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there is a theory that why tsaria wants all genosis cause she was in love with 3rd decender and wanted to collect all the remains of him....as they sezied the 3rd decender who used to be friendly with tsaria as now died due to the archon war
I am pretty sure the second descender wasn't the shades if you actually ready one of the sumeru artifact set
oh actually f off. please, PLEASE don't give this type of person your money, jesus christ
why not get an actual job, weeb, instead of stealing?
in inazuma we ask miko for questions after the inazuma archon quest, not ei.
looks like wei forget about it.
So with this theory, could we assume that the tsaritsa's goal is to collect all of the remnants to revive/rebirth the 3rd descender? And that all the archons have been conspiring with the tsaritsa all along?, to return the authority back to the dragons and challenge celestia?
Ooooh. That's sounds super juicy. Could lead to a battle even greater than that archon war.
The question is why H.P aren't doing anything knowing the gnosis are being collected for that very purpose.
@@resplandent maybe they are trying? correct me if i’m reaching but the “sustainer” that h.p has cursed is the one that trapped traveler in teyvat and we know it controls fate. this being said the traveler has been the only one actively trying to stop the tsaritsa and rival the fatui, but every time traveler fails to stop the gnosis from being taken from an archon? so maybe h.p is trying but the archons are in on it so it keeps failing? we also know and kinda speculate that h.p is a bit weakened or “dormant” as nahida implied it would make sense that it needs to rely on a fourth descender? i could be very wrong and misunderstanding the info given but this is also just a theory
@@u2mass755 would love to see a 1v1 battle between Pierro and the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles
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- if the sustainer of H.P was "Paimon" then simply he can't act because he is weak
- if the sustainer of H.P wasn't "Paimon" this will explain why he/she "plays the blind"
-"The Primordial" had 4 shining shades [𝐬𝐩𝐚𝐜𝐞(sustainer of H.P. suspected to be Paimon) - 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞 (Istaroth) - 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 (could be Alice) - 𝐝𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐡 (Tsaritsa)]
-"The Primordial" fought a fierce war against "The 2nd who came" (the story says that the Primordial won)...but if it's not true? when u look at it
- Istaroth one of the Primordial shining shades wrote a book that made Celesita very furious and helped EI to plant the Sakura tree against H.P, his entire existence has been erased since he was the 1st Archon of Mondstadt yet no one remembers him not even Venti.
Conclusion: some of the shining shades of the Premordia are acting against Celestia, will they act against themselves? since they are part of "The primordial soul". absolutely no
-so what if...it was "The 2nd who came" who won the war and not the Primordial ?!
-what if the Archons discovered (by Tsaritsa for example) that they are serving the 2nd Throne, not the 1st one ?!
Bro Wei’s theories are so good it’s gotten to the point where I feel like I’m spoiling myself 😂
Hoyoverse be like: note that down, note that down
Plot twist Mihoyo listens to Wei on where to take the story next
So the Snezhaya archon wants to resurrect Nibelung and fight together in a 2nd war against the heavenly principles????Interesting...
@@SagaTheFunniest What if that’s lowkey true tho cuz the CEO’s name is Da Wei, and he knows Da Wei (get it cuz Da Way 🤭) also (Let Me Cook 🗣️👨🍳 🔥🔥)
i no longer consider them theories, i just take them as a lore summary in meme language
Wei is the only one who is cooking, when it gets to lore.
Then there’s Ashikai who I consider the lore archon herself
what about ashikai? a lot of what she theorised in her videos ended up pretty much canon as revealed in 4.2
Wei : starts cooking.
Gordon Ramsey : Oh dear, O dear! Gorgeous!
There are more people who cook as good as wei but theyre just not on yt
Ashikai, Catwithbluehat, Aster etc. All crying in a corner
If the Gnoses are the remains of Nibelung, then the Natlan archon quest being called Ode to Resurrection and the nation being filled with dragons may have already hinted at the story being about the fallout that arose due to his death. And apparently the Pyro archon has a secret to tell the Traveller according to the Travail animation, which is starting to sound suspiciously related to the dragon Nibelung and the Heavenly Principles purpose.
Can I ask where the name “Nibelung” is revealed? I see it many times here and there. Seems like I missed something
@@Soham-s_vlogs It's exactly shown in the video when Apep was talking to traveller and nahida.
@@Soham-s_vlogs I think it's in nahida's story quest act 2
Yeah, it's shown in smaller letters above "The Dragon King" like how in HSR, Stellaron is said to be 'the cancer of worlds' in smaller letters above the name 'Stellaron'....
