~ RE: Darryl ~ ~ This particular video has caused me once again to ponder why in 2019 so many people of African backgrounds still wholeheartedly embrace the "religions" of their oppressors. This is perhaps a subset of the whole religion and god discussion that might be examined in detail. Cheers, DAVEDJ ~
I've listened to a lot of these, but David has got to be one of the funniest I've ever heard... The fact that he's articulate makes it so deliciously absurd... Beautiful!
Didn't this caller start with .."I'm a skeptic..."? He turns out that he lied and he is a full blown theist. I can't stand dishonest people especially the ones who think that are smart and turn out to be turds.
Omg THANK YOU!! I was thinking this same exact thing. He was so unbelievably ignorant and incapable of actual reason or critical thinking, let alone any real understanding of what the word evidence* means
Yup, that's what bothers me, he started off by stating that he is a skeptic and later in the call "god is goodness", "if god blinks once everything disappears", "I belong to Roman Catholic church" "I have faith"...lol so we got from "I'm skeptic" to "I have faith" :DDD
@@Kapomafioso Agreed. I'm pretty sure faith and skepticism are mutually exclusive. Honestly I wouldn't have such a problem if people would just admit that they're beliefs are held from a desire for them to be true or from fear of what they think the implications are if they're not true It's when they pretend otherwise or try to dishonestly portray their position as if it's based on reason and evidence when they know damn well it isn't
@@Vyral714 You are correct. Skepticism and faith cannot coexist. If you're skeptical, you have no use for bullshit. If you belive things on faith, you cannot be a skeptic.
If God is beyond our scope how are you capable of picking him to be the god you worship? Shouldn't it be impossible to even conceive of him much less believe in him?
@@mattg9036 Ikr! If they don't know the answer to something, "god is beyond our understanding" but yet they know this God in vivid detail. They will say he is love and is so good and this and that. How do you know all that?? Bc that isn't the God of the Bible.
Watching this in 2021 to beat perhaps the longest national quarantine restriction (and is still on) anywhere in the world, Philippines. I am a graduate of a Catholic college. It is in that college where my faith waned and eventually led to my own journey into atheism.
Good god David's laugh... Uggghhh... I can just tell he's a creepy guy based on that alone. Normally the skeptic in me would tell me to not judge based on that alone but I'm willing to go out on a limb on this one.
@@MrOttopants worst in the sense that she is bad at it. Her entire approach is high school book report style. She is not capable of absorbing the material, just quoting it.
If I were a Christian, and I felt that I needed to lie in order to justify by belief, that would definitely set alarm bells off in my head. I wonder if David ever gave a thought to this, and if not, why not?
There’s no way David has regular meetings with anyone. Anyone who has met him would make sure it never happened again. And the bishop layed hands on him. He should report that.
I left a science meetup group precisely because of people like this. The leader of the group said, "Oh *I* completely understand the brain" and so i asked, "then where is your nobel prize?" and when i left, i never returned. Hubris pisses me off more than almost anything and David is *soaking* in it.
In all the years of listening to theists talk their tripe I think most would agree that the claim made here about proofs is the most outlandish of them all. @28:15.
David, you got it exactly backwards: With an all-powerful, all-knowing god you have to live in the “well-oiled machine“ because everything is dictated and known upfront by god. Only without that god, purpose and morality are put into our hands, giving us freedom.
David is hilarious. He’s attributing details and aspects to a thing he can’t actually demonstrate and has ZERO reason to believe exists. Holy. Fucking. Shit. Bravo! 😂 🤦♂️ 👌
In these conversations, Matt doesn’t do enough work to distinguish between local presentation of space time and the cosmos. He really needs to dig in on this more bc even after he mentions the distinction, callers tend to plow right on ahead talking about the universe as though it’s everything that could possibly be while ignoring potential multiverse models
There is no such place as He'll, just bad people. We all die and have no soul, just a living brain that dies with you. Live your life as best you can, and make an effort to make someone's day pleasant.
Theists should be barred from seeking medical attention when they fall sick. They can pray whilst intelligent useful humans seek scientifically tested medical assistance.
