dude, I just have to say, you totally saved my ass with your videos... I have a 92 Johnson 15hp that needed some tlc.... I'm no mechanic, but I do own a service manual and am not stupid... but there are things that I would have NEVER known had I not watched your channel... I especially loved the video on cheap water pump kits... oh my lord, what a difference the factory parts make!... and while all the fish I'll be catching this season won't thank you for your help, I certainly do,,,
Glad you're posting good stuff again buddy. From your officially oldest subscriber. I've still got a gallon of gunk carburetor cleaner waiting for you to pick it up...if you can stand spending time with a geezer...it might rub off!
Love you videos, a few years ago I picked up a 1981 60hp Johnson with a bad stator Ring, I dumped it in paint thinners for a month and eventually got all the epoxy off of it, I then bought new laminated transformer wire and rewound the charging coil and stator coils, I was spot on with the amount of windings to get the correct resistance, I then varnished the whole lot and installed it, it still works, here in SA Johnson parts are hell expensive if you can even find them.
Very informative, that would be interesting to see inside that electric pack maybe you could tell what burnt. Great job. Cheers from Jacksonville Florida 🌞
I really appreciate this video it helped me a whole lot I’m no good with electric stuff I lost spark in both plugs I run a 1985 50 hp Johnson after watching this video I’m pretty sure the “brain box “ is my problem also
Good information. I picked up a 1980? mini speed boat with an old 20HP electric start Chrysler motor. Its missing the power pack and coils and can't find anywhere. I wonder if Johnson power pack and coils can be made to work?
The power pack 100% is easy to check with a $20 DVA adapter and a stevens load adapter! Not sure why you are saying you need to do process of elimination here. These packs should put out 150-200v cranking. you then do the test without the load adapter and if its low, you know its an ignition coil not the pack. same goes for charge and sensor coils. extremely easy to do with the correct tools. Without a DVA adapter you are shooting in the dark! 84' and up had the open stators, no matter if it was manual or electric. i just convert these to open style if the big green stator is out. not spending $400 on a new one when ones from 9.9 -60hp work even better.
Let me throw a curely one at you, please. I have a 78' johnson stinger 75hp, and after about 10 to 15 minutes of running at speed, it drops down to probably 1500 rpm Max. It drops down slowly, too. I thought it was fuel, so I have replaced all the lines and fuel pump. No joy, same shit. Both pots firing, and at trolling speed you wouldn't know there was a problem. Any ideas ? Love your work, brother.
I've got a 1966 Johnson 6hp. I've got good resistance across the coils (6-8,000 ohms) and ~1ohm resistance across the points (cleaned). I get spark across an in-line tester light but not when I hold the plug in the boot and ground it. You ever seen this before?
Love your videos, they’ve helped me restore a 81 Johnson 35hp …MAJOR QUESTION, what do you think would cause a 35hp to idle and rev fine but under load in forward or reverse it has no power , still runs , no misfires or sneezing… just won’t go above 8 and sounds like it’s struggling to push
Hey man, working on a 2002 Johnson 15hp and have a pretty erratic misfire. Changed plugs, replaced the entire fuel system. So I’m going down the path of electronics. I’m watching you test your stator and your getting 454 ohms, mine reads 840. Is that okay still? It does fluctuate when I spin the flywheel by hand. Just don’t want to throw a new power pack at it as I have no sources for used parts here.
interesting you talked about getting that resin out. IT CAN BE DONE lol... baking at the correct temp and it liquifies. The diode that dies in these and the older metal framed packs costs about two dollars. put a good one in and it will never die again. :-) Learned that with the 500 dollar packs from the early 70's.
New motors are just as easy to work on they just have more bullshit which means more cost. They basically run a monopoly where they can sell shit at whatever price they want too
@@SarasotaBayOMC100%. There’s no other reason for the prices. I’ve got 2 motors, a old 1977 Johnson 15hp and a old 1989 Johnson colt 1.2 hp. The impeller for the 1.2hp is about the same cost as the 15. I’ve got a family member with a mariner 60hp and their impeller is about the same too. All 3 are different sizes which should mean different prices due to amount of physical material used. That’s just one example. And unfortunately these companies know we need either the parts or a new motor so there’s really nothing we can do about it unless we just all buy from china and force the change.