@@Soham-s_vlogs P.S Specifically, at around 6:40 in this video is the clip of Apep talking about the Dragon King
Your theory has kept me awake for the past 5 days
Defeating the heavenly principles is stated to be impossible by both gods and dragons. That's because you can't really do anything against beings who control the stars -> fate. In order to do that, you either need a "power from beyond this world" or the power of the abyss (which is more powerful by virtue of being technically more ancient). That is a known fact by the Tsaritsa and that's why, in addition to trying to gather the gnosis, her country finances an adventurer's guild all across Teyvat in hope that one lucky adventurer could find any lost relic that can access one of those two powers. Or as the guild puts it: "Ad astra abyssosque" To the stars and the abyss.
The only people who succeeded in the past, in Khaenri'ah, used the abyss to punch a hole in the sky, mortally injuring Istaroth (her reincarnation is travelling alongside us). The wishing system and the constellations is us literally gathering the still falling motes of divine power -> the arrogation of mankind
How CONVENIENT that there happens to be someone who comes from beyond this world and thus should/could reasonably be assumed to have power beyond this world rapidly rising through the ranks of the adventuring guild and making a name for themselves
@@lucykitsune4619 Isn't that why Sandrone cuts off Jenck's tongue just to apologize to us?
Paimon is Istaroth? Paimon will defeat the heavenly principles and defeat the unknown godess.
Istaroth the God of Moments is Paimon? Hmmm isn't she already forgotten and no one is worshipping her anymore? Makes sense if she got reduced to Paimon
@@lucykitsune4619 isnt it convenient that heavenly principles left us alive in the prologue if we were enemies? or a threat to them?.
Shades themselves don't shine; rather, they can reflect or interact with light. The shine we perceive is often the result of light reflecting off or passing through the material of the shade. Different materials and finishes can affect how much light is reflected, giving varying degrees of shine or sheen.
And the closer the material basis is to the light source, the wider the shade produced spreads.
@@JikuAraiguma bro i think our point is useless for this theory and the lore 🥲
A shade of someone or something can also mean a somewhat similar copy. The same way your shadow is a shade of you. A shining shade could mean a celestial (shining) near-copy (shade) of the creator.
Like the moon, then 🤔
@@TerrenceMcGinnis That's my thought, but shade doesn't have to be similar, it's just a consequence of something. Like circle and square can be shades of cylinder, depending on the angle of light, showing different characteristics of the same object. I think it's closer
So that's why the name of the archon quest in Natlan is called, "Incandescent Ode of Resurerection". Since all that's left for the Fatui to collect is the pyro gnosis in order to revive the 3rd Descender.
Uh oh😊
Edit: that smile emoji was accidental I didn't mean that
bro couldve just edited out the emoji instead I'm ctfu😭@@mrburpmud
uh oh indeed😊@mrburpmud
@@killthistwit7556it's funnier okay 😊
This is a very interesting theory, especially since it supports the Tsaritsa's desire to challenge Celestia by gathering all of the gnosis. If she gathered them all, she may resurrect Nibelung since dragons have the ability to be reborn. A reborn Nibelung may just be what can bring down Celestia.
But Nibelung and the dragons already were there on the planet before Phanes arrival lol And Phanes beated them before create Teyvat and humans.
@@mabilleaudrey2154
Sure, but Phanes is dead now, and I don't think anyone is planning on reviving him.
Granted, Nibelung may have to go up against the second descender, if they're still around, but I'm sure Tsaritsa has already planned for that.
Phanes is Celestia lol and he's supposed to have won against the second who came after he created Teyvat and humans from Enkanomiya... And that's supposed to be him who created the gnoses as a price for the Seven Gods who survived the Archon war.
But still, if the dragon sovereigns and their king already were there before Phanes arrival, it's obvious that Nibel can't be the third descender :v
And during the cinematic of the Fatui's introduction Pierro said that they are collecting gnoses to gave the worlds to the older Gods so its sure at 100% now that they don't care about the third descender but the dragons because they were the first Gods of the planet.@@woodenmetal2977
@@woodenmetal2977 No one even knows phanes is dead. That's misinformation.
The thing is, Celestia can´t be defeated even if Nibelung is reborn, they would need help from the Abyss or from someone else outside Teyvat´s world.
Imagine explaining this to a peasant in the 1800s with no context
Now I'm 100% convinced your favorite hobby is to time travel and infodump about Wei's theories
The 4 wills
Creation : Primordial One
Sustain: Sustainer of Heavenly Principles/ 4 Shades
Destruction: Nibelung seeking Vengeance
Protection: Traveler, Paimon said she is the god of protection and she is our guide, she is guiding us towards the path of protection at the end of story
Kinda also aligns with the symbols of the artifacts
Flower of life
Plume of death
Goblet of eonothem
Sustenance can be argued to be the sands of eon as time can be reversed, paused and altered so something can live longer and again. But with the circlet you could say it's sustenance through management, which would be done with power or control
so the fatui harbingers are collecting the gnosis to resurrect him🤔
paimon's a god now? What did i miss?