I like that book. But his assertion that Pike predicted 3 world wars in that book was false. That “prediction” is from a letter that someone said existed but there has never been any evidence it existed. It’s simply a conspiracy theory, usually leading to antisemitism - hence him saying Albert Pike was Jewish as if it had anything to do with anything…when it doesn’t have anything to do with anything
Did Darryl say he can prove that atheism is a religion? Atheism is literally the opposite of religion. Religion is simply belief in a god. Atheism is the lack of that belief. Nice try skippy
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
"ask" is actually the more recent perversion of older versions of the word that had the "k" and "s" phonemes reversed. they're technically more correct if you consider the original version the "right" one.
Ok,"god has to be perfect because the cause cannot be greater than what caused it" Where is the obvious answer to this.... That implies that he thinks the Universe is as close to perfection as is possible without being actually perfect.... What the fuck justification do you have to claim the universe is so close to perfection?
What’s extra insane is his reasoning for believing that - because the result can’t be greater than the cause. Which means if god wasn’t a person, David being a person would mean he’s greater than god. Meaning, he thinks being a person is greater than any other form! It’s just typical anthropocentric arrogance
Pre-Constantine Christians (ooooh.): - Must warn you they are P-CC -use fancy words they absoLUTely dont understand. -interrupt you 6 words into your answer (not awaiting the full "dissertation") and be gracious about him being incapable of answering the question -be opaque; but astounded they misunderstood you ...
1:12 Joshua, what if you told him he doesn't really believe God exists. Nobody really does that's why they cry at funerals, cause there is no heaven. Why do you save for the future God does not want you to store up your treasures on earth. You could point to a whole host of things that demonstrate his denial of belief to show how ridiculous his position is.
It’s very powerful, convincing and biased and assumed. Another Assumptivist. Assumptivist - a person that has accepted a thing as true or as certain to happen, without proof or sufficient proof. Deductive reasoning is for forming a hypothesis. Inductive is for coming to a conclusion for a theory. This seems like a very smug person who’s head is so far up his but he can’t smell anything else.
There’s some great videos by a Rabbi named Michael Skobal who rips Christianity apart using the Tanakh/Old Testament. One of the things he points out though, with various verses, is that sacrifice was NOT necessary for the forgiveness of sins (A common misconception, which Matt apparently held) But what’s great about this is that it undermines the whole of Christian doctrine. Just makes the whole thing moot. The Rabbi has many other great points too.
David is insane. I am an atheist. I would go as far as saying I'm nearly a gnostic atheist for most gods. And yet I seriously do not believe in hard determinism. In fact, I can't imagine how anyone with a reasonable knowledge of physics can be a hard determinist. If you know about Heisenberg, you can't accept hard determinism.
@@bikeshop2002 since you obviously didn't pay attention to the video to understand why I commented as i did, I'm not about to waste my time trying to explain it, when it's actually quite clear
If David thinks his theorised hard determinism is a problem for atheists, then what about for Chistians? Ephesians 1:11 unambiguously claims hard determinism. Which makes any effort to seek heaven 100% futile.
Hey david: Words are hard 🥺 Small mouth noises aren't very good at conveying information for dialoguing "It seems that so many people have been beaten into theistic puddles of broken confusion that religion has become a huge "easy bake oven" for them that turns out "food for thought" that has been burnt and distorted into unrecognizable drool." You can lead a religious person to reason But you can't make him think.
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In regards to Patrick, I am almost sure we could develop an AI routine that could accurately predict someone's IQ by their tone and rate of speech.
David confuses wishful thinking about the supernatural for logic and reason. Lots do. The woo-woo in his tum-tum definitely isn't logic, reason, or the perfect god he was so nervous about trying to explain when he made up his lies.
Darryl seems uneducated (or UNDER educated), smug where it is not deserved, and just an overall JERK. Another little tool who wants so,so,so badly to come off as more educated than he is, but fails at each turn when he attempts it. This is why using terms, words, and phrases you do not understand is a very bad idea. It was obvious that the host were somewhat humoring him, until he got too smug. I hope someone can tell poor Darryl how ridiculous he looks before he does much more damage.
Theists love to use "greater" as a catch all lie. They say great as in god is great. Then say great, meaning better. Then they say great, as in good. They will say god is great then say god is good and not bad because great is good
Darryl is the reason so many people stay in religion, because they don't step back from the religion and see what do we have here. Also i think he is very dishonest and arrogant, Matt should have let him stay on the phone so the world can see what a christian look like. also these religious people are so brainwash, you have Darrel talking about he is a pre Constantine christian, what is going on in there heads.
