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As a guy that built 2 computers on carpet; I'm more worried about losing screws than I am about static electricity.
Lol i m more worried about my back
Underrated
@@naoton201 Yeah it's OK I lost feeling in my back after building the 1st one
@@samuelvtg7905 SAME I was hunched for hours!!!
i use my foot to find the screws
Static electricity isn't very much of a problem anymore, Linus tech tips did a test and tried to get the most static electricity and shock the components, but nothing happened, and he even used a taser on it that has a much stronger shock than a static shock could ever have and it did shut down the PC, but then he turned it back on and it worked perfectly fine.
Because they used high end shit /
Electroboom
JaystwoCents tested it too without expensive equipment, they made static the normal way and zapped a computer that was turned on 👀
@@rezz5570 expensive components
It still is very much a issue while components are better protected today. CPUs and ram modules alone also same with m.2 ssds for example are not that well protected on their own often having exposed traces or pads, probe points, and solder joints. While some components like motherboards have in certain places more ESD protection built-in (one example being gigabytes lan guard years and years ago offering 25kv protection for lan) most ESD damage does not manifest itself right away. Most of the time it degrades and or shortens the lifespan of the component and does not cause immediate major failure. With ram modules it may or may not cause immediate failure but it may Increase the number of errors being produced. There is a reason Intel and AMD as well as Samsung and others still use ESD mitigating practices producing and shipping components of all types. 3000v is the threshold of what you can typically feel for a shock. Little as 10v to the right trace or component can damage them. Even if it's not immediately noticeable. These effects overtime may turn something that you would never notice or be able to really test for into a full on failure or a degraded component. I would also like to add that while components are also being produced on more and more dense process nodes the voltage tolerance drops like a rock as well. ESD usually is a high enough voltage to damage stuff reguardless but it's not helped along by the fact that stuff is so much more dense now. There is less insulator between different interconnects and transistors of all types.
I’d think any tiny pieces like screws would be the worst problem with carpet
Nah if you accidentally shock the computer with static electricity, you can damage parts of the computer
@@grumpers4136 1 it was just a joke, 2 im speaking from lack of experience
Nope. Wrong !
@@grumpers4136 nah Linus did a test basically trying to get as much static energy applied to a computer and even then the computer was fine. He even shocked it with a taser and it was still fine. This has t really been a problem for PCs for about a decade
If the carpet had pieces of very thin copper wire, too thin and small to actually feel like copper wire, then building up static electricty might not be as much of a problem as there would be less potential difference between the carpet and the componemts of the pc. But of course, this type of carpet would be expensive and pretty pointless to install in to ur home for puropses like this unless u have mountains of money.
"if you want to build a pc, first, you need a table"
-verge 2019
Then you need an anti-static bracelet
*Shows a fricking rubber band with no wire to ground*
@@novalyfe69 "Thats not fighting static, thats fighting cancer!" -Asian PC dude
@@broodingsoap9469 Lyle* 🙂
@@FezCaliph :)
@@novalyfe69 "It's a good thing he has a What Would Jesus Do? bracelet on otherwise he'd be screwed"
I built pcs in my old apartment that only had carpet, I stood there naked and wearing slides like a psychopath
what 🤨
@@mjkb0566 to prevent static
0w0
"I stood there naked [...] like a psychopath"
I'm using this in my epitaph
this is my favorite comment
yes there’s still coating on the components that repels static but all that anti static stuff is just for maximum caution
They don't do coatings on pc hardware man. If any of the leads get exposed to static it could damage it. Coating is only for the Medical industry pretty much. Usually a clas 2 ipc norm.
@@bachmed00 most of the sensitive parts (like ram) nowadays have plenty of ground on them. You'd have to be pretty unlucky for static to kill a dimm, but it's always better to be safe than sorry.
@@egg_addict It's not just the ram man. Cpu's are also very sensitive. It might not destroy it but i could cause some sector failure. But you are right.