Wasn’t aloy the 5th descender? How does that fit in?
Traditions are important. I was waiting for the Stranger Things music in the last 30 seconds and didn't get it. Basically not having the music ruined the whole video 😢
If we combine this with Ashikai's recent theory, I'd like to push it further with this hypothesis. The Primordial One and his Four Shades have defeated Nibelung, who's been mutated by "The Power of Darkness", something I can only assume to be The Abyss. He became incomprehensible and alien to his own realm, thus named "The One Who Came After". After "The War of Vengeance", Phanes has weakened, but found use in Nibelung's remains, or should I say his "constellation"? Just like Ashikai said, the constellation of each Sovereign has a King's Star and the Prince Stars. While the King Star is their essence and power, the Prince Stars make up their physical being. As such, wouldn't it be very fitting to say that Prince Stars are their "remains"? Phanes used the very stars of Nibelung's constellation to forge The Seven Gnoses. A little speculation on my side, but if we also include dawit's theory, it very much confirms that a certain shackled crystal, emanating a "sinister aura" is indeed Nibelung, or rather, his King Star, his Dragon Pearl. I can only assume that even in a weakened state, Phanes reversed the corruption of Nibelung to use his celestial body (get it? celestial like a star) to forge the Gnoses. His King Star, though, was likely nigh impossible to clean of the abyssal power, so he just imprisoned him. That King Star, is what we know as "The Sinner", branded as such for bringing The Abyss into Teyvat. At the current time, Nibelung is either The King of The Abyss, or The Abyss itself.
The comment section is cooking with Wei I see 💀
God this is such a good theory
You should collab with Wei, your theories are very interesting and say... almost accurate ( though Hornyverse might change it)
omg
And the possible reason for him to have 8 constellations instead of 6 could be due to his breaking out and his forceful break-in back into teyvat, as both a remnant of himself once he left and the new knowledge and wisdom he has now acquired would be breaches through the world's samsara
My problem with considering the 4 shades as one group being the 2nd descender is that the second who came is also called "the **one** who came after" so unless future info clarifies that a single descender can also be more than one person, I can't really buy this theory bc if it were the case I don't think hoyo would've split the traveler twins into one is a descender and one isn't (though I do agree that the shades were probably trapped into being shades by the primordial one!)
Yep I agree with this, instead I think the third descender is the traveler from afar who got married to the ancestor seelie.
i agree!! was thinking about this
Maybe they were a single entity, but to control them like the video implied Phanes also spilt them into 4 beings which could make sense because all 4 share the same goal of sustenance.
My theory:
The sustained isn't a shade. BUT she is the second who came, the second descender, bringing a war with the primordial like we all know by the book sun and moon.
Remember these evidences:
1- after the war, primordial one wasn't the same, and the book make us to think maybe the primordial didn't won the battle.
2- we now know that in fact the primordial one became very weakened, so that fits.
3- the second who came joined forces with the primordial to create the gnosis. They aren't enemies anymore.
So... the sustainer is just the second in command, while the Primordial is away, sleeping. Maybe both too weak after khaenriah battle.
True. I think the dragon king theory is likely (and that's why Fatui wants the gnosis. To bring him back to life.)
But I think the shades are not classified as descenders, and the 2nd descender is someone else.
this should also coincide with the Natlan Archon quest (Natlan being a land of dragons) because the pyro gnosis is probably the last one the Fatui need assuming they are still possession of their own cryo gnosis
WAIT DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE CRYO ARCHON IS TRYING TO BRING BACK THE 3RD DESCENDER WITH THE GNOSIS’ ??????
bro's a masterchef atp with all his cooking
Fontaine's Dainsleif quest is about to go crazy, if i remember correctly before the Carribert quest ended he said that he have to check some stuff to confirm his speculations on who the Sinner is. If the sinner end up being Nebilung that will be SO hard
Perhaps the gem we came across is just housing Nibelung's consciousness. Once the gnoses come together, it will create a body strong enough to house him. o_o
That’s literally what I was just thinking. Dude this quest boutta explode people’s brains
In relation to “Protecting the World,” does anyone else remember how everyone was talking about Aether being the more defensive one out of the two and Lumine being more on the offence?
Side note: Aether’s more defensive nature is also shown whenever an ally gets hit in co-op, eg: “Let me at em!” and “Look out!” They sound so aggressive XD
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Yeah lumines attack motions are more refined, confident and elegant. Aether moves like a brick for some reason
If this is the case, this means that Tsaritsa is trying to resurrect Nibelung. Unfortunately, even if something like this happens, it will only be part of some Archon Quests. After that everything will return to normal. If only Genshin's world also faced destruction like Souls game do, it would have been visually stunning.