Causality is an emergent property of a sufficient large system, and does not apply to quantum system. The universe was small enough from start to have been a quantum system. Therefore causality does not apply to the universe when it started.
Wow, Joe's first call and Patrick's first call in the same show. Joe has a small mind and loves to ask questions about morality while he never answers what he actually believes when it comes to details. He always comes from the angle that he's "just asking questions". He always has host explain morality and never actually listens. He just says that "I just think morality needs to be objective", even after showing there is none. No matter what they say during the call he will just say they didn't answer him and ignores what they say.
I laughed aloud when John said, "are you a vegetable"?
After Darryl stated that he was not an animal.
Who took mineral off the table?
David - I'm skeptic and I have studied physics - but believe in god without evidence and have no clue on physics.
David in Montreal... The most punch-able laugh ever.
Hi, my name's Darryl, and this is my brother Larry, and my other brother Larry.
David is the perfect illustration of how the bible tells people to turn off their brains
Well, he uses his brain pretty actively, it’s just busy with one thing: rationalizing.
"Either there is an infinite regress, or there isn't. If not, there is a first cause."
Sneaky way to smuggle a false dichotomy into a true dichotomy.
~ RE: Darryl ~ ~ This particular video has caused me once again to ponder why in 2019 so many people of African backgrounds still wholeheartedly embrace the "religions" of their oppressors. This is perhaps a subset of the whole religion and god discussion that might be examined in detail. Cheers, DAVEDJ ~
Because that's how they were raised up. Its simple.
It was a way for them to survive, to get through oppression. Today, the decendants, like everybody else, are indoctrinated.
why does white america embrace a jewish supremacist religion.
I think that's how they've largely survived.
you can ask the same question of women
I've listened to a lot of these, but David has got to be one of the funniest I've ever heard... The fact that he's articulate makes it so deliciously absurd... Beautiful!
IF David's IFS and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
Didn't this caller start with .."I'm a skeptic..."? He turns out that he lied and he is a full blown theist. I can't stand dishonest people especially the ones who think that are smart and turn out to be turds.
Omg THANK YOU!! I was thinking this same exact thing. He was so unbelievably ignorant and incapable of actual reason or critical thinking, let alone any real understanding of what the word evidence* means
Yup, that's what bothers me, he started off by stating that he is a skeptic and later in the call "god is goodness", "if god blinks once everything disappears", "I belong to Roman Catholic church" "I have faith"...lol so we got from "I'm skeptic" to "I have faith" :DDD
@@Kapomafioso Agreed. I'm pretty sure faith and skepticism are mutually exclusive. Honestly I wouldn't have such a problem if people would just admit that they're beliefs are held from a desire for them to be true or from fear of what they think the implications are if they're not true
It's when they pretend otherwise or try to dishonestly portray their position as if it's based on reason and evidence when they know damn well it isn't
@@Vyral714 You are correct. Skepticism and faith cannot coexist. If you're skeptical, you have no use for bullshit. If you belive things on faith, you cannot be a skeptic.
He's still calling in under a bunch of different names, and he's changed his voice a little.
If God is beyond our scope how are you capable of picking him to be the god you worship? Shouldn't it be impossible to even conceive of him much less believe in him?
"God is beyond our scope, but I know everything about him"
@@mattg9036 Ikr! If they don't know the answer to something, "god is beyond our understanding" but yet they know this God in vivid detail. They will say he is love and is so good and this and that. How do you know all that?? Bc that isn't the God of the Bible.
Specially Special Pleading
😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
David keeps saying, '... I know this... I know that... I know...' No, David, you don't know. You're just making shit up.
Is this David the same as Canadian Catholic and several other names. Darryl is why I left Florida and never looked back.
Watching this in 2021 to beat perhaps the longest national quarantine restriction (and is still on) anywhere in the world, Philippines.
I am a graduate of a Catholic college. It is in that college where my faith waned and eventually led to my own journey into atheism.
There are dozens of frustrated comments about each of 4 callers.
So...good show.
My middle name is David...i now want to change it!
me too!
It’s okay don’t let one dumbass sully the name you just keep being you!!!
John’s, “are you a vegetable” - one of the more underrated comments!
