Cosmic Fury Has a Negativity Problem | Anticipating the Final Power Rangers Season
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- Опубликовано: 19 сен 2023
- The final season of Power Rangers is fast approaching. Cosmic Fury drops on Netflix on September 29, 2023.
Fan reactions have been all over the place, sparking conversation about fandom attitudes, toxicity, and positivity. Some are simply critical of the few bits of material that have been shown so far. Others are upset by the lack of promotion, especially with Power Rangers Day was handled. The suits are also receiving some critique on Twitter/X.
And it's not just the fans who are calling eachother out, people who work on the show, including showrunner Simon Bennett have joined in as well.
Is there a negativity problem? Are these negative responses justified?
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wow, what a deep look into all the cosmic fury hype train. i feel like after cosmic fury ends, a lot of this can be forgotten so it’s good to see it immortalized.
hi este :)
What’s up Este?
@@mintbari I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt about your video til you started bashing frontiers. frontiers is not a bad game, its a good game, pop in is not that big a deal and has been in games for years, anyone whining about pop in saying its a reason for a game to be bad ignoring all the good in a game is a fool. graphics or pop in do not matter as long as the gameplay and overall game is good and enjoyable and I'm tired of you all putting people down for liking frontiers, that crap needs to stop. most of you didn't even play the game, if you did you'd be surprised how good it actually is. also, you keep going on about the negativity but simon bennet is in the wrong for even saying fans should have been wiped out by the z wave, thats basically calling the fans evil for disagreeing with how he's doing the show, thats messed up and means he can't take criticism. also last I checked, there's alot of power ranger fans, myself included, that aren't even involved in the fandom and hate everything after the disney era and even hate shattered grid, you don't see alot of us getting involved in the fandom being toxic to people, most of us have moved on to other things. does that mean we're evil or a problem? exactly it doesn't. also that toxic positivity excuse, I'm sick of it being used for frontiers, I went 5 years without being able to talk about anything good about the sonic franchise, the comics, movies, anything, all because of how toxic the forces haters were, and if you tried to say forces' avatar gameplay was good at least and it wasn't as bad as 06 or boom and was just wasted potential(which is the truth), they called you toxic positivity, fans, it was complete bs.
@@infern24 And this is a textbook example of a Sonic fan lol.
I hope you noticed that I only said people were pointing out the popping issue and not that the game was bad.
No it wasn't, he didn't touch on the political issue power rangers is facing. He didn't mention that Dino Fury was banned in more house holds then any other season because they introduced lesbians into a children's show. He tried to say people are mad because of black and female representation yet didn't mention we haven't had a male white ranger since Ninja Steel for political virtue signaling and we are only getting a female red for political virtue signaling so her move to red is tainted in most people's eyes.
Ranger fan parents are sick of the show pushing leftist propaganda on our children. That's why Dino Fury was a failure compared to even Samurai.
I hate it when people try to appeal to the adult fans of kids media but then reply with "its for kids!" Its a flimsy excuse
It’s ridiculous that these grown adults can’t find the brain cells to let it go. The show is not marketed and tailored for you! That’s what once and always was for. These grown men writing whole hate pieces about this show is embarrassing
@@Konstant and yet they have references in the show for adult fans and the showrunner interacts with fans online? And the toyline appeals to adult fans? Its almost as if kids shows can balance having a small adult audience and a majority kid audience
@@meganvincent5381 if that was the case then it wouldn’t be specifically marketed to younger crowds. Key word is marketing. Older fans may spend the cash but they’re not the target nor should they be. Nor should they ruin it or try to dictate how it flows or what direction it should go in. What’s it gonna take for a lot of these overgrown people to realize that their fanaticism is ruining creativity, artistry, and overall enjoyment of these properties. People love to blame the show runners while simultaneously boxing them into losing situations. I’ll ask a question even though I know I won’t get genuine answer from most people. If you have a child and you and your child both watch the show, do you listen to your child’s opinions on the show or do y’all just dismiss them over your own?
@@Konstant you wont get a genuine answer from us because you're clearly coming here in bad faith and being extremely hostile
@@meganvincent5381 no im not I’m being extremely direct and since I’m not actually being hostile you can’t rely on that to dodge my valid question. I may not get one from YOU but anyone else could answer if the choose to.
Power Rangers works so well when it doesn't talk down to its audience. I feel like this is something that the nick seasons and onward have a terrible problem doing. They constantly talk to the audience as if 5-year-olds are the only ones watching, when that's usually not the case. Secondly, I don't have high hopes when it comes to power rangers moving away from the super sentai/toku in general. The toku aspects of the show are what make power rangers, power rangers. Without it, it's just some generic sci-fi series that tries too hard to be serious and edgy (I'm looking at the 2017 movie specifically). Even if they keep the toku aspects once they move away from adapting sentai footage, the suits are likely never going to be on the same level as the sentai. I find this quite odd, as they've shown that they can make good original costumes and such (i.e., Titanium Ranger, Spirit Rangers, Shogun Mode, etc.). With cosmic fury it appears that they don't even try with the outfits, and it's genuinely sad. I've for real seen fan art that better encapsulates how to add both aspects of the cosmic fury suits and the kyuranger suits in a way that still looks good. Combining recent PR's lack of taking risks, plus the laziness in recent seasons: the future of the show looks quite gray.
Reading why they designed the Cosmic Fury suits the way they did, and saying the Kyuranger suits were too complex for the Hasbro toy design team to me really screams lazy. Like yeah it's smart to reuse molds. They do it with other brands like Transformers all the time, but this to me screams they're being way too cheap. Especially the lack of paint on the chests beside the shield and silver on the side. Seems more like they made these suits because they didn't want to put in a ton of effort on the manufacturing side to save on costs rather than trying to be unique and break away from Sentai. If they really cared about trying to break away from Sentai and appeal to fans with new original suits then they would have put in more effort into their designs. And you know what sucks, they aren't even making all the CF rangers into action figures. So what was even the point? We're only going to get 4 CF rangers as figures. It really just doesn't send a good message from Hasbro who wants to make their own ranger designs. Cause these suits are not a great first impression.
Nahhh Bro, wrote a whole essay
@@FireFury190
"And you know what sucks, they aren't even making all the CF rangers into action figures"
You don't know that.
How do Beast Morphers and Dino Fury "talk down to people"?
"Combining recent PR's lack of taking risks, plus the laziness in recent seasons"
That's a load.
@@dylansharp8471 According to Josh of Tokutopics who's got a lot of insider knowledge, as of now only 4 members of the CF team are being made into basic figures.
"Made for children" what kid is even watching power rangers post samurai. The fanbase never grew from its grown-up fanbase.
Power Rangers as a whole ain’t that popular in the United States overall. Same with people like, what is Power Rangers? “I don’t know what Power Rangers is.”, “Power Rangers? Never heard of it.”
My take on the design through the new costumes is that it just appears to me that they rushed the decision to go with original costumes they didn't put too much thought into what they look like because it was rushed
Why should they even bother making original suits? Why is this on Netflix? Isn't there any remaining channels that allow for more than 10 episodes?
@@hollyredmond8688 There's no remaining channels that want to air PR period. Nick was their last shot and they dumped them. There's no kids blocks on regular channels anymore and of the few remaining kids channels, Disney Nick and CN they don't want live action anymore they'd rather air cheap cartoons all day. As for the original suits, that's an exec decision, they want to move away from just reusing Sentai's stuff mostly because most of the current unadapted Sentai's are unusable by their standards. Either way, unless they get that reboot finally working I think PR will just go the way of Robotech. At least it lasted much much longer.
@@bob1986 How about making it a RUclips exclusive? Like Ultraman (well not exclusive but still)
Probably too much focused on future planning rather than concentrating on what's currently there.
After watching all the episodes, I think they were trying to go for a "star trek" uniform kinda look (simple colors, very little details) whist maybe also trying to pay homage to Jason David Frank in a way (since they all have psudo-vests). Of course idk if that's the case, it could just be lazy design.
I too was blocked by Simon Bennett, mostly because I criticized Hasbro for their handling of the franchise, and that getting rid of him won't do the show any favors, as it would only lead to someone far worse taking the mantle.
JDF also criticised the way the show was being made which saw him divorce himself from the franchise he loved so much.
@@michaelclark7447 wasn't it all because he was done dirty during pre production of the 30th anniversary special? I remember reading that they purposely didn't contact or invite him on the special. Or was that just a rumor?