@@bachmed00 it's called conformal coating many motherboards do have conformal coating applied when being built. Many not all typically your higher end consumer grade boards and many of your enterprise boards have it though. Either way there is also the solder mask. However neither fully protects against ESD damage since the coating could be uneven , damaged (abrasion) or the shock could arrive from a external source such as up a cable or a person or object coming in contact with the case , front or rear panel IO, and yes while chassis should always be ground it is possible to generate so much of a charge that being in proximity to electronics that are poorly shielded can cause them to malfunction , shutoff , flicker, ect. It is also possible to generate enough charge that touching a running computer chassis also causes issue though it takes quite a charge. It's possible though. Common fault there is generating a massive static charge then touching something plugged into a USB port and that item and the port even if they technically work after it can cause the object to be disconnected for one example
@@egg_addictnot quite true while ground for the most part have somewhat been improved as far as protection goes. 3000v is typically what would be considered threshold or so for what you can feel for a static shock. (It does vary a little) while semiconductors and logic circuits can be damaged with as little as 10V of discharge. Think about it your ddr4 runs at 1.35v or under typically with some people running up to or a bit over 1.55v sometimes. 10v + can damage the ram or a CPU. Thing is most of the time the minor shocks or even a few major ones won't damage the component enough for the issue to manifest itself in a immediately noticeable way. Sometimes it can outright kill a part but that's rare In comparison to the damage that blows a couple holes or erodes a few internal interconnects. Yet doesn't immediately show other then in some cases might make a difference with overclocking or shorten a components lifespan though it's not most of the time immediately noticeable. There is some shielding and circuitry on modern boards to help absorb some shocks up to a few KV. Gigabyte for example years ago was including 25kv shock protection on LAN on mainstream boards where to a degree the board would be somewhat protected. This is just one example. However these systems are not fool proof or perfectly protective as well as it's pretty easy to exceed the limited shock protection boards have. Also that protection does no good if the cpu or ram is damaged when being installed for example
I like to build my pc in my bathtub to ensure 0 electrostatic interference, it’s also nice to put screws in the soap holders. 👍
Oh and then boot it once it's filled with water to get the forbidden bath bomb
water cooled
Tbh I expected the second half of this comment to ve something cheeky like 'it's also nice to give the components a bath :)'. That being said solid advice
I tried this and I fucking died
I can't even tell if thia is serious or a joke anymore
Guy that sells carpets here:
Static electricity isn't much of a problem anymore. Most carpets today, especialy ones madevout of Polypropylen posess anti static properties.
Next time you buy a a carpet, just ask the salesman about it, it's pretty rad
Imagine selling carpets
@@yoshikagekira1260 Someone’s got to
@@andy-em5tp*fluffs carpet* this bad boy makes no static electricity
@@framation.design you just sold me, future carpet salesman right here
@@yoshikagekira1260 No matter what job, a job is a job and that's better than nothing
“Carpet is well known for creating static electricity” and here I thought it was well known for being on your floors😂
Who would waste good carpet on a floor though? I use it for my ceilings instead🤣
@@alexmattucci8507 ikr! It works really well on my ceiling too
@@dr_sniping3504 y'all use it on your ceiling? I use it on my roof. It's cheaper than shingles.
He didn't say most known for.
I’ve built almost 6 PCs on carpet, with no grounding strap, the only thing that happened is I lost screws, that’s more annoying than the pc dying lol
grounding straps are useless, just plug in your psu and touch it once in a while
I've lost screws in the carpet too but wasn't going to mention it, why is everyone in the comments talking about losing screws just like the top comment? Perhaps everyone is stealing the top comment to get likes.
@@archive8080 d!dkfs
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You: *not spreading the cooling paste*
Me: *visually stressed* this is fine.
>cooling paste
Who tf spreads the thermal paste?
As a builder, I watch this channel when I want to experience pain.
Thank you.