Brandon I have a 1992 40 hp Johnson, it won't stop running when the key is off. I replaced the switch, worked a few times and quit. The kill switch won't shut it off either. Help !? Luv your channel. Larry
I am working on a 1973 Evinrude starflite 85 hp. I would love to get your info. Just to have a resource for help if needed. I will pay for your help. I have exhausted all my contacts with no luck finding anyone with boat motor knowledge. I have done carb kits and have reinstalled, new starter, starter selinoid, plugs, fuel pump, and I'm now working on replacing the coil packs. I am having trouble finding any videos messing with coil packs. I have replacements, but the plug wires are too short. Can I just cut those and join that cut wire to appropriate length plug wires? Or I have seen some other coil packs that you install your own plug wires I to them. Can I just twist out the factory installed plug wire and screw my longer ones in?
How about a video of where to find cheap/cheaper service manuals for different motors. Every one I have found is 30-50 bucks. Are there any good places to find second hand manuals?
I have a evinrude 6 horse that has spark on the lower cylinder but none on the top. I have checked the coils and the stator and both seem to be fine. Should I bite the bullet and try a power pack to see if it could be that? Thoughts?
Switch the trigger wires going to the coils; see if the problem moves. Thing is, charge coil is probably working, so it could be the trigger, power-pack, or coil/wiring.
Got a quick question, I have a 1977 Evinrude 90HP.. all 4 cylinders have 92-93 compression.. I get blue smoke when it’s idling but out on the water is runs wide open and perfect.. is the compression something I should be worried about?
Can an outboard run badly with a bad power pack? Lose just two out of six cylinders? Not advance rpms? Show wacky timing? I have had a power pack go but it quit everything. Was just wondering since I have a current problem. Love your videos.
Hi Brandon, I bought a powerpack that came with 5 pins compare with the current 1976 evinrude 9.9hp have 4 pins to the stator. I wonder do u have the manual for the wiring diagram on this powerpack so that I can rewire to use it. Thanks in advance.
Any chance you'll do a video on exactly what's the same and what's different on the power head of those motors. 8 have some intake and reed valve questions
So, how about this challenge... I've got a 1997 Suzuki DT115, 2 Stroke, No Spark on any of the 4 cylinders. I've checked from the battery all the way to the CDI Unit, it's getting voltage to the CDI but the plugs aren't sparking. I'm at the assumption the CDI has gone bad but, the boat ran 2 fine 3 years ago and has done nothing but sat until I got it ready to fire up this year with new fuel and a new battery and its my understanding a CDI usually doesn't go out just sitting so, I pulled the CDI in hopes to get it checked at out local boat shop but he didn't know how to do it so, how should I be able to test the CDI Unit? Multimeter? PS the reason I want to make certain its the CDI UNit is because the CDI Unit is very expensive, I've found them for anywhere from $1700 to $2300 New old Stock and $200-$500 used.
I have a 92 evinrude 9.9 only getting spark on top cylinder, if I swap wires going to coils, the spark follows.. also my trigger coil has some black goop that was around and under it.., have you seen this before?
Power pack is just a CDI, it controls things like timing etc. Ohm out the stator, check wiring and maybe coils, if they are ok you can be pretty sure it's the power pack
I’ve got a 1978 35 hp Johnson that puffs power packs within two hours of running every time the wiring was in bad shape so I rewired everything as best as I could but I’m still using the same wiring plugs. I checked all my grounds and I’m at a loss as to what is causing this expensive problem. Anyone got any advice . Other than buying a new motor!
has to be an issue with a ground or the stator putting out too much voltage. is it pull start or electric? There is a charge coil on the electric start models that is not tehre with pull start. IF electric I would start at that charge coil that is supposed to keep the battery charged up and also look at all your grounds, If there is paint on the post you are grounding to.... remove it to bare metal.