I don't know what this "destruction" to talked about, but environment/map do change permanently after you do the quest related to the said environment/map. Just like the closed winter top mountain in Dragonspine, the closed underground mine of Casm, the thunderous island in Inazuma, the burning reverse pyramid in Sumeru, etc.
@@nurusds3 But changing entire landscapes to completely ravaged areas is not doable or atleast not permanently doable. Either its limitied within the quest OR the area doesn't have any chests to begin with / they spawn after the destruction.
The "sustainer" can be related to eternity and thus to timepieces
The "protectors" can be related to headgear as it protects us
The "destroyers" can relate to the feathers
The "creators" can relate to flowers
So I have a theory that we'll have or we may already have a 5th descender that has control over a lot of things like goblets give def, att, HP, em, physical dmg and elemental dmg
im 100% pulling for someone who will garantee crit pieces.
It is often considered that the 5 artifact types correspond to Phanes and his Four Shining Shades.
But it would be interesting if they correspond to 5 descenders instead. It leaves us with the question of who is 5th descender, and why have Fatui not counted him or her. Is it, perhaps, the Sibling?
Sustainer = shade of space, the goblet (in the original Chinese, it's not "Goblet of Eonothem" it's "Goblet of Space")
Destroyer = shade of death, the feather
Creator = shade of life, the flower
Protector = shade of time, the hourglass
With the Primordial One being the 5th artifact, the crown of reason
The editing has gone to another level bro this is INSANE
Wei is the only one allowed to cook. All of this actually made sense Genshin lore wise
ashikai, aster, etc. are crying in the corner.
4:09 she might be the god of space, sure, however i must say in honkai impact that is Herrscher of the Void, or Kiana Kaslana (or sirin but that’s for another time.) in hi3 she is a bio type physical character she was the 2nd herrscher (which could connect to second decender 🧐) but as most i think know it has been confirmed by hoyo that genshin is a part of honkai verse so remembering this we now look at honkai’s event “After The Blood Moon Fades” we saw water djinn in a side mission blocking the path to the outside world and in this mission she said we will see her again in every bubble universe
“what are bubble universes?” in honkai there’s the sea of quanta which you can equate to genshin’s abyss, in the sea of quanta there are bubble universes which are all a string of universes which you can travel through in the sea, (however the sea is dangerous and taxing to traverse..not the point)
how does this relate to genshin? in genshin we see HoV with a slightly different outfit “but you were talking about water djinn!!” water djinn is a skin of HoV and in the event bronie said to sirin “she’s quite similar to you” multiple times , and herrscher of the void /IS/ sirin so yet again just another version of HoV meaning genshin’s unknown god is very likely to be HoV, even if you look at the 1st beta when talking about the sibiling and unknown god it said the sibiling was “impailed” while showing many circles on screen , which represents HoV’s normal and ult atk
if you want to know how genshin is part of honkai-verse simply look at character such as raiden and yae, also irminsul? that’s the imaginary tree from honkai which connects worlds,even in (i believe it was manga of) hi3 you can see otto looking at divalin
When we found out that the gnosis are remnants of the 3rd descender that's what came to my mind too.
That the tsaritza's plan could be to resurrect the 3rd descender to their full power or something to have an even remote chance to challenge celestia being as everyone and everything else in teycat at their disposal are not descender material.
i cant with this dude anymore. he is cooking like a god when talking about lore, but this dude puts the most random illustrations on his video, i cant stop laughting 😭
Nibelung, naturally as the Dragon King, has the power of the Seven Primordial Dragons, from whom the seven elements come from. He became the third descender after leaving Teyvat and returning with the power of darkness, making him the Third Descender.
but Nahida said that the Traveler's sibling can't be a descender because it seems that they are from Tayvat. Isn't Nibelung also considered from Tayvat? If yes, how can he be a descender if the Traveler's sibling is not?
@@luciel98 Maybe just like how the sibling became of teyvat, Nibelung became not of teyvat
@@unauthenthic1585 Yup. Somehow the sibling stopped becoming a descender and became a being of Teyvat. Perhaps they were the Third Descender all those years ago? And when their elemental powers were taken to become the Gnosis, they became someone of Teyvat?
@@luciel98 maybe the sibling stopped being a compatible descender the moment he/she wasn't able to change the fate of the teyvat(failed to protect) and is now just waiting for us to finish what he/she failed to do so.