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Honestly I lost all fear of static electricity when I watched xQc drag his caseless computer across the ground.
Who's xqc
Nvm searched him up
@@bigslime2868 some random
@@afraid2letgo blasphemy
@@yurilopes420 fan of xqc lolll
@@afraid2letgo not necessarily a fan, i dont tune into his streams, i just think he's funny af, also he's like the biggest streamer atm, so hardly a random
ESD(electro static discharge) causes latent defects as in it will shorten the lifespan. It doesn't completely fry the components. Using esd protection measures at a factory cost a decent amount of money. They wouldn't do it if it wasn't a real problem.
"All right, so first you will need a table." -The Verge pc build
I mean, he technically was right; You do need a table to build a PC xD
@@ncg_n2076 or build it on the floor
@@g76agi Wouldn't recommend that as you could lose some small parts (screws).
@@ncg_n2076 no shrap Sherloque.
@@velxcity07 No shock sharpneck
"What better than carpets..... Do it on your bed. You can sleep and continue tmr"
Static will rarely damage your components nowadays, BUT it is still possible, so you should still take precautions like this in mind.
Latent problems can happen though. Static can decrease the life expectancy of your parts. Be careful with that. You don’t want to need to spend 2000 on a 3060 yet.
If I remember correctly static electricity won't instantly kill your computer, however it doesn't mean that it doesn't damage components on the microscopic level and shorten its lifespan or cause a difference undetectable by a human looking at it for just a few minutes and with no control to compare it to
Always use the mobo box 👍 it's the perfect size for a mobo.
Yup! Even if I'm building on a table, I still assemble the motherboard components on the box. If nothing else, it gets the box out of the way!
i'm confused why people think static will kill device immediately. its not what happen most of the time. what usually happen, its create micro crack on chip which will degrade component and make it die faster.
No, this is just wrong, whereas yes, it usually won’t kill, but it overvolts the system and/or shorts stuff out
@@notserpmale03 no for most case. most chip already has esd protection inside. but it still not perfect can still damage chip. and esd has very little energy. see this video for information ruclips.net/video/bWXNOemu2j4/видео.html . company does not waste money on ESD protection for nothing.
@@muhammadsalmangalileo945 yes rad protection exists, but no it doesn’t cause fractures
@@notserpmale03 it does. fracture on the internal track of the chip.
@@notserpmale03 no this is wrong
You can’t touch only the psu for grounding yourself. You need a groundend pice without color varnish on it. Then ur 100% safe.
I just stick a fork into the thing and it works fine
@@soggymilk3271 oh yeah it's big brain time
I saw someone trying to ground themselves on the PSU and it wasn't even plugged in 🤷
@@Kholaslittlespot1 lmao
Depends on the PSU. Most PSU's have paint that is able to pass some amount of electricity through it, as pc cases are usually grounded due to safety reasons.
You can touch the little screw that holds the outlet cover on the wall, to remove all of your static buildup before touching components too.
In the 80's and early 90's this was a much bigger issue as far as computer component hardiness and tolerance.
This ain’t the 90s anymore, static electricity risk is way overblown for modern components
Preventing static charge is a very easy precaution to take. Even if it's really hard to damage modern components using static electricity, there is still a small chance. Never hurts to be a little careful.
The chances of killing a modern component with static is low *but never zero*
@@ei.. yea and you are probably the guy who unplugs their pc when there is lightning storm.
@@essomatic I do recommend doing that. I didnt, and first time I had a thunderstorm when I had my PC it wouldn't turn on,it said no output. It did work later in the day, but it was damn scary not knowing if I had just lost my new PC. Then it happened again. It might just be me but I really recommend unplugging in a thunderstorm, just in case. Better safe than sorry!
@@essomatic if lightning strikes any part of the power grid your pc wont be saved. the surge protectors that are on the grid has a delay after lightning strikes, allowing the high voltage to destroy your electronics that are sensitive.