At the core of this issue is simply the fact that Hasbro does not communicate with the fanbase and has shown very little inclination to respond to their concerns. If they want to focus fully on their reboot, more power to them. But that doesn't mean you just leave everything else out to dry and expect the fans to just sit there patiently and quietly.
At this point, Power Rangers has become an opposite King Midas, everything they touch turns to crap instead of gold
Hasbro has no obligation to communicate with the fanbase, nor respond to their concerns. The fanbase needs to get past it's self-entitlement.
@@aaronthomas6155 you sound like the bootlick type
@@thenowwhatshow4142 And the fact that you had to resort to a pathetic attempt at an insult indicates you have limited intelligence.
@@aaronthomas6155 i mean thats pretty much contradict the purpose of making the show. They make the show to please the fan therefore they get profit and can continue the series and probably build bigger legacy from it...
I think the reason why people are so apprehensive about the show (minus the toxicity) is because the fandom has totally lost faith in the franchise.
After a whole decade of extremely underwhelming show really hurts the franchise. Not to mention the amount of things that are going against Cosmic Fury rn (the toys, the suits, Kyuranger comparisons, King-Ohger comparisons, SAG strikes, 30th PR anniversary,...) lots of things for this series to carry and juggle.
This wouldn't have happened if they just did a traditional adaptation, and gave it actual good writers. Call me an idiot but I'd get Johnathon Tzachor back and get Koichi Sakamoto to do the fights. Tzachor can (Under the right circumstances) give me pure gold.
How where Dino Charge, Beast Morphers, and Dino Fury "underwhelming"? Plenty of fans loved them. No one has lost faith.
@@dylansharp8471 "Plenty" and "love" are a strong word. I don't see anyone suggesting people any of those shows. And let's be honest, compare to what Rider, Sentai and Ultraman are doing, it's not that great.
@@hollyredmond8688 There's not really a traditional adaptation they can use right now. KingOhger the current one is really the only one that can work but that's not even half finished in Japan yet and they can't get to it until well after it's finished and Japan doesn't need the suits anymore
@@hollyredmond8688 I don't think Tzachor has really got it anymore, Samurai/Megaforce made that clear. And while having Sakamoto back would be neat, he's basically working on Ultraman almost all the time at this point, and he seems pretty happy there.
I think the problem is there’s nobody at Hasbro really in charge of the brand right now, so there is nobody to run the marketing for it. Simon Bennett said the production sent a list of things they thought should be kept out of teasers (presumably that list included Heckyl and Fern) but because of layoffs at Hasbro, it went ignored.
There are things I do and don’t like but I don’t go and talk a lot about it because of all the drama involved in talking about it. As for Simon, I think he needs to back off, stop searching his name on Twitter and let the show speak for itself.
Before JDF's passing, he criticised the direction the show was taking and didn't like what he was seeing.
At this point, Power Rangers has become an opposite King Midas, everything they touch turns to crap instead of gold
To me, if Zyato had to change colors, the show runners should have gone with purple for him. Since they are utilizing Kyuranger Mech footage, and the Dragon Mastar is the purple ranger and commander of the team in Kyuranger, it would have been an ideal change of colors to me.
One thing that I think some people forget is that someone (might've been Simon) originally said that the reason they didn't use the Kyuranger suits was because they didn't want to have to write for that many characters.
But I say that you could've still used the kyuranger suits without needing to use all of them.
We later find out that there's at least 9 rangers in this season, 7 fury, 1 mmpr, 1 Dino charge. Meaning the "too many" line was just a lie.
From my perspective, it makes me think the PR team think they can do better than Sentai, which while not always inaccurate, it makes them come across as arrogant, especially with rumours of them completely severing ties with Sentai
I wouldn't have minded if Cosmic Fury was all original, or all Kyuranger, but because they specifically used the zords, but original suits, it makes it come across as more lazy than if they did either or, as it makes them look like they wanted to do completely original, but couldn't be bothered to go the whole way.
If they do sever ties with Sentai, I don't think it'd be for the better, it'd be like if the marvel films decided to only make super hero films completely devoid of anything from their comics.
See... I'd have more trust that they could do it, and that this series would be good, if i hadn't already been burned by Hasbro before, what with being a Magic the Gathering player too. Some of the worst decisions in MTG have been going on in recent years, and guess who became the CEO of Hasbro, former head of Wizards of the Coast. Hasbro's higher-ups don't care about pleasing fanbases, they only care about taking the most amount of profits, this is evident from the shoddy suits, short runtime, terrible zord toy (yet asking for a higher price tag than previous zords). They don't care about power rangers, they just want a big IP name they can monetize to hell. Pay for suits and footage from the company we actively dislike, or make our own cheaper looking suits to sell are cheaper looking toys for a higher price tag.
Funny thing is Amelia would have been the second female red ranger. In SPD, the character Jack was originally planned to be female, but Disney gave a firm no on it. They were hesitant on making A-Squad Ranger, Charlie female. So in a way, Charlie crawled so that Lauren can walk so then Amelia can hopefully run.
It's not running when she has to start as pink.
Actually 3rd
Simon is way too defensive. You can tell he has passion for power rangers but only for HIS version of power rangers. I know it's impossible to cater to a whole fandom but When someone at the helm of a show franchise takes sides and bashes anyone who disagrees it loses fans more so over the attitude he gives off rather than the show. Star wars is a prime example of show runners that drastically turned the franchise into their own version and lost tons of fans. And then on social media attacked even more fans.
@@lithosagymfan I mean like Kathleen Kennedy. Lucas was the full on creator while Simon and Kathleen took over as head of the respective fandoms
@@lithosagymfan that is a better comparison. Basically just anybody that isn't the original creator
I always dislike it when people try to turn a show into something that they think it is rather than what it actually is.
The suit designs remind me of the cheap Halloween super hero costumes with puffy chests… I feel like that design choice will hurt the show.
Man, I'm glad I only use Twitter to see art, being part of this discussions looks exhausting.
I just like to make myself suffer so that's why I'm in it. Help.
I left Twitter since everyone I followed did
I’ve been observing this fandom from the outside for a while now, and I can tell the problem with this community is a combination of entitled man-children who want things exactly their way, and corporate and industry suits who only see PR as childish content.
Pretty much
Imo, Hasbro should make two main Ranger shows, Like Transformers having Energon and Rescue Bots airing at the same time, and set in the same universe, then having completely different target audiences
Every fandom ever?
@@matchesmalone6669 I don't know. It also feels like the companies that handle PR also wanted crap Sentai adaptations.
@@matchesmalone6669That’s because if they move away from Super Sentai counterparts, then people here will be like, “This is not Power Rangers anymore! We want more Super Sentai adaptations! Not original stuff!” They’re already losing source material from Japan.
Genuinely had no idea this kind of discourse was happening in the PR community. It's kinda hilarious, but I'm mostly just sad.
Power Rangers has such a potential to be a driving force in modern pop culture. The characters, the lore, everything in it, is so iconic. How is it so easy for production companies to screw this sort of thing up? They're young actors playing teenagers transforming into super heroes to defeat evil. It shouldn't be anymore complicated than that.
Feels like the showrunners are just out of touch with the general demographic they're aiming for. It made me wince to see the dude in charge had white hair, that's immediately a bad sign.
All you need for a great PR season is likeable characters that the audience can relate to, convincing CGI, and paying homage to where and how the franchise started in the first place. Don't forget your roots, but pave the way for the future. That's what PR has always been about and what longtime fans recognize it for.
This doesn't compare to the negativity the neosaban era faced. Yet you never see neosaban creators and actors acting the way Simon did.
This is still basically Neo-Saban. Same mandates, same 'quality'
The latest super sentai kingohger made for kids but has a mature storyline that even adults like to watch it. It was interesting to watch even for a non sentai fans, you can consider it watch a TV drama
People like kyle higgins and ryan parrot should be in charge of the show. People liie Simon shouldn't be in charge
Give it this, at least Simon Bennett does a better job handling Power Rangers than James Gunn at DC.
@@luisquintero7359But it’s on par with the same studios that are ruining the brand. WB ruining DC, Hasbro ruining Power Rangers due to financial losses.
This was excellent. Voices a lot of concerns and feelings I've had regarding Cosmic Fury, the fandom, certain creatives, etc.