@@kadyo90NOW THAT'S INTERESTING
bro has cooked sooo hard that even gordan cant do a tiktok roast of him
You explained it in such an interesting way so my attention didn’t wander and in such a way that was easy for me to grasp too. Thank you so much
According to the judgment of the Oratrice Mecanique D'analyse Cardinale, I've already considered this video an absolute W.
Wei, have you seen that Dainsleif's constelation name, according to the wiki, is "snake's ring", like Nibelung ring? Any theories on this? Also, love your videos, thanks for making them!
Don't forget the Pari who said he was carrying a ring with him!
@@SephTheHuntress Yes! This is true, almost forgot that, thanks!!!!
i think he already made a theory on that a while ago ?
@@TheDark78MCI dont think/remember so. But if he did, can you say the name of the video?
@@PersonWhoseNicknamedLit's not that long, i remember too that wei already stated about the ring from dainsleif. Just check it by yourself
There is an NPC from an event called Tsumi from Enkanomiya, one of her lines is "The Seven Sovereigns of the Light Realm are the seven foremost elemental dragons at the pinnacle of the raw and primitive elemental forces."
It is even possible that the eighth element is light.
Light and darkness are universal phenomenon. Light breaks off into 7 elements and these elements then collide and merge in darkness
Pretty possible, everyone moves past the fact that Lumine had element of light when fighting her brother in the world quest
@@OskaPa and the existence of light sigils too !!
This is a great theory video, but there's one thing I would like to talk about. The Shining Shades didn't come into Teyvat from another world, Phanes created them INSIDE of Teyvat after he already created it. So the Shining Shades are natives to this world. Most likely, they don't have element compatibility either, since they are only parts, or different shades, of the light that is Phanes.
Another interesting thing to note is the story how the usurper and the one who came after using the third descender's corpse to create the Gnoses actually falls in line with Greek mythology. And it is shown that things regarding Phanes and the things around it, including the original human civilization, are all based on Greek mythology. What this story correlates to in greek mythology is the story of Cronus and Uranus. In the story, Cronus kills his father, Uranus, and castrates him, throwing his testicles into the ocean, to assume command of the cosmos. From Uranus' blood comes the Giants, the ash tree nymphs, and Erinnyes(this will become relevant to my theory later), or better known as the Furies. This relates to the Genshin story because they both use someone's corpse to take, or regain control over the world. So this most likely means that the origin story of the Gnoses is inspired from that.
Now, after we make this correlation, another very interesting development is made. As I said, when Cronus kills Uranus, multiple beings, including Erinnyes(or the Furies), spring from Uranus' blood. But there is an Erinnyes in game. In Genshin, Erinnyes was a big figure of the lochknights who resisted King Remus, a dude basically trying to rule over all humans, but her forces were defeated in the end, with her being one of the only two survivors. This is a very interesting connection, hinting that Genshin Erinnyes is somehow connected to the Third Descender. Now in Greek mythology, the Furies carried out punishments for mortals who broke the moral and legal codes of the time. Now the Erinnyes in Genshin is mortal as far as we know, but it is never confirmed so perhaps she is some special being like the Furies are in Greek Mythology. Perhaps the Third Descender gave birth to multiple beings in Teyvat after their passing, and Erinnyes was born from the feelings of the Third Descender. Erinnyes' fate was not confirmed, so she could possibly still be alive today. Something else that has gotten my attention is how Uranus' testicles were thrown in the ocean. This relates to Erinnyes, because the lochknights followed the dragon Scylla, who ruled over the dragons born of the seas, and these dragons were known as particularly brutal. Perhaps the Third Descender was thrown into the sea(possibly the Primordial Sea as it is accessible in Fontaine) and gave birth to these brutal dragons. Who knows, Erinnyes could have been a human/dragon person herself like Nuevillette. Perhaps the Third Descender gave birth to other brutal beings like the sea dragons(or maybe they're nice too)
so the attempts to create a new god in the sumeru archon quest is literally by gathering the gnosis all together and to create a new god.
The one and only Wei does it again, connecting all of the pieces and bringing up new answers that always blows my mind ❤
The question now is the Tsaritsa trying to collect the Gnosis to bring back the Third Descender 🤔
I regret to inform you that wei's gonna go missing because of the rate he's posting at, the government is after him 😢
Wait is this true???
So the Fatui are trying to resurrect an entity that wanted to destroy Teyvat? My only large question is **WHY**
I love it when the theories are proven to be correct.
Wei! In one of the quests, we are told that paimon will reveal her goddess form in the future! Les goooo
In wich? ^-^
@@friendlyfellowfromspace7287 the freminet event
@@friendlyfellowfromspace7287 Idk, I had seen it on reddit
I’m scared. What if the tsaritsa will try to use the traveller (4th descender) as a final key to resurrect the 3rd descender since we have the same trates as a descender. You can have all the pieces (the gnoses) but how would you connect them..
you can connect them with the power of 40k primogems
@@arkvsi8142 LMAOOO
Can't wait for the traveller to be the most op character after gaining light elements and clap those Fontaine legends solo....