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! He's not just sitting in his arm chair doing philosophy, people. David belongs to the Roman Catholic church.
“Revealed truths.” Hahahaha. I read your comment right as he said that… must be divine comedy.
Damn, slam dunk. Why didn't he lead with that. Would have been a much shorter call.
_"belongs to..."_
Pretty much. Mind and body.
Hahahaha
He’s part of the Knights Templar.🙄
I love it when people like David who try showing their intellect get their asses handed to them.
Yes it is necessary and I applaud AE hosts for doing this!!
Finally, an episode I haven't seen yet.
So David’s “evidence” for the supernatural is his lies about atheists.😏
Darryl 😂 that is a mighty high horse you are sitting on
Good god David's laugh... Uggghhh... I can just tell he's a creepy guy based on that alone. Normally the skeptic in me would tell me to not judge based on that alone but I'm willing to go out on a limb on this one.
Is David related to Stephanie? They both have that trademarked snide laughing. Arrogance from dishonesty...
I think David is related to Stupid
@@MrOttopants worst in the sense that she is bad at it. Her entire approach is high school book report style. She is not capable of absorbing the material, just quoting it.
Yes arrogance and smug!
Hmm. I miss Jeff Dee. I wish he would be on the show more often.
David is not a physicist
he's a pretend one who has imaginary friends
If I were a Christian, and I felt that I needed to lie in order to justify by belief, that would definitely set alarm bells off in my head. I wonder if David ever gave a thought to this, and if not, why not?
He did finally admit it's all based on 'faith' - no physics, science or reality there whatsoever!
I are one dem dar fizzasists. Hardi har dar dar.
David was an ignorant asshole though.
There’s no way David has regular meetings with anyone.
Anyone who has met him would make sure it never happened again.
And the bishop layed hands on him. He should report that.
I left a science meetup group precisely because of people like this. The leader of the group said, "Oh *I* completely understand the brain" and so i asked, "then where is your nobel prize?" and when i left, i never returned. Hubris pisses me off more than almost anything and David is *soaking* in it.
In all the years of listening to theists talk their tripe I think most would agree that the claim made here about proofs is the most outlandish of them all.
@28:15.
Magic man with properties that are beyond the influence of that which governs everything else, is the answer.
- David
David must be a prank caller.
Matt Dillahunty and Christopher Hitchens is the G.O.A.T.
“When the bishop put his hands on me”. Just weird wording when talking about the Catholic Church.
David, you got it exactly backwards: With an all-powerful, all-knowing god you have to live in the “well-oiled machine“ because everything is dictated and known upfront by god. Only without that god, purpose and morality are put into our hands, giving us freedom.
"I'm not a quantum physicist"
and neither is david
David is Jordan Peterson's brother.
Way to insult David.
David is hilarious. He’s attributing details and aspects to a thing he can’t actually demonstrate and has ZERO reason to believe exists. Holy. Fucking. Shit.
Bravo! 😂 🤦♂️ 👌
David did not study physics or if he did, he failed badly.
He went to Liberty University where studying physics means reading the Bible.
In these conversations, Matt doesn’t do enough work to distinguish between local presentation of space time and the cosmos. He really needs to dig in on this more bc even after he mentions the distinction, callers tend to plow right on ahead talking about the universe as though it’s everything that could possibly be while ignoring potential multiverse models
So David belongs to the Roman Catholic Church....Says it all really.
David’s smug laugh is so unnerving
David thinks bald assed assertions are facts and laws. He can make a claim without evidence, and because he made that claim, it must be true.
It's 2021 now and I noticed that there aren't so many loonies on the line anymore. Must be the call screeners and the way they pick them nowadays.
There is no such place as He'll, just bad people. We all die and have no soul, just a living brain that dies with you. Live your life as best you can, and make an effort to make someone's day pleasant.
Darryl: the word is BESTIALITY. Look it up in your 'pre-constatine ' dictionary. (It's also 'ASKED,' not 'AXED.')
Theists should be barred from seeking medical attention when they fall sick. They can pray whilst intelligent useful humans seek scientifically tested medical assistance.
57:00 you don't believe you're an animal? Are you a vegetable? Lol
my response to david is yes and so what?
Plot twist, Patrick is Forrest Gump.
What did Forrest ever do to you?