One of my biggest memories of the series was In Space and how it was supposed to be the end of the series. Back then under threat of cancellation they went all out to give the fans the best possible ending that we could be satisfied with had it truly been the end. Starting with Lost Galaxy each season was its own thing but still tied to the previous series with the team up episodes. Each season could have been the last for Power Rangers but that was ok because the full story they wanted to tell got to be told.
10 episodes on Netflix just sounds to me like Power Rangers is going to end with a whimper and not a bang. I know 10 episodes is standard for a Netflix show but it doesn't feel like the story will have room to breathe if they are still your standard 20+ minute episodes. I could very well be wrong I'm just sharing my 2 cents as a fan that lost touch and is a little saddened by the discourse.
I feel the same way.
What was also great, from Turbo up until Saban bought it back, each theme song was different and unique.
As for episode count, I much preferred it when each show was 40 episodes long and changed each year.
If you look at shows like the CG TMNT series, "Star Wars Rebels" the last seasons always tend to have the fewest episodes because it's like the creators can't wait for the current show to end so they can started on the next.
@@michaelclark7447 didn't Zeo have a unique theme too?
@@MarkERoth It did but it still had the "Go Go Power Rangers" bits. "Turbo" was when each song truly came unique.
I don't think zayto has a downgrade because he becomes a special ranger like Tommy. He is not a leader but becomes like a mentor, a powerful ranger status. So this time was done right.
You do you, my guy.
I honestly don't see it as a downgrade either. I understand what MinBari was talking about regarding Zayto and other Red Rangers, but I don't see it as a "downgrade" or mistreated.
TJ, Jack and Zayto were all Red Rangers for their entire season, only stepping down at the end.
Jack is used as a terrible example in this video. His character story ended with him not wanting to be part of SPD and doing something more useful for others as he felt. TJ becoming Blue just kinda happend. He went into space and met up with Andros, who was already the Red Ranger. So it would be kinda odd for TJ to be like "Hey, I was the Red Turbo Ranger on Earth, could I have your morpher?". Yeah, doesn't really make sense huh?
I beg to differ, but you do you.
@@ForrestFox626 care to elaborate?
@@JerseyJoe90 No. I just don't feel like it's an upgrade
The thing i have right now Is that i love the Kyuranger suits and it just feels like a Punch in the gut that they were replaced with the original suits and that will never dee them in power rangers hope that won't come true but still
We could always get the Kyuranger suits in the Boom comics.
@@luisquintero7359 Doesn't count
@@hollyredmond8688what do you mean it doesn’t count? The comics can introduce the Kyurangers in a more complex and take the time to flesh them out properly instead of rushing them out. Plus, the writing in the comics is so well done and a lot more darker and high stakes and more competent than recent Sentai seasons.
@@luisquintero7359 I'm not a comics guy, I alos can't trust them not to change anyone's gender, or keep it close to the source material. 40% original stuff is where I draw the line.
@@hollyredmond8688 how do you not trust the team at Boom Studios. They done such a great job with expanding the lore, a great new take on the tone making it more dark and mature and finally giving us the Dairangers (Squadron). I have no doubt that they’ll somehow adapt the unadapted Sentai teams in the future.
Super Sentai is simply better.
Sentai isn’t good either nowadays. Toei needs to grow up with their older audience instead of trying to appeal to the younger demographic. Lay off the jokes cause in recent seasons, they went overboard with the comedy, especially in Zenkaiger and DonBrothers. Basically Toei needs to Take a page out of the Marvel’s Phase 3 and make their new seasons a lot darker.
@@luisquintero7359never watch zenkaiger since I ended up starting on donbrothers. But because you said recent, I'm gonna have to disagree that recently around that time with donbrothers that super sentai has been cooking and is still continuing to cook even up to boonboomgers. They did not betray the fact that their franchise is for kids but made it incredibly fun and awesome that even I find it cool to watch.
In the case of SPD red Ranger leaving the leadership is more like their own adaptation of dekaranger arc with the red Ranger team.
Curiously i always felt that part in SPD lack of build up but knowing about the problems with time making that season
I think the main gripes with the suits is that it feels like they're not really striving for "iconic". Like simple can be good like the samurai suits.
While PR is made for children i am very very curious how much of the demo are young to middle age adults vs their core demo. I dont really hear people saying their kids watch it usually just other adults (not bad but curious)
For what it's worth, I used to work at a summer camp with kids, and none of them had any interest in Power Rangers. The ones I did ask said something along the lines of "my parents/siblings used to watch it." Anecdotal but still interesting. My theory is that kids don't want to watch kiddy stuff, they want to watch stuff that makes them seem cool/older, hence the need for elevated writing.
How old are these kids? Because 4-7 years olds still seem to love it.@@mintbari
From my household only me n my younger brother watch it and we r beyond the age range and our youngest brother who Is the target demographic has only really seen from Disney till saban none of the new era
You know I just realized something that could have easily solved the Amelia and Zayto color swap issue. Had they adapted the Kyuranger suits then you could have had Amelia be Shishi Red while Zayto is Ho-oh Soldier. And Ho-oh is still a red ranger. Aka it's a win-win scenario. Amelia and Zayto both get to be Red Rangers while you can still have Amelia as a leader. Don't get me wrong I do like Zenith Ranger. It's probably one of my only favorite CF suits due to the unique choice of Champagne Gold as the ranger color. Which is probably one of the few things I'd like to see from fully original ranger teams. More unique ranger colors than the same ones Toei keeps doing. Especially when it comes to 6th rangers constantly being gold and silver most of the time.
You know they can't write ideas that make sense lol
You know what is also an idea that makes sense that they likely might not do. Say that their new Cosmic Zords were originally owned by a previous Power Rangers space team. Seriously that's like the easiest throw-away line the writers could do for Kyuranger fans to say "hey they exist in the PR universe" so that someone else can write their story. I say Jason Bischoff cause he really wanted to do Kyuranger.
Or hell do a more ambitious idea of the Kyurangers being Zedd's new mind-controlled dark rangers. And that is a big hurdle the Cosmic Fury Rangers need to overcome. And the show ends with 22 rangers vs. Zedd's massive monster army.
@@FireFury190 hey would you like to hear my ideas perhaps?
@@hollyredmond8688 Sure go nuts.
@@FireFury190 How about a rewrite to Dino Fury? I'll call it Power Rangers Dino Knights. There's even an actual theme song.
Simon Bennett did recently made a tweet saying he's not a fan of both super sentai and power rangers. Which put the fandom into an uproar.
Why be part of serie you don't like? I know power rangers doesn't make big money
@@gamercow4297 him not being a fan means he doesnt watch it constantly he sitll likes both shows just wouldnt call himself a fan. Plus a lot of writers for shows and movies arent always fans of the franchise they are writing for.
Basically he became the version of Zack Snyder, and Bob Chapek of leaving the franchise.
Personal opinion, I, like all of us, hope Cosmic Fury will surpass our expectations.
It is regrettable that they had a perfect Sentai series that could have been used for a final series of Power Rangers as we know it, that could have easily been used to pay respects to all that came before it as a legacy season... And all they took from it was the zords.
As stated in this video, the suits for Zyuranger were created with Western viewers in mind. On top of that there were characters that when Americanized into Power Rangers, could easily relate to Power Rangers characters of the past. Some of which, I didn't even have answers for when I first came up with this idea a few years back. But the Hasbro seasons have given rise to fill some in.
Lucky the Leo Ranger could easily connect to either of the Red Lion rangers before him. Maybe directly, by connecting him to Leo from Lost Galaxy, or being our tie to Wild Force. I know the latter could be difficult given Cole's actor's... Actions... But Wild Force was still part of the franchise, and deserves inclusion in a legacy series.
Spada as our yellow marlin ranger could directly reference Samurai Blue and his Swordfish zord. Though, it would feel like a bit of a stretch. This is honestly the hardest placement for me. Because I could also see him as our connection to Aquitar, and a reference to the 2017 movie where their first yellow ranger was also from Aquitar.
Hammie could have been or connection to Jungle Fury. A teenage daughter of Jarrod and Camille. We could even start with some tension between her and Lucky as he gets the Leo zord, but she was after it as her father was the Lion Warrior and her mother was the Chameleon Warrior.
Champ is a large robot created by the world's most brilliant scientist... While the Sentai has him being revealed as a mad scientist... This could be how we insert Billy into the series.