I could listen to wei's theories for hours and still wont get bored
this guy deserves more subs…!! He's the best lore channel for us
i still don’t know what the fuck is goin on with the intro, but i love his theories
I feel like we might be able connect the narzissencreutz note with the traveller’s profile description, specifically the Chinese ‘the sustainer is fading away, the creator is yet to come’. It’s interesting that two of the descriptors used match those used in the note. Additionally ‘but the world will burn no more’ (the next line) works as a descriptor for the destroyer of heavenly principles.
Assuming that the Sustainer is (part of?) the second descender, the first descender would be the Protector. Interestingly, that fits Phanes and his eggshell around the world fairly well.
Which brings us to the third descender. The destroyer.
Tying back to Neuvilette, the description as ‘controlling resentment and loathing’ for the abyss, and in the Abyss - the Sinner. One who once held absolute authority over the world, and who’s body is made of crystal - just like the cores of the Gnosis. In addition, we do know of a descender who brought destruction in his wake - the person who married one of the moon sisters. The burning described in the profile text could easily be the abyssal infestation the world is toiling under, and we can purify that.
Finally, we would have the fourth descender, the Creator. Us.
One trait I think is important to keep in mind for Descenders is their elemental flexibility. Ergo Light element creatures that can use all it’s shades of colour. If Nibelung is a descender, he would have to be the light dragon.
What I am still looking for a satisfactory answer for is why our twin isn’t considered a descender. Perhaps that puzzle piece will fill in the final uncertainties.
i think the key lies on being able to rival, alter and change the world fate (not "our fate", the fate of teyvat). our sibling probably was initially considered a descender (4th) along with us, but lost the power to rival fate and make the difference and only us remain as the 4th descender.
maybe because she already has done the journey we are on.
let bro keep cooking, let bro make a buffet to us
Finally someone who has similar thoughts in comparing the stuff to the Sea of Quanta and [Imaginary] Tree of Life. I am so happy.
And the Descenders requiring elemental compabitlity can be viewed as manipulation of Honkai since Honkai can be wielded by anyone into any element even though characters in HI3 do often have a set element but that's really just preferences it sounds palpable. In the words of HI3 Gnoses can be Gems/Herrscher Cores. And I think that two elements in GI is Imaginary and Quantam. Not to mention the abilites of the Traveler traversing worlds reminds me of stuff like Durandal who can traverse the Sea of Quanta courtesy power she gained from it and stuff like that. Not to mention, there's 7 Archons, their element (aside of Hydro I guess) the rest make up the first seven Herrschers (let's just include Hydro), but there's a total of 14. I know 7 (Archons) plus 4 (Descenders) equals 11 but reminder; in HI3 the last three Herrschers in the Current Era were Kiana, Mei and Bronya who were already Herrschers so maybe there's some crossover there. Perhaps the Traveler may be like Kiana and transcend a form of Finality in Genshin? But it would mess with the comparing the Unknown God with the Herrscher of the Void and the theory of the twins being Project Ark.
Oh and the Seed of Sumeru in HI3 from the Second Key manga, sure it may be parallel to Sumeru but Su said the key to defeating Honkai might be found in the Seed, perhaps in comparing Irminsul to the Tree a way to eradicate Honkai is to erase it from the Tree? Since erasing the existence of Rukkhadevata purged Sumeru of Eleazar.
In addition to element compatibility perhaps the so called cost that comes with Visions which Lisa talks about may be related to Honkai adaptability; if your adapdibilty isn't high enough it causes irreversibly Honkai cascade (infection) or turning into a Honkai beast perhaps a similar cost comes with the usage of visions.
And yes I wrote a whole paragraph.
you have to be a hoyo insider to know all this
There's nothing thing like watching a wei theory to make you feel infinitely smarter than actually you are
No one believed me at first but I always used to say,
Tsaritsa is Definitely not the Villain.
First four minutes tallied with my conjectures as well but it seems u were able to really crack the identities of the descenders with a lot more extra info from item descriptions. Truly genius
All I'm getting from this is if Nibelung comes back, it's time for everyone to haul their butts and get outta Teyvat lmao
hes literally too good i love wei
And that's why guys you should embrace the Impact
so basically the Tsaritsa (the Cryo Archon) wants to resurrect the Dragon King by collecting all Gnosis in order to defeat the Heavinly Principles and remove her tyranity over Teyvat.
she probably has a personal interest in that.
the same applies to the order of the Abyss who drawns powers from the Abyss (Darkness), remember the quest with Kaeya (Caribert) when we met the founder of the Abbyss order who met the voice in the Darkness, who is the late Dragon King that cured Caribert from the curse of Celestia with 'powers not of this world' (darkness). as Dainsleif said, there's no power IN this world that can cure the curse.