Please learn the difference between insulative, dissipative and conductive. A wooden table is highly insulative.
Thank god. Assembling my first PC this weekend and static was a huge concern. Glad to know it's unfounded.
Bruh, I've spent around 4 hours looking for an anti static bracelet.
Theres no static charge if nothings moving around. Also a sample size of 1 is basically 0. Its just best practice to stay grounded, not that hard tbh
Not true components or materials left magically hovering in the air straight out of Harry Potter would still have the potential to generate and store at the very least a surface charge due to air currents and particulates in the air. Unless you store components in a environment with next to 0 particulates down to the nano scale + in a complete vacuum it's a risk. Even then in the presence of a large magnetic field there can still be a induced current. 3000v is the typical threshold to feel a static shock. 10v is enough to damage a component
@@Onewolfoc interesesting, but lets just not assume hes building a pc in a neodynium magnet. Carpet isnt electricly conductive, the carpet wont kill the board but you building up electric charge with your socks.
Also while 10v may be enough in theory, modern electronics are often a lot more robust, check out ltt + electrobooms video about this topic.
@@D3nn1s Ive watched that hack of a video. While that are fairly robust from express critical failure they are still damage prone via ESD. As process nodes get more dense this situation does not improve either. In fact voltage tolerance drops. It's a bunch of people coming up with mostly the wrong conclusion from that video. ESD damage is a very real thing it most of the time doesn't manifest itself in a particularly noticeable way. Most of the time it causes component degradation not outright failure. It may for example cause a ram module to produce more errors then normal but not enough to produce a significant enough problem that it would be noticed or noticed quickly. It can also degrade a CPU or component to the point that it no longer does a given Frequency at a given voltage. You could also damage cache and cause more errors. Most of the time the damage done is not goona cause damage immediately noticeable to the end user. The damage is done at a scale that is quite small and hard to imagine. How many people at their houses have Scanning electron microscopes? I have formal training with electronics and low and high voltage systems. What you seem to be arguing for is much akin to saying "oh well I am 1000 miles past my oil change due date but let me get one now" well your oil is going to be more dirty and your more likely to be running off filter bypass meaning your engine is being subjected to more wear and while that's extremely unlikely to manifest itself with noticeable (immediate) failure that does not mean damage was not done. This is a simple analog to the issue as hand. It is really simple to put in place atleast some ESD mitigating practices when you build at home. Such as try not to build with socks on carpet , get a antistatic mat to build on and ground it properly , or at the very least wear a $1.50 ESD wrist strap with the proper resistance to protect you in the case of a electrical fault. Arguing otherwise is sorta daft in the sense that yea while many people are right that most of the damage is hardly noticeable that somehow makes it right? Or better ? When some even mild basic mitigating practices are so widely and cheaply available and very very very well documented to the point anyone that had and understood the basic couple day course in their elementary school science class on what is electricity can understand , put into practice, and mitigate some ESD damage to components with almost 0 dollar/euro investment. If we use a automobile as a analog again people generally understand that regularly gently washing your car helps prevent corrosion or that they just spent 20,000 on this new car and there is some basic cheap things they can do to protect it. Like giving it a proper waxing. This is akin to people spending several hundred to several thousand on components and then not going the extra half step to somewhat trying to even the slightest bit protect those components when building with them. I don't understand how anyone makes the argument that is a good idea or that it's fine cause XYZ. Sure it's your money do with it what you will but for those of us who also buy 2nd hand parts for overclocking hobbies i would highly recommend and very much appreciate most people using their brain a little more and expend a slight tiny amount of effort into protecting those components before I buy them. It's the case of if everyone or atleast the majority of people did this one small thing things would be better overall
@@Onewolfoc aight got it, thank you and great analogies. Actually im a second hand kinda guy myself and i did indeed buy antistatic bracelets when i bought my pc. Tho i have to admit that when e.g. changing my gpu or m.2 i didnt use them. To be fair we dont have carpet in our house and i made sure i was grounded.