Garou is the easiest to explain. Cosmic Fury is coming out 2 years before SPD is set... And Once and Always, earlier this year, had Adam and Aisha in the SPA... Garou could simply be Anubis "Doggie" Kruger. And they could even have the Dekaranger crossover footage be a time travel angle where SPD teamed up with Time Force to give SPA a head start to catch up to 2025.
If we went Wild Force for Lucky, then Stinger could be out Lost Galaxy tie in, coming from the same planet as Scorpius and Trakeena. Also could be fun to tie Scorpina from MMPR together with that same species.
Balance and Naga were originally a hangup for me. But with Beast Morphers, we have a ranger age Gold and Silver Ranger combo that would fit perfectly. This could be the return of Nate and Steel, to help form SPA as part of Grid Battleforce. Nate becoming the Libra ranger to signify his coming to peace with being the creator of Evox, and balancing his life. Steel being the Ophiuchus ranger, represented by a cobra signifying a similar balance as he was originally created as a body for Evox. This is, of course, also out tie-in for RPM.
Raptor, I originally pictured as a late series Alpha model from Edenoi, mostly due to her initial duty as command base assistant... But as I already had a tie to MMPR with Champ and Billy, and possibly connecting Stinger to Scorpina. I have instead decided she could be a surviving Cadet of General Evox's Machine Empire army, that was dejected, but taken in by Adam (in particular because of his connection to both Zeo and the SPA) and Aisha, and turned to join the creation of SPA, and aid in human-machine relations.
Our version of Kotaro could work as a tease on Justin from Turbo, being a child ranger that morphed into an adult sized ranger, also being a blue ranger with the same gimmick, but also having a child sized ranger form. I can even see a scene where there is objection to him becoming a ranger, and Adam, as one of the leaders of SPA saying, "I worked with a child ranger before. It wasn't all bad."
Speaking of leaders, we have Rou. The purple dragon ranger. While I initially had no idea for him, other than bringing Tommy back as a new Dragon Ranger (Rest in peace, JDF). I have a better idea.
We had Rita come back as the Mystic Mother in Mystic Force. And we had Robo-Rita in Once and Always. And we currently have Lord Zedd as resurrected when he was at his strongest as a warrior... But it isn't the REAL Zedd it is his evil essence, same as Robo-Rita... This could be Zedd's humanoid return to take the evil version of himself down... Along with the purple dragon Zord, built from the scraps of Serpentera from the moon after it's destruction in Forever Red.
And what if the reason Rita and Zedd were both mentor roles in this situation... Was because they both contained the essence of Zordon after the Z-Wave.
Which would be released at the end of the series back into his Eltarian humanoid form after the defeats of evil Robo-Rita in Once and Always, and the final evil essence of Lord Zedd. And likely being welcomed into the ranks of the Morphin' Masters as the White Light Morphin' Master (again... RIP, JDF).
And we could see Carla Perez return as a youthful Mystic Mother bringing in a new recruit for the SPA (to Adam's shegrin). A reformed (and transformed) Thraxx. As our connections to Mystic Force and Operation Overdrive. Becoming, of course, the Phoenix Soldier.
We could even work in the current returning role of Mick, as a tech designer for SPA. Even potentially mentioning how he has a nephew named Boom who would be great at his job.
So far we have representation from all three seasons of MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, in Space (with unavoidable mention of the Z-Wave), Lost Galaxy, Time Force, Wild Force, SPD, Mystic Force, Operation Overdrive, RPM, (Maybe) Samurai, Ninja Steel, Beast Morphers, and Dino Fury.
But that leaves missing teams unrepresented. Lightspeed Rescue, Ninja Storm, Dino Thunder, (maybe) Samurai, Megaforce, Super Megaforce (the only Super I will reference as it's own due to change in powers, and Dino Charge... Well, I'm sorry... I can't make everything work... But perhaps we could reference them in episodic villains that join Lord Zedd through the season.
I mean... But that's just how I would handle the 30th anniversary... Especially if it was going to be the end of the Power Rangers series as we know it with Sentai footage.
Pfft it won't it would be another generic slug just like Dino fury.
This is a great breakdown of the entire mess of drama. I think the source was both sides went very emotional about this, even me looking back which I'm not proud off. I do entirely agree on your stance on the matter, and if I have to point out the sole cause of this, it's Hasbro and the absolute lack of communication, and how the only source of info we got are leakers, which fandom already were apprehensive either cause they sounded sus or they were provided by shady scoopers.
And yes, Pooki really needs to stop engaging with this fandom cause even if he has good intentions, it only adds more needless fuel to the fire. This does remind me how James Gunn does online interactions and it's honestly a much better way to go about it. He does QnAs and trivia, but he doesn't go into debates with fans about his work (and trust me, there's this group of people who does tear apart his movies) and whenever he does respond, it's mostly when it comes to rumors and baseless accusations. He clearly knows when it's proper time for engagement and when it's to distance themselves, something that Simon needs to learn.
I could see them trying to make a combined weapon out of the five cosmic fury weapons, but who knows what Hasbro has planned.
This is the season where American-style Tokusatsu goes to die.
Bullshit.
With Zayto, I get the idea since MMPR did it with Tommy, but the suit doesn't convey it properly.
People worry too much about the suits... Just because his suit isn't red, doesn't mean he's getting demoted. Jason, the first Red Rangers, actually got demoted while remaining as the red ranger. TJ may have become the blue space ranger but it wasn't really a demotion. There was already a red space ranger and TJ, having no experience in space, would have been a bad choice to replace him as red ranger. People worry too much about colors. The show is supposed to be about a TEAM....and the actors (and by extension, their characters) understand this fact. The biggest lesson that the show tries to teach is that a TEAM, working together, can overcome anything....
The reason people worry about colors is because of the symbolism and identity associated with them. In the wider pop culture space, even non-power ranger fans know red is the leader. It's not about whether they say it's a demotion or a promotion, they're symbolically stripping away the status by changing the color. Is my interpretation at least. It's the same way people feel pride when they see their country's flag on something. Think of athletes who carry their country's flags around them or have it as part of their uniforms. They don't have to have it, it doesn't affect their performance, but it's an indicator of representation.
@@mintbari But Zayto won´t be the leader, Amelia will!!! But Zayto also was not demoted, he probably is upper the Rangers, a Ranger who works and have powers equivallent to the Morphin Masters!!!! It´s the total opposite of a demotion!!!!
@aaronthomas6155 No. Jason was demoted because by that time, Austin left the show at the time.
@@ForrestFox626 How about actually reading a comment before posting an idiotic response to it? I never stated a reason for Jason being demoted.
Austin St John was actually present for the filming of every episode he appeared in until the Transfer of Power, where Jason, Zack and Trini were written out of the show. For the Transfer of Power, their parts were actually filmed separately from the other actors and the footage was edited to make it look like they were all there together. Rocky, Adam and Aisha were never on set at the same time as Jason, Zack and Trini during MMPR.
this is going to sound mean when i dont intend it to but Simon seems like the kind of person who didnt really have much popularity growing up but now that he suddenly has it, for better or worse, he cant get enough of it and its effecting how he interacts with the community as a whole.
Can you explain what you said
I didn't understand
@@jaminibasumstary1785 He was a bully victim who got their hand on power
I think someone might be projecting a tad.
@@klinkclang I'd believe it
Holy crap, this video takes everything I've personally had a problem with and puts it into words. The editing is absolutely phenomenal! Subbed!!!
Little did you know, I scanned your thoughts at put them onto a script.
Simon Benett doesn’t understand Power Rangers or the fans. Given what he said about it’s Japanese roots, I wouldn’t be surprised if he sends the franchise into failure. It happened with Disney. It happened with Fox. It’ll happen again. I don’t hate female Red Rangers. I hate how this franchise treats fans like idiots. How they treat Power Rangers as just another For Kids franchises. Yet Power Rangers started off in the 90s. We made the show what it was. Without us, Hasbro wouldn’t even have what they have. Nuff said.
"Simon Benett doesn’t understand Power Rangers or the fans"
False. The positive reception to Dino Fury says otherwise.
What did he say exactly? 🤨
Mainly fans can’t trust him anymore after how he treated Cosmic Fury and since he got in from Ninja Steel.
The Actress tweeting acting as if the show can't be criticized cause she worked hard was super Cringe. Bruno from MMPRtoys has always been Power Rangers can do no wrong act is the worst cringe.