People argue that zhongli is decender because he believe there's only 2 original archon even after Irminsul thingy. I personally believe that it's the same case as dan heng and dan feng in hsr. Sure they're basically the same person but we consider them not the same person. If someone lost all of their memories, they're technically have been "reborn". They're completely become a different person. They have different personality, different mindset, different skills, etc. That's why imo zhongli consider nahida as different person, and he's not a decender.
I don't understand why some people still cling on the "Zhongli descender" theory. It's been debunked the moment he admitted he's started to be affected by erosion, which literally confirms he can't fight anything imposed by Heavenly Principles - or fate itself. Descenders are also those that have "will that rivals the world" based on new info in 4.2. Has Zhongli shown any will that can rival the world? It's more like a crack theory at this point now.
Wei made a theory about that
I thought Primordial One created the shades when he first fought the Sovereigns to steal their authority. I think I read it somewhere. And after that one of the shades created humanity, and later Second who came attacked Celestia.
yea i thought so too
That's from before sun and moon. And before sun and moon is already biased towards the primordial one since its written by humans, it's not exactly objective. It also doesn't mention the concept of descenders at all so who knows.
It was heavily nerfed story since it was from Sun and Moon at Enkonomiya's people.
@@wiseathena97 but wasn't orobashi punished for reading before sun and moon by celestia bc it contained the pre-primordial one "old world" history? They wanted to hide it so idk I feel like primordial one worship bias cancels out, celestia would probably prefer to have any history of their rule being challenged wiped away including the war with the second who came
So if the Tsaritsa can get all 7 gnosis can she revive nibelung and bring back that power of the dark? and the 7 colours of light being compared to elements is interesting cos white light separates into those different colours, maybe its the same with the element of light in game. when traveler gets all 7 elements he can gain light element and if nibelung and aether have a common enemy that will be interesting.
Me in mondstadt doing my silly little commissions and then there are theories
That's why the natlan archon quest is called "The incandescent ode of resurrection"
So the Tsarisa goal is to collect all gnosis to resurrect the third descender and win the war that was lost against the hevenly principles.
Wow! That's one hell of a rematch!!
7:45 So the Cryo Archon is collecting the 7 Gnosis to revive Nebelung 😮
3:21 wayang 😂
Why I feel like the gnosis is relevant to the seven dragon balls and that when you collect them all, you would summon a dragon for a wish.
Basically the Traveller should be able to regain his own power once he obtains the seven elements.
Huh, but that will happen literally as soon as we enter Snezhnaya and touch the final statue. Surely there must be something else we have to do.
I think niblung is also a decender. Mainly because if they couldn’t use the elements will power themselves, they had to diffuse the elemental power through a vessel the most powerful one , powerful enough to not only sustain all the elemental power within the gnosis.
I swesr everytime K finish th archon quest i always wait for wei's video
That now explains why the dragon king was considered a descender when he brought back the forbidden knowledge even though he was from teyvat
watching these videos makes me realize I have NOT done enough of the World Quests yet 😭
7:50 tsaritsa gathering all gnosis now make sense, she wants to resurrect Nibelung and then make her rebellion against celestia as told on teyvat chapter storyline
Small addition, Lumine can be a direct reference to the 'luminary', a Gnostic angel-like being, heavenly dwelling place and/or direct personification of divine powers.
Wait. It explains why The tsaritsa is going for all the gnosis cause She will resurrect the 3rd descender to destroy the heavenly principles. But in the end, it will be killed by the 4th descender, Traveler. And after this we will see the end of why one twin was incapable of being a descender or something like that.
My theory is that the tsaritsa is gathering all gnoses to break or find a way to make nibelung reborn as a way to fight against celestia.
I swear, Wei's edits keep swinging back and forth between comedy, dramatic and horror. Nice work!
im suspecting the 3rd to be our sibling though, connecting it to your last cycle theory. it makes sense why our sibling is not a descender in this timeline but in previous timeline they already became gnosis
and technically, we DID got into "war" with the sustainer
i love how one of the descender’s illustration is zamasu lmao
Ive thought that the gnosis were made from nibelungs body since i found out about the 3rd, i mean it only makes sense. It coincides perfectly with ashikais theyory of the dragon pearls being visions.