Matt in a good mood! Lol
Thanks Darryl, Albert Pike's 1871 book 'Morals and Dogma of Scottish Freemasonry' is definitely on my TBR list now. Lol.
I like that book. But his assertion that Pike predicted 3 world wars in that book was false. That “prediction” is from a letter that someone said existed but there has never been any evidence it existed. It’s simply a conspiracy theory, usually leading to antisemitism - hence him saying Albert Pike was Jewish as if it had anything to do with anything…when it doesn’t have anything to do with anything
What happens when you want to ax a question, but you only have a hatchet?
Don't expect an asnwer.
Ha ha ha
You chip away at it the best you can.
David, you don't make atheists nervous, your arrogance annoys us to no end.
There is no prohibition against suicide in the bible. (fact)
Welcome to this week's episode of The Heliocentric Experience
Did Darryl say he can prove that atheism is a religion?
Atheism is literally the opposite of religion.
Religion is simply belief in a god. Atheism is the lack of that belief.
Nice try skippy
I am always confused why theists like Darryl always bring religion or faith down in an attempt to say atheist have faith or atheism is religion
david often phones in using the name Canadian Catholic, Edward, etc with the same scripted questions and nervous laugh.
I feel like I just heard him pretending a Swedish accent in another call on another episode.... he can't put an accent on that stupid fucking laugh.
He must be joking I hope for his sake 😂😂😂
If the god of the bible had been portrayed as a king instead of a God , he would be remembered as the most evil, mass murdering, tyrannical dictator of all time! Christians give the bible god a free pass because, they say, he is god the creator. I don't see the difference whether man or god. If his actions were evil or immoral, as the bible states, then he'd be just as guilty of being evil as any human committing the same deeds.
Damn this comment deserves about a hundred more likes
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I'm probably bigoted and jaded, but it's hard for me to take someone seriously when they say "axe" instead of ""ask".
Avoid the Southern US, then, for your sanity. I hear it so often I’ve stopped noticing it, myself, until I read your comment.
"ask" is actually the more recent perversion of older versions of the word that had the "k" and "s" phonemes reversed. they're technically more correct if you consider the original version the "right" one.
“The Bishop that laid his hands on me.”
Supposition is not fact, its opinion and subject each ones reality as they see it.
Ok,"god has to be perfect because the cause cannot be greater than what caused it"
Where is the obvious answer to this.... That implies that he thinks the Universe is as close to perfection as is possible without being actually perfect.... What the fuck justification do you have to claim the universe is so close to perfection?
Wow, Darryl is really a
Creative Unique Natural Talent.
David, Montreal. He reached another level of arrogance based on ignorance. He can't possibly real. This must be a prank call. Nobody is that dumb.
David is a bit "special" A priest definitely laid his holy hands on him.
Baptized in the spirit of Father Johns dong.
@@phatkatracing and David has walked a little funny ever since...but, he is a believer.
Look, if when you talk, you sound like Patrick, stop saying things out loud, forever.
Matt: your god is a person? How do you know that?
Caller: cause im a person.
😂🤡😂🤡😂
What’s extra insane is his reasoning for believing that - because the result can’t be greater than the cause. Which means if god wasn’t a person, David being a person would mean he’s greater than god. Meaning, he thinks being a person is greater than any other form!
It’s just typical anthropocentric arrogance
Pre-Constantine Christians (ooooh.):
- Must warn you they are P-CC
-use fancy words they absoLUTely dont understand.
-interrupt you 6 words into your answer (not awaiting the full "dissertation") and be gracious about him being incapable of answering the question
-be opaque; but astounded they misunderstood you
...
David started OK but the longer he talked the more I wanted to yell 'PULL OUT! PULL OUT!'
That's so goddamn funny, you can hear michael laugh when Matt says 'when you die you sleep with your fathers, 1:34:00
David is a very basic thinker who thinks hes a genius...
1:00:00 Darrel sounds like Kermit the Frog lol
1:12 Joshua, what if you told him he doesn't really believe God exists. Nobody really does that's why they cry at funerals, cause there is no heaven. Why do you save for the future God does not want you to store up your treasures on earth. You could point to a whole host of things that demonstrate his denial of belief to show how ridiculous his position is.
It’s very powerful, convincing and biased and assumed. Another Assumptivist. Assumptivist - a person that has accepted a thing as true or as certain to happen, without proof or sufficient proof.