All i meant to say is that this one video example is stupid and while electronics can take more of a beating than some might think, we should absoluetely make the best efford to ensure we have a safe working environment.
This gives off "the verge" energy
That power supply be like: bomb planted
I've built every computer I've ever built directly on carpet.
There is a lot of esd filtering going on inside the components so the risk is low but still wouldn't try this.
The problem with static electricity is that the damage isn't always detectable by immediate failure of components. Static damage severely decrease the life of electronics. I've seen working electronic components put under a microscope where the damage is very obvious. Just because you can't see the damage with your eyes doesn't mean its not there.
Lol i literally built my main pc on a blanket
Gaming carpet moment
the chance of static electricity breaking your components or affecting them in any way is diminishingly small but it doesn't mean there aren't cases where static electricity hasn't broken components so it's still a good idea to take some precautionary steps like building on a table instead of on the carpet.
Yeah I definitely didn't watch the video and had to read a comment explaining what I didn't see.
Thanks I guess..
“...a hard, *_non_* insulated surface...”
That doesn’t sound right
It is right, a non insulated surface makes sure you have grounding. This allows the static electricity built up in your body to flow to ground, rather than than discharging it into your components, thus damaging them.
I love your Smiley Vesa mount!
I was expecting a jump scare with the computer just exploding at the end
esd tends to hurt components in the long run depending on the component. Also, always touch a psu on a non-painted section. Test this by ohm probing from the ground pin to the psu if unsure. you can also touch a mobo screw. I build with a special plug that has only internal connections to ground and always keep it plugged in.
I mean i just shuve a screwdriver in the bottom plug in a power point and run a wire from it to me (please dont do this)
No damage, not yet
Static Electricity : AM I A JOKE ????????
The reason that linus also concluded that it's really hard to kill components with ESD is that like almost half the pins on components like ram and cpu and a large surface of the motherboard is ground. On ram and cpu the ground pins are spread out evenly between data pins so in most cases the distance between a data pin and a charged surface will be the same with that of a ground pin. And since electrons prefer a path with least resistance they will choose the ground pins to jump onto and safely discharge.
I still remembered My friend who used the verge pc building method and he didn’t used that live long bracelets and died because of the static energies …
Yep, those wireless ESD bracelets are awesome! That must be why so many people where them
I always laugh at people who are scared and use those wristbands and all the other crap you can get.
While I personally never build a pc on carpet, I've never had any esd protection bands or whatever. I just plop everything onto my desk and build.
I personally haven't built a PC on carpet either... although I've never built a PC at all 😂
Me who builds PC for other people and uses straps: 🥲
why would you laugh at it? an anti static strap is like £5, a small price to pay to prevent damage (however unlikely) to a £3000 computer
@@Jonn0_ A price I won't pay for something so insignificant and useless with modern technology.
@@GoodOlTazzy prevention is almost always better than the cure.
It's seems like music in this vid is from Nolan's movie 😂
That early transition was CLEAN 🥶
My friend: why are you so good in minecraft speedrunning?
My other friend: He has good gaming chair
Me: shows them my gaming carpet
I have a carpet floor in my room and thats where ive built my pcs at and have never had problems. Your parts have a very low chance of even dying from ESD.