Wei is the only person that could tell me the earth is flat and I'd believe them
Shining shade be like: “its paradoxical and yet it works”
Now, with this hypothesis, and the knowledge that we know that Natlan is Nation of Dragons, and It's story chapter termed as 'incandescent Ode of Resurrection' as Incandescent here means 'emitting light' and Ressurrection. yk, so moving on to Natlan If the third descender is Nebilung, a dragon and the final gnosis is in Natlan, connecting all dots~~~~~~ NAHHHHH We gonna see some epic shit in Natlan c'mon🔥🔥🔥🔥
if u take a look at the intro where we fought the unknown god, one of the pillars were destroyed. the pillar MAYBE fell in dragonspine releasing paimon.
can i please have that monsieur neuvillette oratrice cordinell ringtone thing, its a gem
I feel that tevyat is just a planet size farm to harvest elemental power to complete the Samusu cycle 8 times "just 1 more cycle left"(almost like some quantum simulation to get certain results)so that the harvester can harvest the " fruit". the 3rd descender somehow break the chain and thus the celestia need a new source to continue the cycle by trapping and using the fourth descender. traveler will be the important piece to decide the fate of Tevyat and the surrounding constellation stars.
4:49
“WELL… PAIMON IS THE GOD OF PROTECTION” !!!!!
🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nice theory! But in greek mythology, "shade" can refer to something similar to "ghost" or "spirit"- not necessarily the absence of light
it also refers to different hues of a color. "shades of gray" etc
Yes, but the context is most likely referring to spirits, not color. @@sambo6256
i think that what you call the "god of space" is more the "god of void" since her appearence resembles to kiana the herrscher of void form for the ones who played honkai impact 3rd
He knows but space is more fitting, like time and space and nit time and void
**resurrects Nibelung**
Aether: "so, about my sister"
Tsaritsa: "Our journey to victory has begun! Death to Celestia!"
I dont know why but your videos r scary and give me chills 😭 there good but i cant watch these unless someone is literally beside me
that rathalos silhouette caught me off guard lmao, now i want those genshin x monhan collabs!
This makes perfect sense. the Tsaritsa is gathering all of the Gnosis in an effort to ressurect the 3rd descender, so the heavenly principles can be abolished.
so, if i understood, a shade is when a light source comes from behind an obscure object, like, lets suppose you put your hand in front of your face to cover the sun, you can still see the light coming from behind your hand and arount it, making it seem like a dark figure in front of you...
Bro that’s why tsaritsa wants the gnosis,to resurrect the one who wants to fight the heavenly principles
with the narrator's deep voice, i feel like watching BBC History channel
The thing is, the heavenly Principles could be the primodial one, cos depends on wich part of the lore you read, one time it says primodial one and one time it says the heavenly principles created the humans.
AYO. the Primordial One separated Nibelung's remnants into the 7 gnosis, but currently in game the Cryo archon and her subordinates are collecting them all, big things are certainly coming 💀
So if getting the gnosis together it could possibly resurect the dragon(forgot the name) AND the cyro archon is trying to get all the gnosis and bring them together for peace(i think) or she wants to resurect the dragon and cause destruction to teyvat(i think) the end
if thats correct then tsaritsa's goal of collecting all the 7 gnosis must be to reborn the once dragon king,she wants the 3rd descender to be reborn to overthrow the heavenly principles,maybe with help of the abyss since pierro is from khaenriah he could make that work somehow
>Watch genshin theory video
>Suddenly, Zamasu is the Third Descender
we know that tsaritsa has 6 gnosis already and only need to get the pyro gnosis to complete her 'collection'. and natlan has the word 'incandescent ode of resurrection'. so probably they want to resurrect the 3rd descender to defeat the heavenly principles?
Perhaps during Natlan we will see Murata say something such as "I cannot just hand over the gnosis! I stand by the Heavenly Principles and won't let you revive the Dragon King."
Ok. Wei's got me thinking The Tsaritsa wants to ressurect Nibelung.
The descenders being outside of this world, and their ability being referred to "Authority" gives me heavy Honkai Herrcsher vibes.
I do not believe Genshin will just go full on Honkai Impact and start actively connecting it to the Honkai and the Imaginary Tree, but I feel there definitely may be parallels to be made.
Reminds me of the situation with Stellaron where its corruption leads to one of the characters in Star Rail to literally become essentially a Herrscher, except not really cause it's still not Honkai energy, but she definitely looked and acted like one.
And who knows? Maybe after the story is concluded and they move on to Genshin Impact part 2, they will even start actually namedropping the Imaginary Tree and talk about the multiverse. You know Hoyo likes to get into that kinda complex storytelling xd
Regardless tho, I am really only just excited to see more of the "Sustainer of Heavenly Principles" just because she looks a lot like Kiana, Mihoyo's best girl (after Elysia ofc :P)