Deductive reasoning is for forming a hypothesis. Inductive is for coming to a conclusion for a theory. This seems like a very smug person who’s head is so far up his but he can’t smell anything else.
So you believe in the stories because you like them. Stop wasting your time David.
If everything has a sufficient cause, then what is god's sufficient cause? Defeated by his own argument.
David talked alot and said nothing
David's laugh is more annoying than Don's.
Well don’s is just a personality vocal tic David’s is arrogance and smug
Principle of sufficient reason🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@billneu hence the laughter
There’s some great videos by a Rabbi named Michael Skobal who rips Christianity apart using the Tanakh/Old Testament.
One of the things he points out though, with various verses, is that sacrifice was NOT necessary for the forgiveness of sins (A common misconception, which Matt apparently held)
But what’s great about this is that it undermines the whole of Christian doctrine. Just makes the whole thing moot.
The Rabbi has many other great points too.
I hate it when someone axes a question.
Jeeeeesus Darryl's pompousness is teeth knashingly frustrating
Darryl thinks atheism is a religion. Theism isn't a religion, it's just belief in a god.
David is insane. I am an atheist. I would go as far as saying I'm nearly a gnostic atheist for most gods.
And yet I seriously do not believe in hard determinism. In fact, I can't imagine how anyone with a reasonable knowledge of physics can be a hard determinist. If you know about Heisenberg, you can't accept hard determinism.
@@bikeshop2002 since you obviously didn't pay attention to the video to understand why I commented as i did, I'm not about to waste my time trying to explain it, when it's actually quite clear
If David thinks his theorised hard determinism is a problem for atheists, then what about for Chistians? Ephesians 1:11 unambiguously claims hard determinism.
Which makes any effort to seek heaven 100% futile.
Eventually I knew the smugness would come out. Athiest uncomfortable with determinism? Smh
Hey david:
Words are hard 🥺
Small mouth noises aren't very good at conveying information for dialoguing
"It seems that so many people have been beaten into theistic puddles of broken confusion that religion has become a huge "easy bake oven" for them that turns out "food for thought" that has been burnt and distorted into unrecognizable drool."
You can lead a religious person to reason
But you can't make him think.
In regards to Patrick, I am almost sure we could develop an AI routine that could accurately predict someone's IQ by their tone and rate of speech.
Oh dear! The level of hubris exhibited by people who on the whole sound intoxicated and incapable of rational thought is depressing.
Effect can't be greater than cause? Seems this quantum physicist has never heard of stars or thermonuclear devices.
How is it possible to be that confident and smug with a 100% B.S. argument?
God is a blinking agent cool 😎
David confuses wishful thinking about the supernatural for logic and reason. Lots do.
The woo-woo in his tum-tum definitely isn't logic, reason, or the perfect god he was so nervous about trying to explain when he made up his lies.
Darryl seems uneducated (or UNDER educated), smug where it is not deserved, and just an overall JERK. Another little tool who wants so,so,so badly to come off as more educated than he is, but fails at each turn when he attempts it. This is why using terms, words, and phrases you do not understand is a very bad idea. It was obvious that the host were somewhat humoring him, until he got too smug. I hope someone can tell poor Darryl how ridiculous he looks before he does much more damage.
Theists love to use "greater" as a catch all lie. They say great as in god is great. Then say great, meaning better. Then they say great, as in good.
They will say god is great then say god is good and not bad because great is good
God is the universe, God is everything. Remember that when you pee in the toilet.
Darryl is the reason so many people stay in religion, because they don't step back from the religion and see what do we have here. Also i think he is very dishonest and arrogant, Matt should have let him stay on the phone so the world can see what a christian look like. also these religious people are so brainwash, you have Darrel talking about he is a pre Constantine christian, what is going on in there heads.
Causality is an emergent property of a sufficient large system, and does not apply to quantum system. The universe was small enough from start to have been a quantum system. Therefore causality does not apply to the universe when it started.
Wow, Joe's first call and Patrick's first call in the same show. Joe has a small mind and loves to ask questions about morality while he never answers what he actually believes when it comes to details. He always comes from the angle that he's "just asking questions". He always has host explain morality and never actually listens. He just says that "I just think morality needs to be objective", even after showing there is none. No matter what they say during the call he will just say they didn't answer him and ignores what they say.