Capacitors life is much shorter than other electrical parts, if CDI has larger capacity capacitors which is the weak parts. Small capacitors are ceramic, durable ever.
maybe take a heat gun and see if you can melt the resin out of the power pack,, its likely just a failed capacitor, or maybe they have a fuse. if the inner circuit board could be fixed, you could just fill in over it with exoxy resin,, ha.,. had a chrysler 85 hp,, it ran great until it blew a hole in the block.,, what happened, It was a very cold night and damp,., I think my carb was iced up and ran the motor lean,
When I bought the boat i took it out first time and it ran good later that day I took it out i had to throttle the gas full and back out of it then throttle it back to full and it was doing good then I let it set for about two or three months and it fell flat on it face and wouldn't run right
dude, I just have to say, you totally saved my ass with your videos... I have a 92 Johnson 15hp that needed some tlc.... I'm no mechanic, but I do own a service manual and am not stupid... but there are things that I would have NEVER known had I not watched your channel... I especially loved the video on cheap water pump kits... oh my lord, what a difference the factory parts make!... and while all the fish I'll be catching this season won't thank you for your help, I certainly do,,,
Glad you're posting good stuff again buddy. From your officially oldest subscriber. I've still got a gallon of gunk carburetor cleaner waiting for you to pick it up...if you can stand spending time with a geezer...it might rub off!
Love you videos, a few years ago I picked up a 1981 60hp Johnson with a bad stator Ring, I dumped it in paint thinners for a month and eventually got all the epoxy off of it, I then bought new laminated transformer wire and rewound the charging coil and stator coils, I was spot on with the amount of windings to get the correct resistance, I then varnished the whole lot and installed it, it still works, here in SA Johnson parts are hell expensive if you can even find them.
Very informative, that would be interesting to see inside that electric pack maybe you could tell what burnt. Great job. Cheers from Jacksonville Florida 🌞
I really appreciate this video it helped me a whole lot I’m no good with electric stuff I lost spark in both plugs I run a 1985 50 hp Johnson after watching this video I’m pretty sure the “brain box “ is my problem also
'I hear you barking big dog' 😆😆 Love it. Thanks for the video!
Good information. I picked up a 1980? mini speed boat with an old 20HP electric start Chrysler motor. Its missing the power pack and coils and can't find anywhere. I wonder if Johnson power pack and coils can be made to work?
Really really good videos man I appreciate it anyways where are you located
The power pack 100% is easy to check with a $20 DVA adapter and a stevens load adapter! Not sure why you are saying you need to do process of elimination here. These packs should put out 150-200v cranking. you then do the test without the load adapter and if its low, you know its an ignition coil not the pack. same goes for charge and sensor coils. extremely easy to do with the correct tools. Without a DVA adapter you are shooting in the dark! 84' and up had the open stators, no matter if it was manual or electric. i just convert these to open style if the big green stator is out. not spending $400 on a new one when ones from 9.9 -60hp work even better.
Let me throw a curely one at you, please. I have a 78' johnson stinger 75hp, and after about 10 to 15 minutes of running at speed, it drops down to probably 1500 rpm Max. It drops down slowly, too. I thought it was fuel, so I have replaced all the lines and fuel pump. No joy, same shit. Both pots firing, and at trolling speed you wouldn't know there was a problem. Any ideas ? Love your work, brother.
I've got a 1966 Johnson 6hp. I've got good resistance across the coils (6-8,000 ohms) and ~1ohm resistance across the points (cleaned). I get spark across an in-line tester light but not when I hold the plug in the boot and ground it. You ever seen this before?
I'd pay whatever you ask for a service manual for a 1987 88hp Johnson, I'm a huge fan of your videos, you are so entertaining and informative!
I have a manual for 88s from 1990 in pdf if you want a copy.
@@frankdouglas9653 that would be appreciated! How would you like to get my info?
Love your videos, they’ve helped me restore a 81 Johnson 35hp …MAJOR QUESTION, what do you think would cause a 35hp to idle and rev fine but under load in forward or reverse it has no power , still runs , no misfires or sneezing… just won’t go above 8 and sounds like it’s struggling to push
Man I’m having the same exact problem with my 40 did you happen to find the problem?