I think simon is in the wrong business if he can't take criticism cuz he mentioned once he saw a PR RUclips vid praising dino fury. So I'm sure he has watched the negative vids bashing the show
Notice me Simon, notice me
Power rangers is a moral of the week show. This show isnt for kids. Especially all the sex stuff people want in it.
Yea like why make Cosmic Fury go woke and be like almost TV-14? It’s not suitable obviously. It should’ve always sticked to TV-Y7 all the time.
I'm a bit surprised people see Zayto becoming Zenith as a downgrade. Yeah the color is weird, but it's very much intended that he's achieved something beyond the symbolism of red. He first ascended into a white ranger color, and now he's becoming this new color never seen before. The name Zenith even suggests this evolution. Since recent trailers show him with a Morphin Master staff, it seems he'll get one of the biggest promotions a ranger has ever gotten. That's pretty impressive, imo.
It does leave one question though: is Amelia, despite being a red, the leader if Zayto is in the picture?
my thoughts, zayto is like tommy, tommy as the white ranger was promoted to leader of the rangers, zayto as zenith could also be leader of the rangers
Amelia being made red but seemingly not being a leader is what I would have thought would have sparked more controversy knowing passionate fans
@@1jidion Amelia was also confirmed as the leader!!!! Zayto will the sixth Ranger, with a special new role!!!!
@@imperadorsupremofonsecaex4623 not saying it’s bad, but it kinda sucks that’s true, pushing out the black leader for a woman
@@1jidion well, both are representative!!!! (And we never had a woman being the Red Ranger, and the only and main leader for a Full season!!! xD).
But, actually, not saying it is not important, but see the situation like this is very simplistic, and Zayto and Amélia hadn't their value as characters, and were resumed to their "representative roles". Story-wise, there's a lot of sense in this decision, and you can not say they simply change back to a "conventional status"!!!! :v.
The comics are COOKING right now though, Lord Zedd became a power ranger!
Can confirm
Apathy should be more concerning than negativity. At least with negativity people have to actually care and very passionate
This is the most fair handed take on the whole issue. You should be proud of diligence, effort and, research you put into this video.
12:14 I think the fandom does have some overbearing corners. The other day I saw a PR fan on Facebook posing on top of JDF’s grave. He wasn’t trying to be a prick, but come on, that’s just wrong
You can't "positivity" your way out of cancelation and bad creative direction.
What happened with George junior exactly? This is the first I'm hearing about it and I just saw that his channel is gone.
He got exposed as a groomer and was caught defending child "you know what". In otherwords, Cuties is his favorite movie, and Sound of Freedom is his least favorite.
@@Eddyriderfanwow that's insane 🤦🏻♂️ when did this come out? I feel like I just saw him on RUclips a few weeks ago
@@alexnavarro8196 Just recently actually, people were calling him out left and right and he was blocking everyone while claiming that child "you know what" wasn't hurting anyone and how it's diversity that people need to accept because "they exist". Shortly after that, he left.
@@Eddyriderfan That's dispicable. Hope he never has the opportunity to hurt an innocent child. Thanks for the info
@@alexnavarro8196 You're welcome bro. Same here.
I feel like the mandates royally held back this show for a long time.
Saban should haves known coming back that people don't want mmpr nostalgia, especially for kids who didn't grow up with it and should have been telling stories on the level of In Space/lost galaxy to wild force.
Those shows are what kept the brand alive and reinvigorated it after nearly being cancelled.
Sure an mmpr throwback for the anniversary season would have been cool, but to have it recur throughout the past 12 years has stunted the show so much, when it had the potential to evolve.
I've recently started watching sentai and i do love it, and in some ways yeah i prefer it to PR.
But PR is the show I began on all those years ago, even dipping after the tmnt crossover cause i felt the show was too childish (I was 9-10) at the time, to then catch an episode of lightspeed rescue and being like, ohh the rangers are more adult and aren't talking down to me and sticking with the franchise since
I'm excited for Cosmic fury cause imo, while it has had it's flaws and is nowhere near perfect, Dino fury, especially season 2 was a genuine step back in the right direction and hoping cosmic fury and the reboot follows suit and the show is treated with the respect and creativity it so needs and deserves.
I want a good season, but not at the expense of the sentai.
You say no one wants mmpr yet every mmpr release gets sold out in pre-orders.
Can you really give examples of mmpr stunting the brand? Because disney never promoted mmpr outside of dino thunder yet none of the shows are popular. Popular to hardcore fans, but the average fan don't care about spd or rpm.
I'm speaking in terms of the show and how it was written.
Newcomers didn't want mmpr cause they wouldn't know it, and older fans don't want mmpr elements in what was supposed to be adaptation of Samurai, and there's elements of it throughout the show.
The comedic duo, heavyhanded moral lessons, go go power rangers in every theme as opposed to genuine creativity.
The show felt like all the previous work to make the evolve the show through Saban and Disney just verted to very paint by numbers PR when if it had come back with the mindset of "no, we want PR to be bigger and better than it used to be. Still for younger audiences but with budget, effort and compelling characters
@genxzys142 moral lessons was always in power rangers, it's in almost every media. Most of the direction was nickelodeon. Not purely saban. "Go go power rangers" is a staple of the song, Even hasbro uses it.
It’s a tragedy what happened to Andrew Laing, Dino Fury’s Lord Zedd.
Honestly, Andrew’s Zedd voice improved in Dino Fury Season 2 for me. Sure, he’s no Robert Axelrod, but that’s just VERY unfortunate circumstance; it’s not Andrew’s fault that they chose to revive a legacy character that they couldn’t get the original actor to reprise.
Agreed, it was a tragedy. If I had the choice, I'd have not revived Zedd. Bring him back in the comics, sure, but pull a Simpsons and keep the characters written off the show. Leave them wanting more, not disappointed.
I do regret not adding a sentence or two to say that I did think Andrew's Zedd voice improved in the video. I think it did too.
It's also not his fault they chose a VA who couldn't do a proper copy of Zedd's voice.
have a lot of people complained about Amelia being red? Im not saying there has been no backlash, but most of what ive seen is being excited for it.
Not complained about her being red in a vacuum. It's usually in relation to Zayto. People are more upset that representation has to be one or the other.
I've seen a different take on Amelia Red, Aiyon should've been Red kinda makes sense he is a veteran compared to her.
Hopefully Amelia does a good job as red.
@@andrewshearsby8125 I took it that amelia was made red cause she is a rafkonian plus grew up on earth so understands both races so if the team ever got into an argument, she couldnt be bias
@@arkanamaster4961 good point
good thing that i stopped using twitter
Even if the story is good, everything else for me wouldn't.
Base sound effects that they been using since Samurai and their usual banter in mid combat sour my experience watching it over time.
The suit being essentially blank with silver pad doesn't help either, people could say it not an issue but considering the genre Power Range is in and compare it other similar property like Sentai for example where the majority of them doesn't look like a blank suit that they just brought straight from a costume shop.
Everything add up over time just being a mood killer for me.
Hey, the writing by itself may not tickle everyone's fancy, but it's a start. It'll at least solve half of the issues such as the fight banter you mention. We can deal with bad sound effects for a while, the Disney SFX library was never good either (it's all the same laser sounds). But bad writing can actually break the show.
I would say writing is the biggest gap to fill. But it's not the only one. Music, sound design, choreography, costuming, set design, and a plethora of other issues need addressing. It's just easier to comprehend fixing things one at a time, hence only mentioning the writing.
Appreciate the comment and understand the sentiment that this frustration has been built up over time!
How much I miss the dialogue from In Space through Time Force.
Don't leave out Wild Force. It had some gems. But really, even Overdrive has some dialogue that's better than what we've gotten post Samurai lmao.
Great video!! I’m genuinely excited for the show! The only thing I’ve really criticized this season for was the mid costumes. The Sentai costumes would have been a great treat if this is indeed the final season.
Same here. This show had a lot of problems after multiple rewatches of this show. It feels like CF was on par with Gotham Knights, Batwoman and Velma altogether.
I'm probably gonna be a contrarian compared to everyone else in the comments, but here it goes.
I agree with a lot of what MintBari says in this video, and I am sorry Simon blocked you/He was getting harassed by folks going off the rails, though that doesn't excuse his behavior, mind you.
I've been made privvy to a lot of BTS info & what Simon said isn't inaccurate. It's very likely that when he first saw footage of GoBusters & he saw the the Rabbit Zord hopping around, he laughed not as demeaning it but enjoying it. That's where I think people are taking some of Simon's posts out of context.
