to keep the hype and not give TOO MUCH away. Because I’m 99.9% sure that the movie being advertised (as far as story, plot, characters, tone, and action) is the movie we’re (for the most part) gonna want and get.
A Marvel movie I’d say that was “false advertised” was Iron Man 3. The trailers showed a darker toned character study of Tony struggling with PTSD, facing a hidden, menacing terrorist no one can seem to find, and trying to protect himself and Pepper.
BUT, the ACTUAL movie was Tony WITHOUT his armor half the time, facing a petty, butthurt main villain in Aldrich Killian, a petty, butthurt former fling in Maya Hansen, and a stupid actor pretending to be The Mandarin in Trevor Slattery (thank God The Mandarin was redeemed in Shang-Chi with Wenwu), which to this day is the WORST and stupidest plot twist in superhero movie history IMO. The Iron Patriot suit that was showed a bunch in the trailer was basically useless. The menacing and evasive Mandarin wonderfully cast as Ben Kingsley turned out to be a literal joke. And while Tony’s PTSD and struggle to protect himself and Pepper was a big part of the story, the movie’s more lighthearted tone wasn’t AT ALL how the trailers presented it.
Take Thor: Ragnorak. If I remember correctly, I was disappointed that they showed Hulk in the trailers. To me, it would have been great if I was totally surprised but then again, showing that Hulk was in the movie also hyped up the audience to go to the theatres.
If they ommit things from the trailer to prevent huge spoilers like Hulk, I agree. But if the trailers are manipulated to show the movie to be a different genre or place exciting scenes that they cut from the movie, then that is a form of manipulating the audience and that's not cool.
This spiderman trailer falls in the first category. They've shown that villains are being pulled from other universes. So, there's a big reveal right there. There's no need to show who else is coming, cause the hype is there.
IF the other spidermen are there, it will be a nice surprise for movie goers.
But then again, it's been spoiled already, even though Sony never admitted that other spideys will be there.
I'm not going care about how people feeding the is Toby and Andrew in the movie no more. I'm just gonna worry about that if they are and that moment happens how loud the theater gonna be like it's a thor in infinity war moment or avengers endgame moment.
but sony has not said anything about toby or garfield being in the movie so it can not be false Advertising the edit out is a rumor and a theory from those who are still 100% that they are in it
X-Men Wolverine Origins; I forget which trailer it was but they made it seem like Gambit was a significant character in the film, not a fleeting cameo that impacted little to nothing.
A movie trailer that suffered through false advertising was Like a boss! The trailer clearly advertises the plot as Salma Hayek’s character working with the makeup company of these 2 women and eventually stealing their company. That doesn’t actually happen until the last 15 minutes of the movie!!!! I already didn’t like the movie before that but that was the last straw.
You can't compare marvel studios with anything else.
What about DC? They are pretty much the same at this point. I believe there are 3 new DC films coming out next year
@@Deadpool784 Marvel also has like 5 shows coming out next year as well lol
@@rl8259 Same with DC bruh.
It is 100% false advertising. If you need to hide spoilers you need not include those things in the trailer at all instead of faking images to hide them.
but sony has not said thet are in it so they can lot lie about something they have never siad in the first place
The worst false advertising ever,
1. Domestic Disturbance starring John Travolta,Vince Vaughn and Teri Polo (all major scenes in trailer were not shown )
2. Cold Creek Manor starring Dennis Quaid, Sharon Stone, Stephen Dorff, Juliette Lewis, Kristen Stewart and Christopher Plummer. Trailer presented as a horror/ghost film, turns out to be a thriller film...
Dang. So right about Book of Henry. Definitely didn't sign up for that. I watched til the end but felt like I got catfished.
The Drive movie trailer suit is even odder than this. They weren't just claiming that the trailer was misleading but that the film was Anti-Semitic. That's a far different argument. The person who originally brought the suit isn't even involved anymore. And it's actually not even the same lawsuit. The lawyer from the first case filed a different suit in federal court after the original suit was first dismissed in court and then dismissed in appeal. The appellate judge even said that the advertising wasn't misleading because they had car chases in the film. They tried to take that case to the state Supreme Court and the court wouldn't hear it.