Again.... As someone who has formal training you haven't had immediately noticeable damage YET. 3000v is the typical threshold to feel a static discharge aka a shock. 10v to the right spot can damage it. It most of the time won't be immediately noticeable when holes are blown through a insulator or internal interconnects are damaged. However the damage was still done. This may only manifest itself years later in the components lifespan or it may degrade it so it no longer can do particular settings or frequency at a given voltage. Another way it can manifest itself is via causing the component to generate more errors then it normally would have. It might still seem to function normally and it may do so for many years but damage was done
@@Onewolfoc have you seen the video Linus tech tips did with electro boom the electrician and science channel? They did a video testing esd with ram. It was damn near impossible to hit the right spots on purpose. Every time it was on accident not to mention after multiple discharges in a row and they used an esd gun which they ramped pretty fricken high
@@Onewolfoc also JayzTwoCents has a video were they tried purposely killing components and never got them to die
@@cheetobambito9724 The issue is that all it takes is that one screw up. Like I said before most of the time the damage does not manifest itself as a critical end user noticeable critical failure. That still does not mean serious damage is not being done. When it costs so little and takes so little effort to put into place atleast basic ESD mitigating practices when building at home there is no reason not to. It does not take a rocket scientist to pull it off either anyone that understood their elementary school science class couple day course on electricity would understand what is going on here and how to have mitigating practices put in place to help. What everyone here keeps arguing for is akin to telling everyone to change their oil 1000 or 2000 miles after the specified interval meaning your much more likely in that case to being running off oil filter bypass allowing more particulate matter to run through the bearings as well as other places in the engine not to mention the oil will have broken down more within that time period. Damage from doing this would almost never manifest itself right away with a critical engine failure however the damage would still be done. This is a good analog to the situation with ESD we are talking about. It is easy and cheap to try and build on surfaces that produce less charge, takes almost no effort to change into some clothing that doesn't generate as much of a charge either , takes little effort to take off a pair of socks on carpet if you have to build on carpet. It costs like $1.25 for a wrist strap that you connect to ground to help dissipate a charge. It takes less then 10 min to test and ensure that wrist strap was installed properly. This is not rocket science and it takes so little effort or brains to accomplish atleast the most basic forms of ESD mitigating practices. Arguing that it's fine to build systems while blowing holes in the ICs is fine and all of that's your money then use it however you want. However if your going to resell the parts down the line people like me who also love overclocking as a hobby would appreciate people taking atleast basic precautions trying to somewhat mitigate damage. Also as process nodes get ever more dense ESD and voltage tolerance just goes down.
@@brandi8907 and that somehow makes it better? If we want to use that logical fallacy then I suggest you stop changing your vehicles engine oil and trans filters on time (assuming it's a auto like most vehicles on the road are) cause well ya ya know changing those past the correct interval often never manifests itself in a critical and rapid failure so by that logic it must be fine....also if you want to quote jaystwocents whom like a few others puts out some somewhat questionable content from time to time. He also has a video showing a Logitech edition Hermon miller embody chair that produces such a crazy charge that being near to monitors , USB devices, and just around the computer causes The monitors to restart , USB devices to connect and disconnect. Just imagine if you actually touch something then. ESD is a real issue Intel , Samsung , amd , ect would not pay millions each year for ESD mitigating flooring , shoes/booties, wrist straps and work benches that are properly grounded , ect they would also not pay tons for ESD mitigating packaging to ship components. I have formal high and low voltage electronics training with classes I sat through taking the same ones on logic circuits and types of transistors , ect that electrical engineers would take. Feel free to abuse components you buy however you want but please do not spread misinformation about ESD. It is so easy to put into practice even basic mitigating practices, takes almost 0 effort to try and build on a flooring material that produces a bit less charge , takes so little effort to take your static generating fuzzy socks off, how about not wearing that fuzzy tracksuit and wearing some different clothes that don't produce a huge charge every 2 seconds.... It costs like $1.25 to get a wrist strap with a good resistor and connect it to ground to help discharge you and your clothes. Even if you can't afford a good cheap antistatic build mat for a bench/table (about 70 - 100 bucks) atleast wear a strap - of you can't afford one return like 20 pop bottles at the store now you can go buy a strap. These practices would not leave you with a perfect ESD free work space but it would somewhat lessen how much and how often you would be shocking components. Like I said it's about mitigating the damage as much as possible. This is all extremely well documented stuff and anyone that understood the basic couple day course in science class about what is electricity and how does it work they had back in elementary school would understand how to implement this stuff. There is no logical way you can argue for not putting atleast a minimal amount of effort into trying to reduce how much damage you do when handling these components. People spend a couple grand to tens of thousands or more on a car and they for the most part understand that there is regular matainence that should be done on time... There is also basic stuff you can do to help protect the paint like a a good correctly applied wax. People also spend hundreds to thousands on computer components and try and kill them every chance they get with ESD and powerline surges.