Simon should have more tact on social media, I do agree but I think the reason he's doing it is because there's currently no brand manager at Hasbro to do public relations for the fandom & Simon decided to sorta do that with varying degrees of success, obviously.
I am still looking forward to Cosmic Fury, but we are just gonna have to wait & see what happens with the franchise as it takes it's first real break to re-energize itself.
PS: The sort of thing with the break actually has precedent KINDA regarding how between the ending of Black RX in 1989 & the start of Kuuga in 2000? There was no new Rider show, just the movies for Shin, ZO, & J & that was it. That was a 10 year gap between shows for content so, if Rider can survive a drought for 10 years, Power Rangers can survive a likely 2-year break with the comics, games & other fan-created works.
I think you severely underestimated KR's return. While yes, Rider did fell out of relevance in the 90s, the major reason is also because Shotaro Ishinomori passed away during that time, and without his input the series won't be the same.
The revival of the franchise isn't something to take lightly either. If Kuuga wasn't the *MASSIVE* success that it was, the series won't be the same now. Heck even after Kuuga they still struggled to find the right sauce. What's important is that they aren't afraid to reinvent themselves while keeping true to what makes them special.
And i honestly doubt if Power Rangers could do that. For PR to TRUELY comeback they'll need at least HALF of the impact that MMPR created.
Shotaro Ishinomori was alive long enough to be working on the early plans for Kuuga. He just died before those plans were fully finalized and the show was filmed. The real reason Rider fell out of relevance is as time went on Japan saw Kamen Rider as a laughing stock. An old style show that is more often than not parodied than taken seriously. No different than how PR is often treated in the west. Kuuga was made specifically to destroy that image people had of Kamen Rider. And when it came out it succeeded. Reviving Kamen Rider back to the juggernaut it used to be.
@@FireFury190 Even then, would Power Rangers even able to pull off a Kamen Rider Kuuga? Or Ultraman Tiga?
This is something i have major doubts with. Despite Rider and Ultraman going hiatus, they ended things with a bang. KR had Black and RX before the shows stopped, and Ultraman's Showa run is iconic even to today. They've done all they could, and that's why they had to reimagine themselves to comeback. Compare that to PR who clearly doesn't even know what it wants to be, i have much doubts towards the future of these shows.
What does MiniBrat say?
Wow Zeltrax. You’re going off from Kamen Rider huh. Every Rider show was always serious and stayed on its main story. Sure, there could be filler nowadays, but since Kuuga, up til this day during Gotchard, it always stayed in the season’s main story. There was less filler and more seriousness. For Power Rangers though? Won’t be easy since Super Sentai was marked towards kids. I think Power Rangers for the same thing as well. Honestly, transitioning Power Rangers to target to an older audience as TV-14 or TV-MA won’t be appealing and kids will stop watching it mainly because it’s not the OG Power Rangers anymore. (Yeah I’m talking to the 2017 movie as to why it flopped very hard.) Hopefully Power Rangers won’t be on same terms as Marvel or DC is. Otherwise, the brand will have the same vibe.
Thanks for having a more neutral/tame response, and not morally grandstanding or attacking people's character. It's quite a relief, and welcoming. Admittedly I was a bit cautious clicking on it as I've never seen your videos before, and wanted to see what's going on with Power Rangers as I haven't seen it in years.
The Hasbro seasons restored my faith in Power Rangers. The Nick seasons made me quit watching, and trust me i tried every new season but after the fart jokes in Ninja Steel i was done. When I saw we were getting a female Red Ranger as the lead in Cosmic Fury, I paused and went, "You have my attention." I went into Beast Morphers years after it came out with zero expectations and I was blown away. I actually enjoyed Power Rangers again. Dino Fury wasn't as good imo, but I liked it a lot and I'm looking forward to Cosmic Fury. Being excited about Power Rangers coming out with a new season was foreign to me for like 10 years. I'm concerned about this season but also extremely hyped for it.
I also go blocked by the super Chad ultra alpha male Simon Bennet. Expressing an opinion will get yea blocked and labeled a troll
Fun fact about Zayto's actor, Russell Curry, he's actually half Japanese making him the first Asian American red ranger in PR.
Well then, William Shewfelt from Ninja Steel is of Indian, Jordanian, Egyptian, and Filipino descent but he was asked to play a Latin character. Unfortunately, I don't think the casting made the decision with Zayto was on purpose.
He mentioned it on his Instagram a year back
@justinminami31jm23 He's actually a quarter Japanese, close enough I guess. 😂
The Might Morphin' deviated a lot from its original Super Sentai counterpart but it was still beloved due to multitude of different reasons. In fact, in my opinion and experience being a fan of this series and franchise, one of the most famous, arguably most beloved arcs in all Power Rangers Series, "Green with Evil" and "The Green Candle" deviated a lot from its JP counterpart, yet even to this day when I re-watch it as an adult, who also has seen the JP source material, I still love it the way they handled it.
Its not really about following the source material religiously. Many PR fans know and are aware that the shows have always deviated from its source material, its about how they present the show i.e. good story arcs, memorable characters, moments, with a big payoff after a struggle.
To be fair Zayto's color is probably changed because the lead of Kyuranger has an upgrade that turns his suit white and gets an non Red Zord to go with it. Since that's probably most of the Zord fights since they're only having 10 episodes and not a Zord fight every episode so most of the endgame Kyuranger robot fights will be used, that's likely why they did it.
Great video man. I haven’t been engaging with the community as much lately cause I’ve been so busy so I haven’t seen some of the newest pookie tweets and 😬 yeah they’re more rough that before, and I am pessimistic for the season, already feeling that there are some problems from the small bits we’ve seen. That said, I’ll be watching it with an open mind. This is the end of a massive era, even if Power Rangers does come back, it will likely be rebooted which will mean so many differences… here’s to Cosmic Fury being great ⚡️
Here here!
I find this whole thing amusing. Take a look at this from an outside perspective. There are grown adults projecting negative toxicity towards a show about spandex wearing heroes fighting monsters in giant robots that’s marketed towards children. All that aside, I genuinely hope Cosmic Fury does well, and isn’t the last season of Power Rangers, but I understand that all good things must come to an end.
I've dealt with Sentai purists before, and it's infuriating to try and explain why PR does plenty of things well, when they don't listen to what I was trying to say. But, at the same time, PR does so many things poorly, that I can understand where they come from, and why dealing with the "Positive-Posies" is about as bad as the purists. I really hope that Cosmic Fury does well, considering that it's going to be the last "proper" season before the reboot happens, but it's hard to really gauge anything with the trailers (that I refuse to watch any more of because I'd like to go in and be genuinely surprised by how it turns out).
The purists are in my comments a lot and I need to stop myself from calling them out. They're so annoying.
@@mintbari What exactly makes them purists? I just think that the kinda stuff Cosmic Fury is doing, isn't what Power Rangers really should be, that's me.
@@hollyredmond8688What exactly is power rangers for you? MMPR? The neo saban era rehashed MMPR to death, We need unique shows
@@jesusramirezromo2037 Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue, Time Force, and Wild Force are what I want more of out of PR, the Sentai Plot, or at least certain scenes with a new spin on them.
@@hollyredmond8688 Why watch power rangers then?
At that point you'd just be making a direct copy of the Sentai, with just the cultural quirks removed, Like an Anime dub
Power Rangers is always at its best when it does it's own story, Like RPM
I think this steven listen fella might like power rangers guys, just a hunch though
Yeah ive seen the same comment, mainly about ciara Hannah on nearly every pr video as of late
I love this video and your fair, balanced look at the whole situation going on with the show. However, the bit about Andrew Laing came out of nowhere to fans particularly on RangerBoard, and I think the catalyst behind why we thought it was out of left field is because Simon rattled it off in a series of tweets (long since edited) where he mentions things “changed” in Cosmic from Dino, which included “new Zedd VA” and threw “Andrew left from online harassment” in as a reply. Of course, the majority of us had no idea it was happening, so to hear that it happened was an unfortunate surprise. As far as your comments on engagement versus avoidance, it’s VERY HARD to dodge Simon on anywhere, because people love to retweet/quote tweet/screenshot his tweets and post them EVERYWHERE, so unless you go into a cave, you’re going to hear what the man says. You did hit the nail on the head about his sabbaticals, though.