Would absolutely love if you could share the secret😂
Hey man, working on a 2002 Johnson 15hp and have a pretty erratic misfire. Changed plugs, replaced the entire fuel system. So I’m going down the path of electronics. I’m watching you test your stator and your getting 454 ohms, mine reads 840. Is that okay still? It does fluctuate when I spin the flywheel by hand. Just don’t want to throw a new power pack at it as I have no sources for used parts here.
interesting you talked about getting that resin out. IT CAN BE DONE lol... baking at the correct temp and it liquifies. The diode that dies in these and the older metal framed packs costs about two dollars. put a good one in and it will never die again. :-) Learned that with the 500 dollar packs from the early 70's.
If you're going to be hesitant to spend $150 on a power pack to get an old engine running again you obviously haven't priced new motors latel! :)
New motors are just as easy to work on they just have more bullshit which means more cost. They basically run a monopoly where they can sell shit at whatever price they want too
a NOS pack for these are arounf $60-$100. New ones around $85.
@@SarasotaBayOMC100%. There’s no other reason for the prices. I’ve got 2 motors, a old 1977 Johnson 15hp and a old 1989 Johnson colt 1.2 hp. The impeller for the 1.2hp is about the same cost as the 15. I’ve got a family member with a mariner 60hp and their impeller is about the same too. All 3 are different sizes which should mean different prices due to amount of physical material used.
That’s just one example.
And unfortunately these companies know we need either the parts or a new motor so there’s really nothing we can do about it unless we just all buy from china and force the change.
Brandon I have a 1992 40 hp Johnson, it won't stop running when the key is off. I replaced the switch, worked a few times and quit. The kill switch won't shut it off either. Help !? Luv your channel.
Larry
replace the pack if grounding the black/yellow at the pack does nothing
Have a 125HP 1986 US Marine Force - Should I switch it out to a 1978 115 Johnson? The Force has about 150 hours or less.
I would wait until it dies.
I am working on a 1973 Evinrude starflite 85 hp. I would love to get your info. Just to have a resource for help if needed. I will pay for your help. I have exhausted all my contacts with no luck finding anyone with boat motor knowledge. I have done carb kits and have reinstalled, new starter, starter selinoid, plugs, fuel pump, and I'm now working on replacing the coil packs. I am having trouble finding any videos messing with coil packs. I have replacements, but the plug wires are too short. Can I just cut those and join that cut wire to appropriate length plug wires? Or I have seen some other coil packs that you install your own plug wires I to them. Can I just twist out the factory installed plug wire and screw my longer ones in?
I appreciate any guidance you can send my way. You are the best I've seen on RUclips working on these older motors!
Brandon....how can we get in touch with you?...I´ve searched your email but no success
How about a video of where to find cheap/cheaper service manuals for different motors. Every one I have found is 30-50 bucks. Are there any good places to find second hand manuals?
Ebay.
With all the tools you already have, I'm surprised you would not have a DVA extension to plug in your mullti meter. Regards !
Yeahhhh, but I don't really need it.
Don't worry about the 'younger people'. They are generally not the ones who fix old stuff.
I'm one of those young guys who actually loves seeing these old motors run me and my buddy just got his1977 6 hp Johnson going
I have a evinrude 6 horse that has spark on the lower cylinder but none on the top. I have checked the coils and the stator and both seem to be fine. Should I bite the bullet and try a power pack to see if it could be that?
Thoughts?
Switch the trigger wires going to the coils; see if the problem moves.
Thing is, charge coil is probably working, so it could be the trigger, power-pack, or coil/wiring.
Got a quick question, I have a 1977 Evinrude 90HP.. all 4 cylinders have 92-93 compression.. I get blue smoke when it’s idling but out on the water is runs wide open and perfect.. is the compression something I should be worried about?
if it idles well then no, nothing to worry about. all 2 strokes smoke as well if you are using the correct oil at 50:1!
Can an outboard run badly with a bad power pack? Lose just two out of six cylinders? Not advance rpms? Show wacky timing?
I have had a power pack go but it quit everything. Was just wondering since I have a current problem.
Love your videos.