The verge: write that down write that down!
Instructions unclear, fork in outlet did not work to get rid of static charge
you need to care about how you put thermal paste instead of static
Go watch gamers nexus fool. It doesn’t matter. Get educated!
A lot of parts come with ESD protection these days, but I still had a friend who shocked his motherboard because he built on his carpet. Always make sure there’s no static build up when you’re building.
I did the same thing last time as well.
Please make sure you're always careful.
The carpet gave me anxiety. The way you applied the thermal paste gave me an aneurysm. Great short!
It’s more comforting for the pc parts as they merge into one beast
i don’t understand this whole static thing i built my pc on my bed with no ground strap and it works stoll
Just because it may break doesnt mean it will.
Just because i can steer my car with my feet doesnt mean i should.
@@D3nn1s i think people take it to serious lol i spilled water on one of my old dell small form factor pcs and just blew it off and turned it back on people don’t realize they are pretty strong
@@ampexxxtreme5387 you should watch the video from ltt with electroboom. Yeah electronics are very robust, still no need to take a chance of ruining them tho.
Like i said, sample size 0, theres a reason big tech companies use antistatic bags, so why not place the mobo on its bag?
@@ampexxxtreme5387 that's a entirely different form of damage. Water on a pcb without being powered is not a threat short when powered can be esp if 5 or 12 v is shorted to a low voltage rail such as vccsa or vccio or something else. You can literally discharge , unplug , pull the cmos battery and wash a motherboard with water and scrub lightly with a toothbrush, let it dry and power it up again and it will work totally fine. The issue is when there is water (with particulates and IONs in it) that shorts traces or any other point of contact with another. That is when damage can and will occur. Now on the theoretical side pure water is actually a very good insulator however quickly it would pick up small particles and ions and become conductive
I worked at hp fixing laptops and they had those static bracelets at every table but the boss told us it really doesn’t matter if you use it he’s static shocked a lot of motherboards and nothing happens, but I still used it because I felt cooler
Cooler and safer my friend. Use it just in case.
@@proxyhx2075 thats what I was thinking lowkey like is this guy saying it doesnt matter so he can have a reason to get pissed at me later lmao
That is a damn clean carpet
I like how you refer to the carpet as a proper noun
Ignores the industry rule of latent static. Just because everything is working, it doesn’t mean you didn’t cause damage. Never EVER build on a carpet.
no damage
yet
No ltt did a video on this with electro boom and shot it over and over with direct static electricity with a static electricity gun and no immediate damage occurred so the slight bit of static won’t do anything
That should be amended to " no noticeable damage yet" damage has without much of a doubt occured. It just has not been serious enough to obviously manifest itself.
CPU cases: "So uh... why am I still here anyway?"
These what if videos always gives me anxiety. I always use my hard desk to edit my computer components with wearing rubber gloves.
What happens when you build a pc on carpet
My mind: boom
There’s a great collab by Linus tech tips and electroboom that tests this and they try to break the pc
The charge on the components is mostly neutral. As long as the caps aren't energized while you're building, nothing should splode. Even running your psu on the carpet should be fine because it's grounded.
Instructions unclear, my house is on fire rn
For those who don’t know the thing he was talking about when he said grounding is when you use the power source plugged into the outlet to remove the static electricity from his body
What I was expecting
“See, no damage to the computer from the static electricity on the carpet.”