Actually, at 25 minutes, you call it out. That was the tweet that originally mentioned “new Zedd VA” as option 6. He deleted the original one after he got called out for just dropping the bomb about Andrew Laing and reposted it as the version at 25:05.
I actually missed that. Thanks for pointing it out.
I personally didn’t care/like Dino Fury much, its not Megaforce or Ninja Steel levels of cringe, but its just sub par to me. It feels repetitive and even the new stuff they have feels hollow.
What made each PR season from the OG and Disney eras, is that sure they had interconnectivity, but still felt unique and separate from each other, even if they were slight dips comparatively.
I don't think I gotta talk about the "its made for kids" argument, its pretty much lost any power it used to have. I am a fan of Sentai and Kamen Rider, the notion that we shouldn't compare the PR adaptation to its original source material is just absurd, especially when there has been PR seasons that some deem better than their Sentai counterpart.
If people wanna enjoy Cosmic Fury and Dino Fury, that is completely fine by me. I am not here to tell others they aren't allowed to watch these seasons even if i personally think there's better ones already out there.
Its such a cop out to say "you just want a copy and paste", no we want a good story. Wild Force is one of my favourite seasons and imo is much better than Gaoranger, because it just does some things way better. Samurai is one of my least favourite seasons because it disrespects my favourite Sentai, which most fans agree is at least pretty good, but adapts it poorly.
If there's one thing PR should teach us, is we are stronger together and accepting of our differences, than we are alone unable to listen to others
Lauren Shiba is actually proffered over the main Red
No she isn't 😒
Wait I'm sorry what happened with that one youtuber????
He was defending p3d0 art on twitter. He had been doing it for years but many in the community turned a blind eye to it so it was kind of an open secret. Any time people brought it up, he'd deflect and call himself a victim, which people ate up. Thankfully, it didn't work this time lol.
Simon's comments about Sentai and toku really rubbed me the wrong way. And the whole discussion about Sentai holding Power Rangers back. Power Rangers isn't popular because it's adapting Super Sentai which can be seen as cheesy to a portion of people, it's not popular because of how badly the show has been handled in terms of writing, marketing, and distribution. Recently on twitter someone shared a clip Geats 9 vs. Gazer in a conversation about fight choreography in Owl House. And people who aren't toku fans thought it was really cool. Some say it was better than what the MCU was doing. Showing that the tokusatsu style can be appeal to a wider audience, it just needs to be marketed and distributed better. But Toei's handling of Kamen Rider distribution is a different discussion.
Then there's the discussion about Sentai holding PR back in terms of its writing due to the footage. While in some areas I can agree like finding matching locations for footage, past seasons have shown they can work with those limitations. Granted they didn't have those awful Saban mandates but we're talking about future shows. Since Cosmic Fury doesn't have to do those mandates anymore. It'd also be nice if Hasbro cared to give PR more budget to shoot more original footage if some Sentai footage wasn't useable for their story.
And while I'm not against Power Rangers trying to do fully original stuff, that'll only matter if the people in charge actually put in the effort to make it the best it can be. Aka making it better than what Sentai is putting out to make the trade-off worth it. Honestly if Hasbro was willing to have original stuff for older audiences while Sentai adaptations still continued for kids programming then there wouldn't be such a massive fuss in the fandom.
Also, I liked to say; I know there's a lot of toxic fans out there that try to make people like the other thing because they like it. But, this video doesn't do it justice. Because, the only reason why I got into Super Sentai, Kamen Rider and Ultraman. Is because all of the production in the suits are completely original and at least for most of them they actually have a proper story structure which adds to the theming. The only reason why I try to get others to watch it is so I can show them how great these stories are. However, I usually just give them a story synopsis which at the very least would get them a little bit interested but I usually give them the choice if they want to watch it or not. I hate forcing shit on others. But, right here in this video only shows that these drama videos are never going to stop all because of a few things I only hear good things about except for the Zord footage but that's because I find it idiotic that they're not going all out with "Making there own power rangers season." If they're not going to commit to making everything original like they said they're going to do.
This is our future generations everyone! Hollywood laughs at us and insults us and we still give them money. And the people that support them. At least Toei is honest about this stuff. Especially about reusing assets from previous series they have the rights too. They don't fucking lie and shit on their fans for it.
"Recently on twitter someone shared a clip Geats 9 vs. Gazer in a conversation about fight choreography in Owl House"
What now?
I grew up with the original team of Power Rangers and have been a fan of the show throughout its history. I looked forward to the new suits every year, the storylines kept even my parents engaged (my dad loved Time Force), and the music was awesome. They didn’t rely on nostalgia because there was no nostalgia to rely on yet. It’s why PR worked. They HAD to do something new. It wasn’t until Wild Force that we got that first hit of nostalgia. (At the time, Adam’s episode in In Space didn’t feel like nostalgia. Just a part of the story between Carlos and himself). The team up episodes were fun and creative and impacted the story (Lost Galaxy), not an obvious cash grab (even though they were). Forever Red worked because it was a gag for the fandom. It was a one off. It was the cherry atop the dessert after a three course meal, not the whole meal. The problem is they’ve started giving us too many cherries (and with Mega and Super Mega, that’s all we got). Now we can’t go more than 2 seasons without some throwback.
That’s just a symptom of a bigger problem, in my opinion. With each passing era, PR gets sanitized. At this point, it’s become so watered down that it’s become pretty flavorless, so they are “forced” to nostalgia bait to keep people watching. It’s not helped by the fact that since 2011, we’ve only had 6 teams. We’d typically have 13 in this time frame. 6 teams and shorter seasons means fewer storylines and when your writers are writing pretty much nothing but filler for 11 out of the 22 episode season until the team up episode gets here for that nostalgia kick, there’s a problem.
You can see it across the board too. Let’s look at the toy line. There used to be whole sections of PR toys in the store. Now I’m lucky to find more than a few items of questionable quality thrown in with Avengers of all things. No zords, morphers, blasters, weapons, or masks. The only time we get those are at cons, specialty stores, and any time they do an MMPR rerelease.
I feel the Zenith ranger situation could have been so easily resolved if they gave him a "Tommy Like" Chest Plate. Like Red that is a visual that also stuck in our minds!
I do think Amelia becoming red is nice, but now she also has to be a leader. Which luckily seems to hold up. Yet there is also the slippery slope of turning her into a new Rocky. I hope she can lead with Zayto being a "legendary" ranger , coming to their add then the need is most dire, but maybe also having some Solo fights. Similar to the Magna Defender..or as an comparison Flynn (the legendary Librarian) from the Librarians tv show.
I am more excited to watch this show than I would others. With so much in house it is a new era. Now if that era is 10 episodes long , or will provide us content for years to come remains to be seen. Yet that is also part of what makes it exciting. Stakes are higher, so is pressure! We judge more, but that is also because there IS MORE to judge. Costumes and roles are no longer tied to anything, themes and choices are now much free, thus judgable.
That said, Netflix is a fickle Mistress though, if Power Rangers dies, I at least want it to be on the creators! Not because we killed a show's buzz dead before it launched. It's fine to have an opinion on something unreleased but only do the media thing if you are willing to be proven wrong! Otherwise just disengage!
I’m sorry but No, the “representation” was not good at all. Just gonna go into the red ranger debacle for now but Amelia becoming red has issues. Yes she’s the first full time red ranger to lead a season but her costume is partially re used from a previous pink so it’s not even a fully original red, they had to demote Zayto in order to make Amelia red (which was bad in MMPR also), and the acting and story around it was also off in order to build her as the new red IMO.
Overall this is just a forced way to get a female red leader just for the sake of “look look representation!” and this is coming from the guy who loved Janeway as the captain in Star Trek voyager
Feels like it’s an upgrade though, like promotion of leadership. MM had red as the leader until white became the leader, so now he was red now he’s….got a cape
Simon is a creep.
Honestly don't get why people were mad that Simon Laughed at the Sentai footage when he first got on (or the more extreme people calling him Xenophobic)
FFS the first season he adapted was Fucking Ninninger, a comedic (or just loud) Sentai season.
Exactly my thought like I literally just finished rewatching ninninger and it’s the most stupidest sentai ever
I think the main problem is how he wrote it is rather easy to misinterpretate, that's overall another issue is that his choice of words aren't always the best and lead to an absolute clusterf*ck of drama and issues
Bro, it’s because he’s either looking down to Sentai fans or just trying to discriminate the tokusatsu in general. That’s why people are mad at him. I too, was pissed as hell that he actually said that on twitter, therefore he mistreated the franchise.