Hi Brandon, I bought a powerpack that came with 5 pins compare with the current 1976 evinrude 9.9hp have 4 pins to the stator. I wonder do u have the manual for the wiring diagram on this powerpack so that I can rewire to use it. Thanks in advance.
you cant. one stator is grounded internally, the other through the pack.
Any chance you'll do a video on exactly what's the same and what's different on the power head of those motors. 8 have some intake and reed valve questions
I* not 8
Brandon do you have a video and evinrude part numbers for a 1993 v4 115hp vro to fuel pump system 14:38
So, how about this challenge... I've got a 1997 Suzuki DT115, 2 Stroke, No Spark on any of the 4 cylinders. I've checked from the battery all the way to the CDI Unit, it's getting voltage to the CDI but the plugs aren't sparking. I'm at the assumption the CDI has gone bad but, the boat ran 2 fine 3 years ago and has done nothing but sat until I got it ready to fire up this year with new fuel and a new battery and its my understanding a CDI usually doesn't go out just sitting so, I pulled the CDI in hopes to get it checked at out local boat shop but he didn't know how to do it so, how should I be able to test the CDI Unit? Multimeter? PS the reason I want to make certain its the CDI UNit is because the CDI Unit is very expensive, I've found them for anywhere from $1700 to $2300 New old Stock and $200-$500 used.
check you kill swiych at the control box. switch ity off, then back on. then check neutral safety switch
@@daddski1 to late, I ripped that Suzuki off of my boat and put a new Tohatsu 115 four stroke on it and I've been cruising LOL
I have a 92 evinrude 9.9 only getting spark on top cylinder, if I swap wires going to coils, the spark follows.. also my trigger coil has some black goop that was around and under it.., have you seen this before?
Yes that means you need a new power pack one side of it is dead!
Gday, what does the power pack actually do?
Would it stop the engine from running full throttle?
Power pack is just a CDI, it controls things like timing etc. Ohm out the stator, check wiring and maybe coils, if they are ok you can be pretty sure it's the power pack
Dva adapters are fairly cheap, Would help a lot.
my cdi has 5 wire plug would testing be the same
What’s sensor coil do?
lol ya know for about thirty bucks you can add a dva adapter to your meter?
I’ve got a 1978 35 hp Johnson that puffs power packs within two hours of running every time the wiring was in bad shape so I rewired everything as best as I could but I’m still using the same wiring plugs. I checked all my grounds and I’m at a loss as to what is causing this expensive problem. Anyone got any advice . Other than buying a new motor!
has to be an issue with a ground or the stator putting out too much voltage. is it pull start or electric? There is a charge coil on the electric start models that is not tehre with pull start. IF electric I would start at that charge coil that is supposed to keep the battery charged up and also look at all your grounds, If there is paint on the post you are grounding to.... remove it to bare metal.
is it a 55975C
Capacitors life is much shorter than other electrical parts, if CDI has larger capacity capacitors which is the weak parts. Small capacitors are ceramic, durable ever.
Mid to late 70s OMC V4s have 1 power pack not 2
sooo lol amazon has power packs for about 60 bucks tat last for years, been using them for a decade now. :-)
maybe take a heat gun and see if you can melt the resin out of the power pack,, its likely just a failed capacitor, or maybe they have a fuse. if the inner circuit board could be fixed, you could just fill in over it with exoxy resin,, ha.,. had a chrysler 85 hp,, it ran great until it blew a hole in the block.,, what happened, It was a very cold night and damp,., I think my carb was iced up and ran the motor lean,
I have some questions to ask you about my 70hp johnson
Shoot
When I bought the boat i took it out first time and it ran good later that day I took it out i had to throttle the gas full and back out of it then throttle it back to full and it was doing good then I let it set for about two or three months and it fell flat on it face and wouldn't run right
@@BrandonsGarage the set 😅about 17 years the guy i bought it from said he changed the starter and cleaned the carbs
@@emmettkeaton3388 go through carbs and do synch n link according to service manual. you do have one, correct?
Would a power pack off a Johnson work on an Evinrude?
young people don't own tools or fix anything, they grew up in disposable age
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I hate omc power packs I truly believe they are designed to fail & they never made a better design