*BAM!!!*
Should also note that it may function but it could be damaged a little, just enough that is causes small issues that are harder to find than fully bricked parts
The heat will burn the carpet, then entire house. 😂 😂 😂
You need your Livestrong bracelet for that
I built PCs on carpet for 10 years, not even putting the motherboard on carpet, just having the case lying on carpet and people already complained.
My father has been building his PCs on carpet for at least 20 years (That's as far back as I can remember) and he never damaged anything.
It's because the engineers design the boards and the components with ESD protection like TVS diodes. The design is tested to withstand higher energy pulses that your your average ESD discharge from your finger. They literally test it with a device that creates sparks as long as 2cms. It's much harder to damage components let a lone an assembled PCBs with proper ESD protection that it was 25years ago. I remember when first FETs could be killed by simply touching the component. It didn't even had to spark. As low as 30volts from your charged body killed a J-FET when you touched it's gate. Nowadays the components are much more forgiving (except some high frequency stuff where it's harder to design an ESD protection)
Problem with electro static shocks being introduced to things such as sensitive pc components is, that their life time could be reduced minimally or drastically, depending on how strong the shocks are, or how many shocks it gets.
If a shock is induced, it burns a super microscopic hole into the component, said whole will get bigger overtime when using the pc, to the paint where the hole reaches important parts of the circuit board, causing it to fail.
Why does this guy sounds exactly like fireship
Your computer might not break then, but it can later.
Capacitors, diodes...etc are sensitive components....etc.
Just because it runs at normal at the start doesn't mean there wasn't any damage.
Pc gods “you got lucky this time”
Static electricity is more of a problem when friction is involved
Also you could go the traditional route and use a friggin case!!!
The problem is, the damage by static charge is small but might have reduced the lifespan of the components. It will work fine but the problems might first start after a year of usage, and at that time you don't know what is causing instability. Some components can only handle 1.8v or max 5v if you shock it with 1000v volt it will never come out unharmed.
I SOOO bad want a "building a computer in all kind of places" series now!😂 Please tell me someone is doing that!!!
This guy breaking myths ❤
When I clicked on this short it bugged and the audio started talking about using cheese for thermal paste.
When his spare gpu is better then ur main gpu 😔
ESD doesn't always show up immediately. There's a chance down the line during use that it will fail due to static that damaged it when assembled.
In reality it is extremely unlikely that just putting a component on a carpet is going to do anything 🤷♂️
Death speedrun any%
It can still happen. After 20yrs building it happened to me yesterday. 3yr old build that had always worked perfectly. Worked on it quickly on the floor of the carpeted office and zapped it at some point. Won’t post with all the same parts and leds complaining of cpu and ram. Transferred the drives which all still work along with the lights fans etc. I thought it couldn’t happen because it never had. Just take the precaution and don’t gamble with your money. Costs you nothing to be careful.
The static danger is more for latent failure not acute failure, static electricity is great at lowering the component lifetime, it is almost completely fine in the short term...
Static can cause damage that won't kill it right away, but introduce weird malfunctions or cause it to die early. It also doesn't take much of an increase in voltage to cause damage, so I'd just build on a table, box, or hard floor to be safe
Even if carpet itself might not cause static directly between it and the components, it can cause you to gain a charge and shock something. Yes, components nowadays are built with ESD in mind, but that doesn't make them immune
i have built over 30 computers and have handled well over 100 kits of ram without once ever damaging anything. the only component ive ever damaged was ripping the die from the package on an old LGA QX9650 attempting to delid. they used some industrial strength solder at that time.
I did a study once to see if we could kill a EPROM chip by intentionally discharging a static charge through a chip. Took 3-4 tries before damage was done.
living in an extremely humid place this kind of damage is incredibly rare we dont even get much lightning.
I built my two PCs on a carpet, both worked totally fine
It super hard to actually kill compenents like that but you can just get super unlucky as well
Touch a power supply that is plugged in
-Mryeester famous last words
You have to slide dielectric material on carpet to built static. Just sitting on it wont generate any static.
I built a computer just behind the TV lol...