@@justinyoon2840 For one it was later elaborated on that he wasnt the one who laughed, rather other executives
Second have you not seen this show? It's ridiculous as all hell.
Go outside
@@SpectacularSpiderFan Bruh, I’ve seen most Power Rangers shows especially this comparing to its Japan counterparts. Most of them were bad, some were good. Sure Cosmic Fury was ver bad since it was rushed. There were problems. Go reconsider the hell again.
What was that bit about North Korea?
There used to be this guy named George's Power Ranger Reviews who would cry anytime something involving Amelia came up. Like full on bawl at her. He was really creepy and would make a big fuss if people didn't agree with his opinions on the show. Then he finally got caught for like p3d0 art on twitter and subsequently defended it. People pointed that out previously but he used to use his connections with people involved in the show and larger, unaware PR content creators to garner sympathy.
The North Korea bit was a nod to that, cause they cry a lot lol.
Deviates from the sentai... please Simon, Lost Galaxy has done this, and it was fuckin great and a lot of fans liked so much.
After cosmic fury and legend of the white dragon I may move on from power rangers and create my own. Please make a video of legend of the white dragon for JDF!!!
This sounds like the gundam fanbase whenever a new show, model kit or anything comes out.
New theme song? I think I saw a trailer on Netflix and it was similar if not the same as dino fury, right?
the new theme song literally only uses the "Evolution Revolution Mighty rangers rise!!! Power Rangers Cosmic Fury!" everything else in the song is completely different
@@arkanamaster4961 Okay, I thought I heard the over used go go power ranger format, so it sounded super similar to, even more after the same letter part.
You're reaching if you seriously think that Jack deciding to retire to work more closely with his community is problematic.
This why Super Sentai is better HAHAHAHA
Dino / Cosmic Fury is the Disney Starwars Trilogy of Power Rangers. It retcons some of the most important events & victories of past ranger teams & gives them to the most undeserving of teams. It recycles plot points, characters & elements from better seasons & wastes them.
Most of these PR fans can't admit that they hated the Sequel trilogy, and having Amelia as their Rey would give them a pass, even her resolve was lackluster.
@@MiXVoy Javi should have been the red ranger
12:43 - I don’t think it’s fair to conflate the people calling others ungrateful and shutting other fans down with simply not saying anything negative about the show
The hottest take: New Power rangers suck because there is no driving force save for brainless suits who accept takes from the loudest non fans and think that's what will sell toys.
There was a reason why Tommy was always brought back with it felt like the brand was lagging hard.
should have at least put the trailer at the end of Once and Always
This is what happens when showrunners hate the ip
Honestly, I don't get why people think Zaito is being downgraded, His new form is probably him being closer to be a member of the Morphin Masters
To each their own. The reasoning I had in the video is more the cultural significance that being red ranger has. It's less what his actual role will be, more that the color red has a real world reputation, unlike the new "Zenith Ranger." Ask anyone, even non-fans, what color the leader is and they'll usually say red. I think it's fine to break that convention at times but I think the added pattern that 3 out of 5 reds don't stay in that position adds to the frustration.
@@mintbari the thing is tho, i can understand why its a downgrade for jack and tj since one quit and the other switched to second in command (tho i feel tj moving to blue was really just cause he fits more of MegaBlue's manderisms then MegaRed does so TJ staying as Red tho cool would have clash with the stock footage) Zayto tho went from a red ranger leader type role to a more commander/doggie crugger type role imo. After all he did like die so someone did have to take over zayto's position over those 6 months. Plus Amelia is the best choice since she is both rafkonian and she grew up on earth so understands both races.
@@mintbariZayto's new look feels very White Ranger
Zayto in this show was LEGIT like Zenkaiser Black and it makes sense since both represent their positions as mentors.
I just want to ride out this current wave of power rangers. I have lost interest in PR, but i stick around because I'm a fan of toku. I always give the first episode of a series a try, but I have no expectations. Dino Fury was fun, so Cosmic Fury should be a tolerable ride. Hopefully their is a reboot happening, but I am cautiosly anticipating it. I hope PR can spread its wings and grow and maybe try and become something new. No more mmpr nostalgia, no more sentai adaptions (not what i would've wanted but I trust they know what they are doing), and most importantly give kids something worth watching. I know very few kids who like PR, but I do know kids who love feeling older than they are, and hopefully, the new wave of PR can deliver on that.
But it can only happen with better and more mature writing. Maturity does not have to lead to something edgy. Maturity is about having more emotioinal complexity, and only better writing can make a more mature show happen. I have low hopes, but I hope PR can be better.
Also the new aesthetics need to hold up to what sentai have given us. I'll give the CF suits some leeway, since it's Hasbro's first time, but they should learn what make the sentai designs fun and unique and incorporate what they've learned into their own designs. Hopefully the designs for the reboot don't feel lazy, and the morpher and zords should be fun toys aswell, unless Hasbro decides to get rid of the toku-ness of PR. Let's hope Hasbro knows what they're doing.
MintBari:"Modern media has a lack of representation for certain groups."
Me:"As a black man who's seen representation in modern media for my ethnicity, other ethncities, and even the LGBT, I don't have the time nor the patience to explain why what you just said was b.s. I will however say this. What we have isn't a representation problem. What we have is a marketing problem.
Of which I'd rather not get into, but to be blunt, let's just say corporate big wigs are selective on what they want to be popular in media."
Get back to me when we get a full-time primary Asian red ranger in the show who isn't casted by a technicality. 🙂
I agree. Marketing sucks but two things can be true at once.
I'm not pulling some bechtel test b.s. on PR (even the creator of the bechtel test's favorite film fails the test). Cause it's easy to point out examples of different minority groups in media, the bar for representation is so low that merely casting minorities is what satisfies this for more people. I disagree with that. What modern media lacks in terms of representation is having these characters AND writing them well, not just for "diversity" brownie points. Only reason, as an Asian American, that I haven't clamored for an Asian red in the last decade of Power Rangers is that I would not trust the show to write the character in a competent respectful way. Therefore, it does not satisfy the mark for diversity. If you think my argument is b.s., at least have the courtesy to explain it.
There are a lot of opinions that I have with Cosmic Fury. If you gonna have a female Red Ranger just add a new character, I think it would be less controversial. For some reason I wish Hasbro didn't adapted Kyuranger and call it Cosmic Fury if it just 10 episodes, It can just be Dino Fury with additional episodes like the last 20 episodes of MMPR season 1, but except they are not filler episodes but can be about the Rangers getting their zords back teaming up with past Rangers.
I feel like zayto being the “Champaign” ranger is equivalent to tommy being the white ranger still technically the leader just not the red ranger and Amelia is like 2nd in command as red even though red is technically the leader it’s more of a Rocky situation, he was a red ranger but def not the leader.
I kinda like the idea of going into it dark i feel these days we know too much about what is to come and i want to be surprised
Too bad the few promotional material we got has spoiled a lot of the surprises, according to Simon Bennett.
9:52 Zayto was sick this season and not a downgrade at all.
You're so worried about making race and gender an issue that you failed to realize the old Red Ranger is now a "6th" ranger and will be seen as a leader who got promoted to more of a mentor level. He's not a 6th that got added, he's a 6th that got promoted. So basically, the black character got promoted as did the female character. It's literally a win win for the PC police and you didn't even realize it bc you wanted to virtue signal about what matters more, race or gender. 😂😅😂😅😂😅😂
What gets me about Power Rangers is how much potential it has and how much it squanders. I think it should go the comic route and stop being for children. Are they really selling that many toys to kids these days? I think its people in their late 20s+ buying the $100+ megazords, morphers and figures these days
Knowing American audiences they want kim being dped by putty patrol if they want "adult" oriented rangers.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs No? Again. Look at the comics.
Bro, if Power Rangers go to the comic route, then the brand will be like Marvel and DC. So let Power Rangers be on its own.
@@justinyoon2840 no it won't. Lmfao.
@@WGPhil-uw5cs Bro, it should dude. There’s some people that don’t want to match from the comics and be on its own. Matching it on the same terms as Marvel or DC is hell no.
To be fair Being the red ranger does'nt necessarily make you the leader, Example: time force jen was more of a leader
I thought Zayto is still the leader even after becoming the Zenith Ranger, much like how Tommy is considered the team leader after becoming the White Ranger.